[00:04] I'm sorry for all the bug report I've done today [00:22] bug 739068 kudasai [00:22] Launchpad bug 739068 in unity (Ubuntu) "Multiple Super+Num keypresses should cycle through multiple windows of an open application" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/739068 [00:49] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/gnome-shell-smooth-inset-theme-is-light-airy-and-beautiful/#comment-168710449 [00:49] good for a laugh [00:54] hey, godbyk! [00:54] long time no chat :) [01:22] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10582383 [03:08] is wayland feasible for oneiric? [03:11] Depends on what you mean. [03:18] implementation-level, rather than just as an experimental display method and sandbox. [03:19] If we dumped a bunch of resources into it I suspect we could default to wayland for oneric. [03:19] Assuming you're ok with throwing the binary drivers under the bus. [03:21] if prime gpu switching materializes this summer, i would. === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth [03:24] Buy me a switchable-graphics laptop and I'll work on it for you :) [04:23] it sucks when driver development requires investing in machines that may never work properly [04:23] i'm sure nvidia could do something that works within the constraints of x. [04:39] sladen: I hope you don't hate me too much [05:27] Moc: not at all! File away, there are tonnes of bugs to find and it's very useful that you are hunting them down and taking the time to document them [05:28] Moc: testing is a very important, and often forgotten aspect of development [05:30] true, just that I'm a little late to report them [05:31] I really didn't like the unity idea, I like my current desktop look. But I must say I wasn't as disapointed as I though I would be [05:33] I think, mostly as it, it be great for mostly every light usage [05:33] Moc: I think other people share your thoughts too [05:35] Moc: the GNOME 2D panel won't be there forever. Everyone is being forced to jump (GNOME 3 Shell/Unity). Hopefully the presence of Unity means that the jump is shorter and less of a step/surprise [05:35] it's a logical progression. [05:35] linux needs a fresh face [05:35] LLStarks: I agree [05:36] The problem I find with a left dock (or any docs) is it reduice the clear txt list of active windows running [05:36] "Launcher" [05:37] also, the move to the OSX style to have the file/edit at a single location is really bad for multi screen setup... no idea how Apple lover stand it [05:37] yup, and another is the spatial assocation. For instance on a taskbar, the first terminal (right at one edge) is the one with my email in it [05:37] sladen: yes,, I need to learn the right term, thx [05:38] under Unity who knows which Terminal I'm going to get when I click the Terminal icon (I have 10+ open) [05:38] well 41 terminals [05:38] exactly, having a list of group terminal show at the right of the Launcher Application icon might be what needed [05:39] but a lot of that is down to Alt-Tab disrupting the stack order (Fix now Committed I believe) [05:39] One annoying default Alt-Tab setting is the 200ms delay before the list of window is shown [05:40] I figured out today that it actually a setting ! But I think it should be at 0 by default [05:41] I also change it so the background window switching when I press alt-tab is darker, because I was really being hypnotize when I was going from a white page to a black terminal [05:41] I couldn't find a way to make it display on both screen or on the screen where the cursor is on [05:42] Moc: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/683635 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684843 I think. Please add your thoughts on those bug reports [05:42] Ubuntu bug 683635 in compiz (Ubuntu) "remove fade from the compiz plugin list" [Medium,Fix released] [05:42] Ubuntu bug 684843 in compiz-plugins-main (Ubuntu Natty) "staticswitcher/ Alt-Tab can be slow to appear" [High,Fix released] [05:42] Anyway, I'm very picky to these details [05:44] Moc: join the club. Being picky about details is how Ayatana and Ubuntu got to where they are [05:46] When you use a OS more than 14 hours per day ! Everything picky stuff matter ! [05:46] :) [05:47] talking of which, it's past 5am, and I should be getting up about now, not going to sleep! [05:47] about the same, I need to get up in 3 hours [05:55] unity need lot of work in multi screen experience [05:58] yo guys, how do i bugfile against the ppa scrollbars? === _LibertyZero is now known as LibertyZero [06:10] I dont understand where File Edit Etc bar is for firefox [06:10] running compiz and unity-panel [06:10] Even when the window isn't maximized, this bar is not present [06:11] Where is it hiding? [06:12] soreau: Move your mouse up tot he top panel, and you should see the menus appear... Its personally a bad design IMO. [06:12] The hidden menus by default that is. [06:15] TheMuso: I can only grab the title bar there, no other menus clicking any which way [06:15] And don't start talking about design [06:15] (don't get me started, srsly) [06:16] I only want to learn enough how to use this thing so I can support other users that will be a kabillion times more confused than me at using their desktop [06:19] Not exactly smooth transition from the expected gnome desktop experience [06:22] hrm don't know whats going on then. [06:22] soreau: if you want the file/edit... back in your window, sudo apt-get remove indicator-appmenu [06:23] and logout and log back in [06:32] Hello. I am writing a patch to move the launcher to other locations (Top, Bottom, Left, Right). Any tips in where Launcher.h|cpp is documented or where to look? I am not keen to filter through 4k lines of cpp this afternoon. [06:58] bwright, you are welcome to ask me questions [06:58] but you are not going to easily just move to a positionable launcher right now [06:59] bwright, I wish I could tell you that we engineered the whole thing to be positionable [06:59] but we just never had the time to make it that clean [06:59] and with changing designs the code gets stale and ugly quick [07:18] Moc: Thanks, that was ridiculous [07:18] What's going on there? [07:24] DBO: Alright how tied to the left is it? [07:25] imagine driving two trains head on into each other at 100 MPH [07:25] then try to separate them... [07:25] and yes, I purposely use the trainwreck analogy here [07:26] Arlight, so I am looking at a major refactoring. [07:27] When/where is the launcher actually drawn to the screen? [07:27] What is this unity thing modeled after? [07:27] there is a method called DrawContent [07:27] what do you mean? [07:28] Quite possibly the most confusing way to use a desktop, evar [07:29] DBO: Cheers found it I am going to give this reactoring a shot. It may take a while for it to be remotely functional [07:42] there is no preview in ring switcher for vncviewer from xtightvncviewer package [07:51] good morning [07:52] morning didrocks [07:52] didja get my email? [07:52] hey DBO! [07:52] DBO: didn't finish the emails, just back from a 3 days week-end, still have hundreds :) [07:56] hi [07:56] guys, please re-open bug 724874 [07:56] Launchpad bug 724874 in unity (Ubuntu Natty) "unity-window-decorator crashed with SIGSEGV in g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__OBJECT()" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/724874 [07:56] smspillaz|zzz: ^^ [07:56] DBO: You guys aren't planning on enabling the blur plugin by default anytime soon, were you? [07:56] the hell ? === smspillaz|zzz is now known as smspillaz [07:56] RAOF: no [07:57] fta2: how did you reproduce it ? [07:57] RAOF, no [07:57] DBO: smspillaz: Rock. [07:57] smspillaz, closing googleearth, see #20 [07:57] ok [07:57] So I don't have to treat r600g's blur craziness as an OMGCRITICAL. Superb. [07:57] i meant , #23 [07:57] *sigh* have to install proprietary software :/ [07:59] smspillaz, #22 said it happens with banshee too [07:59] does it happen all the time ? [07:59] is it random or reliable ? [08:00] not sure [08:00] i'm not on the same machine right now [08:00] oh, hrm, the stacktraces are actually useful now [08:01] when I was doing this before there was stack corruption and it made debugging this a complete pain [08:01] yep, i attached a fully resolved trace [08:01] wouldn't have bothered otherwise [08:02] uh-huh ... the version ubuntu is using and upstream is using differs slightly [08:02] my lin 726 is just blak [08:02] *blank [08:04] win = [08:04] d = 0x0 [08:04] iter = 0x0 [08:04] what the hell? [08:05] why on earth would d have two values!?!?! [08:05] * smspillaz thinks something is up here [08:05] hey folks [08:05] hi MacSlow [08:05] hi smspillaz [08:12] didrocks, last friday, i filed a bug with a unity/compiz crash on startup: bug 737814 [08:12] Launchpad bug 737814 in compiz (Ubuntu) "compiz crashed with SIGABRT in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/737814 [08:12] raof, speaking of blur: http://i.imgur.com/27wr1.png [08:12] fta2: thanks, I'll add it to the list of this week fix [08:12] failblur [08:14] good morning [08:19] boom, compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in DeviceLauncherIcon::UpdateVisibility() [08:21] good morning [08:22] an idea when unity and nux will be updated please? [08:44] bug 739068 [08:44] Launchpad bug 739068 in unity (Ubuntu) "Cycling through multiple windows of an application needs improvement" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/739068 [09:04] DBO: Oh, by the way? Your nux commit fixes the unity crash for me. Also, HOW DO YOU STAND THE NUX BUILD TIME?!‽ [09:08] RAOF, have you tried to build it w/o documentation (--disable-documentation)? seems to save some time. [09:10] RAOF, i make sammiches [09:10] RAOF, also, make -j4 [09:13] RAOF: don't complain, you don't build the doc as well :) [09:14] RAOF: which asks for a pbuilder :/ [09:18] DBO, what should i do when getting an invisible window on all workspaces? it happened twice in the last week, i have no idea what's causing it and what i should add to a report when i see it happening again. [09:19] uhm... didrocks ^^ [09:19] my brain is off... [09:19] htorque: xprop + click it [09:19] htorque: if it's not that important, then, you can xkill it :) [09:20] didrocks, no, invisible windows aren't that important to me :P [09:20] :) [09:22] didrocks, i only got this from the last time it happened: http://paste.ubuntu.com/575909/ [09:22] guess it doesn't help a lot [09:23] htorque: hum, not really, smspillaz is aware of this anyway [09:24] didrocks, but it's not the one in the top-left corner - it's located on the bottom half of the screen (something like this: http://img.xrmb2.net/images/335779.png) [09:27] htorque: the position depends on where compiz set it === Cimi_ is now known as Cimi [09:35] didrocks, ok, thanks! i will just follow bug 709461 for the time being :) [09:35] Launchpad bug 709461 in unity "Application windows can sometimes fail to display and will mask regions of the screen" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709461 [09:38] htorque: thanks, do not hesitate if you can find any reproducible testcase :) [09:51] good morning [09:54] didrocks, the new launcher icons don't appear when upgrading to 3.6.6 [09:54] and explicit --reset-icons call is required [09:54] hi Moc [09:54] LLStarks: which new launcher icons? [09:55] bug 714707 [09:55] Launchpad bug 714707 in unity-2d "[launcher] New Default favorites" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/714707 [09:57] in short, updating unity should reset its icons and/or settings [09:57] LLStarks: yeah, we don't upgrade unstable release users [09:57] it's a lot of work and corner cases [09:58] what if i'm alpha 1/2? they won't see unity progress unless they know specifically to reset their icons. [09:58] LLStarks: most of alpha user reinstall and don't ugprade [09:58] so I prefer spending one hour fixing actual crash than writing migration code for some folks that can reset their icons TBH [09:58] but of course, a patch for that is welcome :) [09:58] makes sense [10:00] ;) [10:04] maybe i will write a patch... the usage case warrants it imho. the launcher should refresh its icons whenever updated without being destructive to user-added launchers. [10:07] i think it'll be small things like this that'll bring unity up to par with gnome-shell's seamless and immersive look. unity, component-wise is amazing, but it lacks a comprehensive focus to make everything (indicators, global menus, etc) look pretty together. [10:18] rodrigo_: ping? [10:18] hi dbarth [10:22] rodrigo_: hi [10:22] rodrigo_: i just wanted to give you and apinheiro a heads up about DBO's lastest branch [10:22] oh, ok [10:23] rodrigo_: it fixes some more launcher issues but may create a regression with a11y again [10:23] oh, key navigation again? [10:23] rodrigo_: see lp:~unity-team/unity/unity.hide-cleanup and lp:~unity-team/nux/nux.unity-hide-cleanup [10:23] rodrigo_: not keynav [10:24] but focus/grabs may be impacted [10:24] ok [10:24] the branch is still being reviewed, as we want to be super cautious with such a late refactoring [10:24] ok [10:24] rodrigo_: but please give that one a try and subscribe to the merge prop [10:25] rodrigo_: apinheiro should already be on it as well; can you make sure he knows when he connects? [10:25] yes [10:25] thanks === ogra is now known as Guest34611 === Guest34611 is now known as ogra_ === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === chaotic_ is now known as chaotic === chaotic_ is now known as chaotic === chaotic_ is now known as chaotic === chaotic_ is now known as chaotic === chaotic_ is now known as chaotic [11:49] Kaleo: Hi - please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Lenses?action=diff&rev2=13&rev1=12 I added an (optional) signal to the place dbus API for the shell(s) to track when a place considers a search "done" [11:49] Kaleo: both place daemons support it in their trunk branches which will be released this Thur === daker_ is now known as daker === yofel_ is now known as yofel [12:25] kamstrup: nice [12:25] kamstrup: "Places are not required to emit this signal * and the Unity shell must assume that they do [12:25] the wording is a bit odd [12:36] kamstrup: thanks a lot === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === ogra_ is now known as ogra [14:04] didrocks, bug 739083 [14:04] Error: Launchpad bug 739083 could not be found [14:05] bug 739083 [14:05] Launchpad bug 739083 in unity (Ubuntu) "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in DeviceLauncherIcon::UpdateVisibility()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/739083 [14:05] fta2: yeah? [14:05] another crasher [14:05] many dupes [14:06] fta2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/737318 [14:06] Ubuntu bug 737318 in unity (Ubuntu) "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in DeviceLauncherIcon::UpdateVisibility()" [High,Confirmed] [14:06] oh [14:06] mine was a dupe too [14:06] well, if you already know, i'm fine [14:07] fta2: yeah, we should get a fix this wekk [14:07] week* [14:08] i hate crashers, even if i would prefer fixes for 739205 & 728428 & 692463 [14:10] fta2: yeah, right now, respawn and crashers are the first focus [14:17] kenvandine, 0.1.0 [14:17] kenvandine, :-) [14:18] aruiz, woot [14:18] aruiz, highlights for the changelog? === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [15:00] kenvandine, fixed crashers when opening the printpreview and the formula editor [15:00] kenvandine, no bug id for those [15:00] kenvandine, code cleanup [15:00] kenvandine, and documentation in README/HACKING [15:00] aruiz, yeah... i already found that and uploaded [15:00] :) [15:35] any appmenu-gtk devs around? [15:36] I'd like a second pair of eyes to look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/transmission/+bug/718223 [15:36] Ubuntu bug 718223 in transmission (Ubuntu) "transmission-gtk crashed with SIGSEGV in g_atomic_int_exchange_and_add()" [Medium,Incomplete] [15:37] the crash seems to be happening in register_application_window_cb() inside of appmenu-gtk [15:44] jordan, try pinging tedg or mterry [15:46] * mterry looks [15:46] * tedg clicks [15:52] jordan, this may be a dup of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appmenu-gtk/+bug/729065 [15:52] Ubuntu bug 729065 in appmenu-gtk (Ubuntu Natty) "gnome-display-properties crashed with SIGSEGV in g_object_set()" [High,Fix released] [15:53] jordan, in which case, it is fixed as of the 10th. is it still reproducable? [15:59] mterry: OP reports that it happened "everytime" on 3/16 but I'm not seeing the behavior [16:00] it's also possible he hadn't / hasn't updated to the newest version [16:13] wow, i just hit that unity focus problem... haven't seen that in ages... [16:13] can't click on the launcher :/ [16:19] seb128, do you know the bug number for that focus bug where you can't click on the launcher... clicks go right though [16:20] * kenvandine is always amazed at seb128's bug finding magic === API is now known as apinheiro [16:20] jaytaoko, can I make you a question? [16:22] apinheiro: sure [16:22] kenvandine, sorry but I don't know about this bug [16:22] jaytaoko, I realized that BaseWindow has the signal sigVisible, but as it is an Area subclass (via View) [16:22] it also has the signal [16:23] OnVisibleChanged [16:23] what signal I should use in order to know when the BaseWindow change his visible status? [16:23] ah, bug 737420 [16:23] Launchpad bug 737420 in unity (Ubuntu) "Windows are maximized under Unity Launcher and receive clicks when clicking on Lanucher icons" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/737420 [16:24] i am sure there was a bug like this in the past that was fixed [16:27] jaytaoko, well, and also remembered that the WindowCompositor emit this signal [16:27] as I asked for that [16:27] apinheiro, yes, the WindowCompositor emits that signal [16:28] apinheiro: is the WindowCompositor signal ok for you? [16:28] jaytaoko, ok, anyway that would be good from a third object [16:28] but [16:28] in the case of the basewindow itself [16:28] what should I use? [16:28] kenvandine, Are you looking into bug 730528, how should I triage it? [16:28] Launchpad bug 730528 in libappindicator (Ubuntu) "Impossible to inherit a class from AppIndicator*.Indicator in Python (gir)" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730528 [16:28] I tried to connect to BaseWindow sigVisible signal [16:28] and it seems that it is not called [16:29] apinheiro: let me check [16:29] tedg, not sure, probably should be a low... there is a work around [16:29] to specify the constructor [16:30] there are quite a few cases like that i have seen [16:30] kenvandine, Okay, but "Confirmed" is appropriate? [16:30] yeah [16:31] klattimer: ping? [16:32] hey [16:32] klattimer: can't remember if you merged your branch with the ask_password fix? [16:32] ie, to mark https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/724856 fixed [16:32] Error: Launchpad bug 724856 not found [16:33] dbarth: I think it was, my browser is slow though [16:33] ah, the bug is still marked private for whatever reason [16:33] apinheiro: on which BaseWindow were you trying to get the sigVisible signal? [16:34] jaytaoko, on the main three [16:34] launcher [16:34] dash [16:34] kenvandine, tedg that bug does not have a workaround - it makes subclassing Indicators impossible [16:34] and panel service [16:34] the ones that we are looking at [16:34] at this moment [16:34] klattimer: can you check and mark the bug accordingly? [16:34] oh, true [16:34] klattimer: i'll move it to this week's milestone, just in case [16:34] dbarth: it hasn't been merged yet [16:34] artfwo, there are quite a few cases where that is true with gir though [16:35] kenvandine, unfortunately, I've stumbled upon it when porting over my indicator to gir (I had a MyIndicator(Indicator) subclass) [16:36] artfwo, yeah [16:36] apinheiro: on the Dash I think there maybe a bug. But on the launcher it should be working... [16:37] apinheiro: are you getting that signal from the launcher? [16:37] artfwo, i think that happens wherever there is more than one constructor available [16:37] in this case new and new_with_path [16:38] jaytaoko, sigVisible? [16:38] apinheiro: The launcher itself is not a BaseWindow, you have to get the signal from the container of the Launcher [16:38] although i would think there would be a way for it to know which is the default [16:38] or you mean the signal defined on Area? [16:38] apinheiro: yes, sigVisible [16:38] jaytaoko, no, Im not getting that signal from the BaseWindow that contains the launcher [16:38] in fact this is why Im asking if I should use other signal [16:39] right now I will try to use the windowcompositor one [16:39] I also tested the Area ones, as BaseWindow is also an area [16:39] but it didn't work either [16:39] kenvandine, anything like superclass.__init__() in the gir world simply calls g_object_new in the c world [16:40] apinheiro: yes, OnVisibleChanged is not completely hooked yet, do not use it [16:40] artfwo, yeah we could include an overrides file [16:40] jaytaoko, ok [16:40] anyway, as I said [16:40] sigVisible doesn't seems to work either [16:40] artfwo, just seems to me there should be a more general way to fix this [16:40] at least in my tests [16:40] a wild shuttleworth apppears: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/739068/comments/2 [16:40] Ubuntu bug 739068 in unity (Ubuntu) "Cycling through multiple windows of an application needs improvement" [Undecided,New] [16:40] artfwo, since it seems to happen in many cases [16:40] jaytaoko, if the launcher is hidden [16:40] and I press alt+f1 to start to [16:41] interact to it [16:41] that signal should be emitted, right? [16:41] kenvandine, please comment in the bug, if you know the solution sometime :) [16:41] artfwo, well i am going to fix it :) [16:41] apinheiro: wait, I am not sure about that [16:41] either with an override or other [16:41] jcastro: hi! do you know how much time it takes for somebody who does not know Unity to implement a very simple place? [16:42] apinheiro: I think the launcher is not really "hidden" in the code. It is just moved outside of the screen [16:42] Kaleo: it took stefano about 2 hours of sort of poking around and asking some questions [16:42] Kaleo: for his first one. I suspect if he does another one it will be easier [16:43] apinheiro: I think the launcher is always visible and it is just translate in or out of the screen [16:43] jcastro, is there a hotkey for the appmenu in unity? [16:43] jaytaoko, ah ok [16:43] LLStarks: f10 [16:43] thx [16:43] this is also the case with the dash? [16:43] or alt-f or whatever normal one the apps have [16:43] firefox is alt+f [16:44] apinheiro: no the dash is hidden in the code... but I think there is a bug there... let me check... [16:44] Kaleo: there's an example python place that we point people too if he wants to whip one up. http://www.grillbar.org/wordpress/?p=544 [16:45] jaytaoko, on the dash it works [16:45] I properly get the notification of a visibility change [16:45] so you are right about the launcher [16:46] probably it is always visible, but "out of the window" [16:46] i honestly think the unity learning curve is going to be difficult unless all of the unity hotkeys are made readily apparent before download during a features tour or during ubiquity installation [16:46] in fact, "out of the screen" [16:46] apinheiro: ok so that is good for the dash... I thought there was a bug there [16:46] jaytaoko, yes, no problem [16:46] jaytaoko, just one last question [16:46] about the focus [16:46] apinheiro: as for the launcher, yes I think it is just "out of the screen" [16:46] in the end when you start to interact with the basewindow [16:46] just the launcher gets the focus, right? [16:47] The only thing that I didn't catch, is the middle button that can be used to start a new instance of an application from the launcher === alecu is now known as alecu-away [16:47] I mean, the basewindow gets the focus [16:47] jaytaoko, there is any way to know which is the "active window" on that moment= [16:47] ? [16:48] I got lot of complaint about unity, but I think it show interest to progress from the linux legacy look [16:48] apinheiro: let me check... [16:48] For home/low usage desktop, I think unity is great [16:50] jcastro: nice to know, did Stefano do it in Python? [16:50] yeah [16:51] lp:askubuntu-lense [16:51] I find unity require too much mouse movement. Everything is far [16:52] jcastro: thanks! [16:53] Kaleo: send the person my way when they have something, I'd like to highlight all the lenses people are making, and also kamstrup is doing a great job answering questions so you can send the guy here too [16:54] apinheiro: that would depend on the definition of focus. following Alt+F1, the launcher window is placed on top of all the other BaseWindow. That is how it gets the key events first... [16:55] apinheiro: but it does not have the "focus" [16:55] jaytaoko, well, in the case of the launcher, i know that it have the focus because I connect to the signal OnStartFocus [16:56] and this is fine [16:56] because is the object you are interacting with at [16:56] that moment [16:56] but it is also true that at that moment [16:56] the "active" BaseWindow [16:56] is the one that contains the launcher [16:56] there is any way to know which is the BaseWindow active on that moment [16:56] any signal? [16:56] * apinheiro checking gtk doc [16:56] apinheiro: you are right [16:57] apinheiro: tyhe launcher receives a focus... we just implemented a grab mechanism that gives the pointer or mouse focus to an area. [16:58] trying to figure out exactly which projects bug 739506 should be filed against. i probably dun goofed. [16:58] Launchpad bug 739506 in unity (Ubuntu) "Keyboard shortcuts are critical to the Unity experience and should be readily apparent." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/739506 [16:58] not sure if ayatana design is appropriate [16:59] jaytaoko, so, any way to know which is the current active BaseWindow? [16:59] apinheiro: I think you are looking for the BaseWindow that contains the area that has the pointer or keyboard grab [16:59] can anyone tell me if this is true? https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/735120 [16:59] Ubuntu bug 735120 in unity (Ubuntu) "print screen key no longer works in unity" [Undecided,New] [16:59] one way would be just "set as active" the BaseWindow that contains the focused object [16:59] is it false in gnome 2.x? [17:00] apinheiro: let me check... [17:00] LLStarks: there's a project on lp for the opening animation thing. I can't remember what it is though [17:02] the tour in the installer [17:04] jcastro, hi, any update on the webapps issue? [17:04] probably the ubiquity project or something associated. [17:05] fta: no response yet [17:07] ok :( [17:08] apinheiro, i need you to test a branch for ATK regressions [17:08] apinheiro, https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/unity.hide-cleanup/+merge/54167 [17:08] DBO, Im right now compiling those branches [17:08] Ubuntu bug 54167 in mozilla-thunderbird (Ubuntu) "purging configuration files does not do its job" [Medium,Confirmed] [17:08] apinheiro, super dude [17:08] thanks [17:08] DBO, no problem, thanks to you [17:10] guys, this is a bug in chromium or compiz? https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/735363 [17:10] Ubuntu bug 735363 in unity (Ubuntu) ""Use system title bar and borders" messes up Chromium integration with Unity" [Undecided,New] [17:10] i would imagine it's chromium doing something funny [17:11] the global appmenu is ridiculously misguided with respect to un maximized apps. [17:14] LLStarks, the mailing list is trolled by design more than this IRC channel [17:17] i avoid mailing lists whenever possible because of the gated access makes everything so elitist [17:17] lp is the great equalizer. post a bug, it goes to ayatana-bugs automatically. [17:18] who needs mailing lists when you have a benevolent dictator being the first to comment on your bug? [17:20] DBO, after my test it seems to work fine, [17:20] well at least [17:20] "as fine as before" [17:20] WEWT! [17:21] apinheiro, can you approve in the review too then [17:21] njpatel, ^^ my hear is all a-flutter [17:21] heart* [17:21] as it seems that at-spi and at-spi2 behaves different, Im trying to solve it [17:21] DBO, ok, I will also take a look to the code, but as I said, at [17:21] it is working as without ig [17:21] s/ig/it [17:22] i just needed you to approve based on it not breaking your stuff [17:22] yu are not responsible for the code review itself [17:22] (3 reviews are requested on that branch) [17:22] DBO, as far as I see this changes is more about how to hide/show it [17:22] but current support is based on the launcher icon selected [17:22] and if the launcher has the focus or not [17:22] and this seems to have not changed [17:23] apinheiro, you checked in places too right? [17:23] (where "support"=="a11y support") [17:23] because i made some BIG changes there [17:23] DBO, well, right now there isn't any a11y support on places [17:23] last week I was busy with a regression and other things [17:23] DBO, awesome, I'll finish off the review in 30mins wrt places [17:23] so as I need to start from zero on places [17:24] it doesn't matter if it is before or after your change [17:24] perfect [17:29] DBO, anyway, as Im seeing the code, there are also some changes on the panel [17:29] so it is still missing rodrigo review [17:29] yeah some small ones [17:29] as he was the one that implemented the a11y support for the panel-service [17:29] so it would be better if he test/review that part [17:38] DBO, I have just approved that branch, and included rodrigo on it [17:39] thank you [17:39] DBO, you are welcome [17:39] njpatel, BTW, as we are talking about review [17:39] s [17:39] could you review this: [17:39] https://code.launchpad.net/~apinheiro/nux/Bug734803/+merge/54190 [17:39] Ubuntu bug 54190 in linux-source-2.6.15 (Ubuntu) "Bluetooth doesn't work (HP Pavilion dv8220ea)" [Undecided,Invalid] [17:39] or ask somebody to test it? [17:40] im less worried about the panel [17:40] DBO, yes [17:40] as most of the work was done on the panel-service [17:40] right now unity just expose the button there [17:40] but just in case [18:19] nnnaji, question: how do you read 'Nnaji' ? [18:19] naaa geee ;) [18:20] too bad he left, in Urdu it means 'no, dear' :) === alecu-away is now known as alecu [18:30] wow bug 737420 is driving me crazy... i was just reading an email in evolution full screen and i saw the window slide under the launcher [18:30] Launchpad bug 737420 in unity "Windows are maximized under Unity Launcher and receive clicks when clicking on Lanucher icons" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/737420 [18:30] without me even doing anything [18:47] yea, the launcher poping up and doesn't auto hide is really annoyin [19:04] anyone around? can someone please confirm or deny https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/735120 [19:04] Ubuntu bug 735120 in unity (Ubuntu) "print screen key no longer works in unity" [Undecided,New] [19:06] sorry, I'm back on 10.10 for the moment [19:06] jcastro, ^ [19:20] apinheiro, https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/735645 >:O [19:20] Ubuntu bug 735645 in nux (Ubuntu) "Timestamp field on the event structure is always 0" [Undecided,New] [19:20] lamalex, yes? [19:20] ah [19:20] sorry [19:20] I should confirm it [19:21] right? [19:21] yeah, or triaged if you know how to fix it already [19:21] and assign whoever is supposed to work on it [19:21] well, I don't know to to fix it now [19:22] I suppose that x11 structures includes that timestamps [19:22] but not sure [19:22] and don't know who solve it [19:22] so I just put Confirmed [19:22] well nux is usually good to assign to jay [19:37] lamalex, so I directly assign that bug to him? [19:37] yah === AndreaAzzarone is now known as AndreaAzzarone|f [20:04] kenvandine, ping? [20:05] jporsini, pong [20:06] kenvandine, I am close to finish the pidgin patch, but I have one bug that I cannot find a solution [20:06] kenvandine, during the shutdown of pidgin, it is impossible to modify the unity launcher entry [20:06] kenvandine, it seems that the dbus events are not sent [20:06] kenvandine, I guess it is due to the fact that gtk event bus is shutdown before [20:07] kenvandine, do you have some hints? Is there a way to force emitting of dbus unity events? [20:07] how does it clear the indicator? [20:07] i would think if would work if you put it in the same code path [20:07] it does not.... [20:08] I am exactly in the same path [20:08] ugh... [20:08] so it only gets removed from the indicator because it dies? === AndreaAzzarone|f is now known as AndreaAzzarone [20:08] kenvandine, it is never removed from the indicator, or at least it is longer than my patience [20:09] it wouldn't get removed complete [20:09] but the triangle next to it should [20:09] and if there are pending messages [20:09] those should get removed [20:09] yes there no more triangle on the left [20:09] but the pidgin entry is still here [20:09] yeah, that is a launcher [20:09] Haaaa [20:13] well, it seems that there is just a call to indicate_server_hide in plugin_unload which is where I am calling without sucess the entry_set_visible(false) [20:13] I am going to investigate what this function is exactly doing, thanks [20:14] jporsini, anytime [20:20] pfffff, it is a function of libindicate, it owns the dbus connection and co, and directly emit the dbus event... [20:20] I cannot do the same `:( [20:32] no equivalent of indicate_server_hide in unity lib `:( [20:42] when something crashes i'd typically gdb it.. but with unity what would I do? === alecu is now known as alecu-afk === ogra is now known as Guest27445 [21:14] Daekdroom: Did you update your gstreamer0.10-plugins-good to version 0.10.21-1ubuntu6? It removes ubuntu-desktop and packages for me. [21:14] Omega, that package is marked as "broken", I believe [21:15] but it didn't remove anything. [21:15] It conflicts with a whole bunch of stuff here. [21:16] Obter:6 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty/main gstreamer0.10-plugins-good i386 0.10.28-0ubuntu3 [1.573 kB] [21:16] Ran safe-upgrade now. [21:17] There is a package being held back [21:17] gnome-user-guide [21:18] and now everything is on its place.. [21:18] I upgraded the user guide. [21:19] What do you mean everything is on its place? [21:19] No packages are broken or being held back. [22:10] hello7 === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away [22:42] DanRabbit, hey [22:42] ronoc: hey there [22:42] DanRabbit, have those voip icons made into natty ? [22:42] ronoc: it doesn't look like that branch has been merged yet :/ [22:42] DanRabbit, who is responsible for that ? [22:43] DanRabbit, is there a packager you know of who takes care of the icons ? [22:43] ronoc: not sure to be honest. It was Ken Wiimer who had control over icon stuff before. [22:43] ronoc: I think kenvandine is packaging now, but I'm not sure who should merge work into trunk [22:44] DanRabbit, okay grand i'll talk to ken [22:44] DanRabbit, thanks for doing those playlist icons so quickly [22:44] ronoc: no problem :) [22:44] DanRabbit, i'll hopefully get to try them out tomorrow [22:45] so we can chat tomorrow evening to see where we are at, but hopefully all should be good for the UI freeze [22:45] DanRabbit, ^ [22:45] okay sounds good ;) [22:45] sweet [22:45] good night [22:57] DanRabbit, are the voip icons in that branch you sent on also ? [22:57] DanRabbit, is it Otto who should do that merge request ? [22:57] ronoc: right, they are all together in that branch [22:58] nice [22:58] ronoc: that's possible. I was working with him when I started the branch at the last UDS :p [22:58] DanRabbit, okay cool I'll hassle him first thing [22:58] defo gone this time, laters [22:59] ronoc: cool thanks bye