[00:01] :/ [00:04] wibble [00:10] http://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/funny-facebook-fails-how-can-so-much-idiot-fit-in-one-man.jpg [00:44] lmao [00:44] nice Azelphur ;/ [00:44] anyone here used virtualbox on a linux host for gaming? [01:15] hamitron: dead loss. no useful 3d. and crap for old games too, due to lack of dos gues drivers [01:16] k, ty [01:22] having great fun trying to find a usb cable for this stupid gp2x wiz. I've a funny feeling it'll be seeing a soldering iron soon [01:23] http://pastebin.com/iMYVkAKY anyone know how to fix this? [01:23] what is this i don't even [01:24] git clone? [01:24] ali1234: trying to help kupfer get multi X support in, https://bugs.launchpad.net/kupfer/+bug/614796/comments/12 [01:24] Ubuntu bug 614796 in kupfer "Support for separate X screens" [Wishlist,New] [01:24] I need to grab from that repo but no luck :( [01:24] pretty sure you need clone, not fetch [01:25] clone just puts it in a directory called dbusdisplay:dbusdisplay [01:25] why is this a problem [01:25] because I need to download the fix to test it but I can't find a link on github.com and the command he gave me don't work? [01:26] he assumes you already have checked out the standard repo [01:26] oh so I run that after checking out the standard repo [01:26] git clone git://github.com/engla/kupfer.git [01:26] cd kupfer* [01:26] yup, already doing it :) [01:27] sorted [01:27] git checkout -b mybranch origin/dbusdisplay [01:27] something like that anyway [01:28] lolbroke :D [02:10] hi all [02:11] o/ [04:23] shauno: how's it going dude? [04:23] I should really learn to not let the internet distract me :/ [04:57] timestamp fail man [05:09] heh, nah... I got distracted and only noticed you'd actually said something till afterwards [05:12] shauno: not sure if its your thing, but recently stumbled upon this: http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR02202/ [05:17] it usually would be, but that one was boring :p [05:19] Really? I thought it was good. [05:30] \o [05:30] 'lo bob [05:30] MartijnVdS: o/ [05:30] hello guys [05:30] sup dude [05:30] is there a good package for widgets on ubuntu desktop ? can show CPU cores and ram ans such things ? [05:31] i need attractive one [05:31] ! [05:31] phonex01: screenlets [05:31] byobu [05:31] erm... screenlets... also, there's some stuff for gnome panels too [05:32] embedded terminal + byobu [05:32] that works too [05:32] looks cool as hell [05:32] ;) [05:33] I use byobu for general stuff :P [05:33] guys when i connect my laptop to datashow all compiz effetcs stop [05:33] why ? [05:33] what is datashow? [05:34] you mean a projector? [05:34] ^ [05:34] ya ya [05:34] projector [05:34] phonex01: what kind of graphics card do you have? [05:34] if you're trying to use the projector as a secondary monitor it can cause issues with compiz, I've found similar problems on multi-monitor setups [05:35] ATI ? [05:35] HD 3470 [05:35] http://ompldr.org/vN3d2ag [05:35] byobu :) [05:35] it is not secodry [05:36] slackthumbz: ooo, what you using for your menu? [05:37] phonex01: which driver are you using? the free one or the fglrx one? [05:37] phonex01: fglrx is more prone to break [05:37] slackthumbz: or is that just an invisible gnome panel? [05:37] AWN [05:37] gnome's own panels can look pretty sexy when you don't get stupid panel-applets that try to enforce their own background :/ [05:37] i installed the driver from ATI [05:38] awn, faenza icons, orta gtk theme [05:38] phonex01: that's fglrx, and that's the problem [05:40] If I start an X client and specify a geometry of 192x168-8+8, it seems to be a lot more than 8 pixels away from the right hand edge of the screen. [05:41] ...Is that to leave room for some kind of dock? [05:41] I think the window borders have some kind of invisible width lately [05:43] Looks more like 128 pixels away from the right-hand edge [05:44] brb battery's flat [05:49] slackthumbz: I did notice it was faenza icons... nice setup though :) [05:50] ty [05:51] I've also been building gnome-shell from their gt repository using jhbuild lately. Can't say it's as good as gnome 2.x but it seems to be improving. Haven't tried the latest Unity stuff in the Natty alhpha yet. [05:54] There, that's better. [06:46] morning [06:46] afternoon [06:46] hey slackthumbz [06:46] how are you today [06:46] not bad [06:46] how's it going? [06:47] doing fine , working from home today so i get to have my linux laptop along site of me all day long [06:47] nice, at my office we use debian on the desktop [06:48] but I'm on holiday atm so it's kind of a moot point. Got my netbook with me [06:50] cool , what are you running ? [06:50] ubuntu 10.10 [06:50] what netbook ? [06:50] going to install the 11.04 alpha on a spare partition when I get back to the UK [06:51] HP Mini [06:51] * knightwise is running 10.10 on his Macbook air [06:51] cool , nice little machine that is ! [06:51] :) [06:51] building gnome-shell from the git repositories at the moment [06:52] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell#Building [06:52] whow :) thats beyond my level of geekery [06:52] it's surprisingly simple [06:52] the gnome uys have provided some nice tools to ease the process [06:52] guys* [06:52] i still need to try unity [06:53] I wasn't fond of the unity build that shipped with 10.10 [06:53] but I've yet to try any of the newer stuff [06:53] think 10.4 will be better , [06:53] ? [06:54] probably, will be interesting to see [06:54] true [06:54] i'm currently meddling with some command line stuff [06:54] alpine , irssi, centerim .. byobu , twidge .. stuff like that [06:54] somehow love the command line interface :) [06:55] CLI is the best, it's been my favourite tool since 1998 [06:57] Don't think I could live without my embedded terminal [06:58] http://ompldr.org/vN3d2ag [07:08] true slackthumbz [07:09] cool , whats the name of that package ? [07:09] package? [07:10] for the embedded terminal you showed me in the screenshot ? [07:10] ah [07:10] it's gnome-terminal [07:10] you use compiz window rules to get rid of the window deocrations and things [07:10] aaah thats how you do it [07:11] :) i thought it was some kind of live wallpaper [07:11] nah, pretty simple to set up though [07:11] http://www.webupd8.org/2009/05/ubuntu-embed-terminal-into-you-desktop.html [07:14] hahaha :) very cool ! [07:27] Morning peeps [07:27] mornin' [07:30] hey TheOpenSourcerer [07:30] how are you today [07:30] I'm well thanks knightwise - and your good self? [07:33] doing fine [07:34] bit annoyed by my super sensitive touchpad on my macbook air under 10.10 [07:34] but for the rest, all is well [07:35] Preferrences->Mouse go to the general tab and adjust the sensitivity there [07:35] its not that its to "fast" in responding [07:35] but when i just ever so gently touch it with the palm of my hand while typing ... [07:35] ah [07:35] boom .. cursus hops around [07:35] I hate it when that happens [07:35] i did the disable while typing option [07:51] Morning [07:51] Blimey - where will it all end? Samsung F3 1TB (7200RPM) drive £37.99 inc. VAT from eBuyer this morning... [07:52] oooh [07:53] sounds nice [07:53] hey daubers how are you today [07:53] Awake! (honest!) [07:54] Totally OT but does anyone have any decent design ideas/templates for invoices or other business docs? [07:58] ha :) Ubuntu using grandmother turns 84 today :) [07:58] Happy birthday Gran-buntu ! :) [07:59] :) [07:59] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuForGrandma [08:00] its an older article , she's switching to 10.10 next week [08:00] she's on 9.04 now === dipl0 is now known as diplo [08:08] TheOpenSourcerer: Thats a bit.... open to interpretation as to what is "decent" [08:08] daubers: Yep - I'm happy to do the interpreting :-) [08:09] Am just after some inspiration really. [08:09] Heh, ours are all built by filemaker :( [08:09] Gosh - That still going? [08:09] try the office live library and steal ideas from there ? [08:10] Yup, it's not too bad in fairness to it. But it does require OSX [08:10] and the server bit is a pita [08:10] I hate filemaker [08:11] knightwise: "steal" probably isn't the right word... But I hadn't even looked there tbh - do I need MSO to look at the layouts? [08:12] I'm not sure , i think so ... [08:13] Hmm - They have a *very* long Service Agreement I have to agree to. Can't be arsed to read it all. [08:14] http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/templates/templates-FX101741961.aspx?CTT=97 [08:21] \o/ program no longer leaking file descriptors [08:27] Morning [08:44] Greetings early Earthlings [08:44] hey DJones bigcalm [08:45] * DJones takes bigcalm to AlanBell our new leader/poc/gopher/general dogsbody :) [08:45] Hi knightwise [08:46] Ah, I was wondering what the official title was going to be [08:46] lizard [08:46] bigcalm: I think the correct answer is "To be confirmed" [08:46] Ahh morning el Presidente [08:47] AlanBell: Lizard? Where has that come from, but thanks for the reminder, must remember to set my recorder for the new series of V starting this week [08:48] Oh god [08:48] I thought that show had died [08:48] (been canceled) [08:48] http://takemetoyourlizard.blogspot.com/2007/05/where-my-blog-got-its-name.html [08:48] 2nd series starts on Thursday [08:49] AlanBell: Makes sense now [08:49] I can't even remember which channel we were watching it on. This is how rememberable the show was :( [08:50] I only watched it for the Firefly crew. Even they couldn't hold it together [08:50] bigcalm: Probably SyFy channel [08:50] DJones: seems probable [08:50] I enjoyed it [08:51] I like the premise and the production values. But it was just meh somehow [08:51] Like the 1st ep of Flash Forward was great! [08:51] I watched the 1st 4 episodes there, and then watched the rest via the web because I couldn't be bothered waiting for it to be broadcast in the uk [08:51] Heh [08:52] Flashforward started well, slowed down but then got good towards the end [08:52] I will get around to reading the book [08:52] The one I was disappointed that got cancelled was Jericho, only had about 1.5 series [08:53] Right now we're enjoying Castle. So glad that it's made it to a 3rd series [08:53] bigcalm: Flashforward book? I've read it, it bears no resemblence to the series but as is usual was much better than the series [08:53] That's what I'm hoping for :) [08:54] mornin [08:54] I agree, flashforward had great potential [08:54] Hi hoovie [09:04] hey biggie [09:20] * bigcalm ponders having a dubstep day [09:28] bigcalm: don't do it! :) [09:29] * BigRedS is having a metal day [09:29] well, morning. Until anybody else gets in... [09:30] * daubers has been driving in with no music the past couple of days, and found it oddly relaxing [09:32] TheOpenSourcerer: hello :) [09:38] czajkowski: Hello. How was the ferryman? [09:38] Hello, hello! It's a beautiful day! :D [09:38] TheOpenSourcerer: good , just home [09:39] hey czajkowski ! Morning [09:39] great appearance on UUPC btw [09:40] thanks [09:41] good talk on RMS too ! [09:45] morning :) [09:49] Good morning [09:56] * Daviey grumbles at czajkowski [09:56] * czajkowski stuffs Daviey full of banana less grumbling [09:56] yes ma'am. [10:05] TheOpenSourcerer: bit ahead of themselves http://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/sixnations/2011/0322/england_video.html [10:05] lol [10:06] watcht eh video! [10:07] it seems there is some sort of strike on today at uni [10:07] walked through as many picket lines as possible to wind up the commie newspaper sellers :) [10:08] AKA rent-a-picket [10:08] mungojerry: It got nmentioned on teh radio, university lecturers on a 24 hour strike over pensions [10:09] No trains from cardiff central this morning due to power failure :( [10:10] DJones: it hasn't got much support tbh [10:10] * mungojerry isn't in the union anyway - costs more than my monthly mobile tariff [10:17] * popey sees http://wiki.qemu.org/Google_Summer_of_Code_2011#BeBox_system_emulation and thinks of brobostigon [10:28] Hello. [10:28] o/ [10:28] o/ [10:28] How're you? [10:28] cool and you [10:29] czajkowski, rofl at the video :D Ireland was amazing in that match. [10:30] JGJones: aye [10:30] fabulous, stomping around the ubuntu forums dealing with spam dogmatic69 . [10:30] Pity about Wales falling apart at the last hurdle. [10:34] hmm, no more spam. >.< [10:35] o_O === uk-stat is now known as ukstat [10:37] good morning everyone, [10:37] popey, That chrome advert you tweetwed was neat =) [10:37] * popey wonders what's going on with the bot [10:38] 10:17:36 * popey sees http://wiki.qemu.org/Google_Summer_of_Code_2011#BeBox_system_emulation and thinks of brobostigon [10:38] * brobostigon wakes up. [10:39] * DJones provides brobostigon with a new alarm clock [10:39] popey: interesting, thank you. [10:39] DJones: i woke up, as popey cameup with soething interesting. [10:40] Ah [10:40] that will be interesting, [10:41] i need to keep an eye on that. [10:42] Just read this - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12811197 - - Religion going extinct (hmm which remind me, I forgot to do my census...it's still sitting in my intray [10:44] JGJones: england reported 80% christianity last census when the true churchgoing figures are much less. it may be that culture has changed so that people don't go to church if they don't believe. [10:45] Bah...10 years to prepare and they have the census available in 56 languages but British Sign Language, an official language of UK isn't listed. [10:46] there is a dvd [10:46] http://help.census.gov.uk/england/help/help-and-information/SupplementaryMaterials/BSLguidanceDVD.html [10:46] ah thanks, will pass that onto my friends as they just asked :) [10:47] http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=census+british+sign+language [10:47] thats how i found it :) [10:47] hmm they're asking me about Q18/19 [10:47] Language = sign language [10:47] then 19 - implies speak? [10:47] I have BSL level 1 qualification. I am yet to actually need it for anything. [10:47] um...I read and write it very well. [10:47] i wonder why google needs sourceid=chrome in there [10:47] but speak it? [10:48] s-fox, you haven't met me yet. When you do, you'll need it ;-) [10:48] JGJones, Then it shall be fun :) [10:49] * DJones waits for an incoming livingdaylight asking about kubuntu [10:55] i think that was the last bond film i watched [10:55] * brobostigon just had to explain the whole history of BeOS and the BeBox to someone because of that qemu link. [10:56] anyone know how i can bypass this on EC2? The disk drive for /mnt/ebsimage is not ready yet or not present Continue to wait; or Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery [10:57] that is what "ec2-get-console-output" is saying... so it seems my box is just sitting waiting for input or the drive to mount [11:00] gord: it doesn't "need" it [11:00] gord: i just copy/pasted from my browser [11:00] popey, of course - i didn't mean it like that [11:00] i was just wondering why [11:01] revenue [11:01] google gets the browser id in the http headers [11:01] revenue would make sense... if it wasn't chrome ;) [11:02] an interesting way to embezzle money though [11:02] heh [11:04] gord: http://www.businessweek.com/technology/google-tax-cut/google-terminal.html [11:05] like google needs the money...and vodafone for that matter [11:06] are canonical registered in isle of man for tax purposes? [11:07] yes [11:07] and pretty much all software licenses for major suppliers come via ireland [11:07] one bit of canonical is [11:07] i wouldn't expect they have turned a profit thoguh [11:10] mungojerry, Google employed 24,400 full-time employees as of December 31, 2010. I am sure they pay them all salaries ;) [11:10] So, yes I think they might need money :) [11:11] s-fox: yes but corporate tax avoidance to the tune of $3bn is rather unethical woulnd't you say? [11:11] evasion is unethical, avoidance is good accountancy [11:11] I agree with AlanBell . [11:12] evasion is unlawful, avoidance is potentially unethical IMO [11:12] somone has to keep DJones in a job.. [11:12] however the public sector purchasing licenses for proprietary software which is untaxed in this country is an ethical issue for the public sector [11:12] screen-x: I don't do tax [11:12] DJones: neither does google [11:12] haha [11:12] or Microsoft [11:13] or IBM [11:13] popey: where do SAP/Oracle licenses ship from [11:13] not sure they "ship" from anywhere [11:13] CD/DVDs usually come from Germany [11:13] but most people dont order optical media much anymore, but download instead [11:14] paper licence certificates for IBM stuff used to come from Ireland and the CDs until they went download only (floppys before that I think) [11:14] although that's bizarro [11:14] popey: I guess its not so much where the product comes from, but where the entity you send the money to is [11:15] i am not involved in that side [11:15] * popey is just a lowly techy grunt :) [11:15] popey: I'm not sure I believe that [11:15] * popey shrugs [11:16] Careful popey - I nearly misread grunt... ;-) [11:17] \o/ the refresh link in gmail is finally a button, should have been one ages ago. [11:17] So it is [11:17] How quaint [11:17] either twitter is really flaky lately, or hotot has only just started telling me when there's problems..i think it's the latter [11:18] Dubstep day didn't last long. I'm enjoying REM - Lotus for the 1st time in several years [11:19] i rediscovered that sugarcubes sounded much better that bjork solo stuff [11:19] mungojerry: miss-read that as Sugarbabes [11:19] * bigcalm shudders [11:19] heh [11:19] ITYM Sugababes [11:19] :) [11:20] * mungojerry is wearing his redhat t-shirt for work today..what a geek. [11:20] one of the earliest linux screenshots I still have online features the Sugababes :) [11:20] the difference between owning a redhat thsirt and ubuntu one is that i paid for the ubuntu one [11:20] http://popey.com/~alan/scrot/2004-01-14-000416_1280x960_scrot.png [11:21] is that GAIM? [11:21] Looks like it [11:21] xfce, lookslike. [11:22] yes [11:22] i used to use xfce on debian [11:22] http://popey.com/~alan/scrot/2005-09-21-224627_1920x1200_scrot.png is fun [11:22] running lots of versions of windows at once under qemu :) [11:22] lol :) [11:22] someone should design a laptop keyboard that never gets warm ever - not a nice feeling on sunny warm days [11:22] You horrible man :P [11:23] linux desktop has come some way since then..although the screenshots look like my desktop from 1999 [11:24] ubuntu font made a nice difference actually [11:28] popey: man yum old ;) [11:32] grr windguru for iphone is giving a different forecast to windguru.cz for the same model (GFS) [11:36] The iphone app doesn't give the time that the model was run, so I suspect its old data. Shame, as its a more favourable forecast. [11:39] popey: Now try again with OS/2 version :) [11:39] s [11:39] :) [11:40] I tried to run OS/2 in QEmu once [11:40] but it failed [11:41] Some 286 opcode that was too hard/impossible to implement :| [11:41] (this was OS/2 Warp 3) [11:42] does anyone know how to forward mail from gmail but exclude the spam? apparently it forwards ALL mail. [11:43] mungojerry: use a filter [11:44] doesnt have: label:spam [11:44] greetings comrades [11:45] screen-x: forward doesn't allow that option though does it? [11:46] screen-x: think i've got it cheers [11:48] screen-x: however, "Warning: Filter searches containing "label:", "in:", or "is:" criteria are not recommended, as these criteria will never match incoming mail." [11:49] mungojerry: they do match incoming mail, but order is important, and there is no way to reorder filters without modifying them :( [11:50] Having said that, I don't know whether the spam label is applied before or after filters.. === kazade_ is now known as kazade [12:15] screen-x: cheers, got it working :) === tim_ is now known as tim_at_lunch [12:33] brobostigon: does unity on the eee run in 2d or 3d? [12:34] mungojerry: runs inboth here. [12:34] 2d is quicker i guess [12:35] yes, but miles. [12:35] by miles* [12:35] unity2d.* [12:35] !info unity-2d natty [12:35] unity-2d (source: unity-2d): Unity interface for non-accelerated graphics cards. In component main, is optional. Version 3.6.2-0ubuntu2 (natty), package size 5 kB, installed size 116 kB [12:36] brobostigon: are you running any cpu scaling [12:36] i seem to spend ages setting it up each time i destroy my setup [12:37] mungojerry: no cpu scaling. [12:39] man, could anyone help me with getting a ssl cert working? bought one off thawte.. cant find the right guide to use for this [12:40] have not seen two tutorials doing the same thing [12:44] dogmatic69: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/ssl/ssl_faq.html#realcert [12:46] that is for a self signed something? [12:48] dogmatic69: no, thats for generating CSR to send to CA, then installing signed cert. [12:50] dogmatic69: example of using real cert http://paste.ubuntu.com/583774/ [12:59] screen-x: thanks, its just that people already done half of this [12:59] suck a mess [13:02] right, "openssl x509 -noout -text -in server.crt" gives some legit looking output [13:10] dogmatic69: I have to lookup the openssl incantations each time I install a cert, I don't do it often enough to remember.. [13:12] * screen-x submits census [13:16] davmor2: what have you done to moodoo ? [13:17] czajkowski: no idea I'm assuming he is on nights or holiday [13:17] odd [13:17] czajkowski: how's Ireland [13:17] he usually still joins you in tormenting me [13:17] davmor2: brief visit [13:17] grand got to see the sister [13:18] czajkowski: Oi I ain't said nothing to you, apart from this how dare you trundle past wolverhampton on the train and not pay a visit :P [13:19] pff you'd have been asleep [13:19] option was at 8am yesterday or at 3am this morning take your pick [13:21] the census envelope makes quite a good hat, I propose we all wear them on the 27th [13:23] Hi all o. [13:23] o/ [13:23] lo [13:23] selinuxium: howdy [13:23] selinuxium: morning [13:24] Anyone done an upgrade to 11.04? I was wondering if I should test it or just flatten the laptop... [13:24] screen-x: isn't it supposed to not be filled in until the 27th? [13:25] aye [13:26] BigRedS: As far as I know, its about the 27th, but can be filled in early, if the situation on the 27th is known. [13:26] census.gov.uk says "It's time to fill it in" [13:27] * mungojerry hasn't opened his census letter yet, it's still sitting unopened on the stairs along with unopened bills and this months copy of linux magazine [13:29] i haven't opened these bottles of rum i received this morning [13:29] i should fix this later [13:30] when does census need to be done by? [13:30] ISTR it's supposed to be filled in on the 27th and posted by the 31st [13:31] i did mine online weeks ago [13:31]