[20:11] <iheartubuntu> this ATT email stuff is a nightmare :)
[20:11] <iheartubuntu> i finally got it working
[20:13] <pleia2> yay :)
[20:13] <iheartubuntu> i needed to use the actual ATT account associated with the DSL line. no other att accounts would work, had to be that which was connected with that particular DSL
[20:13] <iheartubuntu> but :)
[20:13] <pleia2> ah
[20:13] <iheartubuntu> i think i sent too many test messages
[20:13] <iheartubuntu> because now its blocked!
[20:13] <iheartubuntu> im getting a failed attempt message
[20:14] <iheartubuntu> and yest i was reading ATT has all sorts of spam filters.
[20:14] <iheartubuntu> no more than 20 messages at time, or during a certain amount of timeframe
[20:14] <iheartubuntu> so i wonder if i triggered it
[20:14] <pleia2> yeah
[20:14] <iheartubuntu> i hope it fixes itself over time though
[21:13] <iheartubuntu> hello phildini
[21:16] <phildini> howdy.
[21:16] <phildini> how's it going?
[21:18] <iheartubuntu> good thanks!
[21:19] <nhaines> Well, filed a Unity bug.  My first or second, I can't remember.  :)
[21:23] <iheartubuntu> How is Unity working out for you?
[21:24] <iheartubuntu> For anyone who has used Ubuntu Server: Does it use Gnome and also does it have a setup guide at all?
[21:28] <nhaines> Unity is really fantastic.  I'm very happy with most of it, and the rest are usability quirks that can be fixed if I am unlazy enough to file bugs.
[21:28] <nhaines> Ubuntu Server does not use GNOME.  It is a server.
[21:29] <iheartubuntu> so there is no GUI?
[21:30] <iheartubuntu> Ive never used it so...
[21:30] <nhaines> iheartubuntu: Right, there is no GUI.
[21:30] <nhaines> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/index.html
[21:30] <iheartubuntu> Isnt it plausible to just use Dekstop in a small business enviro? Thats what Im doing now :)
[21:31] <nhaines> Yes?
[21:32] <nhaines> The main advantages to using Ubuntu Server is that it's a ~800MB install, only has essential software, and the kernel is tuned for background services.
[21:32] <nhaines> So it's not wasting CPU or memory running GNOME, and it's not subject to vulnerabilities in Flash, Firefox, LibreOffice, etc. (because they're not installed).
[21:33] <akk> It's all the same repositories. You can install desktop and remove gnome, or start with server and install part or all of gnome.
[21:33] <iheartubuntu> I see. One of these days I will just dive into the server edition
[21:34] <iheartubuntu> so its all terminal basically
[21:34] <nhaines> iheartubuntu: yup.
[21:35] <nhaines> But, it's all Ubuntu.  So you can install what you need on top of it.
[21:35] <nhaines> And if you install SSH, then you can manage it very comfortably from your Desktop install on another machine.  :)
[21:35] <nhaines> GNOMEaps have very good support for SFTP (file transfer over SSH).
[21:36] <nhaines> s/GNOMEaps/GNOME apps/
[21:36] <iheartubuntu> very nice
[21:37] <nhaines> For example, the last time I updated my website (on shared hosting runing CentOS in Atlanta), I went to Nautilus, typed sftp://host/home/myname/public_html/ in the location bar, then when the remote folder came up, I right-clicked an HTML file and said "Open in Text Editor", made my changes, hit save, and refreshed my site in Firefox.  ;)
[21:37] <nhaines> Also don't do this on live sites, it's bad practice.  ;)
[21:40] <iheartubuntu> sftp is that ftp access
[21:41] <iheartubuntu> long were the days when i logged into ftp:// anything :)
[21:45] <nhaines> No, it's file transfer over SSH.
[21:45] <iheartubuntu> interesting
[21:45] <iheartubuntu> so you are logging into your own server
[21:46] <nhaines> If by "my own server" you mean "the shared hosting CentOS server my webhost provides me", then yes.  :)