RedSingularityI confirmed a bug in virtualbox-ose.  If someone can take a look it would be much appreciated.  bug 73833000:28
ubot4`Launchpad bug 738330 in virtualbox-ose (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Today's Natty update means no guest additions in virtualbox (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 22)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73833000:28
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: looking00:34
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: if you manually go back to the virtualbox-ose version 4.0.4-dfsg-1ubuntu2, does it work again?00:38
RedSingularityAmpelbein: nope00:41
RedSingularitytried a few times00:41
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: oh, sorry, I misread the changelog, -1ubuntu1 version I meant. (-1ubuntu2 already has the new deps)00:42
RedSingularityAmpelbein: I ran into this last night and then searched for bugs today that I may confirm instead of filing a new one.00:44
Ampelbeinhm.... on second look, I don't think it is virtualbox-ose problem because the reporter is on MacOS, not ubuntu.00:46
RedSingularityAmpelbein: yes true.  Cant he run ose on his mac though?00:47
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: -ose is the host part.00:47
penguin42someone earlier said they had problems that went away if they removed the guest additions; couldn't start X with them00:48
RedSingularityI did mark it under guest-additions as well to be sure.00:49
RedSingularityI have it under -ose and -guest-additions00:49
RedSingularityThe dupe reporter is running the ubuntu host -ose version.00:50
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: a xorg.0.log from inside the guest would be good.00:50
RedSingularityAmpelbein: Ahhhh ok.  Can I attach mine?00:50
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: yes00:51
RedSingularityok standby....00:51
RedSingularityAmpelbein: done00:54
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: [     5.900] (EE) module ABI major version (9) doesn't match the server's version (10)00:55
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: [     5.901] (EE) Failed to load module "vboxvideo" (module requirement mismatch, 0)00:56
RedSingularityAmpelbein: What is it saying?  Sorry, I never worked xorg before :)00:56
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: the vboxvideo module needs to be rebuilt00:56
RedSingularityAmpelbein: I did reinstall it twice to no avail00:57
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: I don't know, does vbox-guest-additions use dkms? if so, what does 'dkms status' say?00:58
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: can you pastebin the result of 'sudo aptitude purge virtualbox-guest-additions && sudo aptitude install virtualbox-guest-addtions'?01:00
RedSingularityAmpelbein: on my host or guest?01:01
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: on the host01:01
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: on that note: you DID reinstall the virtualbox-guest-additions inside the guest?01:02
RedSingularityAmpelbein: yes.  That was the one I was referring to.  Never did that on the host.01:02
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: I don't mean the debian package, but the actual additions.01:02
RedSingularityAmpelbein: Actually i dont have the guest additions package installed on my host.01:04
RedSingularityI mount it in the guest01:04
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: yes, but the iso you mount comes from the virtualbox-guest-additions package01:06
Ampelbeinor how did you get that iso?01:07
RedSingularityAmpelbein: It has always just "came" with the -ose install.  I never had to get a separate guest iso from anywhere....unless I delete it from virtualbox in which case i guess you could use the ubuntu -ose-guestadditions package from the repos.01:08
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: hmm, ok. what does 'apt-cache policy virtualbox-ose-guest-x11' say inside the guest?01:10
RedSingularityAmpelbein: None is installed at the moment.  Version 4.0.4 is available tho.01:11
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: ok. if you reinstall the guest-additions in the guest, can you post the log?01:12
RedSingularityAmpelbein: sure, hold on01:13
RedSingularityAmpelbein: oh what log?01:13
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: should be in /var/log/VBoxGuestAdditions01:15
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: there should be one right now01:15
RedSingularityAmpelbein: yes there is01:15
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: can you pastebin? if it's too big, attach to the bug please.01:15
RedSingularityAmpelbein: its.....2 lines01:16
Ampelbeinthat's.... small.01:16
RedSingularitythats what i was thinking01:16
RedSingularityAmpelbein: This was all working fine until the update last night01:17
RedSingularitythen I rebooted the VM and that was it01:17
RedSingularityno additions anymore01:17
RedSingularitythe update in the VM i mean01:17
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: the xserver got a new ABI01:18
RedSingularityAmpelbein: think its the cause?01:18
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: it definitely is the cause. see the 2 lines I posted above from xorg.0.log01:19
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: the module vboxvideo needs rebuilding01:19
RedSingularityAmpelbein: so wouldnt this be a vbox bug then?01:19
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: which should be done by the virtualbox guest additions script01:19
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: no, the module is in the guest-additions.01:20
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: can you uninstall and reinstall the guest additions and pastebin any output?01:21
Ampelbeinuse ' | tee -a foo.bar '01:21
RedSingularityAmpelbein: hmmmm lets try to do it in the term....01:21
RedSingularityAmpelbein: nope.  All the output you want is put into another terminal window.  It doesnt even look like gnome-terminal btw.01:26
RedSingularityI cant even copy the output with the mouse01:26
RedSingularityor ctl+c01:26
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: hmpf, anything in /var/log/VBoxGuestAdditions this time?01:27
Ampelbeinor did you see anything related to vboxvideo01:27
RedSingularityAmpelbein: nope no change in the log files either...01:28
RedSingularityAmpelbein: I guess I can mark "invalid" the package under virtualbox-ose since the problem is with the guest addition package?01:31
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: one last try. the directory where the uncompressed guest additions are (normally named install), run 'sudo ./install.sh uninstall' from there.01:35
RedSingularityAmpelbein: alright01:35
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: when uninstall is done, run 'sudo ./install.sh'01:36
Ampelbeinafter that, run 'dkms status'01:36
RedSingularityAmpelbein: hold on.  I have an idea for the info you wanted before....about the term output while installing.01:37
RedSingularityAmpelbein: here you go.... http://i.imgur.com/ujGYm.png01:38
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: ok, so there is no error. what does dkms status say?01:39
RedSingularityAmpelbein: "program dkms is not installed"01:40
Ampelbeincan you try starting X now and (if it fails) 'grep vboxvideo /var/log/xorg.0.log'?01:44
RedSingularityAmpelbein: give me the error that the server is already running.  That makes sense though because I do have a desktop....I am not stuck in a term or anything.01:46
Ampelbeinok, now I'm confused. I thought with the guest additions installed you don't have X at all?01:49
RedSingularityAmpelbein: I have x....but it seems that natty wont detect the guest additions.  I cant use the "accelerated graphics" and therefore cant use Unity as Jean said in the duplicate bug report.01:54
RedSingularityI cant even use "fullscreen"01:54
RedSingularitySeemed to me that Jean suffered from the same issue01:54
RedSingularitySo its not just a graphics issue but rather a whole guest additions package issue.01:55
* RedSingularity hopes he sent the correct report :/01:56
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: ok, I seem to understand clearer now. the basic issue remains though, the vboxvideo driver doesn't get built, which means no 3d and no advanced X11 integration.01:59
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: can you remove the guest-additions inside the VM, install 'dkms', install guest-additions again and reboot?02:00
RedSingularityAmpelbein: trying now..02:02
RedSingularityIf there is a "remove" script...02:02
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: well, how did you uninstall the additions before?02:04
RedSingularityI didnt get to that part....i instead sent you the image....02:04
RedSingularity.sh remove or uninstall does not seem to work02:05
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: you can use the normal way of uninstalling.02:06
RedSingularitythe autorun just keeps reinstalling no matter what i put after in terms of uninstall02:06
Ampelbeinif you can't uninstall, just install dkms, reinstall and reboot02:08
RedSingularityAmpelbein: the guest additions is not installed via dpkg02:08
RedSingularityAmpelbein: I never needed the dkms package before....why would i need it now?02:09
Ampelbeinit makes it easier in those cases because you can easily rebuild modules02:09
RedSingularityreinstalled the additions and rebooting again02:11
RedSingularityAhhhh!  Still nothing.  Natty does not see the additions.02:11
Ampelbeinwhat does 'dkms status' say?02:12
RedSingularityvboxguest 4.0.4  2.6.38-7-generic i686: installed02:13
Ampelbeinok. I'm lost.02:14
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: 'grep EE /var/log/xorg.0.log' does still say wrong ABI?02:15
RedSingularityAmpelbein: yep02:22
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: actually, looking at the code it seems there is a new version of the videodriver needed and since the driver is binary only, you need to wait till there is a new virtualbox version out.02:23
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: there is vboxvideo, the kernel driver that gets rebuilt everytime and there is vboxvideo_drv that interacts with the X-Server, which is binary only.02:24
RedSingularityAmpelbein: So we cant use the vbox with natty and guest additions until a new version comes out?02:25
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: yes. another example of "Closed source is evil!".02:26
RedSingularityAmpelbein: what is closed in this tho?02:26
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: the videodriver.02:27
RedSingularityoh vbox02:27
RedSingularityAmpelbein: but it is the OSE i thought??02:27
AmpelbeinRedSingularity: well, the guest additions don't provide the source of the vboxvideo_drv module.02:29
RedSingularityAmpelbein: pm02:30
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njinHello triagers, wich is the command to save in a file the data collected by 'apport-collect -p.....'. Thanks09:55
njin^^ in a pc without a working net09:57
Abhijitnjin, anycommand > text.txt10:18
nigelbnjin: use apport-cli and it will give you option to send, keep or delete the report.10:19
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rr0hitcan anyone tell me what to do with bug 73855111:49
ubot4`Launchpad bug 738551 in istanbul (Ubuntu) "istanbul doesn't launch under unity (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73855111:49
rr0hitcan i close it and open another bug because the problem reported appears to be solved11:49
yofelrr0hit: doesn't istanbul require the tray icon to be controlled?11:51
yofelhaven't tried it in a while11:51
rr0hityofel: the tray icons are the only controls available11:52
rr0hityofel: it works when the gconf key is added11:52
rr0hityofel: but fails during saving11:52
yofelrr0hit: the fails during saving would be another bug12:00
yofelrr0hit: but that it doesn't show the tray icon by default is a bug too if it's required12:01
rr0hityofel: so shall i close this bug and report another?12:01
yofelthe gconf key is a workaround, not a fix12:01
rr0hityofel: alright12:01
yofelas it's still broken for everyone else12:01
rr0hityofel: looks like the bug has been there for long12:02
rr0hityofel: bug 49434312:02
ubot4`Launchpad bug 494343 in istanbul (Debian) (and 1 other project) "Istanbul crashes whenever I stop recording. Save video dialog pops out very briefly then crashes (affects: 25) (heat: 95)" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49434312:02
yofelrr0hit: which release are you on?12:04
yofelodd, according to the debian bug this should be fixed in maverick and natty12:05
rr0hityofel: some comments suggest that itis present in maverick12:06
yofelcan you get a backtrace of your crash? It might be a different one12:06
yofelah wait, you already posted that12:07
rr0hityofel: you r right12:07
rr0hityofel: its different12:07
yofeland "AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'xid'"has nothing to do with the older bug12:08
rr0hityofel:  SOLVED12:14
rr0hityofel: in /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/istanbul/main/save_window.py , one place Gtk is to be changed to gtk12:15
rr0hityofel: works fine afterwords12:15
yofelrr0hit: then you can add a patch to the bug and ask in #ubuntu-motu how to get that into the archive12:16
rr0hityofel: alrightie12:17
rr0hitit has already been fixed in the tarball given here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/istanbul/0.2.2-812:25
rr0hityofel: just needs repackaging right?12:25
yofelit has? but that's what natty has12:26
rr0hityofel: yes, the typo isnt there in that file in the tarball. Maybe it was fixed after someone packaged it12:27
rr0hityofel: or maybe i am yet to get an update, wait12:28
yofelrr0hit: ask someone in -motu, I don't get what's wrong here12:30
yofelrr0hit: aaah, one of the patches seems to add the Gtk line12:31
rr0hityofel: yup !!12:33
rr0hityofel: so what next?12:33
yofelthe patch needs to be updated using quilt, after that create a debdiff for the package so it can be uploaded to natty. More information in #ubuntu-motu as this isn't triaging anymore12:34
rr0hityofel: can I apply the patches to the tarball, then create a patch to correct the mistake and submit that patch?12:41
yofelI'm not sure what's the best way to patch a patch, that's why I would advise to wait for an answer in -motu, you can file a seperate bug for your issue with the information you have so the work doesn't get lost though12:42
rr0hityofel: can you mark bug 738551 as triaged? problem is identified12:59
ubot4`Launchpad bug 738551 in istanbul (Ubuntu) "istanbul doesn't launch under unity (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73855112:59
xteejxAfternoon all14:06
ari-tczewhi xteejx14:07
xteejxhey ari-tczew :)14:07
xteejxHmm, my right click menu in firefox has stopped working lol14:08
ari-tczewon my firefox (running natty) java has been stopped working14:11
vishxteejx: FF4 ?14:12
* ddecator has no trouble with firefox on natty kubuntu14:12
xteejxvish: Hey vish, yeah FF$, Natty14:13
xteejxalso the damn menu14:13
vishyea, thats a known bug..14:13
xteejxmus be a recent update, was fine yesterday14:13
xteejxFF$?? I meant 414:13
xteejxari-tczew: I don't really use sites with Java as such, Js maybe :)14:13
vishxteejx: bug 438868 …14:14
ubot4`Launchpad bug 438868 in indicator-session (Ubuntu) (and 8 other projects) "Numerous applications have focus issues after emerging from a screensaver or suspend (affects: 173) (dups: 17) (heat: 890)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43886814:14
ari-tczewddecator: yes, kklimonda doesn't have troubles on natty as well14:14
vishxteejx: but, it has grown more severe with FF414:14
xteejxvish: That's autocomplete14:14
xteejxMy problem is the menu14:15
xteejxand right click menu14:15
vishxteejx: yea, the menu too, see upstream bug(s)..14:15
ari-tczewxteejx: ehh, I can cure addiction to java games, though :)14:15
xteejxvish: Ahh ok :)14:15
vishxteejx: if the right-click menu does not work, just change window and then come back, *voila* you have menu ;)14:15
xteejxari-tczew: Not that damn Minecraft is it?? lol14:16
xteejxvish: Changing window didn't work, but jus minimized/maximised, it's fine now14:16
xteejxthanks :)14:16
ari-tczewxteejx: no, polish card games :)14:16
xteejxari-tczew: That's ok then hehe :P14:16
xteejxI see the Software Centre still doesn't popup a dialog on quit if something is installing/removing :(14:17
xteejxGrrr....why do people insist on putting loads of things together in 1 report14:24
xteejxOr worse yet "I have the game graphics card, lets comment" !!!!! :@14:24
ashamsI can't find my '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' anybody knows how can I generate a new one?14:34
ubot4`The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution14:34
ari-tczewashams: just delete current existing and reboot14:34
jpdsashams: You don't need such a file; but you can write one out by hand.14:34
ashamsari-tczew: I don't have one now!14:35
ashamsjpds: the problem is!14:35
ari-tczewashams: ah right, so it should be created automatically14:35
mortalhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/738718 reported a resolution bug for natty14:35
ubot4`Launchpad bug 738718 in xorg (Ubuntu) "On DG45FC board the resolution is low, kernel related, it works till 2.6.36, 2.6.37 breaks things (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]14:35
xteejxThere isn't an xorg.conf anymore is there?14:35
ashamsjpds: I want to reconfig the synaptics of a bug reporter, but can't without it!14:36
xteejxsynaptic tpouchpad?14:36
ashamsxteejx: yes14:37
xteejxRecent Ubuntu versions don't need an xorg.conf, and making one would be pointless14:37
xteejxIt's not used14:37
ashamsxteejx: if he uses the synclient to set new option, it gives error msg14:38
jpdsashams: You can still write one, and put it into place.14:38
jpdsashams: But of course, you'll have to do this by hand, from scratch.14:38
ashamsjpds: do you know where 'synclient -l' gets cofig options from when invoked?14:39
jpdsNo, never used that; I'm afraid.14:39
ashamsjpds: no problem, I wonder if it can read it, then it must be saved somewhere14:40
xteejxman synclient?14:40
jpdsashams: Looks like it gets the information from the shared memory from X.14:42
jpds$ apt-get source xserver-xorg-input-synaptics; cat xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-*/tools/synclient.c14:43
ashamsxteejx: it lists two locations and they both not existed, :)14:43
ashamsjpds: No such file or directory14:44
ashamsjpds: Great, you mean SHMConfig?, but how to enable it, I mean itself is an option!14:44
ashamsjpds: yu know how to enable SHMConfig?14:45
xteejxWow, liking the new "app reviews" in software centre, what bright spark thought of nicking that from apple? :D14:48
yofelrr0hit: maybe, but I won't touch it since I don't know much about unity (especially not where you're supposed to fix this globally)14:59
ashamsjpds: thanks15:03
ashamsari-tczew: thanks15:03
ashamsxteejx: thanks15:03
xteejxThanks? I hardly said anything lol but you're gone anyway, but you're welcome nonetheless15:04
penguin42any BC people around? Bug 719446 seems to have been tracked down to a particular patch15:29
ubot4`Launchpad bug 719446 in linux (Ubuntu) "systematic freezes on any kernel version post 2.6.35-22 (affects: 3) (heat: 20)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71944615:29
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trinikronopenguin42: what a interesting bug16:06
trinikronohow did you find this one lol16:07
penguin42trinikrono: Just made some debugging suggestions when it was opened it and have been following it16:08
bejoe95hey all, i need help installing the latest version of perl. can anyone help?16:17
hggdhbejoe95, do you mean installing the current package for your Ubuntu version, or installing from source/elsewhere? Anyway, either should be asked on #ubuntu or #ubuntu+1.16:18
hggdhbejoe95, #ubuntu-bugs is not a support channel16:18
bejoe95alright, thanks16:19
njincan someone verify if http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/x/xserver-xorg-video-nv/xserver-xorg-video-nv_2.1.17-3ubuntu7_i386.deb is up and running?16:19
hggdhnjin, you mean the mirror?16:20
njinhggdh, the file16:21
njinsorry one moment, compiz continuosly crash today16:21
hggdhnjin, the site is up, but I get a 403 on http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/x/xserver-xorg-video-nv/16:22
hggdhnjin, which means the directory is unavailable16:23
njinhggdh, then the file isn't up, so who disturb?16:23
hggdhnjin, it is a 403. Have you tried another mirror?16:23
hggdhus.archive.ubuntu.com works for this file.16:24
hggdhnjin, you may want to contact the mirror admins16:24
njinhggdh, is a bug report, i've already suggested to try to change to main sewrver16:24
njinyesterday i've got problems with italian too16:25
njindamn compiz, crash and crash16:25
njini've only xchat window at full screen16:26
hggdhnjin, you may also try #ubuntu-mirrors16:26
njinok, i try, thanks a lot hggd16:27
erkan^I have added a bugs for kompozer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kompozer/+bug/738801 ... can someone that bugs for next newst version for Ubuntu  11.04 ?17:02
ubot4`Launchpad bug 738801 in kompozer (Ubuntu) "Kompozer have not Dutch language (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]17:02
penguin42bug 719446 probably should be triaged and medium17:34
ubot4`Launchpad bug 719446 in linux (Ubuntu) "systematic freezes on any kernel version post 2.6.35-22 (affects: 3) (heat: 20)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71944617:34
* penguin42 hates bugs which run away and hide when you try and recreate them17:49
PodexI have filed a bug report for upgrading the software nicotine to the latest version, however nobody has replied or done anything: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nicotine/+bug/69681918:06
ubot4`Launchpad bug 696819 in nicotine (Ubuntu) "Please upgrade to nicotine+ 1.2.16 (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New]18:06
Podexis there anything I can do?18:06
serfusPodex, seems like the right teams are subscribed. i guess all you can do is to wait18:28
Podexdoes it help if I get more people to go to the bug report and click the "this bug affects me too"? to get attention?18:30
serfusit will increase it's heat18:31
AmpelbeinPodex: natty is in feature freeze, you need FFe for that upgrade.18:40
Podexyes well18:40
PodexI filed that bug in January18:40
Podexbut I understand18:41
hggdhPodex, there are many more requests than people available to work on them. You _can_ help -- for example, by finding out where we get nicotine from (Debian?), and verifying this new version is already packaged there18:44
Podexits not in Debian either18:44
PodexI just looked18:44
PodexDebian unstable also has 1.2.1418:44
Podexnot 1.2.1618:44
Podexthere is a deb on the official site though: http://www.nicotine-plus.org/files/debian/nicotine_1.2.16-1_all.deb18:46
PodexI don't know if I'll request a FFe yet, but thank you anyway for the info19:08
njinHello, can someone explain what mean this, Use Nominate for series to mark the bug as an SRU candidate for the appropriate Ubuntu releases, how can i do this ?19:39
micahgnjin: I think only bug control can do that now19:39
micahgnjin: but there's a nominate for series under the tasks19:40
njinmicahg: bug 738831 , but i cannot see that nominates for series anywhere19:42
ubot4`Launchpad bug 738831 in ubuntu "Nvidia 173.14.28 needs to be backported to Lucid 10.4 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73883119:42
micahgnjin: we usually don't backport drivers like that19:44
micahgat least as an SRU19:44
njinah, ok19:44
* micahg wonders if it would qualify for backports19:44
micahgyeah, and I don't think the xserver in lucid supports it in any case19:45
micahger, I guess it does19:46
njinDo you think that is right assign it to linux?19:47
micahgnjin: no, nvidia-graphics-drivers-17319:47
njinok, i'll do19:48
micahgnjin: you can also check for duplicates, add regression-release and lucid tags19:48
penguin42micahg: Can you set prio on bug 719446?19:50
ubot4`Launchpad bug 719446 in linux (Ubuntu) "systematic freezes on any kernel version post 2.6.35-22 (affects: 3) (heat: 20)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71944619:50
penguin42micahg: I'd say it's probably triaged and now medium given what Pawel is saying on it19:50
hggdhI have seen that before19:51
micahgpenguin42: sorry, I'm not familiar enough with kernel bugs to ascertain whether or not they're triaged, maybe someone else can help19:51
penguin42micahg: Fair enough; it's been a bit quiet on here19:52
hggdhpenguin42, I do not see a kernel backtrace there19:53
penguin42hggdh: Which given it's a solid hang, you won't necessarily see19:53
hggdhpenguin42, ah, by fault, I did not look the bug to the end. We do have a picture of the oopses19:55
penguin42I originally asked the 2nd reporter to split it off as a separate report, but they do between them seem to have bisected it down to one patch and then found removing it fixes it for both of them19:56
hggdhI agree19:58
* penguin42 disappears20:00
hggdhpenguin42, done20:00
hggdhpenguin42, now, a question: when are you going to apply for bug-control? You would, then, be able to do it yourself ;-)20:01
njinI want penguin42 mentoring me!, if he can have all the needed patience20:02

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