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errordeveloperhi02:00
errordeveloperdoes anyone know about issues with ath9k (w'less)02:00
errordeveloper??02:00
errordeveloperok.02:14
errordeveloperanother quick question02:14
errordeveloperI uses lilo02:14
errordeveloperhow do set default kenrnel in grub ?02:15
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MikeChelenanyone know how to install fglrx driver from amd?07:40
MikeChelennm got it going07:52
MikeChelenhope it works...07:54
MikeChelenhmm, fglrx still will not install07:56
MikeChelenat least not without errors08:21
xiambaxanyone else notice unity is super buggy and so is cairo-dock08:27
xiambaxcould possibly be compiz related?08:27
gnomefreakxiambax: alot of the problems is due to compiz, but i would need to know what the problem is. im going for a smoke now but if you can give me more info while im gone would be great.08:29
xiambaxsmokebreak08:30
xiambaxgood call08:30
xiambaxill brb too08:30
gnomefreakim back when you are ready08:36
xiambaxback08:38
xiambaxSo08:38
xiambaxWhenever i boot into standard desktop08:39
xiambaxunity08:39
xiambaxand change my gtk theme to a theme using a none standard engine08:40
xiambaxit crashes compiz08:40
xiambaxand the whole system locks up08:40
xiambaxmy titlebar goes to a default colour08:40
xiambaxwindows stay the same08:40
gnomefreakxiambax: are you sure its not compiz causing the crash. there was/is alot of bugs on compiz crashing08:41
gnomefreaki have not tried to change the theme yet.08:41
xiambaxi had to disable cairo-dock from starting at login as it was causing things to crash08:41
xiambaxim pretty sure its compiz as if i do a compiz --replace it starts back up fine08:41
xiambaxand then sooner or later locks up my system again08:41
xiambaxif i boot to a normal gnome enviroment it works fine08:41
gnomefreakfile a bug but i am fairly sure that bug was already reported08:42
gnomefreakcan someone run unity and go to application icon on dock and try using the search feature, let me know if you can get it to work please08:47
gnomefreakfiled a bug on my above issue08:55
gnomefreakcompiz just crashed :(08:58
wompydompyHi, after trying to install the nvidia-driver via jockey, what was not succesfull, im getting a warning when trying "apt-get -f install": break caused by pkgProblemResolver::Resolve, which might be caused by held packages10:02
wompydompyanyone who knows how to handle that?10:02
protiapt-get install nvidia-current ?10:03
wompydompyunsolved dependencies: libc6 : Hängt ab von: libc-bin (= 2.13-0ubuntu7) aber 2.13-0ubuntu8 soll installiert werden10:04
wompydompy libc6-dev : Hängt ab von: libc6 (= 2.13-0ubuntu8) aber 2.13-0ubuntu7 soll installiert werden10:04
wompydompylibc6 and libc6-dev are marked as defect10:04
yofelwait an hour or so, seems the builds are out of sync10:05
wompydompyall right..thanks a lot10:05
wompydompyand then update & upgrade?10:06
yofelyes10:07
wompydompyyofel: thanks a lot10:07
mateoburbroken package10:39
mateobur /var/cache/apt/archives/gstreamer0.10-plugins-good_0.10.28-0ubuntu2_i386.deb10:39
mateoburE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)10:39
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BluesKajHiyas all13:41
Gayspyhiyas13:42
GayspyWhen updatig is a "problem with mergelist" problem with repos or my system?14:27
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BluesKajI'm getting this error update-alternatives: error: alternative /etc/console-setup/vtrgb.vga for newt-palette not registered, not setting...it doesn't seem to be serious ,but I'd still like to know what's preventing the install ...any ideas?15:25
yofelBluesKaj: being worked on15:33
BluesKajok yofel , thanks15:34
CarlFKThis is about 3 years old: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/libtheora0  1.1.1+dfsg.1-3 "  There is no chance of getting that updated, right?15:44
CarlFKor is in universe...   im fuzzy on what can be updated when15:45
yofelwell, that was just synced from debian, they don't have anything newer either. You can file an update request on launchpad, if you want that in natty though you'll need a Feature Freeze Exception15:46
yofelbtw, all packages have the same timeline to be updated, regardless of the component. They're just affected by the DebianImport and Feature freezes15:47
GayspyWhen updatig is a "problem with mergelist" problem with repos or my system?15:50
yofelGayspy: if it happens once it's usually an issue with apt, if it happens in succession I would blame the server15:53
yofelGayspy: you could try to remove the files in /var/lib/apt/lists/ and try to update again15:54
CarlFKyofel: thanks. is there a pointer to the debian maintainer so I can bug them?15:55
yofelCarlFK: apt-cache showsrc libtheora0 will list the maintainer15:57
CarlFKi'll also get a current version into a PPA which will satisfy my needs.  I don't think it warrants an exception15:57
rocky1is the default graphical environment for Natty still X or is it now Wayland?16:06
charlie-tcawon't be wayland16:08
andrei_hello guys16:16
andrei_I have some trubble installing Natty alpha 3 on a macbook pro 8.3(17")16:16
andrei_I am trying to install Natty on it through bootcamp, but I get this error message:16:16
andrei_ubi-language failed with exit code 141. Further information may be found in /var/log/syslog. Do you want to try running this step again before continuing? If you do not, your installation may fail entirely or may be broken.16:17
andrei_If I press try again, it gives me the same error if I press continue it just freezes, and if I press quit it brings me to a login page where the only user is other...16:17
charlie-tca!info at-spi216:24
ubottuPackage at-spi2 does not exist in natty16:24
ChrisBuchholzHow can set "power" to "off" permanently for Broadcom STA? If i dont set power to off, i get really slow connection16:32
lvhHello.16:38
lvhAnyone know how to get stuff that's not remotely GTK (like Wing IDE) to work with the new top-level menu?16:38
andrei_hey guys17:09
andrei_about my problem with ubi-language if I press continue17:10
Daekdroom!info gir1.2-unity-3.017:10
ubottugir1.2-unity-3.0 (source: libunity): GObject introspection data for the Unity library. In component main, is optional. Version 3.6.2-0ubuntu3 (natty), package size 7 kB, installed size 96 kB17:10
andrei_it goes to the live cd17:10
andrei_but the top bar is out of the screen17:11
andrei_i can see like half a 1mm of it17:11
charlie-tcawhich screen is that, the live desktop or the "try ubuntu" "install ubuntu" screen?17:12
andrei_the live desktop17:12
andrei_it does not go to try ubuntu after the ubi-language error 14117:13
charlie-tcaoh, that one.17:13
andrei_it jumps directly to live cd17:13
andrei_if I press continue anyway17:13
charlie-tcayeah, and it can't completely work, for reasons unkown. they only thing I found to make it work it restart the cd17:13
andrei_rewrite it?17:14
andrei_then it would be a problem with how the disk is written...17:14
andrei_ill try that17:14
andrei_oh and I dont think I've mentionned i am trying to install it on macbook pro 8.3(17")17:15
charlie-tcaheh, getting the error is problem. If it is disrupting other things, then it would be the same bug17:15
charlie-tcafile a new bug for the ubi-language error 141, against ubiquity, and make sure to state it is a macbook pro, please17:16
charlie-tcaIt does need to be a new bug17:16
andrei_ok I'll do that17:16
charlie-tcaand it should be done from the live desktop, using ubuntu-bug ubiquity17:17
andrei_but i cannot get into the menu at the live desktop, because I can only see like 0.5mm out of it17:18
charlie-tcaCan you get there if you use "try ubuntu" and don't install?17:20
charlie-tcaor, better, use Ctrl+Alt+t to get a terminal?17:20
MadCarburetorAnybody here running  the latest beta of Natty Narwhal? How stable/usable or buggy/crashy is it for everyday use?17:21
andrei_yeah the terminal does not appear17:22
andrei_only thing that I can access is the networking options17:22
andrei_if I click the upper right corner (there is a small red dot) it gives me the networking menu17:23
andrei_I have tested the keyboard there so the keyboard works17:23
andrei_I'll restart the computer and see if I can get to the try ubuntu menu17:23
charlie-tcaMadCarburetor: yes, some people are running it. It works sometimes, too17:24
MadCarburetor" It works sometimes" So most of the time it's not working?17:25
charlie-tcano17:25
andrei_it works but it has its bugs17:26
charlie-tcafor some people it always works, for some it works part-time17:26
andrei_ok this is interesting17:27
andrei_I just restarted the comp and booted the disk17:27
charlie-tcaand?17:27
andrei_and it had an error and now it shows me Grub>17:28
andrei_GNU GRUB version 1.99~vrc1-3ubuntu2 as title17:28
charlie-tcaThat usually means it missed the cd for whatever reason17:29
andrei_I pressed esc and I got to a screen with the same title GNU GRUB version 1.99~vrc1-3ubuntu2, but now I have 3 choices to try to install ubuntu or to check disk for errors...17:30
charlie-tcatry, I think17:31
andrei_i chose try ubuntu and now black screen17:31
charlie-tcagive it a minute to come up, it usually boots slow at this point17:31
andrei_ok17:31
andrei_still black screen17:38
charlie-tcahm, that's not good17:46
charlie-tcatry again?17:46
andrei_i checked the md5sum of the image I have and it does not match the one here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/alpha-3/MD5SUMS17:48
smallfoot-i want firefox 4!!! ITS OUT RELEASE FINAL TODAY!!! PUT IN REPO NOW!!17:58
Daekdroom!rules | smallfoot-18:00
ubottusmallfoot-: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines18:00
DaekdroomHm. That entry is not what I expected, but it has the link to the guidelines anyway.18:01
Paranoid1hallo alle... ich habe natty bei mir (so blöd wie ich bin) installiert und habe schnell bemerkt dass es viele bugs gibt, was ich beim reparieren kaputter pakete und installieren neuer sachen wieder in ordnung bringen wollte...danach bekam ich eine warnung (warning: cannot open ConsoleKit session: unable to open session: The permission of the setuid helper is not correct")... habe mit OK bestätigt, habe mich registriert... und kann n18:45
MTecknology!info nginx18:45
ubottunginx (source: nginx): small, but very powerful and efficient web server and mail proxy. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.53-2 (natty), package size 327 kB, installed size 900 kB18:46
Paranoid1OMG...is this here in english?18:47
Paranoid1hello...i have downloaded a alpha version (natty) on my laptop and saw many bugs on it... so i try to repair pakages and install new things on it... after it i get a warning ("warning, cannot open consoleKit session: unable to open session: the permission of the setuid helper is not correct")...i push on the OK button and nothing happend... i cannot boot my system normaly... and dont know what to do18:48
Paranoid1can someone pls help me?18:49
coz_Paranoid1,   first thing I would do is open a terminal    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade18:52
Paranoid1i boot now from a CD18:53
Paranoid1can i also do it here??18:53
coz_Paranoid1,  well if you are on a live cd it really wouldnt amount to much since it would be set in memory and lost after you reboot18:54
Paranoid1yhym... so should i close it and boot it normaly??18:55
coz_Paranoid1,  are you eventually going to install this to a hard drive?18:56
Paranoid1no...natty is already installed on my harddrive (and all my stuff is on it)...18:57
Paranoid1i only use the cd, cause i couldnt use nothing18:57
coz_Paranoid1,  ah ok,, well then just play with the live cd,,  you can try the update thing but as you can see natty is not really ready18:57
Paranoid1??18:58
yofelParanoid1: you can update your natty installation on the HDD if you chroot18:58
Paranoid1whats that?18:58
yofel!chroot18:58
ubottuA chroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot18:58
Paranoid1omg... my english isnt so good :(18:59
yofelParanoid1: let's continue this in #ubuntu-de+118:59
Paranoid1okay19:00
Paranoid1how i change the channel?19:01
yofelParanoid1: type '/join #ubuntu-de+1' without the quotes to join19:01
afvuff19:14
afvhad to shutdown and replug the battery (or wait some time with the pc off), else i had always the screen turned off when booting19:16
AlanBellhi all http://paste.ubuntu.com/583935/19:17
AlanBellI am struggling with Natty and virtualbox from a recent upgrade, then a fresh install from the dailies19:17
AlanBellwhen I install virtualbox guest additions X doesn't start because of an ABI mismatch19:18
AlanBellI have recompiled the modules with /etc/init.d/vboxadd setup but still get the same error http://paste.ubuntu.com/583937/19:19
AlanBellit is complaining a bit about a lack of kernel header files (although linux-headers-generic is installed) however it seems to be an xorg ABI issue rather than a kernel thing I think19:20
yofelAlanBell: that's known I think19:21
micahghave others noticed increased use of swap space while the screensaver is running?19:25
yofelAlanBell: bug 73833019:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 738330 in virtualbox-guest-additions (Ubuntu) "Today's Natty update means no guest additions in virtualbox" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73833019:25
AlanBellbother19:31
AlanBellthat looks to be properly broken and likely to stay that way until Oracle do something about it19:31
yofelAlanBell: the last comments seem to indicate that virtualbox-ose-guest-x11 seems to work19:32
AlanBellnot for 3d19:32
AlanBellwhich they never did19:32
yofeloh right, bummer :S19:32
dupondjehiii19:56
dupondjeGot a small question, want to set Thunderbird as default mail app, but only evolution seems listed in the default app list19:56
IdleOnePreferred Applications, set it to custom /usr/bin/thunderbird I believe is the correct path for the command20:05
trismhopefully should be fixed soon, it is bug 71991920:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 719919 in thunderbird (Ubuntu Natty) "no option for thunderbird as default email" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71991920:08
trismalso don't think you can use IdleOne's suggestion yet because of bug 70838220:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 708382 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Natty) "[regression] cannot create "custom" preferred applications" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70838220:09
IdleOnetrism: hm, guess I should try running natty to see what works and what doesn't :)20:10
BUGabundobRoas20:13
CubeQitehello. april is release of ubuntu?20:41
CubeQiteif so that means i only have to wait like a week and two days20:41
arand!release20:41
ubottuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases20:41
arand!schedule20:41
ubottuA schedule of Natty Narwhal (11.04) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule20:41
CubeQiteomg NO20:43
CubeQitei can't wait a month20:43
CubeQitei have nothing to live for20:43
CubeQitei miss waiting 20 hours for fallout tactics to download from the gamespy servers. lool. well i will see you next month.20:50
alfahi all tdei i test natty alfa21:42
smallfoot-i heard natty has new interface that sucks21:43
smallfoot-its buggy as hell, locks up all the time and totally horrible untested useless junk crap21:43
bazhangsmallfoot-, this is not the channel for that21:44
alfayes i agree whit you21:44
smallfoot-oh21:44
smallfoot-where is that channel?21:44
alfai switchit in classic gnome desktop mod21:44
bazhangsmallfoot-, not in ubuntu namespace21:44
smallfoot-oh21:44
smallfoot-well ubuntu is worse than apple cult, if you not allowed to critizie what sucks about it21:44
smallfoot-its like "dont say anything bad about ubuntu, it has no flaws, its perfect ,nothing can ever be wrong with it!! thats a feature, not a bug!"21:45
IdleOneconstructive criticism is welcome. Whining and moaning about what doesn't work is not.21:45
bazhangsmallfoot-, that's enough21:45
smallfoot-ya, if i ever get 11.04 natty, i will switch to gnome, or i must use fedora1521:45
IdleOneif you have the skill try helping make it better21:45
alfahow can it make better ???21:46
errordeveloperlol21:46
alfa:)21:46
errordeveloperok, can someone tell me how to force grub menu to always appear ?21:46
alfanow i test it . and install sudo apt-get dist-upgrade :) whit new kernel :)21:46
IdleOneby testing and reporting bugs21:46
alfaok i understend :)21:47
trismerrordeveloper: I believe you need to comment out GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT in /etc/default/grub then run sudo update-grub;21:48
smallfoot-is natty still buggy or does it work fine?21:51
IdleOneit is still buggy21:51
smallfoot-oh21:51
smallfoot-its soon beta in 1 week, i hope its getting better21:51
smallfoot-the betafreeze is in 2 days, i think maybe21:51
IdleOnenot sure21:52
IdleOne!schedule21:52
ubottuA schedule of Natty Narwhal (11.04) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule21:52
SudoKingare there any dev releases of .10?22:02
SudoKingor unavailable until .04 is released?22:02
rwwSudoKing: assuming you mean 11.10, work doesn't start on it until 11.04 is done.22:02
SudoKingoh. I read somewhere work on 11.10 was started after they codenamed it22:04
rwwnope22:17
IdleOneSudoKing: if by work you mean trying to explain what oneiric means, then yes.22:20
rwwOfftopic Otter.22:20
IdleOneornery orangutang22:20
rwworangutan22:21
IdleOneyou are correct sir but I was referring to the juice that is orange and tangy22:22
rwwWho loves orange soda? IdleOne loves orange suda. Is it true? Is it true?22:22
rwwsoda ** :(22:22
IdleOneI like it22:24
IdleOnewouldn't say love it22:24
hackeronhey, I try to do: hal-find-by-capability --capability video4linux - in maverick it showed a list of v4l devices - in natty it shows nothing - is there an equivalent command?22:59
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ali1234so i couldn't get unity to work at all after upgrading from maverick. should i bug report it before i wipe and reinstall?23:45
Wickedhello all. installed 11.04 alpha3 in virtualbox and updated it...then installed guest additions....when i rebooted the vm stalls during boot and i cannot hit esc to see what it stalled on...and if i watch top on the host machine i see the vm goes from using 100% cpu during the boot...down to using 0-5% cpu....23:56

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