[00:32] <douglasawh-work> I won't be able to make it tonight
[00:32] <h00k> douglasawh-work: okay
[00:33] <douglasawh-work> but I'm installing ubuntu as we speak in concession
[00:35] <h00k> that makes up for it, then
[01:00] <lostson> would love to but just got home from work and have stuff to take care of here first hopefully i can catch up later
[01:01] <h00k> lostson: I know the feeling
[01:02] <h00k> exigraff, intok, jrolland-ubuntu, mikeputnam, nickmoeck, ripps, twopoint718, uberushaximus, anyone around?
[01:03] <twopoint718> I'm here
[01:04] <h00k> Oi!
[01:04] <h00k> We've got 2.
[01:04] <twopoint718> haha
[01:04] <twopoint718> You should reschedule it to last week
[01:04] <h00k> :D
[01:04] <h00k> we had more people
[01:05] <exigraff> okay, /me is here
[01:05] <exigraff> the party can begin
[01:05] <h00k> Three!
[01:06] <h00k> So, mostly I wanted to talk about Release Parties.
[01:06] <h00k> I am having one in Rhinelander, it sounds like Madison is going to have *something*, date to-be-determined
[01:06] <h00k> as is the one in Rhinelander
[01:07] <h00k> twopoint718: ...excuse me for being terrible...where you located again?
[01:07] <twopoint718> h00k: madison
[01:07] <h00k> Yes. That.
[01:08] <twopoint718> douglasawh-work and I will talk it over at Ubuntu hour on Saturday for sure
[01:08] <h00k> exigraff: anything you've heard about up there?
[01:08] <h00k> twopoint718: cool, yeah, we sorta talked about it on the madlug-sc list
[01:08] <twopoint718> Ah yes, I forget that you're on that. :)
[01:08] <h00k> ;) I'm that one out-of-place guy.
[01:09] <exigraff> nothing up here, though I'm not really connected to any die-hard 'buntu users here
[01:09] <h00k> ripps would probably be pumped to win another keyboard/mouse
[01:10] <h00k> but I don't havetime to plan one up there, too
[01:10] <h00k> cool. So, we may have 2. One for sure.
[01:10] <exigraff> I /will/ spend the night being slovenly drunk in #ubuntu-release-party, for whatever that's worth
[01:10] <h00k> that's more than before
[01:10] <twopoint718> Oh, that's right! We should have prizes.
[01:10] <h00k> Something else I thought of...is doing a member-of-the-month...
[01:10] <h00k> get a pic, and a short write-up
[01:11] <h00k> voted on during a *monthly* meeting!
[01:11] <h00k> and throw it on ubuntu-wisconsin.org
[01:13] <exigraff> I wanted to do member profiles, this could tie in with that
[01:13] <h00k> It could, that'd be cool.
[01:15] <h00k> So.  Cool, we had more people around for last-weeks canceled meeting, everyone was distracted with Madison stuffs,
[01:16] <h00k> aaaaaand now we have 3.
[01:17] <twopoint718> I thought we had three before
[01:17] <h00k> well, there were some drifters, one Ubuntu-WiGuest who emailed me later,
[01:17] <twopoint718> Ahh.
[01:18] <h00k> which was cool, and he was interested in attending the Release Party up here
[01:18]  * twopoint718 does a "/names"
[01:18] <twopoint718> So if you have a member of the month thing, how would that be selected?
[01:19] <h00k> by other people that attend the meeting :D
[01:19] <h00k> This was just a thought I had today, anyway. It's still pretty fresh.
[01:20] <h00k> nominations and voting, perhaps separated by a month, people could email their activities to the mailing list, and then voting could take place the next month
[01:22] <twopoint718> I see.
[01:24] <h00k> Just an idea, anyway.
[01:25] <h00k> People say they want to be involved...have release parties and fun things
[01:25] <h00k> buuuuuuuuuut then they don't show up :(
[01:26] <h00k> or like exigraff, who shows up, says a few words, and gets distracted (I only say this because he's a close personal friend, I'm not attacking him :) )
[01:26] <exigraff> HI GUYS
[01:26] <h00k> ^ this guy
[01:26] <exigraff> Convore.
[01:27] <h00k> https://convore.com/ ?
[01:27] <exigraff> yeah, that
[01:29] <exigraff> in the spirit of let's-add-one-more-medium-because-it-might-change-everything
[01:29] <h00k> hmm.
[01:29]  * h00k facepalms
[01:29] <h00k> Which reminds me, actually
[01:29] <h00k> I hate Facebook...it'd be super-cool if someone wanted to be facebook-announcer for stuff like meetings
[01:29] <h00k> I can do Identi.ca, twitter,
[01:30] <h00k> We have an existing group
[01:30] <exigraff> it might not be a bad idea to join forces with another loco, now that I think of it
[01:31] <h00k> We have worked with the Ubuntu MN LoCo in the past
[01:31] <h00k> exigraff: what do you mean, "join forces?"
[01:32] <exigraff> not indefinitely, but I think if we merge our meetings and enter into a larger group discussion, it may be less of a drag to make things happen in the small group that we have here
[01:32] <exigraff> if that makes sense
[01:32] <exigraff> borrow momentum
[01:32] <exigraff> Ubuntu Midwest
[01:34] <twopoint718> h00k: I hear you on the "yeah we want the group to do fun activities" but then nobody shows up.
[01:34] <twopoint718> What's with that?
[01:34] <h00k> I don't know, but I'm actually doing an interest survey right now that I'll send to the mailing list
[01:34] <twopoint718> Good.
[01:34] <h00k> Maybe I can gain some insight to it
[01:34] <h00k> People seem to *want* to do things...they just don't
[01:35] <h00k> and I'm not sure why, but if we can pick up on our strengths and use them
[01:35] <exigraff> the people who voluntarily step up and take point are few and far between
[01:35] <h00k> ^ this
[01:35] <exigraff> given our numbers (low) and dispersion (high), every initiative that our loco takes is going to require this kind of person
[01:36] <twopoint718> Their scheduler is all messed up, they have the priority of linux events set somewhere between ironing their jeans and cleaning the refrigerator
[01:36] <exigraff> which is why it might not hurt to join up with another loco, one that already has a track record of Doing Things on a regular basis
[01:36] <exigraff> if only to get into that mindset
[01:36] <exigraff> collectively
[01:36] <h00k> exigraff: good luck finding one in the Midwest that isn't Chicago ;)
[01:37] <exigraff> what's wrong with Chicago?
[01:37] <h00k> I know Ubuntu MN seems to be in a similar situation
[01:37] <h00k> exigraff: Nothing, but physical location.
[01:37] <twopoint718> Chicago's center of gravity would tend to draw things in that direction
[01:37] <h00k> yep.
[01:37] <exigraff> oh, pff. physicality is great, but I don't think there's any point in deluding ourselves here
[01:37] <h00k> Which is why we have this cool thing called the Internet, so that we can converse from geographically diverse locations!
[01:37] <h00k> like all around Wisconsin
[01:38] <h00k> if we can focus on what people *are* actually interested, spark some sort of motivation to help or participate,
[01:38]  * h00k opens a query with tonyyarusso
[01:38] <h00k> I'll get this survey out to Ubuntu MN, too
[01:38] <exigraff> even just choosing some other logo/lug/something meeting a month to join - "okay guys, this month we're meeting up with Loco $x to see what we can learn from each other"
[01:38] <h00k> and I'll publish these results, too.
[01:39] <exigraff> cool
[01:39] <h00k> exigraff: also, for that, there's a loco-contacts mailing list that I'm on
[01:39] <h00k> for that purpose
[01:39] <exigraff> sweet
[01:41] <h00k> so, we may have 2 release parties, that's what I got.
[01:42] <h00k> I don't even think asking any activities for the Global Jam is a good idea :(
[01:42] <h00k> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam
[01:42] <h00k> er
[01:42] <h00k> The Ubuntu Global Jam is an incredible opportunity for the Ubuntu community to unite together around the weekend of 1st - 3rd April 2011 to work together to improve Ubuntu. Everyone is able to contribute to the Jam, and everyone is welcome and encouraged to get involved. Curious about how to make a real difference to Ubuntu? This is a great chance to make that difference.
[01:42] <h00k> there we goes
[01:45] <exigraff> if it hasn't been done, they should add questionanswering on askubuntu.com to the list of ways to participate
[01:45] <h00k> http://www.ubuntu.com/community/get-involved
[01:47] <exigraff> it's not mentioned anywhere there, from what I can se
[01:47] <exigraff> see
[01:47] <h00k> exigraff: question/answer, like Support?
[01:47] <h00k> exigraff: or, what do you mean?
[01:47] <twopoint718> yeah, I noticed ubuntu's new stackoverflow-ish Q&A site
[01:48] <h00k> And I don't know if that's "Official" or not, there was a huge mailing list thread about it
[01:48] <h00k> I'll be honest, because if it's size, I didn't follow closely :(
[01:48] <h00k> Launchpad has it's Answers section
[01:48] <exigraff> heh
[01:48] <exigraff> launchpad
[01:49] <exigraff> it'd still be a good move to encourage people to visit http://askubuntu.com/unanswered and help out where they can
[01:49] <exigraff> that's a very objective .. objective
[01:50] <h00k> Sure, of course it's good to help there, but there's a also places at Launchpad with unanswered questions as well
[01:51] <h00k> and the IRC channel #ubuntu is always looking for supporters
[01:51] <h00k> and the forums, and mailing lists,
[01:51] <exigraff> yep
We do have a pretty consistent Ubuntu Hour here in Madison</plug>
[01:56] <h00k> That's true!
[01:56] <h00k> sorry, I've been distracted with this form
[01:57] <h00k> twopoint718: approximately how many do you have attending/month?
[01:59] <twopoint718> It is usually around 3 or 4.
[01:59] <twopoint718> Of that 2 or 3 are hosting it (as in me, Doug, Eric, or Brad)
[02:01] <h00k> twopoint718: yeah...that's still cool, anyway
[02:06] <h00k> Cool, I think I'm about done with this
[02:06] <h00k> I'll send it to the mailing list
[02:21] <twopoint718> I'll look for it.
[02:22] <h00k> Cool.
[02:22] <h00k> aaaaaaaaand
[02:23] <h00k> sent.
[02:26] <h00k> twopoint718: thanks for coming, anyway
[02:28] <ripps> oh crap, I forgot about the meeting
[02:28] <h00k> ripps: :)
[02:28] <h00k> YOU'RE FIRED
[02:28] <h00k> just kidding, welcome
[02:28] <h00k> ripps: we didn't do much, just that I'm going to have a Release Party in Rhinelander, maybe one in Madison
[02:30] <dwhitfie> looks like I didn't miss everything...
[02:30] <h00k> And then I dediced to make an interest form to figure out why people say they want to do stuff but never show up :)
[02:30] <dwhitfie> sorry, my "main" computer is down...thanks natty
[02:30] <dwhitfie> hanging at collectd
[02:30] <h00k> dwhitfie: :/ :(
[02:33] <ripps> If there was one closer to superior....
[02:33] <ripps> I wanted to show off my new CR-48
[02:34] <h00k> ripps: YOU are the one that got one.
[02:34] <h00k> ripps: I was watching the list :(
[02:34] <h00k> ripps: jealous.
[02:35] <ripps> I've already set the thing to developer mode and have started compile programs on my desktop and running them on the cr48
[02:36] <h00k> of course you have
[02:36] <ripps> I've got mplayer2 running on, pretty nice.
[02:36] <ripps> Hopefully google will upgrade the intel drivers so that I can get vaapi
[02:44] <dwhitfie> I just realized what CR-48 is...sorta...with the GOOG comment
[03:00] <h00k> dwhitfie: it's that sweet google laptop
[03:00] <h00k> http://www.google.com/chromeos/pilot-program-cr48.html
[03:02] <nickmoeck> Sorry about not being here for the meeting
[03:03] <h00k> nickmoeck: no prob
[03:03] <nickmoeck> So, I'm expecting to have about 50mbps of extra bandwidth at any given time, possibly more, and I'd like to use that to help out Ubunty
[03:04] <nickmoeck> *Ubuntu
[03:05] <nickmoeck> I don't think that would be enough to run a mirror of the entire repo
[03:06] <nickmoeck> Hmm... maybe it would.  It appears some mirrors are running on 10mbps
[03:09] <h00k> I have on on 10gb
[03:10] <nickmoeck> unfortunately, the mirror won't be very helpful for us here in wisconsin, since the server will be located in Texas
[03:11] <h00k> nickmoeck: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[03:11] <nickmoeck> Yeah, I was just looking at that
[03:11] <h00k> I'm using Argonne National Laboratory
[03:47] <lostson> whew ok baby asleep time for dad to get to work on mimic what did i miss ?
[03:49] <h00k> lostson: not much :D
[03:49] <h00k> lostson: I threw out an interest survey to the mailing list, see what kinds of things people are actually interested in
[03:49] <lostson> yeah saw that come through on my droid
[03:49] <h00k> cool
[03:53] <lostson> i will have to go through it my hours got switched so i work til 8 then wife needs to get a nap before she goes to work so its kinda hard to sit down
[03:54] <h00k> lostson: no problem, I understand, no rush :)
[03:58] <lostson> just not enough hours in the day
[03:58] <h00k> I completely agree
[03:59] <lostson> brb
[04:03] <lostson> ok there back in mimic
[04:03] <h00k> :D
[04:05] <lostson> writing the code and everything is easy its writing the man pages and making good docs that kinda sux : )
[06:51] <ripps> h00k: about the survey... technically, I don't live in Wi
[06:55] <ripps> I'll just put twin-ports for now
[15:40] <antikoa> the meeting was last night wasnt it
[15:41] <dwhitfie> antikoa: yes
[15:41] <antikoa> Son of a cursecurse
[15:46] <dwhitfie> why is natty installing gfortran?
[15:46] <dwhitfie> what part of ubuntu is in fortran?
[15:47] <antikoa> just a compiler
[15:48] <dwhitfie> but why?
[15:52] <antikoa> i would assume it is a default thing like a c or c++...
[16:41] <douglasawh> machine 1 of 2 fixed.  The 2nd one now recognizes being plug in·  That's more than it was doing before
[16:48] <douglasawh> do I need to register a channel to be able to become an op? No one is an op in #musicmanumit and I can't figure out how to become an op
[17:00] <douglasawh> ok, looks like I do need to register the channel.  I don't understand why it was so hard to find that info though. I've looked a couple times
[17:00] <douglasawh> hmm, probably just not going to happen with #sportazine
[17:08] <h00k> ripps: that's okay :)
[17:08] <h00k> antikoa: yeah, it was, but you didn't miss much
[17:08] <h00k> antikoa: and then I decided to send out a survey
[17:36] <douglasawh> natty upgrade time
[17:44] <h00k> I'm doing a reinstall right now, actually, to test the installer
[18:11] <douglasawh> no problems with upgrade. yay!
[18:14] <h00k> awwright
[18:15] <h00k> douglasawh: ^
[18:18] <h00k> Greetings
[18:33] <douglasawh_> computer two of two fixed!  the power button on the other one is loose.  So, I guess it's not "fixed" but I figurd out it will turn on
[18:36] <douglasawh_> laptop mouse doesn't appear to work, so that's a bummer but it's gigantic so not a real great laptop anyway
[18:59] <douglasawh_> meh. tossing it. wireless doesn't seem to be working.  I'm not sure if it was Chakra or not, but Chakra worked on another machine...just not sure if it installs all the drivers like ubuntu does.  Too many other things to do.
[19:29] <h00k> douglasawh_: what wireless card?
[19:29] <h00k> douglasawh_: and is wireless encrypted?