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| curry | how can i assign a specific size to my display? | 05:26 |
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| curry | the one i want is not in the list . . . | 05:26 |
| jarnos | I don't see any network manager in tray in xubuntu 10.10. | 08:42 |
| Sysi | alt+F2 "nm-applet" | 08:42 |
| jarnos | Sysi, it does not help. "nm-applet --sm-disable" is running already, but is not shown in tray. It is not marked as hidden in tray properties. | 08:55 |
| Sysi | are any other items visible? | 08:57 |
| Sysi | adn what xubuntu/xfce version? | 08:57 |
| jarnos | Sysi, yes, see above | 08:59 |
| Sysi | ahem, what? | 09:00 |
| jarnos | Sysi, what do you mean be ahem? | 09:00 |
| jarnos | by ahem | 09:00 |
| Sysi | what above? | 09:00 |
| jarnos | Sysi, I don't see any network manager in tray in xubuntu 10.10. | 09:01 |
| Sysi | ah, sorry, just woke up | 09:01 |
| Sysi | have you tried relogging/rebooting? | 09:01 |
| jarnos | Sysi, I tried relogging | 09:02 |
| jarnos | Sysi, I'll try rebooting. | 09:02 |
| andrew2 | hello, i'm having some trouble getting compiz to show window borders on xubuntu 10.10, can anyone please help me? | 09:05 |
| Sysi | install emerald and set it to use it | 09:06 |
| Sysi | or what was the other one.. | 09:06 |
| andrew2 | allright, i've installed emerald | 09:07 |
| andrew2 | what exactly should i be doing next? | 09:08 |
| jarnos | Sysi, rebooting did not help. | 09:08 |
| Sysi | andrew2: go to compiz settings -> window borders | 09:08 |
| Sysi | jarnos: hum, weird | 09:09 |
| andrew2 | i'm there | 09:09 |
| Sysi | jarnos: are you using the default icon theme? | 09:09 |
| Sysi | andrew2: "there's /usr/bin/xfwm" somewhere, replace with "emerald" | 09:10 |
| andrew2 | thanks Sysi that did the trick | 09:11 |
| Sysi | np | 09:11 |
| jarnos | Sysi, I have not changed it. But I installed xubuntu in non-default way: I installed by ubuntu minimal cd (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD), and then xfce by "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop", if I recall correctly. | 09:13 |
| jarnos | I also can't start synaptic package manager, since it does not accept my password. | 09:14 |
| Sysi | rm -rf ~/.gnome2/keyrings/ | 09:15 |
| Sysi | try installing gnome-icon-theme | 09:15 |
| jarnos | Sysi, it does not help at least without further actions. | 09:18 |
| Sysi | hum, there's filed bug about nm-applet not working on kubuntu but then it didn't even start | 09:18 |
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| lee026 | hello? | 09:37 |
| Sysi | !hi | 09:37 |
| ubottu | Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! | 09:37 |
| jarnos | Odd thing is that it does not accept my password, when the application is started from xfce menu. But if I start it by gksudo in terminal, it will accept my password. | 09:38 |
| jarnos | Sysi, what is the purpose of those keyrings you told me to delete? Will they be created again some time? | 09:40 |
| lee026 | well thanks for being here | 09:40 |
| lee026 | need to see the news but i will check back | 09:41 |
| Sysi | jarnos: it removes old paaswd, new one is asked next time you're trying to use keyring | 09:42 |
| jarnos | Sysi, did you note the above? | 09:43 |
| Sysi | with menu? yes | 09:43 |
| Sysi | really weird problems | 09:45 |
| jarnos | Sysi, the difference is that when starting from the menu, gksu is used instead of gksudo. | 09:46 |
| Sysi | in ubuntu they should do the same thing | 09:46 |
| jarnos | Sysi, yes, gksudo is symbolic link to gksu, but "gksu synaptic" does not allow me to use it, "gksudo synaptic" allows. | 09:53 |
| Sysi | i don't get how is that even possible | 09:55 |
| jarnos | Sysi, same for e.g. mousepad, gksudo works, but gksu tells password is incorrect. | 10:09 |
| Sysi | do you have authentication settings or something in menu? you could also try removing gksu, if there is such package | 10:11 |
| jarnos | Sysi, I don't see such settings. Removing gksu would remove e.g. network-manager-gnome and update-manager, and would install tens of new packages. | 10:20 |
| Sysi | hum | 10:21 |
| Maxs21r | hi all | 10:24 |
| jarnos | Sysi, maybe the network manager problem is connected to gksu problem. | 10:26 |
| Sysi | could be | 10:26 |
| nicofs | Where should i go if i have issues with natty? | 15:07 |
| knome | #ubuntu+1 | 15:07 |
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| drc | In the Settings manager>Mouse>Devices there is a <Reset to Defaults> button, but it apparently resets the defaults for Devices only (i.e., not Behavior, which has no reset option). Anyone know offhand what the default settings for Behavior are? | 15:14 |
| charlie-tca | drc: which version? | 15:16 |
| charlie-tca | xubuntu version? | 15:16 |
| drc | 10.10, 4.6.2 Is that the versions you mean? | 15:17 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 15:17 |
| charlie-tca | let me bring up 10.10 and look | 15:17 |
| * drc boggles at the power of having multiple versions available :) | 15:18 | |
| charlie-tca | I have every version available here, with 386 on hardware and all ubuntu and xubuntu releases in VBox | 15:19 |
| charlie-tca | I just haven't run installs on all them yet | 15:19 |
| charlie-tca | It is a bit slow, getting them to run | 15:20 |
| charlie-tca | drc: I also run at least three computers at once, since I do a lot of testing | 15:21 |
| charlie-tca | okay | 15:22 |
| charlie-tca | mouse behavior: Threshold = 8, Time = 250, Distance = 5 | 15:22 |
| charlie-tca | Devices tab: Acceleration = 2.0, threshold = 4 | 15:23 |
| drc | Gave up multiple computers a few years ago (when my youngest daughter started running several boxes...only one geek in a household) | 15:23 |
| drc | Thanks | 15:23 |
| charlie-tca | You are welcome | 15:23 |
| drc | I should know better than changing defaults without recording them | 15:24 |
| charlie-tca | It is necessary, since I run the development version on my daily system. I keep a 10.04 box for when development version crashes | 15:24 |
| drc | But I was seduced by the <Reset to Defaults> and wishful thinking | 15:24 |
| charlie-tca | such things happen | 15:25 |
| charlie-tca | I haven't touched 10.10 since it released | 15:25 |
| charlie-tca | I really like Natty, with xfce 4.8 | 15:26 |
| drc | and I can't get 11.04 to install (well, U, not X..haven't tried that...yet) | 15:26 |
| charlie-tca | images are working today, at least Xubuntu is. I will be running Ubuntu images in a bit | 15:26 |
| charlie-tca | both 386 and amd64 desktop images installed today | 15:27 |
| drc | Can it do a USB install? Last time I tried (with U), it got to a point in the install where the USB install REALLY wanted a CD to refer to (i.e. stopped cold). | 15:32 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know. I only have one computer that will boot from usb, and I haven't gotten far enough to test that yet | 15:37 |
| charlie-tca | It is supposed to be able to, both Ubuntu and xubuntu use the same installers | 15:38 |
| drc | I'm assuming that the basic core install fucntions are shared with U/X/K, just the DE installed being the difference? | 15:39 |
| drc | opp...anticipated me | 15:39 |
| charlie-tca | Kubuntu seems to have different installer stuff, too. It uses Ubiquity, but I don't know if it uses casper | 15:40 |
| drc | ah | 15:40 |
| knome | hey xubuntu people, the story of the new wallpaper is here! read more at http://open.knome.fi/2011/03/18/xubuntu-natty-default-wallpaper/ | 15:42 |
| nicofs | Is there any config file for the xfce4-panel? my panel tries to start on a display that doesn't exist anymore and hence crashes... | 15:51 |
| charlie-tca | look in ~/.config | 15:58 |
| nicofs | there's quite a lot there... | 16:05 |
| nicofs | the trouble is that i can't start a new panel because it tries to start on that non-existent display... i just don't know how to fix that... | 16:08 |
| charlie-tca | That's not the panel config then, it is xorg | 16:09 |
| nicofs | whatever it is - i don't know what to do... | 16:09 |
| charlie-tca | You tried deleting the panels and starting them over again? | 16:10 |
| charlie-tca | !panels | 16:10 |
| ubottu | Did your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ | 16:10 |
| charlie-tca | that wiki page tells how to completely remove them and restart them | 16:10 |
| charlie-tca | drc: Xubuntu i386 installed from usb stick today | 16:11 |
| nicofs | charlie-tca, "xfce4-panel" results in segfault | 16:11 |
| charlie-tca | That's bad then | 16:12 |
| charlie-tca | Maybe you have to wait for the updates to complete | 16:12 |
| nicofs | pastebin.com/hWRxP4Ni | 16:12 |
| nicofs | charlie-tca, i think the issue is that i used this nvidia tool to manage my two screens... and now that this tool is gone, i have only one display cloned to both screens and no panel... | 16:13 |
| charlie-tca | Maybe try going to just one screen until the drivers get sorted out again, then/ | 16:14 |
| nicofs | charlie-tca, i have only one screen atm - but that doesn't give me my panel back... :-( | 16:14 |
| charlie-tca | you're running alpha software, I don't have an answer other than to wait for xorg and the video drivers to catch up again. | 16:15 |
| charlie-tca | fresh install is working today | 16:15 |
| charlie-tca | Maybe check this, too: * weboide found out that apt-get actually removed xorg-server package, that's why GDM wouldn't start! =X | 16:16 |
| nicofs | i bet it's just one line in some config file telling the panel to start on the wrong display... | 16:17 |
| nicofs | charlie-tca, apart from the panel, my xfce4 is running... | 16:18 |
| drc | charlie-tca: thanks for the heads up | 16:19 |
| charlie-tca | does the right-click desktop menu work, too? | 16:19 |
| nicofs | yes | 16:20 |
| charlie-tca | got it made then until things get fixed | 16:20 |
| nicofs | since not much can go wrong now, i just downloaded the nvidia drivers... | 16:21 |
| charlie-tca | I wouldn't try that, unless you are ready to completely reinstall | 16:22 |
| nicofs | i don't have my home folder on the same HDD as the system - reinstalling is not too bad... | 16:24 |
| charlie-tca | that's good, cause when you install that nvidia driver, that is your option | 16:25 |
| nicofs | charlie-tca, if that pc were vital to my life, i wouldn't try out natty on it... | 16:25 |
| nicofs | I think i ruined it :-) | 16:33 |
| drc | Does the "update-manager -d" in 10.10 upgrade to A3 or the daily build? | 17:26 |
| pete1 | can I report bugs here? ristretto eats up all my RAM & Swap | 17:29 |
| charlie-tca | daily | 17:34 |
| charlie-tca | drc: it upgrades to natty, and should include most of the updates. Natty if kept updated is equal to the daily builds | 17:34 |
| charlie-tca | !bugs | pete1 | 17:35 |
| ubottu | pete1: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots | 17:35 |
| drc | charlie-tca: danke | 17:35 |
| charlie-tca | no problem | 17:35 |
| charlie-tca | drc: be aware, xorg is broken again in natty | 17:36 |
| charlie-tca | Doing a partial upgrade is almost always bad | 17:36 |
| drc | oh well | 17:37 |
| drc | in that case maybe I'll just take a nap | 17:39 |
| charlie-tca | it's pretty common in natty for breaks like this. You are fine if you don t upgrade while things are in turmoil | 17:40 |
| drc | oh, I'm familiar with problems in alphas/betas, some days I just don't feel like putting up with the headaches/excitement (and this is rapidly becoming one of those days) | 17:42 |
| charlie-tca | I know that feeling | 17:42 |
| drc | funny thing is, it has nothing to do with computers...the new puppy is evidently still in her alpha stage :( | 17:47 |
| drc | and she definatley want to BE the Alpha dog | 17:48 |
| charlie-tca | ahhh, beta is march 31 | 17:49 |
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| drc | making the news: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/xubuntu-1104-default-wallpaper.html | 19:19 |
| Unit193 | drc: I thought it was going to be http://www.flickr.com/photos/leogg/5224255554/in/pool-1546142@N20/ | 19:27 |
| drc | Don't shoot me, I'm just the piano player.... | 19:28 |
| Sysi | that was suggested too, but wasn't chosen | 19:28 |
| Sysi | iirc that will be available too | 19:28 |
| charlie-tca | Unit193: that will be included on the cd, for the user to install if desired | 19:28 |
| Unit193 | charlie-tca: Thanks, I missed that part | 19:29 |
| drc | iirc, it was a tie, and our benevolent dictator chose :) | 19:29 |
| drc | wait...I was wrong, that was between the two to be "included" not the default | 19:31 |
| charlie-tca | please don't confuse the Xubuntu Project Lead with the man that puts out several million dollars a year for Ubuntu and Kubuntu | 19:32 |
| drc | Xubuntu does not share in this largess then? | 19:35 |
| charlie-tca | no | 19:35 |
| drc | interesting | 19:35 |
| charlie-tca | xubuntu recieves support only, no funding | 19:36 |
| jook | Hey, I dunno what happened here. I just installed some updates, and after the reboot, my panels are gone. | 20:03 |
| Sysi | !panels | 20:04 |
| ubottu | Did your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ | 20:04 |
| jook | Hey, thanks mate | 20:04 |
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| xubuntu_noob | hey, if I'm testing an xubuntu instance off of a USB drive, will I lose apps I install? | 23:27 |
| bazhang | if its not set to persistent , sure | 23:28 |
| bazhang | !usb | 23:29 |
| ubottu | For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent | 23:29 |
| bazhang | check the last link for help with that | 23:29 |
| xubuntu_noob | thx | 23:42 |
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