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morgan | hey, anyone have any experience with IMDB scrapers etc.. imdb-tools is useless | 10:29 |
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kenni | Hi guys, have you decided (or looked into) if the MythTV 0.24 locale configuration will be supported in Mythbuntu 11.04? With the current use of a custom database on a clean Mythbuntu install, I suppose it will be too much work to get it done in time for the 11.04 release(?) | 20:38 |
tgm4883 | kenni, locale config? | 20:53 |
kenni | tgm4883, bug #724693 | 20:54 |
Zinn | Bug 724693 in mythbuntu "New MythTV 0.24 locale auto configurations doesn't work with Mythbuntu 11.04" [Undecided, New] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/724693 | 20:54 |
tgm4883 | kenni, hmm, ok | 20:55 |
tgm4883 | kenni, what is it looking for in a clean DB? | 20:55 |
tgm4883 | superm1, ^ | 20:55 |
tgm4883 | I see no reason that couldn't still make it into 11.04. Would seem like a bug to me that is isn't already there since the functionality already exists in 0.24 | 20:58 |
kenni | tgm4883, AFAIR it checks for a clean settings table | 21:00 |
tgm4883 | kenni, ok, are you able to check if just dropping that table makes it work. I'd have to check what we currently set in there | 21:01 |
tgm4883 | which wouldn't get checked until tonight | 21:01 |
superm1 | kenni, i think the proper solution is to pass that information to the database from during install | 21:05 |
superm1 | because we definitely need to have a prefilled database (at least somewhat) so that there isn't an error the backend isn't running on first boot | 21:05 |
tgm4883 | superm1, that seems logical to me, since that type of information is already gathered during install | 21:11 |
superm1 | hell if i'm gonna have time to help get it propagated though | 21:12 |
Zinn | superm1: Please watch your language. | 21:12 |
rhpot1991 | tisk tisk superm1 :) | 21:14 |
superm1 | psh | 21:15 |
tgm4883 | well pulling it from the installer is going to be a feature | 21:16 |
tgm4883 | which would be 11.10 | 21:16 |
kenni | superm1, tgm4883: it seems like the language selection dialog is shown if the "Launguage" and "Country" field in the settings table are empty. But I haven't tested it, so I might be wrong, I just had a brief look at the code | 21:18 |
kenni | Language | 21:18 |
superm1 | kenni, i wonder if there's a good way to have it pull up that dialog the first time and still pre fill the database | 21:20 |
kenni | it will probably need some fitting to make it work in Mythbuntu | 21:20 |
kenni | stuartm is the person to talk to about it, he wrote the feature | 21:20 |
kenni | perhaps the feature needs to be altered a bit upstream, to make it compatible with distributions like Mythbuntu. At the moment the feature is written to specifically require a clean database. | 21:23 |
superm1 | well the other way to look at it is that a backend shouldn't require anything in the database to run | 21:29 |
superm1 | and then we could start with a clean database | 21:29 |
superm1 | but i think something has to happen upstream either way | 21:30 |
kenni | unfortunately, I'll not have much (if any) time to play with MythTV/Mythbuntu for the next 1½ month. Otherwise I would gladly have helped with the testing...if it's just the two mentioned fields which need to be empty to bring up the dialog, you can probably pre-populate some of the other settings if needed. You then just need to beware when you startup mythtv-setup the first time, so the language dialog will be shown in the initial startup pha | 21:30 |
kenni | superm1, why do you want to start the backend? Shouldn't you only start mythtv-setup on the initial bootup? | 21:32 |
kenni | ...and then start the backend afterwards | 21:32 |
superm1 | kenni, well we don't currently start mythtv-setup on initial bootup | 21:34 |
kenni | ok | 21:34 |
superm1 | and it requires some work to make that happen | 21:34 |
superm1 | at least in the proper fashion that it needs to | 21:34 |
kenni | yep | 21:34 |
kenni | what is the reasoning behind not starting mythtv-setup on initial bootup? I can't remember what Mythbuntu currently does - does it start the backend & the frontend on initial bootup? | 21:36 |
superm1 | yeah it starts the backend and frontend on initial bootup | 21:44 |
superm1 | mythtv-setup is a bit confusing, you dont want to boot up and immediately feel like you have to configure things | 21:45 |
superm1 | whereas if you start the frontend on first boot, you can go explore around etc | 21:45 |
kenni | yeah, okay, but not much will work and it's a quite unsupported state to be in (with no tuners defined) | 21:47 |
kenni | but I do see your point, realistically perhaps this is a 0.25/11.10/12.04 milestone | 21:48 |
kenni | to await the setup rewrite | 21:48 |
kenni | and we'll most likely also generate a lot of locale-files for 0.25 - currently only manually contributed locale configuration files exist in MythTV. Without much effort we can provide a baseline locale config (MythTV language, date format, etc.) for the most widespread locales. | 22:06 |
superm1 | kenni, exactly, 0.25 sounds a good time to do that | 22:11 |
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