[00:09] hey guys, i need some help with gtk apps... cant make then use kde theme... [00:09] any ideas where i can find oxygen-gtk or molecule or whatever... [00:14] bump [00:14] any ideas? [00:19] mannnnnnnnnn its hard [00:49] gang whats up? I have a question about gwibber alternatives in kde or is it cool to just use gwibber itself? [00:56] you can use gwibber if you like [00:56] gtk apps work just fine in Kub. [00:56] test_: I'd just use gwibber, now with oxygen-gtk you cant tell the difference between gtk and qt apps anyway... [00:57] nerdy_kid thanks. it works better in kde than it does in gnome it seems hehe [00:57] lol [00:57] okay one more question.... Why does wubi not like windows 7? [00:58] test_: how does it not like it? [00:58] I usually dont go wubi cause the ntfs drivers really gobble CPU [00:59] nerdy_kid every time I have tried to install it python installer crashes with like 50 errors. Every single time. [00:59] nerdy_kid It goes on disk just fine after restart it goes crazy [01:00] test_: hmm idk, wubi has always been cooperative for the few times that I've used it. Maybe post some of the errors? [01:00] nerdy_kid i cant it will not even boot to desktop [01:00] :( [01:01] hmm, does the plymouth splash show? [01:01] No. No splash [01:01] ok, so windows 7 starts up like normal, as if you didnt install anything? [01:01] nerdy_kid i would insmulti touchtall directly but i like my [01:02] multi touch [01:02] sorry didn't get that [01:02] nerdy_kid it goes to boot loader but selecting kub results in python throwing a lot of errors. [01:03] nerdy_kid the majority of the errors have to do with install.py [01:04] test_: hmm, honestly though, why not just do a full install? I've done 4 or 5 in the last 3 months and its really simple [01:04] youll get full speed too, unlike wubi [01:04] I just dont get it. if I could copy and paste or screen capture i would post the errors but i cant even get that [01:04] not full installing because i use my multitouch way too much [01:05] oh ok, and multitouch doesnt work with Ubuntu. I would double check that btw, their is a special config app in the software center for touchpads [01:05] nerdy_kid i am not sure how kde handles multi-touch screens with active digitizers [01:06] nerdy_kid do you know what that config app is called by chance? [01:07] nerdy_kid mine is not a slate its a convertible [01:07] yeah, one sec -- the touchpad app is in systemsettings by default with Maverick, but there is a touch screen module too [01:08] nerdy_kid i can run kub from usb without difficulty but would rather not do it that way either [01:10] test_: ok the screen config is kde-config-tablet. I'm not sure how well multitouch works, but I would give it a quick run off of USB to see if the touch screen works at all [01:11] nerdy_kid thanks for your time [01:11] np, I don't know what to make of the install.py error though, sorry. Like I said, Id just give it a test drive off of the USB and then install in directly on the HDD if everything works. You can install it side by side with win7, so it wont be much different then a wubi install. [01:12] alright, I'm off to bed. Good luck! === Heliwr_ is now known as Heliwr [03:26] how do i prevent the mouse wheel from changing desktops. it is getting annoying everytime i scroll my desktops change [03:32] @ecinx3 install ubuntu tweak [03:33] i don't know what that is [03:34] I searched for it in synaptic i got 1 result, ltsp gui management [03:34] no goto UBUNTU SOFTWARE CENTRE and type in search [03:35] i got 2 results, same as synaptic + a hex editor [03:36] why are you doing in in synaptic package manager? [03:36] i have kubuntu [03:37] if i know the name i would just apt-get install fooapp [03:37] install it from here [03:37] http://ubuntu-tweak.com/ [03:39] sudo apt-get install ubuntu-tweak [03:41] thx ill check it later [04:13] can anyone please name me any applicatio for recovering deleted files? [04:16] what os u using? [04:16] kubuntu? [04:16] naturalpsychic: kubuntu 10.10 [04:18] @c2tarun: i wont be able to answer, someone else might, try asking === tattoo is now known as sasoritattoo [04:20] hi [04:21] hehe,i'm a freshman === sasoritattoo is now known as tattoo === tattoo is now known as sasoritattoo [04:25] @sasoritattoo welcome [04:25] Thank you! [04:26] 你能看懂汉语吗 [04:33] ecinx3: what shell are you running? [04:33] Hola [04:34] Hello [04:34] plasma [04:34] welcom [04:34] ecinx3: and mouse wheel changes the desktop? [04:34] hi sasoritattoo [04:35] Hello Andrestbn [04:35] at times, yes. [04:35] ecinx3: what versin of KDE? [04:36] 4.6.1 [04:36] it's usually the behavior when I hover the taskbar but sometimes i'm not even there and it happesn [04:40] ecinx3: Desktop settings -> Mouse actions [04:40] Maybe... [04:41] Sorry, i don't know [04:41] I don't see desktop settings [04:41] ecinx3: right click on the desktop [04:41] oh, lol [04:44] another question. [04:44] how come everytime i restart i have to set up my monitor again [04:44] i have two monitors === Mayank1 is now known as Mayank [05:09] ecinx3: sounds like you're running KDE SC 4.5, which is what came with kubuntu 10.10 [05:09] it wasn't until 4.6 that saving the settings of multiple monitors was done [05:09] I hated that, too, until I upgraded to 4.6 [05:11] it says 4.6 but i just did dist-upgrade not too long ago, i havent' restarted yet though [05:11] thanks for the heads up areichman [05:41] ecinx3: no problem. If you are in 4.6, in system settings, under multiple monitors, on the bottom, you have to hit 'save configuration' or something like that. Just applying a configuration won't save it [05:42] how do I share a wifi connection, with the nic, connected to the router, so ppl can connect to it [05:44] I don't have such option [05:45] ecinx3: I'm running 4.6.1 and at the bottom of hte Display & Monitor section of system settings is a 'Save as Default' box [05:46] I had to hit that before it would save the settings for both my monitors [05:46] I don't have that option [05:46] maybe when i restart the next time [05:46] maybe. Good luck [05:47] actually i do have save as default [05:47] under size & orientation, but not under multiple monitors [05:47] right, that's where I was. I wasn't explaning well [06:32] test [06:32] fail [06:32] hahaa [06:32] successful === bhavin is now known as bhavin_ === bhavin_ is now known as bhavin [10:38] hi [10:39] installing ubuntu on laptop but having issues at partition section because I want to save the windows partition. [10:47] installing ubuntu on laptop but having issues at partition section because I want to save the windows partition. === stephdg_ is now known as stepdg === stepdg is now known as stephdg [10:53] wow, this room is ded? [10:53] absolutely DED === stephdg is now known as stephdg|afk [11:05] livingdaylight: ? [11:11] Peace-, maybe its coz once people have kubuntu installed there are no issues- hence the room is just quiet, lol [11:11] :) [11:11] Peace-, is there a recommended sequence to creating partitions? swap first or at the end, then / and /home etc? [11:12] there is not reccomended sequence [11:12] you can do what you want... [11:12] well ... i will use this anyway [11:12] / 10 15 gig [11:12] /home 100gig [11:12] 2 3 gig for /swap [11:13] i have 80gb hd - half of my 160gb hd . Other half is windows [11:13] so create thsi [11:13] 15 gig for the system ... it even too much anyway.. [11:13] i guess 12 should be enought [11:14] ...that doesn't leave much room for playing around though [11:14] livingdaylight: how much ram do you have? [11:14] 2.5 [11:14] create 2.5 of swap [11:14] really? I thought swap was half? [11:14] Tm_T: natty compiled a lots of stuff 10.1 gig used [11:15] livingdaylight: suspend will save the section on the swap [11:15] i guess [11:15] so few swap = no resume [11:15] *no suspend [11:27] it is installing now. Installer crashed first time, but seems to be running now. Fingers crossed [11:27] Peace-, I attributed 2.5 gb swap [11:28] I been using gnome for the last few years, so, I hope I can live with kde :p [11:29] livingdaylight: read this then [11:29] livingdaylight: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/usefull-link-for-kubuntu-and-multimedia-stuff/what-you-would-want-to-do-on-startup-multimedia-side/ [11:31] Peace-, thanks [11:44] kubuntu crash again, shux [11:45] what crashed :) [11:48] iliyan, the installer [11:49] after dl, nearly all files [11:49] what version is that ? [11:50] livingdaylight: ok use the alternate iso then [11:50] Peace-, you saying its the 'live' iso is the problem? disc is suggesting it could be my disc, although I checked for defaults before install and came back clean [11:51] I thought of trying unetbootin on usb this time instaed of disc [11:51] livingdaylight: coudl be both [11:51] livingdaylight: i use alternate iso always [11:51] Peace-, ok? why? [11:52] !alternate [11:52] The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. Look for the alternate checkbox on the Kubuntu download page - See also !minimal [11:53] Im having truble with the package manager in 10.10. When i try and check for updates [11:53] i get "Cannot get the exclusive lock on the packaging backend. [11:53] Please close any other legacy packaging tools that may be open" [11:53] i'm sure live supports lenovo r60e, but will try alternate; means dl another iso [11:54] but i dont have anything else open using it? [11:57] does the package manager use a different proxy than rekonq? [12:08] can anyone here help with configuring kpackage manager to use a http proxy? the proxy setting is configured in proxy settings and the internet works okay in rekonq === royal_king is now known as Ravio [12:15] export http_proxy=http://your_proxy:proxy_port [12:15] then run kpackage from the same console. [12:15] and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96802 may contain some tips also [12:16] apt-conf seems to have some support: Acquire::http::Proxy "http://MYDOMAIN\MYNAME:MYPASS@MY.PROXY.COM:MYPORT" [12:16] (modify /etc/apt/apt.conf) [12:16] is it possible to use a .pac script as this is required by my network [12:17] (apt.conf editing would be afaik the proper solution if no gui tool exists: http://linux.die.net/man/5/apt.conf ) [12:17] i dont even want to know what is a .pac script, sorry :) [12:20] do you know how to find what the name of my domain is? [12:23] i do know that IP can sometimes be reversed to a human readable address that contain domain name [12:24] but afaik (windows) network can use any domain name it pleases [12:24] then samba client might be able to do the trick [12:25] hm, seems like foo.bar.com has domains com that has subdomain bar, that has subdomain foo [12:25] what makes sense .. [12:29] is Nepomuk enabled by default in Kubuntu? [12:30] katsrc: yes i think it is === real_ate__ is now known as real_ate === root is now known as Guest1615 [12:46] susundberg: thanks [12:46] what was the command for checking ubuntu/kubuntu version in cli? [12:54] katsrc: mmm uname -a ? [12:54] !version [12:54] To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy » [12:55] tsimpson: thank you [12:55] Peace-: thanks, but it was looking this other one uname is for kernel info [12:55] katsrc: yes sorry reading bad :) [12:56] does anyone know what is the recommended minimum system requirement for Kubuntu 10.10? [12:56] it's running a bit sluggish on my machine, i'm wondering if my pc is just aging [13:00] katsrc: mmm ram ^? [13:00] katsrc: video card^? [13:00] Pentium 4 HT - multi-threading (64bit), 2GB RAM, 250 MB Nvidia 8600 GT [13:00] i have 2 core 1 gig of ram and intel 128mb of video card [13:00] it's pretty fast [13:00] i'm also running 64bit Kubuntu [13:00] guess is the video driver? [13:01] it's proprietary from Kubuntu repos [13:01] i've turned off Desktop Effects too [13:03] Check ctrl + esc for what is taking your CPU / Mem [13:03] (for example firefox easily takes 200M) [13:05] Peace-, hi, using alternate now. at the partition section, do I need to assign any space for bootloader? or grub? to recognize and add the windows partition? [13:07] livingdaylight: no [13:07] it iwll do automatically all the stuff you need only to create partitions [13:09] swap, root and home? [13:09] yep [13:09] great [13:16] susundberg: xorg usually takes 30% [13:16] quassel is a memory hog, as is firefox [13:17] katsrc: use konversation [13:17] katsrc: maybe there is even a widget [13:17] i don't remember well [13:17] Its no help if the problem is not memory but cpu time [13:17] yeah, but i've gotten use to some of nice features of Quassel [13:17] hii [13:18] i was wondering of it's those new desktop search services in the background that comes with KDE [13:18] whether disabling them would increase performance [13:19] katsrc: what specs dose you computer have? [13:20] james147: Pentium 4 HT - multi-threading (64bit), 2GB RAM, 250 MB Nvidia 8600 GT [13:20] using Kubuntu 64bit 10.10 [13:20] kubuntu shoulnt lag with that ^^ :S what version of kubuntu and kde do you have? [13:20] ^^ and kde version? [13:20] james147: latest [13:21] 4.6.1 [13:21] hmm, i would sugest trying a clean profile (by creating and testing a new user) ^^ to rule out any config errors [13:21] i was thinking of using Liquorix kernel [13:22] it gave me some performance boost when i was on Debian with KDE [13:22] katsrc: test a clean profile first, its easier and I think more likly to fix your problem [13:22] clean profile? [13:22] katsrc: create a new user and login with them, see if you suffer the same lag... [13:22] remove ~/.kde? [13:23] katsrc: creating a new user is generally better, and easier to revert [13:23] can i just move ~/.kde and re-login? [13:23] ok, let me try that then [13:24] brb [13:35] Hello [13:36] please sombody help me to figured it out for the VPN connection using KNetworkManager on Kubuntu 10.10 === root is now known as faLUCE [13:37] I have installed VPNC,PPTP,OpenVPN plugins and when I try to connect using VPNC i get the messsage Connected but at the same time i always loose my wireless connection... [13:41] Hiyas all [13:42] alternate cd install appears to take a lot longer than live cd? [13:48] livingdaylight, yes it does , because it looks more closely/scans your HW etc [13:48] james147: it does seem like a profile issue [13:48] after i login, i have to wait a while until i hear system sounds and can launch anything [13:48] BluesKaj, that's a good thing? the HW sanning part is at the beginning though? The dl of files seems to take so long too [13:49] but on the newly created test user it logs in instantly and i'm able to launch applications [13:50] livingdaylight, . yesh , it downloads a lot of the the files that would otherwise be on the live-cd , hence the the slower install [13:50] yesh=yes.. and I haven't been drinking :) [13:51] katsrc: well, that give you two option, start again from scratch and rebuild the configs, or try tto findthe one thats at fault [13:53] james147: so just remove ~/.kde then [13:53] katsrc: rename ^^ then you can restore anything that you didnt mean to deleate [13:54] james147: good point [13:54] thanks for you help! [14:01] BluesKaj, i thought that was your Sean Connery accent ;) [14:02] heh, livingdaylight ...maybe tha's his secret , a few scotches in the morning to get moving :) [14:03] BluesKaj, oh, yesh... [14:03] thats fun [14:04] livingdaylight, the alternate install takes about an hr , iirc [14:04] BluesKaj, its done now, on to updates [14:04] ok good [14:05] my 7yr old compaq needs the alternate install , the live-cd doesn't get past plymouth [14:09] my lenovo r60e is about that old now [14:09] seem to be wireless issues [14:10] its seeing my wireless router and apparently configuring but not connecting? Do I need to remove network cable? [14:11] strange tho, the nvidia 7600gt graphics an older card uses the newer nvidia driver than he 8400gs on this machine [14:12] livingdaylight, , i guess you have to make a choice , ethernet or wifi [14:17] livingdaylight, I'm guessing it's alaptop, so wifi would be it , and yes, disconnect hte ethernet cable [14:19] BluesKaj, hah, wireless working. Had to go into settings andput in passphrase again. Doing it first time from NM didn't seem to hold it [14:19] BluesKaj, Nish... [14:21] livingdaylight, good, NM is a bit flaky at first , but it should hold once you have your encrypt and pw settings setup [14:21] do people replace it with wicd? [14:22] next challenge tweak and make kubuntu look awesome [14:22] livingdaylight: thats not a challenge :D [14:23] james147, I'm new to kde, so, maybe just a little. What are the options? I heard about Lancelot? [14:24] livingdaylight: well, there are options to configure just about everything :) [14:24] lancelot is a alternitive menu, though i tend to find krunner to be more convient (alt+f2) [14:24] james147, I suppose getting the multimedia codecs out of the way is a priority [14:25] livingdaylight: "sudo apt-get install kbuntu-restricted-extras" [14:25] kubuntu ^^ [14:25] which versions of flash and java does that install, do you know off hand? [14:25] coz I don't want ice-tea and that [14:26] livingdaylight: it will install the openjdk ^^ you will have to enable the partener repos to get at the closed version (though i havnt knoticed a difference) [14:26] and as far as i know it downloads the offical flash version [14:26] yea, gonna do 'em one by one [14:27] livingdaylight: although, best ioption is to install it and then replace the parts you dont want [14:28] so when does firefox4 come to kubuntu repos? [14:28] can I do all that from kpackagekit? [14:30] package kit jsut crashed [14:31] livingdaylight: you can [14:32] * james147 doubts firefox4 will be in mavericks repos ^^ might be in nattys though [14:32] yeah, natty seems to have 4 [14:33] pand livingdaylight for codecs etc, like libdvdcss2 , install the medibuntu repos http://www.medibuntu.org/repository.php [14:33] pand=and [14:33] thanks [14:33] well libdvedcss2 isn't a codec as such but... [14:37] is Muon a popular Package manager/frontend? [14:38] its the more advanced version of kpackagekit ^^ less well known [14:38] livingdaylight, yes I like it ..I use it as reference for proper app names and installed packages [14:38] ^^ i say that... its not really related to kpackagekit [14:38] sounds like a must-have [14:38] its a more advanced package manager then kpackagekit ^^ [14:39] james147, livingdaylight , been usin Muon for a while now ..it works well if you need a package manager , very stable. [14:44] james147: do you have any idea why qt engine would break on Thunderbird? [14:45] katsrc: just thunderbird or other gtk apps as well? [14:45] james147: firefox seems ok [14:45] let me check GIMP [14:45] * james147 notes firefox has its own intergrations attempts ^^ [14:46] oh, ok so all GTK applications except Firefox broke [14:46] katsrc: have you configured the gtk style in system settings? [14:47] yes [14:47] james147: was i suppose to move ~/.kdesrc as well? [14:47] katsrc: do you ahve both .gtkrc-2.0 and .gtkrc-2.0-kde4 ? [14:47] katsrc: only if your having problem still [14:48] .gtkrc-2.0-kde4 is there [14:48] but not .gtkrc-2.0 [14:48] i think i should move that as well, it's was unchanged since the previous profile [14:49] katsrc: create a symlink to it with the name .gtkrc-2.0 (cd && ln -s .gtkrc-2.0 .gtkrc-2.0-kde4) [14:49] james147: i bet ff 4 will be in maverick, an earlier too :) [14:49] james147: note that even hardy has 3.6.15 , same as maverick nowadays.. [14:49] claydoh: not in the offical repos though? [14:49] yes [14:50] just not yet tho [14:50] * james147 didnt think they upgraded major versions once relesed ^^ [14:50] firefox is the recent exception [14:50] ahh [14:50] james147: it should be "ln -s .gtkrc-2.0-kde4 .gtkrc-2.0" since i'm linking to .gtkrc-2.0 from .gtkrc-2.0-kde4? [14:51] yes :) always get them the wrong way around :p [14:51] I installed medibuntu ppa, yet when I click on w32codecs or libdvdcss for e.g. I'm getting "package is virtual" returned? [14:51] no problem [14:52] james147: that did it [14:52] james147: thank you so much! [15:00] livingdaylight, try installing them separately with apt-get...medibuntu won't install all the packages unless you you update after adding the repos. [15:02] BluesKaj, i did apt-get update [15:02] getting errors [15:02] ok then sudo apt-get install lidvdcss2 32codecs [15:03] where are ppa's kept? [15:04] can't seem to see it in sources list [15:04] errors ..can you pastbin them ? [15:04] I'll have to switch to laptop, yup... brb [15:05] yeah , the package manager takes precedence over the sources.list it seems , but maker sure the parners and other sources are enabled in both [15:05] partners [15:08] greetings comrades [15:09] livingdaylight: sources.d stores some [15:09] (if i remember correctly) [15:10] * BluesKaj wonders how to sync the sources.list with the package manager [15:12] * livingdaylight wonders how to hit the ok button on the java screen [15:13] hah, tab! [15:14] BluesKaj: I think it does ^^ at least enabled/disabling the partener repos commends/uncomments that line in sources.list [15:14] BluesKaj: however, some sources are stored in sources.list.d/ ^^ which might be where the "missing" ones are [15:15] BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/xcRctY8Z maybe you can take a look at my ouput - thanks === ralsina is now known as ralsina_long_lun [15:21] james147,ok thx, livingdaylight could you paste your sources.list pls , it will tell us more [15:21] sorry, missed that - sure thing. [15:21] by the way, is it possible to make Quassel put rooms as tabs at the bottom rather than tree on side? [15:23] sources list output http://dpaste.com/524511/ [15:27] livingdaylight, sources.list looks fine [15:27] ok [15:28] I just need to remove medibuntu ppa so i dont keep getting that error on apt-get update [15:28] Do you know where I can track that ppa? [15:32] livingdaylight, I also prefer the tabs at the bottom , that's why I use konversation ...afa medibuntu is concerned it's not a real ppa , it's another repository for media etc. it's constant ...ppas are usually for testing new app versions [15:34] www.medibuntu.org , but you should be able to just disable it in the package manager sources [15:34] BluesKaj: yea, just rolling with the defaults here for time being. May have to switch to konversation too, although it pains me to remove one of the apps that doesnt start with K , one of my previous pet hates about kde and replace it with one that does. Reconq seems to be working nicely, although Iĺl probably eventually need to add Chrome as ive got hooked to that browser now, i think... [15:35] BluesKaj: looking for package manager sources in Muon [15:35] livingdaylight, settings/software sources in muon [15:37] found it. Muon is nice becaue it behaves a lot like Synaptic which Iḿ used to. [15:37] why did Konqueror get relabaled Rekonq? [15:38] livingdaylight, rekonq is ok ,but the bookmarktoolbar seems difficult to config to my likibg so I gave up on , seems like a need a more intuitave configurte system than rekonq provides [15:39] * BluesKaj has to remember to slow down ...typing skills suck [15:39] BluesKaj: i think youve just described Chrome :p simple, elegant, yet powerful. [15:39] * livingdaylight passes BluesKaj another scotch... [15:40] help to steady teh nerves [15:41] BluesKaj: not too bothered about bookmarks, as I use Diigo, but I need the diigo extension which rekonq probably doesnt have/do [15:41] livingdaylight: rekone and konqueror are two different applications [15:42] james147: thanks... did used to be one though, am I right? Then separated them to dedicate one as a file manager and other as a browser? [15:42] livingdaylight: no, konqueror is still avlive and well, but there are now two new applcations that provide konquerors functionalty, dolphin and rekonq [15:43] livingdaylight, I like chrome a lot , just wish the tab and bookmark fonts were integrted with kde fonts settings ...I'm using our plasma tv as a monitor here since it's our media server pc, and the tab and ookmark fonts are waay too small ...the webpage content is not a problem , that's very configurable. [15:45] I'm forced to use FF ...it's ok but starting to become a bit bloated [15:46] ^^ starting to? its been blaoted for ages [15:48] * james147 notes not to press ctrl+c at a password prompt... [15:48] lol [15:49] whatś the word on the street when it comes to movie player in kde. Kmplayer or Mplayer? [15:49] * james147 hopes that the next prompt will restone characters being echoed to the screen, not being able to see what yu type is hard :p [15:49] livingdaylight: kaffeine [15:50] * james147 hates mplayer ... never works well for him [15:50] james147: I knew someone would say that :p [15:51] smplayer works fine here, but only with recent mplayer snapshots [15:51] In ubuntu mplayer was the solution to all video feeds, maybe with a gnomeplayer [15:51] mplayer if or cli purists and those who still convert stuff to dvd mpeg codecs [15:51] if=is [15:52] does kaffeine handle most files? [15:52] other than smplayer it would probably be kaffeine or vlc [15:52] otherwise vlc is the the one I use [15:52] on windows I always install kmplayer but that is a different one, right? [15:52] well, still mplayer, just different interface [15:53] we do have kmplayer in the archive [15:53] livingdaylight: it does here [15:53] james147: mkvś? [15:54] livingdaylight: yup [15:54] (assuming the right codes are installed) [15:54] mencoder helped me capture video off our pvr when nothing else would work , even in windows ...the capture device driver wouldn't run on w7 [15:54] ^^ which installing kubuntu-restricted-extras seems to get [15:55] libdvdcss2 libdvdread4 [15:55] w32codecs [15:56] livingdaylight, they work together === ralsina_long_lun is now known as ralsina [16:27] konversation plays more like Xchat, it seems [16:27] just did an apt-get upgrade and see Amarok is being upgraded. Is that a misstake? I heard the old version was better than the newer one, but that was a while ago [16:29] livingdaylight, not sure about amarok , not a real fan so i don't use it much , mainly because it's always in a state of being fixed [16:32] konversation is a lot like mirc IMO ,, without the autoserver , which I do miss on occasion [16:33] my wireless is fading in and out of consciousness [16:35] livingdaylight_, which wifi chip ? [16:37] am I still here> [16:39] livingdaylight_, yes you're here [16:39] BluesKaj: 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02) [16:40] hi :) my laptop's internal microphone seems switched off, and I cant find where to switch it on.. any clue ? [16:40] Elephantman: have you made sure the capture decives arnt muted in alsamixer(run in a terminal) [16:42]