[06:19] <phsi> hmmm
[06:19] <phsi> make[7]: *** No rule to make target `-lpthread', needed by `js'. Stop.
[06:19] <phsi> rc2 from natty fails to build
[06:34] <phsi> weird, all google gives me is failed builds on slackware
[06:42] <phsi> ahh i fail at package management
[06:43] <phsi> nvm :P
[07:04] <chrisccoulson> phsi, that's bug 737641
[07:04] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 737641 in make-dfsg "Mozilla packages don't build in Natty (and blocking FF4.0 RC2/final)" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/737641
[08:25] <gnomefreak> mozilla 642395
[08:25] <ubot2> gnomefreak: Error: Error getting Mozilla bug #642395: NotPermitted
[08:25] <gnomefreak> anyone know why i cant access that bug report?
[08:37] <chrisccoulson> gnomefreak, because it's security related, most likely
[08:37] <chrisccoulson> i can't access them either
[08:37] <gnomefreak> k thanks
[08:39] <gnomefreak> ok thanks i let elky know
[08:46] <gnomefreak> chrisccoulson: if it was you that fixed prefered apps menu to include tb3.3 but it still is lacking 3.1 i dont think we packaged 3.2
[08:47] <chrisccoulson> gnomefreak, yeah. there is a merge request to fix 3.1, but the merge is wrong (and there are bigger issues with 3.1 in natty)
[08:48] <gnomefreak> chrisccoulson: ah ok thanks
[11:06] <msucan> hello :)
[14:50] <dpm> hi fta, you might be interested in subscribing to or commenting on bug 740225
[14:50] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 740225 in launchpad "The differences between New and Translated for upstreams was removed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/740225
[15:10] <chrisccoulson> HURRY UP BUILDERS!
[15:10] <chrisccoulson> gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
[15:21] <rickspencer3> Congrats all on Firefox 4.0
[15:21] <rickspencer3> world class software
[15:23] <jcastro> [reed]: are you partying yet?
[15:25] <chrisccoulson> heh
[15:27] <chrisccoulson> we really need something like this: http://glow.mozilla.org/ :-)
[15:32] <msucan> so fx4 is now building? :) is it going to be in french as well? in the ppa
[15:44] <chrisccoulson> msucan, you'll need the fr xpi to get french
[15:45] <msucan> chrisccoulson: is it going to be pushed as a package in the ppa?
[15:45] <chrisccoulson> msucan, yes
[15:45] <msucan> oky, thanks
[15:46] <msucan> i want to upgrade my ubuntu 10.04 lts to firefox 4 ... from 3.6, and i have my system in french
[15:46] <msucan> working with custom builds is not ideal :). i prefer a nice ppa
[15:46] <msucan> will the ppa provide security updates as well?
[15:48] <chrisccoulson> yeah, you'll need to get the french language pack from ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/4.0/linux-i686/xpi/
[15:48] <chrisccoulson> there's not really any other way to do that, because we bundle the 3.6 translations in our language packs
[15:48] <chrisccoulson> and those won't work in 4.0
[15:49] <msucan> it would be nice if the language packs could be updated somehow
[15:49] <chrisccoulson> yeah, that's impossible at the moment though, unless we ship full language packs in the PPA
[15:50] <chrisccoulson> and i don't want to go there ;)
[15:52] <wernicke> Is firefox4.0 still at rc1 in the PPA?
[15:53] <msucan> chrisccoulson: hehe, right. i'll just install the xpi ;)
[15:59] <chrisccoulson> msucan, in future, this PPA will probably go away and we will push straight to the archive
[15:59] <chrisccoulson> (with proper language packs)
[15:59] <msucan> that would be great. for the LTS you mean?
[15:59] <chrisccoulson> yeah
[16:18] <fta> dpm, done, thanks. but i'm not sure if it's about upstream or packaging
[16:19] <fta> rickspencer3, pff, not fair, no congrats for chromium 5/6/7/8/9/10 ;)
[16:19] <dpm> fta, I read it as a feature request for having back those coloured stats in an upstream project in LP (not in Ubuntu source packages)
[16:20] <fta> dpm, i read it as a bug complaint about a useful feature dropped (with which i 1000% agree)
[16:22] <dpm> fta, heh, yeah, interpretations might vary. In any case, I'd like to have them back as well ;)
[16:23] <chrisccoulson> fta - i guess there will be less excitement about firefox releases when we get 5/6/7/8 all in the same year ;)
[16:25] <fta> chrisccoulson, i feel it's more about main+default = great vs universe+opt-in = worthless :(
[16:26] <fta> hm, wth? debconf turned pink ??!
[16:28] <chrisccoulson> fta - are you able to run chromium in strace? it just hangs here
[16:28] <fta> try without the sandbox
[16:28] <chrisccoulson> fta - how do i do that?
[16:28] <fta> --disable-sandbox
[16:28] <chrisccoulson> fta - cool, thanks
[16:29] <chrisccoulson> hmm, it still hangs :(
[16:29] <fta> hm
[16:30] <fta> http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=20591
[16:31] <fta> it should be possible, most devs even valgring it
[16:31] <fta> incl the buildbots
[16:31] <fta> valgrind
[16:32] <chrisccoulson> heh, valgrind is pretty crazy ;)
[16:32] <fta> speaking of valgrind, i have to valgrind my own projects, 2 nasty crashers to catch
[17:04] <fta> chrisccoulson, why do you need to strace ch?
[17:32] <msucan> updated to firefox 4. thanks chris for the quick release of the fx4 ppa builds for ubuntu!
[17:44] <jcastro> woo!
[17:44] <jcastro> nice work chrisccoulson
[17:44] <jcastro> fta: you too every 6 weeks. :)
[17:50] <lder> hi.  anybody know why the ubuntu-mozilla-daily ppa is on b13?   is it pulling from http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/ ?
[17:53] <fta> ag
[17:54] <lder> i think the pointer may need to be redirect to somewhere in the http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/ branch
[17:58] <fta> lder, no, we always build from source
[17:59] <lder> fta: ah.  any idea why there is no source since b13?
[18:02] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: thanks for ff4! :D
[18:03] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, you probably shouldn't thank me, i just uploaded it ;)
[18:03] <m_conley> :D
[18:03] <chrisccoulson> lder, the version hasn't been bumped on mozilla-central yet
[18:08] <lder> i guess i should be using the firefox-stable ppa instead?
[18:12] <smallfoot-> will ff4 be in maverick 10.10 official repo?
[18:13] <smallfoot-> i know its in ppa
[18:15] <wernicke> why does firefox-4.0 for lucid install globalmenu?
[18:17] <fta> jdstrand, PIE? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/66991055/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-amd64.chromium-browser_11.0.696.16~r78799-0ubuntu1~ucd~dev1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[18:18] <fta> i wonder why it's only in -dev, but not in trunk
[18:25] <chrisccoulson> wernicke, it's an empty package on lucid
[18:25] <chrisccoulson> smallfoot-, no, but maverick will get a future firefox version
[18:26] <chrisccoulson> (probably 5)
[18:26] <wernicke> ahh, ok. thanks for uploading
[18:26] <micahg> fta: so, this is only in the dev channel?
[18:27] <smallfoot-> why does firefox copy everything chrome does?
[18:27] <smallfoot-> the interface, now the version numbering with 4,5,6,7,8 in some months
[18:30] <micahg> fta: multiarch :)
[18:30] <chrisccoulson> smallfoot-, what's the issue with copying good design decisions?
[18:31] <chrisccoulson> or should developers never reuse the work of someone else?
[18:36] <fta> micahg, hm.. so trunk will fail tomorrow then
[18:37] <micahg> fta: most probably
[18:38] <fta> ok, only natty/amd64 failed
[18:40] <micahg> right, which makes sense
[18:40] <fta> grrr, i don't have time for this
[18:44] <micahg> fta: I'll mention it to slangasek in #ubuntu-devel
[18:44] <fta> ok, thanks
[18:55] <smallfoot-> chrisccoulson, yes its good do stuff like implement WebGL, HTML5
[18:55] <smallfoot-> but when they adopt same version numbering (thats not a design decision) it seems it going too far
[19:07] <Milos_SD> Hi
[19:07] <Milos_SD> Will Firefox 4 final be in daily repo?
[19:07] <smallfoot-> i think not
[19:07] <smallfoot-> it seems it will be in 11.04 natty
[19:08] <smallfoot-> and maybe backported to 10.10 later, in long time
[19:09] <Milos_SD> so, for final version, I need to use firefox stable ppa?
[19:09] <smallfoot-> yes, i think so
[19:27] <Milos_SD> this su**s .... It took my old Firefox 3.6 profile, and not Minefield 4 profile :(
[19:27] <Milos_SD> I'll stay on Minefield... :)
[19:28] <micahg> Milos_SD: which version from where?
[19:28] <chrisccoulson> Milos_SD, it should have prompted you ;)
[19:28] <chrisccoulson> (it worked here)
[19:28] <Milos_SD> chrisccoulson, it didn't :(
[19:28] <Milos_SD> micahg, Firefox 4 final from firefox stable ppa
[19:29] <Milos_SD> it upgraded Firefox 3.6, and not Firefox 4 b13pre from daily ppa
[19:29] <Milos_SD> :(
[22:37] <cinch> thanks for the 4.0 ppa! i was having ugly fonts with the mozilla.com build and submitted a bug report (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=643884), which seems resolved with the ppa version. fonts look good again, cheers
[22:37] <ubot2> Mozilla bug 643884 in General "fonts appear choppy / light on linux" [Major,Unconfirmed]
[22:45] <BUGabundo> fta: can't get gmail desktop notifications to work, nor can I clear the option in the Settings :\\\\\
[22:57] <Dimmuxx> why is the firefox-stable build still branded as mozilla developer preview?
[23:03] <micahg> chrisccoulson: ^^
[23:06] <chrisccoulson> it shouldn't be
[23:08] <chrisccoulson> Dimmuxx, lucid or maverick?
[23:08] <chrisccoulson> they all seem to be built with official branding here. are you sure you're using the right version?
[23:09] <chrisccoulson> i'm not sure what builds you're using, but they aren't the ones from firefox-stable
[23:09] <micahg> Dimmuxx: it's firefox, not firefox-4.0 in stable
[23:16] <BUGabundo> fta: FYI http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=77106
[23:36] <fta> micahg, fyi, linux/beta (10.0.648.151 -> 11.0.696.16)
[23:36] <micahg> fta: ACK
[23:40] <fta> micahg, has the crypt fix been pushed already?
[23:40] <micahg> fta: yes, I'm test building chromium now
[23:40] <fta> i have to drop inspector for the next daily
[23:41] <fta> it's been merged into resources.pak
[23:41] <micahg> fta: we'll probably know in about an hour and a half if it was successful
[23:46] <fta> i wonder if i should continue to ship the deb empty or drop it
[23:47] <fta> maybe it's best to keep it empty to ease the transition
[23:47] <fta> for those shifting channels
[23:55] <fta> micahg, i think i will clean up d/control for ch11. like drop chromium-testsuite completely, it's gone since ch4 so it never reached the repos