[01:58] <fernandofat> hi there
[01:59] <fernandofat> I have a question regarding scaling up resources like memory on UEC vm's
[02:02] <fernandofat> how does this work?
[02:15] <smoser> in UEC there is no way to scale memory up
[02:15] <smoser> general idea of "cloud" is horizontal scaling
[02:16] <flaccid> well different instance types can have different amounts of memory
[02:16] <flaccid> you can vertical scale mem and cpu
[02:17] <smoser> right.. i was thinking that the quesiton was regarding an existing (running) instance
[02:17] <smoser> ie, hotplug memory
[02:17] <flaccid> that would be nice :)
[02:20] <fernandofat> okay, so horizontal scaling would be creating a copy of the running vm and they would work as one?
[02:20] <fernandofat> smoser, it is regarding an exising instance
[02:21] <flaccid> depends what you are serving - if its scalable e.g. an application server behind a frontend lb
[02:21] <fernandofat> a squid proxy server for example
[02:22] <flaccid> multiple backend proxies can work like that
[02:25] <fernandofat> is it correct what I said? about two virtual machines working as one? regarding horizontal scalability
[02:25] <flaccid> no
[02:25] <flaccid> two or more separate instances
[02:30] <fernandofat> so for scaling up what gets replicated are the instances
[02:31] <flaccid> in a general sense, yes
[02:31] <fernandofat> nice
[02:38] <erichammond> It's not quite hotplug (requires reboot) but on EC2 you can scale up and down a single instance: http://alestic.com/2011/02/ec2-change-type
[02:38] <erichammond> Don't know about UEC.
[02:44] <fernandofat> where can I find some practical information on private cloud/UEC? Like what I can and what I can not do with this technology?
[02:44] <flaccid> see the topic
[02:44] <flaccid> and euca docs
[02:45] <smoser> UEC does not provide ebs root, and somewhat as a result, does not allow StopInstance
[02:52] <fernandofat> ok, thanks for the answers. I'll check out the euca docs, I already saw the Cloud Portal docs.
[05:23] <koolhead11> hi all
[08:03] <kim0> Morning o/
[10:48] <rwat> Hi cloud people - playing with my first cloud setup and failing to get an image running. What's the secret of how to get a emi when you upload an image bundle?
[10:51] <koolhead17> rwat, what is the cloud controller?
[10:53] <rwat> koolhead17: I'm using eucalyptus-cc 2.0.1 on natty, if that's what you mean
[10:55] <koolhead17> rwat, http://cssoss.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/eucabookv2-0.pdf   see if this helps.
[10:56] <koolhead17> kim0, there
[10:56] <kim0> here
[10:56] <koolhead17> can we change topic and put this book link there?
[10:56] <kim0> Yeah why not :)
[10:56] <kim0> let me shorten it though
[10:57] <rwat> yeah that looks useful
[10:57] <koolhead17> yeah sure
[10:57]  * koolhead17 thinks of updating it 4 natty soon.
[10:59] <rwat> when I try to activate an image from the store I just get "Bad request signature"
[10:59] <rwat> no indication of what bit of the cloud thinks the request has a bad signature
[11:00] <koolhead17> rwat, i would suggest look at the document and see if you have followed it step by step
[11:01] <koolhead17> kim0, cool!! :D
[11:04] <rwat> is it only NCs that need bridged networking?
[11:14] <rwat> for testing purposes, is it compulsory to have the CC be the IP gateway for all the other servers?
[11:17] <kim0> rwat: that's the supported networking mode .. so pretty much yes
[11:23] <rwat> kim0: ok I'll give that a go
[11:24] <rwat> in natty what is the purpose of eucalyptus-network ?
[11:26] <rwat> in the book it seems to refer to 192.168.20.0/24 in the text but 192.168.10.0/24 in the code examples - are these really two separate networks or a typo?
[11:27] <koolhead17> a typo
[11:36] <rwat> also confusing: a local network with the CC as a gateway would seem to imply some kind of NAT setup, but there's no iptables config mentioned in the book
[12:32] <rwat> ok I think my networking is now compliant with my interpretation of the manual, but I've still got a bunch of issues
[12:32] <rwat> all the commands seem to work
[12:32] <rwat> I successfully uploaded a kernel bundle
[12:33] <rwat> (this was for the standard fedora image)
[12:33] <rwat> I can see it if I ask euca-describe-images
[12:34] <rwat> uploaded ramdisk but didn't return id and isn't visible via euca2ools
[12:34] <rwat> can't connect hybridfox - it just gives me a blank error
[12:35] <rwat> can't run an image from the store "Bad request signature"
[12:35] <rwat> wondering if thesee are related and ring any bells with people
[13:42] <koolhead17> kim0,
[13:59] <kim0> o/
[14:09] <koolhead17> kim0, seems like i have to spend nyt in office for the cloud day
[14:09] <koolhead17> kirkland, hey
[14:09] <kirkland> koolhead17: hi
[14:37] <kim0> koolhead17: can't you make it from home ?
[14:37] <koolhead17> kim0, no internet yet. just shifted to new place!!
[14:38] <kim0> ah
[14:38] <kim0> I hope it's gonna be enough fun to offset the pain :)
[14:46] <koolhead17> pain is worthy enough to be taken
[14:46] <koolhead17> :d
[14:48] <kim0> hehe
[18:53] <mathiaz> smoser: hi!
[18:53] <mathiaz> smoser: is it possible to change the name of the default user for EC2 AMI (currently ubuntu) via cloud-init?
[19:08] <smoser> mathiaz, no, not really.
[20:39] <smoser> mathiaz, you can open a bug