[00:21] i had installed some application from tar [00:22] how can i know its installation done in rightway [00:23] Is it in your application menu? [00:28] raju: Is it a binary or source? [00:29] aveilleux: its a source [00:30] raju: Then you'll need to extract it (You can use File Roller for that, just double-click and hit "Extract"), then compile it [00:31] raju: You can do this by opening Terminal, then using the cd ("Change Directory") command to get to the folder where the source is, then reading the README file for instructions [00:31] aveilleux: i did that , but thing is i wanna verify its installation status .....properly done or not [00:31] raju: What program did you download in tar format? [00:31] vala [00:31] aveilleux: ^^^ [00:33] raju: The Vala libraries? Or some DE for Vala? [00:35] aveilleux: hey thank man , you i got it [00:35] thank you aveilleux [00:35] raju: Because the recommended method of installation is the PPA, not the source [00:35] raju: Thzt way you'll always be up to date [00:35] s/Thzt/That [00:35] aveilleux: i had done as ./configure , make ,make instatll [00:36] raju: That'll work too, but I *highly* recommend taking a look at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Vala [00:37] aveilleux: i am on it [00:38] aveilleux: thats very good one [00:39] raju: The best way to find a good source for Ubuntu packages is to Google " ubuntu" (w/o quotes) [00:40] aveilleux: some times i am going like that ...." googe 'pkg name' in ubuntu " === Guest28722 is now known as meditatingfrog [02:36] Setting up a ubuntu desktop for a friend and her 3 kids. I want to make a change to the desktop and look and feel then have it be the same on all of their desktops. Any suggestions? === Axlin|AFK is now known as Axlin === Axlin is now known as Axlin|AFK [03:53] can anyone help me... my function key doesn't seem to work at all so i cannot utilize my keyboard [03:55] * HoboCannibaL scans the chan for useful help [03:57] HoboCannibaL: What keyboard is this? [03:59] its for the laptop so it won't specify when i look up the specs [04:00] the laptop is an asus g73sw [04:00] i can get the function key to work, i found the problem is that they don't have this particular laptop keyboard supported for ubuntu [04:01] when i go to preferences, and go to keyboard....they do not have this model....so i'm assuming that is the problem.... [04:01] HoboCannibaL: Have you tried manually setting the keyboard shortcuts? [04:02] yes and it will not allow me to change them to fn+(key) [04:02] HoboCannibaL: It should say something like "X11volcontrol" [04:03] yeah, it won't let me use function for anything...i have it set up to use it for my volumes and stuff...but i would prefer to have the secondary option [04:03] also my keyboard backlight doesn't work with ubuntu either [04:05] i've searched the net for linux drivers for this model of lappy but i can't really find much of anything for what i need [04:09] aveilleux: also, is there anywhere i can register this nick and also hide my dns? [04:09] HoboCannibaL: Ask about that in #freenode [04:09] ok === Axlin|AFK is now known as Axlin [04:29] aveilleux: are u still available? [04:32] hey all === HoboCannibaL is now known as CoffeeDemon === CoffeeDemon is now known as HoboCannibaL [04:58] hey thewrath [04:59] anyone know of a place that has good tutorials for ubuntu and the terminal? [05:01] HoboCannibaL: i made a server here at the house [05:01] and started doing things without X [05:01] chat in irssi for example [05:02] (irssi ftw) [05:02] * holstein fist-bumps ddecator :) [05:08] holstein: thanx... [05:09] HoboCannibaL: i would like to take my old EEE [05:09] and install a command line system [05:09] 'EEE' ? [05:09] see how much and can get done using it as a main machine :) [05:09] eeepc [05:09] netbook [05:09] oh...asus? [05:09] yeah [05:09] eee900 [05:10] am using a g73sw [05:10] been having probs though with finding drivers for it though lawlz... [05:10] you can always just do it in the gnome terminal [05:10] just google whatever you are trying to do [05:10] and try the job in the command line [05:10] yep...can only find windows drivers [05:11] sudo cp files around [05:11] rmdir [05:11] ls [05:11] simple stuff [05:11] next time you have to make a text document [05:11] cd there and use nano :) [05:11] yeah i'm very very new to linux [05:11] lol [05:13] HoboCannibaL: how are you liking it so far? [05:13] love it.... [05:13] so much better than windows [05:13] its just a lot different lol [05:13] yeah, i prefer it :) [05:13] terminal commands are completely foreign to me right now though :/ [05:14] HoboCannibaL: well, you are looking for driver information right? [05:14] open up the gnome terminal [05:14] and type [05:14] yeah i like it much better...am going to take my floor-top and put a hard linux os on it so i can learn it better [05:14] lspci [05:14] what is gnome terminal? [05:15] and what is lspci? [05:15] applications - accessories - terminal [05:15] that'll get you to the command line [05:15] lspci is a command [05:15] oh ok....whats the command for? [05:15] that will list some hardware [05:15] and information [05:15] k [05:15] HoboCannibaL: you dont have to trust me [05:15] blindly [05:15] or anyone for that matter [05:16] feel free to google these commands [05:16] OR whatever makes you comfortable :) [05:16] lol....yeah i pulled it up [05:16] lspci will tell you lots of handy info though [05:16] lets say [05:16] sure does...thanx [05:16] you are tring to get sound [05:16] trying* [05:16] you can run that [05:16] see if the sound device is listed [05:16] THEN [05:16] if it is [05:16] you can run [05:16] aplay -l [05:17] what does aplay -l do? [05:17] that will tell information about the sound hardware [05:17] HoboCannibaL: you know the sudo command? [05:17] what about the keyboard hardware...thats where im having trouble finding the drivers... [05:17] all my hotkeys are out of whack [05:17] no i do not know sudo [05:18] HoboCannibaL: sudo is one you would want to be careful with [05:18] how come? [05:18] sudo is super user do [05:18] oh [05:18] basically gives you permission to break more things ;) [05:18] lol.... [05:18] sometimes you need it [05:19] HoboCannibaL: so, in the terminal there [05:19] run [05:19] ls [05:19] that will list files and directories [05:19] ok it gave me some options [05:19] you can cd into one [05:19] like [05:19] cd Documents [05:20] cd Doc [05:20] HoboCannibaL: also, the command line lets you use tab to auto complete [05:20] yeah, like ddecator ^^ is getting to :) [05:21] tab complete with commands was one of those discoveries that made me wonder how i got along without it, haha [05:21] ddecator: totally [05:21] its saying display all 2502 possibilities y or n [05:21] HoboCannibaL: you'll get the hang of it :) [05:22] i would say no personally [05:22] so as not to see the 2502 possibilities scroll by [05:22] unless you like to read lists [05:22] BUT, it wont hurt anything [05:22] now whats a command to get out of that directory and back to the main gnome terminal? [05:22] well, its all gnome terminal [05:22] you are using gnome terminal to 'see' [05:23] holstein: to return to the beginning, just use "cd" [05:23] ok [05:24] HoboCannibaL: thats what i would do [05:24] nice...thats pretty logical hah...i need to get used to this....where is a good learning tutorial or site where i can familiarize myself [05:24] next time you need to make a folder [05:24] google how to do it in the command line [05:24] and do it that way :) [05:24] *or come ask in here [05:24] ok... thanx for the help...its actually helpful hah [05:25] as far as hard linux operating systems what would u recommend...? [05:25] you mean challenging? [05:25] lol...yes...one that is non gui [05:26] ive heard doing an arch install is very educational [05:26] and the docs are great [05:27] holstein: i currently have dual booting options for windows and ubuntu....mainly cuz i do have some games and some programs that only run on windows....i did install Wine, but that doesn't run the games [05:28] HoboCannibaL: i would pick something easy [05:28] is there something i can get to emulate windows so i don't have to keep switching between the two operating systems [05:28] maybe a simple game [05:28] or the windows version of firefox [05:28] whatever [05:29] and get that running in wine [05:29] HoboCannibaL: theres virtualbox [05:29] and vmware [05:29] and others [05:29] to emulate windows [05:29] BUT, you wont want to game in there [05:29] ok [05:30] i mean i can just have both operating systems i guess....if its just easier to game in windows i mean lol [05:30] i usually refer to http://appdb.winehq.org/ [05:30] HoboCannibaL: depending on the games, i think its still sometimes the only way [05:30] native windows install [05:30] BUT, its getting better all the time [05:30] and now, you can plan ahead [05:31] and buy games that support linux [05:31] like http://www.wolfire.com/humble [05:31] yeah....how are linux games? graphic wise? [05:31] HoboCannibaL: depends on the game really [05:32] if you mean, are they janky somehow [05:32] nah [05:32] if games getting written for the platform [05:32] they are fine [05:32] they're only janky if they require WINE [05:32] gotcha [05:32] ddecator: hehe [05:32] graphics drivers can still be an issue [05:32] how steam is ever considered acceptable when running it through WINE is beyond me [05:33] yeah, i got the graphics driver, that was the easiest one to get hah [05:34] i do notice like with u-tube and other visually demanding applications....they look great....don't notice a difference at all on that aspect of converting from windows to ubuntu [05:35] adobe finally stepped up [06:42] can somebody tell me how to install micro SD card reader [06:50] hello av [06:50] patience young grasshopper === Axlin is now known as Axlin|AFK [11:29] morning all [11:59] hi duanedesign [12:11] hello [12:12] I got a simple question [12:13] I am using GIMP and I am using pencil and I want to do the color red but instead it is doing brown which some of the image has brown in it [12:14] I want to make the background transparent so I have been choosing a color not used in the image. [12:14] How do I get GIMP not to do this? [12:14] This is one of the reasons I also have KolourPaint installed [12:15] The other is because KolourPaint has the pencil set to 1 pixel. [12:22] hello [12:23] r4y: you want the pencil to draw red instead of brown? [12:24] hello, someone on the ubuntu channel answered my question [12:24] image->mode->rgb [12:24] some images are indexed. meaning they only have a certain number of colors. changing to rgb means you get all the rgb colors. [12:24] that was what I put into a text file for future reference [12:25] I am going to finish this image real quick [12:25] r4y: and did you figure out how to change the diameter of the pencil? [12:25] I already knew how [12:26] ok, great [12:26] happy gimping [12:26] :P [12:26] it's that when I close and re-open gimp the settings go back to default [12:26] i see [12:26] gimp is great [12:36] I just wanted simple icons [12:37] http://imagebin.org/143823 [12:37] http://imagebin.org/143824 [12:38] These are images I captured from the Ultima 6, 7 and 8 games and made into icons [12:38] I've been working on them off and on [12:38] Finally I just added transparency to them [12:40] Hmm, I don't know if you miss understood me. [12:40] it's that when I close and re-open gimp the settings go back to default [12:40] I just finished putting together some icons. [12:41] > I am a beginner at best [12:43] are thise images icons you have done? [12:46] I used DOSBox to take screenshots from Ultima 6, 7 and 8 and messed around with the screenshots [12:46] so no, but kind of [12:48] I resized them all [12:48] added a blue sort of flame around the silver shield [12:49] added more blue around the Ultima 6 sheild [12:49] I remember having trouble with resizing and colors [12:49] I used gimp's many features to fix the colors [12:56] I was looking for a way to play games in DOSBox and be able to do save states [12:56] frontend or not [12:57] Apparently DOSBox doesn't have that feature [12:58] Some games are crazy hard. [12:58] DGEN is pretty hard [12:58] well it is D-Generation actually [12:58] the exe is DGEN [12:59] I thought that the DGEN emulator for Sega Genesis games had the same name until I was Googling [13:06] http://portableapps.com/node/17970#comment-158243 [13:09] http://www.gimpchat.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=205 [13:09] I will try that [13:14] OK, duh!, In GIMP edit preferences, Tool options, save tool options now [13:20] Well, I should go to get sleep soon here [13:25] I don't have to keep downloading KolourPaint now, but I do recommend KolourPaint as a great substitute for MSPaint from windows which which is simple [13:27] hi all [13:29] hi [13:30] am trying to make a hello world kernel module..but the make is failing.. [13:30] help lease [13:31] what is the error you are geting? [13:31] ubuntu 10.10 , made a hello.c file , made a Makefile , ....module.h not found [13:33] and this : No rule to make target ..in the header path [13:37] do I need to gcc the helloworld file b4 make ? [13:38] duanedesign, I have mutiple ver headers in that /usr/src/...hope that wont be an issue [13:50] make[2]: *** No rule to make target `kernel/bounds.c', needed by `kernel/bounds.s'. [13:50] I get this if i use sudo along with the previous one [13:51] have a issue with Ubuntu booting [13:51] it always boots only in command line [13:56] yonij: hmm, i am not sure === Vetinari is now known as lukjad [13:56] gooner: from the commandline does the command: startx [13:56] work? [13:57] duanedesign : will try now [13:57] sudo ? [13:57] duanedesign : its gone blank [13:58] gooner: has it ever booted properly or is this a new install? [13:59] duanedesign : a new install [13:59] ordered a CD and installed from it [14:00] its not the server version is it? [14:02] gooner: you might look through the X log. You can get it with the command: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log [14:03] ok [14:06] gooner: Is your CD Ubuntu Server? [14:07] nope, its desktop [14:08] gooner: moght see if it still has internet access and run updates with the command: sudo apt-get update; sudo oapt-get upgrade [14:08] it doesnt have [14:10] gooner: does it show any error messages when booting? [14:12] nope [14:12] gooner: does this command say State:Installed - aptitude show gdmaptitude show gdm [14:12] aptitude show gdm === yofel_ is now known as yofel [14:13] trying [14:14] i executed "aptitude show gdm" [14:14] it says : [14:14] The program 'aptitude' can be foudn in the following packages : [14:14] * aptitude [14:14] * aptitude-gtk [14:16] also if I leave the command line untouched for sometime, it goes blank after sometime [14:19] hmm, strange [14:19] sounds like it did not insstall all the way [14:21] duanedesign: aptitude isn't installed by default [14:21] (since maverick) [14:21] (on desktop systems) [14:21] yofel: ahhh, you are right [14:21] ok [14:21] so then any ideas ? [14:21] gooner: what does apt-cache policy gdm say for the 'installed' version? [14:23] trying [14:24] gdm: [14:24] Installed: 2.30.5-0ubuntu4 [14:24] hm, ok... try: sudo service gdm start [14:25] if it's already running try restart [14:26] the screen has gone blank now ... I did not execute anything [14:27] its just that if I leave it idle for sometime, it goes blank [14:27] that's the terminal screensaver, just press a key [14:27] still [14:27] have to restart I think [14:27] hm, so restarting gdm didn't help? [14:28] i did not execute any command [14:28] will restart the system now [14:28] well, then execute: sudo service gdm restart [14:28] ok [14:28] that won't reboot your system [14:28] only try to restart X [14:28] the screen has gone blank and am not able to get the command line back [14:28] so restarted the system [14:29] will execute that command now [14:29] btw, I executed "sudo start gdm" before and even that blanked the system [14:29] found one line : http://tutorial.downloadatoz.com/how-to-fix-black-screen-issue-when-installing-ubuntu-10-10.html [14:29] ah, that does the same [14:29] hm... [14:30] ya...its gone blank again [14:30] is that link relevant ? [14:30] what graphics card do you have? [14:31] have not checked yet [14:31] 'lspci | grep VGA' will tell [14:31] ok [14:31] the screen is blank now [14:32] have to restart again === inpressi is now known as Guest53861 === Abhijit is now known as Guest22501 === Abhijit_ is now known as Abhijit [16:17] i'm having a problem with window-size under maverick on my 800x600 netbook. Some windows (e.g. the evolution setup assistant) are too big to be displayed and they dont resize, meaning i cannot see the buttons i gotta click [16:18] Lorizean: i usually hold the alt key [16:18] click and drag the window up [16:18] or around so i can see what i need to see [16:19] woah, i didnt know that was possible... still noobing around. thanks [16:19] Lorizean: anytime :) [16:25] So, I want to install ubuntu as a dual boot along side Win7. I have a raid5 (5 harddrives). I was curious as to how much space I should allocate to each drive when prompted by ubuntu to partition. Is there a reference to how to install onto a raid5 with dual boot? [16:28] mmm raid 5 [16:33] surbs: ubuntu should live in 20 gigs pretty happily. Maybe give it a bit more if you want to store a ton of stuff on your desktop/in your home directory. What I have done in dual-boot configs is to give each OS what it needs plus some, then set up most of the rest of my space as a data partition that can be accessed by both OS's, so that you can work on the same stuff in either OS. Aside from some games, you will probably find you can do everything [16:33] hi all [16:34] im running ubuntu 10.10 as live-system on a pretty new sony vaio [16:34] everything works fine except the touchpad [16:38] anyone here [16:39] i need help! [16:39] !ask | surbs [16:39] surbs: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [16:41] so is there any way of making this touchpad work? [16:42] i have raid5 and win7 installed, I want to create a dual boot between the two, can you please either reffer me to a detailed outline of how to install / partition the drives, that way i know what to select in order to ensure maximized performance of ubuntu [16:42] I am more or less having troubles knowing how much space to allocate to each drive [16:45] surbs: not sure what you mean "each drive" --> in a RAID setup the drives should all look like one device to the system [16:45] yeah, thats what happens when i installed win7 [16:45] if you mean, how much to devote to each OS, see my response to your first questions 18 minutes ago [16:45] but when I go to install ubuntu [16:46] yeah, i accidentally exited out of the tab [16:46] ah [16:46] can you re-post please [16:46] sorry bout that! [16:46] surbs: ubuntu should live in 20 gigs pretty happily. Maybe give it a bit more if you want to store a ton of stuff on your desktop/in your home directory. What I have done in dual-boot configs is to give each OS what it needs plus some, then set up most of the rest of my space as a data partition that can be accessed by both OS's, so that you can work on the same stuff in either OS. Aside from some games, you will probably find you can do everything [16:46] surbs: np [16:48] alright, here let me restart and boot up from ubuntu and I can more or less write down what is happening. See i understand what you mean as the harddisks should show up as "one" but that is not what happened as it did when installing win7 [16:48] instead i see all 5 drives [16:48] if the partitioner is seeing all 5 drives as independant.... I'm not sure why that is. I've very little direct raid experience. Is it a true hardware raid controller, or is win7 creating a "soft raid" array? [16:48] and it has me selecting options [16:48] what options? [16:49] like to allocate /home [16:49] and some other things [16:49] i cant remeber, if i restart and then write it down [16:49] will you still be here [16:49] surbs: Are you in the LiveCD now? [16:49] sure, that's reaosnable. You need to tell the system how much to allocate to /home -- that's your personal data storage under ubuntu - yo uhave to decide how much space yo uneed for that [16:49] no, im on win7 using mIRC [16:50] gross [16:50] hahaha [16:50] lol [16:50] <3 [16:50] i use win7 so i can play crysis2 XD [16:50] but i want to start moving into programing [16:50] No, I mean "gross" to mIRC [16:50] ahhh [16:50] Since it's an awful program [16:51] ahh, well i used to us it when i played computer games hardcore so its all i really know as far as IRC haha [16:51] aight, I will brb [16:51] I'm sure with some quality therapy it could learn to be a better program! [16:51] hahahaaha [16:51] in due time [16:51] in due time [16:51] aigh ill brb [16:52] * iggy19 makes bad joke [16:57] iggy19: are you good with bug triage? [17:01] i got a sony vaio jogdial touchpad which is not doing a thing. does anybody know how to make it work? [17:03] ok back! [17:06] so... when i get to "Install" it ask's "Erase & use entire disk" or "specify partitions manually..." I choose "specifiy sparitions manually" and the next tab is "Allocate Drive Space." The it shows /dev/sda..../dev/sde (all five harddrives) and has an option that says select "New Partition Table (the confusing part to me)" what should i do under this tab given that i have 5 harddrives? [17:06] and why dont all five harddrives list as just "/dev/sda" ? lastly there is the option "Bootloader" where i am assuming that you specifiy which harddrive has the dual bootup? [17:07] surbs: It sounds like you don't have a real hardware RAID controller, but rather a software RAID setup through Windows. Am I right? [17:08] i think you are correct, but what is interesting is... [17:08] in bios i have it set to raid [17:08] and i have L-1 through L-5 [17:08]