=== bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [05:26] how can i assign a specific size to my display? [05:26] the one i want is not in the list . . . [08:42] I don't see any network manager in tray in xubuntu 10.10. [08:42] alt+F2 "nm-applet" [08:55] Sysi, it does not help. "nm-applet --sm-disable" is running already, but is not shown in tray. It is not marked as hidden in tray properties. [08:57] are any other items visible? [08:57] adn what xubuntu/xfce version? [08:59] Sysi, yes, see above [09:00] ahem, what? [09:00] Sysi, what do you mean be ahem? [09:00] by ahem [09:00] what above? [09:01] Sysi, I don't see any network manager in tray in xubuntu 10.10. [09:01] ah, sorry, just woke up [09:01] have you tried relogging/rebooting? [09:02] Sysi, I tried relogging [09:02] Sysi, I'll try rebooting. [09:05] hello, i'm having some trouble getting compiz to show window borders on xubuntu 10.10, can anyone please help me? [09:06] install emerald and set it to use it [09:06] or what was the other one.. [09:07] allright, i've installed emerald [09:08] what exactly should i be doing next? [09:08] Sysi, rebooting did not help. [09:08] andrew2: go to compiz settings -> window borders [09:09] jarnos: hum, weird [09:09] i'm there [09:09] jarnos: are you using the default icon theme? [09:10] andrew2: "there's /usr/bin/xfwm" somewhere, replace with "emerald" [09:11] thanks Sysi that did the trick [09:11] np [09:13] Sysi, I have not changed it. But I installed xubuntu in non-default way: I installed by ubuntu minimal cd (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD), and then xfce by "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop", if I recall correctly. [09:14] I also can't start synaptic package manager, since it does not accept my password. [09:15] rm -rf ~/.gnome2/keyrings/ [09:15] try installing gnome-icon-theme [09:18] Sysi, it does not help at least without further actions. [09:18] hum, there's filed bug about nm-applet not working on kubuntu but then it didn't even start === Sysi- is now known as Sysi [09:37] hello? [09:37] !hi [09:37] Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [09:38] Odd thing is that it does not accept my password, when the application is started from xfce menu. But if I start it by gksudo in terminal, it will accept my password. [09:40] Sysi, what is the purpose of those keyrings you told me to delete? Will they be created again some time? [09:40] well thanks for being here [09:41] need to see the news but i will check back [09:42] jarnos: it removes old paaswd, new one is asked next time you're trying to use keyring [09:43] Sysi, did you note the above? [09:43] with menu? yes [09:45] really weird problems [09:46] Sysi, the difference is that when starting from the menu, gksu is used instead of gksudo. [09:46] in ubuntu they should do the same thing [09:53] Sysi, yes, gksudo is symbolic link to gksu, but "gksu synaptic" does not allow me to use it, "gksudo synaptic" allows. [09:55] i don't get how is that even possible [10:09] Sysi, same for e.g. mousepad, gksudo works, but gksu tells password is incorrect. [10:11] do you have authentication settings or something in menu? you could also try removing gksu, if there is such package [10:20] Sysi, I don't see such settings. Removing gksu would remove e.g. network-manager-gnome and update-manager, and would install tens of new packages. [10:21] hum [10:24] hi all [10:26] Sysi, maybe the network manager problem is connected to gksu problem. [10:26] could be [15:07] Where should i go if i have issues with natty? [15:07] #ubuntu+1 === nicofs_ is now known as nicofs [15:14] In the Settings manager>Mouse>Devices there is a button, but it apparently resets the defaults for Devices only (i.e., not Behavior, which has no reset option). Anyone know offhand what the default settings for Behavior are? [15:16] drc: which version? [15:16] xubuntu version? [15:17] 10.10, 4.6.2 Is that the versions you mean? [15:17] yup [15:17] let me bring up 10.10 and look [15:18] * drc boggles at the power of having multiple versions available :) [15:19] I have every version available here, with 386 on hardware and all ubuntu and xubuntu releases in VBox [15:19] I just haven't run installs on all them yet [15:20] It is a bit slow, getting them to run [15:21] drc: I also run at least three computers at once, since I do a lot of testing [15:22] okay [15:22] mouse behavior: Threshold = 8, Time = 250, Distance = 5 [15:23] Devices tab: Acceleration = 2.0, threshold = 4 [15:23] Gave up multiple computers a few years ago (when my youngest daughter started running several boxes...only one geek in a household) [15:23] Thanks [15:23] You are welcome [15:24] I should know better than changing defaults without recording them [15:24] It is necessary, since I run the development version on my daily system. I keep a 10.04 box for when development version crashes [15:24] But I was seduced by the and wishful thinking [15:25] such things happen [15:25] I haven't touched 10.10 since it released [15:26] I really like Natty, with xfce 4.8 [15:26] and I can't get 11.04 to install (well, U, not X..haven't tried that...yet) [15:26] images are working today, at least Xubuntu is. I will be running Ubuntu images in a bit [15:27] both 386 and amd64 desktop images installed today [15:32] Can it do a USB install? Last time I tried (with U), it got to a point in the install where the USB install REALLY wanted a CD to refer to (i.e. stopped cold). [15:37] I don't know. I only have one computer that will boot from usb, and I haven't gotten far enough to test that yet [15:38] It is supposed to be able to, both Ubuntu and xubuntu use the same installers [15:39] I'm assuming that the basic core install fucntions are shared with U/X/K, just the DE installed being the difference? [15:39] opp...anticipated me [15:40] Kubuntu seems to have different installer stuff, too. It uses Ubiquity, but I don't know if it uses casper [15:40] ah [15:42] hey xubuntu people, the story of the new wallpaper is here! read more at http://open.knome.fi/2011/03/18/xubuntu-natty-default-wallpaper/ [15:51] Is there any config file for the xfce4-panel? my panel tries to start on a display that doesn't exist anymore and hence crashes... [15:58] look in ~/.config [16:05] there's quite a lot there... [16:08] the trouble is that i can't start a new panel because it tries to start on that non-existent display... i just don't know how to fix that... [16:09] That's not the panel config then, it is xorg [16:09] whatever it is - i don't know what to do... [16:10] You tried deleting the panels and starting them over again? [16:10] !panels [16:10] Did your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ [16:10] that wiki page tells how to completely remove them and restart them [16:11] drc: Xubuntu i386 installed from usb stick today [16:11] charlie-tca, "xfce4-panel" results in segfault [16:12] That's bad then [16:12] Maybe you have to wait for the updates to complete [16:12] pastebin.com/hWRxP4Ni [16:13] charlie-tca, i think the issue is that i used this nvidia tool to manage my two screens... and now that this tool is gone, i have only one display cloned to both screens and no panel... [16:14] Maybe try going to just one screen until the drivers get sorted out again, then/ [16:14] charlie-tca, i have only one screen atm - but that doesn't give me my panel back... :-( [16:15] you're running alpha software, I don't have an answer other than to wait for xorg and the video drivers to catch up again. [16:15] fresh install is working today [16:16] Maybe check this, too: * weboide found out that apt-get actually removed xorg-server package, that's why GDM wouldn't start! =X [16:17] i bet it's just one line in some config file telling the panel to start on the wrong display... [16:18] charlie-tca, apart from the panel, my xfce4 is running... [16:19] charlie-tca: thanks for the heads up [16:19] does the right-click desktop menu work, too? [16:20] yes [16:20] got it made then until things get fixed [16:21] since not much can go wrong now, i just downloaded the nvidia drivers... [16:22] I wouldn't try that, unless you are ready to completely reinstall [16:24] i don't have my home folder on the same HDD as the system - reinstalling is not too bad... [16:25] that's good, cause when you install that nvidia driver, that is your option [16:25] charlie-tca, if that pc were vital to my life, i wouldn't try out natty on it... [16:33] I think i ruined it :-) [17:26] Does the "update-manager -d" in 10.10 upgrade to A3 or the daily build? [17:29] can I report bugs here? ristretto eats up all my RAM & Swap [17:34] daily [17:34] drc: it upgrades to natty, and should include most of the updates. Natty if kept updated is equal to the daily builds [17:35] !bugs | pete1 [17:35] pete1: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [17:35] charlie-tca: danke [17:35] no problem [17:36] drc: be aware, xorg is broken again in natty [17:36] Doing a partial upgrade is almost always bad [17:37] oh well [17:39] in that case maybe I'll just take a nap [17:40] it's pretty common in natty for breaks like this. You are fine if you don t upgrade while things are in turmoil [17:42] oh, I'm familiar with problems in alphas/betas, some days I just don't feel like putting up with the headaches/excitement (and this is rapidly becoming one of those days) [17:42] I know that feeling [17:47] funny thing is, it has nothing to do with computers...the new puppy is evidently still in her alpha stage :( [17:48] and she definatley want to BE the Alpha dog [17:49] ahhh, beta is march 31 === WRStone is now known as Guest60558 === emma is now known as em [19:19] making the news: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/xubuntu-1104-default-wallpaper.html [19:27] drc: I thought it was going to be http://www.flickr.com/photos/leogg/5224255554/in/pool-1546142@N20/ [19:28] Don't shoot me, I'm just the piano player.... [19:28] that was suggested too, but wasn't chosen [19:28] iirc that will be available too [19:28] Unit193: that will be included on the cd, for the user to install if desired [19:29] charlie-tca: Thanks, I missed that part [19:29] iirc, it was a tie, and our benevolent dictator chose :) [19:31] wait...I was wrong, that was between the two to be "included" not the default [19:32] please don't confuse the Xubuntu Project Lead with the man that puts out several million dollars a year for Ubuntu and Kubuntu [19:35] Xubuntu does not share in this largess then? [19:35] no [19:35] interesting [19:36] xubuntu recieves support only, no funding [20:03] Hey, I dunno what happened here. I just installed some updates, and after the reboot, my panels are gone. [20:04] !panels [20:04] Did your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ [20:04] Hey, thanks mate === ChanServ changed the topic of #xubuntu to: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | Xubuntu 10.10 is out! http://xubuntu.org/news/10.10-release Download, Share it, Seed it! Please read the release notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/MaverickMeerkat/Final | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com | Offtopic: #xubuntu-offtopic === surreal7z_ is now known as surreal7z === drc is now known as Guest13957 [23:27] hey, if I'm testing an xubuntu instance off of a USB drive, will I lose apps I install? [23:28] if its not set to persistent , sure [23:29] !usb [23:29] For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [23:29] check the last link for help with that [23:42] thx