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| kdub_ | reminder: ubuntu hour SD tomorrow downtown! | 16:28 |
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| === kdub_ is now known as kdub | ||
| pleia2 | kdub: can you remind me tomorrow so I can update twitter/identica/facebook with a reminder? :) | 17:11 |
| kdub | sure pleia2 | 17:12 |
| pleia2 | (typical reminder: I don't really want to hold the keys to the castle, if someone else wants to help keeping social media updated I'd be happy to share!) | 17:13 |
| iheartubuntu | i dont mind. i recall i volunteered, but then the subject changed :) things move fast in an IRC meeting! | 17:20 |
| pleia2 | oh, sorry for missing that :) | 17:21 |
| iheartubuntu | like a month or two ago. if no one else steps up, i'll do whatever you need | 17:22 |
| iheartubuntu | we were mostly talking about feeding info to all of the accounts... facebook, twitter, etc | 17:24 |
| iheartubuntu | in other news i got this old 80 year old guys computer switched over to ubuntu | 17:36 |
| iheartubuntu | its an older P4. upgraded ram from 500mb to 2gb | 17:36 |
| iheartubuntu | computer was a dog with XP on it | 17:37 |
| iheartubuntu | now it kicks butt | 17:37 |
| iheartubuntu | i was worried when evolution didnt have a an outlook PST import option, so i ran all the updates and evolution was updated (whew). all his email is there and working! | 17:37 |
| pleia2 | ram always makes a huge difference :) | 17:38 |
| pleia2 | my 2nd desktop is a p4, 3G of ram and it runs like a champ | 17:38 |
| iheartubuntu | strangely, the motherboard had TWO different ram size slots | 17:40 |
| iheartubuntu | so i wasnt about to put the 3rd chip in | 17:41 |
| iheartubuntu | id never seen that before | 17:41 |
| pleia2 | weird | 17:41 |
| iheartubuntu | it had two of one kind, and two of another kind | 17:41 |
| iheartubuntu | the only thing i could think of is the two last slots accepted an older ram chip in case people were upgrading or something. i dont know. | 17:42 |
| iheartubuntu | 2GB is better than nothing, especially for checking email | 17:42 |
| pleia2 | 2G is great | 17:43 |
| kdub | pentium 4 was a strong chipset overall | 17:44 |
| iheartubuntu | so i3 i5 and i7 are no longer pentium4? | 17:44 |
| iheartubuntu | ok i got your text thanks | 17:45 |
| pleia2 | pentium4 is long gone | 17:45 |
| pleia2 | sure | 17:45 |
| kdub | well, they're the evolution of those architectures | 17:45 |
| kdub | the big shake-up was when they slapped a second core on one die | 17:45 |
| kdub | caused all sorts of disruptions :P | 17:45 |
| pleia2 | and p4 is 32-bit | 17:45 |
| pleia2 | the i-series is 64-bit, multicore and has hardware virtualization <3 | 17:45 |
| pleia2 | I have an i7 in my desktop, paid a bundle for it a year ago but I would do it again :) | 17:46 |
| pleia2 | and my poor boyfriend, we're ordering parts and he's an AMD guy, cringing with every intel decision | 17:48 |
| iheartubuntu | i have a p4 thats 64 bit... hmmm. | 17:48 |
| iheartubuntu | i think it says hyperthreading or something | 17:49 |
| pleia2 | ah, I guess some of them were extended | 17:49 |
| pleia2 | "In 2004, the initial 32-bit x86 instruction set of the Pentium 4 microprocessors was extended by the 64-bit x86-64 set." | 17:49 |
| iheartubuntu | i think i had bought that system in 2007 | 17:51 |
| iheartubuntu | i have a very similar desktop that i bought in 2005 thats only 32 bit | 17:51 |
| iheartubuntu | does anyone here have ATT for their internet provider? im having a problem getting evolution to use SMTP. I realize i need to use att's smtp servers. evolution shows it sending the emails, but the mail never leaves the "outbox". it should go to the sent box if it worked correctly. | 19:17 |
| iheartubuntu | i used the SMTP info here: http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail | 19:18 |
| iheartubuntu | (click imap tab) | 19:18 |
| iheartubuntu | and it has the setup for outgoing mail. should have worked | 19:19 |
| iheartubuntu | maybe the smtp server info is different, although that looks like the one iveh ad to use in the past | 19:20 |
| iheartubuntu | htis family im helping cannot find their ATT fold with all the info in it | 19:21 |
| jtatum | there's a lot of at&t isps | 19:25 |
| jtatum | uverse? dsl? sbc? dialup? worldnet? | 19:25 |
| iheartubuntu | good question | 19:25 |
| iheartubuntu | i figured they are all using smtp.mail.yahoo.com as the outgoing server | 19:25 |
| jtatum | a lot of isps block all outbound smtp servers except their own | 19:25 |
| jtatum | mailhost.att.net, mail.attbi.com come up as two to try | 19:26 |
| iheartubuntu | i shouldnt assume (ass/u/me) anything otherwise i will make an ass out of u and me | 19:26 |
| jtatum | from command prompt, to test use $ telnet <host> 25 | 19:26 |
| jtatum | no need, i'm already an ass | 19:26 |
| iheartubuntu | im pretty sure att blocks. at work here we use att and i have to use their servers if i use evolution | 19:27 |
| iheartubuntu | but i dont really know what these peoples att is since they cant find their folder. | 19:27 |
| iheartubuntu | what info do i use for host? | 19:28 |
| jtatum | the host you want to test | 19:28 |
| jtatum | smtp.mail.yahoo.com or mailhost.att.net or whatever | 19:28 |
| iheartubuntu | ohh i see | 19:28 |
| jtatum | actually, seeing some junk about smtp.att.yahoo.com port 465, so try $ telnet smtp.att.yahoo.com 465 | 19:29 |
| iheartubuntu | here at work it says connected when i use smtp.att.yahoo.com | 19:30 |
| iheartubuntu | and smtp.mail,yahoo.com did not work | 19:30 |
| iheartubuntu | att worked, mail did not | 19:31 |
| iheartubuntu | i need to remote to his computer again and try it | 19:31 |
| jtatum | yes | 19:32 |
| iheartubuntu | same service, same company, just a couple miles away so i think it will work | 19:32 |
| iheartubuntu | thanks jtatum!!!! | 19:32 |
| jtatum | sure | 19:32 |
| iheartubuntu | jtatum | 20:38 |
| iheartubuntu | did not work :( | 20:38 |
| iheartubuntu | telnet showed it was fine | 20:38 |
| iheartubuntu | so the smtp server is correct | 20:38 |
| iheartubuntu | actually it should have worked | 20:38 |
| iheartubuntu | but i was using my att account login since they could not find theirs. apparently they need to use their exact login | 20:39 |
| iheartubuntu | to gain access to the smtp server | 20:39 |
| akk | I've never figured out how get att login info. We have att dsl, but no password I could use for the smtp server. | 20:41 |
| iheartubuntu | so what did u do? | 20:41 |
| akk | d has an account with another ISP and I use that instead. | 20:42 |
| akk | When we're at home we don't need a password (since we're on their net anyway) -- it's only for traveling that I need one. | 20:42 |
| iheartubuntu | well, this person i am helping uses att, and evolution isnt liking att mail server. i tried to use his domains pop server got nowhere | 20:43 |
| akk | Have you tried without a password? This is just a desktop home system? | 20:45 |
| pleia2 | iheartubuntu: might try port 587 for smtp instead | 20:46 |
| iheartubuntu | i dont think i can enter a port in evolution | 20:46 |
| pleia2 | (25 is largely deprecated, and a lot of ISPs block it both ways) | 20:46 |
| iheartubuntu | just SSL and then login and password | 20:46 |
| pleia2 | you can | 20:46 |
| iheartubuntu | i can? | 20:46 |
| akk | don't mailers like evolution do that automatically? | 20:46 |
| pleia2 | evolution would be useless if you couldn't specify the correct port (587 is correct, 25 is wrong) | 20:47 |
| iheartubuntu | i should just go over there and do it. i keep waking him out of his rocking chair to remotely try things :) | 20:47 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 20:47 |
| iheartubuntu | 465 is ATTs port | 20:47 |
| pleia2 | yeah, 465 is the ssl port | 20:48 |
| pleia2 | if it's actually an auth problem you may try variations of the usernames, some of them want "username" some of them want "username@domain.com" | 20:48 |
| pleia2 | and it's easy to mix those up when configuring | 20:49 |
| iheartubuntu | so how do i change evolutions port settings | 20:49 |
| iheartubuntu | http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=change+evolutions+port+setting | 20:50 |
| iheartubuntu | should give me something | 20:50 |
| pleia2 | :) | 20:50 |
| iheartubuntu | i add the port number at the end! duh | 20:52 |
| iheartubuntu | smtp.att.yahoo.com:25 | 20:52 |
| iheartubuntu | smtp.att.yahoo.com:465 | 20:52 |
| iheartubuntu | smtp.att.yahoo.com:587 | 20:52 |
| iheartubuntu | att calls out for port 465 though | 20:53 |
| iheartubuntu | SSL automatically uses 465? | 20:53 |
| iheartubuntu | or should i specify it | 20:53 |
| pleia2 | it should | 20:54 |
| iheartubuntu | so i should still use SSL but try 587 | 20:57 |
| pleia2 | 465 is fine | 21:02 |
| pleia2 | I was just saying 587 because you want to avoid 25 these days because a lot of ISPs block it so you can run into trouble | 21:03 |
| iheartubuntu | i must need his exact att login then its not accepting my att stuff from work. | 21:03 |
| akk | Seems so silly -- like spammers can't figure that out and switch to 587? | 21:03 |
| pleia2 | akk: it's a neverending war :) they will eventually switch to 587, but the tools they've been letting loose all over the internet via viruses and worms that hard code 25 will stop working at least | 21:04 |
| pleia2 | it's amazing how long people have these nasty things installed on their computers | 21:07 |
| akk | I got some amusing telephone spam/phish this morning. | 21:24 |
| akk | Phone rang, I answer, some guy with an Indian accent says "I'm from the the technical maintaince department. We want to help you with your Microsoft Windows computer." | 21:25 |
| akk | (this is at home) | 21:25 |
| jhana-frog | i saw a commercial the other night that was for a so-called "stem cell topical treatment" that would eliminate the effects of aging | 22:55 |
| iheartubuntu | interesting | 23:07 |
| iheartubuntu | didnt ponce de leon search for that? | 23:08 |
| pleia2 | fountains are so much more romantic than topical treatments | 23:09 |
| akk | The Fountain of Pluripotence? | 23:13 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 23:13 |
| iheartubuntu | he could have just ordered the topical treatments in 3 installments of $19.95! | 23:34 |
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