| orias | how goes it? | 00:09 |
|---|---|---|
| cyberanger | hey everyone | 00:13 |
| wrst | hey cyberanger! | 00:20 |
| cyberanger | how's it going | 00:20 |
| chibihogoshino | im sick of people thinking that japan is irradiating the us | 00:35 |
| wrst | cyberanger going. well the baby sleeps on occasion | 01:04 |
| cyberanger | on occasion, sounds suspiously like "whew, some quie......damn it' | 01:05 |
| cyberanger | perhaps that's just me | 01:06 |
| wrst | cyberanger have you read the email from Netritious? | 01:09 |
| cyberanger | idk if I've got one from him | 01:14 |
| * cyberanger quickly heads to his inbox | 01:14 | |
| * cyberanger curses | 01:16 | |
| cyberanger | we lost jfenn2199 too | 01:16 |
| cyberanger | afaik | 01:16 |
| cyberanger | (I renewed him presuming it was just a short notice for him) | 01:16 |
| cyberanger | I'll have to get with netritious, figure out where to go from here | 01:17 |
| wrst | on the website I will offer my meager skills to do something | 01:20 |
| wrst | cyberangerb | 01:20 |
| wrst | cyberanger baby time will talk later or in the morning | 01:21 |
| cyberanger | wrst: no good if it's not used | 01:21 |
| cyberanger | by anyone | 01:21 |
| cyberanger | wrst: and ok | 01:21 |
| wrst | and I can host on my server for the very temporary | 01:22 |
| cyberanger | I can host longer, but still the matter of bots | 01:22 |
| cyberanger | 95% bots | 01:22 |
| cyberanger | not good | 01:22 |
| cyberanger | my box is static ip though | 01:27 |
| cyberanger | so that helps | 01:27 |
| robertzaccour | hey yall | 02:20 |
| cyberanger | hey | 02:40 |
| robertzaccour | how goes it? | 02:45 |
| robertzaccour | I'm at work gonna be here for a total of over 16 hours | 02:49 |
| cyberanger | that sounds like, uh, what's the word I'm looking for .............. fun? | 02:50 |
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| robertzaccour | cyberanger, well one good thing out of it is not having to go home and go back to work tomorrow. its considered 2 shifts just back to back | 03:06 |
| cyberanger | ah | 03:12 |
| cyberanger | I guess that's better | 03:12 |
| cyberanger | I think | 03:12 |
| robertzaccour | well the rest of this week after this til midnight shift will be overnight shifts | 03:13 |
| robertzaccour | 12-8 | 03:13 |
| robertzaccour | this one is a 330-12 then a 12-8 back to back shifts | 03:13 |
| orias | OT? | 03:15 |
| orias | how many users/lurkers are in memphis? | 03:16 |
| robertzaccour | yep OT every week :) | 03:16 |
| orias | \0/ | 03:16 |
| cyberanger | orias: a few, at this moment 4 I think | 03:28 |
| cyberanger | question is when will they stop lurking and talk | 03:28 |
| cyberanger | as for the leader bit, on the list, not too big a concern, we have a 2nd leader as well in memphis | 03:29 |
| cyberanger | and I'm sure that'll come up in the next meeting | 03:30 |
| robertzaccour | what are these meetings usually all about? | 03:43 |
| robertzaccour | updated natty gotta restart if i'm not back then something broke and I'll try again in a couple days haha | 03:44 |
| cyberanger | robertzaccour: the actual meetings, or the meetups | 03:46 |
| robertzaccour | back | 03:49 |
| cyberanger | robertzaccour: the actual meetings, or the meetups | 03:50 |
| cyberanger | ? | 03:50 |
| robertzaccour | cyberanger, both | 03:51 |
| cyberanger | meetups (like the release party) is just a convinent excuse to leave the matrix for a party | 03:51 |
| cyberanger | the meetings are whatever needs to be said mostly planning future events | 03:52 |
| cyberanger | leadership issues | 03:52 |
| cyberanger | loco approval process | 03:52 |
| cyberanger | meetups are pretty much a party, the meetings will make more sense in a few days | 03:53 |
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| cyberanger | kinda a watch it happen and "OH!" | 03:53 |
| robertzaccour | If I don't have internet access with my laptop then I'll be rockin android irc for the meeting :) | 03:54 |
| cyberanger | similar here I think | 03:55 |
| cyberanger | I think I might actually have to have another leader run it | 03:56 |
| cyberanger | my birthday, family might want be to set it aside | 03:56 |
| robertzaccour | Is it recommended for active members to have expert level proficiency in Linux? Mine is little more than basic | 04:00 |
| cyberanger | the word is intrest, not experence of proficiency (however that is an added bonus ;-)) | 04:02 |
| robertzaccour | oh i see | 04:03 |
| cyberanger | your covered | 04:06 |
| robertzaccour | I'm no programmer, have helped fix a few bugs though | 04:08 |
| cyberanger | I'm a sysadmin, different breed too | 04:16 |
| cyberanger | file and debug I can do, maybe code Hello World in some languages, but focus on Admin duties | 04:17 |
| robertzaccour | oh ok | 04:53 |
| robertzaccour | I mainly just learn what I need to as I go. No interest in extensive stuff I'm mostly just a user haha | 04:54 |
| cyberanger | robertzaccour: gotta start somewhere, I'd been there too (little more than need, technically, but most linux users have some curousity attached too) | 04:56 |
| wrst | cyberanger: you around? | 11:33 |
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| Xpistos | Morning | 13:06 |
| Xpistos | wrst | 13:06 |
| wrst | morning Xpistos! | 13:06 |
| Xpistos | And how is the little bundle of joy doing today? | 13:07 |
| wrst | doing well making her first dr. visit today | 13:07 |
| Xpistos | My wife is in love with the baby! She say the picture and started talking about how cute and that she wants another one. | 13:08 |
| Xpistos | So I told her she is going to have to fight you for that one cause this shop is closed! | 13:09 |
| Xpistos | Oh FYI, if you see a short puerto rican with glasses and a crazy look in her eyes ... call the cops@ | 13:10 |
| wrst | ha ha Xpistos ok :) | 13:16 |
| wrst | thanks for the heads up! | 13:16 |
| cyberanger | hey wrst | 15:25 |
| wrst | cyberanger: how are you doing? | 15:26 |
| cyberanger | fairly well | 15:27 |
| cyberanger | and you? | 15:40 |
| wrst | yes doing well | 15:42 |
| wrst | cyberanger: curious how much is a linode server? | 15:42 |
| wrst | cyberanger: i am wondering if it might be worth having a loco one to host the website on and could do some cool things like allow shell access and that type of thing for those who donate to the cause | 15:43 |
| cyberanger | 20 a month | 15:44 |
| wrst | hmm probably a little pricey then isn't it cyberanger, does that sound like a horrible idea? | 15:46 |
| wrst | if it were cost effective | 15:46 |
| cyberanger | the problem I see with the website is ~5% is people, and I bet ~90% of that is spurred by us in IRC, esp around meetings | 15:47 |
| wrst | yeah i agree cyberanger i'm just wondering... i mean we need a site but at the same time what we have obviously isn't serving a good purpose, is that a fair assessment? | 15:48 |
| cyberanger | mostly | 15:49 |
| wrst | we do have several loco members who aren't in irc, but don't use email either... i wonder if they are or even want to be active etc | 15:49 |
| cyberanger | not all locos have a site | 15:49 |
| wrst | true, true | 15:50 |
| cyberanger | and some locos have underutilized sites | 15:50 |
| wrst | just thinking linode woudl be cool and we could also have a "community shell" that could help a lot of people but that in itself woudl be a huge headache also | 15:50 |
| cyberanger | our usage shows that something is wrong, that part is clear | 15:51 |
| cyberanger | and that's an issue | 15:51 |
| cyberanger | how much we'd have to lock it down, to be another underutilized service | 15:52 |
| cyberanger | I mean, it is a thought | 15:52 |
| wrst | yes exactly just a thought :) | 15:52 |
| wrst | i know you and i both use a shell sometimes | 15:53 |
| wrst | and that might be all the interest there would be :) | 15:53 |
| Xpistos | it's hard to know howmuch server or how much website you actually need for thigns | 15:55 |
| wrst | true Xpistos | 15:56 |
| Xpistos | so are things settling down for you wrst. Baby and mom are home now? | 15:56 |
| cyberanger | Xpistos: it's easy to know right now, what we have isn't right though | 15:59 |
| cyberanger | unfortunately | 16:00 |
| Xpistos | roger | 16:00 |
| wrst | Xpistos: yeah things are getting to what i think will be normal | 16:01 |
| Xpistos | good | 16:01 |
| cyberanger | ~5% is human traffic, and I'd suspect ~90% is related to here, or carrying a link to our forum, launchpad, webchat.freenode.net | 16:01 |
| wrst | but anyway cyberanger just throwing some thoughts out there, that came to me in the shower :) | 16:02 |
| wrst | i would suspect you are correct cyberanger | 16:02 |
| cyberanger | I have a hard time seeing supporting WP on a site that is so static as ours, seems like supporting WP more than any page viewers | 16:03 |
| wrst | cyberanger: i would pull more to a drupal site personally | 16:04 |
| wrst | its better for static content but you can also do bloggin etc if you desire | 16:04 |
| cyberanger | that could be done, same issue, supporting drupal more than page viewers | 16:05 |
| wrst | hmm not for sure if i'm following what you mean there now that I think about it cyberanger? :) | 16:05 |
| cyberanger | spending more time keeping drupal, joomla, wordpress up to date, than people viewing drupal, joomla, wordpress | 16:06 |
| cyberanger | disportionate amount of overhead | 16:07 |
| wrst | not so much i don't think drupal isn't bad and the update process is pretty painless when you need to | 16:09 |
| cyberanger | unlike a desktop, there is more involvement, if not in the update itself | 16:13 |
| cyberanger | then in keeping it locked down, secure versions | 16:13 |
| cyberanger | all of which static html overrules | 16:13 |
| cyberanger | becuase there is nothing for things to latch onto | 16:18 |
| wrst | agreed there cyberanger | 16:18 |
| wrst | i am not so gifted with html :) | 16:18 |
| wrst | but you are correct, you have to deal with databases all sorts of junk | 16:18 |
| cyberanger | that's fine, most of our stuff is static | 16:19 |
| cyberanger | the blog, calendar, meeting dates, that's all that changes | 16:19 |
| cyberanger | I can embed the calendar in the site, from google calendar | 16:20 |
| cyberanger | minor risk there | 16:20 |
| cyberanger | the meeting date is on the wiki, presto | 16:20 |
| cyberanger | the blog bit is tricky | 16:20 |
| cyberanger | on one hand, I think we should have it, on the other, so rarely used, mostly by netritious I think, and he's giving it up | 16:21 |
| cyberanger | what I'm thinking then, is a tag on blogs, I link to a members blog, with that tag only | 16:22 |
| cyberanger | then any member can post, via their blog | 16:22 |
| cyberanger | keeps everything static, small | 16:23 |
| cyberanger | easy to migrate in a jam | 16:23 |
| cyberanger | much easier to maintain too | 16:23 |
| wrst | yeah google calendar is wonderful too i think :) | 16:31 |
| cyberanger | wrst: note how all that is hosted elsewhere, for free, by people paid to manage it (blog aside, but they can use professional hosting, or choose to maintain it themselves) | 16:48 |
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| wrst | well the blog stuff really doesn't seem to work anyway, because when a blog is written no one responds so it leads someone like me that would enjoy bloggin really saying what's the use if no one reads it :) | 16:58 |
| cyberanger | which is why I take the approach of linking personal blogs | 17:00 |
| cyberanger | readers like it, keep reading it, members choose to have it or not | 17:00 |
| cyberanger | not all or none, but each member chooses | 17:00 |
| wrst | i have no issue with that approach at all | 17:09 |
| cyberanger | good news is jfenn2199 is still a west tn leader | 17:11 |
| cyberanger | just didn't get the chance to update his membership quickly enough | 17:11 |
| wrst | yes i caught that sounds like he should be back around in a week or two which is good | 17:12 |
| cyberanger | did he metion something in here too? | 17:14 |
| wrst | got an email or something i thought | 17:14 |
| cyberanger | hrm | 17:14 |
| wrst | cyberanger: i get info in so many different ways i can't remember where i get it :) | 17:14 |
| wrst | yes email | 17:15 |
| cyberanger | well, I don't recall saying a week or two | 17:15 |
| cyberanger | otherwise I'd think it was me | 17:15 |
| wrst | check thy mail cyberanger :) | 17:15 |
| wrst | well whenever it gets finished Still working... | 17:16 |
| cyberanger | oh, I do, just not at this higher than usual rate | 17:17 |
| wrst | ok there you go cyberanger | 17:17 |
| cyberanger | and you just forwarded it why, lol | 17:18 |
| cyberanger | gmail was smart, tossed it into the proper list folder, stripped out the body since there was no difference | 17:19 |
| cyberanger | oh well | 17:19 |
| cyberanger | :-) | 17:19 |
| wrst | well that is pretty smart | 17:22 |
| wrst | much smarter than me | 17:22 |
| cyberanger | wrst: yeah, I filter and sort my mail, and the loco sees a post a month or so | 17:31 |
| cyberanger | so I check daily | 17:31 |
| cyberanger | and yesterday and today you metioned it before I'd check (around 10 except a meeting night) | 17:31 |
| wrst | ha ha | 17:32 |
| wrst | i'm not that fancy | 17:32 |
| cyberanger | you use gmail, nothing fancy about it, lol | 17:32 |
| wrst | yeah that is true :) | 17:33 |
| cyberanger | just a member of a few lugs, all of TN's afaik, plus west nc lug in asheville | 17:33 |
| wrst | cool cyberanger | 17:33 |
| cyberanger | and with that, a few too many emails | 17:33 |
| cyberanger | for just an inbox approach | 17:33 |
| cyberanger | (not to metion everything else) | 17:34 |
| robertzaccour | hey yall | 17:34 |
| robertzaccour | hey power ranger | 17:34 |
| robertzaccour | i mean cyberanger | 17:34 |
| wrst | hey robertzaccour | 17:34 |
| robertzaccour | hey wrst | 17:34 |
| robertzaccour | whats wrst stand for? | 17:35 |
| robertzaccour | is it an acronym? | 17:35 |
| wrst | nah just a bunch of letters really robertzaccour :) | 17:35 |
| robertzaccour | ah ok | 17:37 |
| robertzaccour | my nickname is first name last name | 17:37 |
| wrst | actually parts of my name | 17:37 |
| robertzaccour | same for my gmail | 17:37 |
| robertzaccour | did ya leave out the o for worst? | 17:38 |
| cyberanger | hrm, somebody's in a different mood today | 17:38 |
| cyberanger | oh, wait that's me, a day off, woot | 17:39 |
| wrst | nah didn't mean to robertzaccour :D | 17:40 |
| wrst | but that works | 17:40 |
| robertzaccour | I decided to ask another staff member for their sunday instead of taking a day off last sunda | 18:07 |
| robertzaccour | sunday | 18:07 |
| robertzaccour | I missed a couple days from pneumonia and wanted to make that up | 18:07 |
| robertzaccour | I wonder when Android will come preinstalled on computers | 18:14 |
| wrst | robertzaccour: did you ever get updated up to natty? | 18:26 |
| wrst | i noticed that over in #cooklug | 18:26 |
| robertzaccour | wrst, yes I did | 18:41 |
| robertzaccour | wrst, so far no breakage | 18:41 |
| wrst | how do you like unity? | 18:41 |
| wrst | and robertzaccour its fairly stable now i think | 18:41 |
| robertzaccour | wrst, its still a little slow, but fairly stable | 18:42 |
| robertzaccour | and not complete yet | 18:42 |
| robertzaccour | in the applications launcher the pop down button menu in the upper right is useless atm nothing is clickable and it doesn't scroll back up kinda just sticks down | 18:42 |
| wrst | yes, and i wasn't for sure on the speed if it was just me since i've been using arch and natty or if it really was slow | 18:43 |
| robertzaccour | If It doesn't improve significantly I'll switch to Xfce | 18:43 |
| robertzaccour | not a fan of KDE and Gnome 3 is too dumbed down for me | 18:43 |
| robertzaccour | and gnome shell is just dumb imo | 18:43 |
| robertzaccour | Xfce might just be what saves the Linux desktop from, IMO, stupid UIs | 18:44 |
| wrst | well robertzaccour, KDE if it worked like it should really would be my choice, and gnome has always worked, while not pretty it worked well, so i may go cyberanger and just go cli | 18:44 |
| robertzaccour | the only thing I do in cli is sudo apt-get install whatever | 18:45 |
| robertzaccour | I'm a very basic user I suppose lol | 18:46 |
| robertzaccour | I could use it for more but not really for my taste | 18:46 |
| wrst | that's the great thing about ubuntu, when everything is working you shouldn't have to use the cli period | 18:47 |
| chibihogoshino | xfce is the shit | 19:31 |
| Xpistos | chibihogoshino: Yeah, I like it a bit | 19:34 |
| chibihogoshino | i like it better than gnome | 19:34 |
| Xpistos | well it is like gnome jr | 19:34 |
| chibihogoshino | ll | 19:34 |
| chibihogoshino | eh.. lol | 19:34 |
| Xpistos | I like openbox the best, but I like all the gtk apps so I use xfce and make it look like openbox | 19:35 |
| chibihogoshino | ob and xfce feel more like what linux should be like | 19:35 |
| Xpistos | yep | 19:45 |
| wrst | Xpistos: i'm going evil i'm downloading linux mint debian | 19:49 |
| Xpistos | my wife is using that | 19:49 |
| wrst | i like the rolling part and the debian part, and the not having to wrestle with drivers in debian part | 19:49 |
| Xpistos | so what is the difference between Mint Debian and Mint 10? | 19:57 |
| wrst | debian is based on debian. testing not ubuntu | 19:58 |
| wrst | and is a rolling release | 19:59 |
| wrst | Xpistos: i'm not about to fall off the ubuntu wagon but wanting to check it out | 20:07 |
| cyberanger | wrst: debian is based on debian? | 22:12 |
| cyberanger | ;-) | 22:13 |
| chris4585 | lol | 22:15 |
| chris4585 | has anyone seen the news about debian CUT? | 22:16 |
| wrst | hmm cyberanger linux mint debian is based on debian cyberanger :) | 23:03 |
| wrst | chris4585: i have seen that looks exciting to me | 23:04 |
| chris4585 | wrst, it would be awesome if Ubuntu adopted that sort of model.. | 23:04 |
| wrst | i'm a fan of rolling releases chris4585 | 23:05 |
| wrst | only thin is when gnome 3.0 comes out i'm curious what my arch install is going to do | 23:05 |
| chris4585 | same | 23:05 |
| chris4585 | wrst, I believe the classic desktop will still be supported | 23:05 |
| chris4585 | I'm not sure if updates will automatically get you there.. or what | 23:06 |
| wrst | sounds like they will | 23:06 |
| chris4585 | but I know it will still be in the repos for arch | 23:06 |
| chris4585 | at least thats what I've heard | 23:06 |
| wrst | python 3 hit the repos and replaced python2 that was a headache :) | 23:06 |
| wrst | had to redirect some apps to python2 since they didn't work with python 3 | 23:07 |
| chris4585 | lol | 23:07 |
| chris4585 | doesn't arch have both available like ubuntu? | 23:07 |
| wrst | in a limited way got to program some | 23:07 |
| chris4585 | I should try arch again soon... | 23:07 |
| chris4585 | I miss it so | 23:07 |
| wrst | yes but python 3 become python, and python (2) became python2 so if a package directed to python it went to python 3 not 2 | 23:07 |
| chris4585 | ah | 23:08 |
| wrst | i'm in a distro trying mood, but want to stay in the debian realm of things i think :) | 23:08 |
| chris4585 | I'd like to try the gnome3 fallback desktop, it looks.. the same as classic gnome but with some things fixed under the hood I hear | 23:09 |
| chris4585 | http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/classic-gnome-3-beta-2-video-no-shell.html | 23:10 |
| wrst | chris4585: that sounds nice | 23:11 |
| chris4585 | I really like the new adwaita theme for gtk3 | 23:11 |
| wrst | yes me too | 23:11 |
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