[00:47] <sithlord48> does the open ati driver allow the use of texture compression ? or will that be something i ned the properitary driver for ? i have an ati4830 
[00:49] <RAOF> If by “texture compression” you mean the compressed texture formats like S3TC, then “kinda”.
[00:50] <sithlord48> honestly i don't know im trying to play a game in wine and it fails to launch due to lack of hw texture compression support. figure the driver is a good place to start
[00:50] <RAOF> I think kernel support landed in 2.6.38, and I think mesa support is in 7.10.  That merely leaves you with needing libdxtc.
[00:51] <sithlord48> um 2.6.35 is my kernel
[00:51] <RAOF> Well, it's not going to work against anything older than Natty.
[00:52] <sithlord48> ah well then, i would attempt on my netbook but its a pos intel 945 chip...
[00:52] <sithlord48> so for now i would have to use the properiatry driver if i wanted that option?
[00:52] <RAOF> Yes.
[00:53] <RAOF> And you'd need to build libdxtc, too, which isn't packaged in the archives.
[00:53] <RAOF> (Although I guess it might want to be; sucky patents!)
[00:53] <sithlord48> the only issue i have w/ that is that driver breaks my xsever basicly after every kernel upgrade.
[00:53] <RAOF> You're installing from the Ubuntu packages, right?
[00:54] <sithlord48> no .. 
[00:54] <RAOF> Well, don't do that; it'll break your xserver each kernel upgrade :)
[00:54] <sithlord48> no no ... from the ati page., the included driver is almost always old. 
[00:54] <RAOF> Right.  But it *works*.
[00:55] <sithlord48> very true.. 
[00:55] <sithlord48> or i can upgrade to natty.. 
[00:55] <sithlord48> i have it on my netbook , just i compile w/ this so i try to keep it as "current" but i can just set up a vm easily.
[00:58] <sithlord48> well thank you for the info RAOF
[04:48] <RAOF> Sponsor trawl time!  Who'd like to upload a re-enabled IA32 assembler version of mesa?
[06:41] <tjaalton> RAOF: yeah
[06:59] <tjaalton> RAOF: looks like was uploaded already
[08:18] <leshaste> hi 
[08:31] <leshaste> do I report problems with xorg-edgers to the ubuntu bugzilla?
[08:50] <tjaalton> leshaste: what problems? if they are upstream bugs they should go to bugs.freedesktop.org
[09:03] <hrw> hi
[09:04] <hrw> someone has a cure for radeon GPU lookup?
[09:04] <tjaalton> hrw: is it reported on launchpad?
[09:05] <hrw> I will check after reboot - now I am using other machine which lacks good browser speed
[09:05] <hrw> [490105.390045] radeon 0000:01:00.0: GPU lockup CP stall for more than 10100msec
[09:05] <hrw> [490105.390086] GPU lockup (waiting for 0x004D1010 last fence id 0x004D100D)
[09:06] <tjaalton> so you haven't reported it there yet+
[09:06] <tjaalton> ?
[09:06] <tjaalton> that's the first step
[09:06] <hrw> first is "check is it reported" and I will do
[09:08] <hrw> ok, reboot
[09:17] <RAOF> bryceh: We should now be ready for 1.10RC3, right?
[09:18] <tjaalton> why not final?
[09:24] <RAOF> The build broke between RC3 and final.
[09:24] <tjaalton> so revert the commit that broke it with a patch
[09:24] <tjaalton> ?
[09:26] <tjaalton> or maybe not. which commit was it btw?
[09:26] <RAOF> One of the doc ones.  Back after dinner.
[09:31] <leshaste> tjaalton: I get lots of image/font corruption
[09:31] <tjaalton> leshaste: sounds upstreamish, file on b.fd.o
[09:32] <leshaste> tjaalton: could you give me a hand with that? It's not obvious to me which component for example
[09:32] <tjaalton> leshaste: what hw?
[09:33] <leshaste> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 [Radeon Xpress 200G Series]
[09:33] <tjaalton> product xorg, component driver/radeon
[09:34] <leshaste> ok.. thanks.. Then it asks for the version.  http://pastebin.com/3zuERScS is the X log
[09:34] <leshaste> I see X.Org X Server 1.8.2 but it wants 7.x
[09:34] <tjaalton> oh, please test natty first
[09:35] <hrw> re
[09:35] <leshaste> I can't really do that easily
[09:35] <tjaalton> livecd out of the question?
[09:35] <hrw> I found it - bug 729717 
[09:35] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 729717 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) "WARNING: at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.38/drivers/gpu/drm/radeon/radeon_fence.c:248 radeon_fence_wait 0x2ea/0x350 radeon (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/729717
[09:35] <leshaste> xorg-edgers is meant t up to date no?
[09:35] <tjaalton> you have the maverick kernel for instance
[09:36] <leshaste> tjaalton: I have the latest xorg-edgers one for lucid I believe
[09:36] <tjaalton> and I'm not sure if mesa in edgers is updated
[09:36] <tjaalton> oh lucid
[09:36] <tjaalton> totally unsupported combination I guess :)
[09:36] <leshaste> there is "== New in Mesa - 03/08/2011 ==" at https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[09:36] <tjaalton> try natty alpha3 livecd and then file a bug if there's one
[09:37] <tjaalton> on launchpad
[09:37] <leshaste> the xorg edgers page does say you can report bugs!
[09:37] <tjaalton> so file one
[09:37] <leshaste> but maybe on launchpad not freedesktop right?
[09:37] <tjaalton> I don't know all the answers..
[09:37] <tjaalton> the first question will be to test on natty anyway...
[09:37] <hrw> I added apport informations to bug
[09:38] <leshaste> tjaalton: ok.. back to the other question.. what 7.x version corresponds to  X.Org X Server 1.8.2 ?
[09:38] <tjaalton> leshaste: you don't need to specify that
[09:39] <leshaste> ok
[09:39] <tjaalton> still, they are going to ask to test with the latest kernel..
[09:39] <leshaste> in the subject, they like to have useful information :)
[09:39] <tjaalton> so please try with natty alpha3 first
[09:40] <leshaste> how?
[09:40] <jcristau> useful information is 'test with a recent version'
[09:40] <tjaalton> leshaste: download a livecd, boot with that
[09:40] <leshaste> oh I see
[09:40] <tjaalton> no need to install anything
[09:40] <leshaste> good point
[09:40] <leshaste> ok.. It's all a little frustrating as it all worked fine until lucid
[09:40] <tjaalton> if you can reproduce the problem easily, then you should be able to confirm if it's still there or not
[09:40] <leshaste> hardy was great :)
[09:41] <leshaste> I can reproduce it .. there is a web page that seems to do the trick
[09:41] <tjaalton> hrw: sure it's the same bug?
[09:41] <leshaste> intrepid/jaunty were fine too
[09:42] <tjaalton> hrw: ok the dmesg oops does look similar
[09:43] <tjaalton> hrw: you could try to install the -7 kernel by hand
[09:44] <tjaalton> linux-image-2.6.38-7-generic
[09:44] <tjaalton> not sure if it's built yet though
[09:44] <hrw> sure
[09:47] <hrw> installing
[09:51] <hrw> amazing... first time I got gpu lockup so fast after reboot
[09:51] <hrw> ok, booting to 2.6.8-7.35
[11:12] <leshaste> hi
[11:12] <leshaste> bryceh: turns out that 2.6.38 fixes the problem but 2.6.35 does not
[11:14] <leshaste> any idea what [   24.456286] [drm:radeon_get_legacy_connector_info_from_bios] *ERROR* Unknown connector type: 8 means though?
[13:55] <lesshaste> hi.. somewhere between 2.6.35 and 2.6.38 the radeon driver was fixed for my system.   which means that it doesn't really work for lucid or maverick  at least
[13:55] <lesshaste> is this of interest to anyone?
[14:03] <tjaalton> not really :)
[14:03] <tjaalton> unless you can bisect it
[14:04] <tjaalton> which is close to being hopeless
[14:04] <lesshaste> that was my bisection :)
[14:04] <lesshaste> after maverick and before 2.6.38 :)
[14:05] <lesshaste> I can tell you exactly how to reproduce it and what the drm error is too
[14:05] <lesshaste> actually if I could easily install 36 and 37 then I could just test those
[14:05] <lesshaste> it's not hard to do
[14:05] <lesshaste> is there a nice way to do this?
[14:07] <Sarvatt> lesshaste: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[14:19] <lesshaste> Sarvatt: oh yes I have all those already
[14:19] <lesshaste> that's how I got 2.6.38
[14:20] <lesshaste> well if anyone were interested, I would be happy to say where the problem was fixed
[14:21] <lesshaste> at least down to the resolution offered by http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/