[06:43] <superfly> morning kbmonkey
[06:46]  * nlsthzn waves at superf
[06:46]  * nlsthzn waves at superfly
[06:47] <kbmonkey> hello superfly and nlsthzn 
[06:47] <superfly> hey nlsthzn
[06:48] <superfly> Q: how do you feed a stubborn toddler his breakfast?
[06:48] <nlsthzn> make like it is an airplane ;)
[06:49] <superfly> A: you don't.
[06:49] <kbmonkey> ha ha! 
[10:22] <Symmetria> anyone got a box in a data centre centre somewhere that can help me test something?
[10:24]  * Owkkuri has 100mbps in germany
[10:25] <Symmetria> Ubuntu box?
[10:25] <Owkkuri> centos
[10:25] <Symmetria> ok, gonna stick a file available for download, download it and compile it quick firstly :)
[10:25] <Owkkuri> okie
[10:26] <Symmetria> http://mirror.ac.za/app/tsunami.tgz
[10:26] <Symmetria> use their recompile script rather than trying a manual recompile
[10:47] <superfly> Symmetria: I'll test from home, just for the fun of it... I've got tsunami compiled
[10:49] <Symmetria> superfly k, lemme start the server
[10:49] <Symmetria> and give you an image to download
[10:50] <Symmetria> how big a file u wanna test with?
[10:50] <superfly> I have uncapped, so it doesn't matter
[10:51] <superfly> but perhaps start with a CD iso?
[10:52] <Symmetria> ok
[10:52] <Symmetria> port 46224
[10:53] <Symmetria> on 155.232.191.200
[10:53] <Symmetria> ubuntu-10.04.2-server-i386.iso
[10:53] <Symmetria> thats the file name
[10:53] <Symmetria> :)
[10:53] <Symmetria> dont forget to set rate limit, else it will ddos the shit outta you :P
[10:54] <superfly> Symmetria: how do I do that?
[10:54] <Symmetria> do a get *
[10:54] <Symmetria> it will get that file :)
[10:54] <Symmetria> since I've only made that file available
[10:55] <Symmetria> oh, the set?
[10:55] <Symmetria> type set rate 4096000
[10:56] <Symmetria> and then do a get *
[10:56] <Symmetria> :)
[10:56] <Symmetria> LOL, the first time you tried it, it tried to send to you at 500mbit 
[10:57] <Symmetria> LOL
[10:57] <Symmetria> its hitting you 2 hard for the heartbeat
[10:57] <Symmetria> rate limit yourself some more
[10:57] <Symmetria> :P
[10:57] <Symmetria> else it dies
[10:57] <Symmetria> but you still have it set to like, a coupla hundred megabit
[10:58] <superfly> hrm
[10:59] <Symmetria> heh, its entirely possible this simply wont work on a dsl link because it doesnt know how to send that slowly
[10:59] <Symmetria> and so you get ddos'ed and time out
[11:09] <superfly> so far so good, it seems
[11:10] <Symmetria> heh
[11:10] <Symmetria> it stopped transferring though? or is it still transferring?
[11:11] <superfly> it's still transferring, apparently
[11:12] <Symmetria> *HRM* is your dsl getting loads of traffic?
[11:12] <Symmetria> Request for file: '/diskspace3/ubuntu/ubuntu-release/.pool/ubuntu-10.04.2-server-i386.iso'
[11:12] <Symmetria> Sending to client port 46224
[11:12] <Symmetria>  erate     ipd  target   block   %done srvNr
[11:12] <Symmetria> 100000 6250.00us  2000us    2050   0.30   1
[11:12] <Symmetria>    n/a     n/a     n/a    2050   0.30   1 -- no heartbeat since 12.29s
[11:12] <Symmetria> 100000 6510.42us  2000us    4100   0.59   1
[11:12] <Symmetria>    n/a     n/a     n/a    4100   0.59   1 -- no heartbeat since 25.11s
[11:12] <Symmetria> Heartbeat timeout of 15 seconds reached, terminating transfer.
[11:12] <Symmetria> Server 1 transferred 707500032 bytes in 25.11 seconds (215.0 Mbps)
[11:18] <superfly> Symmetria: yeah, not seeing anything here
[11:20] <Symmetria> terminated again
[11:20] <Symmetria> for same reason
[11:20] <Symmetria> its trying to send 2 fast
[11:20] <Symmetria> dos'ing you so you cant send a heartbeat
[11:20] <superfly> heh
[11:21] <superfly> I gotta pop out quickly
[15:50] <plustwo> hi all
[15:51] <plustwo> which is easier to use or learn between wxpython and tkinter (python GUI programming) ???
[15:51] <plustwo> tnx in advance
[15:59]  * plustwo joins wxpython
[16:01] <plustwo> hi maaz
[16:01] <plustwo> Maaz: hi
[16:01]  * Maaz waves to plustwo
[16:01] <plustwo> Maaz: google tkinter
[16:01] <Maaz> plustwo: "TkInter - PythonInfo Wiki" http://wiki.python.org/moin/TkInter :: "24.1. Tkinter — Python interface to Tcl/Tk — Python v2.7.1 ..." http://docs.python.org/library/tkinter.html :: "An Introduction to Tkinter" http://www.pythonware.com/library/tkinter/introduction/ :: "Tkinter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tkinter :: "Tkinter 8.4 reference: a GUI for Python" http://infohost.nmt.edu/tcc/help/pubs
[16:02] <plustwo> Maaz: goole wxpython
[16:02] <Maaz> plustwo: *blink*
[16:02] <plustwo> :-P
[16:03] <plustwo> Maaz: google wxsnippets
[16:03] <Maaz> plustwo: "SourceForge.net: wxWidgets Dialog Designer: Detail: 3188218 ..." http://sourceforge.net/support/tracker.php?aid=3188218 :: "Getting Help / Links | wxDev-C++" http://wxdsgn.sourceforge.net/?q=node/21 :: "wxWidgets - ç¶­åŸºç™¾ç§‘ï¼Œè‡ªç”±çš„ç™¾ç§‘å…¨æ›¸" http://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-tw/WxWidgets :: "wxWidgets - ç»´åŸºç™¾ç§‘ï¼Œè‡ªç”±çš„ç™¾ç§‘å…¨ä¹¦" http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/WxWidgets :: "wxWidgets - ç»´åŸºç™¾ç§‘ï¼Œè‡ªç”±çš„ç™¾ç§‘å…
[16:04] <plustwo> Maaz: google wxwidgets
[16:04] <Maaz> plustwo: "wxWidgets" http://www.wxwidgets.org/ :: "Downloads - wxWidgets" http://www.wxwidgets.org/downloads/ :: "Documentation - wxWidgets" http://www.wxwidgets.org/docs/ :: "Tutorials - wxWidgets" http://www.wxwidgets.org/docs/tutorials.htm :: "wxWidgets - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WxWidgets :: "wxPython" http://www.wxpython.org/ :: "The wxWidgets tutorial" http://www.zetcode.com/tutorials/wxwidgetstut
[16:05] <plustwo> Maaz: thank you
[16:05] <Maaz> plustwo: Sure
[16:17] <plustwo> ... got what i was looking for ...!
[16:18] <plustwo> Maaz: thanks again
[16:18] <Maaz> no worries, plustwo
[16:18] <plustwo> :-)
[17:52] <superfly> plustwo: neither, PyQt
[18:06] <plustwo> superfly: is it Qt or Gtk?
[18:12]  * plustwo researches PyQt....
[18:17] <plustwo> Maaz: google PyQt
[18:17] <Maaz> plustwo: "Riverbank | Software | PyQt | What is PyQt?" http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/software/pyqt/intro :: "Riverbank | News" http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/ :: "Riverbank | Software | PyQt | PyQt4 Download" http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/software/pyqt/download :: "PyQt Class Reference" http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/static/Docs/PyQt4/html/classes.html :: "PyQt - PythonInfo Wiki" http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyQt :: "Py
[18:55] <Morganvd> Stormers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[19:06] <Symmetria> lol, fuck I love tsunami
[19:16] <Morganvd> i love the stormers
[19:16] <Symmetria> heh, any application that allows me to transfer 4gig files from one continent to another in < 30 seconds 
[19:16] <Symmetria> just kicks ass
[19:21] <Morganvd> that is awsome
[19:22] <Symmetria> lol I needed to transfer a 160meg file just now
[19:22] <Symmetria> look at this:
[19:22] <Symmetria> Server 1 transferred 166782363 bytes in 1.64 seconds (774.8 Mbps)
[19:22] <Symmetria> heh, it didnt have a chance to get any faster :P
[19:23] <Symmetria> that was pretty much as fast as the disks could read or write it
[19:23] <Morganvd> :(
[19:23] <Morganvd> when will home users ever get propper spee
[19:23] <Morganvd> ill be happy with 50Mbps
[19:24] <Symmetria> heh it needs to happen
[19:24] <Symmetria> the biggest problem with the app Im using now is its completely impractical to use it on a low speed link
[19:25] <Morganvd> with telkom crappy service this week im thining of going wireless
[19:25] <Symmetria> someone in here earlier tried, it disconnected them :P 
[20:04] <Symmetria> I love usenet!
[20:05] <Symmetria> there is a vinyl that I had years ago (still got it, but no table to play it on), and finally found mp3s for it so I can listne again
[20:05] <Symmetria> (since I havent ever seen it for sale on cd either)