[02:37] <nigelb> mornin
[05:52] <duanedesign> /1/4
[05:54] <nigelb> duanedesign: 0.25 :P
[05:56] <duanedesign> :)
[05:56] <duanedesign> I am sooooo bad about that
[05:56] <nigelb> yeah, I wrose
[05:56] <duanedesign> i do that at least twice a day
[05:56] <duanedesign> or
[05:56] <nigelb> I once interrupted a cc or dmb meeting
[05:56] <duanedesign> .33
[05:56] <duanedesign> haha
[05:56] <nigelb> I genearlly get g33 because I forget to press ctrl + g
[05:57] <duanedesign> sorry i dropped out of our conversatipon yesterday
[05:58] <duanedesign> i had a problem with a patch submitted by a project contributor. Then i also had another dev FG mentee wanting a merge proposal done :P
[05:58] <duanedesign> we are getting a bunch of people interested in develplop
[05:59] <duanedesign> ment. Really need to get better organized on our processes for the Dev FG in Beginners Team
[06:00] <duanedesign> I think that could help us handle more people, easier
[07:01] <duanedesign> nigelb: you know who jsjgruber is?
[08:03] <kim0> Morning o/
[08:03] <nigelb> duanedesign: nope
[08:04] <nigelb> hola kim0 ::)
[08:05] <kim0> nigelb: hey man  :)
[08:07] <duanedesign> nigelb: kk. was just testing a bug fix proposed for Lernid
[08:08] <duanedesign> brb, reboot
[08:14] <kim0> Daviey: shall we edit your session to be called puppet ?
[08:14] <kim0> nigelb: say that here :)
[08:14] <nigelb> kim0: I guess Daviey's mind needs some make up :P
[08:14] <nigelb> (still)
[08:14] <nigelb> kim0: :D
[08:14] <kim0> hehe lol .. yeah
[08:14] <kim0> I think he's going with puppet
[08:14] <kim0> but I guess he's not awake yet
[08:14] <kim0> nigelb: He's all yours once he's up :D
[08:15] <nigelb> 8:15 might be too early for the kind of bed times we all maintain :P
[08:15] <kim0> hehe :)
[08:16] <kim0> I've been planning on waking up at 6:00 for about a year now .. still not able to pull that off
[08:16] <nigelb> I've given up on anthing before 7.
[08:17] <nigelb> Can't sleep at 2 and wake before 7, no point.
[08:17] <nigelb> kim0: Calender updated (http://people.ubuntu.com/~nhandler/classroom.html)
[08:17] <kim0> woohoo :)
[08:21] <dholbach> good morning
[08:22] <kim0> dholbach: morning
[08:24] <dholbach> hey kim0
[08:24] <kim0> hey :0
[08:24] <kim0> oh little short on the shift key :)
[08:24] <duanedesign> this branch fixes lernid so it runs on Natty. FWIW lp:~jsjgruber/lernid/lernid.fix716937
[08:25] <nigelb> ahoy dholbach :)
[08:26] <dholbach> hey nigelb
[08:26] <nigelb> duanedesign: sadly, the last 2 commits have been from jorge, not fromthe actual maintainer :|
[08:27] <nigelb> hey dpm :)
[08:27] <dpm> hey nigelb
[08:27] <dpm> hey all, good morning!
[08:32] <kim0> dpm: howdy :)
[08:34] <dpm> hey kim0!
[09:00] <duanedesign> dholbach: ping
[09:02] <dholbach> duanedesign, pong
[09:02] <duanedesign> hello dholbach
[09:02] <dholbach> heya
[09:02] <duanedesign> dholbach: had a question
[09:02] <dholbach> sure
[09:02] <duanedesign> dholbach: trying to help someone in #ubuntu-app-devel.
[09:03] <duanedesign> Hi! I'm one of the developers of EdytorNC-program. We'd like to get it included in Ubuntu. In packaging guidelines there are instructions to package  upstream source release, but is it ok to add packaging information to source release itself?
[09:03] <dholbach> it's not necessary
[09:03] <dholbach> it's better to do that just in the distro
[09:03] <duanedesign> i was not sure what the status quo was
[09:03] <duanedesign> okies
[09:03] <dholbach> as it easily gets out of sync
[09:03] <dholbach> better not bother :)
[09:03] <duanedesign> great! thank you
[09:03] <dholbach> no worries
[09:23] <huats> morning everyone !
[10:06] <dholbach> party! it's ara's birthday!
[10:07] <nigelb> oh, ara: HAPPY BIRTHDAY :)
[10:08] <Pendulum> happy birthday ara!
[10:16] <ara> thanks all!
[11:07] <duanedesign> ♪♪ happy birthday to you ♪♪ happy birthday to you ♪♪  happy birthday ara ♪♪ happy birthday to you ♪♪
[11:08] <ara> duanedesign, thanks :)
[11:08] <duanedesign> :) I heep those notes in a tomboy note for just such occasions :)
[11:08] <popey> hahah
[11:08] <popey> i often wonder how people pluck these random Unicode chars out
[11:09] <duanedesign> what is funny nhandler has a script that reads highlights in irc. So it kind of sung it to him
[11:09] <popey> well, not often :)
[11:10] <duanedesign> Pendulum: hello. you have a second?
[11:10] <Pendulum> duanedesign: sure
[11:11] <kim0> ara: oh Happy B-day :)
[14:17] <jcastro> JFo: bring your knife
[14:18]  * JFo gets his knife
[14:20] <mhall119> that sounds like trouble
[14:21] <Pendulum> that sounds like fun
[14:21] <JFo> heh
[14:21] <mhall119> you have an interesting definition of 'fun'
[14:22] <mhall119> oddly, when I read that, I instantly pictured JFo giving himself a haircut with the knife
[14:23] <JFo> hah!
[14:23] <JFo> I do keep em sharp
[15:02] <jono> dpm, about ready?
[15:02] <dpm> jono, all set
[15:07] <dpm> jono, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek/Timetable
[15:12] <dpm> jono_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek/Timetable
[16:00] <Technoviking> popey: what was that vnc type screen viewing software you were using for support awhile back?
[16:06] <popey> Technoviking: vnc :)
[16:07] <popey> Technoviking: i have setup ssh keys to my mums house, so there is no vnc exposed to the world
[16:07] <popey> I just typed this:-
[16:07] <popey> vncviewer -via mumspubliciphostnamething localhost
[16:07] <popey> that ssh's to my mums box and a vnc window appears
[16:07] <popey> MAGIC!
[16:13] <popey> (the -via uses ssh)
[16:16] <Technoviking> popey: thought there are a different remote viewer you were using
[16:17] <popey> i use that one mostly
[16:30] <jcastro> cjohnston: where's that bug you filed about not showing partitions on the launcher?
[16:32] <cjohnston> someone duped it
[16:32] <cjohnston> one sec
[16:34] <cjohnston> compiz hasnt been playing well with me the last few days
[16:35] <jcastro> it was hell all weekend or me
[16:37] <cjohnston> im still having issues today
[16:38] <cjohnston> bug 711033
[16:38] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 711033 in unity "Add the ability to remove mounted drives from the Unity launcher (dup-of: 713423)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711033
[16:38] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 713423 in unity "Unity launcher gets cluttered when having multiple partitions and/or external volumes attached" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/713423
[16:40] <cjohnston> just crashed again
[16:41] <jcastro> 2d ftw.
[16:42] <cjohnston> lol
[16:42] <cjohnston> how do i switch
[16:43] <popey> cjohnston: http://popey.me/haHkMc
[16:43] <popey> :)
[16:45] <cjohnston> cool
[16:51] <cjohnston> 2d not as pretty
[16:51] <cjohnston> lol
[16:52] <popey> :)
[16:52] <popey> fancy that!
[17:58] <dholbach> alright my friends - I call it a day
[17:58] <dholbach> see you all tomorrow!
[17:58] <popey> o/
[17:58]  * popey tickles dholbach 
[17:58]  * dholbach hugs you all
[18:59] <jcastro> jono: got a sec for WP help?
[19:00] <jcastro> it is totally nonobvious to me how to change the Schedule link to the right one on uds.ubuntu.com
[19:02] <jcastro> jono: nevermind, found it!
[19:02] <jcastro> had to create a new menu thing
[19:03] <jono> jcastro, :-)
[19:03] <jcastro> still, nonobvious!
[19:08] <Technoviking> UDS blueprints are open
[19:08] <Technoviking> Are UDS blueprints open (sorry 5th hour of meetings, getting loopy)?
[19:18] <jcastro> I don't think they're ever really closed
[19:18] <jcastro> I think you can just submit
[19:18] <jcastro> jono: vandine has packaged that lens, any chance you're on amd64?
[19:21] <jono> jcastro, cool - nope, on x86
[19:21] <jcastro> k I might have a PPA for you later
[19:25] <jono> :-)
[19:30] <czajkowski> aloha
[19:33] <czajkowski> why after being up for 30 hours straight can I not sleep for more than 3 hours :(
[19:39] <czajkowski> does unity just lock up for anyone else for no reason what so ever
[19:39] <paultag> *cough* fluxbox *cough*
[19:42] <czajkowski> third time today I've had to hard reboot and always different things running :(
[19:57] <jcastro> can anyone get to omgubuntu.co.uk?
[19:59] <czajkowski> I tend to avoid any site with omgubuntu but will check jcastro
[19:59] <jcastro> hah
[19:59] <czajkowski> jcastro: seems to be rather slow
[19:59] <czajkowski> nope nothing loaded
[20:09] <IdleOne> not loading here either
[20:09] <IdleOne> oh wait
[20:09] <IdleOne> yes
[20:09] <IdleOne> slow but it loaded
[20:37] <mhall119> czajkowski: unity does that on eme
[20:37] <mhall119> on me
[20:37] <mhall119> jcastro: why the name change from places to lenses?
[20:37] <jcastro> no clue
[20:38] <mhall119> not that I think it's bad, just wondering why
[20:39] <mhall119> I'm still trying to think of a useful place/lense
[20:48] <jcastro> mhall119: dude, google docs!
[20:48] <jcastro> launchpad!
[20:51] <jcastro> mhall119: and I've sorted out how to package via kenvandine, so I can ppa up python places
[20:53] <mhall119> google docs I can see
[20:53] <mhall119> not sure on launchpad
[20:53] <jcastro> yeah, if you want to do one that people will use, docs ftw.
[22:44] <nigelb> Hello 4 am, nice to see you from this end
[22:44] <nigelb> Morning btw
[22:46] <jcastro> jono: ALRIGHT. Ready to try this badboy?
[22:46] <jcastro> who else is on 11.04?
[22:46] <jono> jcastro, sure
[22:47] <jcastro> https://launchpad.net/~askubuntu-tools/+archive/ppa/
[22:47] <jcastro> add the ppa, install it
[22:47] <nigelb> oh,neat!
[22:47] <jcastro> and then either logout or restart unity with a "unity --replace" in the terminal
[22:48] <jcastro> jono: you'll need to be up to date, there was a libdee update today we need
[22:50] <jono> jcastro, I upgraded today
[22:50] <jcastro> good, you should be fine
[22:51] <jcastro> jono: when you restart unity you should see the icon on your launcher
[22:55] <jono> jcastro, what package to install?
[22:56] <jcastro> unity-place-askubuntu
[22:56] <jcastro> jono: ^
[22:57] <jono> ok brb
[22:59] <jcastro> .... and ... ?
[22:59]  * jcastro drum rolls
[23:00] <jono> jcastro, doesnt work
[23:00]  * jcastro points head into the wall
[23:00] <jono> brb
[23:07] <jono> sorry jcastro, no luck here
[23:07] <jcastro> ugh so close
[23:07] <jcastro> I can feel it
[23:07] <jcastro> ok, ken's EODed and this is beyond my skill level
[23:07] <jcastro> I guess tomorrow will be the day
[23:08] <jcastro> jono: can you try one thing for me
[23:08] <jcastro> go into /usr/share/unity/places
[23:08] <jcastro> and do a ./unity-askubuntu-daemon
[23:08] <jcastro> and tell me what happens
[23:09] <jcastro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/584030/
[23:09] <jono> it isnt in there jcastro
[23:09] <jcastro> tell me if you see that
[23:09] <jono> I see askubuntu.place
[23:09] <jcastro> what's in there? anything related to the place?
[23:09] <jcastro> but not daemon thing?
[23:10] <jono> nope
[23:10] <jcastro> ok, that's a packaging bug. Whew.
[23:10] <jcastro> at least it's not my fault.
[23:10] <jono> np
[23:10] <jcastro> I'll ask ken to check it tomorrow
[23:10] <jono> why would it be your fault?
[23:10] <jcastro> I'm doing the recipe and stuff
[23:10] <jcastro> and he "dbussed" it basically
[23:10] <jcastro> the first cut you had to run the place by hand
[23:10] <jcastro> now it does like dbus activation or something
[23:11] <jcastro> so that it just runs when unity runs instead of you having to manually run the place
[23:11] <jcastro> which is handy when you're messing with it, but not friendly when you want users to mess with it
[23:31] <jono> cool
[23:32] <nigelb> jcastro: I could use some help :)
[23:33] <nigelb> with spreading the word out for the UGJ series of classroom sessions
[23:33] <nigelb> so far, I'm short of 1 instructor and 1 confirmation, I'll put up a post after I get those two.
[23:58] <nigelb> uhm, all confirmed :)