halpbatman | hey hey | 05:44 |
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duanedesign | hello | 05:44 |
halpbatman | what's cracking? | 05:45 |
duanedesign | some stuff diferent day :P | 05:45 |
duanedesign | how are you halpbatman | 05:50 |
duanedesign | did you have any questions or just lurking :) | 05:50 |
halpbatman | pretty good | 05:50 |
halpbatman | got a spare usb thumb | 05:50 |
halpbatman | looking for things to do with it | 05:50 |
duanedesign | nice | 05:50 |
duanedesign | maybe a small linux install, like tiny core linux | 05:51 |
halpbatman | i'm just lurking | 05:52 |
halpbatman | yeah i got a linux on another flash already | 05:52 |
halpbatman | i just found this one lying around in my house | 05:53 |
duanedesign | always nice to find another thumb drive | 05:53 |
halpbatman | yeah cause you lose them so easily | 05:54 |
halpbatman | lol | 05:54 |
halpbatman | it's like finding money in your laundry | 05:54 |
halpbatman | it's yours to begin with | 05:54 |
duanedesign | lol | 05:54 |
halpbatman | but when you find it | 05:54 |
halpbatman | it's epic | 05:54 |
duanedesign | i have not done that in awhile | 05:54 |
halpbatman | lrn to do laundry brah | 05:54 |
duanedesign | i found a 20 in my coat one winter (had been in their since the previous winter) | 05:54 |
halpbatman | :P | 05:54 |
halpbatman | jk | 05:55 |
duanedesign | what about a ram disk | 05:55 |
halpbatman | lol my mom used to hide money in winter clothes | 05:55 |
halpbatman | so i'd randomly find bills | 05:55 |
duanedesign | guess using a thumbdrive for more ram would only be cool if your computer had limited ram | 05:56 |
halpbatman | mmm ram eh? | 05:56 |
halpbatman | isn't usb 2.0 too slow for that? | 05:56 |
duanedesign | i do not think so | 06:00 |
duanedesign | it will be slower then RAM, but faster then swap disk | 06:01 |
halpbatman | hmmm interesting. | 06:02 |
halpbatman | would this still work if my motherboard only supports upto 2gb of ram and i already have 2 gb? | 06:03 |
duanedesign | ummm | 06:06 |
duanedesign | not sure. looking to see if i can find the forum post | 06:06 |
duanedesign | about it | 06:06 |
halpbatman | that is interesting idea though... | 06:07 |
halpbatman | just worried about the frequent read/write as RAM on the life of flash drive | 06:08 |
* duanedesign nods | 06:08 | |
halpbatman | say i find a 16gb flash that's 16gb of ram | 06:08 |
duanedesign | halpbatman: looks like thread is under staff review :P I will ask my fellow staff members about this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=395435 | 06:14 |
halpbatman | cool ty | 06:14 |
halpbatman | i think for now i'm gonna use it as a file vault | 06:17 |
halpbatman | encrypt the crap out of it | 06:17 |
duanedesign | we had a beginners team member who made a cool guide on using an sd card or usb as a 'key' for an encrypted drive | 06:18 |
halpbatman | yeah i actually found that | 06:19 |
halpbatman | but for a 4gb flash it seems like a waste to use it as a key | 06:19 |
halpbatman | maybe when i find a 256mb | 06:19 |
halpbatman | lol | 06:19 |
halpbatman | it's like how you need a id card scan to access work computers along with login passwords | 06:20 |
duanedesign | right :) | 06:20 |
halpbatman | except you'll be a badass with a diy home setup | 06:20 |
duanedesign | seems like a better idea for a smaller thumbdrive | 06:21 |
halpbatman | yup | 06:21 |
halpbatman | i know for sure i have those old 256mb's lying around in my garage with old computer parts some where | 06:21 |
halpbatman | man i remember getting those and thinking "holyyyy ssssssssss*** a 256mb in my keychaiinnnn | 06:22 |
duanedesign | right | 06:27 |
duanedesign | I was totally impressed when zip drive came out | 06:28 |
halpbatman | lol | 06:28 |
halpbatman | those were too expensive for me | 06:29 |
halpbatman | good thing | 06:29 |
duanedesign | 100MB was so impressive on such a small disk | 06:29 |
duanedesign | before that I used Syquest drives | 06:29 |
duanedesign | those were really expensive | 06:29 |
halpbatman | i remember those | 06:29 |
duanedesign | they were the size of a small book :P | 06:31 |
halpbatman | lol | 06:31 |
duanedesign | halpbatman: i saw on newegg they have 64GB flash drives now | 06:35 |
duanedesign | they probablly have bigger ones... | 06:35 |
halpbatman | yeah i saw a 128gb floating around on the web | 06:36 |
halpbatman | too expensive | 06:36 |
halpbatman | i'd just buy a ssd at that point | 06:36 |
duanedesign | right | 06:36 |
duanedesign | i think the 64GB one was 100+ dollars | 06:37 |
halpbatman | lol | 06:38 |
halpbatman | meh wait few months | 06:38 |
halpbatman | it will be where 32gb s | 06:38 |
halpbatman | is | 06:38 |
halpbatman | well good night everyone | 06:49 |
halpbatman | I'm off to bed | 06:49 |
halpbatman | duanedesign: thx for your help | 06:49 |
s-fox | Hello. | 10:27 |
duanedesign | 5/ | 11:04 |
s-fox | 6/ | 11:05 |
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aztek | hello bro s-fox | 14:16 |
aztek | how r u? | 14:16 |
s-fox | I am fine thank you. How are you? | 14:16 |
aztek | am fine too | 14:20 |
aztek | am from indonesia, where do you live? | 14:21 |
Unguided | Hey everyone. Is anyone familiar with windows home server's remote access? | 15:58 |
duanedesign | compare package versions between distros http://oswatershed.org/ | 16:26 |
MrChrisDruif | How can Gentoo be so obsolete duanedesign? | 16:38 |
holstein | MrChrisDruif: obsolete or stable ;) | 16:39 |
MrChrisDruif | Obsolete holstein, that oswatershed.org keeps track of how obsolete a distro is....but I thought that Gentoo was compiling | 16:39 |
MrChrisDruif | GTG | 16:39 |
duanedesign | holstein: true | 16:47 |
holstein | hehe | 16:47 |
duanedesign | I think obsolete has some connotations that goo beyond just 'a newer version is available' | 16:49 |
duanedesign | s/goo/go | 16:49 |
yofel | well, gentoo has stable and unstable packages (latter have a tilde before the architecture), so I would assume they compared that | 16:53 |
yofel | at least it was like that last time I tried it | 16:54 |
yofel | yep, still the case http://packages.gentoo.org/ | 16:56 |
Abhijit | hello stlsaint how are you mate? | 17:35 |
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DrDetroit | hello | 20:02 |
DrDetroit | I have been using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS since about July 10 and all has been wonderful | 20:02 |
DrDetroit | recently i have accepted a couple updates | 20:02 |
DrDetroit | ever since then my machine has been running very very slowly | 20:02 |
DrDetroit | I am at a loss as to what might be causing the issue | 20:03 |
DrDetroit | I have used top and ps aux to check to see what might be using cpu or memory, but nothing stands out | 20:03 |
bioterror | what do you mean by slowly | 20:03 |
DrDetroit | yet my load average often hits 2.00 or higher | 20:03 |
DrDetroit | It may take a min or two to load irc chat | 20:03 |
DrDetroit | it might take 2 min to load firefox | 20:04 |
DrDetroit | this has never happend in all the time i have had the machine running | 20:04 |
DrDetroit | just since my last set of updates | 20:04 |
DrDetroit | currently i have regressed back 2 updates | 20:04 |
DrDetroit | to see if it is truley a kernel issue | 20:04 |
DrDetroit | or something else | 20:04 |
DrDetroit | I am just at a loss as to how to troubleshoot this | 20:05 |
bioterror | DrDetroit, sounds weird. are you sure your hard drive is okay? | 20:11 |
DrDetroit | I am pretty sure its ok bioterror | 20:12 |
DrDetroit | it was working fine before the updates | 20:12 |
DrDetroit | currently after regressing back 2 updates i have not seen the problem reappear | 20:12 |
DrDetroit | but its still early | 20:12 |
DrDetroit | hehe | 20:12 |
DrDetroit | i have used both top ps -aux and itop to try and isolate the issue | 20:12 |
DrDetroit | I dont know much about itop though | 20:13 |
DrDetroit | top and ps aux show no unusual cpu or mem usuage | 20:13 |
DrDetroit | it is very weird | 20:13 |
DrDetroit | and upsetting | 20:13 |
DrDetroit | since i have junked all my winblows machines and turned them into linux boxes | 20:13 |
DrDetroit | hehe | 20:13 |
bioterror | that's the spirit | 20:13 |
DrDetroit | i have been all linux/unix for a while now | 20:14 |
DrDetroit | i have been using linux since redhat 3.0 but new to ubuntu | 20:14 |
bioterror | wish most of new comers in here does the same | 20:14 |
bioterror | 3.0, niice, my first was redhat 5.2 ;) | 20:14 |
DrDetroit | debian was my preferred os but i have been leaning to ubuntu for my desktop because it is much nicer than debian | 20:14 |
DrDetroit | hehe i still run a redhat 7.3 here | 20:15 |
DrDetroit | and i have all the rpm'sand updates to it | 20:15 |
DrDetroit | but when it finbally craps out i will change it to something else | 20:15 |
DrDetroit | its been running since 02 without a hitch | 20:15 |
DrDetroit | so why turn it off | 20:15 |
DrDetroit | any ideas on how to try to troubleshoot this once i move back to the most current updated kernels i have? | 20:16 |
bdfhjk | Hi all! | 20:17 |
bdfhjk | I recently published my new project | 20:17 |
DrDetroit | hi | 20:17 |
bdfhjk | and I need help | 20:17 |
bdfhjk | please look lp:740453 | 20:17 |
bdfhjk | The idea of bug is that when I try to run new process | 20:18 |
bdfhjk | by QThread | 20:18 |
bdfhjk | program crashed | 20:18 |
DrDetroit | I am a newbie to ubuntu so I won't be any good to you | 20:19 |
DrDetroit | hehe | 20:19 |
head_victim | bug 740453 | 20:19 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 740453 in as "Program crashes after the second approach of compile" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/740453 | 20:19 |
bdfhjk | yes | 20:19 |
head_victim | sorry just getting a link so I can have a look and see if I'm any good to you | 20:19 |
head_victim | It has the word compile in it so it's not looking like I'll be much use, hold on though just reading | 20:20 |
head_victim | bdfhjk: that bug report is really empty, you should add LOTS more detail | 20:20 |
bdfhjk | The problems lay in it | 20:21 |
bdfhjk | that I don't know what can add more | 20:21 |
head_victim | Well I wouldn't even know how to replicate. I would start by adding in the steps you took and where it went wrong. | 20:21 |
bdfhjk | ok | 20:21 |
head_victim | That way we can at least test to see if it is reproducible or an issue with your local setup | 20:21 |
head_victim | I am not an expert on bugs though so someone else might be able to give you a hand or I'd suggest asking for advice in #ubuntu-bugs | 20:22 |
DrDetroit | bioterror 30 min no issues using older kernel | 20:23 |
bdfhjk | ok | 20:23 |
bdfhjk | I added more info | 20:23 |
DrDetroit | too strange | 20:23 |
hggdh | bdfhjk, head_victim: a correction -- #ubuntu-bugs deals with bugs in Ubuntu. This is not one... this is an issue on programming | 20:31 |
head_victim | bdfhjk: Ah it's not even in a PPA for installation? Makes it hard to troubleshoot if it's hard to install | 20:31 |
bdfhjk | Hm... | 20:31 |
head_victim | hggdh: yeah sorry I didn't realise it wasn't a Ubuntu program before offering the advice :/ | 20:31 |
hggdh | head_victim, no problem. | 20:32 |
bdfhjk | it wasn't yet | 20:32 |
bdfhjk | :-) | 20:32 |
bdfhjk | What I can release it in PPA? | 20:32 |
bdfhjk | I can simply do that by checkinstall? | 20:32 |
hggdh | bdfhjk, as I said, this is a problem with programming; anyway, it is very difficult to even try to understand the issue if there is no deployable binaries, and no stacktrace | 20:33 |
bdfhjk | I know | 20:34 |
bdfhjk | but I can publish binaries | 20:34 |
bdfhjk | because of internal error in launchpad | 20:34 |
bdfhjk | when I try to do it | 20:34 |
hggdh | bdfhjk, now another point -- the bug you opened is a bug against *your* project... which means the project's developers will lok at it... which means *YOU* ;-) | 20:34 |
bdfhjk | I need advice | 20:35 |
DrDetroit | hehe me too | 20:35 |
* DrDetroit giggles | 20:35 | |
hggdh | bdfhjk, some more points: (1) ubuntu-beginners is most probably not the best channel for that, this is a channel for _beginners_ -- who, usually, do not programm | 20:36 |
hggdh | bdfhjk, (2) even if by luck you were to hit someone here, you gave *absolutely* NO data | 20:37 |
bdfhjk | I feel a little lost | 20:37 |
hggdh | "my programme crashes" is not enough. We would need source, makefiles, stacktrace | 20:37 |
bdfhjk | What I should do ? | 20:37 |
bdfhjk | There is a source in trunk | 20:38 |
bdfhjk | ok | 20:38 |
bdfhjk | So I prepare that all | 20:38 |
bdfhjk | sorry | 20:38 |
bdfhjk | I am newbie in team programming | 20:38 |
hggdh | bdfhjk, how much have you programmed? | 20:38 |
bdfhjk | about 10 years | 20:39 |
bdfhjk | but I never used the stacktrace | 20:39 |
bdfhjk | bazaar | 20:39 |
bdfhjk | makefiles | 20:39 |
bdfhjk | etc. | 20:39 |
bdfhjk | Now I started contributing to ubuntu | 20:40 |
bdfhjk | to learn them all | 20:40 |
hggdh | bdfhjk, what`language is this programme of yours? | 20:40 |
bdfhjk | c++ | 20:40 |
hggdh | bdfhjk, and how much have you programmed in C++? | 20:40 |
bdfhjk | in c++ about ~5 years | 20:41 |
bdfhjk | before in python | 20:41 |
bdfhjk | sorry | 20:41 |
bdfhjk | pascal | 20:41 |
bdfhjk | :-) | 20:41 |
hggdh | heh | 20:41 |
bdfhjk | now I also program in python | 20:41 |
bdfhjk | but | 20:41 |
bdfhjk | I don't say that I am skilled | 20:42 |
bdfhjk | I am still learning | 20:42 |
bdfhjk | And this is my second program with uses threads | 20:42 |
hggdh | now, when a program crashes, usually you get error messages; if you have compiled it with debug set, you should have a bit more of data | 20:42 |
bdfhjk | I do all with the documentations | 20:42 |
hggdh | so one option is do run it under gdb | 20:42 |
bdfhjk | ok | 20:43 |
bdfhjk | I improve raport | 20:43 |
bdfhjk | but | 20:43 |
bdfhjk | so I must include | 20:44 |
bdfhjk | stacktrace | 20:44 |
bdfhjk | log from gdb | 20:44 |
hggdh | bdfhjk, oh, you were the one to add the -w to apport | 20:44 |
bdfhjk | but I can't use apport | 20:44 |
bdfhjk | It not working in my computer | 20:44 |
hggdh | no, because this is not an ubuntu package | 20:44 |
bdfhjk | Not that | 20:45 |
bdfhjk | apport not working at all | 20:45 |
bdfhjk | it freeze when I tried to use it | 20:45 |
hggdh | bdfhjk, when you ask for help on this issue, yes, you have to have stacktrace, buildable sources, the whole nine yards | 20:45 |
bdfhjk | for antoher, ubuntu pckages | 20:45 |
hggdh | bdfhjk, apport will *NOT* work for your issue | 20:46 |
bdfhjk | ok | 20:46 |
bdfhjk | What is the best way to generate makefile? | 20:46 |
hggdh | no matter what else. Apport will not work for Ubuntu packages... | 20:46 |
bdfhjk | I using QTCreator | 20:46 |
hggdh | heh | 20:47 |
yofel | hm, how did you crash it? | 20:47 |
hggdh | now you reached my limit, I am not a QT programmer | 20:47 |
yofel | I did manage to compile it, but without steps to crash it we can't help ;) | 20:47 |
hggdh | oh saint yofel comes to the rescue :-) | 20:47 |
head_victim | It's like a tag team in here :) | 20:47 |
* head_victim barracks from the sidelines | 20:48 | |
yofel | well, not that I know much about Qt, but I did a bit basic qt stuff in the past | 20:48 |
bdfhjk | To crash my program | 20:48 |
bdfhjk | click on 'education' | 20:48 |
bdfhjk | get first task | 20:48 |
bdfhjk | start it | 20:48 |
bdfhjk | send any file | 20:48 |
bdfhjk | if you do this one time it should work | 20:49 |
bdfhjk | but if you do this second | 20:49 |
bdfhjk | It will crash | 20:49 |
bdfhjk | This is a tester for .cpp programs | 20:49 |
yofel | bdfhjk: no 'education' to see here http://yofel.dyndns.org/pics/ext/as.png | 20:50 |
bdfhjk | sorry | 20:50 |
bdfhjk | school | 20:51 |
bdfhjk | Thanks for help You all | 20:51 |
bdfhjk | :-) | 20:51 |
bdfhjk | I don't know how to solve it | 20:51 |
bdfhjk | It looks like a newbie error | 20:52 |
bdfhjk | yofel: Do You see this issue? | 20:54 |
yofel | let me first write a helloworld that complies to your rules :P | 20:54 |
bdfhjk | ok :-) | 20:54 |
yofel | heh, first bug: the ok message is: <font color="green">Accepted</font> | 20:56 |
bdfhjk | I forgot about this :-) | 20:57 |
bdfhjk | Try solve another | 20:57 |
bdfhjk | or the same | 20:58 |
yofel | hm... | 21:00 |
AJH101 | hi i downloaded and installed google earth but it wont launch. any ideas? | 21:00 |
head_victim | AJH101: does it give you any errors? | 21:01 |
AJH101 | nothing at all | 21:01 |
head_victim | I'd suggest running it from the terminal and seeing what the output is | 21:01 |
AJH101 | ok i can cut and paste (!) what command please? | 21:02 |
yofel | bdfhjk: once I solved the first task, it always tells me that it accepted it, regardless of the file I give it | 21:02 |
bdfhjk | yofel: Also if You close it and try to solve another? | 21:03 |
yofel | no, then it works, but I can't get it to crash yet | 21:03 |
head_victim | AJH101: actually, which method did you use to install it? I found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth which might be helpful | 21:03 |
bdfhjk | yofel: hm... | 21:03 |
bdfhjk | My computer is strange... | 21:04 |
bdfhjk | So you can do more than one solve (file send), and it not crash? | 21:04 |
yofel | bdfhjk: I can send as many files as I want, If they're not cpp files I get a ton of compile errors to stderr but it doesn't crash | 21:06 |
AJH101 | head_victim: eureka! thanks very much | 21:08 |
head_victim | AJH101: glad I could help :) | 21:08 |
head_victim | I wish I knew that USB floppy drives were full of fail before I paid 12 dollars for this one :/ | 21:10 |
bioterror | floppy drives?! | 21:10 |
head_victim | (I must admit though, was a nice bargain at 99cents plus postage) | 21:10 |
bioterror | 1980's called me and said that head_victim should return their piece of techology back | 21:10 |
head_victim | Yeah I came across some old ones from my Uni days that have some assignments and stuff on them I want to assimilate into my storage | 21:10 |
head_victim | I figured it would be easier to use a USB floppy drive instead of trying to install an internal one | 21:11 |
bioterror | I hope you have nice 256 color gif files of Pamela Anderson and some other playboy models on those disks | 21:11 |
head_victim | No actually more presentations for my cognitive neuroscience assignments :/ | 21:12 |
head_victim | Really interesting if you want to know about research into visual illusions from 10 years ago. | 21:12 |
bdfhjk | yofel: Please look one more at bug 740453, I added backtrace | 21:12 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 740453 in as "Program crashes after the second approach of compile" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/740453 | 21:12 |
head_victim | OHHHHHHH I got it to work. I'm awesome and stuff. I love google | 21:12 |
bioterror | head_victim, trust me, I have done some real research about visual illusions ;) | 21:13 |
bdfhjk | yofel: mayby You have any idea, with is the cause of this bug in my computer | 21:14 |
head_victim | bioterror: as have I..... I was looking at stabilising images on the retina so I could super impose small eye movements to try and determine what type of small movement caused particular types of illusions so that I could try and break down why the illusions occurred. | 21:14 |
yofel | bdfhjk: probably a thread issue, but I don't know enough to help here I fear :/ | 21:24 |
tdn | Hi, can someone try to reproduce bug 731340 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/731340)? Or tell me if there is anything more I can do in order to help isolate the cause of this bug? | 21:24 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 731340 in linux "LUKS is extremely slow on amd64 builds but not on i386" [Undecided,New] | 21:24 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 731340 in linux "LUKS is extremely slow on amd64 builds but not on i386" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/731340 | 21:24 |
bdfhjk | yofel: ok | 21:24 |
bdfhjk | yofel: Thanks for checking | 21:25 |
bdfhjk | :-) | 21:25 |
yofel | np. Btw. there's no sense in having the Makefiles in bzr. I still had to run qmake first to get something that builds | 21:26 |
bdfhjk | qmake? | 21:26 |
bdfhjk | so You compiled project by QMake? | 21:26 |
yofel | well, qmake as.pro && make | 21:27 |
maheanuu | Hello, I am having a problem, I minimize a folder and a page but I cannot get it to maximize when I click on the icon I am using Ubuntu 10.10 | 21:27 |
yofel | I got make errors with just make | 21:27 |
bdfhjk | I always used QTCreator to compile | 21:28 |
bdfhjk | :-) | 21:28 |
bdfhjk | How prepare the package? | 21:28 |
yofel | errr... I have no experience packaging something that uses qmake, it's not exactly firendly for that :S | 21:30 |
bdfhjk | :-) | 21:30 |
bdfhjk | so You are the first people | 21:31 |
bdfhjk | 'person | 21:31 |
bdfhjk | who see this project | 21:32 |
bdfhjk | what do You think about it | 21:32 |
bdfhjk | What You will change in it? | 21:32 |
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yofel | bdfhjk: does it remember if you passed a test? if yes it would be nice if it would tell you so. Also, once you have passed a test it shouldn't Accept files with random data as valid program sources (or maybe disable the button?) | 21:36 |
yofel | stopping the counter at the top once you have a correct program would also be an idea | 21:36 |
bdfhjk | Yes, I must do it | 21:37 |
bdfhjk | Do you think this project have chance to be included in ubuntu repository? | 21:37 |
yofel | ah, and the instructions for 'loop' aren't clear: "The last line should be empty." - is that a complete new line? Here it accepted it only when the last line was terminated with \n, not with a completely empty line printed | 21:38 |
bdfhjk | hm... | 21:38 |
bdfhjk | I always think, that is the same :-) | 21:38 |
bdfhjk | In the future | 21:39 |
bdfhjk | I plan to remove white chars from end of file before validate | 21:39 |
yofel | well, once it works right, I think some poeple might find it useful. You can work together with the MOTU team to get it into the archive in that case. Just file a packaging request at that time | 21:40 |
bdfhjk | ok | 21:44 |
bdfhjk | So I back to work | 21:44 |
bdfhjk | Thanks for all one more :-) | 21:44 |
head_victim | Anyone have any good ideas on how to troubleshoot keyboard/mouse input locking up? | 22:15 |
jhanafrog | just the basics, different port(s) or different keyboard | 22:17 |
head_victim | jhanafrog: yeah all tried :/ I'm hoping it's the KVM so I can swap that out and it shuold all work again but until I get another kvm no real way of testing it without large dramas | 22:19 |
head_victim | I was hoping there was some magical monitoring program I didn't know about :P | 22:19 |
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