[00:03] <jussi> jessica_: are you certain you went to 10.04?
[00:03] <jussi> !version
[00:04] <jessica_> 10.04.2 LTS
[00:06] <jessica_> It's probably the pre-release packages that are preventing it.  I don't suppose there is a way to downgrade?
[00:08] <areichman> not that I've seen
[00:15] <yask> hi
[00:21] <yask> can somebody help me why my internet work slow in ubuntu while using morzilla
[00:21] <yask> ???
[00:22] <areichman> yask: it's not slow in other browsers?
[00:22] <yask> no
[00:22] <yask> only in morzilla firefox
[00:22] <yask> in chrome and konquere it works fine
[00:28] <_Sophia> OHAIIIIIIIIIIII
[00:28] <_Sophia> o_O
[00:29] <areichman> hello _Sophia
[00:29] <rimvis> how can i register my nick?
[00:29] <rimvis> becouse in one of the channel i need nick...
[00:30] <areichman> rimvis: you register a nick with NickServ
[00:30] <areichman> http://www.afterdawn.com/tech_support/answer.cfm/can_i_register_my_nick_on_an_irc_network
[00:30] <areichman> that link will show you how, I don't know how to type it in here without it actually happenin
[00:30] <areichman> happening
[00:35] <rimvis> ok i am register and identify but i still get errr
[00:35] <rimvis> ] Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[00:37] <areichman> rimvis: what channel?
[00:37] <_Sophia> hi areichman :D
[00:38] <rimvis> in freebsd channel
[00:38] <areichman> or, what network? I think that NickServ is on a per network basis
[00:38] <areichman> oh, that sounds like it's still on freenode, no?
[00:41] <rimvis> ok i spend the problem thanks :)
[00:49] <Macer> well. the flash seems to work great
[00:49] <Macer> 64bit flash too :)
[02:16] <dustin> anyone around for a Tor installation question if so could ya pm me or something please.
[02:17] <james147> !ask | dustin
[02:17] <dustin> i just did ask the question? what you mean
[02:18] <james147> ok then:
[02:18] <james147> !details
[02:19] <dustin> "ive downloaded tor now afew times but im not sure how to find it: and it says it needs to be compiled and i dont know how to do that, and i got a seperate client that needs tor to run "TORK" and thats about it.
[02:20] <james147> dustin: where did you download it from?
[02:21] <dustin> from this program tork it claims that it needs it so i did dl it and it claimed it was suppose to dl and install so i done that and it claimed to have compiled it for me but i still dont see the program anywhere. ill look again thou
[02:23] <james147> dustin: try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tor
[02:24] <dustin> okay lemme read on it a min then 1sec i still need to find the place where the file is to compile it thats proveing quite a chore i mean i found afew hints with the find command but thats it
[02:25] <james147> dustin: most things that auto compile other things tend to do it in /tmp
[02:32] <dustin> okay found it in the folder james, i keep getting a error thou when i try to sudo to it to install like that page u gave me and it gives me this error whats it mean : E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:32] <james147> dustin: make sure you dont ahve another packagemanager open/runnin
[02:33] <dustin> hmm i had one open awhile ago lemme try again.
[02:38] <dustin> thank worked james its installing those things it said from that link and i got the java one just for the heck of it. im glad you folks can help with stuff like this. i very well might stick it out with linux :)
[02:43] <dustin> now i got all those files required to do this.
[03:19] <Scunizi> On boot after the desktop comes up the system asks for a password again.. would that be for network manager?
[03:21] <Nata> may be is gtk program
[03:22] <Nata> check your startup program at system settings/startup program and see
[03:27] <james147> Scunizi: its most likly the network manager if you have wifi
[03:28] <james147> Scunizi: you can setup the network manager to store the passphrases in an unencrypted file which will stop it asking
[03:29] <Scunizi> james147: how do you do that?
[03:29] <james147> Scunizi: manage connection > other
[03:30] <Scunizi> I'll look.. thanks
[03:32] <Scunizi> Ok.. made the switch.. another topic.. I installed cairo dock.. on boot 2 instances load and I have to kill one of them.. I've not been able to find the "start on boot" switch to turn one off. (If that's even the issue)
[03:34] <Scunizi> Unless it's loading the non-opengl version and the opengl version at the same time.. it ends up I have to shift+alt+F12 to re-activate opengl and get rid of the black box around everything cairo related.
[03:35] <ader10> When I click an image in Konqueror, a preview inside the conqueror window pops up displaying the image. How can I get this action with the keyboard?
[03:36] <ader10> When I press enter, the image opens in gwenview (which I don't want right now)
[03:44] <c2tarun> which network manager does kubuntu 10.10 have? What are my other options for n/w managers?
[03:45] <Do_Sanga> ok i was here other day
[03:45] <Do_Sanga> and taled to peace about wifi
[03:46] <Scunizi> c2tarun: it uses network-manager .. another option would be wicd
[03:46] <Do_Sanga> that dont work
[03:46] <Do_Sanga> i tried it
[03:46] <james147> c2tarun: kubuntu uses network-manager :p with kdes widget front end, there is also the gnome front end (nm-applet) or you can use wicd (will remove network-manager)
[03:47] <c2tarun> james147, Scunizi, there is a problem in kubuntu the network-manager is not detecting DSL connections. I think its problem with n/w manager because DSL connection is just wrking fine here. Should I change my n/w manager?
[03:51] <c2tarun> s/here/in ubuntu/
[03:54] <c2tarun> I want to change my n/w manager in kubuntu, the problem is there is no internet there in kubuntu, I also ubuntu installed on my system, how can I install the new n/w manager in kubuntu? please reply
[03:55] <c2tarun> james147, ping what were you saying about nm-applet?
[03:56] <james147> its the gnome front end to network manager (in the networkmanager-gnome package i think)
[03:57] <c2tarun> james147, the biggest problem is I cannot access internet from kubuntu, :( how can I install anything there?
[04:11] <Do_Sanga> everything works fine on mine just wifi
[05:19] <dustin> can anyone explain to me how to compile from gnome i.e desktop enviro?
[05:59] <ralnaemi> I installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu. When my computer starts up, the KDE login screen appears, and when I login I'm only presented with Konsole. Any ideas what's wrong?
[06:28] <doleyb> ralnaemi: did you pick a failsafe session in the kdm menu?
[07:11] <robbiethe1st> Would anyone mind taking a look at this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10569583
[07:20] <m5> !ru
[08:58] <ct529> hi guys, I cannot play asf files on kubuntu 10.10 .... I googled and searched but did not find a solution
[08:58] <ct529> can anyone help me?
[08:59] <Tm_T> !mp3
[08:59] <Tm_T> ct529: does those help?
[09:00] <ct529> Tm_T: why mp3?
[09:00] <Tm_T> ct529: it's irrelevant detail, see those links
[09:00] <ct529> Tm_T: ok! :-)
[09:06] <ct529> Tm_T: nope, no solution
[09:07] <Daskreech> _Sophia: up?
[09:12] <joao2fs> bom dia
[09:12] <php5engineer> ct529, have you tried to type "asf" in KpackageKit? Have you tried to search google for "ubuntu asf"?
[09:14] <ct529> php5engineer: that is obvious, since I said in my question that "I googled and searched" :-)
[09:14] <php5engineer> After a little research I have found "Aviplay AVDI/AVS/WMF Player" and xmm2-plugin-asf
[09:23] <ct529> php5engineer: it does not work
[09:24] <ct529> php5engineer: at least on my installation
[09:24] <ct529> php5engineer: if you want to try here is the stream http://www.radioitalia.it/radio/streaming.php
[09:27] <ana_> hi
[09:28] <ana_> I trying to install Pixum software in lubuntu but I have an error
[09:28] <Daskreech> What's the error?
[09:28] <ana_> one moment please
[09:28] <ana_> I translate into english xD
[09:29] <ana_> Failed to execute child process "/ home / ana / Pixum / Pixum" (No such file or directory)
[09:29] <php5engineer> ct529: I have click on the Play with Flash Player and it worked for me. If you want to play namely asf stream, try to find a link to stream, not a web page
[09:31] <ana_> sorry, that error appears when try to lauch application
[09:31] <ana_> the install runs without errors
[09:35] <ana_> any solution?
[09:48] <php5engineer> ana: I have see two solutions: use general ubuntu version or try to find soft simular to Pixum
[09:50] <ct529> php5engineer: I do not understand .... where did you click?
[09:51] <ct529> php5engineer: there is no flahs player streaming ....
[09:51] <ct529> php5engineer: well, there is a flash commercial on the left, but that is not the stream
[09:58] <php5engineer> Possibly, it is not a stream, but I can hear the radio using this link. If you want to play this radio with audio player, I give you a hint: audio players do not understand links to a web pages. You need to specify a link directly to a stream. Try to add in xmm player link to mms://89.202.214.2/66360a73-2b6d-483e-ae7e-29eee545d37c or mms://89.202.214.2/7b4612b1-d02e-49d7-a8b3-c1f0f33efcd5 stream
[10:05] <ct529> php5engineer: oh I see what you mean .... I will try that way
[10:31] <ana_> no problem
[10:31] <ana_> I solved my problem
[10:31] <ana_> bb and thanks
[10:48] <Fripon> Hi ! I modified keys in /etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc but changes are ignored, did I miss something?
[10:53] <isoko> hello, i'm having trouble with chromium and flash, i'm getting "The following plugin crashed" i've tried installing/reinstalling adode-flashplugin or flashplugin-installer or the plugin at the adobe website but it still crashes
[10:56] <new> hi.. need help restoring kde 4.4.5 plasma
[11:00] <new> anyone can help?
[11:21] <Peace-> new: ?
[11:21] <Peace-> new: what's the problem
[11:26] <new> peace i acidentally quited plasma taskbar, the one who has kde launcher and programs that are minimized in.. its just nigthmare.. impossible to do fix it
[11:51] <Peace-> new_:
[11:51] <Peace-> new_: ALT F2 plasma-desktop
[11:53] <new_> can i restore it somehow by terminal to load kubuntu taskbar or whatever its called to a previous state( didnt restarted pc after a mess)
[12:16] <mbnoimi> where can I find man pages directory?
[14:04] <sponzor> hi. i have problem with resoloution. i cant set resolution beyond 1024. i haave ati card x1600
[14:08] <noaXess> hey
[14:09] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[14:09] <noaXess> is there a tool to set a specific window eg. to a resolution of 1280x800? i need that to only record that window with recordmydesktop.. and the end resolution should be 1280x800
[14:13] <noaXess> hey BluesKaj
[14:14] <BluesKaj> noaXess, hi....interesting question, but what about the resolution of the playback device?
[14:15] <noaXess> BluesKaj: to big ;) fullhd.. and i want just record a window, not all the desktop.. so i need to set the windo to the correct resolution and select this window to record
[14:16] <noaXess> and the prob is also, i have two monitor.. and if a just record.. i record all the monitors ;)..
[14:17] <BluesKaj> 'noaXess, , my point is that the playback device will change the res somewhat depending on the aspect ratio and the device's native resolution
[14:17] <noaXess> BluesKaj: but in recordmydesktop i can select just a window. ..and the the en res. will be like that windo
[14:17] <noaXess> w
[14:20] <BluesKaj> noaXess, are you sure ?
[14:20] <noaXess> yesss..
[14:24] <BluesKaj> noaXess, , maybe if you fool around with the windows setting by rioght clicking on the titlebar then, advanced ,/special windows settings or application settings you%C01what you want
[14:25] <BluesKaj> oops , you can set what you want
[14:25]  * BluesKaj checks the KB batteries , again
[14:31] <noaXess> BluesKaj: i got it
[14:32] <noaXess> take gimp, create a image 1280x800 and place the window inside ;)  HA
[14:33] <BluesKaj> ahh, never thought of gimp , noaXess , seldom use it , i use picasa for photos etc
[14:39] <c2tarun> is there any pluggin to download youtube videos?
[14:40] <BluesKaj> c2tarun, youtubedl  I think
[14:41] <c2tarun> BluesKaj: youtubedl still works?
[14:41] <c2tarun> BluesKaj: its not in repo
[14:41] <BluesKaj> afaik it does
[14:42] <BluesKaj> c2tarun, sorry youtube-dl
[14:44] <BluesKaj> there's also clive for other video as well
[15:15] <quant> hi, dragon player seg faults when I try to open a wmv video (kde 4.6.1, kubuntu 10), anyone help, please?
[15:15] <quant> kubuntu 10.10*
[15:17] <Daskreech> quant: Probably phonon.
[15:17] <Daskreech> Try mplayer>?
[15:17] <quant> Daskreech: I'll go try that now
[15:18] <quant> Daskreech: how about vlc?
[15:18] <Daskreech> sure
[15:18] <Daskreech> that should go as well
[15:21] <quant> Daskreech: ok, works well, but I would like to getdragon working in the future as well... I'll wait for updates
[15:21] <c2tarun> quant: try bangarang as well, its small and good player :)
[15:21] <quant> c2tarun: vlc it is for now ;-)
[15:22] <quant> ok, my other question - flash gets torn apart while I scroll the brower window (adobe flash + proprietary ati driver) - anyone, please?
[15:23] <kps_foo> quant: that happens with me too, I still haven't found a solution
[15:23] <Daskreech> quant: I'm pretty sure it's just the backend choking on something in the wmv. The VLC backend for  Phonon will probably make it work fine
[15:24] <kps_foo> quant: I too have the propietary ATI driver
[15:25] <quant> Daskreech: any ideas about that flash thing, please? you seem to know everything that I ask
[15:25] <c2tarun> kps_foo: I have ati graphic card as well, but not facing any such problem
[15:26] <kps_foo> c2tarun: I dunno, facing this problem in Chromium as well as Firefox
[15:26] <Daskreech> I'd open the Flash settings and turn off hardware acceleration
[15:26] <Daskreech> That's if I ran flash
[15:26] <kps_foo> Daskreech: ok, I will try that
[15:27] <c2tarun> kps_foo: I have two ubuntu(64 bit) and kubuntu(32 bit) and both are working fine (I use firefox in both)
[15:27] <kps_foo> c2tarun: ubuntu works fine for me too
[15:27] <Daskreech> ATI using fglrx ?
[15:27] <kps_foo> Daskreech: yeah
[15:27] <Daskreech> that was @c2tarun
[15:28] <c2tarun> yup
[15:28] <c2tarun> Daskreech: ^^
[15:29] <quant> Daskreech: trying to get to settings... sec
[15:29] <Daskreech> kk
[15:29] <quant> Daskreech: for some funny reason "settings" is greyed out
[15:30] <kps_foo> Daskreech: the settings option is grayed out when I right click on a youtube video :(
[15:33] <kps_foo> I found a solution, try disabling the desktop effects, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10023107
[15:33] <kps_foo> that solves the problem for me
[15:33] <quant> kps_foo: yes, that's an option, but one that I'm not willing to choose :)
[15:34] <kps_foo> quant: yeah, you are right, without desktop effects life is too boring...
[15:34] <quant> Daskreech: still greyed out... stupid as it is
[15:35] <quant> funny how the flash ads etc. don't break, only the flash videos
[15:35] <quant> ok, tried another flash site (not youtube.com) and that doesn't break
[15:38] <quant> direct rendering and vsync... would that possibly have anything to do with this?
[15:38] <Daskreech> quant, kps_foo: You can temporarily disable Desktop effects with alt+shift+F12
[15:39] <Daskreech> If you are playing a game or something else that global use of OpenGL either breaks or hampers it you can turn it off for a few minutes and turn it back out without opening any settings
[15:40] <quant> Daskreech: yes, thanks... that'll suffice for games, but I'm hoping to find a better solution for youtube (using it too often)
[15:40] <Daskreech> Switch it HTML5? :)
[15:40] <quant> Daskreech: had that idea, yeah... I'll try to find that option on youtube
[15:45] <quant> Daskreech: thanks again for all the help
[15:46] <Daskreech> Sure :)
[15:46] <kps_foo> Daskreech: yeah thanks
[15:46] <[mors]> do you know huge mem leaks in kmix ?
[15:46] <[mors]> ps shows "3796 user       20   0 1753m 1.5g  19m S   29 18.6 221:58.01 kmix"
[15:46] <[mors]> 1.7g of used memory ! using 99% cpu whenever I change volume
[15:49] <Daskreech> [mors]: Known bug should be fixed partially in kde 4.6.2 and hopefully squashed in KDE 4.7
[15:50] <[mors]> hum, how can I backport ?
[15:50] <[mors]> built binaries somewhere ?
[15:53] <Daskreech> What KDE do you have installed?
[15:53] <quant> [mors]: I think the latest KDE is 4.6.1, but check it out, you can get 4.6.1 installed through an official kubuntu ppa
[15:53] <[mors]> 4.5.1 :/
[15:54] <[mors]> hum, there's a ppa, right !
[15:54] <Daskreech> [mors]: You can look in the topic for links
[15:54] <quant> [mors]: ppa can be found on the official kubuntu site (click on kde 4.6 banner)
[15:54] <[mors]> thank you !
[15:54] <Daskreech> You are welkome! :)
[15:55] <[mors]> btw, another issue. I still cannot connect to a dynamic wep wireless network while I can with gnome network manager
[15:55] <[mors]> you kow anything about it ?
[15:55] <Daskreech> Use the Gnome Network manager then
[15:55] <[mors]> I am using it yes :p but kde's should work too
[15:55] <[mors]> kde's has all the options but fails to connect
[15:56] <Daskreech> There are a few (rapidly diminishing) things that Gnome's Network manager can do since it's quite a few years older than KDE's which is about a year old
[15:57] <Daskreech> If you need those things then feel free to use what works but please file a bug. Should be on feature parity (hopefully KDE will have more functionality) very soon
[15:57] <[mors]> and what about easily connecting to my 3g network using my phone as modem ?
[15:58] <Daskreech> Agreed, GNOME being able to do more than KDE is a perversion of Justice and perception :-D
[15:58] <elijah> How can I show my users home directory desktop  on my visual desktop?
[15:58] <[mors]> gnome's nm gives a simple 2 step wizard: country + operator
[15:59] <quant> elijah: add the desktop folder widget and go to options and select your home folder
[16:00] <Daskreech> [mors]: http://lamarque-lvs.blogspot.com/ might be interesting for you
[16:03] <elijah> quant: very nice, thanks!
[16:04] <quant> elijah: np
[16:11] <_Sophia> hi Daskreech :D
[16:11] <Daskreech> Hello _Sophia :) How are you?
[16:11] <_Sophia> not bad, i must say
[16:11] <_Sophia> but i still have to fix my headphones and install Ruby stuff today >.<
[16:12] <Daskreech> _Sophia: I thought you did ruby stuff waaaaaaaay long ago
[16:12] <Daskreech> !info rails
[16:12] <_Sophia> lol
[16:13] <_Sophia> apparently the install process to make everything smooth is way more complicated
[16:13] <Daskreech> what counts as smooth?
[16:13] <_Sophia> just installing by packages results in compatibility issues
[16:13] <_Sophia> well, i don't think i can directly install 1.9.2 via package
[16:13] <_Sophia> the newest one in the repository is 1.9.1
[16:13] <Daskreech> ?
[16:13] <_Sophia> and i need 1.9.2 to use Rails 3
[16:13] <Daskreech> !info ruby
[16:13] <_Sophia> o_O
[16:13] <_Sophia> right
[16:13] <_Sophia> if i install that
[16:14] <_Sophia> it installs Ruby 1.8.6, not 1.9.2 like i use/need
[16:14] <Daskreech> ah
[16:16] <Daskreech> _Sophia: try sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pratikmsinha/ruby192+bindings
[16:17] <_Sophia> o_o
[16:17] <_Sophia> where did you find that?
[16:17] <Daskreech> http://www.humbug.in/2010/launchpad-ppa-for-ruby-1-9-2-and-some-ruby-bindings/
[16:25] <_Sophia> hum
[16:25] <_Sophia> i was going to follow some vid i haven't seen yet :P
[16:26] <_Sophia> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmWYZVUln4E
[16:28] <_Sophia> of course, that is for ubuntu
[16:28] <_Sophia> but they're pretty close >.>
[16:30] <_Sophia> Daskreech, it keeps failing Q_Q
[16:31] <_Sophia> says i'm not root :l
[16:31] <Daskreech> _Sophia: you put sudo at the start?
[16:31] <_Sophia> yes ofc
[16:32] <Daskreech> is it a one line error?
[16:32] <_Sophia> i understand that using 'sudo' means admin privileges or w.e o_O
[16:33] <[mors]> quant: can't find the ppa link.... :(
[16:34] <Daskreech> _Sophia: sudo = Super User Do
[16:34] <_Sophia> lol
[16:34] <quant> [mors]: hold on
[16:34] <Daskreech> _Sophia: if it is a one line error can you paste it here
[16:35] <Daskreech> otherwise pastebin the whole output
[16:35] <quant> [mors]: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.6
[16:36] <_Sophia> was two lines
[16:36] <_Sophia> but i'm not pastebinning it ;d
[16:36] <Daskreech> Ok
[16:36] <_Sophia> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?
[16:36] <Daskreech> that will work as well
[16:36] <Daskreech> _Sophia: Do you have kpackagekit open?
[16:36] <_Sophia> no, sec
[16:36] <Daskreech> no it's ok :)
[16:36] <_Sophia> k
[16:36] <Daskreech>  if it was open it would cause that problem
[16:37] <Daskreech> You don't have another install going on at the same time?
[16:37] <_Sophia> no o_O
[16:37] <_Sophia> i have another konsole open
[16:38] <_Sophia> to alsamixer
[16:38] <_Sophia> is that the issue?
[16:38] <Daskreech> hmmm
[16:38] <FloodBotK1> _Sophia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:38] <Daskreech> no it's only installs that would block it like that
[16:38] <[mors]> quant: thank you !
[16:38] <quant> [mors]: np
[16:39] <_Sophia> FloodBotK1: Please don't interrupt; use http://www.youtube.com to occupy yourself; don't use interruptions as a plea for attention.
[16:39] <_Sophia> >_>
[16:39] <Daskreech> I'd log out and back in to see if it's something you did and forgot
[16:40] <_Sophia> X_X!
[16:56] <Daskreech> _Sophia: Easier than me trying to figgure out which processes you hve running
[16:56] <_Sophia> okay
[16:56] <_Sophia> will restart in a little bit
[16:56] <_Sophia> installing some torrent software so i can download this Supertramp album in FLAC =)
[16:58] <_Sophia> i forget
[16:58] <_Sophia> what is the keyboard shortcut for konsole? o_O
[17:19] <DarthFrog> /away
[17:29] <dan2> hey guys, I'm getting GL based artifacts every so often esp. on natty
[17:30] <dan2> they show up all over the screen
[17:34] <Pranav_rcmas> I made the mistake ofI made the mistake of installing the new Qt 4.7.1 SDK beta over an existing installation of Qt 4.7.0, in Ubuntu. I want to remove all traces of 4.7.0. I'd like to know how I can do this. Assistance please? installing the new Qt 4.7.1 SDK beta over an existing installation of Qt 4.7.0, in Ubuntu. I want to remove all traces of 4.7.0. I'd like to know how I can do this. Assistance please?
[17:35] <Pranav_rcmas> Sorry about that :S
[17:35] <Pranav_rcmas> I made the mistake of installing the new Qt 4.7.1 SDK beta over an existing installation of Qt 4.7.0, in Ubuntu. I want to remove all traces of 4.7.0. I'd like to know how I can do this. Assistance please?
[17:41] <BluesKaj> Pranav_rcmas, open your package manager an type Qt in the search then highlight each entry that shows as "installed", i'm sure you'll the right one to remove ,. I prefer the Mon package manager for this kind of package search.
[17:41] <BluesKaj> find
[17:41] <BluesKaj> Muon package manager , Pranav_rcmas
[17:42] <Pranav_rcmas> BluesKaj, thanks, will try that
[18:03] <Guest20254> hi
[18:03] <Guest20254> ive been trapped in windows hell since 95 and finally escaped lucky me
[18:03] <Guest20254> anyone here
[18:05] <james147> Guest20254: quite afew people ^^
[18:05] <james147> Guest20254: most only respond when questions are asked hoever
[18:13] <Guest20254> no one talking
[18:13] <Guest20254> im noob to linux world and love it
[18:13] <Guest20254> m$ sucks
[18:13] <Guest20254> im a programmer so i can help here
[18:14] <james147> Guest20254: This is a support channel, not a discussion channel, its tends to say quite unless someone ahs a questions
[18:14] <Guest20254> i c
[18:14] <Guest20254> any talkie rooms
[18:14] <genii-around> !ot
[18:14] <Guest20254> ive been at paltalk voice and can appreciate text rooms
[18:14] <james147> Guest20254: #kubuntu-offtopic and #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:14] <Guest20254> thanks i will check iut out
[18:15] <Guest20254> it wont go
[18:30] <[mors]> hi again
[18:30] <[mors]> why are "additional addresses" dropdown in network manager's vpn config dialog grayed out ?
[18:30] <[mors]> or rather, the list where I would input addresses ?
[18:31] <[mors]> and why can't I add routes ?
[18:32] <[mors]> join #kde
[18:32] <[mors]> whopps .sorry
[18:32] <skfin> :)
[19:17] <arbitrary> I'm not sure how to determine if my ethernet port is borked. I ask here because the port belongs to a Kubuntu system (9.10)
[19:27] <genii-around> arbitrary: What is it doing or not doing, etc that makes you think it has some issue?
[19:30] <arbitrary> Well, this is a rescued computer, some parts of it nonfunctional. I know the destination works, because I've hooked that up to other things previously. However, connecting the other computer (a WinXP box, unfortunately), and Kubuntu results in no acknowledgement from either of them.
[19:32] <genii-around> arbitrary: Has the box had adapters pulled out or put in ? The system keeps a list and old ones no longer existing still have name eth0 for instance reserved, new ones get bumped up in number.
[19:33] <arbitrary> genii-around: Nothing physical has been changed. The only known damage to the box is a bashed firewire port.
[19:35] <genii-around> arbitrary: Does command of: lspci| grep Ether                produce a line of output with the adapter name?
[19:36] <arbitrary> Claims existence of an ethernet controller
[19:39] <genii-around> arbitrary: OK. So then: sudo lshw -C network                  and then look for the line which starts: configuration               and if a driver is loaded for it, there will be in that line someplace the name of it
[19:41] <genii-around> If nothing like "driver=somename" in configuration line then it may be something like a problemmatic one needing special driver massaging like some Broadcoms, etc
[19:41] <arbitrary> autonegoti=on broadcast=yes driver=8139too driverversion=0.9.28 - etc.
[19:47] <[mors]> something really weird happened
[19:47] <[mors]> had flash 10.2 installed (it has hw accel for video) and kde 4.6.1, using nvidia drivers 260. Went to youtube saw a video and closed the browser tab midway. Flash froze that last frame in that position of the computer screen and whenever I move something black over that region that last frame overlays the black parts !?!
[19:47] <shane4ubuntu> ?
[19:48] <shane4ubuntu> [mors]: that is a weird crash
[19:48] <shane4ubuntu> try in the konsole: top  and see what is hung up?
[19:48] <shane4ubuntu> probably npviewer.bin?  or something similar
[19:48] <genii-around> arbitrary: So it looks like it should be able to work on a physical level. Hardware is seen and driver is loaded. Does: ifconfig eth0     show a line beginning with: inet addr:     which shows an IP address after it?
[19:49] <[mors]> not a crash
[19:49] <genii-around> [mors]: Yes, I've seen that a few times too but not able to repeat it consistently
[19:49] <arbitrary> No. This may be because I'm not attempting to connect to the net. It does claim a HWaddr
[19:49] <[mors]> no process was alive with flash loaded. Even after logging off the frame persisted until I restarted X
[19:49] <[mors]> genii-around: workaround for me, reinstall flash 10.0
[19:50]  * shane4ubuntu is very contented with Chrome, and no flash issues.
[19:50] <[mors]> 100% repro rate here
[19:50] <[mors]> happens with opera and chrome
[19:50] <arbitrary> genii-around: Want me to pastebin the exact output?
[19:51] <shane4ubuntu> file bug report if you can reproduce it.
[19:51] <genii-around> arbitrary: Is the machine hooked to something like a dhcp server which will give it a number?
[19:51] <genii-around> arbitrary: No pastebin needed yet :)
[19:51] <shane4ubuntu> [mors]: that is really odd, I have never had an issue with chrome and flash, there was an update yesterday to chrome.
[19:51] <shane4ubuntu> [mors]: chrome or chromium?
[19:51] <[mors]> I just updated everything and it happened
[19:51] <arbitrary> genii-around: It's not connected to anything but the other PC, and this over the ethernet connection which is causing trouble.
[19:51] <[mors]> chromium and opera
[19:51] <[mors]> so I doubt it's a browser issue
[19:52] <genii-around> arbitrary: Well, to see any kind of traffic though, it would need to have an IP address. so you can set one manually in the /etc/network/interfaces file that is on same range as the other box if you want to exchange traffic over a crossover cable or so
[19:52] <[mors]> (how do I kill all kate output to stdout? it's too annoyiing)
[19:52] <shane4ubuntu> right, probably not, but Chromium is the testing bed for Chrome, I switched to chrome, shouldn't be an issue with either though, because somehow Google implements flash inside it's browser setup or something
[19:53] <shane4ubuntu> brb
[19:53] <arbitrary> genii-around: Pardon my ignorance, but how do I go about that?
[19:54] <genii-around> arbitrary: For instance, to open the file with admin rights: so in konsole: kdesudo kate /etc/network/interfaces      Then to add some lines specifying what it's IP, netmask, and gateway are for instance
[19:55] <genii-around> arbitrary: You can see examples if you do: man interfaces
[19:56] <genii-around> arbitrary: After the file is edited and saved, you start up the interface with it's new settings by: sudo ifup eth0
[19:56] <genii-around> Work needs me 5-10 minutes but I'll respond on returning
[19:57] <arbitrary> Okay, looks like I need to find the range of the other machine as well, though.
[20:00] <genii-around> arbitrary: Yes. If it's a windows box, you can can open a dos prompt and issue: ipconfig  which will tell you
[20:00] <arbitrary> Why oh why does it try to do it full screen o_o
[20:01] <genii-around> arbitrary: If the windows box didn't find a dhcp server, it's ip likely starts with 169.something.
[20:01] <arbitrary> Ethernet Adapter from Local Area Connection:
[20:01] <arbitrary> Media State: Disconnected
[20:02] <arbitrary> That was helpful, windows.
[20:07] <genii-around> arbitrary: Somewhere in network setting within windows you can set it. I'm not sure where anymore because I am rarely in that OS anymore :) But the general idea is something like maybe 192.168.1.100 for it , use it's own ip as gateway,netmask of 255.255.255.0   then on the linux box ip of 192.168.1.101,  own ip as gateway, same mask 255.255.255.0
[20:08] <genii-around> after that you should see at least traffic indicators, even if they can't yet agree on what or how to be talking to each other
[20:11] <arbitrary> genii-around: Okay, so I've given those settings to WinXP, but I don't know quite how to instruct it on Kubuntu.
[20:12] <genii-around> arbitrary: To reiterate from earlier: kdesudo kate /etc/network/interfaces   to open the networking file
[20:12] <BluesKaj> genii-around, arbitrary , listing the IPs in /etc/hosts.allow seems to help preventing dropped and lost connections , add portmap then underneat list the IPs on lan or wan like so, ALL:192.168.X.X
[20:13] <BluesKaj> underneat=underneath
[20:14] <arbitrary> So, let's see. . .
[20:14] <BluesKaj> the router IP, and gateway IPs are the most important from the advice I received
[20:14] <arbitrary> iface eth0 inet static
[20:14] <genii-around> arbitrary: Then put in there, each on it's own line:  auto eth0            then:iface eth0 inet static  then: address 192.168.1.101    then:netmask 255.255.255.0  then: gateway 192.168.1.101
[20:14] <genii-around> arbitrary: Then save the file. Then issue:  sudo ifup eth0
[20:15] <genii-around> arbitrary: Then you should be able to ping the win box
[20:15] <arbitrary> Shouldn't the gateway be 192.168.1.1?
[20:16] <genii-around> arbitrary: No, the gateway should be it's own ip. since they are wired directly to each other and traffic is not being routed
[20:16] <arbitrary> Ah. So, windows should have the same address and gateway as well?
[20:16] <james> i need some help with authenticating
[20:17] <arbitrary> E.g. windows is address/gateway 192.168.1.100
[20:17] <Guest53172> i need help with to install or remove softwre yo uneed to authenticate
[20:17] <Guest53172> i enter the password but it wont go
[20:17] <Guest53172> obiously password or something else is wrong
[20:17] <Guest53172> im trying to update
[20:17] <arbitrary> Okay, issue.
[20:18] <arbitrary> I did sudo ifup eth0, received: grep: /etc/resolv.conf: No such file or directory
[20:19] <Guest53172> an application is attemptint to preform an action that requries privlides
[20:19] <Guest53172> how do i authenticate update
[20:20] <gomiboy> Guest53172: you enter a password to login or you use autologin?
[20:20] <genii-around> arbitrary: Sorry on lag, work. Yes, same idea in windows, different ip but same range
[20:20] <Guest53172> this is a probelm
[20:20] <Guest53172> yes gomi
[20:21] <Guest53172>  i enter a password to log in
[20:21] <arbitrary> genii-around: As mentioned, I get a grep: /etc/resolv.conf: no such file or directory as I attempt sudo ifup eth0
[20:21] <Guest53172> is it seaparate passworde?
[20:21] <gomiboy> Guest53172: and the same pass doesn't work?!? It gives some errors?
[20:22] <genii-around> arbitrary: You can do: kdesudo kate resolv.conf           and put in there the ip of your machine
[20:22] <arbitrary> IP of the Kubuntu machine?
[20:22] <genii-around> arbitrary:  kdesudo kate /etc/resolv.conf       rather
[20:22] <genii-around> arbitrary: Yup
[20:23] <genii-around> arbitrary: At any rate, I think we've established your adapter works :)
[20:23] <arbitrary> So I just put 192.168.1.101 in the file or what?
[20:24] <arbitrary> Yes. Victory over step one, at least.
[20:24] <genii-around> arbitrary: You put: nameserver 192.168.1.101
[20:24] <arbitrary> O_o
[20:25] <arbitrary> Now I get "already configured"
[20:25] <gomiboy> Everytime i login
[20:26] <genii-around> arbitrary: Yes, that means you already did the sudo ifup eth0 before :)
[20:26] <arbitrary> Okay, pinging doesn't work, but then I don't think destination machine is setup yet.
[20:27] <genii-around> arbitrary: If you do now the: ifconfig eth0               you should maybe see something under the RX and TX lines
[20:27] <arbitrary> Well, destination host is unreachable, but I do have an inet addr at least.
[20:28] <arbitrary> Think this machine needs restarted :|
[20:28] <arbitrary> Back shortly.
[20:29]  * genii-around makes more coffee
[20:35] <ouzoun> hi
[20:37] <arbitrary> Okay, I think things are okay on the Kubuntu side, but Windows is proving an issue. Investigating. . .
[20:38] <Daskreech> ouzoun: hi
[20:39] <sergej_supo> hi
[20:40] <Daskreech> sergej_supo: Hi
[20:45] <arbitrary> genii-around: We've got issues.
[20:46] <genii-around> arbitrary: Can you elaborate?
[20:47] <arbitrary> genii-around: The ethernet port immediately lights up and lists out information if plugged in to a separate computer. The problem is somewhere on Kubuntu's side. This is a generic install of Kubuntu 9.10 - it works fine with a laptop Ubuntu 10.10
[20:48] <arbitrary> The laptop, by the way, is running a LiveCD, so it's not in the setup.
[20:50] <sergej_supo> genii-around: for me the information sounds confusing... but well, your case. ;)
[20:51] <arbitrary2> genii-around: I missed any response you made due to network hiccup
[20:54] <Daskreech> arbitrary: Didn't mis anything
[20:55] <arbitrary> Daskreech: Danke. That being said, this presents a serious issue.
[20:55] <Daskreech> What is the problem?
[20:56] <arbitrary> Somewhere in this machine: Kubuntu's settings or drivers, or the ethernet card, or the ethernet port, a connection is not being made.
[20:56] <genii-around> arbitrary: Work needed me agin. Lemme catch up on backscroll
[20:56] <arbitrary> Kubuntu seems to think it all works from cursory examination.
[20:57] <genii-around> arbitrary: So the ethernet port lights up on the win box?
[21:01] <arbitrary2> Yes, when plugged into Ubumachine, not when plugged into Kubumachine.
[21:03] <genii-around> arbitrary: When the win box is connected to the kubuntu and result of: ifconfig shows it has it's IP, can you do from kubuntu: ping 192.168.1.100 successfully? ( if the win box has that ip )
[21:03] <arbitrary> Get large, fast streams of Destination Host Unreachable
[21:05] <genii-around> arbitrary: Hm. Are you using an actual crossover cable or a straight through?
[21:06] <arbitrary> Not sure. Cable that comes with an Xbox 360, as it's the only ethernet cable I have lying around. There's nothing between them, if that's what you're asking.
[21:09] <genii-around> arbitrary: If you put the two ends of the cable side by side and look at the order of the wires in the plug. If a straight through, they are in same order. If crossover, they are in slightly different order
[21:10] <arbitrary> Looks to be a straight through.
[21:11] <genii-around> arbitrary: The reason I ask is.. some older hubs and ethernet adapters require a crossover cable specifically when you hook two boxes directly to each other, they can't autodetect the cable type and adjust
[21:11] <arbitrary> Well, the problem machine advertises itself as Vista Capable.
[21:12] <shane4ubuntu> calibre is broken?
[21:13] <shane4ubuntu> at least calibre gui, I have used the cli, just tried to start the app, and it didn't, cli gives errors, odd.
[21:14] <gomiboy> arbitrary: afaik both network cards need to support autosensing to work with a straight cable
[21:16] <arbitrary> gomiboy: Do you think it realistically likely that a 3-4yrsold-tops ethernet card doesn't support it?
[21:16] <genii-around> gomiboy: Yes, that is also my thought
[21:18] <gomiboy> arbitrary: my last pc purchase was 6 years ago, and it doesn't support it, i don't know :P
[21:20] <gomiboy> arbitrary: that said if the ethernet doesn't light up, that's your problem
[21:20] <arbitrary> Christ all bitchnickels.
[21:21] <genii-around> arbitrary: Language, please :) We try to keep it family friendly in here
[21:21] <genii-around> arbitrary: Have you tried hooking the two linux boxes together?
[21:22] <joeuser2ooo> tried to figure out what this slang means... :)
[21:22] <arbitrary> No, would that change anything?
[21:22]  * gomiboy too
[21:23] <genii-around> arbitrary: Well, it makes it easier to have them communicate to each other when they are both using the same kind of OS
[21:23] <arbitrary> Huh. They appear to be trying to connect.
[21:24] <genii-around> Cool.
[21:24] <arbitrary> Kubuntu is stuck on "obtaining network address"
[21:24] <arbitrary> Probably because the Ubuntu box doesn't have a static IP setup
[21:25] <genii-around> arbitrary: You mean the ubuntu box is trying for an address? I thought the kubuntu one is setup now for static, so it shouldn't try to get any ip
[21:26] <arbitrary> That's what kubuntu was saying. the ubuntu box didn't really react, though it acknowledges a connection is possible.
[21:26] <genii-around> Interesting.
[21:27] <arbitrary> Can you give me the location for the network interfaces file so I can run through a static IP for the Ubuntu box? I lost the info when I restarted.
[21:27] <genii-around> arbitrary: So on the kubuntu box, ifconfig eth0              should show some two-way traffic in the last line
[21:27] <arbitrary> Packets were sent, at least.
[21:28] <genii-around> arbitrary: kdesudo kate /etc/network/interfaces         to edit it
[21:28] <arbitrary> Not so much on the ubuntu box.
[21:29] <genii-around> gomiboy: I think the win and kubuntu boxes have stupid adapters and require a crossover to talk to each other, the ubuntu box has one which can autodetect and so it can talk to both of the old ones
[21:30] <arbitrary> I would not be surprised.
[21:31] <arbitrary> Let's see, setup command after adjusting /interfaces was?
[21:31] <genii-around> arbitrary: sudo eth0 up
[21:31] <genii-around> sorry no
[21:31] <genii-around> arbitrary: sudo ifup eth0
[21:31] <genii-around> Tired, been a long day :)
[21:32] <arbitrary> Grah. What goes into the resolv.conf again?
[21:32] <genii-around> arbitrary: nameserver local-ip-address-goes-here
[21:32] <gomiboy> with 3 boxes i'd use a switch :P
[21:33] <arbitrary> Meh, have no interest in the Ubuntu box. It's dying, just with better hardware.
[21:35] <arbitrary> Okay, they definitely know the other is there, and the ip stuff is setup as suggested, , ,
[21:36] <arbitrary> Not sure how to actually retrieve info from each other.
[21:36] <gomiboy> arbitrary: it's ping time! :)
[21:37] <genii-around> arbitrary: Yes, can they ping each other's ip alright?
[21:37] <arbitrary> No. Different claim than when attempting to ping the windows box.
[21:37] <arbitrary> Both of them return: connect: network is unreachable
[21:37] <joeuser2ooo> gomiboy: nope, it's time to read network books/stuff. ;)
[21:38] <genii-around> "network" is unreachable?
[21:38] <arbitrary> Yep.
[21:38] <genii-around> arbitrary: Did you use some ip number that ended in 1 or 255 for one of the boxes?
[21:38] <arbitrary> Kubuntu is 192.168.1.101 - Ubuntu is 192.168.1.200
[21:40] <arbitrary> Fffuuu
[21:40] <arbitrary> Completely separate matter.
[21:40] <arbitrary> Need to add like 60GB to the partition I'm writing to save a dying one from. Of course you have to save even the data that didn't tie to anything. . .
[21:42] <Daskreech> arbitrary: Are they on the same device?
[21:42] <arbitrary> No.
[21:42] <joeuser2ooo> arbitrary: my english is bad... but you sound a bit insane to me. ;-)
[21:43] <arbitrary> joeuser2ooo: Doing far, far, far too many things at once. Going into a manic state from the stress.
[21:43] <Daskreech> arbitrary: open partitionmanager and resize
[21:43] <arbitrary> GParted, I assume, for Ubuntu.
[21:43] <arbitrary> Of course, I have to eat an existing (but thankfully empty) partition.
[21:43] <Daskreech> arbitrary: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/Keep_Calm_and_Carry_On_Poster.svg
[21:43] <genii-around> Daskreech: He has 2 boxes connected nic-to-nic directly
[21:44] <Daskreech> arbitrary: ah right if it's empty why dn't you just dump data there?
[21:44] <arbitrary> Daskreech: Because I will need two partitions on the one device - one to contain the recovered data, the other to extract the useful stuff to.
[21:45] <Daskreech> If you say so :)
[21:45] <joeuser2ooo> arbitrary: do you really have to do this? rethink!
[21:46] <arbitrary> It's like this. Partition 1 is a genuine storage partition that happens to have nothing to store at the moment. Partition 2 is a recovered data partition, whose primary purpose will be to host a dead operating system and read the information from it. Extract the useful information from the recovery partition, then consume partition 2 into partition 1.
[21:46] <Daskreech> If you say so :)
[21:46] <arbitrary> GParted is taking forever to load because it's trying to learn more about a nearly-dead hard disk -.-
[21:47]  * gomiboy proposes to open pc case, take hd and mount it on the other machine... networking is so overrated...
[21:47] <arbitrary> The other machines are irrelevant.
[21:48] <arbitrary> The hard disk is in the one machine, and it is writing to an external hard disk.
[21:48] <arbitrary> Plus, I think cracking open my laptop may void the warranty, and I really want to get myself a brand new hard disk without the effort.
[21:49] <arbitrary> And none of this has anything to do with why I"m actually here. Back to the matter of the Kubuntu machine's connections.
[21:50] <genii-around> arbitrary: What is the result of:  route | grep default                   on both boxes?
[21:50] <genii-around> ( ideally each says it's own ip is the default route )
[21:51] <arbitrary> Both of them resolve without printing anything.
[21:51] <gomiboy> arbitrary: if the ethernet lights don't comes up, it's not an kubuntu matter. Are they up?
[21:52] <arbitrary> Ethernet lights are up on the kubuntu machine
[21:52] <gomiboy> And on the other side?
[21:53] <arbitrary> Port doesn't have lights.
[21:53] <gomiboy> doh!
[21:53] <joeuser2ooo> ah?
[21:55] <arbitrary> :\
[21:56] <nyad> hi. I want to change my theme for logging in. I downloaded a whole lot of themes by clicking get new themes, but none of them show up
[21:56] <nyad> what's the issue?
[21:57] <arbitrary> Interesting. Go to 1GB of errata from 10K errors on disk. The next 2K errors give me 26GB of errata
[21:58] <arbitrary> Anyway, is there something with the command that would cause them to not print information>
[21:58] <arbitrary> route | grep default - that is
[21:58] <genii-around> arbitrary: I would suggest something like: sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.100 eth0           on box with that ip, same command with the other using it's ip
[21:59] <genii-around> arbitrary: It's entirely possible no default route to anyplace, but unusual
[21:59] <arbitrary> SIOCADDRT: no such process
[21:59] <genii-around> arbitrary: Ah. So the ethernet adapter on that box is not brought up yet
[22:00] <arbitrary> Both claim such.
[22:01] <genii-around> arbitrary: Did you do the: sudo ifup eth0                ?
[22:02] <arbitrary> sudo ifup eth0 - interface eth0 already configured - sudo route add . . . - SIOCADDRT: No such process
[22:02] <genii-around> hm
[22:05] <genii-around> arbitrary: Perhaps ditch then the eth0 part at the end of the route command
[22:05] <arbitrary> No difference.
[22:06]  * genii-around goes to make more coffee
[22:08] <arbitrary> For the love of. . . GParted is still scanning -.-
[22:10] <arbitrary> Must depart a few minutes. Will return.
[22:22] <arbitrary> Back.
[22:23] <arbitrary> Interestingly, turning on verbose mode adds exactly no output.
[22:27] <Daskreech> having arbitrary and genii-around with the same colour nick doesn't help this conversation Konversation
[22:27] <arbitrary> Daskreech: I would love to have a client that actually assigns separate colours and can handle large scales. :|
[22:28] <genii-around> arbitrary: I gotta leave, have to be somewhere
[22:28] <arbitrary> genii-around: Thanks for everything, though.
[22:28] <Daskreech> arbitrary: wouldn't make a difference You eyes can quickly pick up a few hundred shades of colour
[22:28] <genii-around> arbitrary: OK. I'll be back in on Monday if you're still stuck
[22:29] <Daskreech> places like here or #ubuntu on release day would stress the brain's capacity to quickly distinguish in any case
[22:29] <Daskreech> genii-around: Takes that much time to brew enough coffee?
[22:29] <arbitrary> Daskreech: You make a fair point.
[22:29] <arbitrary> Still actually want the capacity, though.
[22:31] <Daskreech> :)
[22:50] <_Sophia> hiiii
[22:58] <_Sophia> Daskreech ? lol
[23:01] <Daskreech> _Sophia: hi
[23:01] <_Sophia> hi
[23:01] <_Sophia> finally restarted comp >_<!
[23:02] <_Sophia> was socializing with people o_O
[23:03] <Daskreech> _Sophia: :)
[23:03] <Daskreech> tried the command again ?
[23:03] <_Sophia> lol reading too
[23:03] <_Sophia> okay, going to try it ;d
[23:44] <dbc254> my nook doesn't show up? Shouldn't it show up like any other usb device?