[07:35] <dpm> good morning all!
[07:39] <henninge> Hi dpm!
[07:40] <dpm> hey henninge, good morning, I'm in your country this week, working from Köln ;)
[07:52] <henninge> dpm: oh, cool! You missed the carnival, though ... ;)
[07:53] <henninge> Or was there a carnival in Valencia, too?
[07:55] <dpm> henninge, I know, we missed it for just one week :(, but school holidays in Valencia did not align well with that. In Valencia it's Falles time this week:
[07:55] <dpm> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falles
[09:08] <andrejz> morning everyone
[09:08] <andrejz> dpm i am glad to report apt translations are fine again with today's update
[09:08] <andrejz> but i was wondering if there are any other programs in ubuntu you know of for which launchpad translations are not used (besides apt and debian-installer)
[09:11] <dpm> hey andrejz, \o/ for apt translations :)
[09:11] <dpm> as per the question, some of them are listed in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/KnowledgeBase/#Special%20translations
[09:11] <dpm> if you find any other, feel free to ping me or add it to the list there
[09:12] <dpm> language-selector translations are also not updated with language packs, but only at the end of the dev cycle, IIRC. That's because during installation translations must be in the source package before the language packs are installed
[09:15] <andrejz> yes, but for these translations in launchpad are used right?
[09:15] <dpm> yeah
[09:16] <andrejz> only difference is the translation deadline and the fact they don't update after stable release (yet)
[09:16] <dpm> exactly
[09:16] <andrejz> so if i translate ddtp in launchpad it will be included in 11.04
[09:16] <dpm> yes
[09:17] <andrejz> good
[09:18] <andrejz> i was wondering if there is any other package like debian installer, because i fixed this bug in translation a long time ago and noticed it was still there and only later found out that debian translations are actually used.. there are no more cases of that kind besides apt and debian-installer ?
[09:18] <dpm> andrejz, firefox is similar, but let me explain it to you in a bit, I've got a phone call in a few minutes and I need to prepare something for it
[09:19] <andrejz> ok
[09:20] <andrejz> i think that xdg-user-dirs is also a non-langpack package
[10:37] <RawChid> Good morning
[10:38] <RawChid> Anyone here who translates for Natty?
[10:54] <RawChid> I'm a member of the Dutch Translators Team and am curious how other teams keeps track of the transaltions
[10:55] <RawChid> We use a wiki so each member can "reserve" it's own packages
[10:55] <head_victim> That's a lot more organised than I've seen
[10:56] <RawChid> What did you saw?
[10:56] <dpm> hi RawChid, good morning, we do the same in the Catalan team, and other teams as well. The Brazilian team have got a bit more automated method, as I seem to remember they write automatically to the wiki the packages needing translations. I think the best thing is to ask on the ubuntu-translators list
[10:56] <RawChid> We have also aspirant members, so DO need review of the full members with more experience
[10:57] <dpm> and I'm sure people will be more than happy to share their workflows
[10:57] <RawChid> Yeah, that's why I asked
[10:57] <RawChid> Fot the Dutch team I wrote a script to generate those wiki pages
[10:57] <RawChid> Maybe it's useful for other teams http://rachidbm.appspot.com/
[11:09] <dpm> RawChid, wow, that's really awesome!
[11:10] <dpm> RawChid, do you think you could add a drop-down menu to select the locale, so that every team could generate their own pages? I.e. so that the URLs don't always point to the 'nl' version
[11:10] <RawChid> Hmm dpm, didn't think of that. Now you can add any URL.
[11:10] <RawChid> But the dropdown is a nice feature
[11:12] <RawChid> The point is that you once (when you start) have to search the right URL, en paste it into the text field. When this is done, you can directly generate a new page via the link on the wiki
[11:12] <dpm> ah, you're right, I did not notice the LAUNCHPAD_URL part
[11:14] <dpm> RawChid, this is really cool, you should definitely post it to the translators list, I'm sure teams will find this extremely useful
[11:14] <RawChid> I'm glad to hear feedback and suggestions for improvement.
[11:15] <RawChid> Oke, I'll do that dpm
[11:15] <dpm> RawChid, yeah, in case you haven't done that yet, my recommendation would be to host the code in Launchpad, and use the bug tracker there. This way people will be able to contribute not only with feedback opening bugs, but also with code branches
[11:16] <RawChid> Oke, the code is already in Launchpad. But on my account
[11:17] <RawChid> Is it an idea to host it under https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations ?
[11:26] <dpm> RawChid, sure, you can choose to host it there or as a project of its own, whatever you prefer
[11:32] <RawChid> Thnx for you insights. I'll look into setting up or joining a LP project. When that is rolled out, I'll post it on the mailing list
[11:32] <RawChid> your*
[12:00] <RawChid> dpm, do you have a suggestion for a proper/informative name? I was thinking of launchpad-status
[12:24] <dpm> RawChid, launchpad-status might be a bit too generic (i.e. launchpad contains more than just translations). What about ul10n-wiki-stats? ('u' for 'ubuntu', 'l10n' for localization) - or perhaps a completely different name?
[12:26] <RawChid> ul10n is great! I saw that in other projects too
[19:00] <ashams> dpm: would you please help me here: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/149205
[19:03] <dpm> hi ashams, sure, let me answer it tomorrow, though, I'm about to go now
[19:03] <ashams> dpm: thank you