[02:00] <errordeveloper> hi
[02:00] <errordeveloper> does anyone know about issues with ath9k (w'less)
[02:00] <errordeveloper> ??
[02:14] <errordeveloper> ok.
[02:14] <errordeveloper> another quick question
[02:14] <errordeveloper> I uses lilo
[02:15] <errordeveloper> how do set default kenrnel in grub ?
[07:40] <MikeChelen> anyone know how to install fglrx driver from amd?
[07:52] <MikeChelen> nm got it going
[07:54] <MikeChelen> hope it works...
[07:56] <MikeChelen> hmm, fglrx still will not install
[08:21] <MikeChelen> at least not without errors
[08:27] <xiambax> anyone else notice unity is super buggy and so is cairo-dock
[08:27] <xiambax> could possibly be compiz related?
[08:29] <gnomefreak> xiambax: alot of the problems is due to compiz, but i would need to know what the problem is. im going for a smoke now but if you can give me more info while im gone would be great.
[08:30] <xiambax> smokebreak
[08:30] <xiambax> good call
[08:30] <xiambax> ill brb too
[08:36] <gnomefreak> im back when you are ready
[08:38] <xiambax> back
[08:38] <xiambax> So
[08:39] <xiambax> Whenever i boot into standard desktop
[08:39] <xiambax> unity
[08:40] <xiambax> and change my gtk theme to a theme using a none standard engine
[08:40] <xiambax> it crashes compiz
[08:40] <xiambax> and the whole system locks up
[08:40] <xiambax> my titlebar goes to a default colour
[08:40] <xiambax> windows stay the same
[08:41] <gnomefreak> xiambax: are you sure its not compiz causing the crash. there was/is alot of bugs on compiz crashing
[08:41] <gnomefreak> i have not tried to change the theme yet.
[08:41] <xiambax> i had to disable cairo-dock from starting at login as it was causing things to crash
[08:41] <xiambax> im pretty sure its compiz as if i do a compiz --replace it starts back up fine
[08:41] <xiambax> and then sooner or later locks up my system again
[08:41] <xiambax> if i boot to a normal gnome enviroment it works fine
[08:42] <gnomefreak> file a bug but i am fairly sure that bug was already reported
[08:47] <gnomefreak> can someone run unity and go to application icon on dock and try using the search feature, let me know if you can get it to work please
[08:55] <gnomefreak> filed a bug on my above issue
[08:58] <gnomefreak> compiz just crashed :(
[10:02] <wompydompy> Hi, after trying to install the nvidia-driver via jockey, what was not succesfull, im getting a warning when trying "apt-get -f install": break caused by pkgProblemResolver::Resolve, which might be caused by held packages
[10:02] <wompydompy> anyone who knows how to handle that?
[10:03] <proti> apt-get install nvidia-current ?
[10:04] <wompydompy> unsolved dependencies: libc6 : Hängt ab von: libc-bin (= 2.13-0ubuntu7) aber 2.13-0ubuntu8 soll installiert werden
[10:04] <wompydompy>  libc6-dev : Hängt ab von: libc6 (= 2.13-0ubuntu8) aber 2.13-0ubuntu7 soll installiert werden
[10:04] <wompydompy> libc6 and libc6-dev are marked as defect
[10:05] <yofel> wait an hour or so, seems the builds are out of sync
[10:05] <wompydompy> all right..thanks a lot
[10:06] <wompydompy> and then update & upgrade?
[10:07] <yofel> yes
[10:07] <wompydompy> yofel: thanks a lot
[10:39] <mateobur> broken package
[10:39] <mateobur>  /var/cache/apt/archives/gstreamer0.10-plugins-good_0.10.28-0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[10:39] <mateobur> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[13:41] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:42] <Gayspy> hiyas
[14:27] <Gayspy> When updatig is a "problem with mergelist" problem with repos or my system?
[15:25] <BluesKaj> I'm getting this error update-alternatives: error: alternative /etc/console-setup/vtrgb.vga for newt-palette not registered, not setting...it doesn't seem to be serious ,but I'd still like to know what's preventing the install ...any ideas?
[15:33] <yofel> BluesKaj: being worked on
[15:34] <BluesKaj> ok yofel , thanks
[15:44] <CarlFK> This is about 3 years old: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/libtheora0  1.1.1+dfsg.1-3 "  There is no chance of getting that updated, right?
[15:45] <CarlFK> or is in universe...   im fuzzy on what can be updated when
[15:46] <yofel> well, that was just synced from debian, they don't have anything newer either. You can file an update request on launchpad, if you want that in natty though you'll need a Feature Freeze Exception
[15:47] <yofel> btw, all packages have the same timeline to be updated, regardless of the component. They're just affected by the DebianImport and Feature freezes
[15:50] <Gayspy> When updatig is a "problem with mergelist" problem with repos or my system?
[15:53] <yofel> Gayspy: if it happens once it's usually an issue with apt, if it happens in succession I would blame the server
[15:54] <yofel> Gayspy: you could try to remove the files in /var/lib/apt/lists/ and try to update again
[15:55] <CarlFK> yofel: thanks. is there a pointer to the debian maintainer so I can bug them?
[15:57] <yofel> CarlFK: apt-cache showsrc libtheora0 will list the maintainer
[15:57] <CarlFK> i'll also get a current version into a PPA which will satisfy my needs.  I don't think it warrants an exception
[16:06] <rocky1> is the default graphical environment for Natty still X or is it now Wayland?
[16:08] <charlie-tca> won't be wayland
[16:16] <andrei_> hello guys
[16:16] <andrei_> I have some trubble installing Natty alpha 3 on a macbook pro 8.3(17")
[16:16] <andrei_> I am trying to install Natty on it through bootcamp, but I get this error message:
[16:17] <andrei_> ubi-language failed with exit code 141. Further information may be found in /var/log/syslog. Do you want to try running this step again before continuing? If you do not, your installation may fail entirely or may be broken.
[16:17] <andrei_> If I press try again, it gives me the same error if I press continue it just freezes, and if I press quit it brings me to a login page where the only user is other...
[16:24] <charlie-tca> !info at-spi2
[16:32] <ChrisBuchholz> How can set "power" to "off" permanently for Broadcom STA? If i dont set power to off, i get really slow connection
[16:38] <lvh> Hello.
[16:38] <lvh> Anyone know how to get stuff that's not remotely GTK (like Wing IDE) to work with the new top-level menu?
[17:09] <andrei_> hey guys
[17:10] <andrei_> about my problem with ubi-language if I press continue
[17:10] <Daekdroom> !info gir1.2-unity-3.0
[17:10] <andrei_> it goes to the live cd
[17:11] <andrei_> but the top bar is out of the screen
[17:11] <andrei_> i can see like half a 1mm of it
[17:12] <charlie-tca> which screen is that, the live desktop or the "try ubuntu" "install ubuntu" screen?
[17:12] <andrei_> the live desktop
[17:13] <andrei_> it does not go to try ubuntu after the ubi-language error 141
[17:13] <charlie-tca> oh, that one.
[17:13] <andrei_> it jumps directly to live cd
[17:13] <andrei_> if I press continue anyway
[17:13] <charlie-tca> yeah, and it can't completely work, for reasons unkown. they only thing I found to make it work it restart the cd
[17:14] <andrei_> rewrite it?
[17:14] <andrei_> then it would be a problem with how the disk is written...
[17:14] <andrei_> ill try that
[17:15] <andrei_> oh and I dont think I've mentionned i am trying to install it on macbook pro 8.3(17")
[17:15] <charlie-tca> heh, getting the error is problem. If it is disrupting other things, then it would be the same bug
[17:16] <charlie-tca> file a new bug for the ubi-language error 141, against ubiquity, and make sure to state it is a macbook pro, please
[17:16] <charlie-tca> It does need to be a new bug
[17:16] <andrei_> ok I'll do that
[17:17] <charlie-tca> and it should be done from the live desktop, using ubuntu-bug ubiquity
[17:18] <andrei_> but i cannot get into the menu at the live desktop, because I can only see like 0.5mm out of it
[17:20] <charlie-tca> Can you get there if you use "try ubuntu" and don't install?
[17:20] <charlie-tca> or, better, use Ctrl+Alt+t to get a terminal?
[17:21] <MadCarburetor> Anybody here running  the latest beta of Natty Narwhal? How stable/usable or buggy/crashy is it for everyday use?
[17:22] <andrei_> yeah the terminal does not appear
[17:22] <andrei_> only thing that I can access is the networking options
[17:23] <andrei_> if I click the upper right corner (there is a small red dot) it gives me the networking menu
[17:23] <andrei_> I have tested the keyboard there so the keyboard works
[17:23] <andrei_> I'll restart the computer and see if I can get to the try ubuntu menu
[17:24] <charlie-tca> MadCarburetor: yes, some people are running it. It works sometimes, too
[17:25] <MadCarburetor> " It works sometimes" So most of the time it's not working?
[17:25] <charlie-tca> no
[17:26] <andrei_> it works but it has its bugs
[17:26] <charlie-tca> for some people it always works, for some it works part-time
[17:27] <andrei_> ok this is interesting
[17:27] <andrei_> I just restarted the comp and booted the disk
[17:27] <charlie-tca> and?
[17:28] <andrei_> and it had an error and now it shows me Grub>
[17:28] <andrei_> GNU GRUB version 1.99~vrc1-3ubuntu2 as title
[17:29] <charlie-tca> That usually means it missed the cd for whatever reason
[17:30] <andrei_> I pressed esc and I got to a screen with the same title GNU GRUB version 1.99~vrc1-3ubuntu2, but now I have 3 choices to try to install ubuntu or to check disk for errors...
[17:31] <charlie-tca> try, I think
[17:31] <andrei_> i chose try ubuntu and now black screen
[17:31] <charlie-tca> give it a minute to come up, it usually boots slow at this point
[17:31] <andrei_> ok
[17:38] <andrei_> still black screen
[17:46] <charlie-tca> hm, that's not good
[17:46] <charlie-tca> try again?
[17:48] <andrei_> i checked the md5sum of the image I have and it does not match the one here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/alpha-3/MD5SUMS
[17:58] <smallfoot-> i want firefox 4!!! ITS OUT RELEASE FINAL TODAY!!! PUT IN REPO NOW!!
[18:00] <Daekdroom> !rules | smallfoot-
[18:01] <Daekdroom> Hm. That entry is not what I expected, but it has the link to the guidelines anyway.
[18:45] <Paranoid1> hallo alle... ich habe natty bei mir (so blöd wie ich bin) installiert und habe schnell bemerkt dass es viele bugs gibt, was ich beim reparieren kaputter pakete und installieren neuer sachen wieder in ordnung bringen wollte...danach bekam ich eine warnung (warning: cannot open ConsoleKit session: unable to open session: The permission of the setuid helper is not correct")... habe mit OK bestätigt, habe mich registriert... und kann n
[18:45] <MTecknology> !info nginx
[18:47] <Paranoid1> OMG...is this here in english?
[18:48] <Paranoid1> hello...i have downloaded a alpha version (natty) on my laptop and saw many bugs on it... so i try to repair pakages and install new things on it... after it i get a warning ("warning, cannot open consoleKit session: unable to open session: the permission of the setuid helper is not correct")...i push on the OK button and nothing happend... i cannot boot my system normaly... and dont know what to do
[18:49] <Paranoid1> can someone pls help me?
[18:52] <coz_> Paranoid1,   first thing I would do is open a terminal    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:53] <Paranoid1> i boot now from a CD
[18:53] <Paranoid1> can i also do it here??
[18:54] <coz_> Paranoid1,  well if you are on a live cd it really wouldnt amount to much since it would be set in memory and lost after you reboot
[18:55] <Paranoid1> yhym... so should i close it and boot it normaly??
[18:56] <coz_> Paranoid1,  are you eventually going to install this to a hard drive?
[18:57] <Paranoid1> no...natty is already installed on my harddrive (and all my stuff is on it)...
[18:57] <Paranoid1> i only use the cd, cause i couldnt use nothing
[18:57] <coz_> Paranoid1,  ah ok,, well then just play with the live cd,,  you can try the update thing but as you can see natty is not really ready
[18:58] <Paranoid1> ??
[18:58] <yofel> Paranoid1: you can update your natty installation on the HDD if you chroot
[18:58] <Paranoid1> whats that?
[18:58] <yofel> !chroot
[18:59] <Paranoid1> omg... my english isnt so good :(
[18:59] <yofel> Paranoid1: let's continue this in #ubuntu-de+1
[19:00] <Paranoid1> okay
[19:01] <Paranoid1> how i change the channel?
[19:01] <yofel> Paranoid1: type '/join #ubuntu-de+1' without the quotes to join
[19:14] <afv> uff
[19:16] <afv> had to shutdown and replug the battery (or wait some time with the pc off), else i had always the screen turned off when booting
[19:17] <AlanBell> hi all http://paste.ubuntu.com/583935/
[19:17] <AlanBell> I am struggling with Natty and virtualbox from a recent upgrade, then a fresh install from the dailies
[19:18] <AlanBell> when I install virtualbox guest additions X doesn't start because of an ABI mismatch
[19:19] <AlanBell> I have recompiled the modules with /etc/init.d/vboxadd setup but still get the same error http://paste.ubuntu.com/583937/
[19:20] <AlanBell> it is complaining a bit about a lack of kernel header files (although linux-headers-generic is installed) however it seems to be an xorg ABI issue rather than a kernel thing I think
[19:21] <yofel> AlanBell: that's known I think
[19:25] <micahg> have others noticed increased use of swap space while the screensaver is running?
[19:25] <yofel> AlanBell: bug 738330
[19:31] <AlanBell> bother
[19:31] <AlanBell> that looks to be properly broken and likely to stay that way until Oracle do something about it
[19:32] <yofel> AlanBell: the last comments seem to indicate that virtualbox-ose-guest-x11 seems to work
[19:32] <AlanBell> not for 3d
[19:32] <AlanBell> which they never did
[19:32] <yofel> oh right, bummer :S
[19:56] <dupondje> hiii
[19:56] <dupondje> Got a small question, want to set Thunderbird as default mail app, but only evolution seems listed in the default app list
[20:05] <IdleOne> Preferred Applications, set it to custom /usr/bin/thunderbird I believe is the correct path for the command
[20:08] <trism> hopefully should be fixed soon, it is bug 719919
[20:09] <trism> also don't think you can use IdleOne's suggestion yet because of bug 708382
[20:10] <IdleOne> trism: hm, guess I should try running natty to see what works and what doesn't :)
[20:13] <BUGabundo> bRoas
[20:41] <CubeQite> hello. april is release of ubuntu?
[20:41] <CubeQite> if so that means i only have to wait like a week and two days
[20:41] <arand> !release
[20:41] <arand> !schedule
[20:43] <CubeQite> omg NO
[20:43] <CubeQite> i can't wait a month
[20:43] <CubeQite> i have nothing to live for
[20:50] <CubeQite> i miss waiting 20 hours for fallout tactics to download from the gamespy servers. lool. well i will see you next month.
[21:42] <alfa> hi all tdei i test natty alfa
[21:43] <smallfoot-> i heard natty has new interface that sucks
[21:43] <smallfoot-> its buggy as hell, locks up all the time and totally horrible untested useless junk crap
[21:44] <bazhang> smallfoot-, this is not the channel for that
[21:44] <alfa> yes i agree whit you
[21:44] <smallfoot-> oh
[21:44] <smallfoot-> where is that channel?
[21:44] <alfa> i switchit in classic gnome desktop mod
[21:44] <bazhang> smallfoot-, not in ubuntu namespace
[21:44] <smallfoot-> oh
[21:44] <smallfoot-> well ubuntu is worse than apple cult, if you not allowed to critizie what sucks about it
[21:45] <smallfoot-> its like "dont say anything bad about ubuntu, it has no flaws, its perfect ,nothing can ever be wrong with it!! thats a feature, not a bug!"
[21:45] <IdleOne> constructive criticism is welcome. Whining and moaning about what doesn't work is not.
[21:45] <bazhang> smallfoot-, that's enough
[21:45] <smallfoot-> ya, if i ever get 11.04 natty, i will switch to gnome, or i must use fedora15
[21:45] <IdleOne> if you have the skill try helping make it better
[21:46] <alfa> how can it make better ???
[21:46] <errordeveloper> lol
[21:46] <alfa> :)
[21:46] <errordeveloper> ok, can someone tell me how to force grub menu to always appear ?
[21:46] <alfa> now i test it . and install sudo apt-get dist-upgrade :) whit new kernel :)
[21:46] <IdleOne> by testing and reporting bugs
[21:47] <alfa> ok i understend :)
[21:48] <trism> errordeveloper: I believe you need to comment out GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT in /etc/default/grub then run sudo update-grub;
[21:51] <smallfoot-> is natty still buggy or does it work fine?
[21:51] <IdleOne> it is still buggy
[21:51] <smallfoot-> oh
[21:51] <smallfoot-> its soon beta in 1 week, i hope its getting better
[21:51] <smallfoot-> the betafreeze is in 2 days, i think maybe
[21:52] <IdleOne> not sure
[21:52] <IdleOne> !schedule
[22:02] <SudoKing> are there any dev releases of .10?
[22:02] <SudoKing> or unavailable until .04 is released?
[22:02] <rww> SudoKing: assuming you mean 11.10, work doesn't start on it until 11.04 is done.
[22:04] <SudoKing> oh. I read somewhere work on 11.10 was started after they codenamed it
[22:17] <rww> nope
[22:20] <IdleOne> SudoKing: if by work you mean trying to explain what oneiric means, then yes.
[22:20] <rww> Offtopic Otter.
[22:20] <IdleOne> ornery orangutang
[22:21] <rww> orangutan
[22:22] <IdleOne> you are correct sir but I was referring to the juice that is orange and tangy
[22:22] <rww> Who loves orange soda? IdleOne loves orange suda. Is it true? Is it true?
[22:22] <rww> soda ** :(
[22:24] <IdleOne> I like it
[22:24] <IdleOne> wouldn't say love it
[22:59] <hackeron> hey, I try to do: hal-find-by-capability --capability video4linux - in maverick it showed a list of v4l devices - in natty it shows nothing - is there an equivalent command?
[23:45] <ali1234> so i couldn't get unity to work at all after upgrading from maverick. should i bug report it before i wipe and reinstall?
[23:56] <Wicked> hello all. installed 11.04 alpha3 in virtualbox and updated it...then installed guest additions....when i rebooted the vm stalls during boot and i cannot hit esc to see what it stalled on...and if i watch top on the host machine i see the vm goes from using 100% cpu during the boot...down to using 0-5% cpu....