[00:00] <Unguided> I dont see letters backwards or anything like that. I have reading comprehension dyslexia. takes me forever to read 20 pages.
[00:01] <Unguided> Im definitely not stupid either. My day job is a registered nurse. I just dont learn things as fast as everyone else.
[00:02] <Unguided> As far as IRC, It doesnt. But it is nice to know there are people close to my area that use ubuntu as well
[00:02] <DBO> :) there are probably a lot of people in toledo as well
[00:04] <Unguided> I just havent been able to find them. does anyone know of group meetings and such that someone like me can learn be hearing and sight?
[00:04] <Unguided> *by
[00:05] <DBO> checking it out right now :)
[00:05] <DBO> Unguided,
[00:05] <DBO> http://www.talug.org/
[00:06] <DBO> looks like the next meeting is April 9th, 1:00 to 3:30 PM at the Toledo Sanger Branch Library, AV Room A
[00:07] <Unguided> DBO: Thanks. Can u give me any search tips also. I try to use google.com/linux and most of the searches seem to produce nothing of the information I am trying to find. help zeroing in would be great.
[00:07] <DBO> LUG is the key search term
[00:07] <DBO> its short for "linux user group"
[00:07] <DBO> almost all linux user groups go by the name LUG
[00:08] <snap-l> DBO: My biggest beef with Unity is that it's clunky.
[00:08] <DBO> snap-l, maverick or natty version?
[00:08] <snap-l> Natty, recent build (Alpha 2)
[00:08] <snap-l> The fading-in menu bar is where I want to spit fire
[00:09] <snap-l> warning: I have just tried to install something via Wine, so I'm rady to rip faces off
[00:11] <DBO> ah the menu bar thing
[00:11] <DBO> yeah its terrible
[00:12] <snap-l> And I'm not a fan of the left-handed dock bar
[00:14] <DBO> I voted for it to be positional
[00:14] <DBO> i dont think thats out of the cards either
[00:14] <snap-l> DBO: Thank you. :)
[00:14] <snap-l> I don't remember if it has the application menu that takes up the whole damn screen
[00:15] <snap-l> I really don't like that
[00:15] <DBO> RTL will eventually force us to make it possible to place on the right at least
[00:15] <DBO> and hell, if we are going to do that, might as well support the bottom
[00:15] <snap-l> Precisely
[00:15] <DBO> the application menu no longer takes up the whole screen
[02:23] <tjagoda> Unity is painful =(
[02:23] <strangeone> very
[02:25] <strangeone> I gave natty th eboot when the side bar could not make up its mind about where it belonged in regards to my application windows
[02:25] <strangeone> the*
[02:43] <tjagoda> I enjoy how the file menus are removed from firefox and there's no way I can add them back in even when I swap into classic gnome mode
[02:45] <tjagoda> If they break it all we may become #linux-mint-us-mi or #debian-us-mi =P
[02:52] <strangeone> lol
[02:54] <brousch> poor google. they can't even make an ubuntu-quality .deb any more
[02:54] <brousch> "The installation of a package which violates the quality standards isn't allowed. This could cause serious problems on your computer. Please contact the person or organisation who provided this package file and include the details beneath."
[02:56] <strangeone> yeah I have been pushed back to chromium instead of chrome for compatibility issues
[02:56] <strangeone> both on this ubuntu based bodhi and on crunchbang as well
[03:10] <snap-l> http://exde.org/ <- And we get yet another desktop environment for our trouble
[03:10] <snap-l> http://exde.org/node/3 <- The roadmap is brillaint
[03:11] <snap-l> I look forward to being able to brew a pot of tea from my window bar.
[03:21] <strangeone> I am growing attached to enlightenment :S
[03:21] <strangeone> but not brave enough to try it on natty
[03:21] <strangeone> afreaid I will break a lot of things
[03:50] <tjagoda> Whats with all these newfangled window managers trying to steal my file and menu buttons?
[03:50] <tjagoda> =(
[13:16] <snap-l> Good morning
[13:20] <rick_h_> morning
[13:23] <_stink_> morning
[13:27] <rick_h_> ah, the smell of new passing tests in the morning lol
[13:28] <_stink_> heh
[13:33] <brousch> i swear i read that "pissing tests"
[13:33] <brousch> are you on the drugs?
[13:36] <rick_h_> pretty much
[14:33] <snap-l> It is now 10:30, and I have not yet had coffee
[14:33] <snap-l> This is a crime against humanity.
[14:39] <snap-l> Are slideshare and scribd owned by the same company?
[14:39] <snap-l> because I want both of them turned into smouldering craters equally.
[14:53] <jrwren> snap-l: *gasp* i'm on my second cup of a very strong french press
[14:53] <jrwren> snap-l: can I help get you some coffee?
[17:05] <snap-l> jrwren: Nope, I we managed to sort it out
[17:05] <snap-l> went to National Coney for lunch and Meijer for groceries
[17:52] <jrwren> i order my coffee from Colorado, so if there is none, I weep.
[19:47] <snap-l> Oh brilliant. :)
[19:47] <snap-l> AT&T is buying T-Mobile. :)
[19:47] <ngonzal> hopefully we can get some more 3g in michigan
[19:47] <snap-l> http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/03/20/att-to-buy-t-mobile-usa-for-39-billion/
[19:48] <snap-l> Don't bet on it
[19:48] <ngonzal> haha
[19:49] <ngonzal> they've been promising me 3G in kalamazoo for over 3 yrs now
[19:49] <snap-l> must remember to ask Jorge re: his new AT&T service.
[19:49] <snap-l> Kalamazoo? Sheesh, does anyone live there? :)
[19:49] <ngonzal> haha
[19:49] <ngonzal> more people than Holland MI, and they have 3G
[19:49] <snap-l> I thought we sold that to the Canadians for a 24 pack of Molson and a box of Tim Bits
[19:50] <ngonzal> lol
[19:50] <ngonzal> it's mostly drunk college students now
[20:02] <jrwren> they don't have 3G in kzoo???
[20:02] <jrwren> or only T-mobile doesn't?
[20:02] <jrwren> I'd think ATT does. college students = iphones
[20:02] <ngonzal> ATT doesnt
[20:03] <ngonzal> im sure everyone else does, sprint has 4g here
[20:03] <ngonzal> lots of iphones here..on EDGE
[20:03] <jrwren> wow
[20:12] <jcastro> Man
[20:12] <jcastro> I can't believe tmo's going away
[20:13] <jrwren> now ATT just has to buy sprint/nextel and it will be a two party system and america can take sides.
[20:13] <jrwren> D & R
[20:13] <jrwren> Mac & PC
[20:13] <jrwren> Cable and Sat
[20:14] <jrwren> Japanese or Domestic Cars.
[20:14] <jjesse> we can be a red state and blue state?  verizon/att
[20:22] <jcastro> jrwren: hahaha, I was just telling jill "2 carriers sucks"
[20:22] <jcastro> because I totally forgot about sprint
[20:22] <jcastro> hah
[20:25] <snap-l> Does anyone take Sprint seriously that isn't hell-bent on buying a Palm?
[20:25] <snap-l> They've always struck me as the "me too" carrier.
[20:27] <jrwren> sprint actually bought nextel years ago.
[20:27] <jrwren> I dunno how they managed to ruin that.
[20:27] <jrwren> nextel had some impressive tech.
[20:28] <snap-l> jrwren: Had
[20:28] <snap-l> That's the operative word
[20:28] <jrwren> yup
[20:28] <jrwren> sprint ruined it.
[20:28] <jrwren> and they ruined the winston cup
[20:28] <snap-l> Well, that and they had some spectacularly awful customer service
[20:28] <snap-l> Hey, they still have Daytona
[20:29] <snap-l> if they can ruin NASCAR as well, I'll be a happy man
[20:30] <jjesse> how did sprint ruin nascar?
[20:30] <snap-l> jjesse: Was a hope, not a statement. ;)
[20:31] <jjesse> i think nascar itself has ruined things
[20:31] <jjesse> got too far away from its roots
[20:31] <snap-l> Champagne instead of PBR?
[20:31] <jjesse> not letting the drivers bump and crash
[20:31] <jjesse> tried to make it too soft
[20:32] <jjesse> so more people owuld watch
[20:32] <snap-l> Yeah, like hockey
[20:32] <jjesse> or the nfl
[20:32] <snap-l> or basketball
[20:32] <snap-l> I don't think they ever call travelling anymore
[20:32] <snap-l> and double-dribble is just an old video game
[20:33] <jjesse> hahaha correct
[20:33] <snap-l> I remember getting called for travelling so many times in jr high
[20:34] <snap-l> I'm like "Jesus, I can't even get the damn ball going before taking a step"
[20:38] <jrwren> because the winston cup was so much better than nextel cup or sprint/nextel cup or sprint cup.
[20:38] <jrwren> smoking > cell phones
[20:39] <jjesse> yeah it was but stupid political correctness ;)
[20:39] <jrwren> at least busch league is still busch league
[20:40] <jjesse> nope thats nationwide
[20:42] <snap-l> That's because everyone LOVES political correctness. ;)
[20:45] <nixternal> nascar sucks!
[21:18] <jrwren> nascar sucks.
[21:31] <Dekk-lappy> why?
[21:31] <Dekk-lappy> btw who won at bristol?