| Moc | I'm sorry for all the bug report I've done today | 00:04 |
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| LLStarks | bug 739068 kudasai | 00:22 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 739068 in unity (Ubuntu) "Multiple Super+Num keypresses should cycle through multiple windows of an open application" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/739068 | 00:22 |
| humphreybc | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/gnome-shell-smooth-inset-theme-is-light-airy-and-beautiful/#comment-168710449 | 00:49 |
| humphreybc | good for a laugh | 00:49 |
| humphreybc | hey, godbyk! | 00:54 |
| humphreybc | long time no chat :) | 00:54 |
| LLStarks | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10582383 | 01:22 |
| LLStarks | is wayland feasible for oneiric? | 03:08 |
| RAOF | Depends on what you mean. | 03:11 |
| LLStarks | implementation-level, rather than just as an experimental display method and sandbox. | 03:18 |
| RAOF | If we dumped a bunch of resources into it I suspect we could default to wayland for oneric. | 03:19 |
| RAOF | Assuming you're ok with throwing the binary drivers under the bus. | 03:19 |
| LLStarks | if prime gpu switching materializes this summer, i would. | 03:21 |
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| RAOF | Buy me a switchable-graphics laptop and I'll work on it for you :) | 03:24 |
| LLStarks | it sucks when driver development requires investing in machines that may never work properly | 04:23 |
| LLStarks | i'm sure nvidia could do something that works within the constraints of x. | 04:23 |
| Moc | sladen: I hope you don't hate me too much | 04:39 |
| sladen | Moc: not at all! File away, there are tonnes of bugs to find and it's very useful that you are hunting them down and taking the time to document them | 05:27 |
| sladen | Moc: testing is a very important, and often forgotten aspect of development | 05:28 |
| Moc | true, just that I'm a little late to report them | 05:30 |
| Moc | I really didn't like the unity idea, I like my current desktop look. But I must say I wasn't as disapointed as I though I would be | 05:31 |
| Moc | I think, mostly as it, it be great for mostly every light usage | 05:33 |
| sladen | Moc: I think other people share your thoughts too | 05:33 |
| sladen | Moc: the GNOME 2D panel won't be there forever. Everyone is being forced to jump (GNOME 3 Shell/Unity). Hopefully the presence of Unity means that the jump is shorter and less of a step/surprise | 05:35 |
| LLStarks | it's a logical progression. | 05:35 |
| LLStarks | linux needs a fresh face | 05:35 |
| Moc | LLStarks: I agree | 05:35 |
| Moc | The problem I find with a left dock (or any docs) is it reduice the clear txt list of active windows running | 05:36 |
| sladen | "Launcher" | 05:36 |
| Moc | also, the move to the OSX style to have the file/edit at a single location is really bad for multi screen setup... no idea how Apple lover stand it | 05:37 |
| sladen | yup, and another is the spatial assocation. For instance on a taskbar, the first terminal (right at one edge) is the one with my email in it | 05:37 |
| Moc | sladen: yes,, I need to learn the right term, thx | 05:37 |
| sladen | under Unity who knows which Terminal I'm going to get when I click the Terminal icon (I have 10+ open) | 05:38 |
| sladen | well 41 terminals | 05:38 |
| Moc | exactly, having a list of group terminal show at the right of the Launcher Application icon might be what needed | 05:38 |
| sladen | but a lot of that is down to Alt-Tab disrupting the stack order (Fix now Committed I believe) | 05:39 |
| Moc | One annoying default Alt-Tab setting is the 200ms delay before the list of window is shown | 05:39 |
| Moc | I figured out today that it actually a setting ! But I think it should be at 0 by default | 05:40 |
| Moc | I also change it so the background window switching when I press alt-tab is darker, because I was really being hypnotize when I was going from a white page to a black terminal | 05:41 |
| Moc | I couldn't find a way to make it display on both screen or on the screen where the cursor is on | 05:41 |
| sladen | Moc: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/683635 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684843 I think. Please add your thoughts on those bug reports | 05:42 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 683635 in compiz (Ubuntu) "remove fade from the compiz plugin list" [Medium,Fix released] | 05:42 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 684843 in compiz-plugins-main (Ubuntu Natty) "staticswitcher/ Alt-Tab can be slow to appear" [High,Fix released] | 05:42 |
| Moc | Anyway, I'm very picky to these details | 05:42 |
| sladen | Moc: join the club. Being picky about details is how Ayatana and Ubuntu got to where they are | 05:44 |
| Moc | When you use a OS more than 14 hours per day ! Everything picky stuff matter ! | 05:46 |
| sladen | :) | 05:46 |
| sladen | talking of which, it's past 5am, and I should be getting up about now, not going to sleep! | 05:47 |
| Moc | about the same, I need to get up in 3 hours | 05:47 |
| Moc | unity need lot of work in multi screen experience | 05:55 |
| LLStarks | yo guys, how do i bugfile against the ppa scrollbars? | 05:58 |
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| soreau | I dont understand where File Edit Etc bar is for firefox | 06:10 |
| soreau | running compiz and unity-panel | 06:10 |
| soreau | Even when the window isn't maximized, this bar is not present | 06:10 |
| soreau | Where is it hiding? | 06:11 |
| TheMuso | soreau: Move your mouse up tot he top panel, and you should see the menus appear... Its personally a bad design IMO. | 06:12 |
| TheMuso | The hidden menus by default that is. | 06:12 |
| soreau | TheMuso: I can only grab the title bar there, no other menus clicking any which way | 06:15 |
| soreau | And don't start talking about design | 06:15 |
| soreau | (don't get me started, srsly) | 06:15 |
| soreau | I only want to learn enough how to use this thing so I can support other users that will be a kabillion times more confused than me at using their desktop | 06:16 |
| soreau | Not exactly smooth transition from the expected gnome desktop experience | 06:19 |
| TheMuso | hrm don't know whats going on then. | 06:22 |
| Moc | soreau: if you want the file/edit... back in your window, sudo apt-get remove indicator-appmenu | 06:22 |
| Moc | and logout and log back in | 06:23 |
| bwright | Hello. I am writing a patch to move the launcher to other locations (Top, Bottom, Left, Right). Any tips in where Launcher.h|cpp is documented or where to look? I am not keen to filter through 4k lines of cpp this afternoon. | 06:32 |
| DBO | bwright, you are welcome to ask me questions | 06:58 |
| DBO | but you are not going to easily just move to a positionable launcher right now | 06:58 |
| DBO | bwright, I wish I could tell you that we engineered the whole thing to be positionable | 06:59 |
| DBO | but we just never had the time to make it that clean | 06:59 |
| DBO | and with changing designs the code gets stale and ugly quick | 06:59 |
| soreau | Moc: Thanks, that was ridiculous | 07:18 |
| soreau | What's going on there? | 07:18 |
| bwright | DBO: Alright how tied to the left is it? | 07:24 |
| DBO | imagine driving two trains head on into each other at 100 MPH | 07:25 |
| DBO | then try to separate them... | 07:25 |
| DBO | and yes, I purposely use the trainwreck analogy here | 07:25 |
| bwright | Arlight, so I am looking at a major refactoring. | 07:26 |
| bwright | When/where is the launcher actually drawn to the screen? | 07:27 |
| soreau | What is this unity thing modeled after? | 07:27 |
| DBO | there is a method called DrawContent | 07:27 |
| DBO | what do you mean? | 07:27 |
| soreau | Quite possibly the most confusing way to use a desktop, evar | 07:28 |
| bwright | DBO: Cheers found it I am going to give this reactoring a shot. It may take a while for it to be remotely functional | 07:29 |
| soreau | there is no preview in ring switcher for vncviewer from xtightvncviewer package | 07:42 |
| didrocks | good morning | 07:51 |
| DBO | morning didrocks | 07:52 |
| DBO | didja get my email? | 07:52 |
| didrocks | hey DBO! | 07:52 |
| didrocks | DBO: didn't finish the emails, just back from a 3 days week-end, still have hundreds :) | 07:52 |
| fta2 | hi | 07:56 |
| fta2 | guys, please re-open bug 724874 | 07:56 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 724874 in unity (Ubuntu Natty) "unity-window-decorator crashed with SIGSEGV in g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__OBJECT()" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/724874 | 07:56 |
| didrocks | smspillaz|zzz: ^^ | 07:56 |
| RAOF | DBO: You guys aren't planning on enabling the blur plugin by default anytime soon, were you? | 07:56 |
| smspillaz|zzz | the hell ? | 07:56 |
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| smspillaz | RAOF: no | 07:56 |
| smspillaz | fta2: how did you reproduce it ? | 07:57 |
| DBO | RAOF, no | 07:57 |
| RAOF | DBO: smspillaz: Rock. | 07:57 |
| fta2 | smspillaz, closing googleearth, see #20 | 07:57 |
| smspillaz | ok | 07:57 |
| RAOF | So I don't have to treat r600g's blur craziness as an OMGCRITICAL. Superb. | 07:57 |
| fta2 | i meant , #23 | 07:57 |
| smspillaz | *sigh* have to install proprietary software :/ | 07:57 |
| fta2 | smspillaz, #22 said it happens with banshee too | 07:59 |
| smspillaz | does it happen all the time ? | 07:59 |
| smspillaz | is it random or reliable ? | 07:59 |
| fta2 | not sure | 08:00 |
| fta2 | i'm not on the same machine right now | 08:00 |
| smspillaz | oh, hrm, the stacktraces are actually useful now | 08:00 |
| smspillaz | when I was doing this before there was stack corruption and it made debugging this a complete pain | 08:01 |
| fta2 | yep, i attached a fully resolved trace | 08:01 |
| fta2 | wouldn't have bothered otherwise | 08:01 |
| smspillaz | uh-huh ... the version ubuntu is using and upstream is using differs slightly | 08:02 |
| smspillaz | my lin 726 is just blak | 08:02 |
| smspillaz | *blank | 08:02 |
| smspillaz | win = <value optimized out> | 08:04 |
| smspillaz | d = 0x0 | 08:04 |
| smspillaz | iter = 0x0 | 08:04 |
| smspillaz | what the hell? | 08:04 |
| smspillaz | why on earth would d have two values!?!?! | 08:05 |
| * smspillaz thinks something is up here | 08:05 | |
| MacSlow | hey folks | 08:05 |
| smspillaz | hi MacSlow | 08:05 |
| MacSlow | hi smspillaz | 08:05 |
| fta2 | didrocks, last friday, i filed a bug with a unity/compiz crash on startup: bug 737814 | 08:12 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 737814 in compiz (Ubuntu) "compiz crashed with SIGABRT in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/737814 | 08:12 |
| LLStarks | raof, speaking of blur: http://i.imgur.com/27wr1.png | 08:12 |
| didrocks | fta2: thanks, I'll add it to the list of this week fix | 08:12 |
| LLStarks | failblur | 08:12 |
| oSoMoN | good morning | 08:14 |
| fta2 | boom, compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in DeviceLauncherIcon::UpdateVisibility() | 08:19 |
| zniavre | good morning | 08:21 |
| zniavre | an idea when unity and nux will be updated please? | 08:22 |
| LLStarks | bug 739068 | 08:44 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 739068 in unity (Ubuntu) "Cycling through multiple windows of an application needs improvement" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/739068 | 08:44 |
| RAOF | DBO: Oh, by the way? Your nux commit fixes the unity crash for me. Also, HOW DO YOU STAND THE NUX BUILD TIME?!‽ | 09:04 |
| htorque | RAOF, have you tried to build it w/o documentation (--disable-documentation)? seems to save some time. | 09:08 |
| DBO | RAOF, i make sammiches | 09:10 |
| DBO | RAOF, also, make -j4 | 09:10 |
| didrocks | RAOF: don't complain, you don't build the doc as well :) | 09:13 |
| didrocks | RAOF: which asks for a pbuilder :/ | 09:14 |
| htorque | DBO, what should i do when getting an invisible window on all workspaces? it happened twice in the last week, i have no idea what's causing it and what i should add to a report when i see it happening again. | 09:18 |
| DBO | uhm... didrocks ^^ | 09:19 |
| DBO | my brain is off... | 09:19 |
| didrocks | htorque: xprop + click it | 09:19 |
| didrocks | htorque: if it's not that important, then, you can xkill it :) | 09:19 |
| htorque | didrocks, no, invisible windows aren't that important to me :P | 09:20 |
| didrocks | :) | 09:20 |
| htorque | didrocks, i only got this from the last time it happened: http://paste.ubuntu.com/575909/ | 09:22 |
| htorque | guess it doesn't help a lot | 09:22 |
| didrocks | htorque: hum, not really, smspillaz is aware of this anyway | 09:23 |
| htorque | didrocks, but it's not the one in the top-left corner - it's located on the bottom half of the screen (something like this: http://img.xrmb2.net/images/335779.png) | 09:24 |
| didrocks | htorque: the position depends on where compiz set it | 09:27 |
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| htorque | didrocks, ok, thanks! i will just follow bug 709461 for the time being :) | 09:35 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 709461 in unity "Application windows can sometimes fail to display and will mask regions of the screen" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709461 | 09:35 |
| didrocks | htorque: thanks, do not hesitate if you can find any reproducible testcase :) | 09:38 |
| Moc | good morning | 09:51 |
| LLStarks | didrocks, the new launcher icons don't appear when upgrading to 3.6.6 | 09:54 |
| LLStarks | and explicit --reset-icons call is required | 09:54 |
| soreau | hi Moc | 09:54 |
| didrocks | LLStarks: which new launcher icons? | 09:54 |
| LLStarks | bug 714707 | 09:55 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 714707 in unity-2d "[launcher] New Default favorites" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/714707 | 09:55 |
| LLStarks | in short, updating unity should reset its icons and/or settings | 09:57 |
| didrocks | LLStarks: yeah, we don't upgrade unstable release users | 09:57 |
| didrocks | it's a lot of work and corner cases | 09:57 |
| LLStarks | what if i'm alpha 1/2? they won't see unity progress unless they know specifically to reset their icons. | 09:58 |
| didrocks | LLStarks: most of alpha user reinstall and don't ugprade | 09:58 |
| didrocks | so I prefer spending one hour fixing actual crash than writing migration code for some folks that can reset their icons TBH | 09:58 |
| didrocks | but of course, a patch for that is welcome :) | 09:58 |
| LLStarks | makes sense | 09:58 |
| Moc | ;) | 10:00 |
| LLStarks | maybe i will write a patch... the usage case warrants it imho. the launcher should refresh its icons whenever updated without being destructive to user-added launchers. | 10:04 |
| LLStarks | i think it'll be small things like this that'll bring unity up to par with gnome-shell's seamless and immersive look. unity, component-wise is amazing, but it lacks a comprehensive focus to make everything (indicators, global menus, etc) look pretty together. | 10:07 |
| dbarth | rodrigo_: ping? | 10:18 |
| rodrigo_ | hi dbarth | 10:18 |
| dbarth | rodrigo_: hi | 10:22 |
| dbarth | rodrigo_: i just wanted to give you and apinheiro a heads up about DBO's lastest branch | 10:22 |
| rodrigo_ | oh, ok | 10:22 |
| dbarth | rodrigo_: it fixes some more launcher issues but may create a regression with a11y again | 10:23 |
| rodrigo_ | oh, key navigation again? | 10:23 |
| dbarth | rodrigo_: see lp:~unity-team/unity/unity.hide-cleanup and lp:~unity-team/nux/nux.unity-hide-cleanup | 10:23 |
| dbarth | rodrigo_: not keynav | 10:23 |
| dbarth | but focus/grabs may be impacted | 10:24 |
| rodrigo_ | ok | 10:24 |
| dbarth | the branch is still being reviewed, as we want to be super cautious with such a late refactoring | 10:24 |
| rodrigo_ | ok | 10:24 |
| dbarth | rodrigo_: but please give that one a try and subscribe to the merge prop | 10:24 |
| dbarth | rodrigo_: apinheiro should already be on it as well; can you make sure he knows when he connects? | 10:25 |
| rodrigo_ | yes | 10:25 |
| dbarth | thanks | 10:25 |
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| kamstrup | Kaleo: Hi - please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Lenses?action=diff&rev2=13&rev1=12 I added an (optional) signal to the place dbus API for the shell(s) to track when a place considers a search "done" | 11:49 |
| kamstrup | Kaleo: both place daemons support it in their trunk branches which will be released this Thur | 11:49 |
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| Kaleo | kamstrup: nice | 12:25 |
| Kaleo | kamstrup: "Places are not required to emit this signal * and the Unity shell must assume that they do | 12:25 |
| Kaleo | the wording is a bit odd | 12:25 |
| Kaleo | kamstrup: thanks a lot | 12:36 |
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| fta2 | didrocks, bug 739083 | 14:04 |
| ubot5 | Error: Launchpad bug 739083 could not be found | 14:04 |
| fta2 | bug 739083 | 14:05 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 739083 in unity (Ubuntu) "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in DeviceLauncherIcon::UpdateVisibility()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/739083 | 14:05 |
| didrocks | fta2: yeah? | 14:05 |
| fta2 | another crasher | 14:05 |
| fta2 | many dupes | 14:05 |
| didrocks | fta2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/737318 | 14:06 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 737318 in unity (Ubuntu) "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in DeviceLauncherIcon::UpdateVisibility()" [High,Confirmed] | 14:06 |
| fta2 | oh | 14:06 |
| fta2 | mine was a dupe too | 14:06 |
| fta2 | well, if you already know, i'm fine | 14:06 |
| didrocks | fta2: yeah, we should get a fix this wekk | 14:07 |
| didrocks | week* | 14:07 |
| fta2 | i hate crashers, even if i would prefer fixes for 739205 & 728428 & 692463 | 14:08 |
| didrocks | fta2: yeah, right now, respawn and crashers are the first focus | 14:10 |
| aruiz | kenvandine, 0.1.0 | 14:17 |
| aruiz | kenvandine, :-) | 14:17 |
| kenvandine | aruiz, woot | 14:18 |
| kenvandine | aruiz, highlights for the changelog? | 14:18 |
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| aruiz | kenvandine, fixed crashers when opening the printpreview and the formula editor | 15:00 |
| aruiz | kenvandine, no bug id for those | 15:00 |
| aruiz | kenvandine, code cleanup | 15:00 |
| aruiz | kenvandine, and documentation in README/HACKING | 15:00 |
| kenvandine | aruiz, yeah... i already found that and uploaded | 15:00 |
| kenvandine | :) | 15:00 |
| jordan | any appmenu-gtk devs around? | 15:35 |
| jordan | I'd like a second pair of eyes to look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/transmission/+bug/718223 | 15:36 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 718223 in transmission (Ubuntu) "transmission-gtk crashed with SIGSEGV in g_atomic_int_exchange_and_add()" [Medium,Incomplete] | 15:36 |
| jordan | the crash seems to be happening in register_application_window_cb() inside of appmenu-gtk | 15:37 |
| seb128 | jordan, try pinging tedg or mterry | 15:44 |
| * mterry looks | 15:46 | |
| * tedg clicks | 15:46 | |
| mterry | jordan, this may be a dup of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appmenu-gtk/+bug/729065 | 15:52 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 729065 in appmenu-gtk (Ubuntu Natty) "gnome-display-properties crashed with SIGSEGV in g_object_set()" [High,Fix released] | 15:52 |
| mterry | jordan, in which case, it is fixed as of the 10th. is it still reproducable? | 15:53 |
| jordan | mterry: OP reports that it happened "everytime" on 3/16 but I'm not seeing the behavior | 15:59 |
| jordan | it's also possible he hadn't / hasn't updated to the newest version | 16:00 |
| kenvandine | wow, i just hit that unity focus problem... haven't seen that in ages... | 16:13 |
| kenvandine | can't click on the launcher :/ | 16:13 |
| kenvandine | seb128, do you know the bug number for that focus bug where you can't click on the launcher... clicks go right though | 16:19 |
| * kenvandine is always amazed at seb128's bug finding magic | 16:20 | |
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| apinheiro | jaytaoko, can I make you a question? | 16:20 |
| jaytaoko | apinheiro: sure | 16:22 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, sorry but I don't know about this bug | 16:22 |
| apinheiro | jaytaoko, I realized that BaseWindow has the signal sigVisible, but as it is an Area subclass (via View) | 16:22 |
| apinheiro | it also has the signal | 16:22 |
| apinheiro | OnVisibleChanged | 16:23 |
| apinheiro | what signal I should use in order to know when the BaseWindow change his visible status? | 16:23 |
| kenvandine | ah, bug 737420 | 16:23 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 737420 in unity (Ubuntu) "Windows are maximized under Unity Launcher and receive clicks when clicking on Lanucher icons" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/737420 | 16:23 |
| kenvandine | i am sure there was a bug like this in the past that was fixed | 16:24 |
| apinheiro | jaytaoko, well, and also remembered that the WindowCompositor emit this signal | 16:27 |
| apinheiro | as I asked for that | 16:27 |
| jaytaoko | apinheiro, yes, the WindowCompositor emits that signal | 16:27 |
| jaytaoko | apinheiro: is the WindowCompositor signal ok for you? | 16:28 |
| apinheiro | jaytaoko, ok, anyway that would be good from a third object | 16:28 |
| apinheiro | but | 16:28 |
| apinheiro | in the case of the basewindow itself | 16:28 |
| apinheiro | what should I use? | 16:28 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Are you looking into bug 730528, how should I triage it? | 16:28 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 730528 in libappindicator (Ubuntu) "Impossible to inherit a class from AppIndicator*.Indicator in Python (gir)" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730528 | 16:28 |
| apinheiro | I tried to connect to BaseWindow sigVisible signal | 16:28 |
| apinheiro | and it seems that it is not called | 16:28 |
| jaytaoko | apinheiro: let me check | 16:29 |
| kenvandine | tedg, not sure, probably should be a low... there is a work around | 16:29 |
| kenvandine | to specify the constructor | 16:29 |
| kenvandine | there are quite a few cases like that i have seen | 16:30 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Okay, but "Confirmed" is appropriate? | 16:30 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 16:30 |
| dbarth | klattimer: ping? | 16:31 |
| klattimer | hey | 16:32 |
| dbarth | klattimer: can't remember if you merged your branch with the ask_password fix? | 16:32 |
| dbarth | ie, to mark https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/724856 fixed | 16:32 |
| ubot5 | Error: Launchpad bug 724856 not found | 16:32 |
| klattimer | dbarth: I think it was, my browser is slow though | 16:33 |
| dbarth | ah, the bug is still marked private for whatever reason | 16:33 |
| jaytaoko | apinheiro: on which BaseWindow were you trying to get the sigVisible signal? | 16:33 |
| apinheiro | jaytaoko, on the main three | 16:34 |
| apinheiro | launcher | 16:34 |
| apinheiro | dash | 16:34 |
| artfwo | kenvandine, tedg that bug does not have a workaround - it makes subclassing Indicators impossible | 16:34 |
| apinheiro | and panel service | 16:34 |
| apinheiro | the ones that we are looking at | 16:34 |
| apinheiro | at this moment | 16:34 |
| dbarth | klattimer: can you check and mark the bug accordingly? | 16:34 |
| kenvandine | oh, true | 16:34 |
| dbarth | klattimer: i'll move it to this week's milestone, just in case | 16:34 |
| klattimer | dbarth: it hasn't been merged yet | 16:34 |
| kenvandine | artfwo, there are quite a few cases where that is true with gir though | 16:34 |
| artfwo | kenvandine, unfortunately, I've stumbled upon it when porting over my indicator to gir (I had a MyIndicator(Indicator) subclass) | 16:35 |
| kenvandine | artfwo, yeah | 16:36 |
| jaytaoko | apinheiro: on the Dash I think there maybe a bug. But on the launcher it should be working... | 16:36 |
| jaytaoko | apinheiro: are you getting that signal from the launcher? | 16:37 |
| kenvandine | artfwo, i think that happens wherever there is more than one constructor available | 16:37 |
| kenvandine | in this case new and new_with_path | 16:37 |
| apinheiro | jaytaoko, sigVisible? | 16:38 |
| jaytaoko | apinheiro: The launcher itself is not a BaseWindow, you have to get the signal from the container of the Launcher | 16:38 |
| kenvandine | although i would think there would be a way for it to know which is the default | 16:38 |
| apinheiro | or you mean the signal defined on Area? | 16:38 |
| jaytaoko | apinheiro: yes, sigVisible | 16:38 |
| apinheiro | jaytaoko, no, Im not getting that signal from the BaseWindow that contains the launcher | 16:38 |
| apinheiro | in fact this is why Im asking if I should use other signal | 16:38 |
| apinheiro | right now I will try to use the windowcompositor one | 16:39 |
| apinheiro | I also tested the Area ones, as BaseWindow is also an area | 16:39 |
| apinheiro | but it didn't work either | 16:39 |
| artfwo | kenvandine, anything like superclass.__init__() in the gir world simply calls g_object_new in the c world | 16:39 |
| jaytaoko | apinheiro: yes, OnVisibleChanged is not completely hooked yet, do not use it | 16:40 |
| kenvandine | artfwo, yeah we could include an overrides file | 16:40 |
| apinheiro | jaytaoko, ok | 16:40 |
| apinheiro | anyway, as I said | 16:40 |
| apinheiro | sigVisible doesn't seems to work either | 16:40 |
| kenvandine | artfwo, just seems to me there should be a more general way to fix this | 16:40 |
| apinheiro | at least in my tests | 16:40 |
| LLStarks | a wild shuttleworth apppears: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/739068/comments/2 | 16:40 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 739068 in unity (Ubuntu) "Cycling through multiple windows of an application needs improvement" [Undecided,New] | 16:40 |
| kenvandine | artfwo, since it seems to happen in many cases | 16:40 |
| apinheiro | jaytaoko, if the launcher is hidden | 16:40 |
| apinheiro | and I press alt+f1 to start to | 16:40 |
| apinheiro | interact to it | 16:41 |
| apinheiro | that signal should be emitted, right? | 16:41 |
| artfwo | kenvandine, please comment in the bug, if you know the solution sometime :) | 16:41 |
| kenvandine | artfwo, well i am going to fix it :) | 16:41 |
| jaytaoko | apinheiro: wait, I am not sure about that | 16:41 |
| kenvandine | either with an override or other | 16:41 |
| Kaleo | jcastro: hi! do you know how much time it takes for somebody who does not know Unity to implement a very simple place? | 16:41 |
| jaytaoko | apinheiro: I think the launcher is not really "hidden" in the code. It is just moved outside of the screen | 16:42 |
| jcastro | Kaleo: it took stefano about 2 hours of sort of poking around and asking some questions | 16:42 |
| jcastro | Kaleo: for his first one. I suspect if he does another one it will be easier | 16:42 |
| jaytaoko | apinheiro: I think the launcher is always visible and it is just translate in or out of the screen | 16:43 |
| LLStarks | jcastro, is there a hotkey for the appmenu in unity? | 16:43 |
| apinheiro | jaytaoko, ah ok | 16:43 |
| jcastro | LLStarks: f10 | 16:43 |
| LLStarks | thx | 16:43 |
| apinheiro | this is also the case with the dash? | 16:43 |
| jcastro | or alt-f or whatever normal one the apps have | 16:43 |
| LLStarks | firefox is alt+f | 16:43 |
| jaytaoko | apinheiro: no the dash is hidden in the code... but I think there is a bug there... let me check... | 16:44 |
| jcastro | Kaleo: there's an example python place that we point people too if he wants to whip one up. http://www.grillbar.org/wordpress/?p=544 | 16:44 |
| apinheiro | jaytaoko, on the dash it works | 16:45 |
| apinheiro | I properly get the notification of a visibility change | 16:45 |
| apinheiro | so you are right about the launcher | 16:45 |
| apinheiro | probably it is always visible, but "out of the window" | 16:46 |
| LLStarks | i honestly think the unity learning curve is going to be difficult unless all of the unity hotkeys are made readily apparent before download during a features tour or during ubiquity installation | 16:46 |
| apinheiro | in fact, "out of the screen" | 16:46 |
| jaytaoko | apinheiro: ok so that is good for the dash... I thought there was a bug there | 16:46 |
| apinheiro | jaytaoko, yes, no problem | 16:46 |
| apinheiro | jaytaoko, just one last question | 16:46 |
| apinheiro | about the focus | 16:46 |
| jaytaoko | apinheiro: as for the launcher, yes I think it is just "out of the screen" | 16:46 |
| apinheiro | in the end when you start to interact with the basewindow | 16:46 |
| apinheiro | just the launcher gets the focus, right? | 16:46 |
| Moc | The only thing that I didn't catch, is the middle button that can be used to start a new instance of an application from the launcher | 16:47 |
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| apinheiro | I mean, the basewindow gets the focus | 16:47 |
| apinheiro | jaytaoko, there is any way to know which is the "active window" on that moment= | 16:47 |
| apinheiro | ? | 16:47 |
| Moc | I got lot of complaint about unity, but I think it show interest to progress from the linux legacy look | 16:48 |
| jaytaoko | apinheiro: let me check... | 16:48 |
| Moc | For home/low usage desktop, I think unity is great | 16:48 |
| Kaleo | jcastro: nice to know, did Stefano do it in Python? | 16:50 |
| jcastro | yeah | 16:50 |
| jcastro | lp:askubuntu-lense | 16:51 |
| Moc | I find unity require too much mouse movement. Everything is far | 16:51 |
| Kaleo | jcastro: thanks! | 16:52 |
| jcastro | Kaleo: send the person my way when they have something, I'd like to highlight all the lenses people are making, and also kamstrup is doing a great job answering questions so you can send the guy here too | 16:53 |
| jaytaoko | apinheiro: that would depend on the definition of focus. following Alt+F1, the launcher window is placed on top of all the other BaseWindow. That is how it gets the key events first... | 16:54 |
| jaytaoko | apinheiro: but it does not have the "focus" | 16:55 |
| apinheiro | jaytaoko, well, in the case of the launcher, i know that it have the focus because I connect to the signal OnStartFocus | 16:55 |
| apinheiro | and this is fine | 16:56 |
| apinheiro | because is the object you are interacting with at | 16:56 |
| apinheiro | that moment | 16:56 |
| apinheiro | but it is also true that at that moment | 16:56 |
| apinheiro | the "active" BaseWindow | 16:56 |
| apinheiro | is the one that contains the launcher | 16:56 |
| apinheiro | there is any way to know which is the BaseWindow active on that moment | 16:56 |
| apinheiro | any signal? | 16:56 |
| * apinheiro checking gtk doc | 16:56 | |
| jaytaoko | apinheiro: you are right | 16:56 |
| jaytaoko | apinheiro: tyhe launcher receives a focus... we just implemented a grab mechanism that gives the pointer or mouse focus to an area. | 16:57 |
| LLStarks | trying to figure out exactly which projects bug 739506 should be filed against. i probably dun goofed. | 16:58 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 739506 in unity (Ubuntu) "Keyboard shortcuts are critical to the Unity experience and should be readily apparent." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/739506 | 16:58 |
| LLStarks | not sure if ayatana design is appropriate | 16:58 |
| apinheiro | jaytaoko, so, any way to know which is the current active BaseWindow? | 16:59 |
| jaytaoko | apinheiro: I think you are looking for the BaseWindow that contains the area that has the pointer or keyboard grab | 16:59 |
| lamalex | can anyone tell me if this is true? https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/735120 | 16:59 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 735120 in unity (Ubuntu) "print screen key no longer works in unity" [Undecided,New] | 16:59 |
| apinheiro | one way would be just "set as active" the BaseWindow that contains the focused object | 16:59 |
| lamalex | is it false in gnome 2.x? | 16:59 |
| jaytaoko | apinheiro: let me check... | 17:00 |
| jcastro | LLStarks: there's a project on lp for the opening animation thing. I can't remember what it is though | 17:00 |
| jcastro | the tour in the installer | 17:02 |
| fta | jcastro, hi, any update on the webapps issue? | 17:04 |
| LLStarks | probably the ubiquity project or something associated. | 17:04 |
| jcastro | fta: no response yet | 17:05 |
| fta | ok :( | 17:07 |
| DBO | apinheiro, i need you to test a branch for ATK regressions | 17:08 |
| DBO | apinheiro, https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/unity.hide-cleanup/+merge/54167 | 17:08 |
| apinheiro | DBO, Im right now compiling those branches | 17:08 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 54167 in mozilla-thunderbird (Ubuntu) "purging configuration files does not do its job" [Medium,Confirmed] | 17:08 |
| DBO | apinheiro, super dude | 17:08 |
| DBO | thanks | 17:08 |
| apinheiro | DBO, no problem, thanks to you | 17:08 |
| lamalex | guys, this is a bug in chromium or compiz? https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/735363 | 17:10 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 735363 in unity (Ubuntu) ""Use system title bar and borders" messes up Chromium integration with Unity" [Undecided,New] | 17:10 |
| lamalex | i would imagine it's chromium doing something funny | 17:10 |
| LLStarks | the global appmenu is ridiculously misguided with respect to un maximized apps. | 17:11 |
| DBO | LLStarks, the mailing list is trolled by design more than this IRC channel | 17:14 |
| LLStarks | i avoid mailing lists whenever possible because of the gated access makes everything so elitist | 17:17 |
| LLStarks | lp is the great equalizer. post a bug, it goes to ayatana-bugs automatically. | 17:17 |
| LLStarks | who needs mailing lists when you have a benevolent dictator being the first to comment on your bug? | 17:18 |
| apinheiro | DBO, after my test it seems to work fine, | 17:20 |
| apinheiro | well at least | 17:20 |
| apinheiro | "as fine as before" | 17:20 |
| DBO | WEWT! | 17:20 |
| DBO | apinheiro, can you approve in the review too then | 17:21 |
| DBO | njpatel, ^^ my hear is all a-flutter | 17:21 |
| DBO | heart* | 17:21 |
| apinheiro | as it seems that at-spi and at-spi2 behaves different, Im trying to solve it | 17:21 |
| apinheiro | DBO, ok, I will also take a look to the code, but as I said, at | 17:21 |
| apinheiro | it is working as without ig | 17:21 |
| apinheiro | s/ig/it | 17:21 |
| DBO | i just needed you to approve based on it not breaking your stuff | 17:22 |
| DBO | yu are not responsible for the code review itself | 17:22 |
| DBO | (3 reviews are requested on that branch) | 17:22 |
| apinheiro | DBO, as far as I see this changes is more about how to hide/show it | 17:22 |
| apinheiro | but current support is based on the launcher icon selected | 17:22 |
| apinheiro | and if the launcher has the focus or not | 17:22 |
| apinheiro | and this seems to have not changed | 17:22 |
| DBO | apinheiro, you checked in places too right? | 17:23 |
| apinheiro | (where "support"=="a11y support") | 17:23 |
| DBO | because i made some BIG changes there | 17:23 |
| apinheiro | DBO, well, right now there isn't any a11y support on places | 17:23 |
| apinheiro | last week I was busy with a regression and other things | 17:23 |
| njpatel | DBO, awesome, I'll finish off the review in 30mins wrt places | 17:23 |
| apinheiro | so as I need to start from zero on places | 17:23 |
| apinheiro | it doesn't matter if it is before or after your change | 17:24 |
| DBO | perfect | 17:24 |
| apinheiro | DBO, anyway, as Im seeing the code, there are also some changes on the panel | 17:29 |
| apinheiro | so it is still missing rodrigo review | 17:29 |
| DBO | yeah some small ones | 17:29 |
| apinheiro | as he was the one that implemented the a11y support for the panel-service | 17:29 |
| apinheiro | so it would be better if he test/review that part | 17:29 |
| apinheiro | DBO, I have just approved that branch, and included rodrigo on it | 17:38 |
| DBO | thank you | 17:39 |
| apinheiro | DBO, you are welcome | 17:39 |
| apinheiro | njpatel, BTW, as we are talking about review | 17:39 |
| apinheiro | s | 17:39 |
| apinheiro | could you review this: | 17:39 |
| apinheiro | https://code.launchpad.net/~apinheiro/nux/Bug734803/+merge/54190 | 17:39 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 54190 in linux-source-2.6.15 (Ubuntu) "Bluetooth doesn't work (HP Pavilion dv8220ea)" [Undecided,Invalid] | 17:39 |
| apinheiro | or ask somebody to test it? | 17:39 |
| DBO | im less worried about the panel | 17:40 |
| apinheiro | DBO, yes | 17:40 |
| apinheiro | as most of the work was done on the panel-service | 17:40 |
| apinheiro | right now unity just expose the button there | 17:40 |
| apinheiro | but just in case | 17:40 |
| om26er | nnnaji, question: how do you read 'Nnaji' ? | 18:19 |
| nnnaji | naaa geee ;) | 18:19 |
| om26er | too bad he left, in Urdu it means 'no, dear' :) | 18:20 |
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| kenvandine | wow bug 737420 is driving me crazy... i was just reading an email in evolution full screen and i saw the window slide under the launcher | 18:30 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 737420 in unity "Windows are maximized under Unity Launcher and receive clicks when clicking on Lanucher icons" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/737420 | 18:30 |
| kenvandine | without me even doing anything | 18:30 |
| Moc | yea, the launcher poping up and doesn't auto hide is really annoyin | 18:47 |
| lamalex | anyone around? can someone please confirm or deny https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/735120 | 19:04 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 735120 in unity (Ubuntu) "print screen key no longer works in unity" [Undecided,New] | 19:04 |
| Moc | sorry, I'm back on 10.10 for the moment | 19:06 |
| lamalex | jcastro, ^ | 19:06 |
| lamalex | apinheiro, https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/735645 >:O | 19:20 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 735645 in nux (Ubuntu) "Timestamp field on the event structure is always 0" [Undecided,New] | 19:20 |
| apinheiro | lamalex, yes? | 19:20 |
| apinheiro | ah | 19:20 |
| apinheiro | sorry | 19:20 |
| apinheiro | I should confirm it | 19:20 |
| apinheiro | right? | 19:21 |
| lamalex | yeah, or triaged if you know how to fix it already | 19:21 |
| lamalex | and assign whoever is supposed to work on it | 19:21 |
| apinheiro | well, I don't know to to fix it now | 19:21 |
| apinheiro | I suppose that x11 structures includes that timestamps | 19:22 |
| apinheiro | but not sure | 19:22 |
| apinheiro | and don't know who solve it | 19:22 |
| apinheiro | so I just put Confirmed | 19:22 |
| lamalex | well nux is usually good to assign to jay | 19:22 |
| apinheiro | lamalex, so I directly assign that bug to him? | 19:37 |
| lamalex | yah | 19:37 |
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| jporsini | kenvandine, ping? | 20:04 |
| kenvandine | jporsini, pong | 20:05 |
| jporsini | kenvandine, I am close to finish the pidgin patch, but I have one bug that I cannot find a solution | 20:06 |
| jporsini | kenvandine, during the shutdown of pidgin, it is impossible to modify the unity launcher entry | 20:06 |
| jporsini | kenvandine, it seems that the dbus events are not sent | 20:06 |
| jporsini | kenvandine, I guess it is due to the fact that gtk event bus is shutdown before | 20:06 |
| jporsini | kenvandine, do you have some hints? Is there a way to force emitting of dbus unity events? | 20:07 |
| kenvandine | how does it clear the indicator? | 20:07 |
| kenvandine | i would think if would work if you put it in the same code path | 20:07 |
| jporsini | it does not.... | 20:07 |
| jporsini | I am exactly in the same path | 20:08 |
| kenvandine | ugh... | 20:08 |
| kenvandine | so it only gets removed from the indicator because it dies? | 20:08 |
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| jporsini | kenvandine, it is never removed from the indicator, or at least it is longer than my patience | 20:08 |
| kenvandine | it wouldn't get removed complete | 20:09 |
| kenvandine | but the triangle next to it should | 20:09 |
| kenvandine | and if there are pending messages | 20:09 |
| kenvandine | those should get removed | 20:09 |
| jporsini | yes there no more triangle on the left | 20:09 |
| jporsini | but the pidgin entry is still here | 20:09 |
| kenvandine | yeah, that is a launcher | 20:09 |
| jporsini | Haaaa | 20:09 |
| jporsini | well, it seems that there is just a call to indicate_server_hide in plugin_unload which is where I am calling without sucess the entry_set_visible(false) | 20:13 |
| jporsini | I am going to investigate what this function is exactly doing, thanks | 20:13 |
| kenvandine | jporsini, anytime | 20:14 |
| jporsini | pfffff, it is a function of libindicate, it owns the dbus connection and co, and directly emit the dbus event... | 20:20 |
| jporsini | I cannot do the same `:( | 20:20 |
| jporsini | no equivalent of indicate_server_hide in unity lib `:( | 20:32 |
| bcurtiswx | when something crashes i'd typically gdb it.. but with unity what would I do? | 20:42 |
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| === ogra is now known as Guest27445 | ||
| Omega | Daekdroom: Did you update your gstreamer0.10-plugins-good to version 0.10.21-1ubuntu6? It removes ubuntu-desktop and packages for me. | 21:14 |
| Daekdroom | Omega, that package is marked as "broken", I believe | 21:14 |
| Daekdroom | but it didn't remove anything. | 21:15 |
| Omega | It conflicts with a whole bunch of stuff here. | 21:15 |
| Daekdroom | Obter:6 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty/main gstreamer0.10-plugins-good i386 0.10.28-0ubuntu3 [1.573 kB] | 21:16 |
| Daekdroom | Ran safe-upgrade now. | 21:16 |
| Daekdroom | There is a package being held back | 21:17 |
| Daekdroom | gnome-user-guide | 21:17 |
| Daekdroom | and now everything is on its place.. | 21:18 |
| Omega | I upgraded the user guide. | 21:18 |
| Omega | What do you mean everything is on its place? | 21:19 |
| Daekdroom | No packages are broken or being held back. | 21:19 |
| ricaxe | hello7 | 22:10 |
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| ronoc | DanRabbit, hey | 22:42 |
| DanRabbit | ronoc: hey there | 22:42 |
| ronoc | DanRabbit, have those voip icons made into natty ? | 22:42 |
| DanRabbit | ronoc: it doesn't look like that branch has been merged yet :/ | 22:42 |
| ronoc | DanRabbit, who is responsible for that ? | 22:42 |
| ronoc | DanRabbit, is there a packager you know of who takes care of the icons ? | 22:43 |
| DanRabbit | ronoc: not sure to be honest. It was Ken Wiimer who had control over icon stuff before. | 22:43 |
| DanRabbit | ronoc: I think kenvandine is packaging now, but I'm not sure who should merge work into trunk | 22:43 |
| ronoc | DanRabbit, okay grand i'll talk to ken | 22:44 |
| ronoc | DanRabbit, thanks for doing those playlist icons so quickly | 22:44 |
| DanRabbit | ronoc: no problem :) | 22:44 |
| ronoc | DanRabbit, i'll hopefully get to try them out tomorrow | 22:44 |
| ronoc | so we can chat tomorrow evening to see where we are at, but hopefully all should be good for the UI freeze | 22:45 |
| ronoc | DanRabbit, ^ | 22:45 |
| DanRabbit | okay sounds good ;) | 22:45 |
| ronoc | sweet | 22:45 |
| ronoc | good night | 22:45 |
| ronoc | DanRabbit, are the voip icons in that branch you sent on also ? | 22:57 |
| ronoc | DanRabbit, is it Otto who should do that merge request ? | 22:57 |
| DanRabbit | ronoc: right, they are all together in that branch | 22:57 |
| ronoc | nice | 22:58 |
| DanRabbit | ronoc: that's possible. I was working with him when I started the branch at the last UDS :p | 22:58 |
| ronoc | DanRabbit, okay cool I'll hassle him first thing | 22:58 |
| ronoc | defo gone this time, laters | 22:58 |
| DanRabbit | ronoc: cool thanks bye | 22:59 |
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