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sithlord48does the open ati driver allow the use of texture compression ? or will that be something i ned the properitary driver for ? i have an ati4830 00:47
RAOFIf by “texture compression” you mean the compressed texture formats like S3TC, then “kinda”.00:49
sithlord48honestly i don't know im trying to play a game in wine and it fails to launch due to lack of hw texture compression support. figure the driver is a good place to start00:50
RAOFI think kernel support landed in 2.6.38, and I think mesa support is in 7.10.  That merely leaves you with needing libdxtc.00:50
sithlord48um 2.6.35 is my kernel00:51
RAOFWell, it's not going to work against anything older than Natty.00:51
sithlord48ah well then, i would attempt on my netbook but its a pos intel 945 chip...00:52
sithlord48so for now i would have to use the properiatry driver if i wanted that option?00:52
RAOFYes.00:52
RAOFAnd you'd need to build libdxtc, too, which isn't packaged in the archives.00:53
RAOF(Although I guess it might want to be; sucky patents!)00:53
sithlord48the only issue i have w/ that is that driver breaks my xsever basicly after every kernel upgrade.00:53
RAOFYou're installing from the Ubuntu packages, right?00:53
sithlord48no .. 00:54
RAOFWell, don't do that; it'll break your xserver each kernel upgrade :)00:54
sithlord48no no ... from the ati page., the included driver is almost always old. 00:54
RAOFRight.  But it *works*.00:54
sithlord48very true.. 00:55
sithlord48or i can upgrade to natty.. 00:55
sithlord48i have it on my netbook , just i compile w/ this so i try to keep it as "current" but i can just set up a vm easily.00:55
sithlord48well thank you for the info RAOF00:58
RAOFSponsor trawl time!  Who'd like to upload a re-enabled IA32 assembler version of mesa?04:48
tjaaltonRAOF: yeah06:41
tjaaltonRAOF: looks like was uploaded already06:59
leshastehi 08:18
leshastedo I report problems with xorg-edgers to the ubuntu bugzilla?08:31
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tjaaltonleshaste: what problems? if they are upstream bugs they should go to bugs.freedesktop.org08:50
hrwhi09:03
hrwsomeone has a cure for radeon GPU lookup?09:04
tjaaltonhrw: is it reported on launchpad?09:04
hrwI will check after reboot - now I am using other machine which lacks good browser speed09:05
hrw[490105.390045] radeon 0000:01:00.0: GPU lockup CP stall for more than 10100msec09:05
hrw[490105.390086] GPU lockup (waiting for 0x004D1010 last fence id 0x004D100D)09:05
tjaaltonso you haven't reported it there yet+09:06
tjaalton?09:06
tjaaltonthat's the first step09:06
hrwfirst is "check is it reported" and I will do09:06
hrwok, reboot09:08
RAOFbryceh: We should now be ready for 1.10RC3, right?09:17
tjaaltonwhy not final?09:18
RAOFThe build broke between RC3 and final.09:24
tjaaltonso revert the commit that broke it with a patch09:24
tjaalton?09:24
tjaaltonor maybe not. which commit was it btw?09:26
RAOFOne of the doc ones.  Back after dinner.09:26
leshastetjaalton: I get lots of image/font corruption09:31
tjaaltonleshaste: sounds upstreamish, file on b.fd.o09:31
leshastetjaalton: could you give me a hand with that? It's not obvious to me which component for example09:32
tjaaltonleshaste: what hw?09:32
leshaste01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 [Radeon Xpress 200G Series]09:33
tjaaltonproduct xorg, component driver/radeon09:33
leshasteok.. thanks.. Then it asks for the version.  http://pastebin.com/3zuERScS is the X log09:34
leshasteI see X.Org X Server 1.8.2 but it wants 7.x09:34
tjaaltonoh, please test natty first09:34
hrwre09:35
leshasteI can't really do that easily09:35
tjaaltonlivecd out of the question?09:35
hrwI found it - bug 729717 09:35
ubot4`Launchpad bug 729717 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) "WARNING: at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.38/drivers/gpu/drm/radeon/radeon_fence.c:248 radeon_fence_wait 0x2ea/0x350 radeon (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72971709:35
leshastexorg-edgers is meant t up to date no?09:35
tjaaltonyou have the maverick kernel for instance09:35
leshastetjaalton: I have the latest xorg-edgers one for lucid I believe09:36
tjaaltonand I'm not sure if mesa in edgers is updated09:36
tjaaltonoh lucid09:36
tjaaltontotally unsupported combination I guess :)09:36
leshastethere is "== New in Mesa - 03/08/2011 ==" at https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa09:36
tjaaltontry natty alpha3 livecd and then file a bug if there's one09:36
tjaaltonon launchpad09:37
leshastethe xorg edgers page does say you can report bugs!09:37
tjaaltonso file one09:37
leshastebut maybe on launchpad not freedesktop right?09:37
tjaaltonI don't know all the answers..09:37
tjaaltonthe first question will be to test on natty anyway...09:37
hrwI added apport informations to bug09:37
leshastetjaalton: ok.. back to the other question.. what 7.x version corresponds to  X.Org X Server 1.8.2 ?09:38
tjaaltonleshaste: you don't need to specify that09:38
leshasteok09:39
tjaaltonstill, they are going to ask to test with the latest kernel..09:39
leshastein the subject, they like to have useful information :)09:39
tjaaltonso please try with natty alpha3 first09:39
leshastehow?09:40
jcristauuseful information is 'test with a recent version'09:40
tjaaltonleshaste: download a livecd, boot with that09:40
leshasteoh I see09:40
tjaaltonno need to install anything09:40
leshastegood point09:40
leshasteok.. It's all a little frustrating as it all worked fine until lucid09:40
tjaaltonif you can reproduce the problem easily, then you should be able to confirm if it's still there or not09:40
leshastehardy was great :)09:40
leshasteI can reproduce it .. there is a web page that seems to do the trick09:41
tjaaltonhrw: sure it's the same bug?09:41
leshasteintrepid/jaunty were fine too09:41
tjaaltonhrw: ok the dmesg oops does look similar09:42
tjaaltonhrw: you could try to install the -7 kernel by hand09:43
tjaaltonlinux-image-2.6.38-7-generic09:44
tjaaltonnot sure if it's built yet though09:44
hrwsure09:44
hrwinstalling09:47
hrwamazing... first time I got gpu lockup so fast after reboot09:51
hrwok, booting to 2.6.8-7.3509:51
leshastehi11:12
leshastebryceh: turns out that 2.6.38 fixes the problem but 2.6.35 does not11:12
leshasteany idea what [   24.456286] [drm:radeon_get_legacy_connector_info_from_bios] *ERROR* Unknown connector type: 8 means though?11:14
lesshastehi.. somewhere between 2.6.35 and 2.6.38 the radeon driver was fixed for my system.   which means that it doesn't really work for lucid or maverick  at least13:55
lesshasteis this of interest to anyone?13:55
tjaaltonnot really :)14:03
tjaaltonunless you can bisect it14:03
tjaaltonwhich is close to being hopeless14:04
lesshastethat was my bisection :)14:04
lesshasteafter maverick and before 2.6.38 :)14:04
lesshasteI can tell you exactly how to reproduce it and what the drm error is too14:05
lesshasteactually if I could easily install 36 and 37 then I could just test those14:05
lesshasteit's not hard to do14:05
lesshasteis there a nice way to do this?14:05
Sarvattlesshaste: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/14:07
lesshasteSarvatt: oh yes I have all those already14:19
lesshastethat's how I got 2.6.3814:19
lesshastewell if anyone were interested, I would be happy to say where the problem was fixed14:20
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lesshasteat least down to the resolution offered by http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/14:21

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