[15:00] <ogra> froop
[15:00] <rsalveti> mooo
[15:00] <NCommander> #startmeeting
[15:00] <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:00. The chair is NCommander.
[15:00] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[15:01] <NCommander> [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2011/20110317
[15:01] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2011/20110317
[15:02] <janimo> hello
[15:03]  * davidm waves
[15:03] <NCommander> [topic] Action Items
[15:03] <MootBot> New Topic:  Action Items
[15:03] <NCommander> [topic] NCommander to build mono stack by hand and confirm 2.10 fixes mono regression
[15:03] <MootBot> New Topic:  NCommander to build mono stack by hand and confirm 2.10 fixes mono regression
[15:04] <NCommander> Done both by builoding from source, and reusing Ubuntu binaries. Appears our regression still in 2.10
[15:04] <janimo> why is it called a regression, when did it work?
[15:05] <NCommander> janimo: it works on UMP machines. Its a regression in functinality :-P
[15:05] <janimo> ah, a bug :)
[15:05] <GrueMaster> In truth, it only recently started working on Single Core.
[15:05] <janimo> that is progression then
[15:05] <GrueMaster> It's only a regression if it worked before.
[15:05] <janimo> anyway I was curious, it may have worked while built for armv5 or something
[15:05] <NCommander> [topic] ogra to determine if mono still crashes on tegra
[15:05] <MootBot> New Topic:  ogra to determine if mono still crashes on tegra
[15:05] <NCommander> damn it
[15:06] <rsalveti> ops
[15:06] <janimo> you scared him
[15:06]  * NCommander waits to see if ogra returns
[15:06] <NCommander> ogra: 11:06:05 < MootBot> New Topic:  ogra to determine if mono still crashes on  tegra
[15:07] <ogra_> oh how i hate freenode
[15:07] <ogra_> mono works fine
[15:07] <ogra_> at least tomboy does, havent had time to test anything else yet
[15:07] <NCommander> ogra_: please test with f-spot when you get a chance :-)
[15:07] <ogra_> sure
[15:07] <GrueMaster> Tomboy has always worked.  Not a valid test.
[15:08] <ogra_> valid for the above task :P
[15:08] <ogra_> mono doesnt crash :P
[15:08] <GrueMaster> No it isn't.
[15:08] <GrueMaster> Tomboy works on panda too.  Not a valid test.
[15:08] <ogra_> the task doesnt talk about which apps :P
[15:09] <ogra_> anyway, move on, i'll test f-spot
[15:09] <NCommander> [topic] Standing Items
[15:09] <MootBot> New Topic:  Standing Items
[15:10] <NCommander> [link] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel.html
[15:10] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel.html
[15:10] <NCommander> [link] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel-ubuntu-11.04-beta-1.html
[15:10] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel-ubuntu-11.04-beta-1.html
[15:10] <rsalveti> beta-1 should look better soon
[15:10] <rsalveti> I moved by gles WI to beta 2, as there's nothing I can do about it
[15:10] <rsalveti> need to wait linaro work and see if it'll be possible to hit the archive
[15:11] <GrueMaster> Beta 2?
[15:11] <rsalveti> but probably something to be postponed soon, if no good progress is made
[15:11] <ogra_> yep
[15:11] <GrueMaster> ENO Beta 2 on my schedule.
[15:11] <ogra_> sure there is
[15:11] <rsalveti> GrueMaster: beta 2 is the new RC
[15:12] <ogra_> there is no milestone in the WI tracker though
[15:12] <ogra_> neither a RC one
[15:12] <GrueMaster> Hmmm.  Must have changed just after I posted teh schedule on my wall.
[15:12] <ogra_> april 14th
[15:13] <GrueMaster> Ah, ok.
[15:13] <ogra_> there is a releaseCandidate milestone on the schedule
[15:13] <ogra_> just no image it seems
[15:13] <ogra_> (april 21st)
[15:14] <ogra_> anyway, nothing to see, if the gles stuff moves we look quite fine
[15:14] <ogra_> NCommander, move ?
[15:14] <NCommander> [topic] Unity 2D Status
[15:14] <MootBot> New Topic:  Unity 2D Status
[15:14] <ogra_> weird :)
[15:14] <GrueMaster> I'll add the headless images to the iso tracker during the next milestone testing (next week).
[15:15] <ogra_> uploaded latest trunk this week and we found a very very strange bug
[15:15] <rsalveti> number?
[15:15] <rsalveti> or not reported yet?
[15:15] <ogra_> not reported, upstream works on it actively
[15:15] <rsalveti> oh, ok
[15:15] <ogra_> if you build locally the icon backgrounds are properly colored
[15:16] <ogra_> if you use the package from the archive they are grey
[15:16] <rsalveti> hm, weir
[15:16] <rsalveti> weird
[15:16] <ogra_> the source is identical, the build deps too
[15:16] <ogra_> there is no real explanation why that happens but it makes the launcher look ugly
[15:16] <davidm> Are the icons actually different?
[15:16] <ogra_> beyond that, we have a beta buglist from upstream
[15:17] <ogra_> https://launchpad.net/unity-2d/+milestone/3.8
[15:17] <ogra_> i will add that to the weekly release status
[15:17] <ogra_> silly bot :P
[15:17] <ogra_> davidm, it happens on the same system if you just replace the unity-2d-panel package with a locally built one
[15:17] <GrueMaster> Is there a way we could get more frequent build releases?  They have a daily ppa, but it is x86 only.
[15:17] <ogra_> so the icons are identical
[15:17] <rsalveti> hm, quite many high and critical bugs
[15:18] <ogra_> GrueMaster, the maverick daily ppa is armel too
[15:18] <ogra_> rsalveti, they say all should be fixed by beta
[15:19] <rsalveti> cool
[15:19] <ogra_> also note that the majority of these bugs is already fix committed
[15:19] <GrueMaster> Beta is next week btw.
[15:19] <ogra_> yes
[15:19] <ogra_> no
[15:19] <ogra_> beta freeze is
[15:19] <ogra_> beta is in two
[15:20]  * GrueMaster needs to clean glasses.
[15:20] <ogra_> i mix them up too all the time ;)
[15:20] <ogra_> we'll get a last upload right before freeze
[15:21] <ogra_> then the list should only have high and critical bugs left
[15:21] <ogra_> which can be fixed between the two betas
[15:21] <NCommander> can I move on?
[15:21] <ogra_> yes
[15:21] <NCommander> [topic] Kernel Status (cooloney, rsalveti)
[15:21] <MootBot> New Topic:  Kernel Status (cooloney, rsalveti)
[15:22] <rsalveti> currently for omap 4 we're already using 38, but with DVI
[15:22] <rsalveti> sebjan send a branch with new DVI patches and HDMI support!
[15:22] <rsalveti> \o/
[15:22]  * ogra_ saw some alsa stuff pass by in his bugmail
[15:22] <ogra_> GrueMaster, ^^^
[15:22] <GrueMaster> Yep.
[15:22] <ogra_> any comment from luke yet ?
[15:22] <GrueMaster> None.
[15:22] <ogra_> :(
[15:22] <rsalveti> should be similar as we had for maverick, not fully functional yet, lots of conflicts but should be integrated at our tree soon
[15:23] <ogra_> rsalveti, please tell me if i can drop the cmdline option
[15:23] <rsalveti> so I believe that with our next upload we can switch back to hdmi as default again
[15:23] <ogra_> 720p looks so odd on my monitor ;P
[15:23] <rsalveti> ogra_: sure
[15:23] <GrueMaster> that would be nice.
[15:23] <GrueMaster> Will hdmi support have a better default resolution?
[15:23] <rsalveti> and I'm working at the pvr kernel driver to have sgx again with 38
[15:24] <ogra_> ++
[15:24] <rsalveti> GrueMaster: will try to use the best supported one from the monitor
[15:24] <rsalveti> like maverick
[15:24] <GrueMaster> Maverick didn't like my HDMI switch.
[15:24] <ogra_> GrueMaster, for DVI i just picked the lowest that all DVI monitors should support
[15:24] <rsalveti> but I believe it should be better this time
[15:24] <ogra_> it could have been 1080p
[15:25] <rsalveti> that's the problem I have with EDID support at omap 3
[15:25] <ogra_> but i wanted to make sure i dont trash it on cheap monitors
[15:25] <rsalveti> highest and best resolution is 720p
[15:25] <rsalveti> edid detection is only nice to have in case the monitor doesn't support 720p
[15:25] <ogra_> yup
[15:26] <GrueMaster> A lot of dvi monitors don't.
[15:26] <rsalveti> cool, nice to know, never saw one
[15:26] <ogra_> 1280x720 ?
[15:26]  * ogra_ never saw one either
[15:26] <GrueMaster> I had one that was 1024x768.
[15:26] <GrueMaster> 15"
[15:26] <ogra_> hmm, i would have expected if there is DVI it would do 720p
[15:27] <rsalveti> GrueMaster: do you still have it?
[15:27] <GrueMaster> No.
[15:27] <GrueMaster> It died a while ago.
[15:27] <ogra_> from using a beagle ubuntu image on it ?
[15:27] <ogra_> *g*
[15:27] <GrueMaster> No, it died before arm.
[15:27] <ogra_> ah
[15:28]  * ogra_ guesses NCommander can move
[15:28] <rsalveti> yup
[15:29] <NCommander> [topic] ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo)
[15:29] <MootBot> New Topic:  ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo)
[15:29] <janimo> some slow progress, some package fixes. some give-backs
[15:29] <janimo> nothing unusual
[15:29]  * ogra_ poked on telepathy-glib, would be good if someone could identify the root cause
[15:29] <janimo> the kde ones still need GL/GLES fix
[15:30] <NCommander> mono remains broken. Going to take some time out and doing normal FTBFS work before returning to that
[15:30] <ogra_> i only added a quick workaround
[15:30] <janimo> others still waiting for a faster build machine
[15:30] <NCommander> janimo: which GL/GLES fix?
[15:30] <ogra_> scribus-ng looks like a finger training in qreal fixing
[15:30] <janimo> NCommander, rewrites is more adequate
[15:30] <janimo> Qt uses GLES on ARM
[15:30] <rsalveti> NCommander: need to change the packages that uses GL
[15:30] <rsalveti> janimo: I plan to work on this
[15:31] <janimo> some KDE apps hardcode desktop GL API
[15:31] <janimo> which is not present on GLES
[15:31] <rsalveti> probably at the weekend
[15:31] <rsalveti> let me know if you jump on it
[15:31] <janimo> rsalveti, I also had a look. Gto intimidated by the large change that GLES 2.0 vs desktop GL 1.X (which KDE uses) is
[15:31] <Riddell> janimo: you're talking about e.g. koffice?
[15:32] <ScottK> There's others too.
[15:32] <janimo> Riddell, yes, and screeensavers, edu (algebra), etc
[15:32] <rsalveti> it shuoldn't be that big
[15:32] <janimo> I know some people work on this already
[15:32] <ScottK> I think avogadro too.
[15:32] <rsalveti> yup
[15:32] <ogra_> yep
[15:32] <rsalveti> everything that uses avogadro and glew
[15:32] <janimo> a proper fix is either GLES port so ifdef on GL/GLES or using entirely Qt abstractions which make things slower and probably less flexible
[15:32] <janimo> same thing needed for mumble and mythtv
[15:33] <rsalveti> janimo: just disable GL when available
[15:33] <janimo> all upstreams I think are aware of this but it takes time
[15:33] <rsalveti> proper fix should come from upstream probably next cycle
[15:33] <rsalveti> linaro is working to get gles support at glew
[15:33] <janimo> right
[15:33] <rsalveti> kwin should support gles for kde 4.7
[15:33] <rsalveti> and a few others
[15:33] <janimo> right, but still non-GLEW APIs are used a lot
[15:34] <rsalveti> yup
[15:34] <Riddell> kunal and I are looking at packaging the kwin with gles for natty
[15:34] <janimo> many apps would need to include libmatrix or a similar lib to compensate for lack of matrix operations in GLES aPI
[15:34] <janimo> so not just a few ifdefs but real refactoring rewrite which upstream is more in a position to do than us
[15:35] <rsalveti> yes
[15:35] <rsalveti> Riddell: packaging it separately from kde?
[15:35] <Riddell> rsalveti: yes
[15:36] <rsalveti> Riddell: I know linaro is planning to have it at least at a ppa
[15:36] <rsalveti> would be good to have it on natty
[15:36] <rsalveti> but then needs a ffe
[15:36] <janimo> are the pandas making it before natty in the build center or do we stick with the handful of FTBFS because of timeouts and their reverse deps
[15:37] <rsalveti> davidm: ^?
[15:37] <davidm> Sorry
[15:37] <GrueMaster> janimo: How many packages in main are affected?
[15:37]  * janimo just looked. Only 77 unity-2d bugs targeted at beta. Piece of cake
[15:37] <janimo> GrueMaster, nothing in main afaik, so it is not critical
[15:37] <NCommander> (to prevent going over, I think we need to take this offline and move on)
[15:38] <ogra_> GrueMaster, see the ftbfs list ;)
[15:38] <janimo> right, move on
[15:38] <ogra_> janimo, rthe good thing is that we dont need to work on them ;)
[15:38] <NCommander> [topic] ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander)
[15:38] <MootBot> New Topic:  ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander)
[15:38] <janimo> ogra_, we may need to if we don't want a crashy U-2d on arm :)
[15:38] <ogra_> netbook looks fine again since today
[15:38] <davidm> The panda buildd might make it I just got some PO's for parts but I'm not sure, I still have more to do
[15:38] <davidm> weeks yet
[15:39] <ogra_> headless requires more research about the oem-config bug
[15:39] <ogra_> once thats done we need to find out why we edn up without user
[15:39] <ogra_> beyond that all is fine atm
[15:39] <ogra_> NCommander, move unless there are questions
[15:40] <GrueMaster> I would switch the priority there.  Not having user is worse than not having serial oem-config.
[15:40] <ogra_> well, i want to have both fixed
[15:40] <GrueMaster> And the netbook images are looking good so far, except jasper doesn't transfer dvi settings past first boot.
[15:40] <ogra_> both are high prio
[15:41] <ogra_> oh ?
[15:41] <ogra_> it should
[15:41] <GrueMaster> I'm looking at a 640x480 GDM login.
[15:41] <ogra_> file a bug, assign me
[15:41] <GrueMaster> Yep.
[15:41] <ogra_> but you had 720p on first boot ?
[15:41] <GrueMaster> yes
[15:41] <ogra_> k
[15:41] <ogra_> is the plymouth bug fixed already ?
[15:42] <GrueMaster> no.
[15:42]  * ogra_ hasnt tested netbook for a while
[15:42] <ogra_> bah
[15:42] <GrueMaster> We haven't had netbook for a while to test plymouth.
[15:42] <ogra_> works fine with the text theme
[15:42] <ogra_> so i think its not our fault and not arch specific
[15:44]  * NCommander moves on
[15:44] <NCommander> [topic]QA Status (GrueMaster)
[15:44] <MootBot> New Topic: QA Status (GrueMaster)
[15:45] <ogra_> seems he drowned in bugs :)
[15:46] <GrueMaster> Ooops.  Was on the panda.
[15:46] <GrueMaster> Working on clearing up old bugs still.
[15:47] <GrueMaster> Also working on getting command-not-found fixed for armel (and all of ports).
[15:47]  * ogra_ finds it funny that he thinks he remembers it worked in maverick
[15:47] <GrueMaster> Tested a UCM patch for alsa-lib yesterday.  Looks ok (doesn't break anything).
[15:47] <GrueMaster> ogra_: It has never fully worked on ports.
[15:48] <ogra_> yeah
[15:48] <GrueMaster> The way it generates it's data is by crawling the pool of .debs.
[15:48] <ogra_> thats why i find it weird
[15:48] <GrueMaster> What we get is arch=all.
[15:48] <GrueMaster> So some of it works.
[15:48] <ogra_> i would have sworn iu saw it working but i know its impossible
[15:48] <ogra_> ah
[15:49] <ogra_> then i only tried on arch all packages possibly
[15:50] <GrueMaster> Going forward, it looks like bugs that affect our team and that we need to take ownership will temporarily be assigned to canonical-arm.
[15:50] <ogra_> as long as we dont lose the subscription :)
[15:50] <GrueMaster> At least until we can figure out a better way to track bugs we need to be responsible for.
[15:51] <GrueMaster> That will be added as part of my triage process.  :)
[15:52] <GrueMaster> Bugs that we are interested in, but owned by other teams (linaro) will still have ubuntu-armel-porters subscribed.
[15:52] <ogra_> yup, thats the point
[15:53] <GrueMaster> I hope by next meeting that http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/team-assigned/canonical-arm-assigned-bug-tasks.html will be accurate for us.
[15:53] <GrueMaster> Right now it appears blank.
[15:53] <ogra_> weird, i thought it is generated hourly
[15:54] <ogra_> it should already pick up the ones you assigned
[15:54] <GrueMaster> It should also have bugs assigned to individuals of that team.
[15:54] <ogra_> yeah
[15:54] <GrueMaster> Not sure why it is blank.  May be a glitch in the scripts or timing.
[15:54] <ogra_> bdmurray might know
[15:55] <GrueMaster> Yep.  Meeting with him & the rest of the possie tomorrow.
[15:55] <ogra_> great
[15:55]  * GrueMaster is done.
[15:56] <NCommander> [topic] AOB
[15:56] <MootBot> New Topic:  AOB
[15:57] <NCommander> if nothing else
[15:57] <NCommander> going once
[15:57] <NCommander> twice
[15:57] <NCommander> three times
[15:58] <NCommander> #endmeeting
[15:58] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 10:58.
[19:02] <charlie-tca> #startmeeting
[19:02] <knome> hallo!
[19:02] <MootBot> Meeting started at 14:02. The chair is charlie-tca.
[19:02] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[19:03] <charlie-tca> this is the regularly scheduled Xubuntu Community Meeting
[19:03] <mr_pouit> hey
[19:03] <charlie-tca> the full agenda is always available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings
[19:04] <charlie-tca> [TOPIC] Old Business
[19:04] <MootBot> New Topic:  Old Business
[19:04] <charlie-tca> ask knome to do some drafts with a grey background and a black background
[19:04] <charlie-tca> any progress on this one?
[19:04] <knome> not really, but i'll work on those today or tomorrow
[19:04] <pleia2> thanks knome :)
[19:05] <knome> as i've said a few times lately, i've been dead busy with commercial work
[19:05] <charlie-tca> Thank you, knome
[19:05] <knome> no problem
[19:05] <charlie-tca> [TOPIC] Team updates
[19:05] <MootBot> New Topic:  Team updates
[19:05] <knome> pleia2, can you get back on me tomorrow @#shimmer or so?
[19:05] <charlie-tca> [TOPIC] Packaging & Development
[19:05] <MootBot> New Topic:  Packaging & Development
[19:05] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: your turn?
[19:05] <pleia2> knome: sure
[19:06] <mr_pouit> * As usual, uploaded fixes for xubuntu-default-settings and xubuntu-artwork.
[19:06] <mr_pouit> * Uploaded fixes to correctly display translated desktop file names in Thunar and Xfdesktop4.
[19:06] <mr_pouit> * Some bugfix in garcon as well.
[19:06] <knome> pleia2, thanks. i definitely hope i'll have more time tomorrow for FOSS work
[19:06] <mr_pouit> * Included more mimetypes in xfburn.desktop to make lubuntu happy.
[19:06] <charlie-tca> Thank you, mr_pouit. Your efforts are really appreciated!
[19:06] <mr_pouit> (and I'll need the full-sized wallpapers to include them in the xubuntu-wallpapers package ;p)
[19:07] <charlie-tca> We will decide that one today, and get them to you
[19:07] <charlie-tca> Anything else for Packaging and Development?
[19:07] <mr_pouit> nope, that's all
[19:07] <charlie-tca> [TOPIC] Bug Triage & Testing
[19:07] <MootBot> New Topic:  Bug Triage & Testing
[19:08] <charlie-tca> Images were broken all week, the alternate image installs great!
[19:08] <charlie-tca> Any questions?
[19:08] <knome> any specific reasons for being broken?
[19:08] <charlie-tca> um, something with the partitioner
[19:09] <knome> rright... so were the ubuntu images broken as well?
[19:09] <charlie-tca> yup
[19:09] <knome> okay
[19:09] <knome> good to know
[19:09] <charlie-tca> sorry, all desktop images were broken this week
[19:09] <Sysi> ubiquity is buggy
[19:09] <charlie-tca> alternate was hit and miss, for the most part
[19:10] <charlie-tca> We think it is fixed today, but will know if tomorrows images work
[19:10] <charlie-tca> [TOPIC] Website & Marketing
[19:10] <MootBot> New Topic:  Website & Marketing
[19:10] <charlie-tca> any updates?
[19:10] <pleia2> no, still waiting on canonical to set up wordpress
[19:10] <charlie-tca> Thank you
[19:11] <charlie-tca> [TOPIC] Artwork
[19:11] <MootBot> New Topic:  Artwork
[19:11] <charlie-tca> now this is harder
[19:11] <charlie-tca> I made a serious mistake in not verifying the licenses of the wallpaper submissions
[19:12] <charlie-tca> At this point, I have two we were supposed to vote on. One is licensed cc-by-sa, unfortunately, it contains images licensed cc-by-nc-sa
[19:12] <charlie-tca> That has to carry forward to the wallpaper
[19:12] <charlie-tca> We can not use that wallpaper
[19:13] <beardygnome> which one was that charlie-tca?
[19:13] <charlie-tca> I am declaring the wallpaper submitted by knome the winner today!
[19:13] <charlie-tca> The man with umbrella is unusable because of the license
[19:13] <charlie-tca> To refresh memories, the wallpaper are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Artwork/Natty
[19:14] <beardygnome> doesn't xubuntu count as nc?
[19:14] <charlie-tca> knome did a lot of work on his, but to keep the contest fair, those changes are not reflected on that page. The final wallpaper is at:
[19:14] <knome> http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/nattywall/draft3e.png
[19:14] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/nattywall/draft3e.png
[19:14] <knome> (which i'm preparing for packaging right now)
[19:15] <charlie-tca> Thank you
[19:15] <charlie-tca> beardygnome: no, we don't count as non-commercial
[19:16] <Sysi> will you note the author of that wallpaper?
[19:16] <beardygnome> knome: i like the new version very much!
[19:16] <charlie-tca> yes, I will
[19:16] <knome> beardygnome, thanks
[19:16] <charlie-tca> now, also, on the artwork page is three images that took two votes each. One of those is copyrighted by the author, "all rights reserved".
[19:17] <charlie-tca> That is also a complication for us, since it would then have to be reassigned to canonical
[19:17] <charlie-tca> therefore, we now have three wallpapers. knome's will be the default
[19:17] <charlie-tca> I can only include one more on the cd, so we will vote on earth or dolphins.
[19:18] <charlie-tca> I would like to keep this simple, so I am not using VOTE
[19:18] <knome> or vote and -1 is for other and +1 fo the other ?
[19:18] <charlie-tca> please designate either earth or dolphins to be included as a wallpaper for Xubuntu.
[19:19] <charlie-tca> vote now, and we will count the votes manually.
[19:19] <knome> EARTH
[19:19] <charlie-tca> dolphins
[19:19]  * micahg likes both :(
[19:19] <charlie-tca> one vote only
[19:19] <mr_pouit> earth
[19:19] <beardygnome> dolphins
[19:19] <drc> charlie-tca: can new-comers vote or just members?
[19:20] <micahg> earth\
[19:20] <charlie-tca> anyone helping with xubuntu can vote.
[19:20] <charlie-tca> go ahead, Sysi and drc
[19:20] <Sysi> dolphins
[19:20] <drc> Dolphins
[19:20] <pleia2> earth
[19:21] <micahg> 4/4
[19:21] <charlie-tca> I count that as 4 and 4
[19:21] <charlie-tca> Is there anyone wishing to cast a vote?
[19:21] <beardygnome> me too
[19:21] <charlie-tca> As Project Lead, I will then break the vote and throw it to earth
[19:21] <beardygnome> but micahg  likes both, so can that be 5-4 to dolphins :-)
[19:22] <micahg> charlie-tca, weird, you voted for dolphins
[19:22] <knome> haha
[19:22] <knome> ;)
[19:22] <charlie-tca> It will be EARTH, I will inform the artist we need the full size image
[19:22] <knome> solidarity?
[19:22] <knome> hihi
[19:22] <knome> charlie-tca, are the licenses okay? :P
[19:22] <charlie-tca> such things happen
[19:22] <charlie-tca> yes
[19:22] <knome> okay, good
[19:23] <charlie-tca> It is fully public domain and cc-by-sa
[19:23] <charlie-tca> I want to thank every artist for their work, apologize for the license issue
[19:24] <charlie-tca> I don't have any other announcements.
[19:24] <charlie-tca> I did not get any work done on the Strategy document proposal.
[19:24] <charlie-tca> [TOPIC] Any Other Business
[19:24] <MootBot> New Topic:  Any Other Business
[19:24] <micahg> o/
[19:24] <charlie-tca> go ahead, micahg
[19:25] <micahg> we should be getting a new gmusicbrowser version (1.1.7) next week, if people can test, that would be great
[19:25] <charlie-tca> That is great!
[19:25] <beardygnome> micahg: will it be in the maverick ppa?
[19:26] <micahg> beardygnome, do we have a maverick PPA?
[19:26] <charlie-tca> Also, anyone that can test the installs, we really need to verify things are working, along with the applications
[19:26] <pleia2> speaking of testing, the Global Jam is coming up in a couple weeks https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam - my loco team will be doing some xubuntu testing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jams/Testing
[19:26] <knome> ubiquity slideshow is coming together
[19:26] <charlie-tca> beardygnome: as far as I know, yes, it will hit maverick ppa
[19:26] <pleia2> charlie-tca: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing up to date?
[19:26] <knome> we had a soft deadline today, but we're postponing that to sunday, so translators could start their work on monday
[19:26] <charlie-tca> pleia2: I forgot
[19:27] <beardygnome> i had a comment about the natty live iso
[19:27] <charlie-tca> yes, beardygnome ?
[19:27] <beardygnome> the menu screen where you choose to inall or run as live uses the old xubuntu logo and font
[19:28] <charlie-tca> it does?
[19:28] <beardygnome> *install*
[19:28] <beardygnome> well, it did a week or so ago
[19:28] <charlie-tca> well, yeah
[19:29] <charlie-tca> I don't know if it still does, but can you file a bug for that if you get to it before me?
[19:29] <beardygnome> i've been meaning to mention it on the ml
[19:29] <beardygnome> so i'll do that now
[19:29] <charlie-tca> the partitioner page changed again, you now have the ability to upgrade instead of doing a new installation
[19:30] <mr_pouit> beardygnome: you mean, when you select the language, and whether you want to install or run without installing?
[19:30] <beardygnome> yes
[19:31] <beardygnome> it's the first thing you see when you boot from the cd
[19:31] <mr_pouit> yeah, it's still the old pre-lucid greater
[19:31] <mr_pouit> *greeter
[19:32] <charlie-tca> Can we fix it ?
[19:32] <mr_pouit> there's a new one for the other variant (ubuntu/kubuntu), and I don't know why xubuntu doesn't use it
[19:32] <charlie-tca> or do we not have that update yet?
[19:32] <mr_pouit> I filed a bug against ubiquity a few weeks ago, got no response
[19:32] <charlie-tca> bug number?
[19:32] <charlie-tca> I will push the installer team
[19:33] <mr_pouit> let me some time to find it :p
[19:33] <charlie-tca> okay. anything else we want to discuss?
[19:33] <charlie-tca> anyone?
[19:34] <charlie-tca> Reminder:  UDS-O is coming up
[19:34] <charlie-tca> anyone can submit for sponsorship to Budapest! Applications are due in by March 29
[19:34] <mr_pouit> charlie-tca: Bug 720652
[19:34] <charlie-tca> We will have another meeting next week, March 24, at 19:00 UTC
[19:35] <charlie-tca> Thank you, mr_pouit. I will try to get that fixed
[19:35] <charlie-tca> Thank you all for participating in Xubuntu!
[19:35] <micahg> o/
[19:35] <charlie-tca> go ahead, micahg
[19:36] <mr_pouit> I didn't try really hard. I filed the bug not to forget to push people about that, and I forgot =]
[19:36] <micahg> oh, nm, was going to mention beta freeze next thursday, but that only applies to main
[19:36] <micahg> UIF next thursday does matter though :)
[19:36] <mr_pouit> micahg: I think it applies to <anything seeded or on ISOs> ;-)
[19:37] <charlie-tca> We do have UserInterfaceFreeze next Thursday, too
[19:37] <micahg> mr_pouit, ah, you're correct :), so it
[19:37] <micahg> s worth mentioning :)
[19:37] <charlie-tca> Thanks for the reminder, micahg
[19:37] <charlie-tca> Let's then end this meeting, and get some work done?
[19:37] <charlie-tca> #endmeeting
[19:37] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 14:37.
[19:38] <knome> thanks everybody
[23:58]  * greg-g waves
[23:59]  * pleia2 waves
[23:59]  * ddecator waves