[00:18] <Solak> re
[00:18] <Solak> no success so far :/
[00:23] <Solak> hmmm, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1650218
[00:39] <Solak> sigh...
[00:43] <Solak> since I have an intel x800 card, I assumed that's the problem... but the workaround (TerminateServer=true) doesn't seem to work...
[01:13] <dave> i have  aa question
[01:13] <Guest62127> if anyone  knows
[01:26] <n1izid> what dependencies are missing for me to run radiotray, im getting this -pygobject_register_sinkfunc is deprecated (GstObject)
[03:49] <Sinani201> Hi, does anyone know how to mount a cd with unhide? I checked google but nothing seems to work
[03:52] <Daskreech> Sinani201: Why don't you mount the CD with mount?
[03:52] <frogonwheels> Sinani201: or pmount ?
[03:56] <BentFranklin> Trying to run rsync over ssh.  How do I tell rsync the non-standard port the remote is using for ssh?
[03:57] <BentFranklin> the docs say --port is for the daemon style of connection
[04:01] <BentFranklin> Astually it says "specify double-colon alternate port number" and elsewhere it says :: is for the daemon.
[04:02] <chx> BentFranklin: did you try to *gasp* google that question?
[04:02] <chx> BentFranklin: http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=rsync+ssh+port&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[04:03] <chx> BentFranklin: if you scroll that page you do not even need to click into any of the results it's right there.
[04:03] <chx> BentFranklin: see, this is the power of google you probably heard so much about. It's amazing! use it.
[04:04] <BentFranklin> Quite right.  So sorry.
[05:38] <beast> test
[05:39] <Daskreech> fail
[05:41] <Daskreech> Bleah!
[05:41] <Daskreech> I'd recommend K3B. While it's designed for the KDE desktop, the app will install smooth as butter in any desktop environment.
[05:53] <BentFranklin> For automated ssh'ing, why are key files considered more secure than a -rw------- password file?  Breaking either seems to be the same level of effort.
[06:07] <greenmang0> hi guys.. i am using mobile broadband ... but then network-manager-kde in systray shows disabled "mobile broadband" tab ... I have to use wvdial to connect .. why is it so?
[06:07] <greenmang0> any solution for this?
[06:28] <mpatel> hello everyone
[06:29] <mpatel> I'm new to KDE. I need some help.
[06:30] <valorie> !ask
[06:30] <valorie> :-)
[06:31] <mpatel> I am able to connect through VPN to my office computer but I don't know any tool for remote connection
[06:31] <valorie> ssh?
[06:32] <mpatel> I use windows in office.. i want it handle it remotely with GUI client
[06:32] <mpatel> is that ssh provides gui??
[06:32] <valorie> mmmm, I think it is putty for windows
[06:32] <mpatel> putty is command line based
[06:33] <valorie> hmmm
[06:33] <valorie> as is ssh
[06:33] <valorie> hmmm
[06:33] <mpatel> I need something GUI client which directly give me my office computer access to everything
[06:33] <valorie> I havne't used windows for so long
[06:33] <mpatel> oh i see
[06:33] <valorie> I think google is your friend
[06:33] <valorie> sftp might work too
[06:34] <valorie> or are you looking for a desktop looking thing
[06:34] <valorie> which you handle remotely?
[06:34] <valorie> might even be called remote desktop
[06:35] <mpatel> I found one tool KRDE in Kubuntu
[06:35] <valorie> I recally some windows horror like that
[06:35] <mpatel> yes Remote Deskto[
[06:51] <Daskreech> mpatel: KRDC
[06:52] <Daskreech> !info krdc
[07:01] <mpatel> I entered my login info into that but haven't received any message yet still i'm waiting on KRDC  blue screen. can anyone suggest me wat to do. thank you
[07:02] <weecol> hello guys
[07:02] <weecol> and girls
[07:03] <Daskreech> hi weecol
[07:03] <Daskreech> mpatel: move the mouse?
[07:03] <Daskreech> mpatel: Oh wait. Check if Kwallet is asking to save your login info
[07:04] <mpatel> no nothing
[07:07] <valorie> sometimes kwallet hides down in your panel
[07:07] <Daskreech> mpatel: ok what did you do let me see if I can replicate
[07:08] <mpatel> I got vpn connection using plasma-network-manager widget
[07:08] <mpatel> then I opened KRDC
[07:08] <Daskreech> Connectting to RDP ?
[07:09] <mpatel> and then I entered my office computer name in Connect to with rdp y
[07:09] <mpatel> then it asked me for username
[07:09] <Daskreech> Can You ping the computer by name?
[07:09] <mpatel> and after that password.. I hit ok after entering password. but haven't received anything then
[07:10] <mpatel> through Konsole
[07:10] <Daskreech> mpatel: ok KRDC asks you for that information before it tries to make a connection. If you can't ping the computer by name then your computer is probably trying to find it
[07:11] <mpatel> ok let me try that
[07:26] <kmanzoor> hi
[07:26] <Daskreech> hi
[07:33] <kmanzoor> what are restricted extras and would these help me in getting flash (adobe) ?
[07:33] <valorie> should do, yes
[07:34] <valorie> !extras
[07:34] <valorie> heh
[07:34] <valorie> !restricted
[07:35] <valorie> the first link should explain all the packages in that meta-package
[07:35] <valorie> if you only want flash
[07:35] <valorie> !flash
[07:44] <kmanzoor> i went to the flash page but it gives installation instructions for ubuntu 9.04 and 8.04. I am using kubuntu 7.10.  any guidance ?
[07:46] <Daskreech> kmanzoor: 7.10? Seriously?
[07:47] <kmanzoor> yes this is written on the dvd cover
[07:47] <valorie> wow
[07:47] <valorie> I think that'
[07:47] <valorie> s where I started
[07:47] <valorie> looooong time ago
[07:47] <Daskreech> !gutsy
[07:48] <Daskreech> kmanzoor: That's been out of date and not supported for two year
[07:48] <Daskreech> s
[07:48] <kmanzoor> is there any way to upgrade online ?
[07:48] <Daskreech> !upgrade
[07:48] <kmanzoor> its a sunday and i dont want to shop for this ;)
[07:49] <Daskreech> kmanzoor: in short sudo do-release-upgradee
[07:49] <kmanzoor> are ubuntu and kubuntu pratically the same. i mean can i use this link to upgrade ?
[07:49] <Daskreech> kmanzoor: Yes
[07:50] <kmanzoor> should i upgrade first... i.e before i try any like restricted extra ?
[07:54] <kmanzoor> should i do a fresh install or go for upgrade ?
[07:58] <Daskreech> kmanzoor: if you have a CD for fresh ugrade for it go head
[07:59] <kmanzoor> i happen to have a ubuntu 10.4 dvd.
[08:04] <lockheed> Hi all I have kubuntu 10.10, how do I get connected to a ZTE modem
[08:05] <lockheed> also I would like to get started learning python
[08:06] <lockheed> <<I fly planes for a living
[08:10] <valorie> !modem
[08:10] <valorie> !python
[08:10] <valorie> I hope those help
[08:30] <Daskreech> Good night
[08:46] <mozart> Error 5: dependency not met: gawk not found in path
[08:55] <kromium> Hi I have kde3.5, and want to install kde 4.6, what line I need to add to apt/sources.list ? and what package I need to instal lafter that?
[08:55] <kromium> I am using kubuntu 10.10
[08:56] <valorie> how do you have 3.5 on your Kub. 10.10?
[08:56] <valorie> do you mean 4.5?
[08:57] <kromium> yes
[08:57] <kromium> 4.5
[08:57] <yofel> kromium: see http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.6.1
[08:57] <kromium> ok
[08:57] <kromium> when I add that line(ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports) to apt, I get error
[08:58] <yofel> how did you try to add it?
[08:59] <kromium> yofel: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[08:59] <yofel> odd, should work
[08:59] <kromium> yofel: yes, weird problem
[09:00] <yofel> what's the error message?
[09:00] <kromium> yofel: my sources.lst has this line: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu main
[09:01] <kromium> yofel: error is: E: Malformed line 59 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[09:01] <yofel> that's the updates PPA
[09:01] <kromium> line 59 is that line
[09:01] <darthvader> I know this isn't the right room but I am getting 0 responses elsewhere. Anyone have any experience with janusvm?
[09:01] <darthvader> I am trying to install it on osx
[09:01] <darthvader> I turned my extra mac into a router so I am going to replicate januspa
[09:02] <yofel> kromium: oh wait, that should be .../ubuntu maverick main
[09:02] <yofel> not just main
[09:02] <kromium> yofel: can you send me your ppa line?
[09:03] <yofel>  deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu maverick main
[09:03] <kromium> now I do, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:04] <yofel> well, just install updates, installing kubuntu-desktop won't do much I think in this case
[09:04] <kromium> ohk
[09:05] <yofel> after that try adding backports again
[09:05] <yofel> need to go, bbl
[09:05] <kromium> ok
[09:06] <kromium> thanks
[10:40] <kps_foo> hi guys, I really need help, my ati fglrx driver crashed KDE and now when I try to login KDE does not start, when I manually try to 'startx', I get xserver errno 11 and errno3
[10:45] <Peace-> kps_foo: mm
[10:45] <Peace-> kps_foo: how did you install ati driverS
[10:45] <kps_foo> through Kubuntu additional driver utility
[10:46] <kps_foo> Peace-: fglrx was highlighted there
[10:46] <Peace-> kps_foo: mm i gues you have only to remove that driver and reinstall the older
[10:46] <Peace-> kps_foo: when you get the terminal you can type
[10:46] <Peace-> sudo apt-get remove --purge PACKAGES
[10:46] <Peace-> to install
[10:47] <Peace-> sudo apt-get install NEDRIVER
[10:47] <Peace-> now
[10:47] <Peace-> now we have to undestand what you have installed before
[10:47] <Peace-> and then remove it
[10:47] <Peace-> with those command i have typed
[10:47] <Peace-> before
[10:48] <kps_foo> Peace-: ok I will try it out
[10:49] <kps_foo> Peace-: ok, I removed ATI fglrx , now which should I install ?
[10:50] <kps_foo> Peace-: is there any default one in Kubuntu ?
[10:50] <kps_foo> Peace-: or should I reinstall fglrx ?
[10:50] <propritaire> allo
[10:52] <kps_foo> Peace-: ping
[10:53] <Peace-> kps_foo:
[10:53] <Peace-> !ati | kps_foo
[10:53] <Peace-> kps_foo: i have to go
[10:54] <Peace-> eat
[10:54] <Peace-> i will be there after 20 minutes
[10:54] <Peace-> have luck
[10:54] <kps_foo> Peace-: ok
[10:54] <kps_foo> Peace-: thanks for the help
[11:04] <kps_foo> I tried all the revert back to xorg steps in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto but KDE still does not start
[11:18] <kps_foo> I tried all the revert back to xorg steps in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto but KDE still does not start
[11:19]  * Solak still has problems with 10.10. It started normal this morning, but after a logout, the logout option doesn't function anymore and starting kde was slower.
[11:20] <Solak> seems to be a problem with intel gfx cards (I have an asus x800). I can revert back to 10.04 lts, but I'd rather try to solve the 10.10 problems...
[11:44] <drbobb> something weird happened a few updates of Java ago: I can no longer paste text onto a textbox in a java applet
[11:47] <drbobb> pasting from the clipboard used to work with previous jre versions, I'm fairly sure the applet's code hasn't changeed
[12:02] <Solak> sigh...
[12:03] <Peace-> Solak: ?
[12:06] <Solak> Peace-: I upgraded from 10.04 lts to 10.10, but now the logout doesn't work anymore (seems to be a bug with intel gfx cards, not sure the x800 is affected though)
[12:07] <Peace-> Solak: you know how to do a laucher?
[12:07] <Solak> Peace-: what do you mean?
[12:08] <Peace-> Solak:  http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2009/05/04/bash-close-kde-with-bash-using-dbus/
[12:09] <Solak> Peace-: I now use alt-f1 -> "sudo restart kdm" / sudo shutdown -h / -r now
[12:09] <Peace-> Solak: try the qdbus story
[12:10] <Solak> Peace-: but there seems to be more than just a button that doesn't work. At start the desktop effects are disabled (by an app I'm not aware of) and the mouse cursor is bouncing long at startup (and I have no idea what process it's trying to start).
[12:10] <Peace-> Solak: you have a driver issue
[12:10] <Peace-> Solak: i guess
[12:11] <Peace-> logout  story read that article
[12:11] <Peace-> and make a laucher if it work with that command
[12:13] <Solak> Peace-: doesn't seem to have any effect :(
[12:13] <Peace-> Solak: driver issue
[12:14] <Solak> Peace-: yes, and I'm not sure that's easy to fix :/
[12:14] <Peace-> Solak: mah i dunno man... i have an intel and it works fine
[12:14] <Peace-> Solak: i will wait for 11.04
[12:14] <Peace-> instead to use 10.10
[12:16] <Solak> Peace-: I think I'd best revert back to 10.04 LTS...
[12:16] <Peace-> Solak: yea...
[12:16] <Solak> Peace-: but 10.10 has some advantages here, sound is finally working again :-)
[12:16] <Peace-> Solak: but why you didn't try the live cd
[12:16] <Peace-> Solak: oh
[12:16] <Peace-> understood
[12:17] <Solak> Peace-: I just upgraded, but true, by using a live cd I probably noticed this problem earlier...
[12:18] <Peace-> Solak: i am on 11.04
[12:18] <Peace-> Solak: it's not stable but here it s working fine...
[12:18] <Solak> Peace-: that's another option, upgrading to beta 11.04...
[12:19] <Solak> Peace-: not sure though how to do that, and I'm not sure it solves this particular problem. yet, it's worth a try...
[12:20] <beast_> Hello, I am having trouble with my wireless network on 10.10 if anyone can help me
[12:22] <Peace-> beast_: iwconfig
[12:23] <beast_> i tried that
[12:23] <Peace-> output?
[12:23] <beast_> lo        no wireless extensions.
[12:23] <beast_> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[12:23] <beast_> wlan0     IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:off/any
[12:23] <beast_>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: Not-Associated   Tx-Power=20 dBm
[12:23] <beast_>           Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[12:23] <FloodBotK1> beast_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:23] <beast_>           Power Management:off
[12:24] <beast_> does that help?
[12:25] <Solak> bbl.
[12:26] <Peace-> beast_: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[12:27] <beast_> wlan0 no scan results
[12:28] <beast_> Peace-: wlan0  No scan resluts
[12:28] <Peace-> beast_: rfkill list
[12:29] <beast_> 0: phy0: Wireless LAN
[12:29] <beast_>         Soft blocked: no
[12:29] <beast_>         Hard blocked: no
[12:32] <beast_> This is a clean install from new image last night
[12:32] <beast_> all updates have been applied
[12:34] <beast_> Peace-: It is a secured network but it is still broadcasting because I am connected on my phone and other pc's
[12:35] <Peace-> beast_: i am sorry man i have no time right now
[12:35] <Peace-> beast_: anyway...
[12:35] <beast_> ok thanks anyway
[12:35] <Peace-> beast_: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[12:35] <Peace-> is to see the network
[12:35] <beast_> ok
[12:35] <Peace-> nothing appear = driver issue
[12:35] <Peace-> so lspci | grep -i network
[12:36] <Peace-> and you get the interfaces
[12:36] <Peace-> goglin that you can find information about the dirver and how to fix into ubuntu
[12:36] <beast_> ok thanks
[13:14] <Dragnslcr> Anyone know if there's a way in KDE 4.6 to have the task manager ordering go back to ordering items "vertically" instead of "horizontally"? It's kind of annoying to have them move around every time a new window opens
[13:21] <Peace-> Dragnslcr: mmm
[13:22] <Peace-> Dragnslcr: you meand this ?http://wstaw.org/m/2011/03/20/plasma-desktopHG4002.jpg
[13:22] <Dragnslcr> I assume it's an upstream change, I just figured I'd ask here first in case anyone else was annoyed by the change and had found a way to change it back
[13:23] <Dragnslcr> Nope, not Force Row Settings
[13:24] <Peace-> mm
[13:24] <Peace-> Dragnslcr: stuff like that is on that window if there is ok otherwise..
[13:24] <Dragnslcr> In 4.5, if you open 4 windows (and have two rows like I do), the order would be A above B in the left column, and C above D in the right column
[13:25] <Dragnslcr> In 4.6, you get A and B in the top row, and B and C in the bottom row
[13:25] <Dragnslcr> I mean C and D in the bottom row
[13:26] <Peace-> oh understood
[13:26] <Peace-> dunno
[13:26] <Dragnslcr> So if you then open another window, C goes from the left end of the bottom row to the right end of the top row
[13:26] <Peace-> Dragnslcr: ask to #kde
[13:26] <Dragnslcr> Instead of the new window being at the end of the top row and everything else staying where it is
[13:27] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, I'll have to check there. Thought I'd ask here first. Thanks
[13:28] <Peace-> Dragnslcr: ask maybe monday
[13:28] <Peace-> Dragnslcr: a lots people is gone out :D
[13:28] <Dragnslcr> Heh
[13:29] <Dragnslcr> Some of us have to do work during the week and only get to IRC evenings and weekends
[13:34] <sebhaase> hi,
[13:36] <sebhaase> i'm running maverick kubuntu in a virtualbox, and was just adding kubuntu-ppa/backports  -- after some package upgrade it KDE doen't start after reboot, and apt-get dist-upgrade says "...some package kept back..." -- any idea !? I was trying to KDE 4.6.1.
[13:50] <sebhaase> i'm running maverick kubuntu in a virtualbox, and was just adding kubuntu-ppa/backports  -- after some package upgrade     KDE doen't start after reboot, and apt-get dist-upgrade says "...some packages kept back..." -- any idea !? I was trying to get KDE 4.6.1.
[14:07] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[14:28] <Solak> re
[14:35] <sebhaase> test.
[14:35] <sebhaase> anyone here ?
[14:36] <Solak> yes
[14:37] <Daskreech> I hope so
[14:38] <sebhaase> i only see messages like [Solak] [~stijnw@cthia.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu
[14:38] <sebhaase> page on pages ....
[14:38] <sebhaase> not much fun to read !!
[14:39] <sebhaase> i suppose my question just got lost in that noise .....
[14:39] <Daskreech> sebhaase: What would you like to read?
[14:39]  * BluesKaj admires those who can run gnome enjoyably . you must have the gift of fortitude and patience :) I just thought I'd repeat that for your benefit, Daskreech :)
[14:39] <sebhaase> some "real people's" discussion.
[14:39] <sebhaase> not just status lines.
[14:39] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: Ha Wrong Chan? :)
[14:39] <sebhaase> can i filter those out !?
[14:39] <sebhaase> how?
[14:39] <Daskreech> sebhaase: Depending on your client yes you can
[14:40] <BluesKaj> nope , backahnded compliment to gnome users
[14:40] <sebhaase> i'm on http://webchat.freenode.net/
[14:40] <sebhaase> mybe that's the problem....
[14:41] <Daskreech> sebhaase: perhaps. What was your question
[14:41] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: Compliment to the users not so much to the project? :)
[14:42] <Solak> hmm, upgrading to 11.04 seems like an interesting option right now :-)
[14:42] <sebhaase> I got "packages kept back" error.
[14:42] <sebhaase> not Kubuntu doesn't boot anymore.
[14:42] <sebhaase> after adding maverick backports
[14:42] <sebhaase> i.e. ppa/... backports  to my 10.10 kubuntu.
[14:42] <BluesKaj> oh the users absolutely, Daskreech :)
[14:42] <Daskreech> sebhaase: When you say it does not boot what do you mean?
[14:43] <sebhaase> I kept seeing the square dots.
[14:43] <Daskreech> Does it get past GRUB?
[14:43] <sebhaase> yes.
[14:43] <Daskreech> Oh hmm Can you choose a different kernel from GRUB?
[14:44] <sebhaase> maybe.
[14:44] <Daskreech> sebhaase: is this the same computer that you have kubuntu on?
[14:44] <sebhaase> can i tell apt  "not" to keep back packages..
[14:45] <sebhaase> I'm running in a virtualbox.
[14:45] <Daskreech> sebhaase: yes if you know why it is keeping them back :)
[14:45] <Daskreech>  ok try boot to a different kernel if you have one to see what it does
[14:46] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: For reasons like the question I just asked
[14:46] <sebhaase> i only  have 2.6.35.
[14:47] <sebhaase> (i'll be back in a few minutes)
[14:47] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, I didn't last a day after trying out the latest gnome desktop on maverick
[14:52] <ech0s7> hi
[14:52] <ech0s7> it's more faster kde or gnome ?
[14:54] <crashev> hello, Im trying to install my printer (HP1020) using hp-setup however it fails to load some properiaty plugin,I also see python[3665]: segfault at 0 ip (null) sp bfa9e0cc error 14 in python2.6[8048000+1e0000] in dmesg - anyone knows how to fix this? Or how to manully download this plugin file ?
[14:56] <Daskreech> ech0s7: ummm
[14:56] <Solak> hmm, I guess there's no compact way to solve the problem with the logout (I guess bug 66079)?
[14:59] <sebhaase> I get kubuntu logo.
[14:59] <sebhaase> but on text terminal the last message is
[14:59] <sebhaase> Checking battery state  [OK]
[15:00]  * Solak has https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/66079
[15:00] <sebhaase> then it hangs!
[15:00] <Solak> that's not the bug described on that page, which is about a not working logout in kubuntu.
[15:02] <sebhaase> how can i interupt init.rc scripts ?
[15:03] <sebhaase> how can i get into a text console ?
[15:03] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: That's Gnome2?
[15:04] <Daskreech> ech0s7: I think Gnome may be faster
[15:04] <Daskreech> Not that I think KDE is slow
[15:04] <Daskreech> but I suppose if you went and did a benchmark test Gnome would probably win
[15:04] <Daskreech> well Gnome2 I can't speak at all for   any of the new shells
[15:05] <Daskreech> sebhaase: Alt+ctrl+F1 ?
[15:05] <Daskreech> I've forgotten if that's possible in Vbox
[15:07] <sebhaase> i'm still during booting - somewhat.
[15:10] <Solak> is there a way in 10.10 to save the desktop from the commandline?
[15:11] <Solak> I can't use logout...
[15:17] <Daskreech> sebhaase: Somewhat?
[15:17] <Daskreech> Solak: What's wrong?
[15:19] <sebhaase> it did not get me to the log in window yet, the x screen show kde logo and "the 5 blinken dots" the text screen says "battery checking   [OK]" .
[15:20] <Solak> Daskreech: after upgrade from 10.04LTS to 10.10, I noticed that the desktop-effects were stopped by a process, not sure which one (message that I could use shift-alt-F12 to resume). At logout some text appeared and the process stopped, ^C etc. didn't work, shutdown -r now from console did (of course). After the reboot, the buttons for logout, restart, etc. didn't work and in the logs appeared messages related to drm and fb.
[15:21] <Solak> sebhaase: that's the text...
[15:21] <Daskreech> sebhaase: can you try press ctrl+Z ?
[15:21] <sebhaase> does't do anything.
[15:21] <sebhaase> like Ctrl-\
[15:21] <Solak> Daskreech: I would prefer a compact solution, instead of reverting to backups or reinstalling another version.
[15:21] <sebhaase> and Ctrl-C
[15:22] <Solak> sebhaase: with ctrl-alt-f1 you get a console login.
[15:22] <Solak> sebhaase: looks like you have the same problem...
[15:22] <sebhaase> thanks.
[15:23] <sebhaase> i did not realize that the text i saw was apparently part of x.
[15:24] <sebhaase> i thought it was a text console.
[15:24] <Daskreech> Solak: is it just a KDE issue?
[15:24] <Solak> sebhaase: from the commandline you can do things like 'sudo restart kdm', then alt-ctrl-f8 (f7 still contains the previous, locked, x screen).
[15:24] <Solak> Daskreech: I'm not sure :( what I see in the bug-text it has something to do with a buggy x-org-server for intel gfx cards.
[15:25] <sebhaase> i get: restart unknown instanbce.
[15:25] <sebhaase> instance.
[15:26] <Solak> Daskreech: I have an Radeon X800Pro.
[15:26] <Solak> -n
[15:34] <sebhaase> top show plymouthd using 7% CPU.
[15:34] <sebhaase> what is that ?
[15:35] <Daskreech> sebhaase: good question.
[15:36] <sebhaase> i hope nothing related to VBoxService
[15:36] <Daskreech> sebhaase: I doubt it. It is probably the daemon for Plymouth
[15:37] <sebhaase> what is plymouth ?
[15:37] <Solak> Daskreech: I don't think I can solve the problem, but I'm wondering how I can put together packages that solve it, or find a way to save the desktop one time.
[15:37] <Daskreech> Solak: that shouldn't stop you from logging out
[15:37] <Daskreech> Solak: the kde sessin manager I would suspect
[15:38] <Solak> Daskreech: 'sudo restart kdm' works, but it doesn't save the session afaik.
[15:38] <Daskreech> Solak: it wouldn't
[15:39] <Solak> if I revert back to 10.04 LTS, sound is broken again. If I stay with 10.10 I have a broken desktop (unless I can revert to older versions of drivers)
[15:40] <Daskreech> Solak: I don't think that video card drivers should stop you from logging out
[15:40] <Daskreech> Solak: I'm going to be on and off here you may wnat to ask in #kde for logging out help
[15:42] <Solak> Daskreech: the drm/fb errors in the log suggest that there is a relation between the video card drivers and the logout.
[15:43] <Solak> Daskreech: each time I clicked on the logout button such an error appeared in the log.
[15:44] <Solak> Daskreech: thanks.
[15:45] <Daskreech> Solak: I could be wrong then :-D
[15:45] <sebhaase> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_(software)
[15:45] <sebhaase> it's the kubuntu logo i'm seeing ... ;-)
[15:45] <Daskreech> sebhaase: yes I Don't know why it needs a daemon
[15:50] <sebhaase> when i kill that it get's completely unresponsive and i have to press "RESET".
[15:51] <Daskreech> sebhaase: do you have a failsafe option ?
[15:53] <sebhaase> i just tried that -- it also hangs....
[15:53] <Daskreech> Solak: try ksmserver
[15:53] <Daskreech> sebhaase: Oh dear. Boot from a live CD?
[15:54] <sebhaase> maybe i should uninstall the virtualbox extensions.
[15:54] <erinaceus> Hi, i was wondering if anyone could point me into the direction of a useful xml tutorial for KDM greeter themes.
[15:54] <erinaceus> The one on docs.kde is not very useful imho
[15:55] <Solak> Daskreech: ah, it has a -r option to load a session and it is currently running (maybe even to manipulate so it saves the session).
[15:55] <Daskreech> Solak: correct
[15:58] <Solak> Daskreech: hmm, is a dbus command again...
[16:01] <Solak> if I could figure out what exactly happens when I click on the logout button, I can try to avoid the step that messes up the logout process.
[16:01] <Daskreech> erinaceus: umm.. not sure. #kde-devel ?
[16:02] <erinaceus> Thanks, I'll see what i can find there
[16:28] <sebhaase> deinstalling the vbox guest additions did not make any difference.
[16:28] <sebhaase> so maybe it's a realy kubuntu issue then ... ;-(
[16:30] <Daskreech> sebhaase: maybe. can you boot a live CD?
[16:30] <sebhaase> don't have one, right now.
[16:30] <sebhaase> but i DO get in.
[16:30] <Solak> ok, session was saved. but as soon as kdm restarts, the functionality of the logout-buttons is gone.
[16:31] <sebhaase> i just don;t get any X.
[16:31] <Daskreech> sebhaase: oh you have a cli?
[16:31] <sebhaase> yes.
[16:31] <sebhaase> Ctrl-F1 worked.
[16:31] <Solak> and another odd thing is the bouncing cursor at restart, it leaves a trail.
[16:31] <Daskreech> sebhaase: ah well then read /var/log/dmesg then
[16:31] <sebhaase> Alt-F1
[16:33] <sebhaase> last messages are about AppAmor.
[16:33] <sebhaase> don't know what that is....
[16:34] <sebhaase> ata3: EH complete
[16:35] <sebhaase> re-mounted. ...
[16:35] <Daskreech> !apparmor
[16:41] <BCMM> what's the difference between kubuntu and kubuntu netbook?
[16:41] <BCMM> (apart from the plasma shell being in netbook mode by default)
[16:42] <Daskreech> BCMM: Apart from that?
[16:42] <james147> BCMM: there is no kubuntu netbook edition anymore, its been rolled into the standard desktop edition
[16:42] <BCMM> i mean, is that the only difference
[16:42] <BCMM> ah, ok
[16:42] <Daskreech> BCMM: No
[16:42] <Solak> hmm, it seems a bit complicated to get rid of akonadi...
[16:42] <Daskreech> it also has a longer name
[16:42] <BCMM> Daskreech: heh
[16:43] <Daskreech> Solak: how so?
[16:43] <BCMM> thanks
[16:43] <Daskreech> hi sheytan
[16:43] <Solak> Daskreech: when I deactivate it, it always returns and when I simulate a remove it wants to remove almost everything in kde...
[16:44] <Daskreech> Solak: Well it will remove things that rely on akonadi
[16:44] <Solak> Daskreech: and many apps do...
[16:45] <Daskreech> Not that many I think
[16:45] <Solak> including plasma-desktop.
[16:46] <Solak> Daskreech: well, it seems like the desktop won't function anymore with akonadi gone :)
[16:46] <s0phia> haiiii
[16:46] <Daskreech> Solak: Whoops :)
[16:46] <Daskreech> s0phia: hi!
[16:47] <s0phia> :D
[16:47] <s0phia> i still need to fix my headphone issue today if possible >.<
[16:47] <s0phia> and install some stuff that edits gEdit to be more like textmate :/
[17:05] <stormblast> търся торент ubuntu 11.10
[17:07] <Daskreech> !ru
[17:08] <Daskreech> stormblast: Существует нет еще 11,10
[17:12] <stormblast> http://torrentdeluxe.com/ubuntu-11.10-torrent.html
[17:12] <stormblast> не магу скачит
[17:12] <Torch> stormblast: please stop writing in any other language then english. thank you.
[17:13] <Daskreech> stormblast: English?
[17:13] <Daskreech> stormblast: /join #ubuntu-ru
[17:15] <stormblast> българин съм и на български ще биша
[17:16] <Daskreech> stormblast: Тип /join #ubuntu-ru
[17:17] <Daskreech> Never mind :)
[17:19] <sourcemaker> how can I sync my contacts in kontact with google?
[17:24] <areichman> sourcemaker: there's a package in kpackagekit called akonadi-kde-resource-googledata
[17:24] <sourcemaker> yes... I have installed this packages... but does not work
[17:24] <areichman> if you install that you should be able to make your google contacts show up in kontact and, I believe, edit them
[17:24] <areichman> how are you using it?
[17:24] <sourcemaker> installed the package and enter my google login data
[17:25] <sourcemaker> it's visible in calender and contacts... by remains empty...
[17:25] <areichman> hang on, let me install it and see if it happens for me, too
[17:25] <sourcemaker> thanks man
[17:30] <naftilos76> hi everyone, i am experiencing low responsiveness in dolphin. It wasn't like that! I am on Kubuntu 10.10 with KDE updated to latest 4.6.1. The thing about dolphin started after i did a clean install with kubuntu's 10.10 iso (burned into a CD) up to now! It is weird. I never had this issue before. By indicating "Low  responsiveness" i refer to a abnormal time needed for dolphin to respond to mouse moving over dirs, clicking on a dir to see
[17:30] <naftilos76> its' contents also takes 3-4 secs instead of <1sec it used to! Can you suggest anything?
[17:31] <sourcemaker> areichman: I restarted akonadi and have checked my configurations... still does not work
[17:33] <naftilos76> akonadi is something that will keep us on the edge. there is always something wrong with it...
[17:34] <Macer> naftilos76: all dirs ? do you have any network mounts?
[17:36] <naftilos76> i do but not when i try to determine whether dolphin is having a problem. That is, only local fs exists and still dolphin is slow...
[17:37] <areichman> sourcemaker: this is really weird. While playing with akonadi and kontact, X crashed on me
[17:38] <areichman> I think I have to take a pass on this one. I have no idea what's wrong, I'm seeing the same behaivor as you
[17:38] <sourcemaker> areichman: thanks for you help... I just tried evolution... same this here...
[17:39] <areichman> very weird. I would try sending an email to the pim people. They might be able to help
[17:42] <Krycek> hi, my ubuntu 10.10 splash screen changed to kubuntu 10.10, did i do something? XD
[17:43] <Krycek> ok
[18:00] <c2tarun> how can I check whether my firefox supports jsp pages or not?
[18:04] <c2tarun> how can I apply password to any folder in kubuntu?
[18:09] <Thinkerer68> c2tarun: What about "chmod '-r' mydir"
[18:09] <Thinkerer68> Is that the effect you need?
[18:09] <c2tarun> Thinkerer68: let me try, never heard of it
[18:10] <Thinkerer68> c2tarun: To access the folder you will need "sudo"
[18:10] <Thinkerer68> c2tarun: Be careful! If you aren't on the "sudoers" list then you can be locked out.
[18:10] <c2tarun> Thinkerer68: oh... got it :) but its not password of same folder, its just changing permissions
[18:22] <tomeek> hello i need help , any one can answer my question ?
[18:22] <tomeek> hello i need help , any one can answer my question ?
[18:22] <tomeek> hello i need help , any one can answer my question ?
[18:22] <FloodBotK1> tomeek: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:23] <c2tarun> tomeek: ask you question first.
[18:23] <c2tarun> tomeek: ask your question first.
[18:24] <tomeek> My laptop mouse pad doesnt work on kubuntu , can u tell me why ?
[18:25] <c2tarun> doesnt work means it is not functioning fully or some features are not working?
[18:25] <c2tarun> tomeek: ^^
[18:25] <tomeek> fully
[18:25] <c2tarun> which kubuntu are you using
[18:26] <tomeek> 10.10
[18:26] <c2tarun> which laptop?
[18:26] <tomeek> Vaio
[18:26] <tomeek> sony
[18:27] <tomeek> i use trial to know how it's looking maybe i have to install full ?
[18:27] <c2tarun> tomeek: well it should have worked in trial as well.
[18:27] <c2tarun> but still try installing it fully. it wont hurt :)
[18:28] <tomeek> but if it doesnt work , can i install again windows ?
[18:29] <c2tarun> tomeek: I'll not suggest you to full format and install, install it inside windows, just as a software.
[18:29] <c2tarun> tomeek: it will work fine and you can remove it from add or remove programs from inside control panel whenever you want :)
[18:30] <tomeek>  can u tell me how kubuntu works ? is it good for browsing websites and use softweres ?
[18:31] <BluesKaj> !Kubuntu | tomeek
[18:32] <c2tarun> tomeek: yup it is :) I tried ubuntu first just for a change, then I liked it so much that I completely switched to ubuntu first and then I switched to kubuntu :) its awesome.
[18:32] <c2tarun> tomeek: by the way take a look at this site as well :) http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/ its good
[18:49] <Rask> Hey guys, wonder if you could help me - Kubuntu installed, everything going well, except for I have no sound.  aplay -l shows my sound card and the mixer doesn't have the channels muted, but still... no sound.  Anyone have any ideas?
[18:50] <Peace-> Rask:  have you an mp3?
[18:51] <Peace-> Rask: anyway you can try to remove pulse
[18:52] <Rask> Remove pulse?
[18:52] <Peace-> Rask: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/09/18/audio-problem-with-kubuntu-10-10/
[18:53] <c2tarun> Rask: are you trying the latest version? (kubuntu 10.10?)
[18:53] <Rask> c2tarun: I actually forget if this is 10.10 or 10.04, how do I check?
[18:54] <c2tarun> it must be written on the disk :/
[18:54] <Rask> I have more than one disk.  :(  I've had a lot of trouble trying to install Kubuntu until now
[18:55] <c2tarun> Rask: try lsb_release -a
[18:55] <Rask> there it is
[18:55] <Rask> 10.04.2
[18:56] <c2tarun> Rask: I'll suggest you to try latest version, if possible, your problem might have fixed there. :)
[18:56] <BCMM> i have a splash screen during shutdown, but not during startup
[18:56] <BCMM> this kubuntu install was done with tasksel over a minimal ubuntu install; is there a problem with the initrd or something?
[18:57] <Rask> c2tarun: Do we have to jump right to a change of that magnitude? >.>
[18:58] <c2tarun> Rask: not getting what you are asking :/
[18:58] <Rask> It seems like just a guess
[18:58] <Rask> "Maybe the latest version will solve your problem"
[18:58] <Rask> I'd rather understand what's going wrong
[18:59] <c2tarun> you chipset might be new and the version you are trying may not support all your hardwares completely, I faced this problem with my headset jack. Then I switched to kubuntu 10.10 and it fixed my problem
[19:00] <Rask> Anyway I checked and I do not have the pulseaudio package installed
[19:01] <c2tarun> Rask: good :) install it and try if it works.
[19:02] <Rask> Okay
[19:04] <acx> ciaoo
[19:04] <Rask> c2tarun: No, nothing coming out of that either
[19:04] <c2tarun> Rask: did you reboot?
[19:04] <Rask> I did alsa force-reload
[19:05] <c2tarun> Rask: wait around, if someone knows the solution, or if possible for you try the latest version once.
[19:07] <c2tarun> Rask: dont install it completely, try it with live CD first
[19:17] <tomeek> i have now install full version and its still unpossible to use a touchpad..
[19:17] <Peace-> tomeek: mm
[19:18] <Peace-> tomeek: xserver-xorg-input-all   ?
[19:20] <tomeek> i dont understand
[19:20] <Peace-> tomeek: kpackagekit ,
[19:21] <Peace-> tomeek: install this package
[19:21] <Peace-> xserver-xorg-input-all
[19:21] <tomeek> how ?
[19:21] <tomeek> where can you get it from ?
[19:23] <Peace-> tomeek: look at this http://wstaw.org/m/2011/03/20/plasma_howto-throw-ball___________.gif
[19:24] <[mio]> Peace: what a service :)
[19:25] <tomeek> it
[19:25] <tomeek> s
[19:26] <tomeek> alerady installed
[19:26] <Peace-> tomeek: :( so your touchpad is not recognized :(
[19:27] <tomeek> but it works on
[19:27] <tomeek> windows 7
[19:27] <Peace-> tomeek: windows7 has the driver
[19:28] <Peace-> tomeek: linux has not the driver
[19:28] <Peace-> that is
[19:28] <Peace-> so you have to identify which kidn of touchpad you have
[19:28] <Peace-> and find with google waht you can do to fix the problem
[19:29] <Peace-> [mio]: :)
[19:47] <dyonisus> good evening
[19:48] <dyonisus> is here also a german channel where i can get some help?   my english isnt good enough
[19:48] <Walzmyn> !de | dyonisus
[19:49] <dyonisus> thx ubottu   ;-)
[19:57] <gomiboy> anybody here who managed to boot a vanilla kernel from kernel.org?
[20:01] <Peace-> gomiboy: we support only ubuntu kernels
[20:02] <gomiboy> Peace-: i know, just asking if by any... never mind :)
[20:32] <mariangel> hello
[21:28] <kaddi> Hi, ich versuche anno 1602 unter kubuntu zu installieren um ein mehrspieler spiel zu spielen. das spielen hat soweit funktioniert, wenn ich jetzt aber versuch ein mehrspieler spiel zu starten haengt es sich an dem screen auf nachdem ich das directplay ausgewaehlt habe
[21:29] <kaddi> wie kann ich anno1602 dennoch spielen>
[21:29] <Walzmyn> !de | kaddi
[21:29] <kaddi> oh wow, sorry
[21:29] <kaddi> wrong window
[21:29] <Walzmyn> 's ok
[21:30] <kaddi> you woudln't happen to be familiar with the (german) Game anno1602 and now how to make multiplayer work on ubuntu with wine?
[21:30] <Walzmyn> hehe, nope
[21:30] <Walzmyn> tried google?
[21:31] <kaddi> yeh, they have all kind of problems covered, but not the issue i'm seeing (freezing of the app)
[21:31] <Walzmyn> check winehq, I've seen things like that be sloved by up/down grading your wine version
[21:33] <Walzmyn> Is there a way to make apt uninstall all the packages pulled in by a meta package?
[21:33] <kaddi> last version that was tested there for the game was 0.9 something from what i've seen.. so I don't have high hopes to get that version somewhere :p
[21:33]  * Walzmyn nods
[21:57] <Walzmyn> I backed up a mysql database with rysnc, Now I see that wasn't the proper thing to do. How can I re-intergrate this database into mysql?
[22:02] <kaddi> is there a way to downgrade wine to 0.9 in kubuntu 10.10?
[22:06] <gundamrx78nt1> KDEuBlog, I installed kubuntu 10.10 and set up my twitter account on the ublog but when I click on the links of the tweets I follow, it opens in monodevelop. How do I stop that from happening?
[22:17] <gundamrx78nt1> Ok, when I click on a link inthe KDEuBlog, it opens the  link in the monodevelop ide, how do I stop that from happening?
[23:06] <Dekkard> is kde the future of ubuntu?
[23:16] <claydoh> lolz