[01:15] <fta> jcastro, another crasher: compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in nux::StaticCairoText::UpdateTexture()
[08:26] <viraldiego> Hi folks, I'm using debs from https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily, which still have the version as 4.0b13pre. This is causing a bit of confusion (see https://github.com/kazu-yamamoto/Firemacs/pull/7), does anyone here know whether these builds will come with a version >= 4.0 anytime soon? Or should I switch to the ppa at http://is.gd/f6TM4? Cheers.
[08:48] <chrisccoulson> viraldiego, whenever the version on mozilla-central changes
[08:52] <viraldiego> Ok thanks, so I'm guessing that'd be around the time of the final 4.0 release is that correct?
[08:57] <magcius> chrisccoulson, didn't it already switch to an RC?
[08:57] <chrisccoulson> magcius, no, that was done on the mozilla-2.0 branch
[08:58] <magcius> chrisccoulson, ah.
[08:58] <magcius> chrisccoulson, I assume that's stable, whereas -central is still dev?
[08:58]  * magcius would have figured that -central would have version bumped after RC.
[08:58] <chrisccoulson> magcius, yeah. we're going to rename the firefox-4.0 packages in the PPA to firefox-trunk, and that will make it clear that they are always coming from mozilla-central
[08:59] <chrisccoulson> (and will avoid having to rename them every few weeks too)
[09:00] <magcius> chrisccoulson, why not 'mozilla-cenrtal'?
[09:00] <magcius> er, central
[09:00] <magcius> oh wait, firefox != xulrunner
[09:00]  * magcius is always annoyed at that
[09:00] <chrisccoulson> maybe, but that's a bit of a long name
[09:01] <chrisccoulson> firefox-mozilla-central ;)
[09:01] <magcius> firefox-hg ?
[09:01] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, that could mean any of the 4 branches in http://people.mozilla.com/~sayrer/2011/temp/process.html then
[09:02] <magcius> I saw that article.
[09:02] <viraldiego> chrisccoulson, noticed the 3.6 packages from that ppa still have the "pre" suffix, does that mean the 4.0 packages will also keep the "pre" suffix forever?
[09:02] <chrisccoulson> yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun keeping up with that
[09:03] <magcius> Are 'release channels' being managed in terms of hg branches?
[09:03] <magcius> hg branches are terrible.
[09:03] <chrisccoulson> viraldiego, in the daily PPA, yes.
[09:03] <chrisccoulson> magcius, i assume so
[09:03] <chrisccoulson> they would need to be, to be able to merge changes in from fx-beta
[09:05] <viraldiego> chrisccoulson, am I right to assume then that that daily ppa, will never come with a version number > 4.0 (because 4.0b | 4.0pre < 4.0)?
[09:05] <chrisccoulson> viraldiego, it will have whatever is in mozilla-central
[09:05] <chrisccoulson> so it will become 5.0~ something soon
[09:13] <viraldiego> chrisccoulson, thanks for your help I'll check mozilla-central and ask in the firefox mailing lists
[09:14] <chrisccoulson> viraldiego, what exactly are you trying to find out?
[09:16] <viraldiego> chrisccoulson, there's an addon that uses an appversion flag in the chrome.manifest and it's set to "appversion > 4", which doesn't work on my version (4.0b13pre)
[09:16] <chrisccoulson> no, it won't
[09:16] <chrisccoulson> but, what do you want to ask?
[09:17] <viraldiego> The maintainer of that addon was asking me why I sent him a pull request if firefox rc1 already comes with version 4.0
[09:17] <viraldiego> So I was just wondering whether it was worth him pulling my change or not, if the nightly builds are going to stay as 4.0pre for a while then it's probably worth it
[09:18] <chrisccoulson> no, it's not worth it
[09:18] <chrisccoulson> it will change soon
[09:18] <chrisccoulson> anyway, i have to disappear now
[09:18] <viraldiego> Alright, that's good to know, cheers
[18:56] <BUGabundo> hey! I'm back!!  :D
[20:48] <BUGabundo> [reed]: ping
[20:49] <BUGabundo> [reed]: I opened FF 3.6, updated a few addons, restarted the browser, and now its stuck in a state where it asks to restart FF to finish updates :\
[20:49] <[reed]> BUGabundo: pong
[20:50] <[reed]> BUGabundo: in your firefox profile directory, what files do you have that start with "extensions."
[20:51] <BUGabundo> ~/.mozilla/firefox/3.6SSD$ ls extensions* | pastebinit
[20:51] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/582642/
[20:51] <BUGabundo> [reed]: ^^^^^
[20:52] <BUGabundo> I also get a pop up on startup about lang packs updates
[20:52] <BUGabundo> canceling the updates on the addons individually seems to enable them back on the next startup
[20:52] <[reed]> BUGabundo: delete extensions.cache, extensions.ini and extensions.rdf
[20:52]  * BUGabundo is scared 
[20:52] <[reed]> (while firefox is shutdown)
[20:52] <[reed]> and start it back up
[20:53] <[reed]> (you can save them)
[20:53]  * BUGabundo moves
[20:53] <[reed]> backups, ftw
[20:53] <BUGabundo> I have a btrfs snapshot of last week
[20:53] <BUGabundo> before I went to lisbon on work/vacations :P
[20:53] <BUGabundo> just booted the machine
[20:53] <BUGabundo> so backup is fresh :)
[20:55] <BUGabundo> [reed]: no fix. addons still show it requires it to restart
[20:56] <[reed]> why are you using 3.6 anyway?
[20:56] <[reed]> :p
[20:56] <BUGabundo> meh.... I *was* going to start a new FF4 profile this week
[20:56] <BUGabundo> I was on 3.6 because some of my critical addons weren't upgraded yet
[20:56] <BUGabundo> but I think most of them already are
[20:56] <BUGabundo> still, don't want to be left with a non working profile
[20:57] <BUGabundo> it *should* work
[20:59] <[reed]> yeah
[20:59] <[reed]> not sure
[20:59] <[reed]> file a bug? find Mossop on IRC?
[20:59] <[reed]> :)
[21:01] <BUGabundo> oh well
[21:02] <BUGabundo> better remove the HOLD on FF, upgrade to 4, create new profiles and install all my addons fresh
[21:02] <BUGabundo> wish me luck
[21:10] <BUGabundo> humm
[21:10] <BUGabundo> so I now can have both FF4 from natty and FF4-trunk from daily PPA?
[21:11] <BUGabundo> are those two diff profiles?
[21:11] <BUGabundo> [reed]: fta: ^^^^^^
[21:11] <fta> no idea
[21:11] <BUGabundo> or should daily ppa natty rename the package from firefox-4.0 to firefox ?
[21:12] <fta> i'm no longer involved in those
[21:12] <BUGabundo> yeah I know
[21:12] <BUGabundo> but u know the daily PPAs better then anyone else
[21:26]  * BUGabundo starts a new FF4 profile and changes *all* mouse click options to the oposite
[21:26] <BUGabundo> [reed]: do you guys really like the mouse click defaults?
[21:26] <BUGabundo> why can't I double click to select a partial url?
[21:27] <[reed]> gnome HID stuff or some such, iirc?
[21:27] <[reed]> I dunno
[21:27] <[reed]> you can change it
[21:27] <[reed]> it's a config setting
[21:28] <BUGabundo> I know
[21:28] <BUGabundo> I just did
[21:28] <BUGabundo> *all* of them
[21:28] <BUGabundo> its like they are all the oposite of what I want
[21:28] <BUGabundo> :\
[21:55] <BUGabundo> [reed]: how do we contact devs to upgrade their addons ? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/long-url-please/
[21:56] <[reed]> Need help with this add-on?
[21:56] <[reed]>     E-mail your question
[21:56] <[reed]> e-mail the guy ;)
[21:57] <BUGabundo> ok
[21:59] <BUGabundo> sent
[22:10] <fta> [reed], still a bugzilla dev?