=== ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-ca to: Welcome to the Ubuntu California Local Community (LoCo) Team! | Webpage: http://ubuntu-california.org (has links to mailing list, forum, and more!) | Next Meeting: Sunday, Mar 27th, 7:00pm PDT | This channel is publicly logged at irclogs.ubuntu.com | We have an unlogged channel at #ubuntu-us-ca-offtopic === phildini is now known as Phildini === jono_ is now known as jono [20:11] this ATT email stuff is a nightmare :) [20:11] i finally got it working [20:13] yay :) [20:13] i needed to use the actual ATT account associated with the DSL line. no other att accounts would work, had to be that which was connected with that particular DSL [20:13] but :) [20:13] ah [20:13] i think i sent too many test messages [20:13] because now its blocked! [20:13] im getting a failed attempt message [20:14] and yest i was reading ATT has all sorts of spam filters. [20:14] no more than 20 messages at time, or during a certain amount of timeframe [20:14] so i wonder if i triggered it [20:14] yeah [20:14] i hope it fixes itself over time though [21:13] hello phildini [21:16] howdy. [21:16] how's it going? [21:18] good thanks! [21:19] Well, filed a Unity bug. My first or second, I can't remember. :) === phildini_ is now known as phildini [21:23] How is Unity working out for you? [21:24] For anyone who has used Ubuntu Server: Does it use Gnome and also does it have a setup guide at all? [21:28] Unity is really fantastic. I'm very happy with most of it, and the rest are usability quirks that can be fixed if I am unlazy enough to file bugs. [21:28] Ubuntu Server does not use GNOME. It is a server. [21:29] so there is no GUI? [21:30] Ive never used it so... [21:30] iheartubuntu: Right, there is no GUI. [21:30] https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/index.html [21:30] Isnt it plausible to just use Dekstop in a small business enviro? Thats what Im doing now :) [21:31] Yes? [21:32] The main advantages to using Ubuntu Server is that it's a ~800MB install, only has essential software, and the kernel is tuned for background services. [21:32] So it's not wasting CPU or memory running GNOME, and it's not subject to vulnerabilities in Flash, Firefox, LibreOffice, etc. (because they're not installed). [21:33] It's all the same repositories. You can install desktop and remove gnome, or start with server and install part or all of gnome. [21:33] I see. One of these days I will just dive into the server edition [21:34] so its all terminal basically [21:34] iheartubuntu: yup. [21:35] But, it's all Ubuntu. So you can install what you need on top of it. [21:35] And if you install SSH, then you can manage it very comfortably from your Desktop install on another machine. :) [21:35] GNOMEaps have very good support for SFTP (file transfer over SSH). [21:36] s/GNOMEaps/GNOME apps/ [21:36] very nice [21:37] For example, the last time I updated my website (on shared hosting runing CentOS in Atlanta), I went to Nautilus, typed sftp://host/home/myname/public_html/ in the location bar, then when the remote folder came up, I right-clicked an HTML file and said "Open in Text Editor", made my changes, hit save, and refreshed my site in Firefox. ;) [21:37] Also don't do this on live sites, it's bad practice. ;) [21:40] sftp is that ftp access [21:41] long were the days when i logged into ftp:// anything :) [21:45] No, it's file transfer over SSH. [21:45] interesting [21:45] so you are logging into your own server [21:46] If by "my own server" you mean "the shared hosting CentOS server my webhost provides me", then yes. :)