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psusiswitching back and forth between packages that leave quilt patches applied in bzr and ones that don't is driving me up the fscking wall!  for the love of root, will someone fix the auto package importer to deapply patches before committing?02:46
pooliepsusi, you're pretty sure that would be better across the board?02:49
pooliethere was a thread about this recently02:49
pooliei can see the inconsistency would suck02:50
psusipoolie, yes!  reviewing commits that add a quilt patch, AND modify the files the quilt patch touches is a royal pain in the ass02:51
psusibut yea, inconsistency is worse than that02:51
psusinot to mention a needless bloating of the archive02:51
* ScottK still has trouble with Source V3 because starting with the patches already applied just feels wrong.02:54
psusiindeed... they need to be deapplied in bzr02:57
psusiworking on packages where they are not applied is so nice... backporting to older releases is cake02:58
aromanwhat in Ubuntu's livecd causes a "Desktop" folder to be created in the livecd desktop user's home folder?03:08
IanLiuI'm trying to fix bitesize bugs from unity, but I'm in doubt on how to replace the current unity with my compiled one. Any help?03:25
ScottKIanLiu: You might have more luck in #ubuntu-desktop or #ayatana.  I'm not sure which would be better.03:26
IanLiuScottK: Thanks, I will try asking there03:27
ohsixugh, random right clicks coming from touchpad, and mouse realllly slow even with the sensitivity set all the way up in natty03:38
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tkamppeterOdyX, we are after FF, I think activating a new sync after FF is not possible.07:33
micahgtkamppeter, depending on the change, we can still sync, what's the question?07:36
tkamppeterI have uploaded foomatic-db to Ubuntu, a new upstream source which adds a bug fix. This package is the same in Ubuntu and Debian. We want to have a sync here, but as we are after FF I thought that the sync is not possible, because arbitrary Debian uploads cannot go into Ubuntu.07:39
tkamppetermicahg, does a sync not mean that every Debian upload goes automatically into Ubuntu?07:40
slangasekno, syncs can be processed on packages individually07:40
slangasekthis is the purpose of the 'requestsync' tool, for instance07:40
pittiGood morning07:42
micahgtkamppeter, after DIF, syncs must be requested individually07:42
dholbachgood morning08:14
abhinav-pitti, Good morning. I was wondering if we should call upgrade only for the package(s) for which the user was trying to report a bug/crash or simply run upgrade for all packages ?09:04
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pittidpm: all maverick langpacks are built and in the archive, btw, so they can be tested now09:41
dpmpitti, ok, cool, thanks, I'll send the announcement and prepare the wiki page. What's the version number?09:42
pittidpm: 1:10.10+2011031509:42
pitti kees, jdstrand: releaseing maverick kernel to -updates/-security (linux linux-backports-modules-2.6.35 linux-meta linux-ports-meta)09:48
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brendandhas anyone noticed that bootchart has stopped working in recent natty images?10:12
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brendandit doesn't generate any data to /var/logs/bootchart10:12
brendandwhen i install it i can see initrd is updated10:12
tjaaltonsomething wrong on the amd64 build chroot? nvidia fails to build, although the earlier upload today did build10:40
OdyXWhat chance do I have to see usb-modeswitch{,-data} to get sync'ed from Debian ? IMHO it's worth having (less complication).10:41
jhuntbdrung, elmo, cjwatson: could you try out the latest gdm.conf on bug 436936 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/436936/+attachment/1915134/+files/gdm.conf) when you get a chance?10:46
ubottuUbuntu bug 436936 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu Karmic) "gdm upstart job checks /proc/cmdline for single user mode, won't start on post-boot runlevel change" [Medium,Triaged]10:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 436936 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu Karmic) "gdm upstart job checks /proc/cmdline for single user mode, won't start on post-boot runlevel change" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43693610:46
jhuntbdrung, elmo, cjwatson: the "start on" is getting a bit "hairy". We have a cunning plan to simplify using abstract jobs for the next cycle.10:47
bdrungjhunt: i will try it once restored everything after an harddisk upgrade10:47
jhuntbdrung: thx!10:48
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jelmerpitti: hi11:53
pittihey jelmer, how are you?11:53
jelmerpitti: I'm well, thanks :)11:53
jelmerpitti: Vila and I are looking at a FFe for a bzr microrelease for natty11:54
jelmerpitti: do we need one, even if bzr is part of MRE ?11:54
pittijelmer: should be fine11:54
pittijelmer: if they meet the MRE standards, it's mostly bug fixes anyway, is it?11:54
jelmerpitti: yes11:54
pittibug fixes don't require a FFE11:55
ogra_OptiPNG 0.6.4: Advanced PNG optimizer.11:55
ogra_Copyright (C) 2001-2010 Cosmin Truta.11:55
ogra_what calls that during a package build ?11:55
ogra_it breaks unity-2d and i somehow need to disable it11:56
jelmerpitti: thanks11:56
pittiogra_: that's pkgbinarnymangler11:56
pittiogra_: you can export NO_PNG_PKG_MANGLE=1 in debian/rules11:56
pittiogra_: but out of interest, how does it break?11:57
brendandcjwatson - do you know that bootchart is broken in recent natty images? it seems since yesterday11:57
ogra_pitti, but that will suppress other optimizations, no ?11:57
ogra_pitti, Qt seems to not be able to handle 8bit images for stacking them onto alpha blended ones :)11:57
pittiogra_: no, that one just disables png optimizations11:57
pittiogra_: NO_PKG_MANGLE disables everything11:57
ogra_ah, k11:58
ogra_we could convert them during load but that would slow down the code11:58
janimoogra_, is this a known Qt issue, maybe with bug filed?11:58
ogra_janimo, no bug afailk11:59
cjwatsonbrendand: is that bug 723663, or something different?12:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 723663 in pybootchartgui (Ubuntu) "ZeroDivisionError in bootchart when parsing data from a HP Proliant DL360 G5" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72366312:04
brendandcjwatson - no, that's just one machine generating bad data12:05
brendandcjwatson - this is *everything* generating *no data*12:05
brendandcjwatson - tried on vbox too12:05
cjwatsonok, is there a bug?12:05
brendandcjwatson - just now12:06
brendandcjwatson - i ran ubuntu-bug bootchart. hope that gives decent logs12:06
cjwatsonbootchart itself hasn't been changed since lucid12:06
brendandcjwatson - i believe you12:06
brendandcjwatson - wonder what's affected it then12:06
cjwatsonnot asserting your bug doesn't exist, just that it was likely caused by something else12:06
brendandcjwatson - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bootchart/+bug/73748712:07
ubottuUbuntu bug 737487 in bootchart (Ubuntu) "Bootchart data not generated" [Undecided,Confirmed]12:07
brendandcjwatson - if there's anything further needed i'll be glad to gather it for you12:07
cjwatsonthanks, bumped to high12:07
cjwatsonjhunt: ^- do you have time to have a look at that?12:07
brendandcjwatson, jhunt - do you reckon maybe the process which bootchart looks for to stop has changed somehow?12:29
cjwatsonbrendand: it's multiarch fallout, we're discussing it12:36
brendandcjwatson - it certainly looks like the problem is that it hasn't stopped12:43
brendandcjwatson - on my Maverick system, the /var/run/bootchart directory is not there (because it's supposed to get cleaned up)12:43
brendandcjwatson - but when the bootchart.tgz doesn't exist, the /var/run/bootchart directory does12:43
brendandcjwatson - in this case12:43
cjwatsonbrendand: jhunt has found the root cause, we're working on a fix12:45
cjwatsonas I say it's multiarch fallout - libc moved12:45
brendandcjwatson - thanks12:47
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jdstrandkirkland: hi! you probably saw this, but qemu-kvm ftbfs on i386, which make qemu-kvm on amd64 uninstallable (cause of qemu-common)13:23
jdstrandhallyn: ^13:23
kirklandjdstrand: hmm, i have not seen that13:23
jdstrandkirkland: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu-kvm/0.14.0+noroms-0ubuntu3/+buildjob/232564613:23
ubottuError: Launchpad bug 0 not found13:23
kirklandjdstrand: hallyn is out today, let me take a look ...13:23
kirklandjdstrand: hmm, ugly13:24
kirklandjdstrand: i wonder if that's multi-arch breakage?13:24
kirklandgcc: Internal error: Killed (program cc1)13:25
jdstrandyeah, I don't know :\13:25
kirklandjdstrand: it built locally here before i uploaded13:25
kirklandcjwatson: could you have a quick look at this build breakage for qemu-kvm and tell me if you think it's multi-arch related?  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu-kvm/0.14.0+noroms-0ubuntu3/+buildjob/232564613:26
ubottuError: Launchpad bug 0 not found13:26
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kirklandcjwatson: strange gcc error with little-to-no debug information13:26
abhinav-dholbach, nice article, very informative :-)13:29
dholbachthanks abhinav-13:29
dholbachif you have any more feedback, let me know (or comment on the article)13:29
abhinav-yup, sure, I will :)13:29
cjwatsonkirkland: doesn't seem likely13:30
cjwatson"Killed" sounds like "somebody sent me SIGKILL"13:30
cjwatsonperhaps OOM?13:30
kirklandcjwatson: yeah, that does sound like it13:37
mterryIf a friendly archive admin wanted to push the button on bug 736807, I'd be grateful13:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 736807 in nlpsolver (Ubuntu) "Sync nlpsolver 0.9~beta1-5 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73680713:49
abhinav-dholbach, I am doing a session on UDD in my college during an open source unconference. I was just going to repeat whatever I learnt during developer week, but the ubuntu-packaging-guide will be an excellent source to get more information :)13:58
dholbachabhinav-, sweet - I'm glad you like it!13:58
dholbachlet me know how the session goes!13:58
abhinav-sure. I will :)13:58
ogra_cjwatson, adding debian-installer/framebuffer=false to the headles images cmdline didnt change anything14:00
ogra_oh, wait, its gone after first boot :P so once d-i starts it has a framebuffer again ... silly me14:02
cjwatsonogra_: I mean preseeding it in the debconf database used by oem-config14:07
ogra_cdmline wouldnt suffice ?14:08
cjwatsondunno offhand14:08
ogra_its hard to distinguish if i'm on headless or not, but the initial cmdline is set during build based on $PROJECT14:09
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ogra_so setting it in advance is the easiest way, else i need detection code14:09
cjwatsonthis is just for experimental purposes14:09
cjwatsonI want to know whether that makes a difference to narrow down the problem14:10
ScottKOdyX: It depends a lot on what's in the update.  If it's pure bugfix it's no problem at all.14:10
ogra_hmm, k14:10
OdyXScottK: it's not… But usb-modeswitc has rarely been broken by upstream…14:11
OdyXScottK: anyway, your call people. :-)14:11
ScottKOdyX: You recommend we update?14:11
OdyXScottK: I do, as it gets rid of the -packed flavour (see -data changelog), but it is in unstable for two days only...14:12
OdyXthe -packed flavour finally was transitional, so It'd be nice to not have it in Natty.14:13
ScottKOdyX: We need someone to make a Feature Freeze exception so the release team can evaluate it.  Unfortunately my schedule is packed right now.14:13
OdyXScottK: mine too.14:13
ScottKcyphermox: ^^^ would you be interested in taking care of the FFe?14:15
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ScottKdholbach: You uploaded a fix for Bug #612885 that seems to both make appindicator support optional and add python-appindicator to depends.  As commented in the bug, I think adding the dependency now is wrong.14:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 612885 in gtk-recordmydesktop "Startup of gtk-recordmydesktop fails with "TrayPopupMenu instance has no attribute 'popupmenu_continueitem'" error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61288514:16
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cyphermoxScottK, reading the backlog now14:31
cyphermoxOdyX, so there's a new release of usb-modeswitch-data?14:32
OdyXcyphermox: yes, 20110227-214:33
OdyXcyphermox: released 3 weeks ago, uploaded yesterday to unstable.14:33
cyphermoxOdyX, ok, I'll file the FFe bug in a minute14:34
cyphermoxScottK, thanks for the notice :)14:34
OdyXcyphermox: nice. Note you need usb-modeswitch 1.1.7 too14:35
cyphermoxOdyX, ok. both non-bugfix right?14:35
OdyXcyphermox: it's debatable. :-)14:35
cyphermoxAFAIK if there isn't already an SRU special case for usb-modeswitch I think we might want one... it's not necessarily uncommon to see people with new usb 3g devices on a "final" release14:36
cyphermoxOdyX, usb-modeswitch is one thing that doesn't worry me too much. Plus if it breaks you're around, so we'll just blame it on you :)14:37
OdyXcyphermox: fine for me.14:40
ogra_cjwatson, cmdline didnt make a difference ... i'll try an explicit debconf-communicate call from the inird setup script to set it directly14:44
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dholbachScottK, I guess that depends on which experience we want users to have14:49
dholbachScottK, making it "optional" is something that would make sense upstream in any case14:50
mdzskaet, where can I find a complete list of natty FFE requests and their status?14:50
ScottKdholbach: For non-Ubuntu flavors that depends drags in the entire appindicator stack.14:50
ScottKdholbach: If it were only about Ubuntu, I'd agree.14:51
ScottKmdz: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release has them for all releases.14:52
skaetmdz, have been using launchpad, and tracking through new status.   https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/+bugs?orderby=datecreated&field.status%3Alist=NEW14:52
kirklandhmm, any gcc/toolchain experts around, in doko's absence?14:53
ograpitti, heh, the tag isnt enough for armel bugs ?14:53
dholbachScottK, alright, you have a point - I'll make it a Recommends14:54
kirklandi'm trying to debug a build failure of qemu-kvm i386 on the buildd's14:54
ScottKdholbach: Suggests please.  Recommends still get installed by default.  It's non-trivial for normal users to avoid them.14:54
dholbachScottK, my thinking was that for a gtk app that still makes sense14:54
dholbachseb128, what do you think? moving python-appindicator from depends to recommends?14:55
ubottuUbuntu bug 612885 in gtk-recordmydesktop "Startup of gtk-recordmydesktop fails with "TrayPopupMenu instance has no attribute 'popupmenu_continueitem'" error" [Undecided,New]14:55
ScottKdholbach: People should be able to use an application in their DE of choice independent of what toolkit it's writtenwith.14:55
ScottKSo I think "It's GTK" is not relevant.14:55
seb128dholbach, recommends seems right to me14:56
mdzskaet, thanks!14:56
ScottKseb128: That's going to pull in a lot of dependencies for non Ubuntu-desktop users.14:57
seb128ScottK, how so? libappindicator has been splitted out this cycle it's a small lib14:57
ScottKseb128: Does it work with xfce or lxde?14:58
seb128ScottK, the indicators do fallbacking to gtkstatusicon when there is no indicator loader from day one14:58
ScottK(I think it would work correctly with Kubuntu since we seed libindicate-qt)14:58
ScottKI guess it's OK then.  I'd forgotten it was a lot smaller now.14:59
dholbachok, great - I'll make it recommends and upload in a bit14:59
seb128dholbach, ^ recommends14:59
seb128dholbach, thanks14:59
dholbachthanks ScottK for bringing it up14:59
kirklandmdeslaur: jdstrand: the qemu-kvm build break has to be multiarch, or something else in the tool chain;  the diff since the last upload (and successful build) is trivial and unrelated: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/66546963/qemu-kvm_0.14.0%2Bnoroms-0ubuntu2_0.14.0%2Bnoroms-0ubuntu3.diff.gz15:05
jdstrandkirkland: did you retry the build?15:09
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abhinav-pitti, what does  ui_shutdown do ? I am calling it inside the exception handler while running the run_package_upgrade method .15:11
kirklandjdstrand: just pressed retry ~10 minutes ago15:11
kirklandjdstrand: 13 minutes in;  last failure was at 17 minutes15:12
* jdstrand crosses fingers15:12
jdstrandthough if it is the toolchain, an up to date chroot should reproduce it locally15:13
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kirklandjdstrand: mdeslaur: kees: qemu-kvm i386 rebuild succeeded15:17
* kirkland has no explanation15:17
jdstrandprobably a problem with the buildd15:18
mdeslaurkirkland: cool15:19
pittiabhinav-: see its docstring; it's not actually used anywhere in the gtk/kde/cli implementations, so I guess calls to it are fairly inconsistent15:22
pittiabhinav-: but you shouldn't call it when you call the package update15:22
abhinav-pitti, so if an error occurs I should simply return after displaying an error message ?15:23
pittiabhinav-: yes; you should only call ui_shutdown() if you do an exit()15:24
abhinav-ok. I think I got it15:25
micahgScottK, >re comment in ubuntu-meeting, I thought DSO linking wasn't reverted, just --as-needed15:47
ScottKmicahg: I think you're right.  The idea is still good though.  Thanks.15:48
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mdeslauranybody know why gdm is showing me the "postfix" user in the chooser?16:02
seb128mdeslaur, bug #69603816:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 696038 in gdm (Ubuntu Natty) "system user appears in login list of users" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69603816:05
seb128mdeslaur, it likely comes from the ck-history log16:05
seb128not sure why it got a ck session now16:05
seb128now -> though16:05
mdeslaurseb128: ah, yes, that seems to be the appropriate bug...thanks!16:06
seb128mdeslaur, you're welcome16:06
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apwslangasek, are the compilers stable for the moment?16:14
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slangasekapw: for the next while at least16:35
udevbotError: "pilot-in" is not a valid command.16:38
smoser@pilot in16:38
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* dholbach hugs smoser :)16:39
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pittiScottK: do you have some further info about bug 712554? (see comment 4)16:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 712554 in jockey (Ubuntu Natty) "Unable to install Broadcom drivers from live session" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71255416:51
ScottKpitti: No.  I'll do install testing for Beta 1 and I'll see if it still happens.16:51
ScottK(I didn't get the chance for Alpha 3).16:52
pittiScottK: ok, thanks16:54
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mok0My friend is a sysadm who has just found the need to enable disk-quotas. We are thinking about writing software that gives a users a notification (every 30 minutes, say) if the users' disk quota is exceeded. Do you think there is an interest in such a system for Ubuntu in general?17:09
abhinav-pitti, I have added code for upgrading packages, but I dont seem to have any  obsolete packages to test with :-/17:10
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pittiabhinav-: just grab an older one from launchpad?17:11
abhinav-pitti, oh ok. I will try with that. thanks17:11
beunochrisccoulson, ping17:12
chrisccoulsonhi beuno17:13
beunohey chrisccoulson, I just got poked about missing search providers in FF17:13
beunoknow anything about this?17:13
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chrisccoulsonin maverick?17:13
beunochrisccoulson, yes17:14
chrisccoulsonbeuno, i think that should be fixed already17:14
chrisccoulsonpitti - did the new langpacks get uploaded to maverick-proposed?17:15
pittichrisccoulson: yes, they are in17:15
chrisccoulsonbeuno, how long ago was this?17:15
chrisccoulsonpitti - thanks17:15
pittichrisccoulson: I tested search plugins with de, dpm tested es and ca17:15
pittibeuno: do you have language-pack-... 1:10.10+20110315 ?17:15
beunopitti, I haven't upgraded today, this is second-hand complaining  :)17:16
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smoseranyone with correct perms able to accept a trivial merge proposal ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/txt2regex/+bug/73632617:19
ubottuUbuntu bug 736326 in txt2regex (Ubuntu) "typo in repetition subwindows" [Undecided,In progress]17:19
beunochrisccoulson, any ideas how long its been broken?17:20
chrisccoulsonbeuno, since last friday17:21
beunochrisccoulson, and this is just maverick?17:22
chrisccoulsonbeuno, just maverick-proposed17:22
beunochrisccoulson, ah, so low impact?17:23
chrisccoulsonbeuno, yeah17:24
beunochrisccoulson, cool, thanks17:24
slangasekjamespage: I'm not sure who normally takes care of openjdk-6 packaging; if you want to have a look at fixing bug #737603 I'm happy to provide support, or if you need this to be a foundations problem I can queue it up to work on here today/tomorrow17:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 737603 in openjdk-6 (Ubuntu) "JNI unable to find libpam.so" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73760317:25
cjwatsonslangasek: normally doko17:25
jamespagecjwatson beat me to it....17:26
SpamapSSo.. the runit-run package uses dpkg-divert to replace /sbin/init ...17:35
SpamapSI'm not sure if this is a huge critical bug or just an insanely weird package.17:40
jamespageslangasek: it would be great if foundations could pick this up - is doko around?17:43
abhinav-pitti, Interestingly, I have the latest linux header updates pending in the update manager, but apport simply starts with asking questions. I was thinking that report.obsolete_packages() checks the cache17:46
pittiabhinav-: it only checks (transitive) dependencies of the crashed program, not all packages17:46
abhinav-pitti, so apport-bug linux would check for linux and its dependencies ?17:49
pittiabhinav-: yes, and as the kernel doesn't have many, it won't complain17:49
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pittiabhinav-: you could e. g. install acl (or another small package) from maverick, and then try to report a bug against it17:50
pittiabhinav-: or from lucid, if you are on natty; try installing http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/acl/acl_2.2.49-2_i386.deb and then ubuntu-bug acl17:51
abhinav-pitti, ah ok thanks. I am on maverick though.17:51
pittiabhinav-: above is lucid's version, will work17:52
abhinav-pitti, ok thanks. trying :)17:52
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slangasekjamespage: I think doko may still be traveling back from pycon?  at least that's what his TZ availability this week seems to suggest17:55
slangasekright, PyCon ran through yesterday, so I guess he's traveling no17:56
slangasekso I'll have a look at this17:56
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slangasekSpamapS: the runit-run package that no longer exists in Debian due to this critical bug? :)17:57
SpamapSslangasek: YES that one.17:58
SpamapSslangasek: shall we drop it as well?17:58
slangasekI would think so17:58
SpamapSslangasek: its also usurping 'man init' on manpages.ubuntu.com .. doh17:58
* slangasek chuckles17:58
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abhinav_pitti, acl is also in apt's cache, but apport is not reporting it as obsolete. I checked with my new code as well as with the current trunk18:15
slangasekRiddell: if I understand your cmake change correctly, this populates the search path by invoking dpkg-architecture at runtime, right?18:18
slangasekRiddell: in that case, you probably also want cmake to depend on dpkg-dev, since dpkg-dev isn't guaranteed to be installed on the systems of end users who are doing non-package-related development18:19
jamespageslangasek: thankyou18:20
slangasek(but this is a minor bug - the fix looks very nice, glad you guys were able to come up with a solution)18:20
slangasekRiddell: as a side effect, this seems to fix cmake behavior for cross-compilation against libraries in multiarch paths... which is exactly what we want to see :-)18:22
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Riddellslangasek: yes, we're currently discussing in #k-d if we want to depend on dpkg-dev or hardcode it at package build time18:40
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penguin42smoser: Hi18:50
smoserpenguin42, hi18:52
penguin42smoser: I proposed the merge of a branch against bug 725044 and wouldn't if I should do anything else18:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 725044 in libsdl1.2 (Ubuntu Natty) "SDL rendering issue: graphic corruption while scrolling right" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72504418:53
smoserpenguin42, i'll take a look18:53
penguin42Thanks - ampelbein helped me through the process for the 1st time18:55
christer1 /quit18:57
smoserpenguin42, i do not have upload access for libsdl, so i can't upload it. it looks good to me though.  I commented with one nitpick in the bug, and i think you  might as well fix that.19:10
smosers/bug/branch merge proposal/19:10
chrisccoulsonhi slangasek. would you mind taking a quick look at bug 737641? :)19:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 737641 in make-dfsg (Ubuntu Natty) "Mozilla packages don't build in Natty (and blocking FF4.0 RC2/final)" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73764119:18
chrisccoulsonit seems multi-arch related19:18
penguin42smoser: OK, thanks I can fix that up19:23
slangasekchrisccoulson: sigh :/  what build system is this?19:24
slangasekchrisccoulson: also, what's the corresponding source package in the archive that I should look at? I don't see thunderbird-3.3 anywhere19:26
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chrisccoulsonslangasek, that's hard to describe, it's a fairly complex and customized build system just built around make19:26
chrisccoulsonslangasek, yeah, thunderbird-3.3 is in one of our PPA's, but the failure also affects the firefox and thunderbird packages in the archive19:27
chrisccoulsonalthough, they haven't been rebuilt since the changes yesterday. i wanted to upload the new release today before i hit the problem locally19:27
slangasekchrisccoulson: ok, found the code responsible in make-dfsg; working on making it smarter19:58
chrisccoulsonslangasek, excellent, thank you :)19:58
MadCow108is natty going to have multiarch support? I'm a bit surprised at all these uploads with multiarch in the changelog after feature freeze o_o20:00
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vishScottK: hmm, Aubergine is not Ubuntu's color either, its just Canonical's color.. so its not flavored in anyway.. ;)20:32
vishany* way20:33
ScottKvish: OK.  It goes better with Orange than Blue in any case.20:33
* vish nods..20:33
ScottKIt would nice if such things were discussed before they were langed, particularly after feature freeze.20:33
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charlie-tca+1 ScottK20:43
slangasekchrisccoulson: make fix uploaded20:44
chrisccoulsonslangasek, you rock! thanks :)20:44
slangasekchrisccoulson: n/p, sorry for the breakage20:45
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ScottKcharlie-tca: Please reply to the thread on ubuntu-devel.21:21
charlie-tcaI can't. I don't have rights there21:28
ScottKcharlie-tca: You can.  It just goes into a moderation queue.  It'll be delayed, but it will get there.21:28
charlie-tcaokay. I will then!21:29
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till_in my the dependencies in my control file, is there a way to say package depends on another package foo or a package bar, but if none is installed, just get foo?22:03
Ampelbeintill_: Depends: foo | bar22:04
* till_ facepalms22:06
till_Ampelbein: thanks =)22:06
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RoAkSoAxbryceh: ping22:28
RoAkSoAxbryceh: any ideas what might be cause this? http://me.roaksoax.com/dual-monitor.jpeg (Intel Video driver maybe?)22:30
brycehRoAkSoAx, could be a few things22:31
brycehRoAkSoAx, do you have compiz running?  (looks like no?)22:31
RoAkSoAxbryceh: nope22:32
brycehRoAkSoAx, what video driver?22:32
RoAkSoAxbryceh: just happens when laptop's LCD is off though22:32
brycehheh, here comes a game of 20 questions22:32
brycehRoAkSoAx, why don't you describe a bit more about your setup22:32
brycehwhat you did to reproduce, etc.22:32
RoAkSoAxbryceh: Intel HD Video graphics. Lenovo x201 recently purchased. I connect it to VGA and when having the laptop's LCD on, then the external monitors work just fine22:33
RoAkSoAxwhen turning off the LCD displayt and just leaving the external monitors, it shows that22:33
RoAkSoAxbryceh: i connect to both external monitors via a dualhead2go, though when using another laptop with nvidia drivers, this doesn't happen22:34
RoAkSoAxbryceh: and it doesn;t matter if I connect it to one external monitors, or the two (via dualhead2go). Same result22:35
brycehwhen you connect to one monitor, is that through the dualhead2go device or straight thru?22:36
RoAkSoAxbryceh: straight thru22:36
brycehin what manner do you turn off the LCD display?22:36
RoAkSoAxbryceh: gnome-display-properties22:37
slangasekpitti: heh, fontconfig is not the only package broken by cdbs+python-scour; atk is as well22:38
brycehalright, so most likely it's either a kernel (KMS) problem with drm or potentially gnome-display-properties22:38
slangasekand I just broke it22:38
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slangasek(on powerpc, anyway)22:38
RoAkSoAxbryceh: if I use my other laptop with nVidia proprietary or with nouveau, I don't experience this at all22:38
brycehRoAkSoAx, well, it is almost certainly something unusual about that particular laptop's vga port22:39
brycehRoAkSoAx, however that does tend to rule out bad edid I suppose22:39
brycehRoAkSoAx, here is what I would do to diagnose it a bit further22:40
bryceha.  reboot with the monitor attached, and verify the problem still occurs22:40
RoAkSoAxbryceh: (oh forgot to mention, this worked fine in Maverick) and I've done a. and the problem persists22:41
bryceha.  reboot with the monitor attached and lvds left on, you should not see the problem22:41
brycehb.  now use xrandr to disable the lvds (not gnome-display-properties)22:41
brycehc.  if the issue still occurs at this point, run 'ubuntu-bug xorg' and I'll take a look22:42
* RoAkSoAx on it now22:42
brycehRoAkSoAx, otoh if it does not occur when disabling the monitor using xrandr, then the bug probably should be filed against gnome-display-properties22:42
brycehalthough, in either case I suspect the root cause may be kernel kms drm driver issues, but probably best to start from userspace for diagnostic purposes22:43
brycehRoAkSoAx, if you can also post a Xorg.0.log and 'xrandr --verbose' output from when it's working *correctly* for comparison purposes, that'll probably help22:44
cjwatsonbryceh: FYI Andy's kernel/udev/plymouth/gdm/etc. suite of changes is on its way up now22:45
brycehcjwatson, awesome!  many bug reports are about to fall22:45
cjwatsonnvidia is still problematic I think, but I added plymouth:force-drm which lets people experiment with the plymouth drm driver again on nouveau22:45
cjwatsoncan't speak for ati22:45
brycehI'll email AMD and let them know22:46
bryceh-fglrx is still unreleased22:46
cjwatsonhaven't yet touched kdm22:47
cjwatsonbut it shouldn't break them22:47
RoAkSoAxbryceh: yeah ut seens to be gnome-display-properties then as I disable with xrandr and external monitors work just fine with LVDS off22:49
brycehRoAkSoAx, ok good, that narrows it down nicely22:50
brycehRoAkSoAx, ok i think you have enough info to file a bug report against gnome-display-properties, and xrandr should give you a workaround for now, but feel free to let me know if you have any other questions22:51
RoAkSoAxbryceh: awesome! Tha nks a lot for the help22:51
brycehcjwatson, ok AMD is notified of the change.  Hopefully they'll catch any issues in their testing22:57
ScottKcjwatson: Is there something it would be beneficial to do for KDM?22:59
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slangasekScottK: yes, kdm needs an update to adjust its upstart start condition (cjwatson just commented it in the bug)23:01
ScottKslangasek: Which bug?23:01
cjwatsonScottK: bug 70209023:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 702090 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu Natty) "i965gm GPU lockup if vesafb is left loaded (EIR: 0x00000010 PGTBL_ER: 0x00000100) - *ERROR* EIR stuck: 0x00000010, masking" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70209023:02
ScottKcjwatson: Thanks.23:02
slangasekcjwatson: force-drm> so drm is now off by default?  I'm clearly out of the loop on plymouth; is there a refresher course available to get me up to speed on the current architecture / assumptions ?:)23:02
cjwatsonScottK: should be something along the lines of http://paste.ubuntu.com/582287/23:02
cjwatsonslangasek: that's specifically for nouveau, and you were the one who turned it off :-)23:02
cjwatsonslangasek: bug 539655, for a refresher23:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 539655 in linux (Ubuntu) "nouveau hard lockup in nouveau_gem_ioctl_cpu_fini" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53965523:03
ScottKThanks.  Now to figure out if cmake is fixed yet.23:03
slangasekcjwatson: oh, that :-)23:03
slangasekok, so it's only needed on nouveau, gotcha :)23:03
cjwatsonslangasek: I just wanted to make it run-time so that we could test fixes23:03
* slangasek nods23:03
cjwatson(if any)23:03
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debfxcjwatson: do you know why component-mismatches says that kdesvn-kio-plugins needs to be promoted to main even though it is only an alternate dependency of kdesdk?23:22
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cjwatsondebfx: because the primary alternative, kdesdk-kio-plugins, is uninstallable on armel at the moment (it's out of sync, which is presumably why), so germinate fails to resolve it and falls back to the secondary alternative23:41
debfxcjwatson: ok, thanks for the explanation23:45

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