[10:36] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[10:59] <brobostigon> good morning darius :)
[10:59] <darius> morning brobostigon
[10:59] <darius> How's things?
[11:00] <brobostigon> darius: not bad, could be better, feeling ill. how about you?
[11:01] <darius> I'm good
[11:01] <brobostigon> :)
[11:01] <darius> trying out natty, still quite buggy, had a few problems with compiz
[11:01] <darius> but i'm quite liking it
[11:02] <brobostigon> i gave up on unity, and am using the gnome3-teams ppa, and am using gnome-shell myself.
[11:02] <darius> i tried gnome-shell
[11:02] <darius> it's ugly :(
[11:03] <brobostigon> i find it simple, which i like, but it works so much better for me, i like the new workspace management for example.
[11:04] <darius> the workspace management yes
[11:04] <darius> that is brilliant, but that's bound to find it's way onto unity at some point
[11:05] <brobostigon> darius: it cant be, as far as i cansee, wth the way its implemented inunity right now, in truth.
[11:05] <darius> there's always a way :P
[11:06] <brobostigon> i have my doubts,
[11:06] <darius> unity does need to be more themeable though
[11:07] <darius> and the nm-applet doesn't show when you have your networking set up with an iface
[11:07] <darius> which i have to do for the uni network :(
[11:07] <brobostigon> i think thats down to gtk still. as when i added gnome3 components, unity caight parts of the themeing from gnome3/gtk3.
[11:07] <darius> so i have to change my netowrking config every time i want to switch to wifi
[11:08] <brobostigon> :(
[11:08] <darius> I'll write a little bash script later to do it
[11:08] <brobostigon> darius: the gnome3  version of network-manager is huge improvement, though,
[11:08] <darius> wonder if i can hook it to call every time i unplug the ethernet :/
[11:09] <darius> haven't seen it, i'll have a look now
[11:10] <brobostigon> natty has the 2.32 version, whereas gnome3 uses 2.92.
[11:10] <brobostigon> i think.
[11:10] <brobostigon> !info network-manager natty
[11:10] <uc_tumbleweed> brobostigon: info <url|feed>
[11:10] <brobostigon> oh, sorry, wrong version numbering, but i know what iamgetting at.
[11:11] <darius> yeah
[11:11] <darius> oh the one with the slidy on/off buttons?
[11:11] <darius> ooh FF4 is out today
[11:11] <brobostigon> oh, imissed thhat.
[11:13] <darius> don't think it's quite enough to tear me away from chromium :P but it is nice
[11:13] <brobostigon> i will be sticking with chromium aswell, myself.
[11:15] <brobostigon> also i like being ale to message with empathy via notifications, in gnome-shell, insted of messing about with and or changing windows to see new messages and or reply to people.
[11:17] <darius> yeah i did see that, it does have some brilliant idea's
[11:18] <brobostigon> i also like, that they are going to make the calendaring, independant from evolution, as you always had to add you calendars to evolution, to get stuff inthere.
[11:22] <darius> that would be much better
[11:22] <darius> have you tried any of the elementary apps?
[11:22] <darius> Postler or Dexter?
[11:23] <brobostigon> no, explain please.
[11:25] <darius> the elementary project's email client and that, very nice, but very alpha :P
[11:26] <darius> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/tag/postler/
[11:28] <brobostigon> looks interesting.
[17:00] <brobostigon> hello everyone.