| YoBoY | morning | 07:32 |
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| nigelb | o/ | 07:32 |
| mhall119 | morning | 13:19 |
| Ronnie | morning mhall119 | 13:20 |
| UndiFineD | nice work Ronnie | 15:06 |
| Ronnie | thx UndiFineD | 15:06 |
| mhall119 | Ronnie: I like the look of your "my teams" page | 15:12 |
| mhall119 | not sure how useful it'll be before we bring in non-loco teams though | 15:12 |
| mhall119 | Ronnie: what would it look like if a team has both microblog feed and photos? | 15:12 |
| Ronnie | me neither, im thinking to make the link "My Teams" to "My Team" if the user only has one team, and then redirect to the team detail page. what do you think? | 15:13 |
| Ronnie | microblog has first priority, photo's is fallback | 15:13 |
| Ronnie | only flickr photo's is now supported | 15:14 |
| mhall119 | I would rather that link functionality remains consistent | 15:14 |
| Ronnie | oke | 15:14 |
| Ronnie | i dont support picasa or pixie, because both still have ugly js | 15:14 |
| Ronnie | the template will be a complete mess if i want to support those | 15:15 |
| mhall119 | can the js be cleaned up? | 15:15 |
| mhall119 | or is it because of their APIs? | 15:15 |
| Ronnie | sure, but costs time | 15:15 |
| mhall119 | ok | 15:15 |
| Ronnie | no, it because its not jquery-like | 15:15 |
| mhall119 | maybe daker can take a stab at it | 15:15 |
| Ronnie | but that can be a separate bug, so the my-teams page can be merged before thats done | 15:16 |
| * Ronnie hopes daker will do that | 15:16 | |
| Ronnie | mhall119: the my-teams page already has your merge of bzr apps included | 15:16 |
| Ronnie | so if you could review the code, then we have both merges in one | 15:17 |
| mhall119 | Ronnie: which branch is that? | 15:20 |
| Ronnie | hmm, i guess i didnt create a merge request for it | 15:20 |
| Ronnie | mhall119: https://code.launchpad.net/~ronnie.vd.c/loco-directory/my-teams/+merge/54126 | 15:23 |
| mhall119 | Ronnie: you did the code that sets long/lat from a venue's address, right? | 15:25 |
| Ronnie | mhall119: yes | 15:25 |
| mhall119 | I wrote this a while back: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mhall119/loco-directory/timezone-from-venue/revision/86 | 15:25 |
| Ronnie | is there something wrong with it? | 15:25 |
| mhall119 | it gets a timezone form long/lat, do you think you could incorporate it? | 15:25 |
| mhall119 | nope, nothign wrong, works beautifully | 15:25 |
| mhall119 | now that our venues have a tz field, we can store it instead of retrieving it all the time | 15:26 |
| mhall119 | but it's still not being set all the time, so doing it automagically like you did for lon/lat might be better | 15:27 |
| Ronnie | the feature is great | 15:27 |
| mhall119 | you can probably do it all in javascript, rather than python | 15:27 |
| Ronnie | could be an idea | 15:28 |
| mhall119 | since it's just calling an external webservice | 15:28 |
| mhall119 | I'm cleaning up my old branches in LD, and wanted to bring that up before I deleted it | 15:28 |
| Ronnie | keep it till the js version is ready | 15:31 |
| Ronnie | mhall119: can you create A bug for it | 15:31 |
| Ronnie | im now busy with other things | 15:31 |
| mhall119 | ok | 15:32 |
| mhall119 | hmmm, earthtools only gives offsets, not timezone names | 15:38 |
| mhall119 | so it may not be practical | 15:39 |
| mhall119 | unless you default it to Etc/GMT+offset, if they still have it on UTC | 15:42 |
| mhall119 | might be better than nothing | 15:43 |
| mhall119 | Ronnie: are you sure you need my old timezone retreival branch? I liked to the earthtools webservice in the bug I made | 15:50 |
| mhall119 | linked | 15:50 |
| Ronnie | if the js dont work as expected we still have your code as backup | 15:50 |
| mhall119 | my code is too old to be used | 15:51 |
| mhall119 | it came from a time before we had a timezone field in Venue models | 15:51 |
| Ronnie | mhall119: maybe its easier to couple country + spr to timezone? | 17:39 |
| Ronnie | instead of lat/lng | 17:39 |
| Ronnie | the site you mentioned covers only europe en north america | 17:40 |
| mhall119 | Ronnie: in USA, a state can have multiple timezones, unfortunately | 18:18 |
| mhall119 | so, maybe this whole idea just isn't going to work | 18:18 |
| mhall119 | feel free to mark the bug as invalid if there's no clean and easy way to implement it | 18:19 |
| Ronnie | mhall119: and if we differ by state ? | 18:19 |
| mhall119 | Ronnie: for example, part of Florida is US/Easter, part of Florida is US/Central | 18:19 |
| Ronnie | that sucks :( | 18:19 |
| Ronnie | how does the ubuntu installer guess the timezone? | 18:20 |
| mhall119 | I don't know, geoip maybe | 18:21 |
| JanC | recent installer versions use the ubuntu-geoip package, which looks at http://geoip.ubuntu.com/lookup | 19:08 |
| JanC | I guess you could use some JavaScript to get the timezone from that webservice | 19:08 |
| JanC | Ronnie / mhall119 ^^^ | 19:09 |
| JanC | (I suppose using that service is okay as long as it's for something Ubuntu-related) | 19:09 |
| Ronnie | JanC, this way we get the timezone of the user, not from the venue | 19:10 |
| Ronnie | altough these are usually the same | 19:10 |
| JanC | it might be a "default" | 19:10 |
| JanC | I think there are services that can return timezones based on lat/lng too | 19:11 |
| Ronnie | JanC, we couldn't find one covering the whole world | 19:11 |
| JanC | but I think more people know the timezone than lat/lng ;) | 19:12 |
| Ronnie | the lat/lng isnt a problem http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/venues/add/ | 19:12 |
| Ronnie | just click on the map, or fill in the adress and voila | 19:13 |
| YoBoY | I think the timezone of the user is great as a default value. I'm bored to have to scroll to select my timezone and my country (and I have done it a lot of times) | 19:13 |
| YoBoY | ^^" | 19:13 |
| Ronnie | lol, i just found that mexico has an street named "Amsterdam" | 19:14 |
| Ronnie | so when i fill "Netherlands Amsterdam" i end up in mexico :S | 19:14 |
| YoBoY | we have one too in Paris | 19:15 |
| YoBoY | ;) | 19:15 |
| JanC | http://www.geonames.org/export/web-services.html#timezone --> useful? | 19:33 |
| lee1954 | am i in the right place to ask sort of a beginner's question? | 20:36 |
| Pendulum | lee1954: where are you from? (you probably want either #ubuntu or the IRC channel for the LoCo Team closest to you) | 20:37 |
| lee1954 | well you have to be invited to join the group in kentucky | 20:37 |
| lee1954 | no biggie thanks anyway | 20:38 |
| AlanBell | there is an invitation only loco? | 20:39 |
| YoBoY | it's a moderated team (launchpad group) | 20:40 |
| Pendulum | several of the US LoCos are moderated | 20:41 |
| YoBoY | he's gone ^^" | 20:42 |
| Pendulum | I know, that was for AlanBell :) | 20:42 |
| AlanBell | but moderated still means you can request to join, someone just approves the request | 20:43 |
| AlanBell | invitation only is a step further | 20:44 |
| YoBoY | yes, it's not a restricted LP group like my team | 20:44 |
| Pendulum | I don't get the whole restricting LoCo LP groups, but that's just me | 20:45 |
| AlanBell | that only makes sense to me if it is using lauchpad mailing lists to avoid spammers signing up | 20:46 |
| YoBoY | you are always assuming every team want to use LP to "count" their members, that's not the case, some teams don't use LP for that. | 20:50 |
| Pendulum | my experience was with a team where at the time you couldn't join the ML unless you were in the LP team | 20:57 |
| Pendulum | and the LP team was moderated | 20:57 |
| Pendulum | and to join you had to e-mail the head with your full name & location which was then published on the public website for the team | 20:57 |
| Pendulum | I am rather guarded about some of my location info due to being a rape survivor and I was not about to allow it to go up on the internet everywhere | 20:58 |
| Pendulum | while it's since changed for that LoCo, it was a major turn off for me | 20:58 |
| YoBoY | the launchpad mailing list are not usable, you need a launchpad account to participate in a launchpad ML. All unknown emails are sended to /dev/null | 20:59 |
| YoBoY | really bad | 20:59 |
| Pendulum | I don't think it was a LP mailing list | 21:00 |
| Pendulum | just a moderated list | 21:00 |
| Pendulum | and they allowed moderation by who was in the LP team | 21:00 |
| YoBoY | seems very restrictive :] | 21:01 |
| YoBoY | french people don't like to share location too, and real names also,... and personal informations in general ^^" | 21:04 |
| paultag | lp:locoteams and lp:locoteams-approved's membership policies have been changed to the new deligated mode, if you had an open team before launchpad's change, you can re-set that now. | 21:11 |
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