[00:26] <Cimi> kklimonda: I've fixed murrine for transmission...
[00:26] <Cimi> kklimonda: I didn't see you already pushed a patch, I just had time to work on that
[00:27] <kklimonda> Cimi: can you still post a patch to the bug? Your solution may be better than the one written by T develope (I remember him saying that it's a workaround)
[00:28] <Cimi> kklimonda: just update murrine's package
[00:28] <kklimonda> ah, it's in murrine? great :)
[00:28] <Cimi> yep
[00:29] <Cimi> it's a workaround
[00:29] <Cimi> bug is in cairo I think
[00:29] <Cimi> I'm using a lower quality rendering for cellrenderers
[00:30] <Cimi> (I0m now using)
[01:34] <kenvandine> Cimi, i uploaded overlay-scrollbars release to the ppa
[01:48] <Cimi> kenvandine: I've also patched murrine to speedup things
[01:48] <Cimi> kenvandine: I don't want to release right now, could you backport from git?
[01:48] <kenvandine> maybe
[01:48] <kenvandine> is it one commit?
[01:49] <Cimi> kenvandine: yep
[01:49] <Cimi> plus I would suggest another one for mpt
[01:49] <kenvandine> which one
[01:49] <Cimi> http://git.gnome.org/browse/murrine/log/
[01:50] <Cimi> kenvandine: the two commits from myself
[01:50] <Cimi> kenvandine: after yours
[01:51] <kenvandine> ok
[01:52] <kenvandine> http://git.gnome.org/browse/murrine/commit/?id=9077c76d54b30d89e4b2eaaabd542fd1d9015732
[01:52] <kenvandine> that one?
[01:53] <Cimi> kenvandine: plus the ltest
[01:53] <Cimi> *latest
[01:53] <kenvandine> yeah
[02:11] <Daekdroom> I thought the problem was fixed in transmission.
[02:14] <Cimi> Daekdroom: by a patch applied to transmission
[02:14] <Cimi> Daekdroom: I've added a workaround in murrine instead
[02:14] <Daekdroom> yep, applied to transmission according to bug 655024
[02:20] <kenvandine> Cimi, i am uploading the patch for mpt to natty, then i'll upload another version with the scrollbar performance stuff to the ppa until we get the ffe
[02:20] <Cimi> kenvandine: ok
[02:31] <kenvandine> Cimi, ok both uploaded
[02:31] <Cimi> kenvandine: awesome
[08:04] <MacSlow> hey folks
[08:46] <Nitesh> problem with unity launcher http://twitpic.com/4al9uy
[09:11] <elricL> Hey,I am getting an error when i try to run cmake after the latest pull of unity,any idea how to fix it?
[09:11] <elricL> pastebin.com/kpCLRdEh
[09:12] <RAOF> Does compiz segfault for anyone else as soon as the dash tries to display?
[09:28] <elricL> Hey,I am getting an error when i try to run cmake after the latest pull of unity,any idea how to fix it? pastebin.com/kpCLRdEh
[11:08] <robtaylor> jaytaoko: any ideas why compiz would be reporting GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing, despite glxinfo claiming otherwise?
[12:13] <nerochiaro> njpatel: one quick question about .place files. is there any doc for what ShowEntry and ShowGlobal should do ? I recall i had a link to a wiki page at some point but can't find it anymore
[12:25] <loicm> robtaylor: IIRC compiz checks the GLX extensions (last section in glxinfo) not the server nor the client GLX extensions (1st and 2nd sections in glxinfo)
[12:35] <robtaylor> loicm: ah, now, is that a bug or deliberate?
[12:35] <robtaylor> loicm: funnily I'd just figured that out, and was just jumping back to irc to ask if anyone knew why ;)
[12:37] <njpatel> nerochiaro, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Lenses?action=show&redirect=Unity%2FPlaces
[12:37] <njpatel> nerochiaro, ShowEntry is whether the entry should appear in the launcher and ShowGlobal is whether the entry should be part of global search
[12:38] <nerochiaro> njpatel: global search is what you get when no place entry is active, right ?
[12:38] <njpatel> nerochiaro, right, when youpress Super or click on the ubuntu icon
[12:39] <nerochiaro> njpatel: ok, that helps. thanks
[12:39] <njpatel> np
[12:39]  * njpatel restarts
[13:23] <loicm> robtaylor: :)
[13:23] <loicm> robtaylor: I think that's deliberate to ensure that both client and server support the extension
[13:24] <rr0hit> bug 737469  puts forward a nice suggestion according to me. Someone please have a look.
[13:25] <robtaylor> loicm: well, thats the strange thing, reported as both client and server extentions here
[13:25] <robtaylor> loicm: but doesn't appear in GLX extentions
[13:26] <robtaylor> loicm: and weirder, does appear if i switch back on modesetting, but then other bad things happen with EDID reading
[13:26] <robtaylor> *shrug* flakey drivers :(
[13:40] <loicm> robtaylor: yeah, that's the main issue...
[13:43] <jcastro> kamstrup: https://launchpad.net/askubuntu-lense/
[13:44] <jcastro> njpatel_: ok so when I look at branches, I don't think I am looking at the same thing as you guys are
[13:44] <jcastro> do you do them over mail or ... ?
[13:48] <kamstrup> jcastro: sweet, and the code is pretty clean too
[13:48] <kamstrup> nice work from stefano indeed
[13:48] <jcastro> yeah
[13:48] <jcastro> he's awesome, hope he comes to UDS
[13:48] <jcastro> kamstrup: didrocks around today? I'd like to sort out this quickly template business
[13:48] <jcastro> so people can just crank these out
[14:56] <jcastro> kamstrup: can I do ~.local/share/unity/places?
[14:57] <jcastro> the directory doesn't seem to exist
[14:57] <kamstrup> jcastro: no, afaik...
[14:57] <kamstrup> jcastro: also, places rely on dbus activation, and I don't think you can install .service files under ~/...
[14:58] <kamstrup> although I could be wrong
[14:58] <jcastro> ok
[14:58] <jcastro> do the .places need to be in the root dir, I was thinking of just bzr branching right in there so I can update the AU place on the spot and restart unity
[15:08] <kamstrup> jcastro: the trick is getting the .py files updated on the right path and everything - the .place file rarely needs to change
[15:09] <costales> hi!
[15:09] <costales> Anybody can help me with an icon?
[15:20] <stefano-palazzo> kamstrup, jc told me about your thoughts on a data-centric view for lenses. If you need any feedback on what sort of hooks an app like mine would need, please feel free to ping me - I have some ideas
[15:21] <stefano-palazzo> I think the idea is absolutely brilliant by the way :)
[15:31] <jcastro> DBO: with no neil, can you do some reviews for me?
[15:31] <DBO> yes
[15:31] <DBO> point me at them
[15:31] <jcastro> https://code.launchpad.net/~slash-m3/unity/fix-bug-730623/+merge/53189
[15:31] <jcastro> https://code.launchpad.net/~thjaeger/unity/raise-maximized/+merge/52644
[15:31] <jcastro> ok the bot is just dumb, ignore that
[15:33] <jcastro> https://code.launchpad.net/~slash-m3/unity/fix-bug-728598/+merge/53881
[15:33] <jcastro> DBO: last one ^
[15:36] <DBO> jcastro, all done!
[15:36] <DBO> need to check CA status
[15:38] <jcastro> those are all new afaict
[15:38] <DBO> the last guy signed at least
[15:38] <DBO> his was the only merge I approved
[15:38] <jcastro> DBO: any others you think?
[15:39] <jcastro> https://code.launchpad.net/unity/+activereviews
[15:49] <fagan> whats the px of the icons in unity someone asked a question on launchpad about it and I cant remember off the top of my head
[16:02] <robtaylor> loicm: http://paste.ubuntu.com/582139/
[16:06] <loicm> robtaylor: backtrace of Compiz while the bug you work on is happening?
[16:06] <robtaylor> loicm: yup!
[16:07] <loicm> robtaylor: is it deadlocked or the mainloop of that thread keeps dispatching sources?
[16:08] <robtaylor> loicm: just checking now. It could just be that it's spending it's time waiting for vsync =)
[16:08] <loicm> robtaylor: yes, that's what I'm worndering too
[16:10] <coz_>  hey all
[16:11] <robtaylor> loicm: naa, not a hang
[16:11] <robtaylor> loicm: at least i've got it repoducable now =)
[16:13] <robtaylor> loicm: guess i need to just start adding shed loads of debug statments =)
[16:14] <loicm> robtaylor: yeah ...
[16:15] <loicm> robtaylor: does compiz work reliably when the bug's triggered?
[16:15] <robtaylor> loicm: compiz runs, but it's not drawing any decoration, shadows, etc
[16:16] <robtaylor> loicm: i suspect on startup, the session manager's deciding to SIGKILL it, but i'll need more logging to show that
[16:17] <loicm> robtaylor: and does it composite your windows correctly?
[16:18] <robtaylor> loicm: well, depends what you mean 'correctly' =), i can click on windows and they come to the front
[16:18] <robtaylor> but that's about it
[16:19] <loicm> loicm: maybe compiz fails to init the GL plugins for some reasons
[16:19] <loicm> just a guess
[16:20] <robtaylor> loicm: well, the opengl plugin is initialising corectly - that backtrace wouldn't happen if it hadn't
[16:21] <loicm> was just thinking about that too :)
[16:23] <loicm> robtaylor: does it happen only when the session manager launches it?
[16:23] <loicm> robtaylor: does it work when you manually launch it?
[16:28] <kvalo> kenvandine: hi. here's the new release we talked yesterday: https://launchpad.net/indicator-network/trunk/0.3.8
[16:28] <kvalo> haha :)
[16:33] <robtaylor> loicm: happens on manual launch too
[16:38] <loicm> robtaylor: ok, and what about other OpenGL applications?
[16:40] <robtaylor> loicm: glxgears runs fine
[16:41] <robtaylor> loicm: the opengl plugin won't initialise if there's too much wrong with the gl stack
[16:45] <robtaylor> loicm: could you pastebin me the plugins you see being loaded on your system?
[16:46] <kenvandine> kvalo, thx
[16:46] <robtaylor> hmm, i think i'll have to pick up an intel box over the weekend for comparison sakes =)
[16:53] <loicm> robtaylor: http://paste.ubuntu.com/582160/
[16:56] <robtaylor> loicm: thanks
[17:08] <loicm> robtaylor: what's your GPU?
[17:14] <robtaylor> loicm: Radeon 2100
[17:20] <robtaylor> loicm: think i might add some debugging help to gnome-session
[17:20] <robtaylor> loicm: something to log app startup
[17:29] <DBO> RAOF, can you try latest unity to see if it fixes your crash?
[17:29] <DBO> RAOF, I mean latest nux, trunk
[17:29] <DBO> i just pushed the fix
[17:43] <elricL> Hello, am just looking at the launcher.cpp in unity,can anyone tell me, how the launcher differentiates between left and right clicks?
[18:02] <dbarth__> elricL: hi, DBO or jaytaoko can tell you
[18:09] <elricL> well, I thought I could ask now coz,this was supposed to be a Q & A session time. Maybe I am at the wrong channel.
[18:09] <DBO> elricL, right place
[18:10] <DBO> I am here
[18:10] <DBO> MouseDownLogic is the event you are looking for
[18:10] <DBO> jcastro, Q&A, we have a bite
[18:10] <jcastro> elricL: hey alright!
[18:10] <jcastro> elricL: ask away dude!
[18:10] <DBO> elricL, you'll see in that method we do a nux::GetEventButton (button_flags) when passing on to the LauncherIcon
[18:10] <DBO> that is what tells us what button it is
[18:11] <DBO> we probably could do a better job filtering the button presses right now since it is mostly unchecked
[18:12] <elricL> I got the method a long time ago.Any good to know I can ask more questions. :)
[18:12] <elricL> edit *Any way good*
[18:13] <DBO> elricL, super, if you ping me directly I will answer your questions
[18:13] <jcastro> elricL: what are you working on? Or are you just digging around?
[18:13] <elricL> DBO , Thats great.
[18:13] <elricL> jcastro, I thought I could fix one bitesize bug, since I have the weekend free.
[18:14] <jcastro> awesome!
[18:14] <jcastro> I like how you roll
[18:14] <njpatel> Is this the usual Q&A time?
[18:14]  * njpatel is sitting here too if people have dash questions
[18:15] <DBO> njpatel, yeah, i dont know actually now that DST is in effect
[18:15] <DBO> is question time this hour or last hour?
[18:15] <DBO> DST... the time of year where americans set their clocks back 50 years
[18:16] <kklimonda> njpatel: is it possible to change the launcher icon dynamically?
[18:17] <kklimonda> actually, that's probably not dash.. dammit
[18:17] <jcastro> kklimonda: make him work anyway!
[18:17] <njpatel> kklimonda, not for natty, no
[18:17] <njpatel> kklimonda, it's okay, I can answer other stuff too :)
[18:18] <njpatel> kklimonda, both DBO and I had that function in our respective dock projects and someone will abuse it. Which is fine outside of the window manager, but inside your just going to cause issues
[18:18] <njpatel> kklimonda, instead of that we added the "emblem" support in libunity
[18:18] <njpatel> ubuntuone use that
[18:18] <elricL> jcastro, I am actually interested in https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/688830
[18:18] <njpatel> (adds a emblem/badge to the launcher"
[18:19] <kklimonda> I was thinking of creating a nice looking cpu/temp launcher so I can see how close to burning my laptop is ;)
[18:19] <njpatel> kklimonda, and see, this is we can't do it :D
[18:20] <njpatel> kklimonda, we can show progress, maybe you could abuse that?
[18:20] <kklimonda> njpatel: it'd work too (to som extent) but it won't look as shiney :)
[18:20] <robtaylor> loicm: well, i'm at least pretty certain it is bug 729597 now. it's randomly started working now. hah.
[18:20] <kklimonda> I could use counter to display temp, and progress bar to show the cpu frequency
[18:21] <njpatel> kklimonda, true :)
[18:21] <njpatel> kklimonda, that would work
[18:21] <njpatel> actually, that woudl be nice
[18:22] <kklimonda> njpatel: will there be a way to create a generic text on launcher? for example to add a °C after temperature?
[18:22] <jcastro> DBO: any pointers for elricL for bug 68830?
[18:22] <kklimonda> also, changing colors would be nice (but I guess I could add a fire emblem when things get too hot)
[18:22] <jcastro> DBO: that's bug 688830, whoops
[18:22] <DBO> jcastro, elricL, hold up, window manager acting up
[18:22] <kenvandine> kklimonda, speaking of laptop temp... when you said that i was booting mine because it had just overheated building gstreamer
[18:22] <elricL> Np.
[18:22] <kenvandine> :)
[18:22] <jcastro> I bet it's invisible box again
[18:23] <njpatel> kklimonda, yes, internally the launcher just renders a string, but I think the libunity API takes a uint. unfortunately kamstrup isn't here otherwise we could have bugged him a bit :)
[18:23] <stefano-palazzo_> Question, after I click an item on my Lens, I get the loading-cursor on the Launcher for a few seconds. Am I doing something wrong or should I report a bug?
[18:23] <kklimonda> njpatel: generic text would make it possible to present dl/up speed in Transmission in a meaningful way.
[18:23] <njpatel> kklimonda, right, exactly
[18:24] <jporsini> kklimonda, natty version of psensor display the temperature in the launcher entry:) https://launchpad.net/~jfi/+archive/psensor-unstable
[18:24] <loicm> robtaylor: ok good
[18:24] <jporsini> kklimonda, but that's currently a quick hack, it just displays the temperature of the first sensor which may not be relevant
[18:25] <kklimonda> jporsini: choosing the right sensor is not that easy :)
[18:25] <jporsini> kklimonda, well, not so hard in fact
[18:25] <robtaylor> loicm: well, not really good. means it's a heisenbug
[18:25] <kklimonda> jporsini: ah, psensor is the application I was going to write. thanks for the link :)
[18:26] <jporsini> kklimonda, you can display the average temperature, or the temperature chosen by the user...
[18:26] <kklimonda> jporsini: does it work without lm-sensors?
[18:26] <jporsini> kklimonda, lm-sensors is used to get the MB and CPU temperature
[18:27] <kklimonda> (or rather does lm-sensors work with Thinkpads? I do remember that it didn't in the past)
[18:27] <jporsini> I have a thinkpad w500 and I also tested on several thinkpad
[18:27] <robtaylor> loicm: though i think there's a clue here. It seems to be something to do with how compiz is choosing which modules to load - or maybe one module getting stuck
[18:28] <jporsini> kklimonda, it works, but it is quite obvious to understand who is who....
[18:28] <loicm> robtaylor: ah, quite frustrating then
[18:28] <kklimonda> kenvandine: heh, I've started setting lower frequency for longer builds to avoid overheating.. but that still sucks
[18:28] <robtaylor> loicm: yeah, could be a bugger to tie down.
[18:29] <kenvandine> kklimonda, it rarely happens to me
[18:29] <kklimonda> jporsini: I'll give it a try later then.. :)
[18:29] <kenvandine> only when i build packages that go crazy on parallel builds
[18:29] <kenvandine> like gtk
[18:29] <loicm> robtaylor: could you please pastebin you "glxinfo -l" output?
[18:29] <kenvandine> and i guess gstreamer
[18:29] <loicm> robtaylor: just to see, who knows
[18:29] <robtaylor> loicm: sure
[18:30] <robtaylor> one mo
[18:31] <jporsini> kklimonda, anyway, I am not very sure that using the unity counter is appropriate. I believe that the application-indicator is more useful (the icons change to notify hot temperature)
[18:32] <jporsini> kklimonda, the important info is "is my computer too hot", knowing the temperature is not so useful (and it is wrong with most of the hardware)
[18:32] <robtaylor> http://paste.ubuntu.com/582200/
[18:32] <robtaylor> loicm: http://paste.ubuntu.com/582200/
[18:33] <kklimonda> jporsini: I can tell it's too hot just by touching it, what I want to know is if it's just too hot or hot enough to break my damn g84 nvidia ;)
[18:33] <stefano-palazzo_> Question again, where are the signatures for Dee.SharedModel's  and Unity.PlaceEntryInfo's methods and their signal handlers?
[18:34] <robtaylor> loicm: i've got to head off now. feeling frustrated! Lets hope I can get this sorted soon...
[18:34] <jporsini> kklimonda, "too hot" depends on the maximum of the temperature that you have set on the configuration. So, you can put the one you want:)
[18:35] <loicm> robtaylor: ok, see you then
[18:36] <stefano-palazzo_> Please ignore my second question, I found them /o  sorry
[19:09] <elricL> Ubuntu not in gsoc this year?!
[19:26] <fta> since the last unity update, my side panel turns crazy when a window is too close to it (i use to have xchat aligned with the panel)
[19:26] <fta> also, as i use follow focus mode, it keeps stealing my focus
[19:26] <fta> and the cpu sky rockets
[20:42] <jcastro> fta: he just timed out, I'll snag him when he returns
[20:44]  * vish lols  @ http://launchpadlibrarian.net/66681148/out-3.ogv
[20:51] <fta> jcastro, bug 737814
[20:52] <fta> i guess this time i got a crash file because of the new apport allowing SIGABRT again
[20:54] <jcastro> vish: dumb question.
[20:54] <jcastro> if he's reported a bug with apport
[20:54] <jcastro> why is it New when filed?
[20:54] <jcastro> you'd think it'd at least be confirmed?
[20:55] <vish>  "confirmed" is when a second person confirms it..
[20:55] <jcastro> right
[20:55] <jcastro> but no one looks at New
[20:55] <vish> yea..
[20:56] <jcastro> i'm going to try something
[20:57] <vish> btw, mpt is filing the bugs directly in the upstream task.. (if that was what you were referring to..)
[20:57] <vish> not using apport..
[20:57] <jcastro> I just assign it directly to DBO
[20:57] <jcastro> let's see what happens
[21:58] <AndreaAzzarone> hi, what about this? http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=441608.0;attach=105388
[22:04] <spikeb> Couldn't tell ya, since you have to be logged in to see it
[22:05] <AndreaAzzarone> Sorry! Lookt here:http://img823.imageshack.us/i/keepinlauncher.png/
[22:05] <AndreaAzzarone> * http://img823.imageshack.us/i/keepinlauncher.png/
[22:05] <spikeb> looks good.
[22:06] <AndreaAzzarone> it only works when we set OnlyMounted in Devices Settings ;)
[22:07] <AndreaAzzarone> It complies with the design?
[23:11] <rbnswartz> DBO are you free for a moment?