[07:32] morning [07:32] o/ [13:19] morning [13:20] morning mhall119 [15:06] nice work Ronnie [15:06] thx UndiFineD [15:12] Ronnie: I like the look of your "my teams" page [15:12] not sure how useful it'll be before we bring in non-loco teams though [15:12] Ronnie: what would it look like if a team has both microblog feed and photos? [15:13] me neither, im thinking to make the link "My Teams" to "My Team" if the user only has one team, and then redirect to the team detail page. what do you think? [15:13] microblog has first priority, photo's is fallback [15:14] only flickr photo's is now supported [15:14] I would rather that link functionality remains consistent [15:14] oke [15:14] i dont support picasa or pixie, because both still have ugly js [15:15] the template will be a complete mess if i want to support those [15:15] can the js be cleaned up? [15:15] or is it because of their APIs? [15:15] sure, but costs time [15:15] ok [15:15] no, it because its not jquery-like [15:15] maybe daker can take a stab at it [15:16] but that can be a separate bug, so the my-teams page can be merged before thats done [15:16] * Ronnie hopes daker will do that [15:16] mhall119: the my-teams page already has your merge of bzr apps included [15:17] so if you could review the code, then we have both merges in one [15:20] Ronnie: which branch is that? [15:20] hmm, i guess i didnt create a merge request for it [15:23] mhall119: https://code.launchpad.net/~ronnie.vd.c/loco-directory/my-teams/+merge/54126 [15:25] Ronnie: you did the code that sets long/lat from a venue's address, right? [15:25] mhall119: yes [15:25] I wrote this a while back: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mhall119/loco-directory/timezone-from-venue/revision/86 [15:25] is there something wrong with it? [15:25] it gets a timezone form long/lat, do you think you could incorporate it? [15:25] nope, nothign wrong, works beautifully [15:26] now that our venues have a tz field, we can store it instead of retrieving it all the time [15:27] but it's still not being set all the time, so doing it automagically like you did for lon/lat might be better [15:27] the feature is great [15:27] you can probably do it all in javascript, rather than python [15:28] could be an idea [15:28] since it's just calling an external webservice [15:28] I'm cleaning up my old branches in LD, and wanted to bring that up before I deleted it [15:31] keep it till the js version is ready [15:31] mhall119: can you create A bug for it [15:31] im now busy with other things [15:32] ok [15:38] hmmm, earthtools only gives offsets, not timezone names [15:39] so it may not be practical [15:42] unless you default it to Etc/GMT+offset, if they still have it on UTC [15:43] might be better than nothing [15:50] Ronnie: are you sure you need my old timezone retreival branch? I liked to the earthtools webservice in the bug I made [15:50] linked [15:50] if the js dont work as expected we still have your code as backup [15:51] my code is too old to be used [15:51] it came from a time before we had a timezone field in Venue models [17:39] mhall119: maybe its easier to couple country + spr to timezone? [17:39] instead of lat/lng [17:40] the site you mentioned covers only europe en north america [18:18] Ronnie: in USA, a state can have multiple timezones, unfortunately [18:18] so, maybe this whole idea just isn't going to work [18:19] feel free to mark the bug as invalid if there's no clean and easy way to implement it [18:19] mhall119: and if we differ by state ? [18:19] Ronnie: for example, part of Florida is US/Easter, part of Florida is US/Central [18:19] that sucks :( [18:20] how does the ubuntu installer guess the timezone? [18:21] I don't know, geoip maybe [19:08] recent installer versions use the ubuntu-geoip package, which looks at http://geoip.ubuntu.com/lookup [19:08] I guess you could use some JavaScript to get the timezone from that webservice [19:09] Ronnie / mhall119 ^^^ [19:09] (I suppose using that service is okay as long as it's for something Ubuntu-related) [19:10] JanC, this way we get the timezone of the user, not from the venue [19:10] altough these are usually the same [19:10] it might be a "default" [19:11] I think there are services that can return timezones based on lat/lng too [19:11] JanC, we couldn't find one covering the whole world [19:12] but I think more people know the timezone than lat/lng ;) [19:12] the lat/lng isnt a problem http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/venues/add/ [19:13] just click on the map, or fill in the adress and voila [19:13] I think the timezone of the user is great as a default value. I'm bored to have to scroll to select my timezone and my country (and I have done it a lot of times) [19:13] ^^" [19:14] lol, i just found that mexico has an street named "Amsterdam" [19:14] so when i fill "Netherlands Amsterdam" i end up in mexico :S [19:15] we have one too in Paris [19:15] ;) [19:33] http://www.geonames.org/export/web-services.html#timezone --> useful? [20:36] am i in the right place to ask sort of a beginner's question? [20:37] lee1954: where are you from? (you probably want either #ubuntu or the IRC channel for the LoCo Team closest to you) [20:37] well you have to be invited to join the group in kentucky [20:38] no biggie thanks anyway [20:39] there is an invitation only loco? [20:40] it's a moderated team (launchpad group) [20:41] several of the US LoCos are moderated [20:42] he's gone ^^" [20:42] I know, that was for AlanBell :) [20:43] but moderated still means you can request to join, someone just approves the request [20:44] invitation only is a step further [20:44] yes, it's not a restricted LP group like my team [20:45] I don't get the whole restricting LoCo LP groups, but that's just me [20:46] that only makes sense to me if it is using lauchpad mailing lists to avoid spammers signing up [20:50] you are always assuming every team want to use LP to "count" their members, that's not the case, some teams don't use LP for that. [20:57] my experience was with a team where at the time you couldn't join the ML unless you were in the LP team [20:57] and the LP team was moderated [20:57] and to join you had to e-mail the head with your full name & location which was then published on the public website for the team [20:58] I am rather guarded about some of my location info due to being a rape survivor and I was not about to allow it to go up on the internet everywhere [20:58] while it's since changed for that LoCo, it was a major turn off for me [20:59] the launchpad mailing list are not usable, you need a launchpad account to participate in a launchpad ML. All unknown emails are sended to /dev/null [20:59] really bad [21:00] I don't think it was a LP mailing list [21:00] just a moderated list [21:00] and they allowed moderation by who was in the LP team [21:01] seems very restrictive :] [21:04] french people don't like to share location too, and real names also,... and personal informations in general ^^" [21:11] lp:locoteams and lp:locoteams-approved's membership policies have been changed to the new deligated mode, if you had an open team before launchpad's change, you can re-set that now.