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| ogra | froop | 15:00 |
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| rsalveti | mooo | 15:00 |
| NCommander | #startmeeting | 15:00 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 10:00. The chair is NCommander. | 15:00 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 15:00 |
| NCommander | [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2011/20110317 | 15:01 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2011/20110317 | 15:01 |
| janimo | hello | 15:02 |
| * davidm waves | 15:03 | |
| NCommander | [topic] Action Items | 15:03 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Action Items | 15:03 |
| NCommander | [topic] NCommander to build mono stack by hand and confirm 2.10 fixes mono regression | 15:03 |
| MootBot | New Topic: NCommander to build mono stack by hand and confirm 2.10 fixes mono regression | 15:03 |
| NCommander | Done both by builoding from source, and reusing Ubuntu binaries. Appears our regression still in 2.10 | 15:04 |
| janimo | why is it called a regression, when did it work? | 15:04 |
| NCommander | janimo: it works on UMP machines. Its a regression in functinality :-P | 15:05 |
| janimo | ah, a bug :) | 15:05 |
| GrueMaster | In truth, it only recently started working on Single Core. | 15:05 |
| janimo | that is progression then | 15:05 |
| GrueMaster | It's only a regression if it worked before. | 15:05 |
| janimo | anyway I was curious, it may have worked while built for armv5 or something | 15:05 |
| NCommander | [topic] ogra to determine if mono still crashes on tegra | 15:05 |
| MootBot | New Topic: ogra to determine if mono still crashes on tegra | 15:05 |
| NCommander | damn it | 15:05 |
| rsalveti | ops | 15:06 |
| janimo | you scared him | 15:06 |
| * NCommander waits to see if ogra returns | 15:06 | |
| NCommander | ogra: 11:06:05 < MootBot> New Topic: ogra to determine if mono still crashes on tegra | 15:06 |
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| ogra_ | oh how i hate freenode | 15:07 |
| ogra_ | mono works fine | 15:07 |
| ogra_ | at least tomboy does, havent had time to test anything else yet | 15:07 |
| NCommander | ogra_: please test with f-spot when you get a chance :-) | 15:07 |
| ogra_ | sure | 15:07 |
| GrueMaster | Tomboy has always worked. Not a valid test. | 15:07 |
| ogra_ | valid for the above task :P | 15:08 |
| ogra_ | mono doesnt crash :P | 15:08 |
| GrueMaster | No it isn't. | 15:08 |
| GrueMaster | Tomboy works on panda too. Not a valid test. | 15:08 |
| ogra_ | the task doesnt talk about which apps :P | 15:08 |
| ogra_ | anyway, move on, i'll test f-spot | 15:09 |
| NCommander | [topic] Standing Items | 15:09 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Standing Items | 15:09 |
| NCommander | [link] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel.html | 15:10 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel.html | 15:10 |
| NCommander | [link] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel-ubuntu-11.04-beta-1.html | 15:10 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel-ubuntu-11.04-beta-1.html | 15:10 |
| rsalveti | beta-1 should look better soon | 15:10 |
| rsalveti | I moved by gles WI to beta 2, as there's nothing I can do about it | 15:10 |
| rsalveti | need to wait linaro work and see if it'll be possible to hit the archive | 15:10 |
| GrueMaster | Beta 2? | 15:11 |
| rsalveti | but probably something to be postponed soon, if no good progress is made | 15:11 |
| ogra_ | yep | 15:11 |
| GrueMaster | ENO Beta 2 on my schedule. | 15:11 |
| ogra_ | sure there is | 15:11 |
| rsalveti | GrueMaster: beta 2 is the new RC | 15:11 |
| ogra_ | there is no milestone in the WI tracker though | 15:12 |
| ogra_ | neither a RC one | 15:12 |
| GrueMaster | Hmmm. Must have changed just after I posted teh schedule on my wall. | 15:12 |
| ogra_ | april 14th | 15:12 |
| GrueMaster | Ah, ok. | 15:13 |
| ogra_ | there is a releaseCandidate milestone on the schedule | 15:13 |
| ogra_ | just no image it seems | 15:13 |
| ogra_ | (april 21st) | 15:13 |
| ogra_ | anyway, nothing to see, if the gles stuff moves we look quite fine | 15:14 |
| ogra_ | NCommander, move ? | 15:14 |
| NCommander | [topic] Unity 2D Status | 15:14 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Unity 2D Status | 15:14 |
| ogra_ | weird :) | 15:14 |
| GrueMaster | I'll add the headless images to the iso tracker during the next milestone testing (next week). | 15:14 |
| ogra_ | uploaded latest trunk this week and we found a very very strange bug | 15:15 |
| rsalveti | number? | 15:15 |
| rsalveti | or not reported yet? | 15:15 |
| ogra_ | not reported, upstream works on it actively | 15:15 |
| rsalveti | oh, ok | 15:15 |
| ogra_ | if you build locally the icon backgrounds are properly colored | 15:15 |
| ogra_ | if you use the package from the archive they are grey | 15:16 |
| rsalveti | hm, weir | 15:16 |
| rsalveti | weird | 15:16 |
| ogra_ | the source is identical, the build deps too | 15:16 |
| ogra_ | there is no real explanation why that happens but it makes the launcher look ugly | 15:16 |
| davidm | Are the icons actually different? | 15:16 |
| ogra_ | beyond that, we have a beta buglist from upstream | 15:16 |
| ogra_ | https://launchpad.net/unity-2d/+milestone/3.8 | 15:17 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 3 in Launchpad itself "Custom information for each translation team" [Low,Fix released] | 15:17 |
| ogra_ | i will add that to the weekly release status | 15:17 |
| ogra_ | silly bot :P | 15:17 |
| ogra_ | davidm, it happens on the same system if you just replace the unity-2d-panel package with a locally built one | 15:17 |
| GrueMaster | Is there a way we could get more frequent build releases? They have a daily ppa, but it is x86 only. | 15:17 |
| ogra_ | so the icons are identical | 15:17 |
| rsalveti | hm, quite many high and critical bugs | 15:17 |
| ogra_ | GrueMaster, the maverick daily ppa is armel too | 15:18 |
| ogra_ | rsalveti, they say all should be fixed by beta | 15:18 |
| rsalveti | cool | 15:19 |
| ogra_ | also note that the majority of these bugs is already fix committed | 15:19 |
| GrueMaster | Beta is next week btw. | 15:19 |
| ogra_ | yes | 15:19 |
| ogra_ | no | 15:19 |
| ogra_ | beta freeze is | 15:19 |
| ogra_ | beta is in two | 15:19 |
| * GrueMaster needs to clean glasses. | 15:20 | |
| ogra_ | i mix them up too all the time ;) | 15:20 |
| ogra_ | we'll get a last upload right before freeze | 15:20 |
| ogra_ | then the list should only have high and critical bugs left | 15:21 |
| ogra_ | which can be fixed between the two betas | 15:21 |
| NCommander | can I move on? | 15:21 |
| ogra_ | yes | 15:21 |
| NCommander | [topic] Kernel Status (cooloney, rsalveti) | 15:21 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Kernel Status (cooloney, rsalveti) | 15:21 |
| rsalveti | currently for omap 4 we're already using 38, but with DVI | 15:22 |
| rsalveti | sebjan send a branch with new DVI patches and HDMI support! | 15:22 |
| rsalveti | \o/ | 15:22 |
| * ogra_ saw some alsa stuff pass by in his bugmail | 15:22 | |
| ogra_ | GrueMaster, ^^^ | 15:22 |
| GrueMaster | Yep. | 15:22 |
| ogra_ | any comment from luke yet ? | 15:22 |
| GrueMaster | None. | 15:22 |
| ogra_ | :( | 15:22 |
| rsalveti | should be similar as we had for maverick, not fully functional yet, lots of conflicts but should be integrated at our tree soon | 15:22 |
| ogra_ | rsalveti, please tell me if i can drop the cmdline option | 15:23 |
| rsalveti | so I believe that with our next upload we can switch back to hdmi as default again | 15:23 |
| ogra_ | 720p looks so odd on my monitor ;P | 15:23 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: sure | 15:23 |
| GrueMaster | that would be nice. | 15:23 |
| GrueMaster | Will hdmi support have a better default resolution? | 15:23 |
| rsalveti | and I'm working at the pvr kernel driver to have sgx again with 38 | 15:23 |
| ogra_ | ++ | 15:24 |
| rsalveti | GrueMaster: will try to use the best supported one from the monitor | 15:24 |
| rsalveti | like maverick | 15:24 |
| GrueMaster | Maverick didn't like my HDMI switch. | 15:24 |
| ogra_ | GrueMaster, for DVI i just picked the lowest that all DVI monitors should support | 15:24 |
| rsalveti | but I believe it should be better this time | 15:24 |
| ogra_ | it could have been 1080p | 15:24 |
| rsalveti | that's the problem I have with EDID support at omap 3 | 15:25 |
| ogra_ | but i wanted to make sure i dont trash it on cheap monitors | 15:25 |
| rsalveti | highest and best resolution is 720p | 15:25 |
| rsalveti | edid detection is only nice to have in case the monitor doesn't support 720p | 15:25 |
| ogra_ | yup | 15:25 |
| GrueMaster | A lot of dvi monitors don't. | 15:26 |
| rsalveti | cool, nice to know, never saw one | 15:26 |
| ogra_ | 1280x720 ? | 15:26 |
| * ogra_ never saw one either | 15:26 | |
| GrueMaster | I had one that was 1024x768. | 15:26 |
| GrueMaster | 15" | 15:26 |
| ogra_ | hmm, i would have expected if there is DVI it would do 720p | 15:26 |
| rsalveti | GrueMaster: do you still have it? | 15:27 |
| GrueMaster | No. | 15:27 |
| GrueMaster | It died a while ago. | 15:27 |
| ogra_ | from using a beagle ubuntu image on it ? | 15:27 |
| ogra_ | *g* | 15:27 |
| GrueMaster | No, it died before arm. | 15:27 |
| ogra_ | ah | 15:27 |
| * ogra_ guesses NCommander can move | 15:28 | |
| rsalveti | yup | 15:28 |
| NCommander | [topic] ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo) | 15:29 |
| MootBot | New Topic: ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo) | 15:29 |
| janimo | some slow progress, some package fixes. some give-backs | 15:29 |
| janimo | nothing unusual | 15:29 |
| * ogra_ poked on telepathy-glib, would be good if someone could identify the root cause | 15:29 | |
| janimo | the kde ones still need GL/GLES fix | 15:29 |
| NCommander | mono remains broken. Going to take some time out and doing normal FTBFS work before returning to that | 15:30 |
| ogra_ | i only added a quick workaround | 15:30 |
| janimo | others still waiting for a faster build machine | 15:30 |
| NCommander | janimo: which GL/GLES fix? | 15:30 |
| ogra_ | scribus-ng looks like a finger training in qreal fixing | 15:30 |
| janimo | NCommander, rewrites is more adequate | 15:30 |
| janimo | Qt uses GLES on ARM | 15:30 |
| rsalveti | NCommander: need to change the packages that uses GL | 15:30 |
| rsalveti | janimo: I plan to work on this | 15:30 |
| janimo | some KDE apps hardcode desktop GL API | 15:31 |
| janimo | which is not present on GLES | 15:31 |
| rsalveti | probably at the weekend | 15:31 |
| rsalveti | let me know if you jump on it | 15:31 |
| janimo | rsalveti, I also had a look. Gto intimidated by the large change that GLES 2.0 vs desktop GL 1.X (which KDE uses) is | 15:31 |
| Riddell | janimo: you're talking about e.g. koffice? | 15:31 |
| ScottK | There's others too. | 15:32 |
| janimo | Riddell, yes, and screeensavers, edu (algebra), etc | 15:32 |
| rsalveti | it shuoldn't be that big | 15:32 |
| janimo | I know some people work on this already | 15:32 |
| ScottK | I think avogadro too. | 15:32 |
| rsalveti | yup | 15:32 |
| ogra_ | yep | 15:32 |
| rsalveti | everything that uses avogadro and glew | 15:32 |
| janimo | a proper fix is either GLES port so ifdef on GL/GLES or using entirely Qt abstractions which make things slower and probably less flexible | 15:32 |
| janimo | same thing needed for mumble and mythtv | 15:32 |
| rsalveti | janimo: just disable GL when available | 15:33 |
| janimo | all upstreams I think are aware of this but it takes time | 15:33 |
| rsalveti | proper fix should come from upstream probably next cycle | 15:33 |
| rsalveti | linaro is working to get gles support at glew | 15:33 |
| janimo | right | 15:33 |
| rsalveti | kwin should support gles for kde 4.7 | 15:33 |
| rsalveti | and a few others | 15:33 |
| janimo | right, but still non-GLEW APIs are used a lot | 15:33 |
| rsalveti | yup | 15:34 |
| Riddell | kunal and I are looking at packaging the kwin with gles for natty | 15:34 |
| janimo | many apps would need to include libmatrix or a similar lib to compensate for lack of matrix operations in GLES aPI | 15:34 |
| janimo | so not just a few ifdefs but real refactoring rewrite which upstream is more in a position to do than us | 15:34 |
| rsalveti | yes | 15:35 |
| rsalveti | Riddell: packaging it separately from kde? | 15:35 |
| Riddell | rsalveti: yes | 15:35 |
| rsalveti | Riddell: I know linaro is planning to have it at least at a ppa | 15:36 |
| rsalveti | would be good to have it on natty | 15:36 |
| rsalveti | but then needs a ffe | 15:36 |
| janimo | are the pandas making it before natty in the build center or do we stick with the handful of FTBFS because of timeouts and their reverse deps | 15:36 |
| rsalveti | davidm: ^? | 15:37 |
| davidm | Sorry | 15:37 |
| GrueMaster | janimo: How many packages in main are affected? | 15:37 |
| * janimo just looked. Only 77 unity-2d bugs targeted at beta. Piece of cake | 15:37 | |
| janimo | GrueMaster, nothing in main afaik, so it is not critical | 15:37 |
| NCommander | (to prevent going over, I think we need to take this offline and move on) | 15:37 |
| ogra_ | GrueMaster, see the ftbfs list ;) | 15:38 |
| janimo | right, move on | 15:38 |
| ogra_ | janimo, rthe good thing is that we dont need to work on them ;) | 15:38 |
| NCommander | [topic] ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) | 15:38 |
| MootBot | New Topic: ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) | 15:38 |
| janimo | ogra_, we may need to if we don't want a crashy U-2d on arm :) | 15:38 |
| ogra_ | netbook looks fine again since today | 15:38 |
| davidm | The panda buildd might make it I just got some PO's for parts but I'm not sure, I still have more to do | 15:38 |
| davidm | weeks yet | 15:38 |
| ogra_ | headless requires more research about the oem-config bug | 15:39 |
| ogra_ | once thats done we need to find out why we edn up without user | 15:39 |
| ogra_ | beyond that all is fine atm | 15:39 |
| ogra_ | NCommander, move unless there are questions | 15:39 |
| GrueMaster | I would switch the priority there. Not having user is worse than not having serial oem-config. | 15:40 |
| ogra_ | well, i want to have both fixed | 15:40 |
| GrueMaster | And the netbook images are looking good so far, except jasper doesn't transfer dvi settings past first boot. | 15:40 |
| ogra_ | both are high prio | 15:40 |
| ogra_ | oh ? | 15:41 |
| ogra_ | it should | 15:41 |
| GrueMaster | I'm looking at a 640x480 GDM login. | 15:41 |
| ogra_ | file a bug, assign me | 15:41 |
| GrueMaster | Yep. | 15:41 |
| ogra_ | but you had 720p on first boot ? | 15:41 |
| GrueMaster | yes | 15:41 |
| ogra_ | k | 15:41 |
| ogra_ | is the plymouth bug fixed already ? | 15:41 |
| GrueMaster | no. | 15:42 |
| * ogra_ hasnt tested netbook for a while | 15:42 | |
| ogra_ | bah | 15:42 |
| GrueMaster | We haven't had netbook for a while to test plymouth. | 15:42 |
| ogra_ | works fine with the text theme | 15:42 |
| ogra_ | so i think its not our fault and not arch specific | 15:42 |
| * NCommander moves on | 15:44 | |
| NCommander | [topic]QA Status (GrueMaster) | 15:44 |
| MootBot | New Topic: QA Status (GrueMaster) | 15:44 |
| ogra_ | seems he drowned in bugs :) | 15:45 |
| GrueMaster | Ooops. Was on the panda. | 15:46 |
| GrueMaster | Working on clearing up old bugs still. | 15:46 |
| GrueMaster | Also working on getting command-not-found fixed for armel (and all of ports). | 15:47 |
| * ogra_ finds it funny that he thinks he remembers it worked in maverick | 15:47 | |
| GrueMaster | Tested a UCM patch for alsa-lib yesterday. Looks ok (doesn't break anything). | 15:47 |
| GrueMaster | ogra_: It has never fully worked on ports. | 15:47 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 15:48 |
| GrueMaster | The way it generates it's data is by crawling the pool of .debs. | 15:48 |
| ogra_ | thats why i find it weird | 15:48 |
| GrueMaster | What we get is arch=all. | 15:48 |
| GrueMaster | So some of it works. | 15:48 |
| ogra_ | i would have sworn iu saw it working but i know its impossible | 15:48 |
| ogra_ | ah | 15:48 |
| ogra_ | then i only tried on arch all packages possibly | 15:49 |
| GrueMaster | Going forward, it looks like bugs that affect our team and that we need to take ownership will temporarily be assigned to canonical-arm. | 15:50 |
| ogra_ | as long as we dont lose the subscription :) | 15:50 |
| GrueMaster | At least until we can figure out a better way to track bugs we need to be responsible for. | 15:50 |
| GrueMaster | That will be added as part of my triage process. :) | 15:51 |
| GrueMaster | Bugs that we are interested in, but owned by other teams (linaro) will still have ubuntu-armel-porters subscribed. | 15:52 |
| ogra_ | yup, thats the point | 15:52 |
| GrueMaster | I hope by next meeting that http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/team-assigned/canonical-arm-assigned-bug-tasks.html will be accurate for us. | 15:53 |
| GrueMaster | Right now it appears blank. | 15:53 |
| ogra_ | weird, i thought it is generated hourly | 15:53 |
| ogra_ | it should already pick up the ones you assigned | 15:54 |
| GrueMaster | It should also have bugs assigned to individuals of that team. | 15:54 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 15:54 |
| GrueMaster | Not sure why it is blank. May be a glitch in the scripts or timing. | 15:54 |
| ogra_ | bdmurray might know | 15:54 |
| GrueMaster | Yep. Meeting with him & the rest of the possie tomorrow. | 15:55 |
| ogra_ | great | 15:55 |
| * GrueMaster is done. | 15:55 | |
| NCommander | [topic] AOB | 15:56 |
| MootBot | New Topic: AOB | 15:56 |
| NCommander | if nothing else | 15:57 |
| NCommander | going once | 15:57 |
| NCommander | twice | 15:57 |
| NCommander | three times | 15:57 |
| NCommander | #endmeeting | 15:58 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 10:58. | 15:58 |
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| charlie-tca | #startmeeting | 19:02 |
| knome | hallo! | 19:02 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 14:02. The chair is charlie-tca. | 19:02 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 19:02 |
| charlie-tca | this is the regularly scheduled Xubuntu Community Meeting | 19:03 |
| mr_pouit | hey | 19:03 |
| charlie-tca | the full agenda is always available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings | 19:03 |
| charlie-tca | [TOPIC] Old Business | 19:04 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Old Business | 19:04 |
| charlie-tca | ask knome to do some drafts with a grey background and a black background | 19:04 |
| charlie-tca | any progress on this one? | 19:04 |
| knome | not really, but i'll work on those today or tomorrow | 19:04 |
| pleia2 | thanks knome :) | 19:04 |
| knome | as i've said a few times lately, i've been dead busy with commercial work | 19:05 |
| charlie-tca | Thank you, knome | 19:05 |
| knome | no problem | 19:05 |
| charlie-tca | [TOPIC] Team updates | 19:05 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Team updates | 19:05 |
| knome | pleia2, can you get back on me tomorrow @#shimmer or so? | 19:05 |
| charlie-tca | [TOPIC] Packaging & Development | 19:05 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Packaging & Development | 19:05 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit: your turn? | 19:05 |
| pleia2 | knome: sure | 19:05 |
| mr_pouit | * As usual, uploaded fixes for xubuntu-default-settings and xubuntu-artwork. | 19:06 |
| mr_pouit | * Uploaded fixes to correctly display translated desktop file names in Thunar and Xfdesktop4. | 19:06 |
| mr_pouit | * Some bugfix in garcon as well. | 19:06 |
| knome | pleia2, thanks. i definitely hope i'll have more time tomorrow for FOSS work | 19:06 |
| mr_pouit | * Included more mimetypes in xfburn.desktop to make lubuntu happy. | 19:06 |
| charlie-tca | Thank you, mr_pouit. Your efforts are really appreciated! | 19:06 |
| mr_pouit | (and I'll need the full-sized wallpapers to include them in the xubuntu-wallpapers package ;p) | 19:06 |
| charlie-tca | We will decide that one today, and get them to you | 19:07 |
| charlie-tca | Anything else for Packaging and Development? | 19:07 |
| mr_pouit | nope, that's all | 19:07 |
| charlie-tca | [TOPIC] Bug Triage & Testing | 19:07 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Bug Triage & Testing | 19:07 |
| charlie-tca | Images were broken all week, the alternate image installs great! | 19:08 |
| charlie-tca | Any questions? | 19:08 |
| knome | any specific reasons for being broken? | 19:08 |
| charlie-tca | um, something with the partitioner | 19:08 |
| knome | rright... so were the ubuntu images broken as well? | 19:09 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 19:09 |
| knome | okay | 19:09 |
| knome | good to know | 19:09 |
| charlie-tca | sorry, all desktop images were broken this week | 19:09 |
| Sysi | ubiquity is buggy | 19:09 |
| charlie-tca | alternate was hit and miss, for the most part | 19:09 |
| charlie-tca | We think it is fixed today, but will know if tomorrows images work | 19:10 |
| charlie-tca | [TOPIC] Website & Marketing | 19:10 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Website & Marketing | 19:10 |
| charlie-tca | any updates? | 19:10 |
| pleia2 | no, still waiting on canonical to set up wordpress | 19:10 |
| charlie-tca | Thank you | 19:10 |
| charlie-tca | [TOPIC] Artwork | 19:11 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Artwork | 19:11 |
| charlie-tca | now this is harder | 19:11 |
| charlie-tca | I made a serious mistake in not verifying the licenses of the wallpaper submissions | 19:11 |
| charlie-tca | At this point, I have two we were supposed to vote on. One is licensed cc-by-sa, unfortunately, it contains images licensed cc-by-nc-sa | 19:12 |
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| charlie-tca | That has to carry forward to the wallpaper | 19:12 |
| charlie-tca | We can not use that wallpaper | 19:12 |
| beardygnome | which one was that charlie-tca? | 19:13 |
| charlie-tca | I am declaring the wallpaper submitted by knome the winner today! | 19:13 |
| charlie-tca | The man with umbrella is unusable because of the license | 19:13 |
| charlie-tca | To refresh memories, the wallpaper are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Artwork/Natty | 19:13 |
| beardygnome | doesn't xubuntu count as nc? | 19:14 |
| charlie-tca | knome did a lot of work on his, but to keep the contest fair, those changes are not reflected on that page. The final wallpaper is at: | 19:14 |
| knome | http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/nattywall/draft3e.png | 19:14 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/nattywall/draft3e.png | 19:14 |
| knome | (which i'm preparing for packaging right now) | 19:14 |
| charlie-tca | Thank you | 19:15 |
| charlie-tca | beardygnome: no, we don't count as non-commercial | 19:15 |
| Sysi | will you note the author of that wallpaper? | 19:16 |
| beardygnome | knome: i like the new version very much! | 19:16 |
| charlie-tca | yes, I will | 19:16 |
| knome | beardygnome, thanks | 19:16 |
| charlie-tca | now, also, on the artwork page is three images that took two votes each. One of those is copyrighted by the author, "all rights reserved". | 19:16 |
| charlie-tca | That is also a complication for us, since it would then have to be reassigned to canonical | 19:17 |
| charlie-tca | therefore, we now have three wallpapers. knome's will be the default | 19:17 |
| charlie-tca | I can only include one more on the cd, so we will vote on earth or dolphins. | 19:17 |
| charlie-tca | I would like to keep this simple, so I am not using VOTE | 19:18 |
| knome | or vote and -1 is for other and +1 fo the other ? | 19:18 |
| charlie-tca | please designate either earth or dolphins to be included as a wallpaper for Xubuntu. | 19:18 |
| charlie-tca | vote now, and we will count the votes manually. | 19:19 |
| knome | EARTH | 19:19 |
| charlie-tca | dolphins | 19:19 |
| * micahg likes both :( | 19:19 | |
| charlie-tca | one vote only | 19:19 |
| mr_pouit | earth | 19:19 |
| beardygnome | dolphins | 19:19 |
| drc | charlie-tca: can new-comers vote or just members? | 19:19 |
| micahg | earth\ | 19:20 |
| charlie-tca | anyone helping with xubuntu can vote. | 19:20 |
| charlie-tca | go ahead, Sysi and drc | 19:20 |
| Sysi | dolphins | 19:20 |
| drc | Dolphins | 19:20 |
| pleia2 | earth | 19:20 |
| micahg | 4/4 | 19:21 |
| charlie-tca | I count that as 4 and 4 | 19:21 |
| charlie-tca | Is there anyone wishing to cast a vote? | 19:21 |
| beardygnome | me too | 19:21 |
| charlie-tca | As Project Lead, I will then break the vote and throw it to earth | 19:21 |
| beardygnome | but micahg likes both, so can that be 5-4 to dolphins :-) | 19:21 |
| micahg | charlie-tca, weird, you voted for dolphins | 19:22 |
| knome | haha | 19:22 |
| knome | ;) | 19:22 |
| charlie-tca | It will be EARTH, I will inform the artist we need the full size image | 19:22 |
| knome | solidarity? | 19:22 |
| knome | hihi | 19:22 |
| knome | charlie-tca, are the licenses okay? :P | 19:22 |
| charlie-tca | such things happen | 19:22 |
| charlie-tca | yes | 19:22 |
| knome | okay, good | 19:22 |
| charlie-tca | It is fully public domain and cc-by-sa | 19:23 |
| charlie-tca | I want to thank every artist for their work, apologize for the license issue | 19:23 |
| charlie-tca | I don't have any other announcements. | 19:24 |
| charlie-tca | I did not get any work done on the Strategy document proposal. | 19:24 |
| charlie-tca | [TOPIC] Any Other Business | 19:24 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Any Other Business | 19:24 |
| micahg | o/ | 19:24 |
| charlie-tca | go ahead, micahg | 19:24 |
| micahg | we should be getting a new gmusicbrowser version (1.1.7) next week, if people can test, that would be great | 19:25 |
| charlie-tca | That is great! | 19:25 |
| beardygnome | micahg: will it be in the maverick ppa? | 19:25 |
| micahg | beardygnome, do we have a maverick PPA? | 19:26 |
| charlie-tca | Also, anyone that can test the installs, we really need to verify things are working, along with the applications | 19:26 |
| pleia2 | speaking of testing, the Global Jam is coming up in a couple weeks https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam - my loco team will be doing some xubuntu testing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jams/Testing | 19:26 |
| knome | ubiquity slideshow is coming together | 19:26 |
| charlie-tca | beardygnome: as far as I know, yes, it will hit maverick ppa | 19:26 |
| pleia2 | charlie-tca: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing up to date? | 19:26 |
| knome | we had a soft deadline today, but we're postponing that to sunday, so translators could start their work on monday | 19:26 |
| charlie-tca | pleia2: I forgot | 19:26 |
| beardygnome | i had a comment about the natty live iso | 19:27 |
| charlie-tca | yes, beardygnome ? | 19:27 |
| beardygnome | the menu screen where you choose to inall or run as live uses the old xubuntu logo and font | 19:27 |
| charlie-tca | it does? | 19:28 |
| beardygnome | *install* | 19:28 |
| beardygnome | well, it did a week or so ago | 19:28 |
| charlie-tca | well, yeah | 19:28 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know if it still does, but can you file a bug for that if you get to it before me? | 19:29 |
| beardygnome | i've been meaning to mention it on the ml | 19:29 |
| beardygnome | so i'll do that now | 19:29 |
| charlie-tca | the partitioner page changed again, you now have the ability to upgrade instead of doing a new installation | 19:29 |
| mr_pouit | beardygnome: you mean, when you select the language, and whether you want to install or run without installing? | 19:30 |
| beardygnome | yes | 19:30 |
| beardygnome | it's the first thing you see when you boot from the cd | 19:31 |
| mr_pouit | yeah, it's still the old pre-lucid greater | 19:31 |
| mr_pouit | *greeter | 19:31 |
| charlie-tca | Can we fix it ? | 19:32 |
| mr_pouit | there's a new one for the other variant (ubuntu/kubuntu), and I don't know why xubuntu doesn't use it | 19:32 |
| charlie-tca | or do we not have that update yet? | 19:32 |
| mr_pouit | I filed a bug against ubiquity a few weeks ago, got no response | 19:32 |
| charlie-tca | bug number? | 19:32 |
| charlie-tca | I will push the installer team | 19:32 |
| mr_pouit | let me some time to find it :p | 19:33 |
| charlie-tca | okay. anything else we want to discuss? | 19:33 |
| charlie-tca | anyone? | 19:33 |
| charlie-tca | Reminder: UDS-O is coming up | 19:34 |
| charlie-tca | anyone can submit for sponsorship to Budapest! Applications are due in by March 29 | 19:34 |
| mr_pouit | charlie-tca: Bug 720652 | 19:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 720652 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "[Xubuntu] maybe-ubiquity/new greeter support" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/720652 | 19:34 |
| charlie-tca | We will have another meeting next week, March 24, at 19:00 UTC | 19:34 |
| charlie-tca | Thank you, mr_pouit. I will try to get that fixed | 19:35 |
| charlie-tca | Thank you all for participating in Xubuntu! | 19:35 |
| micahg | o/ | 19:35 |
| charlie-tca | go ahead, micahg | 19:35 |
| mr_pouit | I didn't try really hard. I filed the bug not to forget to push people about that, and I forgot =] | 19:36 |
| micahg | oh, nm, was going to mention beta freeze next thursday, but that only applies to main | 19:36 |
| micahg | UIF next thursday does matter though :) | 19:36 |
| mr_pouit | micahg: I think it applies to <anything seeded or on ISOs> ;-) | 19:36 |
| charlie-tca | We do have UserInterfaceFreeze next Thursday, too | 19:37 |
| micahg | mr_pouit, ah, you're correct :), so it | 19:37 |
| micahg | s worth mentioning :) | 19:37 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks for the reminder, micahg | 19:37 |
| charlie-tca | Let's then end this meeting, and get some work done? | 19:37 |
| charlie-tca | #endmeeting | 19:37 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 14:37. | 19:37 |
| knome | thanks everybody | 19:38 |
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