[00:06] <mycosys> _antant - i remeber hearing about an issue of that ilk using ATI video cards?
[00:06] <mycosys> my experience is myth +ATI = pain
[01:19] <_antant> Got it all sorted now thank god
[01:20] <_antant> Now just can't get the xbmc svn repo installer to install
[01:22] <mycosys> are you using ati, jus curious?
[01:22] <_antant> yup
[01:22] <mycosys> get an nvidia
[01:22] <_antant> disabled the onboard audio in my bios
[01:22] <_antant> lol
[01:23] <_antant> I've literally just got this one
[01:23] <mycosys> just kill it - shove it to a win box
[01:23] <_antant> and it works fine
[01:23] <mycosys> pay $25 for a gt210
[01:23] <_antant> I'm in uk
[01:23] <_antant> it's more than that
[01:23] <mycosys> fine 15 pounds
[01:23] <_antant> lol
[01:23] <_antant> way more than that
[01:23] <mycosys> i am in australia, not US
[01:23] <mycosys> they are cheap as chips
[01:24] <mycosys> nvidia > 8xxxx will give you vdpau, and opengl that works
[01:24] <_antant> this 5450 works fine now
[01:24] <_antant> no problems with audio through hdmi, no problems with mythtv, nothing
[01:24] <mycosys> vdpau is decode acceleration for unix
[01:25] <_antant> well if I do run into any problems then I may well
[01:25] <mycosys> main one will be high cpu usage
[01:25] <_antant> really?
[01:26] <mycosys> uhuh - u are doing all decode on cpu
[01:26] <_antant> I'll get my case vfd working and check it
[01:26] <_antant> which I read may be a bit of a pain too
[01:27] <_antant> minimum (even on ebay) for a gt210 is £32
[01:30] <mycosys> would it happen to be an antec case?
[01:30] <mycosys> seriously???? $50?
[01:30] <mycosys> look internationally
[01:31] <_antant> yup
[01:31] <_antant> fusion v1
[01:32] <mycosys> http://avenard.com/media/Patches_%26_Add-Ons/Entries/2009/10/17_LIRC_and_LCD_to_work_with_Antec_Fusion_Remote_Black_(Karmic).html
[01:32] <Zinn> [avenard.com] LIRC/LCD & Antec Remote Fusion
[01:32] <mycosys> just enable his repos if u want
[01:33] <mycosys> http://avenard.com/media/Ubuntu_Repository/Ubuntu_Repository.html
[01:33] <Zinn> [avenard.com] Ubuntu Media Playing Packages
[01:35] <_antant> nice one
[01:36] <mycosys> http://avenard.com/media/Patches_%26_Add-Ons/Entries/2008/10/9_iMON_0038_LCD_working_with_LCDd.html older instructions of what he did
[01:36] <Zinn> [avenard.com] Working LCD for Antec Fusion Remote Black (iMON 0038)
[01:36] <mycosys> he also has a funky refresh rate patch in those repos http://avenard.com/media/Patches_%26_Add-Ons/Entries/2010/6/7_Matching_refresh_rate_with_input_framerate_to_reduce_judder_%3B_final_part.html and some upmix patching for 5.1 too
[01:36] <Zinn> [avenard.com] Matching refresh rate with input framerate to reduce judder
[01:38] <_antant> any idea how I can minimize xbmc?
[01:38] <mycosys> never really played with it
[01:39] <mycosys> dunno why you would need it on a myth system?
[01:39] <_antant> prefer is as a media centre
[01:40] <mycosys> are you running doze on ur network too?
[01:41] <mycosys> http://members.iinet.net.au/~davco/
[01:41] <Zinn> [members.iinet.net.au] MythTV for Windows
[01:41] <mycosys> prebuilt windows frontends
[01:41] <mycosys> so much easier than having to compile it lol
[01:44] <_antant> Yeah, a couple of my flatmates will be running it on win
[01:46] <_antant> Having problems connecting tho
[01:46] <mycosys> what are they using to connect?
[01:47] <_antant> xbmc with the mythbox addon
[01:48] <mycosys> would say use mythfrontand
[01:49] <mycosys> *mythfrontend
[01:49] <mycosys> have had very few hassles with it on windows (other than getting it to build that 1st time lol)
[01:49] <mycosys> will also be the only way they will get live tv
[01:49] <_antant> I'm getting told that it can't log in to the sql database
[01:50] <mycosys> rings bells again
[01:50] <mycosys> something about mysql being configured to accept connections from the network
[01:51] <_antant> I've got a d/l link for mythtvplayer
[01:51] <_antant> that the one?
[01:52] <mycosys> no
[01:52] <mycosys> http://members.iinet.net.au/~davco/
[01:52] <Zinn> [members.iinet.net.au] MythTV for Windows
[01:52] <mycosys> is actually mythtv built for windows
[01:53] <mycosys> exactly the same as on linux, just built using mingw
[01:53] <_antant> aha! I found that once and couldn't find it again
[01:53] <mycosys> if u cant find it again - search mythtv.org for windows - there is a link on the windows port page
[01:55] <_antant> cheers matey
[01:55] <mycosys> np :)
[02:00] <_antant> is there a key combo to force close an app?
[02:00] <mycosys> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-use-magic-system-request-keys-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[02:06] <_antant> Do you have an antec then?
[02:06] <mycosys> not a fusion, no
[02:06] <mycosys> had a 2400
[02:07] <_antant> does it have a volume control? and if so have you got it working?
[02:07] <mycosys> had been looking at what avenard was doin of late earlier today - just a happy coincidence
[02:07] <_antant> lol
[02:07] <mycosys> nah 2400 is the fusion without the media gear, jus the case
[02:08] <rhpot1991> I didn't care for xbmc mythtv integration
[02:08] <rhpot1991> didn't play well with 0.24
[02:08] <rhpot1991> is there a question in there about an antec fusion that I'm missing?
[02:12] <mycosys> dont need a htpc that fits in a cabinet atm - a tower hides pretty easily behind a 56" TV lol
[02:13] <_antant_> well, true I suppose!
[02:14] <_antant_> Why does mythbuntu not come with an archiver already installed?
[02:14] <_antant_> Any recommendations?
[02:23] <mycosys1> welcome to the can of worms lol
[02:25] <mycosys1> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mythvidexport.py that what you are looking for?
[02:25] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] Mythvidexport.py - MythTV Official Wiki
[02:26] <mycosys1> clever script that moves recordings and their metadata into mythvideo
[02:26] <mycosys1> should be able to use this transcode wrapper BEFORE it to transcode the recording too if you wish
[02:31] <_antant_> Nope. I literally mean a zip/tar handler
[02:44] <myco> goddam nickserv
[02:47] <mycosys> thank god for that
[02:47] <tgm4883> _antant_, it looks like tar is installed by default
[02:48] <mycosys> did i miss anything _antant_
[02:48] <tgm4883> I may have installed it along time ago though
[02:48] <mycosys> was that script what you are lookin for?
[02:49] <mycosys> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Transcode_wrapper_stub is the other script i mentioned before i stuffed up nickserv
[02:49] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] Transcode wrapper stub - MythTV Official Wiki
[02:49] <mycosys> use ti before the move
[02:50] <mycosys> mythvidexport is very clever- can actually export between machines without one machine knowing or caring about the disk location on the other - uses the myth protocol
[02:52] <mycosys> they are both written by one of the mythtv devs, who also happens to be a software engineer
[02:55] <_antant_> Hey mycosys. No, I was literally talking about a zip/tar/whatever utility
[02:55] <mycosys> ahhh
[02:55] <mycosys> tar is there by default
[02:55] <mycosys> so is bzip
[02:55] <_antant_> gui one?
[02:56] <mycosys> gui is for wimps
[02:56] <_antant_> lol
[02:56] <mycosys> or more correctly W.I.M.P.S.
[02:56] <_antant_> be gentle. I'm just ported my box over from the dark side
[02:56] <mycosys> wimps = windows icons menus pointers
[02:57] <mycosys> is a very old pun
[02:57] <mycosys> gui is for wimps
[02:57] <_antant_> describes me well
[02:58] <_antant_> what's the one that comes in plainbuntu?
[03:00] <_antant_> and where did I set my sql password?
[03:01] <mycosys> i have no idea - and the system does it for u during setup
[03:01] <_antant_> file roller is the answer to my first question
[03:01] <mycosys> WIMPs is the normal form of GUI that just about everything uses btw
[03:02] <_antant_> I remember seeing a 6 or 8 char password somewhere when i was setting up but i didn;t change it or note it down
[03:03] <tgm4883> _antant_, mythtv sql password is kept in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[03:04] <tgm4883> if you need the mysql admin password it is different
[03:07] <_antant_> got it, changed it. cheers
[03:07] <_antant_> Now if only I could run this bloody jar file
[03:08] <_antant_> java -jar RemoteDroidServer.jar
[03:08] <_antant_> no?
[03:08] <tgm4883> looks correct, is java installed?
[03:09] <_antant_> yup
[03:09] <_antant_> unable to access jarfile xxx.jar
[03:09] <rhpot1991> _antant_: why not use one of the mythtv droid remotes?
[03:10] <_antant_> I will
[03:10] <_antant_> I wanna be able to use my phone as a mouse too though
[03:10] <rhpot1991> vnc is prob easier
[03:10] <rhpot1991> there are vnc clients for android too
[03:11] <_antant_> yeah, I had this running under win though and I've paid for it
[03:11] <_antant_> only a £ or so, but still
[03:19] <_antant_> any recommended java I should install? used the open jdk/jre
[03:25] <_antant_> fecking great. Now java.awt.headlessexception
[13:57] <perlmonkey> hi guys
[13:58] <perlmonkey> I've just installed mythbuntu 10.10 (master and slave backends) appears to be partially working, but i've got a couple of issues... firstly, playback on the frontend can't be stopped on my remote machine, esc is unresponsible and shortcut keys appear to be also.. any ideas?
[13:59] <perlmonkey> ok please ignore, seems to be responding now..not sure what happened
[14:00] <perlmonkey> second issue... I'm having trouble adding the slave backend to master backend, or figuring out how to share a tv card on slave machine
[14:04] <perlmonkey> I have added my second card to slave backend (first card is in master backend), when I run frontend on slave machine, and select watch TV, I get "All Tuners are Busy. Select a current recording" with only one option (which is the first card/Master backend recording)...why can't I watch the slave backend tuner?
[14:05] <perlmonkey> unresponsiveness issue has returned again... seems it happens for the first few minutes of playback
[14:16] <perlmonkey> unable for some reason to switch between Master and Slave tuner cards...I assume Y is the correct short-key?
[15:13] <perlmonkey> hi
[15:15] <rhpot1991> perlmonkey: did you setup that card on the 2nd backend, you need to run mythtv-setup there too
[15:16] <perlmonkey> thank you rhpot
[15:17] <perlmonkey> im using 2nd card for cctv camera
[16:55] <qwebirc11749> Mythbuntu 10.10 with TeviiS464 (driver and FW installed) "Channel scan" only brings "Encrypted" results. Already tested different LNB settings
[17:41] <perlmonkey> I couldn't make it work
[17:41] <perlmonkey> rhpot1991 I ran myth-setup on the 2nd backend and added the card and video source, inputs, but for some reason it won't let me switch to that card or use it when I Watch TV, it doesn't even come up
[17:42] <perlmonkey> i think maybe something is wrong with the driver...as I just did a cat /dev/video0 test and although it wrote to a file, the video could not be viewed..just freezes
[17:43] <rhpot1991> perlmonkey: 1. are you sure thats the right location
[17:43] <perlmonkey> yes
[17:43] <rhpot1991> what kinda card?
[17:43] <perlmonkey> I put a video source into the card and i saw the image in the video file
[17:43] <perlmonkey> but it only shows the first frame and freezes when i play it in a video player
[17:44] <rhpot1991> sounds like a configuration issue with the card
[17:44] <perlmonkey> It's an Adaptec VideOh! card but it uses the exact same chipset as the Hauppauge PVR-150 and uses the Ivtv driver?
[17:44] <perlmonkey> I have the same card in my master backend which works fine
[17:45] <rhpot1991> should configure the exact same way then
[17:45] <perlmonkey> ya i configured exactly the same with ivtv driver
[17:45] <perlmonkey> but maybe something is wrong on this sys cuz the cat test should of produced a proper video file eh
[17:47] <perlmonkey> complete mystery
[17:48] <perlmonkey> 01:0a.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)
[17:51] <perlmonkey> unable to make it work
[17:52] <perlmonkey> will try again
[18:00] <perlmonkey> well the cat test is now working fine
[18:01] <perlmonkey> i had to reload the driver, so perhaps the driver is not loaded by the sys automatically on boot, I heard of this problem before with ivtv
[18:01] <perlmonkey> right lets try the slave backend now
[18:02] <perlmonkey> damnit
[18:02] <perlmonkey> still won't let me switch cards
[18:04] <perlmonkey> nah just can't get it to work
[18:04] <rhpot1991> perlmonkey: as in says all cards are busy?
[18:05] <perlmonkey> I must be missing some step
[18:05] <rhpot1991> if you check mythweb or info center on your backend, does it list all the cards?
[18:05] <perlmonkey> when I go to Watch TV on frontend, it just automatically starts using master backend card, if i press Y to switch cards it does nothing
[18:05] <perlmonkey> good question, let me check
[18:06] <perlmonkey> aha
[18:06] <perlmonkey> "Tuner 10 has an error"
[18:06] <rhpot1991> check your logs for hints
[18:06] <rhpot1991> !logs
[18:06] <Zinn> MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/   You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin.
[18:06] <perlmonkey> thanks rhpot checking
[18:17] <perlmonkey> strange
[18:17] <perlmonkey> it seems the Y/next card feature has been depreciated
[18:18] <perlmonkey> pressing M brings up a livetv menu with a Switch Input option, but when I select that I get "TV Error: Unknown menu action"
[18:18] <perlmonkey> grrr
[18:19] <perlmonkey> I'm out of options at this point
[18:28] <perlmonkey> still seeing "Tuner 10 has an error"
[18:33] <perlmonkey> I give up.
[18:38] <perlmonkey> looks like either the card itself or the driver maybe screwed
[18:39] <rhpot1991> perlmonkey: could try swapping cards and see what happens
[18:39] <perlmonkey> yeah may have to
[18:39] <perlmonkey> interesting...just discovered something
[18:40] <perlmonkey> it seems that.. if I have frontend running, I cannot play video in a separate video player..
[18:40] <perlmonkey> video from cat from the card I mean, the player just locks up
[18:41] <perlmonkey> i will try replacing the card
[18:43] <rhpot1991> cause its used
[18:44] <rhpot1991> frontend running as in watching video, or just at the menu?
[18:49] <perlmonkey> watching video, but not using that card of course
[18:51] <perlmonkey> it's strange why myth info says the card has an error when it works fine with cat test
[18:54] <perlmonkey> all I can do now is try changing the card
[18:57] <perlmonkey> brb shutting down to fit a brand new card
[19:02] <_antant_> Ahoy
[19:03] <_antant_> I've mounted /dev/sda1 to /mnt/Media, can I then mount /mnt/Media/Media to /home/ant/Media ?
[19:05] <perlmonkey> installed new card, exactly same error in mythtv info system status
[19:05] <perlmonkey> how annoying. but at least the hardware is ok, must be a driver issue or config prob
[19:06] <perlmonkey> completely out of options now
[19:06] <perlmonkey> I wonder...
[19:07] <perlmonkey> if the problem is to do with the fact I have mythbuntu on my master backend, and ubuntu + mythtv packages on my slave backend
[19:07] <perlmonkey> maybe there's some incompatibilty
[19:10] <perlmonkey> wasted half a day on this
[19:13] <degli> Hi all
[19:14] <perlmonkey> hi degli
[19:14] <degli> I'm new user of mythubuntu!!
[19:14] <perlmonkey> cool
[19:14] <degli> but... can I watch the video from megavideo ?
[19:14] <perlmonkey> what is megavideo
[19:15] <_antant_> plenty of ways, degli
[19:15] <_antant_> google it and you'll find at least one
[19:15] <degli> megavideo is a streaming video
[19:15] <perlmonkey> oh neat
[19:15] <degli> ^^
[19:16] <degli> I try to find some plugin from google
[19:16] <rhpot1991> degli: its possible mythnetvision will work
[19:16] <rhpot1991> or miro
[19:16] <rhpot1991> (and mirobridge)
[19:17] <rhpot1991> or just fire up a browser
[19:17] <_antant_> mythweb, yeah
[19:17] <_antant_> lol
[19:17] <degli> mythvweb ? what's? a plugin?
[19:17] <_antant_> are you sure you wouldn't be more comfortable in windows, degli? Not that I'm trying to push people onto win of course
[19:17] <rhpot1991> not mythweb
[19:17] <rhpot1991> mythbrowser
[19:18] <rhpot1991> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category:Plugins
[19:18] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] Category:Plugins - MythTV
[19:18] <degli> _antant_: lol :P
[19:19] <_antant_> rhpot, I've mounted /dev/sda1 to /mnt/STORAGE, can I then mount /mnt/STORAGE/Media to /home/ant/Media ?
[19:19] <_antant_> and can I also mount further media folders to that to combine media collections?
[19:19] <degli> _antant_: no, I can't u can make a link simbolian
[19:20] <degli> ln -s source destination
[19:21] <_antant_> aha. so ln -s /mnt/STORAGE/Media /home/ant/Media then?
[19:21] <degli> ye
[19:21] <degli> ^^
[19:21] <perlmonkey> still getting card error..i can't get it work no matter what I try
[19:21] <_antant_> What card?
[19:21] <perlmonkey> very difficult problem to solve
[19:21] <perlmonkey> _antant_ Adaptec VideOh! (Hauppauge PVR-150 chipset) ivtv driver
[19:22] <degli> I've thi's card https://www.linux-user.de/ausgabe/2005/03/080-satkarten/nexus.jpg
[19:22] <perlmonkey> i wish myth info would give more details on why the card has an error "Tuner 12 has an error" is hardly very helpful
[19:23] <degli> whith DVR w0rk, but I don't know if work on mythtv
[19:23] <_antant_> found this page, perlmonkey?
[19:23] <_antant_> http://www.simsemporium.com/Stuff/Mythtv+-+PVR-150+-+Ubuntu+-+New+Zealand+HOWTO.html
[19:23] <Zinn> [www.simsemporium.com] Mythtv - PVR-150 - Ubuntu - New Zealand HOWTO
[19:23] <perlmonkey> thanks
[19:24] <rhpot1991> _antant_: ya symlink will do, careful using your home dir
[19:24] <degli> can I use the happaugen for watchin g on my tv ?
[19:24] <rhpot1991> mythtv uses special permissions and if you use your home dir it generally causes issues
[19:24] <rhpot1991> you should use /var/lib/mythtv if possible
[19:24] <perlmonkey> ok
[19:24] <rhpot1991> or go ahead and make yourself something like a /mythtv
[19:25] <_antant_> well it's just for my ever expanding media library
[19:25] <_antant_> (which is about to hit 2Tb of HD films. Yay!)
[19:25] <rhpot1991> _antant_: /var/lib/mythtv/videos is prob a good place for it, that should already exist if you installed mythvideo
[19:25] <perlmonkey> where is the directory set?
[19:26] <_antant_> well I'm using xbmc as a media centre
[19:26] <_antant_> I'm just used to it from having an original xbox for so long
[19:26] <rhpot1991> _antant_: dunno how much we can help you here with that
[19:27] <_antant_> Nah, don't need help with xbmc
[19:27] <rhpot1991> perlmonkey: what directory?
[19:27] <perlmonkey> the directory for mythtv to write all its video files into
[20:22] <perlmonkey> ;-(
[20:38] <perlmonkey> i had to give up
[21:02] <perlmonkey> gutted
[21:11] <perlmonkey> mortified
[21:32] <perlmonkey> it's working!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:33] <perlmonkey> sort of...heh
[22:04] <perlmonkey> all working =)
[22:05] <perlmonkey> all this to watch some tv-on-demand programs and install CCTV to keep the TV License goons off my property
[23:45] <_antant_> Anyone recommend any extra repositories?