[02:21] <afiestas> I'm trying to use Trunk in Kubuntu compiled by myself, and I'm getting an error I never had 
[02:21] <afiestas> "Could not find mime types: " inode/directory ...
[02:22] <afiestas> in fact, running kbuildsycoca I can see that almost any mimetype is recognized 
[02:22] <afiestas> (image/jpeg for instance :/)
[02:23] <ScottK> shadeslayer: ^^^ similar reports with Neon maybe?
[02:41] <claydoh> Daskreech: really really late pong
[02:42] <Daskreech> claydoh: When did I ping you?
[02:43] <Daskreech> Oh no I remember now I was checking if you had enough ops to ban sabdfl from the chan
[02:43] <claydoh> 1;24 am est, in the midlle of th sab dl's connection issue
[02:44] <claydoh> heh
[02:44] <Daskreech> Was really really annoying
[08:56] <bambee> morning
[09:08] <Riddell> Quintasan: if the slideshow was full screen it would mean people who get bored can't start up a web browser and do something else
[09:08] <nigelb> heh
[10:07] <Riddell> yay, mobile arm images http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-mobile/daily-preinstalled/current/
[10:07] <Riddell> first time those have built in about two months
[10:29] <apachelogger> Riddell: I think the slideshow should just be replaced with a web browser whenever intarwebs is avaialble ;)
[10:46] <Riddell> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.4.1-beta-1
[10:56] <Riddell> apachelogger: how come you didn't merge https://code.launchpad.net/~goelkunal/kdelibs/debian/+merge/51994 directly?
[11:01] <apachelogger> Riddell: I found that upstream and packaged it :P
[11:02] <Riddell> apachelogger: do you have a paticular interest in not using openGL?
[11:05] <apachelogger> Riddell: yes, recursive symbol resolution ... inshort: plasma-mobile loaded libgl at runtime due to libplasma making it impossible to start with --opengl ... long version: anything that linked against libplasma would load libgl at runtime as libplasma was linking against it, this was causing a symbol clash at runtime as both libgl and libgles were loaded essentially breaking usage of QtOpenGL in all applications that link against libplasma
[11:06] <apachelogger> plasma-mobile can now use opengl on the n900, not that one would want to do that as I got horrible rendering bugs with it *shrug*
[12:27] <ari-tczew> debfx: how do you get upload access for libgadu?
[12:28] <debfx> ari-tczew: it's in the kubuntu package set
[12:28] <ari-tczew> debfx: aha ok
[12:28] <ari-tczew> debfx: thanks ;))
[12:30] <debfx> ari-tczew: you're welcome
[12:31] <debfx> Riddell: kubuntu-mobile doesn't have any dependencies/recommends
[12:39] <ari-tczew> debfx: where can I find kubuntu package set list?
[12:40] <debfx> ari-tczew: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDevelopers#List%20of%20Packages
[12:45] <Riddell> revu needed http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/qt-at-spi
[12:46] <Riddell> debfx: hmm, that's curious
[13:06] <c2tarun_> hi.
[13:07] <c2tarun> are there any other packages like amarok, whose newer version is available? How can I check the list of packages whose newer version is available?
[13:10] <Riddell> c2tarun: rekonq release candidate
[13:11] <Riddell> c2tarun: watch out for announcements on planet, kde-apps.org and elsewhere
[13:11] <c2tarun> Riddell: thanks :) I'll look into it
[13:24] <c2tarun> a patch failed to apply because there is a slight change in a file. should I update the patch so that it applies properly?
[13:36] <Riddell> c2tarun_: yes
[13:36] <Riddell> you can do  quilt push -f  
[13:36] <Riddell> then edit the broken files 
[13:36] <Riddell> then quilt refresh
[13:37] <c2tarun_> Riddell: well I deleted that patch and created a new patch of same name with same changes in same file. is it wrong?
[13:38] <Riddell> that should be ok
[13:41] <c2tarun_> Riddell: here is the diff b/w two debian folders http://paste.kde.org/7799/ please take a look
[13:42] <Riddell> c2tarun_: looks ok
[13:42] <c2tarun_> Riddell: can you upload it?
[13:43] <Riddell> c2tarun_: got the whole source package for me?
[13:44] <Riddell> c2tarun_: did you check for any new files?
[13:45] <c2tarun_> Riddell: looking
[13:45] <Riddell> c2tarun_: is it working for you?
[13:45] <c2tarun_> not tried, wait let me install it.
[13:48] <c2tarun_> Riddell: sorry gotta go :( I'll test it and ping you when I'll come back , thanks
[13:48] <Riddell> hmm, needs less haste does that one
[13:49] <Riddell> debfx: well I agree it's not creating dependencies but I don't know why
[13:54] <highvoltage> FYI: KDE langpacks are breaking Edubuntu builds... again :) http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/natty/edubuntu-dvd/20110321/livecd-20110321-i386.out
[13:57] <Riddell> highvoltage: see discussion with pitti in #u-d this morning
[13:59] <highvoltage> Riddell: ok
[14:01] <shadeslayer> ScottK: iirc yofel fixed that using XDG_DATA_DIRS
[14:02] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Fixed what?
 "Could not find mime types: " inode/directory ...
[14:03] <shadeslayer> that :)
[14:03] <ScottK> Oh.  Great.
[14:04] <ScottK> yuriy: Looking at http://lucidfox.org/p/2011/03/21/installation_report_my_mother you need to be tranlating Muon ....
[14:05] <Riddell> debfx: ah, fixed it, typo in metapackage-map
[14:07] <afiestas> shadeslayer: yes, I did (fix that) 
[14:07] <shadeslayer> afiestas: and the issue still exsists?
[14:08] <lucidfox> "With the USB, was there not a pop-up from the device notifier? Clicking on that should have giving a somewhat intuitive experience." <-- As I said, I changed the notification system to Colibri, the notify-osd clone
[14:08] <afiestas> nope, the problem was mine, because I assumed that Kubuntu set a XDG_DATA_DIR (to /usr/)
[14:08] <shadeslayer> hehe :)
[14:08] <afiestas> but as the standar says if not set, /usr/share is assumed, so Kubuntu doing it well
[14:08] <shadeslayer> yep
[14:09] <shadeslayer> we had the same issue in Neon
[14:09] <shadeslayer> afiestas: have a look at Neon's environment.rc ... should serve as a example to setup a dev env
[14:14] <ScottK> lucidfox: That's not a knotify notification.  It still should have been there (I think).
[14:15] <lucidfox> Hrm de hrm...
[14:15] <agateau> ScottK: I think it was there, but the "open in file manager" entry is not immediatly visible,
[14:15] <agateau> ScottK: you have to click the device to reveal it
[14:15] <ScottK> Ah.
[14:16] <agateau> ScottK: which is a bit stupid according to me, the choices should always be visible
[14:16] <ScottK> lucidfox: I'd say that one's on you then for using a non-standard system that doesn't provide the expected functionality.
[14:16] <ScottK> agateau: Perhaps.  I could imagine it might get unwieldy in some cases.  Not sure.
[14:17] <agateau> ScottK: it is quite uncommon to plug multiple devices at once, isn't it? in the worse case the whole content could be made scrollable, but that would not happen a lot
[14:18] <ScottK> agateau: Makes sense.  If only you knew an upstream KDE developer who could fix that in 4.7....
[14:18] <agateau> ScottK: If only :)
[14:18] <agateau> ScottK: one of those trendy shaps from #plasma maybe :)
[14:19] <ScottK> Yep.
[14:44] <txwikinger> Anybody ever use openvpn with knetwork manager?
[14:47] <Riddell> no but new network management snapshot needing testing in my PPA https://launchpad.net/~jr/+archive/ppa/+packages
[14:48] <skfin> Its a trap.
[14:48] <txwikinger> Riddell: haha
[14:48] <txwikinger> You try to tell me the new snapshot does things the old one on maverick dose not?
[14:49] <Riddell> txwikinger: mobile broadband things
[14:49] <txwikinger> Riddell: I do not have mobile broadband
[14:49] <txwikinger> I use vpn over wifi ;p
[14:50]  * txwikinger wonders if the mobile broadband works on ipv6
[14:52]  * tazz wonders how difficult would it be to port a kde3 app to kde4
[14:52]  * tazz goes to rtfm
[14:53] <\sh> txwikinger: when you setup tayga eventually ;) (NAT64 (ipv6 to ipv4 nat gatway software ;))
[14:53] <Daskreech> !info quanta
[14:53] <Daskreech> tazz: ^^^ there you go Test subject :)
[14:54] <tazz> Daskreech, you mean porting qanta from kde3 to kde4 ?
[14:55] <shadeslayer> someone was actually asking for that
[14:56] <Daskreech> tazz: :)
[14:56] <tazz> Daskreech, actually i was thinking of http://ekaia.org/blog/2011/03/21/small-applications-missing-in-kde-4/
[14:58] <ScottK> tazz and Daskreech: There's a partially complete port of Quanta done already.  Somewhere in KDE svn/git.
[14:59] <tazz> ScottK, thats interesting.
[14:59] <ScottK> KDE4 version of Quanta would be seriously wonderful.
[14:59] <Riddell> tazz: it's fiddly, needs the build system changed, the classes moved over to Qt 4 equivalents then lots of bugs fixed
[14:59] <skfin> Indeed it would
[14:59] <ScottK> The guy that was working on it just lacks time.
[14:59] <Riddell> Quanta was waiting for kdevelop to be ready to port it to kdevplatform, I expect it's ready now
[15:00]  * tazz thinks about looking into it.
[15:01] <txwikinger> \sh: I have already a ipv6throughipv4 tunnel
[15:01] <txwikinger> I do not need such a gateway
[15:01]  * txwikinger 's servers are all fully ipv6 enabled
[15:03] <Riddell> tazz: Quanta is not a small project and porting it to kdevplatform would be a big task
[15:04] <Daskreech> Riddell: Kinda like the we should just Fork KDE3 and port it to Qt4 just to show Aaron crowd?
[15:05] <txwikinger> Daskreech: You have too much time to waste
[15:05] <Daskreech> txwikinger: how so?
[15:05] <txwikinger> Forking KDE3 and porting it to Qt4?
[15:06] <ScottK> Riddell: The aubergine should be gone from your debconf in ~105 minutes.
[15:06] <Daskreech> txwikinger: I think it was SJVN who called for that on his blog
[15:06]  * txwikinger would be happy if the everything would work without bugs in KDE4
[15:07] <Daskreech> txwikinger: True of any software that has been touched in the last year
[15:07] <Riddell> ScottK: no more fluffy ? :(
[15:08] <ScottK> Riddell: You can set it yourself if you want, it's just not going to be default for us anymore.
[15:08] <ScottK> Purple and Blue don't mix very well.
[15:09]  * txwikinger wonders what ScottK statement really means
[15:11]  * txwikinger hates those IO-lockups all the time
[15:12] <ulysses> exit
[15:14] <ulysses> wrong console :P
[15:14] <Riddell>  /win 14
[15:14] <Riddell> tsk
[15:30] <c2tarun_> Riddell: I tried to install rekonq and here is what I got http://paste.kde.org/7805/ can you please take a look
[15:31] <Riddell> c2tarun_: that's fine, run  apt-get -f install
[15:42] <Daskreech> txwikinger: When do you get IO lockups?
[15:51] <debfx> ScottK: imho we should keep the vtrgb change and only revert to the original newt-palette
[15:52] <ScottK> debfx: I'm OK with that I suppose.  We should probably discuss it a bit and see what the consensus is.  As long as DI/Debconf/etc aren't purple, I'm happy.
[15:59] <txwikinger> Daskreech: from swapping
[16:01] <debfx> ScottK: ideally console-setup would install /etc/console-setup/vtrgb.vga as an alternative and k-d-s switches to it if /etc/vtrgb is in auto mode
[16:01] <Daskreech> txwikinger: Swapping windows or the computer writing out to swap partition?
[16:01] <ScottK> debfx: If only this had been coordinated before upload we might have something more sensible.
[16:01] <txwikinger> computer writing out to swap partition
[16:02] <ScottK> debfx: I don't mean to block improvements, I'd just like us to opt in to them (which we now have the chance to do)
[16:02] <yofel> txwikinger: try to change the I/O scheduler to deadline instaed of cfq in /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler (for sda)
[16:03] <yofel> that made swap a bit more usable on my notebook at least
[16:04] <txwikinger> yofel: noop deadline [cfq]
[16:04] <yofel> echo deadline into the file, cfq is the default (and currently selected)
[16:05] <yofel> default on desktop at least
[16:05] <steveire> milian wolff worked on quanta in GSoC I think
[16:06] <txwikinger> yofel: I changed it.. will see if this helps
[16:16] <c2tarun_> Riddell: rekonq installed succesfully but didnt run may be a problem in my chroot. http://paste.kde.org/7806/
[16:17] <Riddell> yes, dbus foo
[16:18] <Riddell> c2tarun_: want an ec2 machine?
[16:18] <c2tarun_> Riddell: sure
[16:25] <c2tarun> Riddell, sorry I got disconnected, is that ec2 machine ready?
[16:26] <agateau> ScottK: lucidfox: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdebase/kde-workspace/repository/revisions/d2fe2b20f0a1d13a3a38ba6f171d04e741022c3f
[16:27] <lucidfox> Wow, that was fast :)
[16:27] <Riddell> c2tarun: ubuntu@ec2-50-16-122-254.compute-1.amazonaws.com
[16:40] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: poke
[16:41] <shadeslayer> ok so what would be the best return type for sending HTML data back? any ideas>
[16:41] <shadeslayer> back as in back over the network
[16:59] <c2tarun>  Riddell my connection seems to be too slow to check :( can you please run rekonq on ec2
[17:00] <Riddell> ok
[17:01] <Riddell> c2tarun: yes lovely, working
[17:02] <c2tarun> grt :)
[17:02] <c2tarun> Riddell, I dont see any anouncement section on kde-apps.or
[17:02] <c2tarun> Riddell, I dont see any anouncement section on kde-apps.org
[17:03] <Riddell> c2tarun: the whole website is for announcing software
[17:03] <Riddell> c2tarun: can you upload the rekonq packaging to that ec2 machine for me to upload to the archive?
[17:04] <c2tarun> Riddell, sure. which files are necessary?
[17:04] <Riddell> c2tarun: the .orig.tar.bz2, the .dsc and the .debian.tar.gz
[17:07] <shadeslayer> oh c2tarun packaged rekonq? goody :D
[17:07] <debfx> ScottK: we still have an aubergine grub screen :(
[17:07] <shadeslayer> yeah ^^ :P
[17:08] <shadeslayer> debfx: iirc apachelogger made it possible to have a blue screen
[17:08] <Riddell> didn't harald have a change to that?
[17:08] <shadeslayer> he did, but didn't commit anything
[17:08] <ScottK> debfx: Rats.  Can you work with Kirkland on figuring it out?
[17:09] <debfx> I had a quick look at it and think it needs some refactoring in grub
[17:10] <Riddell> I do wonder if the colour of grub is really our greatest problem :)
[17:10] <c2tarun> Riddell, done
[17:10] <debfx> indeed it is :P
[17:17]  * apachelogger has a kickass migraine
[17:19] <ScottK> ah.  I missed you said grub.
[17:19] <ScottK> That's different than Kirkland's thing.
[17:20] <apachelogger> debfx: aha!
[17:20] <apachelogger> debfx: indeed there is a brief moment of auberginess
[17:20] <apachelogger> not particularly a showstopper for blueness though
[17:21] <apachelogger> debfx: do you have a color ready?
[17:21]  * apachelogger thinks his choice of blue is a bit too dark
[17:22] <debfx> apachelogger: no I was relying on you for the color scheme :)
[17:22] <apachelogger> lolz
[17:23] <apachelogger> well, I can digg up mine eventually
[17:23] <debfx> do you have a way to hook that into the grub config?
[17:24] <apachelogger> hook?
[17:25] <apachelogger> just drop in /etc/grub.d/ and make sure update-grub is triggered
[17:27] <debfx> apachelogger: wouldn't that overwrite all the magic in /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme?
[17:27] <apachelogger> debfx: http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/06_kubuntu_theme
[17:27] <debfx> apachelogger: it seems to call set_default_theme only if no background image is configured
[17:28] <apachelogger> no background image on kyoubuntoo
[17:28] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: whats the cmake var to include QNetworkInterface class?
[17:29] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[17:29] <apachelogger> I dont even know what that is
[17:29] <shadeslayer> :S
[17:29] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: qt_network includes I suppose
[17:30] <apachelogger> or you just add qt_includes
[17:30] <apachelogger> which is probably the better option anyway
[17:30] <shadeslayer> it's there
[17:30] <shadeslayer> i get : /home/shadeslayer/tmp/Presentateur/src/MainWindow.cpp:-1: error: undefined reference to `QHostAddress::QHostAddress(QHostAddress::SpecialAddress)'
[17:32] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: there's also /home/shadeslayer/tmp/Presentateur/src/MainWindow.cpp:-1: error: undefined reference to `QNetworkInterface::allAddresses()'
[17:32] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you need to link against it
[17:32] <apachelogger> it = qtnetwork
[17:32] <shadeslayer> yeah i'm adding target_link_libs 
[17:32] <apachelogger> it.next() ^^
[17:32] <shadeslayer> heh :P
[17:47] <debfx> aha, yofel filed bug #696915
[17:53] <c2tarun> Riddell, well is my connection gone or that ec2 machine is switched off?
[17:54] <Riddell> c2tarun: I turned if off, were you using it?
[17:54] <c2tarun> Riddell, there was a package Qtiplot its new version is available, I thought to pack it.
[17:55] <Riddell> c2tarun: hmm, sorry
[17:55] <Riddell> want me to start another one?
[17:56] <c2tarun> Riddell, noproblem :) if possible please start it, because its little big package on my connection it will take whole night.
[17:56] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: solved ... needed target_link_libs
[17:57] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: isn that what we said? :P
[17:57] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: now there's a new issue my label gets cut off in the Layout >.>
[17:57] <apachelogger> because you did not properly lay it out
[17:57] <apachelogger> clearly
[17:58] <Riddell> c2tarun: ubuntu@ec2-50-17-20-131.compute-1.amazonaws.com
[17:58] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/7825
[18:01] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: couldnt you just commit and push stuff? :S
[18:01] <shadeslayer> different project :P
[18:02] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you really should be using foreach
[18:02] <ScottK> Anyone updating bluedevil?
[18:02]  * shadeslayer is having fun with QDbus
[18:02] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: easy solution is to activate wordwrap I suppose
[18:03]  * Riddell is busy building RPMs on the build service
[18:03] <shadeslayer> Riddell: O_O
[18:03] <shadeslayer> oh
[18:03] <shadeslayer> usb-creator right?
[18:03] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: what's the correct solution?
[18:03] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yes
[18:06] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: depends on what you want to do
[18:06]  * apachelogger has too much a headache to read that code though
[18:06] <apachelogger> Nightrose: ping
[18:08] <Nightrose> apachelogger: pong
[18:08] <c2tarun> its weird, I copied debian folder to new upstream version, on running quilt top I am getting message no patches upstream. How can it be possible?
[18:10] <c2tarun> s/upstream/in series/
[18:10] <kubotu> c2tarun meant: "its weird, I copied debian folder to new in series version, on running quilt top I am getting message no patches upstream. How can it be possible?"
[18:10] <c2tarun> :/
[18:10] <c2tarun> its weird, I copied debian folder to new upstream version, on running quilt top I am getting message no patches in series. How can it be possible?
[18:10] <apachelogger> Nightrose: who of KDE is going to LT and would like to do a talk?
[18:11] <apachelogger> Nightrose: my how to change your wallpaper talk got accepted, but I'll probably be @ UDS
[18:11] <Nightrose> -.-
[18:11] <Nightrose> idunno tbh
[18:11] <Riddell> ooh, apachelogger is coming to UDS?
[18:12] <Riddell> c2tarun: export QUILT_PATCHES=debian/patches  maybe?
[18:12] <apachelogger> Nightrose: oh, actually, maybe I can do it
[18:13] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: LT?
[18:13] <apachelogger> Riddell: if I get sponsorship for mon-wed
[18:13] <apachelogger> Nightrose: talk is scheduled sat afternoon and I probably have an exam on friday afternoon
[18:14] <apachelogger> if I take a late flight friday or a early one on saturday that might just work out
[18:14] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: linuxtag
[18:14] <shadeslayer> oic
[18:15] <apachelogger> oh
[18:15] <apachelogger> actuall it is at noon ^^
[18:16]  * apachelogger has reading problems from headache it seems
[18:16]  * apachelogger better reads this tomorrow again
[18:17] <apachelogger> Nightrose: in any case if you could watch out for someone to take the talk that would be swell
[18:17] <Nightrose> ok
[18:17] <apachelogger> thx
[18:26] <shadeslayer> ScottK: incoming ARM question for ya
[18:26] <shadeslayer> someone from Nokia
[18:29] <c2tarun> what is the meaning of this line? Hunk #1 succeeded at 18624 with fuzz 1 (offset 889 lines).
[18:31] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Shoot.
[18:31]  * shadeslayer picks up a gun and fires at apachelogger
[18:32] <apachelogger> ouch
[18:32] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: my aim is lousy
[18:32] <shadeslayer> did it hit your ARM? :P
[18:33] <shadeslayer> ScottK: HorusHorrendus was supposed to ask the question, but i have no idea what happened .. /me checks #amarok
[18:33] <yofel> c2tarun: part 1 of the patch was successfully applied. 18624 should be the line number it was applied to, 889 is the distance from the original line it was supposed to be applied to I think. No idea was fuzz is
[18:33] <ScottK> OK.
[18:33] <sheytan> Riddell ping
[18:34] <ScottK> shadeslayer: The answer to most Qt on arm questions is "Remember Qreal = Double".
[18:34] <shadeslayer> hehe 
[18:34] <ScottK> err
[18:34] <ScottK> =/!=
[18:34] <HorusHorrendus> ScottK: well not Double/Real in our Lib ;)
[18:35] <HorusHorrendus> what happened ... not much ... not sure if it is ARM or Meego what is the problem
[18:35] <yofel> c2tarun: ah, fuzz: the top and bottom line in the patch context (the part before and after the lines that were patched) were ignored.
[18:35] <yofel> c2tarun: see man patch
[18:37] <rbelem> http://vidadeprogramador.com.br/2011/03/17/5-milhoes/
[18:37] <rbelem> ops
[18:37] <rbelem> wrong channel :-D
[18:39] <ScottK> HorusHorrendus: What was the issue?
[18:40] <HorusHorrendus> http://paste.kde.org/7832/
[18:40] <HorusHorrendus> a mail we got from a Dev at Nokia
[18:40] <HorusHorrendus> who wants to build my Library (atm used only by amarok 2.4.1) on Meego
[18:40] <HorusHorrendus> he also made the error to don't see what I meant with BASE_PATH_OF_INSTALLATION
[18:41] <c2tarun> yofel, ok I read the man page, what should I do in case of fuzz?
[18:41] <HorusHorrendus> but the errors are really really strange ;)
[18:41] <HorusHorrendus> ScottK: so if you have time, an experienced Builder for ARM would be cool to check our small Library out: https://github.com/ase23/libmygpo-qt
[18:41] <HorusHorrendus> just clone and try to build under ARM
[18:42] <yofel> c2tarun: nothing, as long as the patch applies you're good usually, It's just a warning that the file has changed very near your patch so it might be needed to update it sometime.
[18:45] <ScottK> HorusHorrendus: That doesn't look like anything arm specific to me.
[18:45] <ScottK> It'll probably be a couple of days before I have any time.  Ping me on Wed. if you still have it unresolved.
[18:45] <HorusHorrendus> ScottK: well I also think it is Meego specific
[18:46] <ScottK> I'm pretty sure it is.
[18:46] <HorusHorrendus> shadeslayer was so eager to point me to you ;)
[18:46] <shadeslayer> HorusHorrendus: well you said it was a ARM issue :P
[18:46] <ScottK> apachelogger knows a bit about Meego stuff and he's got access to the arm boxes.
[18:46] <ScottK> shadeslayer: It is on arm, but it's not arm's fault I don't think.
[18:46] <shadeslayer> s/was/might be
[18:47] <shadeslayer> okay
[18:47] <debfx> yofel, c2tarun: iirc quilt doesn't allow patches with fuzz, you need to manually refresh the patch
[18:47]  * shadeslayer goes head banging against calligra and dbus
[18:47] <c2tarun> debfx, I refreshed it.
[18:47] <HorusHorrendus> well you don't need a ARM box ... you only need this CrossCompiler Scratchbox with QEMU and so on ...
[18:47] <apachelogger> what is with me?
[18:47] <apachelogger> are you draging me into work again?
[18:47]  * apachelogger runs
[18:47] <HorusHorrendus> apachelogger: always ;)
[18:47] <yofel> debfx: ah, never had that case here before.
[18:48] <debfx> c2tarun: then it wouldn't have fuzz and an offset
[18:48] <HorusHorrendus> apachelogger: any idea what http://paste.kde.org/7832/ might be (MeeGo related, that Guy from Nokia tried to build my lib on MeeGo/ARM and failed)
[18:48] <c2tarun> debfx, yup it resolved aftr that :)
[18:49] <debfx> ah ok :)
[18:49] <HorusHorrendus> a Nokia Dev who can't figure out why a Build doesn't work under MeeGo ... probably a good Idea they switched to Windows Phone 7 *ducks & runs*
[18:49] <apachelogger>   mmap: No such device or address
[18:49] <apachelogger> HorusHorrendus: sounds like the emulator is crapz
[18:50] <apachelogger> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mmap
[18:50] <HorusHorrendus> apachelogger: we tried to tell him that ;) he says: "Scratchbox should be ok, at least everything else compiles fine and lib compiles in i486 target."
[18:51] <apachelogger> HorusHorrendus: just that he is in the armv7 target
[18:51] <apachelogger> and that requires emulation unless he actually runs scratchbox on an armv7
[18:51] <apachelogger> (which would be utterly pointless)
[18:51] <shadeslayer> so calligra uses a pid in it's dbus interface
[18:51] <shadeslayer> NOT GOOD
[18:51] <HorusHorrendus> apachelogger: you know more about ARM then Nokia Devs ... ;)
[18:51] <apachelogger> apparently
[18:51] <HorusHorrendus> (at least seem to know)
[18:52] <apachelogger> markey: do you also have people who understand the difference between x86 and arm? :P
[18:52]  * apachelogger shakes head and drops some more pain killers
[18:52] <shadeslayer> lol
[18:54] <apachelogger> HorusHorrendus: what lib are we talking about?
[18:54] <HorusHorrendus> libmygpo-qt
[18:54]  * apachelogger could have guesed ^^
[18:54] <HorusHorrendus> a Kubuntu Dev just wrote me about it ;)
[18:54] <apachelogger> well
[18:55] <apachelogger> I can do a quick native build if you want
[18:55] <HorusHorrendus> if you want you can try ;)
[18:55] <apachelogger> to proof to the nice nokia dude that it is not the lib but his setup :P
[18:55] <HorusHorrendus> but try current git
[18:55] <apachelogger> wouldn't have done it any other way :P
[18:55] <HorusHorrendus> apachelogger: cool proof, I like ;)
[18:56] <apachelogger> class SuProcess : public QProcess
[18:56] <apachelogger> <3 android
[18:56] <apachelogger> a system made so you can geek around with su
[18:57] <HorusHorrendus> how can I in a file like http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/lgpl-2.1.txt
[18:57] <HorusHorrendus> state this or any later lgpl licence
[18:58] <apachelogger> HorusHorrendus: you cannot and you you should not
[18:59] <apachelogger> HorusHorrendus: why would you?
[18:59] <c2tarun> I got this error while building a package http://paste.kde.org/7836/ manual.pro is missing, I guess manual.pro should be generated when we run qmake -project in manual folder. What is wrong here?
[19:00] <HorusHorrendus> apachelogger: cause my files say LGPL 2.1+
[19:01] <apachelogger> HorusHorrendus: huh? where?
[19:01] <apachelogger> you mean the source?
[19:01] <apachelogger> just change the license header in the source (if you have permission of all potential copyright holders that is)
[19:02] <HorusHorrendus> apachelogger: no problem is
[19:02] <HorusHorrendus> source say 2.1+
[19:02] <HorusHorrendus> LICENSE File say 3
[19:02] <HorusHorrendus> so I wanna change LICENSE File to also say 2.1+
[19:02] <HorusHorrendus> or is it good if it say 2.1 and the Source say 2.1+
[19:03] <apachelogger> HorusHorrendus: where is that license file?
[19:03] <apachelogger> a license only can have one version at a time, if your code is 2.1+ then you include the 2.1 version of lgpl and are done
[19:03] <HorusHorrendus> ok good
[19:03] <HorusHorrendus> thx apachelogger that's what I wanted to know
[19:03] <apachelogger> yw
[19:05] <HorusHorrendus> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/lgpl-2.1.txt
[19:06] <HorusHorrendus> where do I have to make the "Cut off"
[19:06] <HorusHorrendus> include "END OF LICENSING TERMS"
[19:06] <HorusHorrendus> or delete that line ...
[19:07] <bambee> where dh-make finds debian/copyright templates ? I've also to change debian/copyright from lgpl3 to lgpl2.1+  (so the summary too)
[19:08] <apachelogger> HorusHorrendus: use the file as-is
[19:09] <HorusHorrendus> apachelogger: hmm including the stuff after END OF LICENSING TERMS and the "how to apply this ..." ... :)
[19:10] <HorusHorrendus> ok probably should be done that way ;)
[19:12] <apachelogger> HorusHorrendus: it is not like it does any harm ;)
[19:22] <apachelogger> oh
[19:22] <apachelogger> HorusHorrendus: it fails to build :P
[19:22] <apachelogger> HorusHorrendus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/583470/
[19:25] <HorusHorrendus> ahh that could be
[19:25] <HorusHorrendus> cause we set the errors pretty high
[19:25] <HorusHorrendus> so that it stops on warnings
[19:25] <HorusHorrendus> that was a problem on ARM ...
[19:26] <HorusHorrendus> and that's all Qt Stuff ... they should fix it ;)
[19:27] <HorusHorrendus> but have to do something in CMake about ARM
[19:34] <c2tarun> Riddell, sorry I tried to work on two packages, ktorrent and qtiplot both failed to build from source :( you can switch off that ec2 machine. thanks
[20:15] <HorusHorrendus> apachelogger: could you maybe pull & try again ... there was a -Werror definition in there that made it stop on warnings and somehow these Warnings only appear on ARM
[20:33] <apachelogger> HorusHorrendus: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/libmygpo-qt.arm.log
[20:34] <apachelogger> native arm build definitely works
[20:34] <apachelogger> blame scratchbox
[20:34] <ScottK> or Meego or Nokia.
[20:34] <HorusHorrendus> hehe
[20:36] <apachelogger> ScottK: I actually think he is building on the maemo toolchain
[20:37] <ScottK> So my blame pointing is appropriate.
[20:37] <apachelogger> I do not think a meego scratcbhox target would be named after the current maemo series
[20:37] <bambee> huh... two people wrote the same package ?
[20:38] <apachelogger> bad communication
[20:38] <bambee> seriously ? just read your logs I said that 3 days ago... 
[20:40] <bambee> well, I contacted devs on upstream COPYING was changed from lgpl3 to lgpl2.1 and a unit test fails, it's also reported
[20:40] <HorusHorrendus> hi bambee ;)
[20:40] <bambee> hi
[20:40] <HorusHorrendus> yeah that stupid Unit Test, already replied to you
[20:41] <HorusHorrendus> apachelogger was testing something different for us ... arm special ;) so that he can blame nokia devs ;)
[20:42] <bambee> HorusHorrendus: your rules are done ?
[20:44] <HorusHorrendus> bambee: what rules do you mean?
[20:44] <bambee> debian/rules 
[20:45] <HorusHorrendus> you mean the COPYING File? Yeah corrected it to LGPL 2.1 in GIT
[20:45] <apachelogger> why would HorusHorrendus write the rules? ]:D
[20:45] <HorusHorrendus> apachelogger: no idea ... this whole packaging thing confuses me ... first I look for Packagers over the mailinglist (amarok & gpodder) since 2 Months already and now all of a sudden they all come to me ;)
[20:46] <bambee> apachelogger: we're both working on the same package or not ?
[20:46] <ScottK> apachelogger: More trustworthy than relying on your alcohol induced fits of procutivity?
[20:46]  * bambee is confused
[20:46] <apachelogger> HorusHorrendus: you need to poke Nightrose to advertise stuff to them
[20:46] <apachelogger> there is a secret packager society somewhere
[20:46]  * apachelogger is not allowed in anymore
[20:46] <apachelogger> apparently there was a vodka incident
[20:47] <apachelogger> ScottK: perhaps
[20:47] <apachelogger> bambee: you and me?
[20:47] <apachelogger> I am getting drunk
[20:47] <apachelogger> senior devs do not do development, look at nixternal :P
[20:49] <ScottK> apachelogger: nixternal isn't quite old enough for senior.  He just doesn't do much ...
[20:51] <HorusHorrendus> bambee: apachelogger did only some tests for me, not packaging
[20:51] <bambee> ok
[20:51] <HorusHorrendus> but you worked on the same lib ;)
[20:51] <bambee> exactly
[20:51] <HorusHorrendus> he made sure that it builds for ARM ;)
[20:52] <bambee> I just don't want to work on something for nothing :)
[20:52] <HorusHorrendus> if anyone wants to run Kubuntu on ARM :)
[20:52] <bambee> but no problems
[20:52] <HorusHorrendus> bambee: It's never for nothing, I appreciate your Work ;)
[20:52] <bambee> okay okay
[20:52] <bambee> :)
[20:53] <HorusHorrendus> Just a little bit overwhelmed today ;)
[20:54]  * apachelogger once was overwhelmed
[20:54] <apachelogger> couldn't sit for a week
[20:57] <Riddell> reminder to world: revu needed http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/qt-at-spi; plasma-widget-networkmanagement test needed https://launchpad.net/~jr/+archive/ppa/+packages
[20:57] <HorusHorrendus> some people call that too much caffeine ;)
[20:58] <apachelogger> that is not what I meant
[20:58] <HorusHorrendus> apachelogger: what did you build it under? Kubuntu/ARM, Debian/ARM, ...??
[20:58] <apachelogger> anywho
[20:59]  * apachelogger has an almost working vpnc gui for androidz
[20:59]  * bambee drank too much coffee
[20:59] <apachelogger> HorusHorrendus: kyoubuntoo 11.04
[21:00] <HorusHorrendus> that is Kubuntu for ARM? ;)
[21:00] <apachelogger> http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/11/21/arm-for-kubuntu-and-kde/
[21:00] <apachelogger> HorusHorrendus: otherwise it would be difficult to do a native build :P
[21:00] <HorusHorrendus> sure sure ;)
[21:04] <apachelogger> anyone knows why my qtcreator aint got no qtquick designer thing?
[21:08] <Riddell> apachelogger: upstream haven't released the qt quick bits as far as I know
[21:08] <Riddell> not stable enough
[21:09] <apachelogger> meh
[21:10] <ScottK> apachelogger: Speaking of which, did you get the ice creaming working on the .200 box?
[21:11] <apachelogger> ScottK: no, I forgot :P
[21:11] <ScottK> apachelogger: OK.  Now you are reminded.
[21:14] <apachelogger> I will try again tomorrow :D
[22:25] <Riddell> fregl: W: qt-at-spi: old-fsf-address-in-copyright-file   warning on the qt-at-spi package