[01:26] <HTjeB> exit
[01:28] <sre-su> !info wmaker
[01:55] <s0phia> hey, question guys
[01:56] <s0phia> headphones work for amarok, but not youtube
[01:56] <s0phia> what do? :P
[01:57] <Walzmyn> that's weird
[02:28] <s0phia> Daskreech, can you help with my problem? x.x
[02:28] <Daskreech> hi
[02:28] <Daskreech> What is the problem?
[02:40] <lordars> kubuntu-es
[02:49] <tertl3> allo
[02:50] <tertl3> i hear that KDE is loosing traction?
[02:50] <tertl3> it seems fine to me but idk
[02:50] <Daskreech> tertl3: you can ignore that :)
[02:50] <tertl3> ok
[02:51] <Daskreech> tertl3: though in reality it does not make a difference
[02:51] <tertl3> well, if you look at it like that then nothing really makes a difference
[02:51] <beast> I need help with make on wireless driver
[02:52] <beast> Can anybody help me with a wireless network card driver
[02:53] <Mase_wk> beast: we don't  really know because you haven't given us any information
[02:53] <beast> Was waiting see somebody had time before I put out all the dirty details
[02:54] <tertl3> lol, (no harm intended)
[02:54] <beast> I am trying to do a make on a ralink device 3062
[02:54] <beast> but I keep getting a gcc error
[02:55] <beast> installed gcc but still says it can't find it
[02:55] <Mase_wk> beast: well if someone doesn't know what issue  your facing they don't know if it's something they have time / knowledge for.
[02:55] <beast> ok have i given you enough details? can you help me?
[02:56] <Mase_wk> beast: why are you compiling the ralink driver ?
[02:57] <Daskreech> tertl3: With FOSS that may be true.
[02:57] <Daskreech> tertl3: if you like using something then use it
[02:57] <beast> trying to I edited a file as directed by the readme and then run make but that is when I get the error that says it can't find gcc
[02:57] <Mase_wk> is it not in the kernel because it's too new or because it's non-free software ?
[02:57] <beast> so I installed gcc but I still get the error
[02:57] <beast> ok any suggestions on how to get an older version?
[02:58] <Mase_wk> no it was a question
[02:58] <beast> oh
[02:58] <beast> I'm not sure how to answer your question
[02:58] <Mase_wk> ok, what license is the ralink driver under ?
[02:59] <beast> I just did a sudo apt-get install gcc
[03:00] <Mase_wk> ok well, i may or may not be able to help you. I am trying to ascertain if i can help you, however in order to do that, i need you to answer the questions i have asked.
[03:01] <Mase_wk> alternately there may be someone else in the channel that can help you.
[03:01] <Mase_wk> however you may have to be patient
[03:02] <Mase_wk> guess he didn't want my help
[03:03] <beast> sorry computer froze and had to reboot
[03:03] <beast> sorry computer froze and had to reboot
[03:03] <beast> let me look for the  license info
[03:04] <Mase_wk> ok. also which version of kubuntu are you running ?
[03:05] <beast> I running 10.10 Kubuntu. Can't find any license info but I got it from the ralink website so maybe there is something there
[03:06] <beast> GNU license
[03:06] <beast> Free software
[03:08] <Mase_wk> cool
[03:08] <Mase_wk> ok so is it in a newer kernel ?
[03:08] <Mase_wk> 2.6.38 ?
[03:09] <Mase_wk> because if it has, then it's probably easier to just use a newer kernel
[03:09] <beast> how do I find out?
[03:11] <Mase_wk> erm well i had a look in the 2.6.38 changelog and it's possible it got merged
[03:11] <beast> sorry I'm a bit helpless still
[03:11] <Mase_wk> no worries
[03:11] <Mase_wk> it's not trivial
[03:11] <Mase_wk> generally we just encourage people to wait until it's supported out the box
[03:12] <Mase_wk> so that would be natty, but if you're in a hurry there are 'testing' kernels
[03:12] <Mase_wk> which can be installed
[03:12] <Mase_wk> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.38-natty/
[03:12] <beast> wireless is my only choice for my situation so it's either get it working or look for a different way to connect to the network
[03:12] <Mase_wk> it's for natty, but it will work in maverick
[03:13] <Mase_wk> but YMMV
[03:13] <Mase_wk> grab the _all.deb and the 2 others which match your achitecture
[03:13] <Mase_wk> and and install them by sudo  dpkg -i *.deb
[03:13] <beast> cool thanks will do
[03:14] <Mase_wk> please be aware though, these are not production kernels
[03:14] <Mase_wk> at least not for ubuntu
[03:14] <Mase_wk> they don't contain any patches which ubuntu make against the kernel so if you have other random hardware which is not supported in the mainline
[03:14] <beast> ok I don't mind taking chances lol
[03:14] <Mase_wk> it probably will not work.
[03:14] <Mase_wk> ok
[03:15] <Mase_wk> good luck
[03:15] <beast> I don't think I do thanks
[03:16] <Daskreech> beast: You should apt-get install build-essential
[03:17] <beast> ok thanks
[03:17] <Daskreech> beast: what is the issue you are having?
[03:17] <Mase_wk> Daskreech: ralink wifi driver is not in his kernel
[03:17] <Daskreech> How?
[03:17] <beast> I can't see my wireless network to connect
[03:18] <Daskreech> beast: laptop?
[03:18] <beast> so I need driver to make it work but it is not in the kernel as Mase said
[03:18] <beast> no desktop
[03:18] <beast> former Vista desktop
[03:18] <Mase_wk> Daskreech: his chipset only just got merged in 2.6.38 from what i can see
[03:18] <Daskreech> beast: do you see the wifi card in lspci ?
[03:18] <Daskreech>  or lshw -C network ?
[03:18] <Daskreech> Mase_wk: Ah really? Hmm ok
[03:19] <Daskreech> Might want to try a new kernel then as stated
[03:19] <Daskreech> do you want to try that first?
[03:19] <Mase_wk> Daskreech: well i'm not 100% sure
[03:19] <Daskreech> <_<
[03:19] <Mase_wk> the changelogs say 2800
[03:19] <beast> sure
[03:19] <beast> LOL
[03:19] <Mase_wk> which I *think* is his chipset from the ralink page
[03:19] <Mase_wk> but it only gives model no's
[03:19] <Mase_wk> so it makes it a bit difficult
[03:20] <Mase_wk> i'm reasonably sure, but not 100% certain
[03:20] <Mase_wk> so by all means do some more tests
[03:20] <beast> its a fresh install so at worst I scrap it and start over
[03:21] <Daskreech> beast: 64 bit or 32 bit ?
[03:22] <beast> amd64
[03:22] <beast> just installed gcc and need to restart brb
[03:22] <Daskreech> http://ubuntu.wallawalla.edu/ubuntu//pool/main/l/linux/kernel-image-2.6.38-7-generic-di_2.6.38-7.36_amd64.udeb
[03:22] <Daskreech> wget that to the computer
[03:22] <beast> ok
[03:23] <beast> downloading now
[03:25] <Daskreech> when it's done do a sudo dpkg -i /path/to/whereyou/downloaded/to
[03:25] <beast> ok
[03:25] <Daskreech> http://torrentdeluxe.com/torrents/590118-ubuntu-11.04-keygen.rar.html
[03:25] <Daskreech> Brilliant
[03:26] <Mase_wk> haha
[03:27] <Daskreech> beast: let me know if that gives an error
[03:28] <beast> ok
[03:29] <beast> subprocess dpkg-split returned error exit status 2
[03:31] <beast> nevermind I screwed up it worked this time
[03:32] <beast> I forgot to tell which file to process lol
[03:32] <beast> make works now! thanks guys
[03:32] <Daskreech> beast: ha of course it does
[03:32] <Daskreech> beast: ok try and reboot and choose the 2.6.38 kernel and see if it boots
[03:33] <beast> ok
[03:33] <Daskreech> if it doesn't then just reboot and choose the next oldest one
[03:33] <beast> ok
[03:49] <Daskreech> Broked?
[05:04] <dfrey> Is there a way to get the kernel config that is used to build the "-generic" kernels for (k)ubuntu?
[05:19] <Daskreech> dfrey: ask for them?
[05:30] <petete> look at /boot/config-*
[06:12] <birdinatux> firefox installer ran successfully but only the installer shows up in the menu. how do i access the actual broswer?
[06:14] <Daskreech> birdinatux: Shoudl be in the menu
[06:14] <Daskreech> birdinatux: try alt+f2 -> firefox
[06:15] <birdinatux> still only installer shows.
[06:15] <birdinatux> i am running off live cd if that matters
[06:18] <birdinatux> I was going to install but the  cd is scratched and freezes half way. Was going to download the iso to burn to a new one, but cant get a browser.  Firefox only shows installer, and rekong crashes at startup every time i run it
[06:20] <Daskreech> birdinatux: It comes with a browser
[06:20] <Daskreech> Konqueror works
[06:21] <birdinatux> rekonq web browser wont run. crashes every time i try to start it
[06:21] <Daskreech> birdinatux: also as a question what were you going to use to burn?
[06:21] <Daskreech> birdinatux: Konqueror?
[06:21] <birdinatux> k3b
[06:21] <Daskreech> from the LiveCD?
[06:22] <birdinatux> yeah
[06:22] <Daskreech> ha
[06:22] <Daskreech> where are you downloading it to ?
[06:23] <birdinatux> was going to d/l it to a flash drive, the iso
[06:23] <birdinatux> should   I just boot into windows and do it there?
[06:25] <Daskreech> if all you are doing is burning a CD and you have the software under windows  I don't see why not
[06:25] <birdinatux> ok, shall return.
[06:25] <james147> birdinatux: probally best, if the installer is crupt due to the scratch there is no telling what else it ^^
[06:26] <james147> (or at least another os
[06:29] <birdinatux> :)
[06:30] <birdinatux> is it really worth getting the 64bit edition over the 32 bit edition?
[06:31] <susundberg> Well i wouldn't re-install my os for that but when installing newer version certainly i would get the 64b edition
[06:32] <birdinatux> 64 it is then.  Just ppl saying not many 64 bit apps so no point...
[06:32] <susundberg> i guess there is not much difference in speed either way. And if you do not have more than 3Gb memory then thats not problem either ..
[06:32] <Daskreech> birdinatux: They are all 64 bit apps
[06:33] <Daskreech>  Being free and open does have perks
[06:33] <susundberg> :)
[06:33] <birdinatux> nice
[06:33] <birdinatux> I have 8gb ram
[06:33] <susundberg> so 32b program cannot use that all, so 64b might make sense ..
[06:38] <birdinatux> 45 mins til burn time w00t
[06:42] <birdinatux> While i'm downloading.... I have a ati radeon 5770 hd graphics card.  Should i use the drivers provided by kubuntu, or download the proprietary ones?
[06:48] <james147> birdinatux: install the preoprietary one using "aditional drivers" ... or "hardware drivers" (or what ever its called nowa days :p... or run jockey-kde form the terminal)
[06:49] <birdinatux> james147 cool. thanks
[07:27] <maqiali> HELLO
[07:29] <maqiali> 還
[07:31] <Daskreech> Hello
[07:31] <Daskreech> how are you?
[07:32] <maqiali> 神馬
[07:36] <eagles0513875> hey Daskreech
[07:37] <Daskreech> hi eagles0513875
[07:38] <eagles0513875> how goes it :)
[07:38] <Daskreech> Alright :)
[07:40] <eagles0513875> was gonna ask if you know a kde front end to drop box
[07:40] <eagles0513875> lol but i remembered the name
[07:40] <eagles0513875> kfilebox
[07:40] <eagles0513875> !kfilebox
[07:40] <eagles0513875> !info kfilebox
[07:40] <eagles0513875> O_o
[07:40] <eagles0513875> interesting
[07:40] <FloodBotK1> eagles0513875: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:41] <eagles0513875> lol talk about sensitive
[07:42] <birdinatux> Install went smooth :)
[07:44] <Daskreech> birdinatux: much better
[07:44] <Daskreech> ha
[07:46] <birdinatux> kde was laggy on my old comp, but this one I just built it's running great!
[07:47] <Daskreech> eagles0513875: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kdropbox/files/kfilebox-0.4.7/Kubuntu 10.10/
[07:47] <Daskreech> ^_^
[07:48] <eagles0513875> lol Daskreech way ahead of you bro lol im just finding it interesting that its not in the repos
[07:48] <eagles0513875> Daskreech: im really digging using html5 based youtube on my mac
[07:48] <Daskreech> can you dig it? can you dig it?
[07:48] <eagles0513875> it buffers a hell of alot faster
[07:49] <eagles0513875> even downloading off u tube it downloads a hell of alot faster too
[07:49] <eagles0513875> lol
[08:21] <naftilos76> hi, does anyone know where the notes plasmoid usually with yellow background keep its' files? I have installed everything from scratch and forgot to copy the notes from the plasmoid. Can anyone help?
[08:22]  * james147 thinks its in ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc    ...
[08:22] <naftilos76> I can find anything in ".kde/share/apps/plasma/plasmoids/"
[08:23] <naftilos76> ok let me have a look
[11:23] <coolns> hi
[11:23] <coolns> anyone there
[11:24] <nigelb> that wasn't long.
[13:20] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[13:27] <cadomeireles> Hello, someone know how install the printer Kyocera FS-1016? I have already tryed use the foo2kyo, but don't compile.
[14:47] <Note-book> my KDE screensaver wont start :(
[15:06] <k00pa> so I have installed the propriety drivers, how can I get dual screen working?
[15:07] <k00pa> ati card
[15:07] <k00pa> on displays I can see two screens
[15:07] <k00pa> but for some reason it wont work
[15:07] <james147> k00pa: try this:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[15:07] <k00pa> kk
[15:07] <rosco_y> Does anyone know why the desktop pager widget gets colored like a progress bar when I have certain Desktops selected (what does it signify)?
[15:07] <rosco_y> k00pa: is it an NVIDIA driver?
[15:08] <james147> rosco_y: ati ^^ not nvidia
[15:08] <rosco_y> sorry, I guess not huh
[15:08] <k00pa> rosco_y: I have ati card
[15:08] <rosco_y> It was my experience that the open source driver was a lot better for dual head setups than the proprietary driver
[15:08] <james147> rosco_y: not sure what you mean... a screen shot might help
[15:09] <k00pa> hmm
[15:09] <k00pa> so what driver should i install?
[15:09] <k00pa> big-desktop?
[15:09] <james147> rosco_y: depends which drivers ^^
[15:09] <rosco_y> I used to have ati, and it was very easy to configure the open source drivers, the ati proprietary drivers where the pits
[15:09] <james147> k00pa: i would think so, but I am not fimilar with ati cards :)
[15:10] <k00pa> hmm hmm
[15:11] <rosco_y> I would google for some info on installing/using the open source drivers, although I think they are installed by default in 10.10
[15:11] <k00pa> yeah it installed something
[15:11] <k00pa> but aint working with dual screen
[15:11] <rosco_y> I think if you open the "Additional Drivers" dialog, and tell your system "Not to use" the proprietary driver, it defaults to the opensource driver, but you should double-check
[15:12] <rosco_y> k00pa: are you using the propriety driver?
[15:12] <k00pa> restarting x ... ->
[15:12] <k00pa> yeah
[15:12] <k00pa> why the f ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't work anymore?
[15:12] <rosco_y> it's possible to get it working, but it's very flaky
[15:12] <james147> k00pa: alt+print screen +k
[15:13] <rosco_y> what are you using your system for (gaming/programming/other)?
[15:13] <rosco_y> the proprietary driver gives you better hardware access, but it's much harder to configure
[15:14] <k00pa> coding
[15:14] <rosco_y> if your main goal is to have two monitors, then I recommend the open source driver
[15:14] <k00pa> yeaaah
[15:14] <k00pa> well how I remove the old and get the new then
[15:14] <rosco_y> use the open source driver, it's very easy to use
[15:14] <k00pa> currently at black screen..
[15:14] <rosco_y> ouch
[15:14] <k00pa> okey, where is ctrl+alt+f1 now?
[15:14] <james147> k00pa: that one hasent changed
[15:14] <rosco_y> ok I think you need to go into your xorg.conf file and fix it there
[15:14] <k00pa> hm
[15:14] <k00pa> well cant get tty1 open
[15:15] <rosco_y> I believe it's in the /etc/X11 directory
[15:15] <james147> k00pa: you capslock light toggle on your keyboard?
[15:15] <k00pa> restarted already
[15:16] <k00pa> rolling the backup of xorg
[15:16] <rosco_y> there might be a way to build a default xorg.conf file from the command line....be worth googling
[15:17] <james147> Xorg --configure i think... while X isnt running that is
[15:17] <k00pa> well I had backups
[15:17] <k00pa> so x is running now
[15:18] <k00pa> hmmm ati catalyst control center
[15:19] <rosco_y> sorry k00pa, I hated ati.  I bought a NVIDIA on sale at Newegg.  Most productive purchase I've made in a long time.
[15:21] <k00pa> rosco_y: yeaah but I think I just got this stuff working just fine using the ati ccc
[15:21] <rosco_y> I think I recall that I had luck opening the "Additoinall Drivers" dialog, and "Removing" the proprietary driver
[15:21] <k00pa> I dont have proplems with the proprietary drivers
[15:22] <k00pa> last time I used proprietary were faster than free
[15:22] <rosco_y> k00pa: here's what would happen to me:  I'd fight with it until it worked, and then when I rebooted I had to do the same thing all over again.
[15:22] <k00pa> O_o
[15:22] <rosco_y> It didn't seem to remember my settings
[15:22] <rosco_y> Well, I gotta get too it....good luck!!!
[15:23] <k00pa> Ati catalyst control for the win!
[15:23] <k00pa> install propriety drivers -> ccc configuring -> done
[15:23] <k00pa> now I have to get rid of this horrible theme
[15:35] <Daskreech> !dontzap | k00pa that should help
[15:35] <k00pa> thanks
[15:53] <Peace-> k00pa: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2011/01/19/kde-4-x-ctrl-alt-backspace-kill-the-x-server/
[15:53] <k00pa> that simple
[15:54] <k00pa> thanks
[15:54] <Peace-> :)
[15:54]  * james147 dosnt understand why people cant get use to the new combo ^^
[15:54] <k00pa> I am used to the old
[15:54] <k00pa> much better
[15:55] <k00pa> same as saying why you cant understand that some people use dovark keyboard or something :P
[15:55]  * Peace- wonders which is the new combo
[15:55] <k00pa> alt+prtn screen+k
[15:55] <Peace-> :S
[15:55]  * DarthFrog wonders why the key combo was changed in the first place.
[15:55] <Peace-> ah
[15:55] <Peace-> ok
[15:55] <k00pa> no idea
[15:56] <Peace-> guess ctrl alt backspace
[15:56] <Peace-> are too used
[15:56] <Peace-> i guess
[15:56] <Peace-> *bah *
[15:57] <DarthFrog> By that argument, CTL-ALT-Delete should be changed, too.
[15:57] <Peace-> who has 4.6.1 can try to run an gtk application like root?
[15:57] <Peace-> should appear ugly
[15:57] <DarthFrog> Meta-CTL-Put your righrt arm over your left shoulder- S
[15:57] <james147> ^^ http://gquigs.blogspot.com/2009/03/ctrl-alt-backspace-restarts-x-dont-do.html
[15:59] <Peace-> james147: have you some gtk applications ?
[16:00]  * james147 trys hard not to ^^
[16:00] <Daskreech> DarthFrog: X killed it upstream. Distros followed the default
[16:00] <Peace-> james147: could you run someone like root?
[16:01] <james147> Peace-: have you set up the gtk apps to use the kde theme on the root profile?
[16:01] <DarthFrog> Daskreech: Doesn't matter who killed it (but thanks anyway).
[16:01] <Peace-> yes but it doesn't work on natty james147
[16:01]  * james147 dosnt use natty ^^
[16:01] <Peace-> james147: :P
[16:02] <Peace-> james147: on maverick works i guess
[16:02] <Peace-> xD
[16:02]  * james147 dosnt use maverick either :D
[16:02] <Peace-> james147: wt he
[16:02] <Peace-> xD
[16:03] <Daskreech> DarthFrog: Just saying why it was disabled :)
[16:03] <james147> Peace-: :) currently running arch ^^ but i like this channel so decided to say :D
[16:03] <DarthFrog> Daskreech: That's not saying why, that's saying who. :-)
[16:04] <Peace-> james147: :P
[16:04] <james147> Daskreech: I would say because too many new users hit it by accdent not relising what it does
[16:04] <james147> though i cannot be sure
[16:04] <Daskreech> DarthFrog: Ah good point. I think the arguement thrown around was that they had a lot of reports of people hitting ctrl and backspace at the same tim and killing the server so it was disabled since the new X should be more stable
[16:05] <james147> alt+crtl+backspace was too easy to hit... i had dose it a few times by accdent
[16:05] <Daskreech> I'm not sure if that's the official reason (though history will verify that I've personally hit that combo while typing quickly dozens of times) but it was certainly the most thrown around reason
[16:05] <quant> james147: how do you manage to hit that by accident? :)
[16:05] <Peace-> BluesKaj: are you there?
[16:05] <james147> quant: not rleaseing keys quick enough :)
[16:06] <Daskreech> quant: type quickly
[16:07] <Daskreech> Shift backspace is another one
[16:08] <quant> Daskreech: I type quicky, but I don't get in a position close to that combo to hit it :)
[16:08] <quant> Daskreech: you're probably using many combos that I'm not
[16:08] <james147> quant: not in general typing, but when useing key combos
[16:08] <Daskreech> quant: indeed :)
[16:09] <quant> crtl + alt + t is not terminal in kubuntu :(
[16:10]  * james147 uses meta+t  ... but he set that up manually
[16:10] <Daskreech> setup a global shortcut?
[16:10] <quant> Daskreech: yeah
[16:10] <Daskreech> or install yakuake?
[16:10] <kps_foo> yaukuake +1
[16:10] <quant> yakuake being?
[16:10] <james147> quant: ^^ unlike gnome you can assign shortcuts to any application using kmenuedit (or eight click the menu > edit menu)
[16:10] <kps_foo> quant: a drop down terminal
[16:10] <DarthFrog> !yaukuake
[16:11] <quant> kps_foo: no, never liked those :) integrated in dolphin, right? I'm more for a separate terminal
[16:11] <DarthFrog> quant:  Press F12 and a terminal drops down.  Name means "yet another kuake" terminal.
[16:11] <kps_foo> nope they run without dolphin running too...
[16:12] <quant> btw it seems that firefox 4 stable is on the servers, although no official announcement yet
[16:13] <Daskreech> !info yakuake
[16:13] <quant> Daskreech: I'm much to anal to have a terminal that I cannot place where I like on the desktop
[16:14] <kps_foo> quant:    :)
[16:18] <Daskreech> quant: :) Yakuake is very configurable but I suppose not quite enough for you
[16:19] <quant> Daskreech: I'm just used to terminal being a normal program in its own window and I'm an old fart, that's all :)
[16:19] <clarita_> hi
[16:20] <DarthFrog> quant: Once you get used to using yakuake, you'll not want to do without it.
[16:20] <james147> DarthFrog: Depends ^^ I have been using it for a while... yet I still seem to just launch a new terminal most of the time :p
[16:21] <james147> espically when i need to do multiple things ^^
[16:21] <DarthFrog> james147:  Do you actually prefer that over using yakuake or is it a matter of habit?
[16:21] <Daskreech> quant: if you were really an old fart you would want a terminal to come with a high band widtg connection back to the OneTrueServer
[16:21] <quant> Daskreech: I'm 31, so you make your own definition for me ;-)
[16:22] <Daskreech> quant: in fart years?
[16:22] <quant> Daskreech: but I do tend to set it to green on black very often :) similar to yellow on black that I was using on terminals in my local computer center in 90's :)
[16:22] <Daskreech> :-)
[16:29] <stephdg> Riddell: ping
[16:29] <Riddell> hi stephdg
[16:29] <stephdg> Riddell: pm?
[16:30] <Riddell> if you have something secret to talk about
[16:30] <Riddell> otherwise here is good
[16:30] <stephdg> Riddell: no not secret, i'm just a bit confused
[16:30] <Riddell> what's confusing?
[16:30] <stephdg> i can't figure out how to install the wireless driver
[16:31] <Riddell> stephdg: do you have a (wired) network connection?
[16:31] <stephdg> Riddell: of course, or how else would i be on irc?
[16:31] <stephdg> and how do i join freenode using this quassel program?
[16:31] <Riddell> stephdg: then in theory it takes running jockey and it should prompt you
[16:32] <Riddell> jockey is called "Additional Drivers" in the menu
[16:32] <stephdg> Riddell: i did that
[16:32] <stephdg> its telling me no proprietary software is being used
[16:33] <Riddell> stephdg: does it give an option for anything?
[16:33] <stephdg> it says its downloading files...but nothing
[16:33] <stephdg> but then it says that no proprietary files being used
[16:35] <quant> stephdg: about freenode - file -> networks in quassel
[16:36] <stephdg> quant: but its not letting me use my nick
[16:36] <quant> stephdg: in what way?
[16:37] <stephdg> quant: its telling me its already in use...when i'm sure its not
[16:38] <quant> stephdg: why are you sure it's not in use?
[16:38] <Riddell> stephdg: is there any to enable?
[16:38] <stephdg> quant: because i don't see that nick in the channel i'm in
[16:38] <stephdg> Riddell: enable what? last time i had to install something
[16:40] <Riddell> stephdg: does it list any drivers at all?
[16:40] <stephdg> Riddell: no
[16:40] <Riddell> well that's no good
[16:40] <stephdg> exactly
[16:40] <stephdg> when i had installed fedora indra had to google...and figure it out
[16:42] <Riddell> stephdg: probably installing broadcom-sta-source is what you want to do
[16:43] <stephdg> but how do i do that?
[16:43] <stephdg> with that link you sent earlier?
[16:43] <Riddell> stephdg: using software management in system settings or command line   sudo apt-get install broadcom-sta-source
[16:44] <stephdg> ok Riddell am trying that...lets hope it works
[16:44] <stephdg> Riddell: and since i like kubuntu, and its sorta installed, now...is there any way i can move all my files from fedora to here and then take over that partition?
[16:44] <stephdg> or would i have to move all the files and then re-install kubuntu?
[16:45] <Riddell> stephdg: you have another partition with fedora on it including /home ?
[16:45] <stephdg> Riddell: yep
[16:46] <Riddell> stephdg: you could mount that partition and link the kubuntu /home to its home/
[16:46] <Riddell> you'd risk having config file issues if there were different versions of apps installed
[16:46] <stephdg> ohhh, well, its mostly i just want my music and photos and misc files
[16:46] <stephdg> nothing major
[16:47] <Riddell> stephdg: you should be able to just go into the file manager and mount the partition
[16:47] <Riddell> then you can access the files
[16:47] <stephdg> ok :)
[16:47] <stephdg> then i can just take over the partition, or do i need to re-install kubuntu over fedora?
[16:48] <Riddell> then you will be accessing files from the partition (I'm not sure what you mean by take over the partition)
[16:48] <stephdg> Riddell: what i'm wanting to do is get rid of fedora...so...would i have to re-install the kubuntu over it, or can i somehow magically just take it over?
[16:49] <Riddell> stephdg: you could format the fedora partition and use that as the kubuntu /home
[16:49] <Riddell> well that would wipe your existing files
[16:50] <Riddell> so that might not be what you want
[16:50] <stephdg> well, if i copied them over it wouldn't be such a big deal
[16:50] <Riddell> yes, if you hvae space for that
[16:50] <stephdg> i have all of my files backed-up except the most recent movies / photos / slides
[16:54] <stephdg> Riddell: i did that, now what? i still don't see any wifi points
[16:55] <Riddell> stephdg: might be better asking hobbs now, as I say I don't have broadcom so I've never actually had to enable it
[16:56] <stephdg> ok
[17:01] <rodrigo> boa tarde a todos
[17:05] <rodrigo> sou novo no kubuntu
[17:06] <naftilos76> hi everyone, i have got a clean install right from the kubuntu iso (64bit). After i install nvidia drivers the boot splash screen goes away. Does anyone know anything about that?
[17:06] <rodrigo> e gostaria de saber se existe alguma maneira de instalar programas para win no  10.10
[17:06] <genii-around> !br | rodrigo
[17:06] <sergey_> what way, I can use subtitre in Dragon Player?
[17:09] <naftilos76> Anyone of the Kubuntu Splash Screen?
[17:10] <naftilos76> Anyone on the Kubuntu Splash Screen?
[17:31] <sergey_> I'm have *.avi file and *.srt file, but Dragon, not show subtitles, and menu item is not active
[17:32] <genii-around> sergey_: Dragon player only supports embedded subtitling, not ones in separate files
[17:33] <Peace-> sergey_: use vlc
[17:33] <Peace-> genii-around: natty ?
[17:33] <genii-around> Peace-: As far as I know it's a design decision
[17:36] <BluesKaj> hi Peace- , I was away for an hr .so I'm here now
[17:45] <stephdg> Riddell: its working now :)
[17:45] <Riddell> stephdg: the wifi?
[17:45] <stephdg> Riddell: yes :)
[17:45] <Riddell> stephdg: excellent, how did that happen?
[17:45] <stephdg> Riddell: i had to install b43-fwcutter
[17:45] <stephdg> then i ran jockey again
[17:46] <stephdg> and it found the broadcom driver
[18:04] <budweiserrr> hi
[18:05] <budweiserrr> algun español???
[18:06] <budweiserrr> me podeis dar alguna direccion con guia para usar kubuntu??
[18:06] <genii-around> !es
[18:09] <stephdg> Riddell: can you tell me how i can access my fedora partition? its telling me i'm unable to do it
[18:10] <Riddell> stephdg: what is telling you
[18:11] <Riddell> ?
[18:11] <stephdg> Riddell: could not enter folder /media/stephanie
[18:12] <Riddell> stephdg: can you do so on the command line?
[18:12] <stephdg> Riddell: well...probably, but i don't know the commands...
[18:13] <Riddell> stephdg: cd /media/stephanie
[18:13] <Riddell> ls
[18:14] <stephdg> Riddell: yes i can see the contents with the cd /media/stephanie
[18:14] <stephdg> so...can i do cp /media/stephanie to ./ ?
[18:15] <Riddell> stephdg: cp -r /media/stephanie .
[18:15] <Riddell> assuming you're in the place you want to copy it to
[18:15] <stephdg> Riddell: will that just copy it to my desktop?
[18:16] <Riddell> it will copy it to your current working directory, whatever that is
[18:16] <stephdg> ok
[18:31] <apparle> hey guys, when I use ark to compress a file with 7zip what are the settings used for compression?
[18:38] <elijah> I am trying to use Ksnapshot to drag the screenshot into Konqueror file browser per the help tool tip, when I do so I get a red, slashed circle. Is this functionality confirmed to work? My ideal use case is to drag screenshots into gmail via chrome but I want to at least be able to drag into file browser first.
[18:40] <BluesKaj> elijah, try copy and paste instead
[18:41] <elijah> copy paste works
[18:42] <BluesKaj> elijah, you don't need ksnapshot for screenshots , just save it your /home/user
[18:42] <elijah> BluesKaj: not following you, how else would I get screenshots?
[18:43] <alex1990> Hello, i tried to install a driver for my wlan card in my laptop, but i didnt succeed, the error says that i need this packages """  libc6-dev  libstdc++6-4.4-dev  build-essential  g++-4.4  g++"""" how can i get them? Do i need internet for that?
[18:43] <elijah> BluesKaj: I just found shutter, drag/drop works with gmail with it, do you know how to get printscreen hard key to work with shutter instead of ksnapshot?
[18:44] <Peace-> alex1990: i guess so
[18:44] <Peace-> alex1990: ya...
[18:44] <BluesKaj> elijah, do you have a prtscn key ?
[18:44] <Peace-> alex1990: put the ethernet up
[18:44] <elijah> BluesKaj: yes
[18:44] <BluesKaj> use that elijah
[18:44] <elijah> BluesKaj: where do I program it to use shutter?
[18:45] <alex1990> ok peace. I m from germany and i asked in a german forum, but nobody could help me to fix the errors, i downloaded many files, but the error ist almost every time the same
[18:45] <Peace-> alex1990: wel downloading dependeces = packages you need is a pain
[18:45] <Peace-> alex1990: without internet
[18:45] <Peace-> alex1990: so use the ethernet connection
[18:45] <Peace-> alex1990: download the stuff..
[18:45] <Peace-> alex1990: set well the wlan
[18:45] <alex1990> i have internet (wlan) actually im on my windows7 :(
[18:46] <BluesKaj> elijah, that key is linked to snapshot , save the shot and copy and paste
[18:46] <alex1990> but how to download the packages on kubuntu? and how to install them, where to find them? i can put my ethernet cable on
[18:46] <Peace-> alex1990: you ahve a router?
[18:46] <BluesKaj> elijah, ksnapshot that is
[18:46] <elijah> BluesKaj: drag/drop is much more convenient, I found out how to reprogram prtscrn button
[18:46] <alex1990> yes, i have a router
[18:47] <Peace-> alex1990: so use the ethernet
[18:47] <Peace-> alex1990: waht's the problem
[18:47] <BluesKaj> elijah, well, whatever works for you
[18:47] <alex1990> Okay, and how to download? sudo apt-get ?
[18:48] <Peace-> alex1990: sudo apt-get udate && sudo apt-get install PACKAGES
[18:48] <alex1990> thx
[19:00] <Mayank> Hello, how do i change the default Kubuntu (blue screen with loading dots) screen that appears while booting ?
[19:02] <masese> hello
[19:04] <masese> can anyone help me solve this problem?
[19:05] <Mayank> !ask
[19:07] <masese> how to setup ZTEMT USB MODEM in kubuntu 10.04?
[19:12] <Mayank> masese: I do not know about ZMET modem in particular, but most modems in ubuntu do work after you install the drivers when u insert the modem for the first time, if u ask what exactly is ure issue, people are more likely to help
[19:16] <masese> Mayank: ZTEMT moden is a CDMA2000 1x/EV-DO modem a product from ZTE corparation.
[19:17] <masese> Model: AC2726
[19:20] <masese> when i plug it the system sees it as a flash disk
[19:36] <genii-around> masese: http://www.ztemt.com.cn/ennewzte/service/ziliao.action shows there an ubuntu driver
[19:37] <Matisse> hi
[19:37] <Matisse> I have attached a new keyboard to my system and changed the settings from generic 102 -> 105 keys keyboard
[19:38] <Matisse> i thought now I can open the k-menu with the windows key or the right click menu with the other key..
[19:38] <Matisse> nothing happens, when using these keys
[19:40] <masese> Matisse: what os are you using?
[19:42] <Matisse> kubuntu
[19:42] <Matisse> 10.04
[19:45] <BluesKaj> Matisse, have you rebooted since connecting the new KB ? ..I have to ask :)
[19:49] <Matisse> BluesKaj, i did :)
[20:02] <masese> genii-around: that gives me the settings for ubuntu 9.04. i need for 10.04.
[20:07] <genii-around> masese: I'm pretty sure it works with 10.04 as well.
[20:08] <masese> ok. let me try it
[20:15] <Matisse> how can I check if the windows key is pressed?
[20:15] <Peace-> Matisse: xev
[20:18] <wn1zid> im new to wireless, it works good in ubuntu, on the other hand, im not sure how to in kubuntu, any pointers ??
[20:19] <wn1zid> it sees the network, but not connecting
[20:20] <Matisse> describe more briefly
[20:20] <wn1zid> in networking it sees the network, and i put the pass in, but no connect.
[20:24] <wn1zid> in ubuntu, it came up with asking me for the wep name and pass and connected, kubuntu dont do that
[20:28] <wn1zid> thanks anyway, guess ill have to go where the pros are.
[20:30] <masese_> genii-around: thanks alot. it worked.
[20:39] <Matisse> how do I temporally stop compiz? or how do i see if its running?
[20:44] <kkszysiu> Hello
[20:45] <kkszysiu> Is possible to make dist upgrade of Kubuntu from 10.10 to 11.04 easily?
[20:46] <Matisse> is 11.04 beta?
[20:46] <k00pa> kkszysiu: when its released you will be able to do it without problems
[20:47] <k00pa> kkszysiu: but 11.04 isn't out yet so I dont know for sure
[20:47] <kkszysiu> I got new laptop and I want to help guys with hybrid graphics drivers feature
[20:48] <Matisse> ps ax | grep compiz   <-- told me that compiz is running ... how do i start a x-/kde-session without it?
[20:48] <kkszysiu> But for that I need  noveau nVidia drivers
[20:51] <Matisse> fuck
[20:51] <maco> !language
[20:51] <Matisse> d*%&§/$ it
[20:51] <Matisse> better?
[20:51] <kkszysiu> YEap
[20:51] <kkszysiu> A lot
[20:52] <Matisse> so, I changed the window manager with the tray icon to icewm... which has no tray icons...
[20:52] <Torch> Matisse: you should be able to run another wm from a shell with, e.g., "kwin --replace"
[20:53] <Matisse> thx!
[20:53] <Matisse> well, after changing the window manager i tried     ps ax | grep compiz
[20:54] <Matisse> but it tells me that some programs are running with compiz as option (f.e. kdeinit4: ksmserver [kdeinit] --windowmanager /usr/bin/compiz )
[20:54] <Torch> Matisse: check system settings -> default applications -> Window manager
[20:55] <Mayank> Hello, to change the usplash screen to a customized logo, I update the symbolic link it /etc/alternatives/default.plymouth after updating the kubuntu-logo.script file for logo_filename with the new file, but this does not seem to work, i still get the blue kubuntu usplash screen. what am i missing?
[20:55] <Matisse> Torch, kwin has been set...
[20:56] <Mayank> I have checked the paths of the new .png file. it is same as the old one
[21:11] <Matisse> i've chosen ubuntuusers.de for help
[21:11] <Matisse> thx for the commands
[21:11] <Matisse> bye
[22:39] <district> is there a package that's more lightweight than kubuntu-desktop? something that will just install a functional kde and let me build it up from there?
[22:44] <Alonea> district: not easily I would say. Not just an alternate package that has the bare minimum.
[22:44] <Alonea> district: probably easier to remove the apps you don't want
[22:45] <JontheEchidna> district: kde-plasma-desktop should have just the components necessary to run the desktop, with no extra apps
[22:45] <bobo_> !list
[22:45] <district> Alonea: yeah that's what i was doing before
[22:46] <district> JontheEchidna: oh neat, i'll give that a try, thanks
[22:46] <JontheEchidna> Depends: kdebase-runtime (>= 4:4.6.1), plasma-desktop (>= 4:4.6.1), kdebase-workspace (>= 4:4.6.1), kdebase-apps (>= 4:4.6.1)
[22:47] <JontheEchidna> ok, so it does bring in dolphin, konsole and kwrite via kdebase-apps
[22:47] <JontheEchidna> but it's pretty bare-bones
[22:49] <Alonea> district: yeah, JontheEchidna knows a bit more than me on how the packages are set up. Its been forever since I have done kde...just put it back on recently. though, like I said, it might be easier to remove what you don't want than go bare and built up. I have no idea what kind of end result you are going for.
[22:49] <witti> hallo hallo!
[22:51] <district> Alonea: well i always get purge happy on a new install. was wondering if there was a simpler way from a barebones ubuntu install. trying it now.
[22:52] <district> i want to use the 4.6.1 backport as well, installing that from scratch seems nicer than replacing an older kde.
[22:53] <Alonea> district: yeah, I have more than enough space and Kubuntu doesn't install too many extra stuff. so far I have only had to viciously rip out pulseaudio. Generally if I really want to customize my linux I use other distros. As this is my netbook that I do homework on, I am just too lazy to put extra effort into the OS. I wish you luck!
[22:55] <district> Alonea: space is far from an issue :) it's more about random background things that hog resources. again, not much of an issue, until something freaks out and hogs 100% of a cpu :)
[22:56] <witti> just found this quassel by clicking too fast, kubuntu sometimes makes me crazy
[22:57] <Alonea> district: ^_^. yeah. though so far the thing that crashes the most is the desktop itself. I do get really concerned with background and extra apps in windows environements
[22:57] <district> Alonea: my current gripe is that the search indexer thing goes absolutely crazy when i select a large (3000+ page) pdf in dolphin. it runs a background task to convert the pdf to text, but it just eats cpu for several minutes. i don't even use the indexed search. :(
[22:58] <Alonea> district: ouch. don't think its freaked out on me yet, but I will watch for it
[22:59] <witti> i recently upgraded to 10.10 & love my kde3, but some things are very strange now!
[23:00] <district> Alonea: when i used kde several years ago i used to have a lot of issues with the desktop crashing. nowadays not so much. i finally returned after getting sick of gnome and it's been great.
[23:01] <Alonea> district: yeah, I just went back to kde last week after using xfce for a while. the desktop crashes sometimes on this netbook, but it picks itself back up fine
[23:15] <beast_> Well I'm back again and still can't get my 10.10 to see my wireless network. I've tried downloading, compiling and installing the drivers and firmware but it still does not work
[23:15] <beast_> can anybody help me
[23:17] <Alonea> beast_: trying to use a wrapper with windows drivers I would guess?
[23:17] <beast_> No not windows drivers linux drivers but had to modify config file do make and make install
[23:18] <beast_> and then load the driver. All seem to go well after a few twists and turns lol
[23:18] <beast_> but still won't show my network to connect to it
[23:20] <Mase_wk> beast_: what does dmesg say when your wifi card is turned on?
[23:20] <district> JontheEchidna: worked great, thanks!
[23:20] <beast_> not sure if it is on
[23:20] <JontheEchidna> district: cool
[23:20] <Mase_wk> ifconfig wlan0
[23:20] <beast_> still a bit advanced for me but I'm doing my best
[23:20] <beast_> let me check
[23:21] <beast_> wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr c8:3a:35:ca:e4:a0
[23:21] <beast_>           UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[23:21] <beast_>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[23:21] <beast_>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[23:21] <beast_>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[23:21] <FloodBotK1> beast_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:21] <beast_>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
[23:22] <beast_> did that paste come through?////
[23:22] <beast_> wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr c8:3a:35:ca:e4:a0
[23:22] <beast_> UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[23:22] <beast_> RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[23:23] <beast_> TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[23:23] <beast_> collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[23:23] <beast_> RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
[23:24] <Mase_wk> yeh perhaps use a pastebin next time
[23:24] <beast_> how does that work?
[23:24] <Mase_wk> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:24] <beast_> ok I went there but how does it get back here?
[23:24] <Mase_wk> you copy /paste it
[23:24] <beast_> ok
[23:25] <beast_> I will next time thanks
[23:25] <Mase_wk> can you paste the contents of dmesg
[23:25] <Mase_wk> please
[23:28] <beast_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/583570/
[23:28] <beast_> like that?
[23:33] <Mase_wk> yup, looking now
[23:34] <Mase_wk> beast_: what chipset did you have again, i thought yesterday you said it was a ralink
[23:35] <beast_> that's what I thought too and so that is the driver I went after
[23:35] <beast_> we got it from some commands you gave me to run
[23:35] <Mase_wk> nup, not me, i just told you how to grab the latest kernel
[23:35] <Mase_wk> from mainline i was assuming you knew what you wanted
[23:35] <Mase_wk> rt2800pci 0000:01:06.0
[23:36] <Mase_wk> that looks like realtek to me
[23:36] <beast_> ok so I should search for that driver? Probably why it didn't work lol
[23:36] <Mase_wk> nah that means it's there an in the kernel as far as i can see
[23:37] <Mase_wk> can you pastebin the output of lspci
[23:37] <beast_> ok
[23:38] <beast_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/583575/
[23:40] <Mase_wk> ok well you do have a ralink device
[23:40] <Mase_wk> 01:06.0 Network controller: RaLink Device 3062
[23:40] <beast_> ok
[23:40] <Mase_wk> i am confused
[23:41] <beast_> me too
[23:41] <beast_> is it possible one is the ethernet and the other is the wireless?
[23:42] <Mase_wk> Yeh that's what i thought but the ethernet device should be listed in lspci also.
[23:45] <beast_> maybe i still have the box for the card and it will tell me what it is for sure
[23:45] <beast_> brb
[23:46] <nerdy_kid> anyone experiencing random hard lockups since the 2.6.35-24-generic kernel appeared in Maverick?  I have a LAMP/postfix/webmin/ssh server that is suddenly locking up really hard, only REISIUB works.
[23:51] <beast_> Mase_wk: sorry I couldn't even find the driver disk.
[23:52] <beast_> Mase_wk: I could always take my computer down and look at the card itself.
[23:53] <Mase_wk> driver disk ?
[23:54] <Mase_wk> erm yeh i am sorry i don't really have time to look into it further atm. my guess is that either another driver is trying to grab the device OR the card it's self is not yet fully supported
[23:55] <beast_> ok
[23:55] <beast_> thanks anyway