[02:17] <MK-BB> hi any officials who can help me w/ ubuntu-kr.org domain?
[02:18] <pleia2> MK-BB: what do you need help with?
[02:19] <MK-BB> i'm part of korean locoteam in charge of server..
[02:19] <MK-BB> i need help changing the domain ubuntu-kr.org dns..
[02:20] <MK-BB> who is the person in charge of domains?
[02:21] <pleia2> they are handled by the canonical sysadmins, looking up the documentation now for how to request dns changes
[02:22] <pleia2> MK-BB: ok, you need to submit a GPG signed request to rt@ubuntu.com to get keys to change DNS
[02:22] <pleia2> details are on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoHosting under "Domain Name Service"
[02:26] <MK-BB> thank you
[02:26] <MK-BB> pleia2: is there person here who can take care for us right away? because our forum domain is like completely down and could use help right away
[02:27] <pleia2> MK-BB: the ticket has to be filed, then you can join #canonical-sysadmin to ask if anyone is around to look at it
[02:28] <pleia2> you'll want to give them the ticket number
[02:29] <MK-BB> alrite sounds good
[02:29] <pleia2> good luck :)
[02:29] <MK-BB> thanks
[06:42] <YoBoY> good morning
[08:14] <dholbach> good morning
[08:24] <YoBoY> Bonjour dholbach comment ça va ?
[08:45] <AlanBell> hi all
[08:46] <AlanBell> during our recent election process we discovered that the process wasn't that well defined particularly when we ended up with a single nomination there was a bit of confusion about what to do next
[08:47] <AlanBell> as you shouldn't really make up election processes as you go along we have started to define it in more detail
[08:47] <AlanBell> http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/UUKElectionProcess comments welcome
[08:55] <dholbach> salut YoBoY - ça va bien - et toi? qu'est-ce qui ce passe en France?
[08:56] <YoBoY> plein de choses :D
[08:56] <YoBoY> ça va bien aussi ^^
[08:56] <dholbach> excellent :)
[08:56] <dholbach> YoBoY, tu habite ou en France?
[08:57] <YoBoY> à côté de Paris
[08:59] <dholbach> :)
[12:05] <cjohnston> Ronnie: 
[12:05] <cjohnston> ping
[12:05] <Ronnie> pong
[12:05] <cjohnston> im reviewing your url branch
[12:06] <cjohnston> i cant open up global events now
[12:06] <cjohnston> No TeamEvent matches the given query.
[12:06] <Ronnie> cjohnston: ill have alook
[12:07] <cjohnston> while your at it.. do you want to change the global event urls to be pretty urls too?
[12:09] <Ronnie> cjohnston: what do you propose to put in the url @ global?>
[12:10] <cjohnston> /events/ubuntu-global-jam/###/detail
[12:11] <Ronnie> lol, got the problem
[12:11] <cjohnston> check the merge.. theres a couple
[12:12] <cjohnston> also a problem on copying events
[12:12] <cjohnston> and meetings
[12:12] <Ronnie> ill change the global urls and then have a look
[12:13] <cjohnston> ok
[12:13] <YoBoY> stupid quetions : are you planning to talk about LD in the next UDS? to define the next evolutions, the eventual changes in the model, etc... ?
[12:13] <cjohnston> probably
[12:13] <cjohnston> have at the past two
[12:14] <YoBoY> I think all this url pretifier thing should be also talked there to make a sort of url naming convention
[12:15] <cjohnston> you mean an event naming convention?
[12:15] <YoBoY> not only for the events ^^"
[12:15] <cjohnston> im still waiting on the LC to make a team naming convention
[12:16] <cjohnston> (or force the) team naming convention
[12:16] <cjohnston> what else are you referring to
[12:16] <YoBoY> for example, a team URL is : http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-xx 
[12:17] <Ronnie> cjohnston: i wait a bit for the global url renaming. putting names in the url can be dangerous, if there is no limitation to the characters used
[12:17] <YoBoY> we could use a simple http://loco.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-xx
[12:17]  * Ronnie would love to see that ;)
[12:17] <cjohnston> YoBoY: they are loco.u.c/teams/<lp-name>
[12:17] <YoBoY> ^^
[12:17] <cjohnston> I could go with that... but  i would ssay skip the ~
[12:18] <cjohnston> thats an lp thing
[12:18] <cjohnston> Ronnie: put a limit on it
[12:18] <YoBoY> yes, just added it to see the link with LP teams naming ^^
[12:18] <cjohnston> plus, thats only for global events, so we only need to worry about the lc for that
[12:19] <Ronnie> cjohnston: therefore i need to do some form checking etc. so ill leave that one open for now. its a bit more complicated. Ill have a look at the errors
[12:19] <cjohnston> ok
[12:21] <cjohnston> Ronnie: could you please comment on bug 720804
[12:21] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 720804 in loco-directory "External links look the same as internal ones (affects: 1) (heat: 4)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/720804
[12:21] <YoBoY> but that was just a thought
[12:21] <YoBoY> need to write a blueprint for that ^^"
[12:22] <cjohnston> YoBoY: i dont think so.. Ronnie i think the loco.u.c/team-name would be fairly easy no?
[12:22] <Ronnie> cjohnston: schould not be that hard
[12:23] <Ronnie> cjohnston: altough loco.u.c/~team-name is better i think
[12:23] <cjohnston> I hate the ~
[12:23] <cjohnston> lol
[12:23] <YoBoY> :)
[12:23] <Ronnie>  because we dont have to use the root urls.py for that url
[12:23] <cjohnston> ok
[12:24] <cjohnston> Ronnie: how is the my teams page coming
[12:25] <Ronnie> cjohnston: i need to merges to make it work (twidenash fails because i cant decide de amount of tweets, and it supports only one instance per page)
[12:25] <cjohnston> ic
[12:25] <Ronnie> and the XML Feeds fails
[12:25] <cjohnston> is there a merge waiting for that?
[12:25] <Ronnie> we have to team(event+meetings) feed
[12:25] <Ronnie> cjohnston: for both there is a merge waiting
[12:25] <cjohnston> ok
[12:25] <Ronnie> tiwdentica
[12:26] <cjohnston> whos responsible for that? is it mhall119 ?
[12:26] <Ronnie> yes mhall119 commented on the bug. he wants to separate the code from LD and do an import
[12:27] <cjohnston> gotcha
[12:27] <Ronnie> but thats not possible before bzr-apps is integrated
[12:27]  * cjohnston wonders if we can fix now and seperate later
[12:27] <Ronnie> so, in my opinion, we could do the merge now (if approved) and serparate later
[12:27] <Ronnie> same tought ;)
[12:27] <cjohnston> cause it would be REALLY cool to push the my teams page with the top-nav
[12:28] <Ronnie> atm the old twitter script is shipped with LD too
[12:28] <Ronnie> yes, the my-teams is really awsome to have
[12:29] <Ronnie> YoBoY: any suggestions for the url "my-teams" >
[12:29] <cjohnston> loco.u.c/+me
[12:29] <YoBoY> hum... http://loco.ubuntu.com/my-teams ? ^^"
[12:30] <YoBoY> cjohnston: you don't like the ~ but you like the + ? :D
[12:30] <cjohnston> no
[12:30] <cjohnston> but if we are doing one we might as well do both
[12:30] <cjohnston> effie_jayx: ping
[12:30] <Ronnie> cjohnston: im thinking about a total new url design
[12:30] <YoBoY> I like the + when it point to a function that change a page, for exemple +edit +detail +subscribe
[12:31] <cjohnston> +me is used by lp iirc
[12:31] <cjohnston> Ronnie: /66
[12:31] <cjohnston> nm Ronnie 
[12:32] <Ronnie> now we have l.u.c/events/<team> and l.u.c/meetings/team and l.u.c/team
[12:32] <Ronnie> why not having l.u.c/<team> l.u.c/<team>/meetings and l.u.c/<team>/events
[12:32] <cjohnston> change to l.u.c/team/*
[12:33] <YoBoY> in launchpad, my teams is +particpation
[12:33] <cjohnston> short = sweet
[12:34] <YoBoY> +1 ronnie, having the team name in the first place is great
[12:34] <cjohnston> Daviey: any chance you could delete https://code.launchpad.net/~davewalker/loco-directory/542367
[12:35] <cjohnston> Ronnie mhall119 I want to clean up the branch list.. its getting huge again
[12:35] <Ronnie> cjohnston: good idea
[12:36] <Daviey> cjohnston, Was that merged?
[12:37] <cjohnston> Daviey: i dont think so
[12:37] <Daviey> shrug
[12:37] <Daviey> it's depreciated now tho, isn't it?
[12:37] <cjohnston> id think so
[12:37] <cjohnston> the bug is fix released
[12:38] <Daviey> yeah, looks like you worked on it aswell
[12:38] <Daviey> deleted
[12:38] <cjohnston> ty sir
[12:38] <Daviey> np
[12:39] <cjohnston> Ronnie: could you please delete https://code.launchpad.net/~ronnie.vd.c/loco-directory/top-nav
[12:40] <Ronnie> sure
[12:40] <cjohnston> ty
[12:42] <cjohnston> Ronnie: if you could when you get time go through your branches and see what may need to be updated to push or delete :-)
[12:42] <cjohnston> im doing that with mine and determined that i found one that should've be propsed but never was
[12:42] <cjohnston> :-/
[12:49] <Ronnie> deleted 2 branches
[12:49] <Ronnie> about the other 2 im not sure, maybe usefull for the future
[12:50] <Ronnie> so ill keep them
[12:50] <Ronnie> one is a map with all the loco's on it, the other a link between loco and ld, so loco can change users information on LP
[12:54] <Ronnie> cjohnston: do you have any information on this: http://loco.ubuntu.com/jsi18n
[12:56] <effie_jayx> cjohnston: pong?
[12:57] <effie_jayx> be back ;)
[12:57] <cjohnston> looks like what would determine if a word should be singular or plural.. maybe mhall119 knows more
[12:57] <cjohnston> effie_jayx: could you go through your branches for loco-directory and determine if they need to be updated or if they are no longer relevent delete them please?
[12:57] <cjohnston> https://code.launchpad.net/loco-directory
[13:07] <YoBoY> Ronnie: when you are not in english, it's full of date string translations
[13:07] <YoBoY> example:
[13:07] <YoBoY> catalog['January February March April May June July August September October November December'] = 'Janvier F\u00e9vrier Mars Avril Mai Juin Juillet Ao\u00fbt Septembre Octobre Novembre D\u00e9cembre';
[13:07] <YoBoY> catalog['Midnight'] = 'Minuit';
[13:07] <Ronnie> YoBoY: i see, but how to fill it, and were it is used in the javascript?
[13:07] <YoBoY> don't know :D
[13:09] <Ronnie> YoBoY: i guess it isn't used
[13:10] <Ronnie> grep -R gettext media/ and grep -R gettext templates/ gives no result
[13:12] <cjohnston> effie-jayx: did you see what i posted
[13:14] <effie-jayx> mmm just woke up :)
[13:14] <effie-jayx> planet ubuntu?
[13:14] <effie-jayx> i'm going
[13:15] <Ronnie> YoBoY, cjohnston: looks like its the translation of the django admin interface
[13:15] <effie-jayx> email
[13:15] <cjohnston> effie-jayx: 08.56.35 < cjohnston> looks like what would determine if a word should be singular or plural.. maybe mhall119 knows more
[13:15] <cjohnston> 08.57.00 < cjohnston> effie_jayx: could you go through your branches for loco-directory and determine if they need to be updated or if they are no longer relevent  delete them please?
[13:15] <cjohnston> 08.57.14 < cjohnston> https://code.launchpad.net/loco-directory
[13:16] <effie-jayx> cjohnston: I think they are old
[13:16] <effie-jayx> a year old maybe
[13:16] <cjohnston> I think so as well
[13:16] <effie-jayx> the are not relevant
[13:16] <cjohnston> we dont have access to delete them though.. and are trying to clean up the list
[13:16] <effie-jayx> ok
[13:16] <effie-jayx> I will do so now
[13:16] <cjohnston> thanks
[13:17] <effie-jayx> amnd I am sorry I could ot be of any more helpe there
[13:21] <cjohnston> no prob.. your welcome to come back and get involced!
[13:21] <cjohnston> involved
[13:23] <effie-jayx> cjohnston: thanks :), all branches gone. There was some good stuff there but merging would be too painful. better off chcking and seeing if it makes sense today
[13:24] <cjohnston> ok
[13:24] <cjohnston> ty
[13:24] <cjohnston> Ronnie: were you able to find the bug?
[13:25] <Ronnie> cjohnston: fixing it now. forgot the replace the HttpResponseRedirect links
[13:25] <Ronnie> didnt test them either, just clicked a lot of pages, but no sumbit
[13:25] <cjohnston> sweet
[13:25] <cjohnston> i was about to click approve then went.. hmm.. lemme try it
[13:29] <effie-jayx> I am also fixing the tuno branch on launchpad, register the project and al that
[13:30] <effie-jayx> we should talk about how best you see this code working for LD
[13:30] <effie-jayx> when would you trigger a dent/tweet (for now)
[13:30] <effie-jayx> like for example.. tweet upon event creation?
[13:30] <cjohnston> that would be cool
[13:31] <effie-jayx> wat other cases?
[13:31] <cjohnston> i think reminders might be too much
[13:31] <mhall119> meeting announcements
[13:31] <cjohnston> maybe global event reminders
[13:31] <effie-jayx> cjohnston: they work
[13:32] <effie-jayx> they ae spammy but they get people
[13:32] <effie-jayx> mhall119: good one
[13:32]  * effie-jayx takes notes
[13:32] <mhall119> I think havving it in summit might be nice too
[13:33] <effie-jayx> tweet about random events and teams
[13:34] <effie-jayx> it's LD reaching out rather than leaving settings for anoucements per event per team
[13:34] <effie-jayx> to users
[13:34] <effie-jayx> overwhelming
[13:37] <Ronnie> cjohnston: the updated branch is pushed
[13:37] <effie-jayx> this room has been hijacked for LD development for the last 2 years :)
[13:38] <effie-jayx> cool thing bikesheding didn't happen
[13:39] <cjohnston> effie-jayx: at least LD is for locoteams
[13:39] <effie-jayx> yeah :)
[13:40] <effie-jayx> just saying nobody has complained for two years :)
[13:48] <cjohnston> I'll start complaining
[13:48] <cjohnston> heh
[14:06] <cjohnston> mhall119: what do you think about committing the twidentica stuff and moving it over later when you have more time
[14:08] <cjohnston> Ronnie: could you please move lp:~ronnie.vd.c/ubuntu-website/django-forms to community-webthemes
[14:09] <Ronnie> sure
[14:12] <Ronnie> cjohnston: how to do that easly?
[14:12] <cjohnston> just push it to lp:~ronnie.vd.c/ubuntu-community-webthemes/XXXXX
[14:12] <Ronnie> and then delete the old one?
[14:12] <cjohnston> yup
[14:17] <Ronnie> i need to cleanup my local repo ;)
[14:19] <YoBoY> Ronnie: rm -rf / ? :)
[14:19] <Ronnie> yup ;)
[14:27] <mhall119> cjohnston: are you getting a new release ready to go?
[14:27] <cjohnston> Ronnie: what is https://code.launchpad.net/~ronnie.vd.c/ubuntu-community-webthemes/tables for
[14:28] <cjohnston> mhall119: no.. just trying to get things ready to get a new release.. since Ronnie is stuck right now
[14:28] <Ronnie> basic table styling (as written in the web-guidelines PDF on design.canonical.com)
[14:28] <mhall119> do you want me to get bzr-apps setup for LD?
[14:29] <cjohnston> If you have time that'd be greaaat
[14:32] <cjohnston> Ronnie: is it required for the form base styling or seperate
[14:32] <Ronnie> its separate
[14:32] <cjohnston> ok
[14:33] <Ronnie> the forms is for the django-branch, the tables is for the base
[14:33] <cjohnston> ahh
[14:33] <Ronnie> if the forms it taken into django- and tested well, ill make a base version of it
[14:33] <cjohnston> ok
[14:33] <mhall119> Ronnie: is your twidenash stuff on the twidenash trunk?
[14:34] <Ronnie> mhall119: yes version 2.0
[14:36] <Ronnie> cjohnston: the django-forms should be release with lp:~ronnie.vd.c/loco-directory/form-base-styling (which have the LD specific changes to the forms)
[14:38] <cjohnston> Ronnie: im noticing a bunch of issues
[14:39] <Ronnie> cjohnston: on which branch, and what issues ?
[14:40] <cjohnston> im uploading images
[14:40] <Ronnie> oke
[14:40] <cjohnston> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2494160/Footer.png
[14:40] <cjohnston> The copyright info now wrapps
[14:40] <cjohnston> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2494160/Event%20Page.png
[14:41] <cjohnston> the misalignments
[14:41] <Ronnie> oh, i need to make some exceptions for the searchbox and language chooser
[14:41] <cjohnston> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2494160/Team%20page.png
[14:41] <cjohnston> misalignments
[14:42] <Ronnie> thats a very stange one
[14:42] <mhall119> are we ready to include the top-nav revision of ubuntu_website?
[14:42] <mhall119> or is there still work to be done on that?
[14:42] <cjohnston> I believe its ready
[14:42] <Ronnie> cjohnston: top-nav is ready, is it?
[14:43] <mhall119> is the LD code ready to display proper username login/logout links?
[14:44] <mhall119> Ronnie: how about the new twidenash stuff, has the LD side of that been merged yet?
[14:44] <Ronnie> mhall119: login/logout works correct
[14:44] <cjohnston> mhall119: if you look at those links, i think youll seew what your asking
[14:45] <Ronnie> mhall119: twidenash LD part is all in here: https://code.launchpad.net/~ronnie.vd.c/loco-directory/twidentica/+merge/51626
[14:48] <mhall119> Ronnie: thanks
[14:52] <mhall119> Ronnie: should there be any references to "twidentica" left?
[14:52] <Ronnie> mhall119: you can do a search for it, but if you find one, it should be removed
[14:54] <mhall119> ok, there's on in global_event_detail_inc.html
[14:54] <mhall119> and also on jquery-twidenash.js line 41
[14:55] <mhall119> also, my top-nav is gray not white
[14:55] <Ronnie> cjohnston: the error on the page were created by the wrong use of label :(
[14:55] <cjohnston> Ronnie: gotcha
[14:55] <cjohnston> mhall119: its fixed.. you may still be pulling from ubuntu-website-themes
[14:56] <mhall119> ah yes, I probably am, what's the new one
[14:56] <Ronnie> using <label> in <table> in not good :(
[14:56] <cjohnston> ubuntu-community-webthemes
[14:57] <mhall119> still light-django-theme?
[14:57] <cjohnston> ya
[14:57] <cjohnston> iirc that has been comitted to trunk
[14:57] <cjohnston> bbiab
[15:04] <YoBoY> arg stop acronyms
[15:04] <YoBoY> ^^
[15:11] <mhall119> cjohnston and Ronnie: https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/loco-directory/bzr-apps-upgrades/+merge/54010
[15:12] <mhall119> cjohnston: in order to get bzr-apps setup, we'll need IS to run ./manage.py init-ld again
[15:13] <mhall119> and every deployment after that, they'll need to run ./manage.py pullapps
[15:14] <mhall119> I've added the pullapps line to the ReleaseProcess wiki page
[15:25] <Ronnie> cjohnston: i have to go
[15:25] <Ronnie> forms fixes are submitted
[15:25] <Ronnie> https://code.launchpad.net/~ronnie.vd.c/loco-directory/form-base-styling/+merge/53174
[15:25] <Ronnie> https://code.launchpad.net/~ronnie.vd.c/ubuntu-community-webthemes/django-forms/+merge/53998
[15:35] <YoBoY> dholbach: great post :)
[15:35] <dholbach> thanks YoBoY
[16:09] <mhall119> yay, my passport is here!
[16:13] <nigelb> ]o/
[16:13] <nigelb> darn
[16:13] <nigelb> this means no kicking.
[16:15] <mhall119> there's always cjohnston 
[16:19] <nigelb> heh, yes
[20:12] <mhall119> one set of django-openid-auth tests done
[21:09] <cjohnston> Ronnie: have you pushed fixes to the to forms branches
[21:25] <mhall119> cjohnston: have you had a chance to test my bzr-apps branch?
[21:25] <cjohnston> mhall119: no... combo of waiting on his branch since im in the middle of testing it and working on homework
[21:25] <mhall119> ok
[21:25] <cjohnston> after dinner ill revert his out and test yours
[21:29] <mhall119> cool, remember to run init-ld first
[21:46] <cjohnston> mhall119: http://paste.ubuntu.com/582263/
[21:47] <cjohnston> i think that the twidendash should be ubuntu-django-foundations no?
[21:55] <mhall119> cjohnston: it's not really django-specific though
[21:55] <cjohnston> im talking about the lp:
[21:55] <cjohnston> it doesnt seem to be found at ~django-foundations-dev/twidenash
[21:55] <cjohnston> or is it twidendash
[21:56] <cjohnston> i dunno
[21:56] <mhall119> are you talking about "Destination branch not found"?
[21:56] <cjohnston> ya
[21:56] <mhall119> that just means you didn't have a local branch of twidenash, so it made one for you
[21:56] <cjohnston> o
[21:57] <cjohnston> why does pulling bzr apps: not show anything afterwards
[21:57] <mhall119> I dunno, the print statement comes first, but it's being buffered or something until after the pulling is finished
[21:58] <mhall119> yuor pastebin looks like everything ran fine though
[22:08] <Ronnie> cjohnston: yes, forms branch is ready
[22:09] <Ronnie> mhall119: ill have a look at the bzr apps merge
[22:10] <mhall119> Ronnie: thanks, the more testing the better
[22:10] <mhall119> like I told cjohnston, make sure you run init-ld
[22:11] <Ronnie> thx, i was looking for the command to download the branches ;)
[22:12] <cjohnston> mhall119: for some reason, on the main page, i have 4 tweets from 200+days ago
[22:12] <mhall119> the command is pullapps, but it won't work until you have bzr-apps branched locally.  init-ld will branch bzr-apps if you don't have it, then it calls pullapps
[22:12] <cjohnston> all from locodir
[22:12] <mhall119> cjohnston: I got that at first too, refresh it again in a couple minutes and see if you get more
[22:12] <cjohnston> team pages are not pulling up
[22:13] <cjohnston> just get a page of dots
[22:14] <Ronnie> cjohnston: CTRL+F5 sometimes helps
[22:14] <cjohnston> ive refreshed about a dozen times
[22:14] <mhall119> hmmm, ubuntu-us-florida shows up for me, but not ubuntu-uk
[22:14] <cjohnston> ah hah
[22:14] <cjohnston> i have that as well
[22:15] <mhall119> doh, Ronnie forgot to close a <script> tag
[22:16] <Ronnie> mhall119: that could be a tricky one
[22:16] <Ronnie> and i think i know why it behaves that way
[22:17] <cjohnston> mhall119: so do we have to update this each time we want to pull a new version of something
[22:18] <Ronnie> mhall119: you have to switch line 74 and 75
[22:25] <mhall119> fixed in rev 427 of bzr-apps-upgrades
[22:26] <Ronnie> mhall119: got another one
[22:26] <Ronnie> line 24 of that template
[22:26] <Ronnie> <script type="text/javascript" src="{{MEDIA_URL}}js/twidenash/jquery-twidenash.js"></script>
[22:26] <Ronnie> should below the {% endif %}
[22:26] <mhall119> yeah, got that too
[22:26] <Ronnie> nice
[22:30] <Ronnie> mhall119: dont know why, but twitter does not replay any results
[22:30] <Ronnie> reply*
[22:31] <Ronnie> but if i copy the url in the brower, i get json response
[23:22] <trinikrono> hey guys
[23:32] <mhall119> hi trinikrono