| fagan | adorilson: it watches for changes and syncs as soon as something new happens | 00:56 |
|---|---|---|
| fagan | like a file changed or added | 00:56 |
| fagan | sorry for taking so long its not a peek hour | 00:57 |
| adorilson | fagan: *when* a file is changed ? | 00:59 |
| adorilson | see my case | 01:00 |
| adorilson | I copied a synced folder to a pendrive. change just one file | 01:00 |
| fagan | if you copy it, it doesnt sync the copy | 01:01 |
| adorilson | and copied this folder to back the desktop | 01:01 |
| fagan | then it should be file | 01:01 |
| fagan | fine | 01:01 |
| fagan | I mean | 01:01 |
| adorilson | in this, its must update all files or just the really changed ? | 01:02 |
| fagan | yeah | 01:02 |
| fagan | was the file always on u1? | 01:03 |
| fagan | I mean folder | 01:04 |
| adorilson | fagan: if I understood you question, the answer is yes | 01:05 |
| adorilson | s/you/your | 01:05 |
| fagan | then what ever is changed unless you replaced the unchanged files | 01:07 |
| fagan | so if you merged the folder you are good | 01:08 |
| adorilson | fagan: I'm sorry. | 01:20 |
| adorilson | you means the unchanged file dont be update? is it? | 01:22 |
| fagan | if its unchanged and not overwritten its not updated | 02:06 |
| adorilson | not. in this case its was overwritten :-/ | 02:07 |
| === statik_ is now known as statik | ||
| fagan | well if it was overwritten it would be synced | 02:13 |
| JamesTait | Happy Red Nose Day! *8OD | 09:45 |
| duanedesign | morning all | 10:30 |
| ralsina | morning duanedesign! | 10:40 |
| fagan | morning | 11:01 |
| duanedesign | hello ralsina, been well? | 11:19 |
| ezra-s | my ubuntuone is not syncing since a while ago, It tries to connect and it says it is syncing some times, but it is not. with u1sdtool -s I get an error: Failure: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Process /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon exited with status 1 | 11:55 |
| ezra-s | help! | 11:55 |
| adorilson | good morning, fagan | 11:58 |
| Chipaca | ezra-s: what's a "while"? | 12:01 |
| Chipaca | ezra-s: and, what ubuntu version are you on? | 12:01 |
| ezra-s | Chipaca, Im in ubuntu 10.10 and for a while, I'd say... since the first whole sync (which was bringing all stuff from the ubuntu one server) it hasn't synced back again, considering I installing this box two months ago | 12:03 |
| gord | hi all, ubuntu one seems to be trying to make me go insane with its "lost connection / connection restored" messages after updating on natty today - server issue or local? - i get a lot of this in my syncdaemon-debug.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/582055/ | 12:04 |
| Chipaca | gord: server issue in that we were having haproxy go nuts, but local issue in that the connection status notifications are too spammy | 12:04 |
| Chipaca | gord: known issues both, the former is now fixed (yay), the latter will be fixed soonish | 12:04 |
| gord | Chipaca, cool, but this is happening right now, how can the former be fixed? | 12:05 |
| Chipaca | gord: you should no longer be seeing the disconnect/reconnect cycles... hm | 12:05 |
| Chipaca | gord: u1sdtool -q; u1sdtool -c (just in case the notifications are backed up) | 12:06 |
| gord | Chipaca, restarted my machine just a few minutes ago (11:57 uk time) and the notifications aren't coming in at a rate that would mean they are backed up in notify-osd | 12:07 |
| Chipaca | ezra-s: not sure what issue you're seeing; I'd recommend waiting an hour or so and asking again (most of the people who know the issues forwards and backwards will be online then). If you're in a hurry, I can help you dig into the issues, but the other would be more effective | 12:07 |
| Chipaca | gord: and you are getting them right now | 12:07 |
| Chipaca | gord: i'm asking because we *just* fixed the issue, the second before you asked your question | 12:07 |
| gord | Chipaca, ohh okay, let me try that command then | 12:08 |
| ralsina | good morning (again) everyone :-) | 12:08 |
| Chipaca | haproxy was all "oh hi nagios, yeah sure, everything is fine!" while also "oh hi file sync client. go away and die i hate you i hate you i hate you" | 12:09 |
| gord | eep, still getting them | 12:09 |
| Chipaca | hmmm | 12:09 |
| ezra-s | Chipaca, thanks, looking thoroughly some files may have been synced, but some folders with files have not for more than a moth and a max of two, since I synced... u1sdtool is a good one but it gives me that error... | 12:09 |
| ezra-s | I think I am going to try remove the box and start again | 12:10 |
| Chipaca | ezra-s: that error isn't an error per se, it's a timeout, and usually indicative of one of several issues that have been fixed. If you're feeling brave, today is a good day to try the nightly build. | 12:10 |
| Chipaca | ezra-s: removing the box won't fix the issue | 12:10 |
| Chipaca | (that fixes something else ... not sure if it fixes *anything* in 10.10. Rye?) | 12:11 |
| ezra-s | hehehe | 12:12 |
| Chipaca | ezra-s: really, unless you're averse to such things, you could move to the nightlies (even if you install them, and then remove the ppa) | 12:12 |
| ezra-s | this is a work laptop, I rather not install nightly builds | 12:13 |
| Chipaca | ezra-s: the speed improvements alone merit it. But, not sure if your music store would continue to work (haven't tested that) | 12:13 |
| Chipaca | ezra-s: fair enough | 12:13 |
| ezra-s | I don't use music store yet | 12:13 |
| Chipaca | ezra-s: then, as i say, hang around for an hour or so | 12:14 |
| ezra-s | thanks for the assistance, will look into it though | 12:14 |
| Chipaca | gord: let's see: u1sdtool -s | grep ^S | 12:15 |
| gord | Chipaca, connection seems to have stabilised after that last one a few minutes ago :) | 12:16 |
| Chipaca | gord: \o/ | 12:16 |
| Chipaca | gord: excellent news, then | 12:16 |
| Chipaca | gord: things still might be quirky as we iron out other glitches | 12:17 |
| Chipaca | ugh, something is still broken | 12:18 |
| Chipaca | rye: ping? | 12:18 |
| === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley | ||
| dobey | we really need to get rid of the connection notifications | 13:30 |
| beuno | yes, thisfred started working on it I think | 13:31 |
| thisfred | dobey: beuno: yep, in progress | 13:31 |
| ralsina | yes, those are way too spammy and don't serve a useful purpose | 13:31 |
| dobey | they might be useful with a lot of work, but they are spammy, and the messages only make sense in one of the many posssible contexts | 13:32 |
| ralsina | the "connection lost" etc. notifications make no sense until we have a real ubuntuone availavility service | 13:33 |
| ralsina | Then we can stop trying to connect when the server is known to be down. | 13:34 |
| ralsina | And we won't spam the user so much. Also, it makes no sense to notify the user the connection was lost when all connectivity was lost. | 13:34 |
| ralsina | So, when is it worth notifying that we lost connection to the server? I have no idea. | 13:35 |
| beuno | or even connected? | 13:35 |
| beuno | maybe we just drop connect/disconnect notifications? | 13:35 |
| dobey | ralsina: what good is an availability service if you can't connect to it? :) | 13:36 |
| ralsina | beuno: dobey, it's a simple service, where we can say "we know it's down, stop trying" | 13:36 |
| ralsina | oops, that was for dobey :-) | 13:36 |
| ralsina | dobey: could be a static web page for all we care | 13:36 |
| dobey | sd is already supposed to stop trying | 13:37 |
| dobey | it doesn't seem to stop any more though, so i guess it's probably a bug | 13:37 |
| ralsina | sd: well, it doesn't, or we wouldn't get spammy notifications, would we? ;-) | 13:37 |
| dobey | well, if it keeps connecting successfully and THEN losing connection, it would be spammy | 13:38 |
| ralsina | dobey: and we could prevent that with the availability service. | 13:38 |
| dobey | i haven't looked at the logs, but i presume that's what is happening since it's saying "the connection was restored" | 13:39 |
| ralsina | We could even put a warning icon in launcher and then inform the user of scheduled maintenance, etc. | 13:39 |
| dobey | or heuristics | 13:39 |
| ralsina | dobey: the problem with heuristics is that they work until they don't. I prefer low-tech solutions if they are easy. | 13:39 |
| ralsina | dobey: and not too much work. | 13:39 |
| dobey | somehow i doubt that my waking up on friday morning to notification spam from u1 is "scheduled downtime" :) | 13:40 |
| thisfred | ralsina, dobey, beuno, alecu so we drop the (dis)connection notifications altogether? | 13:41 |
| ralsina | alecu is out doing paperwork | 13:41 |
| dobey | thisfred: please! | 13:41 |
| thisfred | I think they are useful in the middle of a transfer | 13:41 |
| ralsina | thisfred: why? What can the user do? | 13:41 |
| thisfred | but I'm happy to take them out | 13:41 |
| ralsina | "the connection dropped". Ok, I will tell it to reconnect (oh, wait it reconnects automatically, and then resumes uploads, so...) | 13:42 |
| dobey | thisfred: interrupted transfer should say "oops the transfer was interrupted" in that case or something maybe, but the current connection notifications are totally broken | 13:42 |
| thisfred | ralsina: reconnect to the wireless if that's the problem, or at least know that the download/upload is incomplete and will remain so until the connection is made again\ | 13:42 |
| ralsina | thisfred: the user should get a wireless disconnect notification from Network Manager, I assume | 13:42 |
| dobey | thisfred: if wifi was dropped then network manager notifies | 13:42 |
| thisfred | ok, I'll take them out | 13:43 |
| thisfred | happy happy joy joy | 13:43 |
| ralsina | thisfred: so, if the user is at the keyboard, he will know the network is down and fix it. If he is not, then he won't see our notification either. Comment it out :) | 13:43 |
| dobey | and the progress bar on the launcher will presumably also not go away if things aren't done | 13:43 |
| thisfred | no commenting out of code, ever | 13:43 |
| thisfred | DELETE! | 13:43 |
| thisfred | dobey: correct | 13:44 |
| ralsina | dobey: the progress bar is small enough that for large files progress is not really visible. | 13:44 |
| ralsina | thisfred: ok ok nuke it | 13:44 |
| dobey | ralsina: i think "has not changed in 6 hours" is pretty visible | 13:44 |
| thisfred | ralsina: well, it *will* show a disconnected emblem when disconnected | 13:44 |
| thisfred | there I go | 13:44 |
| ralsina | dobey: that assumes so many things the user would have to know it's not even funny :-) | 13:44 |
| ralsina | thisfred: cool, then the notif. is doublpy useless :-) | 13:45 |
| dobey | well they would have to know they are using u1 and that the progress bar is there | 13:45 |
| dobey | but whatever | 13:45 |
| ralsina | dobey: for example, is that bar showing the same upload as 6 hours ago? | 13:45 |
| dobey | well if you've been staring at it for 6 hours, probably | 13:45 |
| ralsina | dobey: also, since the launcher is hidden when you have maximized windows, it assumes you actually *see* the progress bar | 13:45 |
| * ralsina has not seen the launcher this morning yet | 13:46 | |
| dobey | then how do you see the disconnected emblem? :) | 13:48 |
| ralsina | dobey: I don't think the user should care about it | 13:50 |
| ralsina | dobey: unless he's trying to diagnose what's not working | 13:51 |
| thisfred | ralsina: dobey https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-client/lp-737150/+merge/53989 | 13:51 |
| thisfred | that removes the notifications | 13:51 |
| ralsina | thisfred: ok, will check it as soon as there's a diff | 13:51 |
| ralsina | dobey: u1 should just work, right? That's our goal. The user should operate under the assumption that as long as he has network he has u1 connected. | 13:52 |
| dobey | there are two things to that. working and verifibility. the latter is what makes doing good UI that suits everyone's needs hard to do | 13:56 |
| thisfred | well the user has a place to check, if they bring up the unity menu. An indicator would be better, but that ship has sailed and was burned. | 13:57 |
| mandel | me | 14:02 |
| thisfred | me | 14:02 |
| ralsina | me | 14:03 |
| dobey | me | 14:03 |
| ralsina | alecu is not here for the standup today, so mandel, go ahead | 14:03 |
| mandel | DONE: Bug triagging. More SSO UI. Added Logic for UI validation, but I need to add a branch that shares de logic between gtk and qt. | 14:03 |
| mandel | TODO: Fix some UI things like look horrible. The above mentioned branch. | 14:03 |
| mandel | BLOCKED: No | 14:03 |
| mandel | thisfred, please | 14:03 |
| thisfred | * INPROGRESS get ubuntuone-couch into natty [1/2] | 14:03 |
| thisfred | - [X] 0.2.0 https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-couch/release-0.2.0/+merge/53317 | 14:03 |
| thisfred | - [ ] ubuntuone-couch FFE http://pad.lv/729117 | 14:03 |
| thisfred | * NEEDSREVIEW dbus activation of control panel http://pad.lv/728722 https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-control-panel/dbusify/+merge/53854 | 14:03 |
| thisfred | * NEEDSREVIEW remove (dis)connection notifications http://pad.lv/734895 http://pad.lv/737150 https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-client/lp-737150/+merge/53989 | 14:03 |
| thisfred | * INPROGRESS notifications/alerts of quota events http://pad.lv/702172 https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-client/quota-notifications | 14:03 |
| thisfred | * TODO assist in couchdb migration | 14:04 |
| thisfred | NEXT: ralsina | 14:04 |
| ralsina | DONE: 3 hours of phone calls, reviews, admin work | 14:04 |
| ralsina | TODO: prepare for a release, ask for testers, start evaluations | 14:04 |
| ralsina | BLOCKED: only in my mind | 14:04 |
| ralsina | dobey? | 14:04 |
| dobey | λ DONE: bug #596394, bug #727558 | 14:06 |
| dobey | λ TODO: bug #733327 | 14:06 |
| dobey | λ BLCK: My brain hurts. | 14:06 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 596394 in libubuntuone (Ubuntu) (and 4 other projects) "False "Internet connection is required to access the music store" message (affects: 12) (dups: 1) (heat: 58)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/596394 | 14:06 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 727558 in libubuntuone (Ubuntu Natty) (and 3 other projects) "Need to notify user when Purchased Music folder is not subscribed (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 14)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727558 | 14:06 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 733327 in libubuntuone (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Notify user of missing MP3 support (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/733327 | 14:06 |
| ralsina | ok, comments? | 14:06 |
| thisfred | I'd like reviews on my two proposals :) | 14:08 |
| dobey | thisfred: me too | 14:08 |
| ralsina | thisfred: I am about to give you one :-) | 14:08 |
| thisfred | hehe | 14:08 |
| ralsina | dobey: I approved one this morning | 14:08 |
| thisfred | dobey: I'll get on them | 14:08 |
| dobey | ralsina: yeah, now it needs one more review :) | 14:09 |
| ralsina | thisfred: +1 on lp-737150 | 14:10 |
| ralsina | thisfred: you have another one? | 14:10 |
| thisfred | thx | 14:10 |
| thisfred | ralsina: yep: https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-control-panel/dbusify/+merge/53854 | 14:10 |
| thisfred | dobey: warn-unsubscribed or the vapi-build one too? (I'm pretty sure I'll be useless on that one, unless you want a rubberstamp) | 14:11 |
| dobey | warn-unsubscribed | 14:12 |
| ralsina | thisfred: dbusify is about starting the control panel? | 14:14 |
| * ralsina needs context sometimes | 14:14 | |
| thisfred | ralsina: yeah, it adds the service.in, but it also makes sure we start the control panel only once | 14:14 |
| ralsina | thisfred: ok | 14:14 |
| thisfred | dobey: I do not see the warning in banshee on natty | 14:40 |
| thisfred | maybe I'm looking in the wrong place though | 14:41 |
| thisfred | where should it be? | 14:42 |
| thisfred | I do see a warning in the terminal: No feature manager for feature of type U1RequestChrome | 14:43 |
| dobey | libraries page | 14:45 |
| dobey | "My Downloads" or whatever it is | 14:45 |
| thisfred | I don't think I have that | 14:45 |
| dobey | so it only shows up there, instead of everywhere | 14:45 |
| dobey | sure you do, it's in the top nav bar of the music store, toward the right | 14:46 |
| thisfred | oh ok, I thought it was an entry under the Libraries in the banshee tree on the left | 14:46 |
| dobey | ah no, sorry | 14:46 |
| thisfred | dobey: yep, it shows up! approving | 14:47 |
| dobey | and it goes away if you subscribe by any means | 14:47 |
| thisfred | dobey: could you please look at my two branches as well? Especially the notifications one would be good to get into nightlies | 14:48 |
| dobey | well ralsina wanted a release today | 14:48 |
| dobey | so should go into that :) | 14:48 |
| ralsina | yes, I would love to have one | 14:48 |
| dobey | thisfred: notifications one is approved | 14:50 |
| thisfred | awesome | 14:50 |
| dobey | alright, lunch time | 15:31 |
| dobey | hrmm, which page should i put the mp3 codec install bit on in the music store | 17:14 |
| alecu | hello #ubuntuone! | 17:26 |
| ralsina | hello alecu! | 17:28 |
| ralsina | how did the trámites go? | 17:28 |
| alecu | ralsina, lots of queues, lots of waiting, but now we own a car. | 17:35 |
| ralsina | alecu: congrats. You going by car to pycamp? | 17:35 |
| alecu | ralsina, don't know how to drive! my wife will be using it. | 17:35 |
| ralsina | hahaha | 17:35 |
| alecu | ralsina, also: she needs some practice still. | 17:36 |
| ralsina | I am probably buying one in a couple of months, for the same reason, and I also can't drive | 17:36 |
| alecu | but I have my bus tickets for pycamp ready | 17:36 |
| alecu | ralsina, we should learn to drive. UDS at the US of A are very boring otherwise :-) | 17:37 |
| ralsina | yep, I will take lessons some day | 17:37 |
| ralsina | Oh, and talking about trips, I need to book *more* tickets to london | 17:38 |
| * alecu is trying to make sense of the monospaced block of gibberish that the travel agent sent. | 17:39 | |
| dobey | oh yeah, i should do london tickets too | 17:39 |
| ralsina | What, your teletype broke? :-) | 17:39 |
| * alecu wonders if his gnome-terminal looks like that to non-coders | 17:39 | |
| * ralsina got his travel info by TELEX and it looks as expected | 17:39 | |
| alecu | ralsina, perhaps I can get a review on this trivial branch... | 17:41 |
| alecu | https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntuone-control-panel/the-outer-limits/+merge/53946 | 17:41 |
| ralsina | whoa, this is just super cool, even if it's a bit overcomplicated for real life: http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2011/03/18/multi-process-lighthouse/ | 17:41 |
| ralsina | alecu: por supus | 17:41 |
| ralsina | +1 | 17:42 |
| === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch | ||
| dobey | huh | 17:53 |
| verterok | oh, london tickets! | 18:00 |
| dobey | heh | 18:06 |
| thisfred | alecu: don't know if you caught that, but the (dis)connection notifications are now gone altogether | 18:38 |
| alecu | thisfred, didn't caught that. | 18:39 |
| alecu | thisfred, we are ditching them for good? | 18:40 |
| alecu | thisfred, I read yesterday backlog, and it looked like they irked our space commander. | 18:40 |
| thisfred | alecu: after some quick discussion that's what it looks like: | 18:40 |
| thisfred | alecu: right, and today even more | 18:40 |
| thisfred | as the servers are burning | 18:40 |
| thisfred | alecu: I filed a bug to throttle them, but then ralsina made the point that there is nothing the user can or should do in response | 18:41 |
| thisfred | so the information is not that useful. And the launcher still will show the warning emblem if downloads were in progress | 18:41 |
| alecu | right | 18:42 |
| ralsina | space commander? | 18:42 |
| alecu | thisfred, so, is there a bug for this? | 18:42 |
| alecu | ralsina, yup, the commander of our spaceship. | 18:42 |
| thisfred | alecu yep | 18:42 |
| alecu | ralsina, the self appointed benevolent dictator for life! | 18:42 |
| thisfred | ralsina http://futurama.wikia.com/wiki/Zapp_Brannigan | 18:42 |
| * thisfred starts looking at job postings ;) | 18:43 | |
| ralsina | Zapp branigan works at Canonical? Yeah! :-) | 18:43 |
| === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno | ||
| alecu | hahaha | 18:44 |
| thisfred | alecu: bug #737150 and bug #734895 | 18:44 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 737150 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Connected/disconnected notifications need to be removed. (dup-of: 734895)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/737150 | 18:44 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 734895 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "connection restored notification is pointless (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 20)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/734895 | 18:44 |
| alecu | great | 18:44 |
| alecu | thisfred, ralsina: that sounds like a very needed fix for our current issue. | 18:46 |
| alecu | thisfred, ralsina: will we release a package with this soonish? | 18:46 |
| ralsina | well, it's supposed to be merged already | 18:46 |
| ralsina | alecu: today, if dobey makes it | 18:47 |
| thisfred | it is merged and a release is being cut as we speak | 18:47 |
| ralsina | see alecu, desktop+ rolls on while you are buying cars :-) | 18:47 |
| alecu | cool! | 18:47 |
| dobey | with what? | 18:48 |
| dobey | ah notifications | 18:48 |
| dobey | is in 1.5.7 yes | 18:48 |
| alecu | and now, for insurance.... Yet more paperwork! | 19:22 |
| dobey | ralsina: just uploaded ubuntuone-client 1.5.7 to ubuntu | 19:49 |
| ralsina | dobey: cool, man! | 19:50 |
| dobey | ralsina: you have a working fix for the rhythmbox extension? | 19:54 |
| ralsina | dobey: it turns out I don't | 19:54 |
| ralsina | dobey: I thought I had it, but I get random segfaults | 19:55 |
| dobey | weird | 19:55 |
| dobey | well i'll just do libu1 and control panel then | 19:56 |
| ralsina | ok | 19:56 |
| ralsina | if I can't fix it on the weekend I'll ask you for a hand with it | 19:56 |
| dobey | i was planning to look at it, as soon as the banshee things are up to par | 19:57 |
| dobey | which should be soon i hope :) | 19:57 |
| ralsina | yay! | 19:58 |
| ralsina | I ended almost rewriting the plugin because it was very different from the other plugins that came with RB | 19:58 |
| ralsina | different file structure, class naming, etc. | 19:58 |
| dobey | right | 19:58 |
| dobey | a lot of the cruft will be removable next week anyway | 19:58 |
| dobey | ralsina: did you ever actually review thisfred's dbusify branch? | 19:59 |
| dobey | also a second review of https://code.launchpad.net/~evfool/ubuntuone-control-panel/fix729530/+merge/53329 would be nice | 20:00 |
| ralsina | dobey: I didn't approve it because I didn't want it to merge yet | 20:00 |
| ralsina | I'll approve it now | 20:00 |
| dobey | why did you not want it to merge? | 20:00 |
| thisfred | dobey: I think alecu should do the second review on that one | 20:00 |
| ralsina | ok, it's silly but I was waiting for the release | 20:01 |
| alecu | will do. | 20:01 |
| ralsina | it's +1 already but if alecu wants to take a look too it's fine :-) | 20:01 |
| dobey | ralsina: you're afraid to put it in the release? | 20:01 |
| thisfred | alecu: it's simple enough, but it's a community contribution, and I want to make sure it's in line with what we want | 20:01 |
| alecu | thisfred, second review of the dbusify branch? | 20:01 |
| ralsina | dobey: I know it wouldn'tgo in before it got marked as Approved, but it's just that I prioritized it for "later" | 20:01 |
| thisfred | alecu: no the evfool one | 20:02 |
| alecu | ok, will do | 20:02 |
| ralsina | thisfred: oh, evfool I didn'tcheck | 20:02 |
| * ralsina has a list, and he checks it twice | 20:02 | |
| dobey | thisfred: all it does is change the default size to be what was specified, instead of requesting -1 as the width (which really doesn't make any sense to me why it did that anywya) | 20:02 |
| thisfred | dobey: I don't know enough about it to even know that it doesn't make sense | 20:03 |
| alecu | there's a comment on that line, with a different bug # | 20:03 |
| alecu | bug #683164 | 20:03 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 683164 in ubuntuone-control-panel (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Maximum sizes for window and banner (affects: 1) (heat: 32)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683164 | 20:03 |
| dobey | alecu: yes, that was put there previously by nessita | 20:04 |
| dobey | alecu: i think because that bug is about the window's default size | 20:04 |
| dobey | alecu: nothing there explains why she set it to -1, 525 though | 20:04 |
| dobey | i think the -1 might be from when we were arguing about how to make resizing work correctly | 20:04 |
| dobey | thisfred: is there any good reason to not put your branch in the release? | 20:08 |
| thisfred | dobey: nothing compelling, just that it makes the panel switching not work when the control-panel is already open | 20:09 |
| dobey | thisfred: will that break the existing unity integration? | 20:09 |
| thisfred | but neither does it add anything super useful, so that's why I wanted to hold off on it | 20:09 |
| thisfred | dobey: when we open the control panel from the msging menu, and it's already open, it won't flip to the shares panel. | 20:10 |
| thisfred | that's not unity, but yes it breaks | 20:10 |
| dobey | thisfred: or raise it i guess | 20:10 |
| dobey | well messaging indicator is unity | 20:10 |
| dobey | so yes :) | 20:11 |
| thisfred | it would rause it I think | 20:11 |
| thisfred | raise | 20:11 |
| thisfred | anyway, let's not and let's make it all work for the next one? | 20:11 |
| dobey | yes, don't set it to approved yet | 20:11 |
| thisfred | ok | 20:11 |
| dobey | also no, it won't raise the existing control panel because you didn't actually implement a service which does a window.present() if it's already running | 20:12 |
| alecu | thisfred, why is there a print "YES" here? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntuone-control-tower/ubuntuone-control-panel/trunk/revision/94 | 20:12 |
| dobey | someone left a debugging statement in | 20:13 |
| thisfred | that would be me | 20:13 |
| thisfred | argh | 20:13 |
| thisfred | ok, fix branch coming up | 20:14 |
| dobey | make it snappy | 20:14 |
| alecu | hmmm.... after reading about set_size_request, I'm uneasy of it ever being in the code. | 20:17 |
| alecu | let's try testing irl. | 20:17 |
| thisfred | alecu: dobey https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-control-panel/remove-debug-print/+merge/54066 | 20:17 |
| kavurt | how can I upload a song to my ipod? | 20:18 |
| dobey | kavurt: #ubuntu is the channel for help about ubuntu | 20:20 |
| kavurt | i know dobey. how can i upload a song from ubuntu to ipod? | 20:21 |
| alecu | approved evfool branch | 20:23 |
| thisfred | kavurt: *this* is not the #ubuntu channel ;) | 20:24 |
| ralsina | kavurt on the other hand, if your song is synced with ubuntu one, you can get our iphone app :-) | 20:24 |
| kavurt | oh sorry | 20:24 |
| alecu | thisfred, approved print removal branch | 20:25 |
| thisfred | thx set to approved | 20:25 |
| thisfred | I should find debug statements that also make the tests fail | 20:26 |
| Plecebo | Is it usual for U1 to take a very long time to download purchased music. Sometimes it is taking several hours per CD to download. Where as with Amazon etc I get the purchase in 30 seconds or less. | 20:33 |
| beuno | Plecebo, it is not normal, no | 20:34 |
| beuno | are they available on the u1 web ui? | 20:34 |
| Plecebo | yes | 20:34 |
| Plecebo | If I log into the u1 website I can see and download them that way, but I have to dl each song individually | 20:35 |
| beuno | Plecebo, so there's probably something wrong with your desktop client | 20:35 |
| beuno | is it connected? | 20:35 |
| Plecebo | It has downloaded 20 of the 36 tracks on the album, so I'd assume so | 20:35 |
| Plecebo | that has taken approx 30 minutes | 20:35 |
| Plecebo | and seems stalled now | 20:36 |
| beuno | Plecebo, can you run this in a terminal: u1sdtools -s | 20:36 |
| Plecebo | comand not found | 20:36 |
| dobey | u1sdtool -s | 20:37 |
| Plecebo | State: READY | 20:37 |
| Plecebo | connection: Not User With Network | 20:37 |
| Plecebo | description: ready to connect | 20:37 |
| Plecebo | is_connected: False | 20:37 |
| Plecebo | is_error: False | 20:37 |
| Plecebo | is_online: False | 20:37 |
| Plecebo | queues: WORKING_ON_BOTH | 20:37 |
| beuno | Plecebo, right, it's not connected | 20:38 |
| beuno | what Ubuntu version are you running? | 20:38 |
| Plecebo | 10.10 | 20:38 |
| beuno | Plecebo, you should be able to connect just by running: u1sdtool -c | 20:38 |
| beuno | or opening the u1 app and clicking on connect | 20:38 |
| Plecebo | the is_online is what is telling you it is not connected? or the connection part? | 20:38 |
| dobey | both | 20:39 |
| Plecebo | looks to be connected now | 20:39 |
| Plecebo | looks to be downloading now as well | 20:40 |
| beuno | great | 20:40 |
| beuno | a lot of this is more polished in Natty (dealing with connect/disconnect) | 20:41 |
| Plecebo | So i'm making these purchases via the banshee plugin, how can I make sure the connection stays up for next time | 20:41 |
| Plecebo | is it? I'm excited to see what improvements have been made :) | 20:41 |
| beuno | it normally does stay up | 20:41 |
| Plecebo | thanks a lot for your help | 20:41 |
| Plecebo | this seems to be rather common for me | 20:41 |
| beuno | if you're an adventurer, you can you our daily builds | 20:41 |
| beuno | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuone/+archive/nightlies | 20:41 |
| Plecebo | when purchasing via u1 | 20:42 |
| kenvandine | thisfred, ubuntuone-couch is creating an empty package | 20:42 |
| kenvandine | thisfred, W: ubuntuone-couch: empty-binary-package | 20:42 |
| kenvandine | thisfred, otherwise it looks great :) | 20:42 |
| thisfred | kenvandine: hehe | 20:42 |
| thisfred | Hmm. How can that be. | 20:42 |
| Plecebo | beuno, thanks, I may just look into that | 20:42 |
| Plecebo | beuno, thanks again for your help | 20:43 |
| dobey | beuno, Plecebo: there is an update pending in maverick-proposed as well that might help | 20:43 |
| thisfred | I must have missed one step or something | 20:43 |
| beuno | Plecebo, no problem | 20:43 |
| beuno | kenvandine, thisfred is a very minimalistic guy | 20:43 |
| kenvandine | hehe | 20:43 |
| kenvandine | thisfred, i assume from dropping pysupport | 20:43 |
| thisfred | It's true, I thought this way we'd get the FFE through, and then we can do the malware injection during string freeze | 20:43 |
| kenvandine | haha | 20:44 |
| thisfred | kenvandine: Ah yeah, I only tested that it made a package which was installable. Actually checking that the binaries were there would have been good :) | 20:44 |
| dobey | kenvandine: if you wouldn't mind sponsoring https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntu/natty/libubuntuone/release-0-9-1/+merge/54070 too that would be nice :) | 20:46 |
| thisfred | kenvandine: pushed a version with python-support reinstated, but I'll test here | 20:52 |
| kenvandine | dobey, i'll try to look in a bit... i need to eod soon :) | 20:55 |
| kenvandine | thisfred, you need to change it in debian/rules too | 20:55 |
| thisfred | ah | 20:56 |
| dobey | kenvandine: yeah me too. i will have an ubuntuone-control-panel release proposed soon too. as soon as this one other branch lands so i can do the tarball | 20:59 |
| kenvandine | dobey, working on it now | 20:59 |
| dobey | thanks | 20:59 |
| dobey | wow it is 81F right now here | 21:00 |
| kenvandine | yeah, 83 here | 21:01 |
| kenvandine | too damn hot :) | 21:01 |
| thisfred | kenvandine: works now, at least OMM ;) | 21:05 |
| kenvandine | :) | 21:05 |
| thisfred | pushed the rules fix | 21:05 |
| thisfred | 81 here too, welcome spring! | 21:05 |
| kenvandine | thisfred, so how do i figure out what urlpath to use? | 21:06 |
| thisfred | kenvandine: u1couchquery contacts should work | 21:07 |
| thisfred | you don't need the url, just the db name | 21:07 |
| thisfred | for u1oauthrequest let me check what a good test url is | 21:08 |
| kenvandine | thisfred, can i change records with this? | 21:08 |
| thisfred | u1oauthrequest https://one.ubuntu.com/api/account/ | 21:08 |
| * kenvandine wants to delete the 20K bookmarks i have | 21:08 | |
| kenvandine | so i can actually use bindwood again | 21:08 |
| thisfred | kenvandine: sure can, by using PUT POST or DELETE | 21:08 |
| * kenvandine thinks there should be a man page :) | 21:09 | |
| kenvandine | can i delete the whole db? | 21:09 |
| thisfred | there is a --help, but yes, there should be | 21:09 |
| kenvandine | bookmarks | 21:09 |
| dobey | i bet lint thinks there should be a man page too | 21:09 |
| kenvandine | thisfred, the --help doesn't really tell you how to use it | 21:10 |
| kenvandine | :) | 21:10 |
| thisfred | kenvandine: yes you can, BUT you have to do it locally and remotely, before the next replication happens | 21:10 |
| kenvandine | i got bit by the firefox live bookmarks bug in bindwood before it was ever released | 21:10 |
| thisfred | kenvandine: right, documentation is on the roadmap of the API team. Which is aquarius :) | 21:10 |
| kenvandine | haven't been able to use it since | 21:10 |
| thisfred | kenvandine: so if you just remove the db remotely, replication will put it back | 21:11 |
| thisfred | same for locally | 21:11 |
| thisfred | if you do both between replications, they'll stay gone | 21:11 |
| dobey | thisfred: i guess you have to do it on ALL machines before replication? | 21:12 |
| * kenvandine has no machines with desktopcouch atm | 21:12 | |
| thisfred | dobey: yeah | 21:12 |
| thisfred | that's the painful part | 21:12 |
| thisfred | kenvandine: then doing it remotely will work | 21:12 |
| kenvandine | ok, can you give me an example then? | 21:12 |
| thisfred | to delete the bookmarks? | 21:13 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 21:13 |
| thisfred | u1couchquery --http-method=DELETE bookmarks | 21:14 |
| thisfred | use with care :) | 21:14 |
| kenvandine | done... yay! | 21:15 |
| thisfred | :) | 21:15 |
| kenvandine | maybe i can install bindwood and desktopcouch again :) | 21:15 |
| thisfred | james-h is making bindwood super-excellent | 21:16 |
| kenvandine | dobey, uploaded | 21:16 |
| kenvandine | thisfred, ok, if this thing builds in pbuilder, i'm uploading | 21:19 |
| kenvandine | :) | 21:19 |
| thisfred | wheee :) | 21:19 |
| thisfred | that'll be my first packaging effort that makes it into universe. I feel celebratory beer coming on. | 21:20 |
| * thisfred is jinxing it | 21:20 | |
| kenvandine | :) | 21:21 |
| kenvandine | did you guys like just take down the server? | 21:21 |
| kenvandine | getting a 503 now | 21:21 |
| kenvandine | status:503, response: '<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">\n<html><head>\n<title>503 Service Temporarily Unavailable</title>\n</head><body>\n<h1>Service Temporarily Unavailable</h1>\n<p>The server is temporarily unable to service your\nrequest due to maintenance downtime or capacity\nproblems. Please try again later.</p>\n<hr>\n<address>Apache/2.2.14 (Ubuntu) Server at couchdb.one.ubuntu.com Port 443</address>\n</body></h | 21:21 |
| kenvandine | tml>\n' | 21:21 |
| dobey | why did you crash the server ken | 21:21 |
| kenvandine | or did me deleting my bookmarks crash it :) | 21:21 |
| dobey | that's not cool | 21:21 |
| kenvandine | nice error message from a cli tool :-D | 21:21 |
| * kenvandine ducks | 21:21 | |
| dobey | well we were just going to have people use telnet | 21:22 |
| kenvandine | oh, i only get that querying my gwibber-messages db | 21:22 |
| dobey | but we decided people just aren't knowledgeable enough about the web to use it | 21:22 |
| kenvandine | still works for my other dbs though | 21:23 |
| dobey | oh that makes sense | 21:23 |
| dobey | gwibber-messages is evil | 21:23 |
| kenvandine | thisfred, uploaded | 21:24 |
| kenvandine | ok... eod for me... later folks! | 21:24 |
| thisfred | kenvandine: you rock, thanks! | 21:24 |
| thisfred | have a great weekend | 21:24 |
| dobey | cheers kenvandine | 21:28 |
| dobey | have a good weekend all. later | 21:29 |
| kenvandine | thisfred, i pushed the branch to lp:~ken-vandine/ubuntu/natty/ubuntuone-couch/ubuntu | 21:33 |
| kenvandine | until i can create lp:ubuntu/ubuntuone-couch | 21:33 |
| kenvandine | thisfred, i had reformated the changelog a little and added the FFE bug | 21:33 |
| thisfred | great, there's nothing I have to do except wait then right? | 21:33 |
| kenvandine | so you should merge that back into your's | 21:33 |
| thisfred | ok, will do | 21:33 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 21:33 |
| kenvandine | or prod an archive admin to approve it | 21:34 |
| kenvandine | it is in sourceNEW | 21:34 |
| kenvandine | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text= | 21:35 |
| kenvandine | once someone approves it there | 21:35 |
| kenvandine | and it builds | 21:35 |
| kenvandine | someone will need to binNEW it | 21:35 |
| kenvandine | so the binary makes it to the archive | 21:35 |
| thisfred | I will keep an eye on it | 21:36 |
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