=== david is now known as Guest68029 === felipeadmin is now known as w4rlock === richard is now known as Guest85625 === Guest85625 is now known as shax [01:26] exit [01:28] !info wmaker [01:28] wmaker (source: wmaker): NeXTSTEP-like window manager for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.92.0-8.2 (maverick), package size 2359 kB, installed size 6340 kB === ll is now known as TheOne [01:55] hey, question guys [01:56] headphones work for amarok, but not youtube [01:56] what do? :P [01:57] that's weird [02:28] Daskreech, can you help with my problem? x.x [02:28] hi [02:28] What is the problem? [02:40] kubuntu-es [02:49] allo [02:50] i hear that KDE is loosing traction? [02:50] it seems fine to me but idk [02:50] tertl3: you can ignore that :) [02:50] ok [02:51] tertl3: though in reality it does not make a difference [02:51] well, if you look at it like that then nothing really makes a difference [02:51] I need help with make on wireless driver [02:52] Can anybody help me with a wireless network card driver [02:53] beast: we don't really know because you haven't given us any information === rafa is now known as Guest80065 [02:53] Was waiting see somebody had time before I put out all the dirty details [02:54] lol, (no harm intended) [02:54] I am trying to do a make on a ralink device 3062 [02:54] but I keep getting a gcc error [02:55] installed gcc but still says it can't find it [02:55] beast: well if someone doesn't know what issue your facing they don't know if it's something they have time / knowledge for. [02:55] ok have i given you enough details? can you help me? [02:56] beast: why are you compiling the ralink driver ? [02:57] tertl3: With FOSS that may be true. [02:57] tertl3: if you like using something then use it [02:57] trying to I edited a file as directed by the readme and then run make but that is when I get the error that says it can't find gcc [02:57] is it not in the kernel because it's too new or because it's non-free software ? [02:57] so I installed gcc but I still get the error [02:57] ok any suggestions on how to get an older version? [02:58] no it was a question [02:58] oh [02:58] I'm not sure how to answer your question [02:58] ok, what license is the ralink driver under ? [02:59] I just did a sudo apt-get install gcc [03:00] ok well, i may or may not be able to help you. I am trying to ascertain if i can help you, however in order to do that, i need you to answer the questions i have asked. [03:01] alternately there may be someone else in the channel that can help you. [03:01] however you may have to be patient [03:02] guess he didn't want my help [03:03] sorry computer froze and had to reboot [03:03] sorry computer froze and had to reboot [03:03] let me look for the license info [03:04] ok. also which version of kubuntu are you running ? [03:05] I running 10.10 Kubuntu. Can't find any license info but I got it from the ralink website so maybe there is something there [03:06] GNU license [03:06] Free software [03:08] cool [03:08] ok so is it in a newer kernel ? [03:08] 2.6.38 ? [03:09] because if it has, then it's probably easier to just use a newer kernel [03:09] how do I find out? [03:11] erm well i had a look in the 2.6.38 changelog and it's possible it got merged [03:11] sorry I'm a bit helpless still [03:11] no worries [03:11] it's not trivial [03:11] generally we just encourage people to wait until it's supported out the box [03:12] so that would be natty, but if you're in a hurry there are 'testing' kernels [03:12] which can be installed [03:12] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.38-natty/ [03:12] wireless is my only choice for my situation so it's either get it working or look for a different way to connect to the network [03:12] it's for natty, but it will work in maverick [03:13] but YMMV [03:13] grab the _all.deb and the 2 others which match your achitecture [03:13] and and install them by sudo dpkg -i *.deb [03:13] cool thanks will do [03:14] please be aware though, these are not production kernels [03:14] at least not for ubuntu [03:14] they don't contain any patches which ubuntu make against the kernel so if you have other random hardware which is not supported in the mainline [03:14] ok I don't mind taking chances lol [03:14] it probably will not work. [03:14] ok [03:15] good luck [03:15] I don't think I do thanks [03:16] beast: You should apt-get install build-essential [03:17] ok thanks [03:17] beast: what is the issue you are having? [03:17] Daskreech: ralink wifi driver is not in his kernel [03:17] How? [03:17] I can't see my wireless network to connect [03:18] beast: laptop? [03:18] so I need driver to make it work but it is not in the kernel as Mase said [03:18] no desktop [03:18] former Vista desktop [03:18] Daskreech: his chipset only just got merged in 2.6.38 from what i can see [03:18] beast: do you see the wifi card in lspci ? [03:18] or lshw -C network ? [03:18] Mase_wk: Ah really? Hmm ok [03:19] Might want to try a new kernel then as stated [03:19] do you want to try that first? [03:19] Daskreech: well i'm not 100% sure [03:19] <_< [03:19] the changelogs say 2800 [03:19] sure [03:19] LOL [03:19] which I *think* is his chipset from the ralink page [03:19] but it only gives model no's [03:19] so it makes it a bit difficult [03:20] i'm reasonably sure, but not 100% certain [03:20] so by all means do some more tests [03:20] its a fresh install so at worst I scrap it and start over [03:21] beast: 64 bit or 32 bit ? [03:22] amd64 [03:22] just installed gcc and need to restart brb [03:22] http://ubuntu.wallawalla.edu/ubuntu//pool/main/l/linux/kernel-image-2.6.38-7-generic-di_2.6.38-7.36_amd64.udeb [03:22] wget that to the computer [03:22] ok === petete_ is now known as petete [03:23] downloading now [03:25] when it's done do a sudo dpkg -i /path/to/whereyou/downloaded/to [03:25] ok [03:25] http://torrentdeluxe.com/torrents/590118-ubuntu-11.04-keygen.rar.html [03:25] Brilliant [03:26] haha [03:27] beast: let me know if that gives an error [03:28] ok [03:29] subprocess dpkg-split returned error exit status 2 [03:31] nevermind I screwed up it worked this time [03:32] I forgot to tell which file to process lol [03:32] make works now! thanks guys [03:32] beast: ha of course it does [03:32] beast: ok try and reboot and choose the 2.6.38 kernel and see if it boots [03:33] ok [03:33] if it doesn't then just reboot and choose the next oldest one [03:33] ok [03:49] Broked? === IdleOne is now known as MaverickOne === MaverickOne is now known as IdleOne [05:04] Is there a way to get the kernel config that is used to build the "-generic" kernels for (k)ubuntu? [05:19] dfrey: ask for them? [05:30] look at /boot/config-* [06:12] firefox installer ran successfully but only the installer shows up in the menu. how do i access the actual broswer? [06:14] birdinatux: Shoudl be in the menu [06:14] birdinatux: try alt+f2 -> firefox [06:15] still only installer shows. [06:15] i am running off live cd if that matters [06:18] I was going to install but the cd is scratched and freezes half way. Was going to download the iso to burn to a new one, but cant get a browser. Firefox only shows installer, and rekong crashes at startup every time i run it [06:20] birdinatux: It comes with a browser [06:20] Konqueror works [06:21] rekonq web browser wont run. crashes every time i try to start it [06:21] birdinatux: also as a question what were you going to use to burn? [06:21] birdinatux: Konqueror? [06:21] k3b [06:21] from the LiveCD? [06:22] yeah [06:22] ha [06:22] where are you downloading it to ? [06:23] was going to d/l it to a flash drive, the iso [06:23] should I just boot into windows and do it there? [06:25] if all you are doing is burning a CD and you have the software under windows I don't see why not [06:25] ok, shall return. [06:25] birdinatux: probally best, if the installer is crupt due to the scratch there is no telling what else it ^^ [06:26] (or at least another os [06:29] :) [06:30] is it really worth getting the 64bit edition over the 32 bit edition? [06:31] Well i wouldn't re-install my os for that but when installing newer version certainly i would get the 64b edition [06:32] 64 it is then. Just ppl saying not many 64 bit apps so no point... [06:32] i guess there is not much difference in speed either way. And if you do not have more than 3Gb memory then thats not problem either .. [06:32] birdinatux: They are all 64 bit apps [06:33] Being free and open does have perks [06:33] :) [06:33] nice [06:33] I have 8gb ram [06:33] so 32b program cannot use that all, so 64b might make sense .. [06:38] 45 mins til burn time w00t [06:42] While i'm downloading.... I have a ati radeon 5770 hd graphics card. Should i use the drivers provided by kubuntu, or download the proprietary ones? [06:48] birdinatux: install the preoprietary one using "aditional drivers" ... or "hardware drivers" (or what ever its called nowa days :p... or run jockey-kde form the terminal) [06:49] james147 cool. thanks [07:27] HELLO [07:29] 還 [07:31] Hello [07:31] how are you? [07:32] 神馬 [07:36] hey Daskreech [07:37] hi eagles0513875 [07:38] how goes it :) [07:38] Alright :) [07:40] was gonna ask if you know a kde front end to drop box [07:40] lol but i remembered the name [07:40] kfilebox [07:40] !kfilebox [07:40] !info kfilebox [07:40] Package kfilebox does not exist in maverick [07:40] O_o [07:40] interesting [07:40] eagles0513875: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [07:41] lol talk about sensitive [07:42] Install went smooth :) [07:44] birdinatux: much better [07:44] ha [07:46] kde was laggy on my old comp, but this one I just built it's running great! [07:47] eagles0513875: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kdropbox/files/kfilebox-0.4.7/Kubuntu 10.10/ [07:47] ^_^ [07:48] lol Daskreech way ahead of you bro lol im just finding it interesting that its not in the repos [07:48] Daskreech: im really digging using html5 based youtube on my mac [07:48] can you dig it? can you dig it? [07:48] it buffers a hell of alot faster [07:49] even downloading off u tube it downloads a hell of alot faster too [07:49] lol [08:21] hi, does anyone know where the notes plasmoid usually with yellow background keep its' files? I have installed everything from scratch and forgot to copy the notes from the plasmoid. Can anyone help? [08:22] * james147 thinks its in ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc ... [08:22] I can find anything in ".kde/share/apps/plasma/plasmoids/" [08:23] ok let me have a look === Ash|Qin is now known as Ash-Fox === ante_ is now known as ante === _human_blip_ is now known as human_blip === nitish is now known as coolns [11:23] hi [11:23] anyone there [11:24] that wasn't long. === coaboa_ is now known as coaboa === yofel_ is now known as yofel === c2tarun_ is now known as c2tarun === mren|off is now known as mren [13:20] Howdy [13:27] Hello, someone know how install the printer Kyocera FS-1016? I have already tryed use the foo2kyo, but don't compile. [14:47] my KDE screensaver wont start :( [15:06] so I have installed the propriety drivers, how can I get dual screen working? [15:07] ati card [15:07] on displays I can see two screens [15:07] but for some reason it wont work [15:07] k00pa: try this:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174 [15:07] kk [15:07] Does anyone know why the desktop pager widget gets colored like a progress bar when I have certain Desktops selected (what does it signify)? [15:07] k00pa: is it an NVIDIA driver? [15:08] rosco_y: ati ^^ not nvidia [15:08] sorry, I guess not huh [15:08] rosco_y: I have ati card [15:08] It was my experience that the open source driver was a lot better for dual head setups than the proprietary driver [15:08] rosco_y: not sure what you mean... a screen shot might help [15:09] hmm [15:09] so what driver should i install? [15:09] big-desktop? [15:09] rosco_y: depends which drivers ^^ [15:09] I used to have ati, and it was very easy to configure the open source drivers, the ati proprietary drivers where the pits [15:09] k00pa: i would think so, but I am not fimilar with ati cards :) [15:10] hmm hmm [15:11] I would google for some info on installing/using the open source drivers, although I think they are installed by default in 10.10 [15:11] yeah it installed something [15:11] but aint working with dual screen [15:11] I think if you open the "Additional Drivers" dialog, and tell your system "Not to use" the proprietary driver, it defaults to the opensource driver, but you should double-check [15:12] k00pa: are you using the propriety driver? [15:12] restarting x ... -> [15:12] yeah [15:12] why the f ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't work anymore? [15:12] it's possible to get it working, but it's very flaky [15:12] k00pa: alt+print screen +k [15:13] what are you using your system for (gaming/programming/other)? [15:13] the proprietary driver gives you better hardware access, but it's much harder to configure [15:14] coding [15:14] if your main goal is to have two monitors, then I recommend the open source driver [15:14] yeaaah [15:14] well how I remove the old and get the new then [15:14] use the open source driver, it's very easy to use [15:14] currently at black screen.. [15:14] ouch [15:14] okey, where is ctrl+alt+f1 now? [15:14] k00pa: that one hasent changed [15:14] ok I think you need to go into your xorg.conf file and fix it there [15:14] hm [15:14] well cant get tty1 open [15:15] I believe it's in the /etc/X11 directory [15:15] k00pa: you capslock light toggle on your keyboard? [15:15] restarted already [15:16] rolling the backup of xorg [15:16] there might be a way to build a default xorg.conf file from the command line....be worth googling [15:17] Xorg --configure i think... while X isnt running that is [15:17] well I had backups [15:17] so x is running now [15:18] hmmm ati catalyst control center [15:19] sorry k00pa, I hated ati. I bought a NVIDIA on sale at Newegg. Most productive purchase I've made in a long time. [15:21] rosco_y: yeaah but I think I just got this stuff working just fine using the ati ccc [15:21] I think I recall that I had luck opening the "Additoinall Drivers" dialog, and "Removing" the proprietary driver [15:21] I dont have proplems with the proprietary drivers [15:22] last time I used proprietary were faster than free [15:22] k00pa: here's what would happen to me: I'd fight with it until it worked, and then when I rebooted I had to do the same thing all over again. [15:22] O_o [15:22] It didn't seem to remember my settings [15:22] Well, I gotta get too it....good luck!!! [15:23] Ati catalyst control for the win! [15:23] install propriety drivers -> ccc configuring -> done [15:23] now I have to get rid of this horrible theme [15:35] !dontzap | k00pa that should help [15:35] k00pa that should help: To re-enable the Ctrl-Alt-Backspace combination that restarts your X server see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/DontZap [15:35] thanks [15:53] k00pa: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2011/01/19/kde-4-x-ctrl-alt-backspace-kill-the-x-server/ [15:53] that simple [15:54] thanks [15:54] :) [15:54] * james147 dosnt understand why people cant get use to the new combo ^^ [15:54] I am used to the old [15:54] much better [15:55] same as saying why you cant understand that some people use dovark keyboard or something :P [15:55] * Peace- wonders which is the new combo [15:55] alt+prtn screen+k [15:55] :S [15:55] * DarthFrog wonders why the key combo was changed in the first place. [15:55] ah [15:55] ok [15:55] no idea [15:56] guess ctrl alt backspace [15:56] are too used [15:56] i guess [15:56] *bah * [15:57] By that argument, CTL-ALT-Delete should be changed, too. [15:57] who has 4.6.1 can try to run an gtk application like root? [15:57] should appear ugly [15:57] Meta-CTL-Put your righrt arm over your left shoulder- S [15:57] ^^ http://gquigs.blogspot.com/2009/03/ctrl-alt-backspace-restarts-x-dont-do.html [15:59] james147: have you some gtk applications ? [16:00] * james147 trys hard not to ^^ [16:00] DarthFrog: X killed it upstream. Distros followed the default [16:00] james147: could you run someone like root? [16:01] Peace-: have you set up the gtk apps to use the kde theme on the root profile? [16:01] Daskreech: Doesn't matter who killed it (but thanks anyway). [16:01] yes but it doesn't work on natty james147 [16:01] * james147 dosnt use natty ^^ [16:01] james147: :P [16:02] james147: on maverick works i guess [16:02] xD [16:02] * james147 dosnt use maverick either :D [16:02] james147: wt he [16:02] xD [16:03] DarthFrog: Just saying why it was disabled :) [16:03] Peace-: :) currently running arch ^^ but i like this channel so decided to say :D [16:03] Daskreech: That's not saying why, that's saying who. :-) [16:04] james147: :P [16:04] Daskreech: I would say because too many new users hit it by accdent not relising what it does [16:04] though i cannot be sure [16:04] DarthFrog: Ah good point. I think the arguement thrown around was that they had a lot of reports of people hitting ctrl and backspace at the same tim and killing the server so it was disabled since the new X should be more stable [16:05] alt+crtl+backspace was too easy to hit... i had dose it a few times by accdent [16:05] I'm not sure if that's the official reason (though history will verify that I've personally hit that combo while typing quickly dozens of times) but it was certainly the most thrown around reason [16:05] james147: how do you manage to hit that by accident? :) [16:05] BluesKaj: are you there? [16:05] quant: not rleaseing keys quick enough :) [16:06] quant: type quickly [16:07] Shift backspace is another one [16:08] Daskreech: I type quicky, but I don't get in a position close to that combo to hit it :) [16:08] Daskreech: you're probably using many combos that I'm not [16:08] quant: not in general typing, but when useing key combos [16:08] quant: indeed :) [16:09] crtl + alt + t is not terminal in kubuntu :( [16:10] * james147 uses meta+t ... but he set that up manually [16:10] setup a global shortcut? [16:10] Daskreech: yeah [16:10] or install yakuake? [16:10] yaukuake +1 [16:10] yakuake being? [16:10] quant: ^^ unlike gnome you can assign shortcuts to any application using kmenuedit (or eight click the menu > edit menu) [16:10] quant: a drop down terminal [16:10] !yaukuake [16:11] kps_foo: no, never liked those :) integrated in dolphin, right? I'm more for a separate terminal [16:11] quant: Press F12 and a terminal drops down. Name means "yet another kuake" terminal. [16:11] nope they run without dolphin running too... [16:12] btw it seems that firefox 4 stable is on the servers, although no official announcement yet [16:13] !info yakuake [16:13] yakuake (source: yakuake): a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.9.7-1ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 299 kB, installed size 2104 kB [16:13] Daskreech: I'm much to anal to have a terminal that I cannot place where I like on the desktop [16:14] quant: :) [16:18] quant: :) Yakuake is very configurable but I suppose not quite enough for you [16:19] Daskreech: I'm just used to terminal being a normal program in its own window and I'm an old fart, that's all :) [16:19] hi [16:20] quant: Once you get used to using yakuake, you'll not want to do without it. [16:20] DarthFrog: Depends ^^ I have been using it for a while... yet I still seem to just launch a new terminal most of the time :p [16:21] espically when i need to do multiple things ^^ [16:21] james147: Do you actually prefer that over using yakuake or is it a matter of habit? [16:21] quant: if you were really an old fart you would want a terminal to come with a high band widtg connection back to the OneTrueServer [16:21] Daskreech: I'm 31, so you make your own definition for me ;-) [16:22] quant: in fart years? [16:22] Daskreech: but I do tend to set it to green on black very often :) similar to yellow on black that I was using on terminals in my local computer center in 90's :) [16:22] :-) [16:29] Riddell: ping [16:29] hi stephdg [16:29] Riddell: pm? [16:30] if you have something secret to talk about [16:30] otherwise here is good [16:30] Riddell: no not secret, i'm just a bit confused [16:30] what's confusing? [16:30] i can't figure out how to install the wireless driver [16:31] stephdg: do you have a (wired) network connection? [16:31] Riddell: of course, or how else would i be on irc? [16:31] and how do i join freenode using this quassel program? === sayakb_ is now known as sayakb === sean is now known as Guest6746 [16:31] stephdg: then in theory it takes running jockey and it should prompt you [16:32] jockey is called "Additional Drivers" in the menu [16:32] Riddell: i did that [16:32] its telling me no proprietary software is being used [16:33] stephdg: does it give an option for anything? [16:33] it says its downloading files...but nothing [16:33] but then it says that no proprietary files being used [16:35] stephdg: about freenode - file -> networks in quassel [16:36] quant: but its not letting me use my nick [16:36] stephdg: in what way? [16:37] quant: its telling me its already in use...when i'm sure its not [16:38] stephdg: why are you sure it's not in use? [16:38] stephdg: is there any to enable? [16:38] quant: because i don't see that nick in the channel i'm in [16:38] Riddell: enable what? last time i had to install something [16:40] stephdg: does it list any drivers at all? [16:40] Riddell: no [16:40] well that's no good [16:40] exactly [16:40] when i had installed fedora indra had to google...and figure it out [16:42] stephdg: probably installing broadcom-sta-source is what you want to do [16:43] but how do i do that? [16:43] with that link you sent earlier? [16:43] stephdg: using software management in system settings or command line sudo apt-get install broadcom-sta-source [16:44] ok Riddell am trying that...lets hope it works [16:44] Riddell: and since i like kubuntu, and its sorta installed, now...is there any way i can move all my files from fedora to here and then take over that partition? [16:44] or would i have to move all the files and then re-install kubuntu? [16:45] stephdg: you have another partition with fedora on it including /home ? [16:45] Riddell: yep [16:46] stephdg: you could mount that partition and link the kubuntu /home to its home/ [16:46] you'd risk having config file issues if there were different versions of apps installed [16:46] ohhh, well, its mostly i just want my music and photos and misc files [16:46] nothing major [16:47]