[00:15] I am going up for Ubuntu membership now, so if anyone wants to pop into room #ubuntu-meeting and put in a good word for me, i'd be super thrilled :) thanks === Guest28722 is now known as seidos === symptom is now known as epoch [00:48] hey MarkDude [00:51] Congratulations, iheartubuntu1 === seidos is now known as seiuno [00:53] yay iheartubuntu1! [00:53] OMG! Ubuntu! [00:53] i probably shouldnbt say that now [00:53] thanks! [00:53] no questions or anything? [00:54] it's good to have a thorough wiki page [00:55] wow, i need a beer === Guest28722 is now known as seiuno [00:56] iheartubuntu1, :p ;) [00:56] :) [00:57] IRC from webchat sucks, especially during a meeting [00:57] i feel awkward, like iheartubuntu1 just had a kid, and i don't really know what to say to him [00:57] hello seiuno [00:57] name the kid! [00:57] winner :P [00:57] ah, that's too deluded [00:58] perhaps Rahula is more appropriate [00:58] seiuno, CONGRATS! On your ability to mke little humans [00:58] now, back to work [00:58] spawn is probably more accurate [00:59] make involves...i dunno...work [00:59] (why did i say my age, why did i say my age) i feel elderly now [01:00] go and be 12 for a little while [01:00] iheartubuntu1: s'ok, MarkDude is wicked old [01:00] * pleia2 hugs MarkDude [01:00] MarkDude is wicked young. He's like 8 [01:00] ok, like twice my age [01:00] haha [01:00] oh, darn, I missed it -- how old is iheartubuntu1? (younger than I am, I'll guess) [01:01] well, i'll never be older than 39 anyways [01:01] 37 [01:01] i was just 30 a year or two ago too [01:01] youngster! [01:01] i still get carded if that counts [01:01] actually the ubuntu community has quite the age range [01:01] iheartubuntu1, I joined late but noticed lots of folks did ages. I don't get it either :) [01:01] age is kind of arbitrary, if you look and feel 18, but were born 50 years ago, how old are you? [01:02] 50 [01:02] it's a mathematical fact [01:02] i had recently read pleia2 article in full circle interviewing a grandmother. thats exciting [01:02] I got this tea with lunch and it's really quite awful, I don't know why I keep drinking it [01:02] yeah, valorie :) she's awesome [01:02] pleia2, Cause of the mug it's in? [01:03] jledbetter: it's from a can :\ [01:03] some mugs are radioactive actually [01:03] bananas are radioactive too [01:03] really? [01:03] pleia2, Ew [01:03] * iheartubuntu1 stick geiger counter to a banana [01:03] iheartubuntu1, I see a radioactive pattern with you ;) [01:03] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_equivalent_dose [01:04] he's growing a godzilla in his garden [01:04] it's the only way to explain the fascination [01:04] Ah. Well, that is pretty awesome. [01:04] iheartubuntu1, I wanna see it [01:04] see what [01:04] the baby godzilla! [01:04] lol [01:05] i am? [01:05] ohh yes [01:05] this may have just crossed a line [01:05] i am [01:05] i just fed him his iodide too :) [01:05] (asking to see iheartubuntu1's baby godzilla) [01:05] s'why you grow 200lbs of food a year [01:05] iheartubuntu1, Such a good daddy :D [01:05] he wont glow tomorrow [01:05] jtatum, Sorry. :( [01:05] * akk has a little stuffed mozilla that could play baby godzilla [01:05] akk: aww :) [01:05] he will get gigantic with the banana tree [01:06] lol [01:06] actually, i dont have a banana tree yet [01:06] good idea tho [01:06] bananas don't grow well in CA, I think I've heard? [01:06] i have two cherry trees, two apple trees, two peaches, 4 blueberries, 1 clementine, 1 navel orange [01:06] yummy [01:07] now i think we will move ina few years [01:07] Nice! [01:07] up the street and keep this place... maybe for inlaws or something [01:07] do they produce a good amount of fruit? [01:07] My baby apple tree is just starting to leaf out from its bare branches (so I haven't killed it yet :) [01:08] and a bunch of veggies still going [01:08] i need to plan my spring crop [01:08] i'd like to grow beans, but i can't walk through walls [01:08] walk through walls? [01:08] a metahpor. i don't own this place. [01:08] * akk had a great crop of green beans one year but has failed with them every other year [01:09] metah-por, who talks like that? [01:09] last autumn ui matched up my cherry tree with another one... now ive got two trees filled with cherries starting to come in! and people said i couldnt do cherries in socal :) ha! [01:09] green beans and mint are the only things I ever successfully grew [01:09] there was a cucumber once, but the groundhogs wanted it [01:09] i haven't grown anything yet [01:09] my cucumbers were slaughtered by the lawn mower men [01:09] I had cucumbers one year, two kinds ... and discovered that really I'm not that interested in eating cucumber. [01:09] did you report them [01:09] groundhogs are fluffy and cute, and they had babies, so I let them have it [01:10] i'd have to ask my dad about the cilantro i planted [01:10] I like them in theory but in practice it's just never quite the right time to eat a cuke. [01:10] you might have been awarded a lifetime supply of cucs [01:10] Same problem as growing zuccini. [01:10] my cooking and eating philosophy is quite simple. food, in bowl, eat. [01:10] +h [01:10] it does shed light on staple foods [01:10] i didnt like cucs until my wife made a salad.... cucs, tomatoes, pepper, sour cream [01:10] zucchini bread is one of my favorite things in the world [01:11] meat isn't a staple food for me her at moms [01:11] but that only uses one of the 500 zucchinis that end up growing :) [01:11] some interesting things i've had are pie with beans and pizza, and ice cream + chocolate syrup + doritos + cheese crisps [01:11] * MarkDude feels like 90 today [01:11] MarkDude: aw :\ [01:11] True, I do love zuccini bread [01:12] though I don't think it's because of the zucchini in it :) [01:12] * seiuno feels worn out today too [01:12] i even rolled around on the floor a bit [01:12] what [01:12] hip move, rolls [01:12] for the static electricity for recharging? [01:13] no, for movement [01:13] trying to increase energy level [01:13] Like yoga? [01:13] yeah, i guess [01:13] well, yoga is static [01:13] I had to do evercises/stretches at Toastmasters ... somebody gave a speech on exercises you should do for 5 minutes every hour and a half when working a chair job. [01:13] this isn't [01:13] i do not recommend sticking your finger into a wall socket to recharge [01:13] iheartubuntu1, Yeah, didn't work for me either :( [01:13] i was in toastmasters [01:13] She had us all doing shoulder rolls and lunges and piies [01:13] in bwai scouts [01:13] i do not recommend stepping on a nail [01:14] iheartubuntu1: one of my little sisters did that once, a hospital trip followed (she was fine, just a little singed) [01:14] jledbetter was tmoty in her district [01:14] sitting on a plane for 13 hours isnt fun eitherl. have to get up and walk around [01:14] actually, she stuck a penny between the socket and a lamp plugged into it [01:14] ouch [01:15] I thought it was funny :) [01:15] I hate those 13-hour flights! Even with walking around now and then. [01:15] "heather flew!" AAHAHAHA OMGDS [01:15] i never shocked myself from a wall plug, but i did scorch a measuring tape when i was redoing the wiring in the kitchen of my old place [01:15] musical chairs, when the music stops, better have some $ saved [01:16] I got a buzz from a wall plug once but I guess I pulled away fast enough to avoid anything worse. [01:16] put all of my effiort to help a friend- she ended up causing drama- creating more work for me, good intent can be useless [01:16] hmmm, i have been shocked before. maybe it was from a plug...i don't recall. [01:16] markdude - installing linux? [01:17] i was shocked a few minutes ago actually :) [01:17] in the #ubuntu-meeting room [01:17] i only help those who ask for it...usually [01:18] im heading to this old guys house on the weekend to put ubuntu on his system. [01:19] iheartubuntu1, I would be more willing to to speak abou tit in Another CHANNEL #wc\u perhps [01:19] i screwed around for 3 hours on XP trying to get things going for him [01:19] that sounds like my mom, and that guy i tried to help in SF [01:19] he couldnt print etc. pop in the ubuntu disc and he was really happy [01:19] doesn't want to invest any work in learning a new system [01:20] better not ever upgrade to a new version of windows either :) [01:20] the system im using now has win7 on it also. [01:20] you mean the minor changes they make to the interface? [01:21] i bought it for my wife but she is giving it to her relatives, so until then i have ubuntu dual boot [01:21] she gets her support from my cousin, since he has lived here longer than i have [01:21] the windows side is horrible. everything keeps popping up [01:21] yeah, dual boot. that is probably the way to go with my mom. [01:21] norton, mcaffee, msoffice trials, aol [01:21] but then, she can get a reinstall of windows from my cousin [01:22] the realities of competition :) [01:22] popping up ... I love when windows people give talks, and 2 minutes into the talk some dialog pops up saying "Do you want to update this app?'" [01:22] or an IM from someone [01:23] i don't watch people give windows talks [01:23] how boring [01:23] I saw one where a dialog kept popping up saying "WGA (or whatever) has detected that this is an unregistered copy of Powerpoint" [01:23] has anyone here been to ferndale? [01:24] Ferndale, CA [01:24] just south of eureka [01:24] nice little victorian city [01:25] picked mushrooms in the forest :) (i know, busted) [01:25] http://www.victorianferndale.com/ [01:26] did you have lucid dreams? [01:26] not those kind [01:26] russians know mushrooms [01:26] its like a hobby [01:28] i know a little bit of everything, but not anything entirely [01:29] some of the things i am good at must not be spoken of [01:30] did you see that movie with steve carell, "Dan in Real Life"? [01:32] Dan didn't either [01:47] * iheartubuntu1 needs to get some food in him [01:47] not feed. feed is for animals. [01:47] i almost said feed [01:47] baahhh baaahh [01:47] aren't humans animals? :P [01:47] animals trying not to be animals [01:48] I am, anyway. [01:48] it is a problem with taxonomy if we say we aren't animals [01:49] i am not an animal in my own head :) [01:49] \o/ [01:51] so a banana equals about 0.1 μSv [01:51] thats going to take a ton of bananas to show up on my geiger counter [01:52] platanos for the win [01:52] i hear bananas are evil [01:52] from my dreadlock nomad friend [01:53] she is a chef that studied agriculture [01:53] sunshine? [01:53] i met her in SF at an Ubuntu Hour, actually [01:53] yeah [01:53] she's great :) [01:53] she may be in the LA area still, we met up a few times while she was waiting to set sail in Long Beach [01:54] she has mentioned a few times to me that she wants to be a jedi :P [01:54] nice name [01:54] i could get used to it easy [01:55] sure beat Mr or Mrs Doom & gloom [01:55] pushing without brow furrowed, not easy [01:55] i saw Royce Gracie doing it [01:55] maybe you are her jedi? [01:55] haha Dr. Doom [01:55] do YOU have a gozdilla in your backyard? [01:56] i forget his first name...Vincent von Doom i think [01:56] no, i'm no jedi [01:56] gozdilla, i mean godzilla [01:56] godzilla?! [01:56] you could be a jedi [01:56] its all in the mind [01:56] that is political incorrect considering what Alex Jones said about japanese [01:57] i can't walk through walls [01:57] it's an interesting philosophical question [01:57] what makes one a jedi? [01:57] a lightsaber? [01:57] :P [01:57] Seidos ... Size matters not, ... Look at me. Judge me by size, do you? [01:57] the closest thing i have to a light saber is a cell phone [01:58] depends what you mean by "judge" [01:58] "I cannot believe it. That is why you fail" [01:59] my take on it: "i can believe it." "that's why you're in hell" [01:59] seidos -- you need to act. “Do or do not... there is no try.” [01:59] give me a script [02:00] i wrote one awhile ago, but it's pretty...er...different ;) [02:00] the irony of that do or not do not statement is yoda was talking about using telekinesis [02:00] which i have "do notted" many times [02:00] it happens to every guy sometimes this does.] [02:01] hehe [02:01] “Foreplay, cuddling - a Jedi craves not these things” [02:01] (yoda said that???) [02:01] maybe yaddle did [02:02] yoda's supposed girlfriend [02:02] yoda should do XXX movies then. here is another “Who's your Jedi master? WHO'S your Jedi Master?” [02:02] and i think it was "adventure and excitement that a jedi doesn't crave" [02:03] * iheartubuntu1 deletes yoda visual from memory [02:03] that is so wrong...because yoda has more important things to do with his time [02:03] “Urm. Put a shield on my saber I must” [02:03] the cool thing about light sabers are they're the sword and sheath built into one [02:04] “Ahhh! Yoda's little friend you seek!” [02:04] this is one wrong movie [02:04] :D [02:04] "say hello to my little friend!" stabs with lightsaber [02:04] "yoda face" [02:40] i'm thinking that a driver that isn't written well, or specifically for a device, could cause hardware damage [02:42] Should be very rare. Most hardware shouldn't be damageable by software, except in the sense of accelerated wear. [02:45] i dunno, i am speculating [02:45] i do love that word "should" [02:47] i can't fathom *how* it would cause damage [02:51] what's going on philipballew [02:52] i'm trying to think of how it's possible to push a monitor harder than it can handle [02:52] hi philipballew [02:52] i guess sending a level of electricity that breaks the thing [02:52] thanks so much for the mention on my wiki [02:52] and somehow that relates to resolution @ some hz [02:53] just played 4 laps on supertuxkart with 20 AIs... ran nice! [02:53] wish that was multiplayer already [02:54] lasertag is multiplayer [02:54] that it is [02:54] so is darttag [02:54] so is war [02:54] but i suspect people will cheat at darttag [02:54] war is not a game [02:55] it is a show [02:55] "theater" [02:55] which theater of battle [02:55] scary [02:56] i'm not sure why the phrase "war is hell" has become cliche [02:56] so right now for our monthly games night the top contenders are open arena (or some 1st person), frozen bubble, chess, monopoly [02:56] open arena migh be the only multiplayer that allows large amounts of players [02:57] i can't play open arena, 3d acceleration is non-existent on my notebook [02:57] chess is 2 [02:57] so we would have to break into teams [02:57] same for monopoly [02:57] chess works [02:57] i just saw someone walk by me in the library, yet there is no one [02:57] strange [02:58] uh oh, you're jumping at shadows [02:58] i need to try frozen bubble [02:58] never heard of it [02:58] i think the poker game is multiplayer too [02:58] i wonder if warcraft 2 would work in wine [02:59] poker TH [02:59] something with good game mechanics, but retro graphics [02:59] oh and multiplayer support [03:00] so i can play on my notebook with intel graphics :P [03:00] hello iheartubuntu! [03:00] frozen bubble is strangely addictive [03:01] but probably not a good multiplayer game [03:01] hi philip! [03:01] wtg.com is an online golf game [03:01] free to play and great multiplayer [03:03] i could never find a solid game to play for gold besides that one [03:03] never compared to tiger woods on my p.s. [03:03] but that does [03:03] Poker TH has online multiplayer! [03:03] we could do max 10 people per game [03:03] maybe do a tree [03:04] winners advance or something [03:07] tournament? [03:10] ya [03:10] try it out. install Poker TH from software center [03:13] the odd random software never advertised in the software can be pterry cool [03:15] charlie sheen's picture: http://twitpic.com/4agt5j [03:15] for his "violent torpedo of truth" show [03:19] did Steve Irwin have long enough hair to be considered a hippie? [03:21] i get kicked outta here in 30 min [03:24] i wonder if yoda ever asked a lady: "judge me by my size do you?" [03:30] i would have no idea [03:31] haha, i have an even better one [03:31] i wonder if Yoda ever asked a Size Queen: "judge me by my size do you?" [03:31] dang, that's like some immovable object and unstoppable force meeting or something [03:32] "Assaj Ventress was a size queen." that might make an interesting t-shirt. [03:33] clone wars... [03:35] old republic... [03:35] i should unsubscribe to like 50% of my rss feeds [03:35] to like? who talks like that?! [03:36] "A new analysis of the 8.9-magnitude earthquake in Japan has found that the intense temblor has accelerated Earth's spin, shortening the length of the 24-hour day by 1.8 microseconds, according to geophysicist Richard Gross at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif." [03:37] does that mean we're aging slower now or quicker? [03:37] :P [03:37] i couldn't get natty to boot, either from live usb or in vbox [03:37] I wish someone would explain that when they report it. Is it just because of angular momentum because some of the ocean floor subducted? If so, don't volcanoes and seafloor spreading slow the spin down? [03:38] * akk hates "science" reports that just throw numbers around without explaining them [03:38] i cant get the unity to work in vbox myself [03:38] i gave up because i lack the time to put into it [03:41] i don't even necessarily believe it [03:42] i doubt that it impacts me at all [03:44] check out my screenshot of pokerth http://imagebin.org/143631 [03:44] its highly skinnable too [03:45] switch card styles [03:45] different backgrounds etc [03:45] nice [03:45] library is closing [03:45] outta here [03:46] later [03:46] see yall! thanks to seiuno philipballew darkwingduck and pleia2 :) [03:48] ttyl! [04:30] test [04:30] gah [04:30] it said i was identified === Guest28722 is now known as seidos === seidos is now known as seiuno [04:33] the newest ubuntubytes comic: http://ubuntubytescomic.blogspot.com/ [04:34] why did they change sudo [04:38] but ubuntu doesn't bite :( [04:41] no, it bytes [17:46] yah he got back on belts [17:48] whoops :) [17:48] wrong tab! [17:48] :p [17:48] i will be ordering here in an hour or so from the ubuntu store if anyone is still interested [17:49] (is stretching to the last final minute :) ) [17:51] what are you gonna' get? [17:54] i want a shirt [17:54] and i want a mouse [17:54] mouse looks futureistic [17:55] I just wish they had Kubuntu items [17:57] they have a kubuntu stress ball [17:57] i noticed it because i need to find my old stress ball so i can practice my juggling [17:57] It's the onld branding [17:57] *old [17:58] what does the new branding look like? [17:58] www.kubuntu.org [17:59] huh, interesting [18:00] it's more differentiated. i kind of liked the old branding [18:00] it made me think of "gear heads" [18:00] :) [18:04] i'm not sure what the branding is supposed to be. are those gears? or crowns? [18:05] I just hope they're not getting rid of the dancing squid and the golden shrimp. [18:06] bouncing squid [18:06] seiuno: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuArtwork [18:06] That's a better picture to include SVG [18:07] ohhh, maybe it's like pieces forming a single gear [18:07] cool [18:07] It's still gearish [18:07] and it kept the Ubuntu tri thing [18:08] yeah, the "group hug" [18:08] Aye [18:08] i think it would be cool if the center of the logo was a different color [18:08] maybe black [18:18] last call to pick something from ubuntu store [18:18] * iheartubuntu likes the gear on the new kubuntu logo [18:19] dang, my friend in brazil got robbed today [18:22] they stole his cell phone on the bus [18:28] with a two handed choke to the neck [18:29] sorry to hear [18:34] he came out of it all right, but now we're speculating on what should be done in the future [19:12] for some reason chromium is loading pages faster than firefox [19:17] like 2x faster === Guest28722 is now known as seiuno [19:41] it's weird, i get a msg from nickserv saying i was identified, and yet i'm a guest [19:41] empathy [19:58] i thought this was interesting: In the Majjhima Nikaya (Sutta No.135) the Buddha has said: “Actions (kamma) are one’s very own; actions are one’s inheritance; actions are one’s source of origin; actions are one’s kith and kin; actions are one’s support; actions divide beings, that is to say, into lowness and excellence.” [19:58] i wonder if it's true. seems like it might be. [20:03] I think its completely true [20:03] actions definitely define people [20:05] there could be one guy who is happy go lucky and doesnt get much done (although hes good at drinkin' beer), and then there could be another guy who studies, becomes knowledgeable and applies his skills can do more than the guy who didnt [20:06] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtMy5IBmX7E [20:07] Billy Currington - Pretty Good at Drinkin' Beer [20:07] i think i'm more like the beer drinker, except instead of beer it's cranberry juice [20:07] (found the vid when I was into my country music phase for a week) [20:07] i'll see how long i can sit through it [20:08] so you are good at drinking cranberry juice? [20:08] i'm getting this show "surviving the cut" [20:08] i am proficient at it [20:10] gotta' remake this song and instead of beer say juice [20:11] of course, i'd need a microphone, and some talent [20:12] i should be helping an old lady cross the street [20:12] quite a few people had beagle boards at SCaLE [20:15] this one's terrible: http://www.smbc-comics.com/?db=comics&id=668#comic [20:15] hey MarkDude [20:15] http://www.coreboot.org/GSoC coreboot is now part of GCoC [20:17] where is GSoC held? [20:17] ohhhh, linux bios [20:17] that's awesome stuff [20:17] like magic! [20:17] twinkie magic :) [20:18] it's not a joke. i am serious. :| [20:19] does Partimus sell systems with coreboot bios? [20:19] partimus doesn't sell systems [20:20] and no, the systems we deploy don't use coreboot [20:23] seiuno, by the end of Summer if not sooner Coreboot will be an option for a few companies aat least [20:24] And yes it IS magic [20:29] * seiuno waves his pen [20:31] i use a cloth napkin when i eat :) [20:35] speaking of magic, i need to build a collection of commands i.e. lego pieces [20:35] i'm not really sure what i want to build. perhaps i should consider trying to take something apart, like empathy or something [20:36] i wish programs were just one long file, i'm sure there is a reason why files need to be separated out [20:47] seiuno, have you seen the learn to program game for kids- it is a great way to jump in [20:53] i've already gotten started, i just haven't gotten finished :) [20:53] MarkDude: is it in the repositories? i'll check it out === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [20:55] i was doing project euler for awhile [20:55] but i got stuck on #8, and haven't been motivated to do it [20:55] i worked on my site a bit last night [20:55] i was looking through my NASA app on my phone called "3D Sun" and notice two massive solar flares before the Japanese Earthquake. Interesting. [20:56] i think i'm going to have to move to a CMS, but i'm not really motivated to use wordpress again. [20:56] a large enough solar flare is the solution to all our problems [20:56] well...maybe [20:57] if rebirth is true... [20:57] one flare on the 10th considered to be a behemoth and another on the 11th which was directed onto the northern hemesphere producing some of the best northern lights seen in years. [20:57] whoa weird, where would everybody end up if there was a solar flare that consumed the whole planet, and rebirth is true? [20:57] i think i am most interested in what happens to me after i die [20:58] and if the answer is nothing, then i am most interested in contented survival [20:58] the end. pass the beans. [20:58] somebody tell my psychiatrist i solved my soul [20:59] im using blogger which i find a bit easier than wordpress for some reason. plus blogger is going to be updating their site within the month to modernize it a great deal. [20:59] i had 2 blogger sites [20:59] this channel is getting way too weird for me. [20:59] i had 3 [20:59] i'm sorry jtatum [20:59] jtatum which part [20:59] i'll leave [20:59] who has two thumbs and makes things weird? [20:59] *this guy* [21:00] i guess it wasnt george washington [21:07] im finding some interesting games for our monthly games night. i will be sending a note to the mailing list after i play some games this weekend :) :) :) research, ya know? [21:38] Geeknic is cancelled [21:39] We will still be meeting at Saxbys tomorrow [21:40] we have some board games - monopoly, connect four, etc as well as a few multiplayer video games also [21:40] who has an extra USB joystick? [21:51] * MarkDude is going on a quick contract- will be done after 6 I think [21:59] fluxbox has crashed on one system here. wont log in anymore [22:01] what time at saxbys === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [23:26] hi akk [23:27] hiya [23:27] They are sending out a press-re-lease - am NOW confirmed as the keynote for ABLEconf [23:27] Hello akk [23:27] hey, haven't seen you in a while, MarkDude [23:27] The more I pay attention to the way you do things [23:28] the more my star rises [23:28] Been really busy helping a friend of mine- she had a reaction to her epilepsy meds [23:28] ow, that doesn't sound good [23:28] Is she okay now? [23:28] SHe is better for the most part [23:29] just dropped a card , plant and some flowers to her house [23:29] As well as a bird feeder for her to help kill some time [23:31] wow that is very nice [23:33] Well she has all sorts of drama going on in her life [23:36] Having a friend come by and bring you stuff when you're sick can be such a lifesaver. [23:56] True [23:57] * MarkDude isheaded to do a contract for a friend- I think it will involve attaching a cable [23:58] Geeknic is cancelled- we are meeting at Saxbys to play some borad games- maybe some cards as well as video games