[00:00] <b1lly> how do i "run" it?
[00:00] <b1lly> is it just sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload ?
[00:00] <amebix> through the term?
[00:00] <ricorx7> yes
[00:00] <Mrwootwoot> can anyone help me installing gnomenu?
[00:00] <Mrwootwoot> here's what i get
[00:00] <Mrwootwoot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/583582/
[00:01] <Mrwootwoot> using 10.10
[00:01] <thatguyjay> te is that what you were referencing as in "last line"?
[00:01] <tbruff13> netech, hello
[00:01] <ricorx7> Mrwootwoot: did you do "make" first
[00:01] <ricorx7> not enough info to tell what you are doing with make install
[00:02] <specialmoose> question, im running dual monitors with an nvidia card. whenever I launch a program that has a loading screen (openoffice for example) the loading screen is not on the center/center of the screen but at the far end/center of the screen. anyway to fix this/
[00:02] <Mrwootwoot> ricorx7, no i thought make was step 3
[00:02] <thatguyjay> te stop wasting my time if you're just gonna be intentionally redundant
[00:02] <daniel> how do i change my screen resalution
[00:02] <tbruff13> okay anyway what does dpkg do
[00:02] <daniel> ?
[00:02] <ricorx7> do ls on the folder on your desktop and paste it
[00:03] <amebix> anyone have a Samsung I9000 galaxy S?
[00:03] <thatguyjay> te, we estabilished in the very beginning that i was able to connect to VPN just fine, so i think i'd know that by now
[00:03] <netech> tbruff13: what is it you're trying to do?
[00:03] <netech> find the package that provides util-linux-ng?
[00:03] <tbruff13> get the program portablelinux to run
[00:03] <tbruff13> and i need to satisfy dependices
[00:03] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, looks like your file is not on desktop
[00:03] <netech> $ apt-cache search util-linux
[00:03] <Mrwootwoot> but i saved it onto there hiexpo
[00:04] <netech> that gives you a list of packages to install for util--linux
[00:04] <netech> util-linux*
[00:04] <ricorx7> Mrwootwoot: do "ls" on the folder on your desktop
[00:04] <tbruff13> http://rudd-o.com/new-projects/portablelinux
[00:04] <daniel> how do i change my screen resultion
[00:04] <netech> you can then do $ sudo apt-get install util-linux
[00:04] <thatguyjay> te, you feel like a big man coming in here and insulting novices who politely ask for simple help and only offense being they don't know as much as you?
[00:04] <Mrwootwoot> ricorx7,  what is ls?
[00:04] <Mrwootwoot> sorry i'm new :(
[00:04] <tbruff13> i was told to download source and compile but how do i do this
[00:04] <ricorx7> Mrwootwoot: in console, it will list all files and folders
[00:04] <disappearedng> Hey anyone here can recommend me something like dropbox to keep my music library synced between my laptop and computer (doesn't have to be cloud storage, just automatic syncing) I know I can use rsync but I am pretty sure there are existing solution out there
[00:04] <netech> tbruff13: what's wrong with installing from the provided deb file on that site?
[00:05] <tbruff13> disappearedng, ubuntu one
[00:05] <tbruff13> i get an error
[00:05] <tbruff13> when i try to make a flash drive
[00:05] <netech> what error?
[00:05] <disappearedng> tbruff13: that's cloud though
[00:05] <tbruff13> dont have it anymore
[00:06] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, what is it a tar file
[00:06] <tbruff13> let me see ill install it and run it and wait
[00:06] <thatguyjay> i miss the days when people were actually HELPFUL in here, not simply insulted people who didnt know everything they did lol
[00:06] <disappearedng> did you rtfquestion?
[00:06] <tbruff13> intripid or hearty
[00:06] <tbruff13> netech,
[00:06] <netech> yes?
[00:06] <tbruff13> hearty or intrepid package
[00:07] <te> thatguyjay: Did  you get it yet?
[00:07] <netech> how should I know? it's your operating system
[00:07] <Mrwootwoot> hiexpo, yeah it's a tar.gz but hold on it's gone lemme download it again
[00:07] <tbruff13> netech, i have 10.10
[00:07] <netech> maverick
[00:07] <tbruff13> yes
[00:07] <tbruff13> there is no maverick
[00:08] <brightspark> netech: the page has no download link for a .deb past jaunty.
[00:08] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, download it to your home folder
[00:08] <thatguyjay> te, screw you,,, and just so you know i'm not even pissed, i dont let low life loosers like yourself get to me lol, but i do still enjoy letting you know what a piece of sh** you kinda people are
[00:08] <Mrwootwoot> hiexpo, ok let me move it there i just put it onto my desktop
[00:08] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, ok
[00:08] <tbruff13> hey thatguyjay  dont be mean
[00:08] <rww> !attitude | thatguyjay
[00:09] <en1gma> anyone know if ubuntu works with an old intel cs110 webcam?
[00:09] <Mrwootwoot> hiexpo, done but i dunno how to do a "ls" on it
[00:09] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, after you have it there right ckick and untar it there
[00:09] <te> thatguyjay: Did you get it yet? Can we help you any further?
[00:09] <en1gma> i never used a webcam in ubuntu so i dont even know how to check if its working
[00:09] <tbruff13> ts, its okay i think your nice
[00:10] <rww> te: best to drop it
[00:10] <Mrwootwoot> hiexpo, untar = extract?
[00:10] <tbruff13> te
[00:10] <tbruff13> sorry
[00:10] <hiexpo> en1gma, sudo apt-get install cheese
[00:10] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, yes
[00:10]  * thatguyjay slaps te in the face with a fish and then shoves it up his/her ass
[00:10] <tbruff13> anyway how do i get portable linux to work
[00:10] <en1gma> now im scared
[00:10] <en1gma> is there really an app called cheese
[00:10] <Mrwootwoot> k got it hiexpo
[00:10] <hiexpo> en1gma, yes
[00:10] <rww> Anyways, back to Ubuntu support :)
[00:11] <en1gma> ok i got to hook up my lan cord and boot in ubuntu live cd
[00:11] <te> tbruff13: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[00:11] <hiexpo> now open that folder is there a readme or intall file
[00:11] <Mrwootwoot> hiexpo, do i need to move the gnomenu to the desktop now?
[00:11] <en1gma> do i need to install a driver for that old camera or is it included
[00:11] <EllaRose19> lolllll   http://goo.gl/8n8xj
[00:12] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, no hold on is this something you are tring to install right
[00:12] <Mrwootwoot> yes
[00:12] <tbruff13> te, how im on ubuntu
[00:12] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, ok one secwhered ya get the file so i can get it and look at it also
[00:12] <lucas-arg> is there a way to make gtk apps use kde theme on kubuntu? ive installed oxygen-molecule but its not working...
[00:13] <Mrwootwoot> https://launchpad.net/gnomenu/
[00:13] <Mrwootwoot> hiexpo,
[00:13] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, ok one sec
[00:13] <Mrwootwoot> thanks hiexpo
[00:13] <tbruff13> te, what program can i run from ubuntu persistance and a fast boot is all i want is that possible because unetbootin doesnt have persistance
[00:14] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, ok what is it you are trying to do ?
[00:15] <tbruff13> te, hello
[00:15] <Mrwootwoot> hiexpo, um.. dont kill me....
[00:15] <Mrwootwoot> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJpawpvjx8w
[00:16] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, one sec
[00:16] <tbruff13> te, can i use wine to run one of the windows programs
[00:18] <tbruff13> hello how do i make a program running in wine see my flash drive
[00:18] <sedulous> How many gigabytes of disk space would you reserve for a standard ubuntu installation? The user won't store any personal data and will mostly use Firefox to browse the web. 10 GB?
[00:19] <aeon-ltd> sedulous: 12gb incase they want to, or install stuff
[00:19] <sedulous> tbruff13: you can mount your flash drive and use winecfg to add a "drive letter" for it
[00:19] <sedulous> aeon-ltd: if they don't want to, 10 GB is enough?
[00:19] <aeon-ltd> sedulous: should be
[00:19] <Mrwootwoot>  sedulous i was able to install it onto a 2GB thumb drive
[00:19] <sedulous> good good
[00:19] <sedulous> thank you
[00:20] <tbruff13> sedulous how
[00:20] <sedulous> (it's supposed to become a system for guests who just want to use the web)
[00:20] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, ok before you go any further did you run the commands the video showed   you ?    next open terminal and type sudo apt-get install checkinstall
[00:21] <sedulous> tbruff13: mount it / use it on your linux host, then run winecfg and add a "windows drive", pointing to the path of your flahs drive
[00:21] <sedulous> s/flahs/flash/
[00:21] <Mrwootwoot> hiexpo, yeah i had followed the instructions all the way up until he said to install gnomenu
[00:21] <Mrwootwoot> but i only got to step 2 on there
[00:22] <tbruff13> sedulous, wait what
[00:22] <tbruff13> lost me i get you a little bit
[00:22] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, ok do what i said open terminal and paste that command i gave you
[00:22] <Mrwootwoot> processing now
[00:22] <Mrwootwoot> done
[00:23] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, ok type clear
[00:23] <Mrwootwoot> blank page
[00:23] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, good
[00:23] <tbruff13> ok wine mounted it thanks
[00:24] <hiexpo> mrw ok type cd gnomenu
[00:24] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, ok type cd gnomenu
[00:25] <Mrwootwoot> bash: cd: gnomenu: No such file or directory hiexpo
[00:25] <hiexpo> is it in your home directory Mrwootwoot
[00:25] <Mrwootwoot> yep
[00:25] <meta_circular> I have a silly question, I'm trying to append to another user's .profile.  I can't seem to do it even when I sudo.  I tried something like this: sudo echo 'hi' >> .profile
[00:25] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, did you extract it
[00:25] <Mrwootwoot> i did
[00:26] <te> tbruff13: You are using 10.10
[00:26] <te> ?
[00:26] <tbruff13> yels
[00:26] <tbruff13> yes
[00:26] <Mrwootwoot> i was about to move it to the desktop but you said to hold on
[00:26] <tbruff13> te, sorry
[00:26] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, try again cd gnomenu
[00:26] <Mrwootwoot> so it's still in home
[00:26] <morph_> hi guys
[00:26] <tbruff13> i am trying to use the windows drive creator in wine
[00:27] <morph_> do u know ho to insert a text in file whit terminal?
[00:27] <Mrwootwoot> same thing hiexpo
[00:27] <tbruff13> how do i format my flash drive to fat32 i see fat but no fat32
[00:27] <tbruff13> te, you there
[00:27] <[thor]> tbruff13: go to #winehq for help with wine
[00:27] <te> tbruff13: Do you have a partition on it?
[00:27] <Mrwootwoot> hiexpo, hold on it's gone again
[00:28] <tbruff13> te, partition yes
[00:28] <Mrwootwoot> downloading it a 3rd time hiexpo
[00:28] <te> tbruff13: Then use mkfs.vfat and format it.
[00:29] <tbruff13> te, huh
[00:29] <te> tbruff13: But are you sure it's not already fat32?
[00:29] <tbruff13> how do i tell te
[00:29] <te> tbruff13: sudo fdisk -l
[00:29] <Mrwootwoot> wierd... it keeps asking me if i want to overwrite the file but i don't see the file anywhere hiexpo
[00:29] <bastidrazor> meta_circular: sudo and >> will not work.. use something like echo "stuff" | sudo tee -a filename  .. if you need sudo to edit 'filename'
[00:29] <Mrwootwoot> but i extracted it and did cd and it worked
[00:30] <meta_circular> bastidrazor: cool let me try that. thanks
[00:30] <a> hello
[00:30] <xBlueprint> sup
[00:30] <tbruff13> yes it is oops ok ill try and do it now
[00:30] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, open your home folder and see if there is a folder named Mrwootwoot
[00:31] <te> tbruff13: but I do not see anything for 10.10 at https://launchpad.net/~portablelinux/+archive/ppa
[00:31] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, than the tar is there
[00:31] <Guest13050> Is it possible to edit Indicator Applet Session? I want to remove Lock screen button (without disabling it of course)!
[00:31] <Mrwootwoot> hiexpo, i dont have a mrwootwoot file but in the terminal i got cd to work... i just had to downaload it again
[00:31] <tbruff13> te, ok then is it possible to get persistance with anyother program that is written for linux why is this so hard
[00:32] <Mrwootwoot> kewlguy@kewlguy-GA-MA790XT-UD4P:~/gnomenu$
[00:32] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, ok so now you cd to dir
[00:32] <Guest13050> o.o
[00:33] <b1lly> whats the cmd line to create a new dir / file?
[00:33] <solid_liq> is anyone else experiencing strange behavior since the latest update to 10.04LTS?  Like, having to enter your password twice in a row to unlock the screen from the screensaver, and gwibber-service using 100% cpu?
[00:34] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot,  cd gnomenu
[00:35] <tbruff13> te, hello
[00:35] <Mrwootwoot> hiexpo, done
[00:35] <hiexpo> ok in terminal type sudo checkinstall
[00:36] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, in same terminal type sudo checkinstall
[00:36] <Mrwootwoot> Should I create a default set of package docs?  [y]:
[00:36] <hiexpo> y
[00:36] <Mrwootwoot> that's the line that popped up
[00:37] <hiexpo> yes
[00:37] <hiexpo> hit y
[00:37] <Mrwootwoot> says to write a description of the package
[00:37] <lvh> Hello! Is there a way to tell apt-get/aptitude to reinstall a particular packages, recursively including dependencies, even if they are currently installed (with a higher version, and that version is no longer installable)
[00:37] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, just hit enter
[00:37] <lvh> Basically, replace existing packages with highest currently-installable version.
[00:37] <Mrwootwoot> k
[00:38] <Mrwootwoot> do i need to change any values?
[00:38] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, no just hit enter
[00:39] <whizken> how do you get a read only filesystem to act executable even when sudo chmod won't work?
[00:39] <Mrwootwoot> hiexpo, the new package has been installed and saved
[00:39] <exutux> lvh: sudo apt-get install --reinstall pack_name
[00:39] <tbruff13> programs like startup disk creator
[00:39] <te> tbruff13: I don't see anything for 10.10. You should take it up with the developers. See: https://launchpad.net/~portablelinux
[00:39] <lvh> exutux: No, --reinstall refuses to downgrade.
[00:40] <Mrwootwoot> so now just continue with the youtube video hiexpo ?
[00:40] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, ok goodnow finish following the guys tutorial it's installed
[00:40] <tbruff13> ok te, how do i compile it
[00:40] <Mrwootwoot> thanks man
[00:40] <tbruff13> from the tarball
[00:40] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, np
[00:40] <vyrus001> what package holds the isohybrid bin?
[00:40] <exutux> lvh: but higher version is on an external repo?
[00:40] <lvh> exutux: Which is broken.
[00:40] <hiexpo> Mrwootwoot, you can delete that tarball and the folder it creared from yourhome folder also
[00:40] <lvh> And I removed that repo, so apt should be blissfully unaware.
[00:40] <fabio333> a question about dual boot... with ubuntu and win7  and 320gb hd
[00:41] <lvh> Instead of downloading the latest version it knows of now, which is what I want (a downgrade)...
[00:41] <aeon-ltd> fabio333: shoot
[00:41] <fabio333> it it true that the last partition is slower?
[00:42] <exutux> lvh: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get update && and try reinstall ( so but do you have removed and purged that package, befor revoved repo? )
[00:43] <tbruff13> ok the program is running te if i get an error i will see if you can help me
[00:43] <lvh> exutux: Nope, that doesn't work -- that just says it can't find the package to reinstall with -- refuses to downgrade because of it ..
[00:43] <exutux> lvh: ok do you have only removed that package before trying reinstall?
[00:44] <Guest13050> http://i55.tinypic.com/30dfi3m.png I want to remove the lock screen thing or just remove CTRL+ALT+L thing
[00:45] <fabio333> better to have ubuntu at the end of the hdd or at the start?
[00:46] <Guest13050> fabio333: isnt the same?
[00:46] <Guest13050> i just use beginning
[00:46] <mrdeb> how do you switch workspaces with the kyeboard
[00:46] <Guest13050> mrdeb: ctrl+alt+arrow
[00:46] <tbruff13> hey can someone help me with an erreor
[00:46] <tbruff13> error
[00:46] <tbruff13> from portable linux
[00:46] <tbruff13> usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: This msdos-style partition label has no post-MBR gap; embedding won't be possible!.
[00:46] <tbruff13> /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged..
[00:46] <tbruff13> /usr/sbin/grub-setup: error: if you really want blocklists, use --force.
[00:46] <FloodBot3> tbruff13: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:46] <Guest13050> !ask | tbruff13
[00:46] <fabio333> hdparm -t /dev/sda gives a better result now...
[00:47] <Guest13050> fabio333: what does that do
[00:47] <Guest13050> oops
[00:47] <Guest13050> checking the -t
[00:48] <lvh> exutux: Nope, haven't done anything to it yet.
[00:48] <lvh> Removed all of them now, seeing what that gives.
[00:48] <fabio333> Guest13050, tell me the result
[00:48] <tbruff13> ok i will try again i am trying to find a way to boot ubuntu from a flash drive quickly with persistance but i cant do it from unetbootin and startup disk creator boots to slowly please help me find a program or make a program called portable linux work in 10.10
[00:48] <Guest13050> fabio333: but you do that without disk activity right? and how long does it take?
[00:49] <fabio333> few seconds
[00:49] <tbruff13> hello
[00:49] <fizyplankton> does anyone know how to get an external graphics card and onboard graphics working at the same time?
[00:49] <needlez> has anyone been able to get pam_tally or pam_tally2 to work correctly?? and if so can you help me setup pam_tally?? and please no links, i've looked through links for like 2 weeks now
[00:49] <tbruff13> ok this is a dependency i need for my program to work can someone tell me how to get this sfdisk from the util-linux-ng package
[00:50] <Guest13050> fabio333: what is a "better result"
[00:50] <mrdeb> are workspaces useful for anything? why ont just minimize things
[00:50] <Guest13050> mrdeb: of course they are
[00:50] <Guest13050> mrdeb: you can have a workspace for study
[00:50] <Guest13050> mrdeb: another one for porn etc
[00:50] <mrdeb> what
[00:51] <Guest13050> (just an example)
[00:51] <fabio333> Guest13050, the higher the better
[00:51] <Guest13050> or for virtual machines
[00:51] <jmwpc> I would think porn would occupy 2 workspaces all by itself.
[00:51] <Guest13050> lol
[00:52] <Guest13050> Is there a way to edit this menu? http://i55.tinypic.com/30dfi3m.png ?
[00:52] <solid_liq> is anyone else experiencing strange behavior since the latest update to 10.04LTS?  Like, having to enter your password twice in a row to unlock the screen from the screensaver, and gwibber-service using 100% cpu?
[00:52] <Guest13050> solid_liq: sudo apt-get remove --purge gwibber
[00:52] <Guest13050> :p
[00:53] <solid_liq> Guest13050, are you sure that won't break something?
[00:53] <Guest13050> solid_liq: it just uninstall gwibber... I did it lol
[00:54] <mrdeb> so what you are saying is that you have 10 workspaces with adult conent
[00:54] <mrdeb> and 1 work space
[00:54] <solid_liq> Guest13050, I know it does that, but gwibber is integrated into the taskbar in ubuntu now
[00:55] <solid_liq> Guest13050, it didn't break anything for you?
[00:55] <Guest13050> solid_liq: or just disable gwibber service from boot
[00:55] <solid_liq> hrm, I'll give it a try, thanks :)
[00:55] <Guest13050> solid_liq: no lol
[00:55] <Guest13050> solid_liq: try sudo rcconf
[00:55] <vyrus001> i have installed syslinux and still to not have the isohybrid application, is it not in syslinux any more?
[00:55] <tbruff13> help
[00:55] <Guest13050> it's quick and easy
[00:55] <Guest13050> !ask | tbruff13
[00:56] <Guest13050> !help | TrevorP
[00:56] <Guest13050> oops
[00:56] <aplund> I have some packages listed as "local or obsolete" such as libplist1 and libusbmuxd1, when I try to remove them they want to remove ubuntu-desktop.  Does anyone know why this might be the case?
[00:56] <bastidrazor> tbruff13: its in util-linux  :without the -ng
[00:57] <bastidrazor> !find sfdisk
[00:57] <tbruff13> k
[00:57] <Guest13050> aplund: it won't do any harm..
[00:57] <aplund> to remove ubuntu-desktop!?!
[00:58] <Guest13050> aplund: because it's not a real package
[00:58] <aplund> hmm
[00:58] <Guest13050> just ignore the warning
[00:58] <aplund> it wants to remove gnome-session and gnome-power-manger and gdm as well
[00:58] <aplund> and a whole lot of other things
[00:58] <Guest13050> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[00:59] <tbruff13> bastidrazor, i get an error
[00:59] <tbruff13> in the portablelinux program
[01:00] <needlez> has anyone been able to get pam_tally or pam_tally2 to work correctly?? and if so can you help me setup pam_tally?? and please no links, i've looked through links for like 2 weeks now
[01:00] <Guest13050> aplund: i dont have ubuntu-desktop installed and everything works
[01:00] <pbear> hi, i have an ubuntu on vmware but i can't log in remotely unless i'm already logged in on the vmware's ubuntu. where is the setting that can let me log in even if the vm isn't logged in?
[01:00] <tbruff13> http://paste.ubuntu.com/583595/
[01:00] <Guest13050> aplund: "This package depends on all of the packages in the Ubuntu desktop system"
[01:00] <tbruff13> thats the error please help
[01:01] <bastidrazor> tbruff13: portablelinux.. as in the OS?
[01:01] <Guest13050> tbruff13: you want to fix grub?
[01:01] <tbruff13> no as in the program
[01:01] <bastidrazor> tbruff13: portablelinux is not a package available in the repositories.
[01:02] <tbruff13> a program to put ubuntu on flash drive with presistence is all i ask for something that boots faster than startup disk creator
[01:02] <tbruff13> portable linux is a program i found
[01:02] <aplund> well.. I'm not sure I want to remove those other packages
[01:02] <Guest13050> aplund: ask bastidrazor he knows it
[01:02] <tbruff13> http://rudd-o.com/new-projects/portablelinux
[01:02] <tbruff13> there
[01:02] <tbruff13> but there is no 10.10 package so help or find another program please ive been at this for hours
[01:03] <exutux> tbruff13: why you don't use usb-creator?
[01:03] <bastidrazor> aplund: then don't. are the packages creating issues? if not is there a reason to remove them?
[01:03] <aplund> bastidrazor: not really.  They are using some small amount of space on a space limited drive
[01:03] <bastidrazor> tbruff13: did you compile this program for 10.10?
[01:04] <Guest13050> aplund: r u using sudo apt-get remove right
[01:04] <tbruff13> it boots to slow and i dont want to ever install ubuntu i have it on my home laptop i will be using this usb at school unetbootin boots faster but no presistance i want something with a little of both
[01:04] <dMaggot>  76075
[01:04] <aplund> Guest13050: Synaptic
[01:04] <tbruff13> bastidrazor, how do you compile
[01:04] <bastidrazor> ubottu: tell tbruff13 about compile
[01:04] <exutux> tbruff13: usb-creator makes persistent live usb...
[01:05] <Guest13050> aplund: remove or remove all?
[01:05] <vyrus001> exutux: do you know why the isohybrid would not be part of syslinux?
[01:05] <vyrus001> ive got it installed but dont have the command
[01:05] <tbruff13> bastidrazor, i know it is alot to ask but please help me compile im sorry but PLEASE ive been at this for an hour and a half
[01:05] <exutux> vyrus001: no, I don't
[01:05] <aplund> Guest13050: Purging to try and reclaim as much space as possible
[01:05] <nwntas> how can i change the font in liferea?
[01:06] <KB1JWQ> tbruff13: What's busted?
[01:06] <Guest13050> aplund: I dont think you can remove that package wait a sec
[01:06] <tbruff13> huh
[01:06] <bastidrazor> tbruff13: that page is a decent guide to compiling.
[01:07] <tbruff13> i know but please i will read the page but if i need you i will call
[01:08] <_antant> Is there any brand of gefore 210 that anyone would recommend over another?
[01:08] <Guest13050> aplund: I dont know why if u remove libusbmuxd1 it tries to uninstall gdm gnome-session etc
[01:08] <Guest13050> they dont depend on it i think
[01:08] <aplund> Guest13050: Hence why I'm here
[01:08] <Guest13050> hm wait
[01:08] <nwntas> can someone tell me how to change the font in liferea? thanks
[01:09] <Guest13050> aplund: check GDM dependecies..
[01:09] <Guest13050> aplund: right click and properties..
[01:09] <tbruff13> bastidrazor, i dont understand this
[01:09] <tbruff13> PLEASE walk me through it im frustrated beyond belief
[01:10] <aplund> Guest13050: Nothing there that suggests why this is breaking
[01:10] <Guest13050> yeah I see .s
[01:10] <Guest13050> tbruff13: what do you want to do exactly?
[01:11] <tbruff13> compile the program at http://rudd-o.com/new-projects/portablelinux to work with 10.10 please help
[01:11] <tbruff13> walk me through it if you can please
[01:12] <Guest13050> damn
[01:12] <Guest13050> I Need to sleep gl
[01:12] <Gnea> tbruff13: to be fair, it would be better if you went and chilled out for awhile - do something else, then come back when you aren't as frustrated.  You'll only frustrate whoever tries to help you, thus frustrating yourself even further.
[01:12] <bastidrazor> tbruff13: you haven't even remotely tried. the file has a setup.pl script that does it all for you.
[01:13] <yongua> necesito ayuda para la clave canaimita de segundo grado
[01:13] <tbruff13> bastidrazor, i clicked on that but nothing happens and i was just worried about messing something up im sorry
[01:13] <syrinx_> !es | yongua
[01:13] <intelligentfool> can anyone help me out? i'm trying to figure out if my nic went bad or if i can change some config to get my connection working again. "sudo ifconfig -a" doesn't list my physical nic, what else can i try?
[01:13] <nwntas> can someone tell me how to change the font in liferea?
[01:13] <tbruff13> bastidrazor, i will try
[01:13] <bastidrazor> tbruff13: i will not hand hold. read the page on how to untar the tar.gz file then run the setup.py in the directory it creates
[01:14] <te> intelligentfool: lspci
[01:14] <syrinx_> nwntas: theres a #liferea channel, I think
[01:14] <Gnea> tbruff13: perl files don't get clicked on, you need to learn how to use the command line in the terminal. the patience required to help you through it is something I don't have at this time.
[01:15] <yongua> thanks....
[01:15] <syrinx_> no problem
[01:15] <nwntas> syrinx_: i just joined and ask there, seconds before you suggeste it. thanks anyway
[01:15] <syrinx_> :)
[01:16] <futr_vision> I need to acess Ubuntu through Windows 7. Any suggestions?
[01:16] <aplund> ok fixe
[01:16] <tbruff13> bastidrazor, im sorry okay i have tried that nothing happens when i click on it it asks me to run i am sorry you dont want to hand hold but i dont know how to run that setup.py i click and nothing happens does this mean i need a command and if so where can i find that command i am not trying to be mean, but for someone who has tried for an hour with other programs and everything im just a little lost
[01:17] <intelligentfool> Te i dont see my nic listed after viewing lspci..... reseat the nic and on no change, get a new one?
[01:17] <syrinx_> futr_vision: How exactly, do you want to do it
[01:17] <aplund> the problem was that older versions were confusing the system and thinking they were actually newer
[01:17] <tpw_rules> soo, i have this vm but i've forgotten the root password and don't know of any other accounts
[01:17] <syrinx_> intelligentfool: sounds like it
[01:17] <tpw_rules> i don't think i ever set up root anyway
[01:17] <tpw_rules> what to do?
[01:17] <futr_vision> syrinx: Doesn't really matter to me. I'm used to useing LogMeIn for my windows systems.
[01:17] <syrinx_> tpw_rules: if you didn't set the root password then there probably isn't one
[01:17] <tpw_rules> syrinx_: what other accounts should i try?
[01:18] <tbruff13> i really am sorry im only in high school and im trying and i want to learn i plan on making programming my job when i grow up so please just help me this once
[01:18] <bastidrazor> tbruff13: actually.. you don't compile anything. there is an executable in the portablelinux directory created from the tar.gz: click the portablelinux file
[01:18] <intelligentfool> dumb question but a NIC should show up as "Network controller: bla bla bla" on lspci, right?
[01:18] <te> intelligentfool: Yes, it must be broke. Get a new one.
[01:18] <tbruff13> i do and it runs but when i try to create a disk i get an error
[01:18] <bastidrazor> tbruff13: then you should submit a bug  to them
[01:18] <intelligentfool> te: thanks, just wanted to make sure it's not listed as something else.... if i pastebin would someone mind double checking?
[01:19] <pbear> hi, i have an ubuntu on vmware but i can't log in remotely unless i'm already logged in on the vmware's ubuntu. where is the setting that can let me log in even if the vm isn't logged in?
[01:19] <syrinx_> futr_vision: theres a few things you can do, do you want to just access the ubuntu computer from win7, or you want the whole remote desktop experience?
[01:19] <AndChat> My child hit the power off button while 9.10 was updating to 10.04, is there a way to finish install
[01:19] <intelligentfool> heh, nm, no easy way to pastebin a machine with no nic :)
[01:19] <te> intelligentfool: Yes, it should show up as Network Controller. What does ifconfig say?
[01:19] <tbruff13> ok
[01:19] <tpw_rules> is there any way to get a list of users from the login prompt?
[01:19] <syrinx_> tpw_rules: I don't know, the one you created with the installation, I guess
[01:19] <futr_vision> syrinx_:I'd probably want the whole desktop experience.
[01:20] <tpw_rules> i either don't remember what it was or don't remember the password
[01:20] <intelligentfool> te: i get some communication controller and that's abouot it as far as stuff that looks like it might be a nic
[01:20] <dualcore> what is the easiest mail server to run ?
[01:20] <AndChat> Anyone?
[01:20] <mjs> AndChat, can you get to the cli?
[01:20] <Ferris-> ran usb-creater.exe as administrator on windows 7, and it fails to write the bootloader...
[01:20] <AndChat> Cli?
[01:21] <Ferris-> could it be the filesystem? does the usb-creater not know how to format the flashdrive?
[01:21] <mjs> AndChat, command line
[01:21] <intelligentfool> also, my cisco router isn't showing an errors on its side, which makes it weird
[01:21] <te> intelligentfool: What does ifconfig say?
[01:21] <tpw_rules> found it!
[01:21] <te> intelligentfool: Does it give you a section for eth0 or only lo?
[01:21] <syrinx_> futr_vision: You may be able to just enable remote desktop and connect with the RDP program built into windows
[01:21] <intelligentfool> te: ifconfig -a just gives the loopback
[01:22] <syrinx_> if it still has one, anyway
[01:22] <AndChat> Yes, on command line now
[01:22] <bastidrazor> dualcore: postfix
[01:22] <Todd200> Wow ubuntu is so much better than windows
[01:22] <futr_vision> syrinx_: I'm completely new to Ubuntu. Where do I start?
[01:22] <te> intelligentfool: Ok, then I suggest just changing to a new or different network card.
[01:22] <submain> Todd200: did you just install it?
[01:22] <syrinx_> futr_vision: do you have both computers in the same house/office so you can configure both machines?
[01:22] <intelligentfool> any recommendations for nic's if i want to do dot1q or something fancy?
[01:23] <mjs> AndChat, kinda a newb/idiot, so please dont hate me if i lead you astray....sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:23] <futr_vision> syrin_: yes
[01:23] <futr_vision> syrynx_ : yes
[01:23] <Todd200> submain: have had it for about a week now, switched from wubi to removing windows this afternoon
[01:23] <AndChat> Its doin stuff
[01:24] <syrinx_> futr_vision: in Ubuntu, go to System>Preferences>Remote Desktop
[01:24] <AndChat> Is someone having rdp issues
[01:24] <syrinx_> AndChat: He wants to set up RDP between Ubuntu and Win7
[01:24] <AndChat> Use teamviewer
[01:24] <futr_vision> syrnx_: Got it. I have an IP address.
[01:24] <Cpudan80> that doesnt do RDP AndChat
[01:25] <EmuAlert> Is there any way to have the computer to prompt for your password before it boots everything up? Some of my startup applications don't work right because I haven't properly logged in yet and don't automatically correct themselves when I do
[01:25] <Cpudan80> RDP is natively supported (for viewing) in Ubuntu
[01:25] <Cpudan80> !rdp
[01:25] <syrinx_> futr_vision: set it up however you want
[01:25] <dualcore> i tried to setup postfix before but it was really difficult for me.  is there a gui for setting up postfix and managing accounts that doesn't compromise security?
[01:26] <futr_vision> syrnx_:How do I access from Windows 7? Any ideas?
[01:26] <AndChat> Running sudo configure seems to have resumed the instLl
[01:26] <syrinx_> futr_vision: Win7 has a built in Remote Desktop program, it's in Accessories I think
[01:26] <Todd200> Any neat tweaks to speed up ubuntu? (i try to squeeze every bit of speed out if my laptop)
[01:27] <timClicks> can someone help me with my syntax? am trying to get convert to read from stdout
[01:27] <timClicks> pdftoppm meh.pdf | convert -format "jpeg"
[01:27] <intelligentfool> anyone here used openstack?
[01:28] <joeyr> todd200: There's something you can do with firefox to make it faster where you turn on pipelining and up the number of max requests
[01:29] <syrinx_> or use Chromium Todd200 :)
[01:29] <holybit> whats the difference between installing firefox by hand or having Snyaptic handle it?
[01:29] <kevinkonrad> syrinx_: already do, and I put my cache in ram for speed :)
[01:30] <syrinx_> 0_o
[01:30] <kevinkonrad> holybit: don't think there's any, your choice,
[01:31] <holybit> kevinkonrad: i just don't want to wait for them to port 4 to synaptic, but maybe i am missing some reason to use synaptic?
[01:32] <kevinkonrad> syrinx_: my laptop has an i7 and 8gb of ram, Im trying to cache more stiff in ram for speed
[01:32] <zippp> is there anyway to boot ubuntu into a console? Is there an fkey to do that?
[01:32] <syrinx_> thats a heck of a laptop
[01:32] <zippp> I'm stuck on "Checking battery state..."
[01:33] <esco> i'm running ubunut 10.10 through virtual box (first time) and i can't seem to get it to find any wi-fi.  what can i do?
[01:33] <esco> ubuntu*
[01:33] <piercedwater> Does anyone know of a way to search id3 tags from the cli in ubuntu?
[01:33] <kevinkonrad> syrinx_: yes it is, best computer ever
[01:34] <kevinkonrad> esco: it says no access points in range?
[01:34] <shaneo> excuse me but how may i find broken packages on my system?
[01:35] <kevinkonrad> shaneo: sudo apt-get autoremove
[01:35] <esco> kevinkonrad - it seems its not even using my wireless card
[01:35] <shaneo> thank you
[01:35] <esco> im on a macbook pro
[01:35]  * kevinkonrad is not a Mac person O.o
[01:35] <syrinx_> well theres your problem
[01:35] <esco> hmm
[01:36] <kevinkonrad> syrinx_: ?
[01:36] <esco> well thanks anyway kevinkonrad
[01:36] <syrinx_> theres something you have to install to get airport working,forget what it is though
[01:36] <esco> oh
[01:36] <kevinkonrad> ^ has better advice
[01:37] <_antant> I'm getting a GT210. Will it make much difference if I get an asus or an msi one?
[01:37] <syrinx_> esco: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook4-1/Maverick#AirPort
[01:37] <kevinkonrad> _antant: msi?
[01:40] <_antant> msi
[01:40] <_antant> yes
[01:40] <esco> thanks syrinx_, but that's still not working
[01:40] <syrinx_> _antant: i'd go with the MSI myself
[01:40] <_antant> cool
[01:40] <_antant> ta
[01:40] <esco> ubuntu isn't finding it
[01:41] <syrinx_> esco: dunno then
[01:41] <joeyr> So yesterday I was trying to make a linux swap partition on my external, and now my whole external is swap. Anyone know of a good resizing tool?
[01:41] <kevinkonrad> esco: you enable the driver?
[01:41] <esco> how?
[01:41] <esco> it's not showing up in the "Additional Drivers" box
[01:42] <kevinkonrad> joeyr: gparted?
[01:43] <esco> nothing shows up in the additional drivers box
[01:43] <heg> esco: I don't think that you can setup wifi in vbox
[01:43] <esco> :(
[01:43] <joeyr> kevinkonrad: its funny because gparted didn't recognize the hd earlier but now it is showing up. I'll try to see if I can resize the partition so that only 5 gigs is swap
[01:44] <mjs> AndChat, is that working out?
[01:44] <edbian> joeyr, 5 gigs is still a very large swap
[01:46] <pbear> how do i ssh into an ubuntu virtual machine if i'm not logged onto it in virtual box?
[01:46] <lallenlowe> !ubottu
[01:46] <joeyr> edbian: It's a 500 gig external and I want to put linux on it.
[01:48] <kevinkonrad> !test
[01:48] <edbian> joeyr, Sure.  But I doubt you'll fill 5Gb.  It doesn't matter how big the drive is. Swap is filled when you use so many apps at once that they don't all fit in your ram.
[01:48]  * syrinx_ just changed his swap to 3gb
[01:48] <kevinkonrad> I disabled my swap
[01:49] <syrinx_> yea?
[01:49] <arielsanflo> alguien habla español
[01:49] <syrinx_> !es | arielsanflo
[01:49] <steelval3> OK i have a quick question regarding ubuntu netbook remix on my toshiba nb205 netbook
[01:49] <joeyr> edbian: 3 gigs good? would too large a swap end up being a bad thing?
[01:50] <studentb> ?
[01:50] <syrinx_> joeyr: no, it just frees up space
[01:50] <steelval3> when ever i start my computer, i have to hold down a key in order to get the computer to boot up
[01:50] <edbian> joeyr, Too big a swap is just a waste of space.  Since you have such a big hdd it hardly matters.  My swap is 1Gb
[01:50] <kevinkonrad> joeyr: how much mach ram does your pc hsve?
[01:50] <te> kevinkonrad: Why did you dissable your swap?
[01:50] <syrinx_> steelval3: so hold down the button...
[01:51] <kevinkonrad> te: bevause i have 8gb of ram
[01:51] <steelval3> haha its annoying i was hoping for a fix
[01:51] <joeyr> edbian: 2048 MB
[01:51] <te> kevinkonrad: Not a good reason.
[01:51] <kevinkonrad> te: how so?
[01:51] <syrinx_> steelval3: you sure it isn't a BIOS setting or something?
[01:51] <joeyr> I meant to rep;y to kevinkonrad oops
[01:52] <steelval3> its like something times out otherwise, i see the hdd light blink when i hold down shift, when i release it, the light stops blinking
[01:52] <ohzie> Is there a way to clear my dns resolver cache? Somewhat equivalent to ipconfig /flushdns ?
[01:52] <edbian> joeyr, that's fine
[01:52] <syrinx_> steelval3: 0_o
[01:53] <Guest54372>  Hi, folks, I want to install Fjalar(which is under Valgrind) into my Unbuntu 10.10(with glibc version 2.12.x), but the tools  only support glibc(2.0~2.10), then I donot know how to solve this? anyone who can provide an help?
[01:54] <steelval3> syrinx:  so no fix that you know of?
[01:54] <kevinkonrad> Seems like bios bug
[01:54] <syrinx_> ^
[01:54] <daniel> hey would some one pm me i have some stupid questions about ubuntu but a few of them im pretty sure there basic knowledge to soemone who has used linux /ubuntu for more then a year
[01:55] <syrinx_> !ask | daniel
[01:55] <pbear> how do i ssh into an ubuntu virtual machine if i'm not logged onto it in virtual box?
[01:55] <steelval3> sorry i'm a complete newb, so how could i fix it if it is a bios bug
[01:56] <daniel> well i just want to understand what gnome is and alterniatives and stuff like that
[01:56] <syrinx_> !gnome
[01:56] <syrinx_> !kde
[01:56] <syrinx_> that should get you started daniel
[01:56] <joeyr> edbian: swap partition is made. Now I'm gonna try to install linux on my hd.
[01:56] <edbian> joeyr, have fun!
[01:57] <daniel> wicth one would be the most user friend like i like gnome but i wanna know if there would be a better one to use maybe one that could give it more of a glossy feel
[01:57] <kevinkonrad> !Xfse
[01:57] <syrinx_> aww
[01:57] <syrinx_> !lxde
[01:57] <kevinkonrad> Whoops
[01:57] <AndChat> Still running I think
[01:57] <steelval3> syrinx:  if its a bios bug, do you have any suggestions?  i'm completely new to ubuntu, i apologize for simple questions
[01:58] <kevinkonrad> !xfce
[01:58] <syrinx_> the bios doesn't have anything to do with ubuntu steelval3
[01:58] <steelval3> gotcha haha
[01:58] <steelval3> alright thanks, i appreciate the help
[01:58] <djsudn> Hey, i'm wondering how I can make a script run before /home is mounted?
[01:58] <kevinkonrad> daniel: KDE is glossy but slower, xfce is rougher but faster
[01:59] <Mrwootwoot> does anyone know how to get a color fading effect on the top and bottom bars?
[02:00] <ohzie> Guest54372: Hey you should change your nick to something more memorable
[02:00] <mjs> daniel, kindof a newb myself, and have only used gnome and kde ...i think gnome is glossier and faster, but kde has some applications that i like better for either the interface or the functionality...fortunately, you can run both...
[02:00] <ohzie> Guest54372: You could make a chroot for the program
[02:00] <djsudn> hey, can someone help me? How can I make a script run before /home is mounted?
[02:00] <daniel> mjs, is it easy as installing it to swicth
[02:00] <ohzie> Guest54372: similar to how we chroot 32 bit programs into systems with 32 bit libraries, you could chroot that program into a faux-system with an older glibc
[02:00] <kevinkonrad> mjs: glossy = pretty, KDE is slower but prettier
[02:01] <daniel> mjs, or do i have to delete gnome first
[02:01] <daniel> is kde that much slower?
[02:01] <ohzie> daniel: Only if you use kwin
[02:01] <kevinkonrad> daniel: nit very much
[02:01] <syrinx_> kde stinks I you ask me, no offense to anyone out there
[02:01] <mjs> dancek, i run gnome, and then install the kde app that i like....(available through the repos)...
[02:01]  * djsudn is offended
[02:01] <syrinx_> lol, sorry
[02:02]  * djsudn slaps syrinx
[02:02] <djsudn> so how can I make a script run before /home is mounted?
[02:02] <mjs> daniel, i've heard tell of installing them both and then choosing at signon, but can't help you, as i've never done it...
[02:02] <te> syrinx_: That's a little over the top. (And it is OT).
[02:02] <fikri> hi guys..
[02:02] <kevinkonrad> syrinx_: i hate its widget system, makes it hard to manage your desktop
[02:03] <joeyr> "no root file system is defined. Please correct this from the partitioning menu" Anybody know how to fix that?
[02:03] <syrinx_> exactly kevinkonrad
[02:03] <mjs> kevinkonrad, subjective, but granted...
[02:03] <bastidrazor> joeyr: you need a partition for /
[02:03] <djsudn> pick the one you want as your linux partition, and for the path, put /
[02:03] <ohzie> mjs daniel: you can install the kubuntu-desktop package and just not switch to KDM from GDM, and then when you log in there's the 'session' menu, or something lke that, and you can switch between kde and gnome.
[02:04] <daniel> ok so jsut install both
[02:04] <joeyr> bastidrazor: So I have my swap file. The rest is unallocated free space. Do I specify the free space?
[02:04] <kevinkonrad> daniel: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:04] <djsudn> How do I make a script run at boot time? Preferably before /home is mounted?
[02:05] <kevinkonrad> What do you want to be your main file system partition (/)?
[02:05] <bastidrazor> joeyr: i don't know your setup. you need a partition for / .. do you know what the root partition is?
[02:05] <te> djsudn: What is your end goal?
[02:05] <te> djsudn: What do you want to accomplish?
[02:06] <mjs> ohzie, thank...your articulateness surpasses mine own...
[02:06] <daniel> with kde will i stil be able to use hot corners or w/e there called?
[02:06] <joeyr> bastidrazor: I don't know what the root partition is. I have my swap and my unallocated free space, and it won't let me install in the unallocated free space
[02:06] <bastidrazor> joeyr: / (root partition) is where the OS is installed.
[02:07] <te> joeyr: You need another partition for /
[02:07] <kevinkonrad> joeyr: tell it to use ext4, and when it says mount location choose /
[02:07] <kevinkonrad> Do this on the unallocated free space
[02:07] <te> joeyr: You can't install anything on free, unpartitioned space.
[02:08] <joeyr> bastidrazor: I was just clicking around and I believe I go to add and choose "/" from the menu. I might just have it :)
[02:08] <kevinkonrad> joeyr: that is correct
[02:09] <joeyr> kevinkonrad: "use as" should I choose "ext4 journaling file system"?
[02:09] <djsudn> te ya there?
[02:10] <te> djsudn: Yea...
[02:10] <joeyr> kevinkonrad: o woops just saw what you said above
[02:10] <kevinkonrad> joeyr: yes, best file system by far
[02:10] <te> djsudn: What is it  you want to accomplish?
[02:11] <kevinkonrad> joeyr: it working?
[02:11] <te> djsudn: If you tell us exactly what you want to do, we might be able to help you figure out how to get it done.
[02:12] <joeyr> kevinkonrad: I'm about to hit the "install now" so I'll let you know in a second :)
[02:13] <jbjohnson> hey all, is one of the differences between server and desktop edition is that you can't access the desktop edition remotely unless you are already logged in?
[02:14] <kevinkonrad> jbjohnson: not sure, server comes no desktop manager /GUI
[02:15] <kevinkonrad> joeyr: it working :)?
[02:15] <joeyr> Thank you guys for your help! It appears to be working. The next thing I'm going to do after this is done is to repurpose a USB drive for "plop linux" so that way it can boot automatically to the hard drive. so stoked...
[02:16] <kevinkonrad> Enjoy :), I gtg
[02:16] <jbjohnson> kevinkonrad: so would the desktop edition could still act as a server?
[02:16] <mjs> have a wonnerful day/night, all...
[02:17] <Todd200> jbjohnson: it could :)
[02:18] <vitorlobo> !Female
[02:18] <jbjohnson> Todd200: if it's a virtual machine, could i still remotely log in, even if i'm not logged in on the virtual machine?
[02:18] <vitorlobo> Female!
[02:18] <dualcore> i have installed and configured postfix, opened port 25, and when i try to send a php mail() i see an active connection on port 25 in firestarter, but then the email never comes through
[02:18] <vitorlobo> female!
[02:18] <vitorlobo> !female
[02:19] <vitorlobo> what's channel ubuntu female?
[02:19] <vitorlobo> hum
[02:19] <vitorlobo> women!
[02:19] <vitorlobo> !women
[02:19] <vitorlobo> oh yeah
[02:19] <vitorlobo> =D
[02:19] <tucemiux> ubuntu women? LoL
[02:19] <ponbiki> My mom loves ubuntu
[02:20] <ponbiki> no lie
[02:20] <tucemiux> is she single? o_O
[02:20] <ponbiki> nah
[02:20] <ponbiki> she is old and married
[02:20] <ponbiki> 58 i think
[02:20] <IdleOne> let's get back to support please
[02:20] <dualcore> my gf's sister uses linux
[02:20] <tucemiux> ahhh she's too old, sorry
[02:20] <ponbiki> ubuntu is for everyone
[02:21] <ponbiki> gentoo etc. mebbe not for the fresh to linux
[02:21] <tucemiux> i got my nieces to use ubuntu, the youngest one went without a hitch, the oldest one took a bit to convince but once she started using her netbook and windows was so slow she started using ubuntu remix only
[02:21] <MrPockets> so, i'm trying to find a command that'll make a firefox link
[02:21] <MrPockets> ideas?
[02:22] <r\wWorld> gentoo is had some of its packages hosed.... so the dev's have a hard time to maintain everything as well
[02:22] <tucemiux> MrPockets,  where do you want the link?
[02:22] <ponbiki> yar
[02:23] <ponbiki> i still like gentoo a lot for servers...never used it for a general desktop os though
[02:23] <Dice-Man> MrPockets: make a firefox link ?
[02:23] <Dice-Man> MrPockets: you mean launch firefox ?
[02:23] <vivid> MrPockets, try reading about the command 'ln'
[02:24] <MrPockets> tucemiux, specifically desktop
[02:24] <MrPockets> but it shouldn't really matter
[02:24] <overclucker> MrPockets: I use gnome to open in my default browser: gnome-open http://google.com
[02:24] <MrPockets> would just ln  work?
[02:24] <ponbiki> ln will make a hard link with out a flag
[02:24] <MrPockets> nah, a dynamic or symbolic link is moreso for directories
[02:24] <ponbiki> iirc
[02:24] <vivid> you said make a link, read about ln to suit your linking needs
[02:24] <dualcore> i have installed and configured postfix, opened port 25, and when i try to send a php mail() i see an active connection on port 25 in firestarter, but then the email never comes through
[02:25] <dualcore> what does +j mean?
[02:25] <IdleOne> dualcore: +j sets a limit of amount of joins:per seconds
[02:25] <ponbiki> join throttling
[02:25] <ponbiki> o
[02:25] <ponbiki> yar
[02:26] <te> MrPockets: If you want an icon for firefox on the desktop or the panel, just right click on firefox's menu option and choose to "Add this launcher to panel"  (or desktop)
[02:27] <mikejf> How do I enable TTys on a customized 10.04 LiveCD?
[02:27] <te> MrPockets: Right click on firefox's menu option and choose to "Add this launcher to desktop"
[02:28] <tolland_> so is everyone putting ubuntu on one big partition? or should i manually add /home /var ?
[02:28]  * MrPockets scrolls up
[02:28] <MrPockets> MrPockets> so, i'm trying to find a command
[02:28] <MrPockets> overclucker, thanks, that should work
[02:29] <memorygap0> hello: i'm installing ubuntu on win xp using virtual box. now there is a option allocate drive space: erase and use the entire space or specify partitions? which one i need to choose
[02:29] <tolland_> memorygap0: as you have presumably already set a size for the virtual disk during creation, I would use the whole space
[02:30] <dualcore> is there a channel for postfix?
[02:30] <bastidrazor> dualcore: #httpd
[02:30] <te> memorygap0: Depends on what you can afford to use for linux. If it is the only drive, you obviously don't want to wipe the whole thing, (unless you're ready to ditch MS Windows altogether).
[02:31] <leppards> Hi everyone.
[02:31] <bastidrazor> dualcore: actually there is a #postfix channel
[02:31] <te> memorygap0: tolland_ has your situation in mind... his advise is probably more correct.
[02:31] <dualcore> oh cool thanks
[02:32] <leppards> had a question regarding a usb wifi device that I am trying to get to work on my installation 10.10 installation.
[02:32] <memorygap0> tolland: if i choose erase and use the entire disk.this option will not erase my os xp. yes i created 8gb for my vm
[02:32] <dualcore> leppards: what is your question
[02:33] <leppards> The device is Ralink 3070 . It gets recognized and clicking on the network icon on the taskbar shows a list of wifi networks as well. but the password does not work
[02:34] <leppards> as in.. i enter it and the password box keeps coming back. It does not show any error message ... are there some logs that I can look up..
[02:35] <leppards> i have tried to blacklist certain devices as suggested in this post .http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1407165
[02:35] <b1lly> is there a way to open a directory in the gui thru cmdline
[02:35] <NSpirit> I wanna install another windows without removing Ubuntu, what should I do??
[02:35] <mikejf> How do I enable TTys on a customized 10.04 LiveCD?
[02:35] <mikejf> How do I enable TTys on a customized 10.04 LiveCD?
[02:36] <te> NSpirit: Just install on the first partition of a drive the computer will boot.
 : ctrl + alt + f1
[02:36] <tolland_> memorygap0: what are you using for the disk for your new instance?
[02:37] <mikejf> NSpirit: All TTYs except 7 for X are disabled by default, and all they have is a flashing cursor in the top-left
[02:37] <tolland_> during the wizard it should have offered you to created a new .vdi file to contain your virtual hard disk, and you should have specified fixed or dynamic and given it a start size
[02:38] <memorygap0> choose dynamic
[02:38] <tolland_> and there should be a file called Whatever.vdi in your virtuals folder
[02:38] <mikejf>  /etc/init/tty*.conf isn't much help, they all show that it should be starting fine
[02:38] <tolland_> so when you choose to use the whole disk in the ubuntu installer, that file gets filled with an ext4 file system
[02:39] <tolland_> not your native OS disk
[02:39] <mikejf> I've messed around with inittab before, but now with upstart I can't figure out how the LiveCD is disabling the extra TTYs
[02:39] <memorygap0> tolland_: thanks
[02:39] <thraspic> question about lxdm:  i need an option to boot to a command prompt rather than an xsession using the lxdm login manager,  can someone direct me to the right config file?
[02:40] <bgb1122> hey all, question.  I installed Chromium in Natty Alpha 3 and selected it as default but some applications still insist on using Firefox to open links. ie Qwibber, Evolution.  How can I fix this so all links open Chromium?
[02:41] <mikejf> bgb1122: ln -s $(which chromium) $(which firefox)
[02:41] <memorygap0> tolland_: now  I know choosing the option "use the entire disk" it only use the size of the vm not the enitre hardisk
[02:42] <tolland_> yes
[02:42] <ajin> read a lot--google---irc, all newbies
[02:43] <leppards> :dualcore can i give you some more information that may help
[02:43] <dualcore> leppards: yes
[02:44] <BlackWeb> Is Anyone familiar with using gimp
[02:45] <bgb1122> mikejf: ln -s chromium-browser firefox ?
[02:45] <StepNjump> what is gimp
[02:45] <leppards> I also tried compiling the module after applying the patch suggested here but the compile failed nonetheless. (http://www.linuxcrew.de/2010/10/11/rt2870-compile-error-under-kubuntu-maverick-10-10/?lang=en)
[02:46] <BlackWeb> Like photoshop but gimp for linux
[02:46] <drc> BlackWeb: irc.gimp.org/#gimp might be a better place to ask GIMP questions
[02:46] <lot49> free and opensource too
[02:46] <BlackWeb> Alright Thanks :)
[02:47] <leppards> dualcore anything specific I can provide ?
[02:50] <ajin> "lol"
[02:53] <searched> hola??
[02:53] <searched> alguien por ahi tengo una dudda
[02:54] <searched> hola??
[02:54] <te> !es | searched
[02:54] <searched> ty guys
[02:54] <ajin> research! how many of you guys experienced gnome-panel disappeared ?
[02:54] <speedrunnerG55> whenever i try to turn on visulasation in rytham bot it crashes
[02:54] <speedrunnerG55> what should i do
[02:55] <ajin> it's a bug
[02:55] <searched> hey guys, my maverick ubuntu doesnt find one of my hd wich is sata any idea?
[02:56] <jnfourteen> im trying to configure and make from source, but a couple of packages i tried to install failed
[02:56] <jnfourteen> i got build-essential
[02:57] <jnfourteen> but still failing
[02:57] <jnfourteen> anyone know what could be the problem?
[02:58] <te> jnfourteen: What package?
[02:58] <te> jnfourteen: Where did it fail?  Any specific errors?
[02:59] <searched> why my ubuntu doesnt  find my sata hd?
[02:59] <te> jnfourteen: pastebin some errors....
[02:59] <NuXeLiTe> searched is it plugged, never got a problem with that
[02:59] <jnfourteen> first i had a glib error
[02:59] <jnfourteen> fixed that
[02:59] <searched> yes it is the bios can find it but ubuntu doesnt
[03:00] <jnfourteen> but then the make fails. i was trying to install bitchx and then i tried to isntall irssi
[03:00] <searched> what can i do? do i need any driver?
[03:00] <jnfourteen> i just use apt-get eventually
[03:00] <jnfourteen> used*
[03:01] <NuXeLiTe> searched, did you just plug it ?
[03:01] <searched> yes i plugged it
[03:01] <xiambax> what file is it that tells my user to open something at login
[03:01] <NuXeLiTe> is linux already installed ?
[03:01] <searched> yes it is
[03:02] <NuXeLiTe> you might have to format the sata driver that you plugged
[03:02] <searched> i installed it in the ide hd
[03:02] <NuXeLiTe> format the new installed driver
[03:02] <NuXeLiTe> and it should work
[03:02] <searched> so i have to format it?
[03:02] <searched> but how? ubuntu doesnt find it
[03:02] <te> jnfourteen: Why not use pre-compiled package?
[03:03] <jnfourteen> yeah i ended up doing that
[03:03] <memorygap0> !bin
[03:03] <jnfourteen> but was wondering why compiling from source was giving me so many issues
[03:03] <te> jnfourteen: Yes, you should use the package manager
[03:04] <phoenixsampras> hello how to compare 2 files are exactly equal??
[03:04] <b1lly> anyone know which "apache" config file, actually controls the directive for the default vhost
[03:05] <te> jnfourteen: There are a number of reasons why you might experience a failure when compiling from source. One is un-resolved dependencies.  You just have to look at the errors for clues.
[03:06] <jnfourteen> alright thanks.  so it's not uncommon to see all these errors? I fix one issue and then it halts somewhere else
[03:06] <jrib> phoenixsampras: use diff
[03:06] <jrib> b1lly: /etc/apache2/sites-available/default (or ask a more specific question)
[03:07] <b1lly> jrib: that's the vhost config file...which is the config file designates that as the default
[03:08] <AnubArack> Is horizontal tearing of video playback a known issue of ATI drivers on ubuntu 10.10 ?
[03:08] <soreau> AnubArack: What card is it?
[03:08] <jrib> b1lly: what do you want to accomplish?
[03:09] <DavidReza> someone knows what if the default kernel with Ubuntu 10.10?
[03:09] <DavidReza> what is*
[03:09] <AnubArack> Radeon 4670 (512 mb)
[03:09] <jrib> DavidReza: 2.6.35
[03:10] <OMGeek> lo
[03:10] <DavidReza> jrib,  really? =S
[03:10] <DavidReza> thank you very much
[03:11] <soreau> AnubArack: I'd expect more problems from fglrx than radeon, despite the fact that it's currently faster for 3D
[03:12] <leppards> hey everyone.. i posted a question about the usb wifi issue (ralink 3070) earlier. can someone please help me. i have tried to follow the steps mentioned in the ubuntuforums threads but have not been able to get the card to connect to a wifi network
[03:12] <jrib> !wifi | leppards
[03:12] <tbruff13> is it possible to make a disk in staratup disk creator not ask you to install and go directly to trying from the Usb stick
[03:13] <tbruff13> hello
[03:13] <AnubArack> soreau, I know, same thought crossed my mind. I also desabled all the advanced featured in the Ati control panel but no change. And apparently I'm not the only one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10586630
[03:13] <speedrunnerG55> help
[03:13] <Ben64> !help | speedrunnerG55
[03:14] <speedrunnerG55> i cant run visualasations in rythembox
[03:14] <[biabia]> is 1GB mem enough to run kubuntu?
[03:14] <rww> [biabia]: yes
[03:14] <prabhu> 1Gb is fine
[03:14] <[biabia]> rww and prabhu thanks :)
[03:14] <Christiannnnn> hi, iam having problems i have pavilion dv2500, and i installed ubuntu, but when i connect usb storage i cant see it on my computer whats wrong ?
[03:15] <mickster04> leppards: did you see !ralink?
[03:15] <soreau> AnubArack: If you remove fglrx and install xorg-edgers, you should get latest bits for the default open radon driver. A newer kernel should help too, so I expect HD cards to be much better supported in Natty
[03:15] <leppards> mickster04 yes I do see ralink as the chipset for some of the manufacturers
[03:16] <mickster04> leppards: i meant the help given when you type !ralink
[03:16] <AnubArack> soreau, I could try that. If I know how
[03:16] <mickster04> leppards: are you sure that chipset is supported
[03:17] <brophat> what is the command to find out what drivers are being used for various hardware?
[03:17] <leppards> i am not certain, but i bought the card off ebay, and the page listed linux as a supported os..
[03:17] <leppards> also lsusb lists the following
[03:17] <soreau> AnubArack: 1) Remove fglrx (sys>admin>additional drivers) 2) Install xorg-edgers repo (with the command: 'sudo apt-get install python-software-properties && sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental && sudo apt-get upgrade' )
[03:17] <leppards> Bus 002 Device 005: ID 148f:3070 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT2870/RT3070 Wireless Adapter
[03:18] <Christiannnnn> hi, iam having problems i have pavilion dv2500, and i installed ubuntu, but when i connect usb storage i cant see it on my computer whats wrong ?
[03:18] <soreau> AnubArack: This is assuming you haven't installed the driver using the .run file from AMD
[03:18] <ComputerChic> Hi all :)
[03:19] <AnubArack> soreau, nope i installed it when ubuntu prompted me so it's via additional drivers
[03:19] <ajin> hi
[03:19] <ComputerChic> ajin: Hi
[03:19] <soreau> AnubArack: After it's completed, cold boot the machine to completely reset the hardware
[03:19] <fizy[laptop]> how do i configure the openssh-server doohickey to accept a different port? i already have port forwarding set up
[03:20] <AnubArack> soreau, will do. TY. I'll come back with the outcome
[03:20] <bastidrazor> fizy[laptop]: add the new port in /etc/ssh/sshd_config  then restart ssh, sudo service ssh restart
[03:20] <soreau> AnubArack: To revert, use 'sudo ppa-purge xorg-edgers'
[03:20] <fizy[laptop]> bastidrazor: and can i do that from ssh?
[03:21] <brophat> anyone know the command to list the drivers that are being used for my various hardware?
[03:21] <AnubArack> soreau, If i want to go back to the close source drivers?
[03:21] <bastidrazor> fizy[laptop]: yes.
[03:21] <leppards> mickster04 not sure what you meant by "type in !ralink". where did you expect me to type !ralink
[03:22] <fizy[laptop]> leppards: like this
[03:22] <fizy[laptop]> !ralink
[03:22] <soreau> AnubArack: Well, there's two parts. Removing the closed source driver means the default radeon driver will be used. But xorg-edgers gives the latest updates to the radeon driver stack
[03:22] <phoenixsampras> how to compare files via GUI? SOS
[03:22] <leppards> on the shell i'm assuming?
[03:23] <arand> phoenixsampras: meld is an option.
[03:23] <fizy[laptop]> leppards: the !ralink is to control the bot in #ubuntu
[03:23] <te> phoenixsampras: In a gui terminal type diff file-1 file-2
[03:23] <fizy[laptop]> !ralink like this leppards
[03:23] <leppards> !ralink
[03:23] <fizy[laptop]> arg
[03:23] <gbear14275> I have a process I don't think I can kill
[03:23] <fizy[laptop]> !ralink
[03:24] <leppards> thanks fizy. apologies for the noob question
[03:24] <te> gbear14275: What process would that be?
[03:24] <fizy[laptop]> leppards: its quite okay
[03:24] <gbear14275> te, it is a gwibber service process.  I tried to kill it to kill a zombie sh process, but now the parent gwibber-service process is zombie too
[03:25] <leppards> got the message "Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)"
[03:25] <te> gbear14275: To kill service use command service stop service-name
[03:26] <gbear14275> te, unrecognized service
[03:26] <gbear14275> te, but the thing is it says the status is zombie
[03:26] <jamiewan> gbear14275, does it show up in top of htop
[03:27] <jamiewan> or*
[03:28] <gbear14275> jamiewan, te, I just killed it by killing the parent gwibber-service... but I'm wondering what I just accidentally killed?
[03:28] <gbear14275> brb, rebooting
[03:28] <jrt4> I just ran glxgears and got XIO fatal io error 11 (Resource not available) and then when I left X, X won't start again. There are no errors that show up in my xorg log that weren't there before ...
[03:28] <te> Guest54372: Sorry  I got it wrong. service service-name stop
[03:29] <jrt4> I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and dpkg-reconfigure xorg and neither fixed it
[03:29] <te> gbear14276 Sorry  I got it wrong. service service-name stop
[03:30] <jamiewan> te, he's rebooting i think
[03:30] <te> jamiewan: Yea, I see now. Thanks
[03:32] <phoenixsampras> how to compare to files, 1 file is on a shared network it has terabytes of size, and the other one in my pc ?
[03:32] <ComputerChic> ^slacker^:  That's my dog's name?
[03:32] <ComputerChic> ....*
[03:32] <SwedeMike> Photocopy: md5sum command gives you a checksum of a file, do it on both and compare the checksum
[03:33] <phoenixsampras> hi ComputerChic, alone?
[03:33] <ComputerChic> phoenixsampras: you wish
[03:33] <knightrage> haha.
[03:34] <phoenixsampras> ComputerChic: so you have a problem?
[03:34] <ComputerChic> phoenixsampras: Not at all.
[03:35] <AnubArack> soreau, after i ran that command it gave me an error
[03:35] <soreau> AnubArack: Post it to paste.ubuntu.com
[03:35] <phoenixsampras> ComputerChic: then you have a need of something?
[03:36] <ComputerChic> phoenixsampras: Yes, You to go hide under a rock,
[03:36] <jamiewan> lol
[03:36] <Linuxpwns> No way...hey RICK check it out
[03:36] <phoenixsampras> ComputerChic: im just trying to help you
[03:37] <AnubArack> soreau, I closed the terminal but I know what it said: the ia32-libs-mesa-dri-experimental package is broken
[03:37] <ComputerChic> phoenixsampras: Who said I needed help?
[03:38] <soreau> AnubArack: Can you try removing that package and running apt-get update && apt-get upgrade  ?
[03:38] <phoenixsampras> ComputerChic: your nickname sounds like you need help
[03:38] <AnubArack> soreau, http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/3ts8j88v/SynapticPackageManager_045.png
[03:38] <ComputerChic> Nope
[03:39] <Linuxpwns> AnubArack: Have you tried fixing your broken package using Synaptic Package Manager then going to Edit > Fix Broken Packages?
[03:40] <Photocopy> Today, I partitioned my drive into three. On a mac, I made a ~240gb partition of HFS+, and on ubuntu, i made a 240gb ext4 and a 20 gb fat32.  The fat32 is read/writeable. the ext4 is read only, (read and write by root) and says i cant change the permissions because I'm not the owner. The HFS+ is read only but thats okay cause iirc HFS+ isn't writeable by linux. Wat do?
[03:40] <phoenixsampras> ComputerChic: then you need advise
[03:41] <Photocopy> phoenixsampras; let me give you some spelling advice ;P
[03:41] <AnubArack> Linuxpwns, I just marked it for removal and applied then ran apt-get update/upgrade like soreau suggested
[03:41] <phoenixsampras> Photocopy: yeh, no wonder i dont catch girls lately
[03:41] <Linuxpwns> We are here to help others not gloat about who knows more about what... just remember theres always somebody in the world who knows more about something than you do
[03:42] <Photocopy> phoenixsampras: i've been single for two years! =( We're a little offtpic though. Know anything about my permissions problem?
[03:42] <phoenixsampras> Photocopy: can you recap the problem plz
[03:42] <Linuxpwns> Anub: What happened as a result after trying that?
[03:42] <Photocopy> Today, I partitioned my drive into three. On a mac, I made a ~240gb partition of HFS+, and on ubuntu, i made a 240gb ext4 and a 20 gb fat32.  The fat32 is read/writeable. the ext4 is read only, (read and write by root) and says i cant change the permissions because I'm not the owner. The HFS+ is read only but thats okay cause iirc HFS+ isn't writeable by linux. Wat do?
[03:42] <AnubArack> soreau, Linuxpwns  http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/poc5yct4/anubarack3rdEchalon_046.png
[03:43] <AnubArack> aka same problem
[03:43] <i4ba1_> excuse me all
[03:43] <i4ba1_> how to get computer model number using terminal?
[03:44] <i4ba1_> in windows i can do 'wmic bios get serialnumber'
[03:44] <i4ba1_> can i do in linux?
[03:44] <Photocopy> phoenixsampras: do i need to highlight you with my recap?
[03:44] <Guest84104> how can i encrpty files/folders in ubuntu
[03:45] <Photocopy> i4ba1_: I really can't say I know, sorry, but generally I found in experience this chat is more responsive with your problem explained in one message. Hate to sound rude, just letting you know :3
[03:45] <Logan_> !encrypt | Guest84104
[03:46] <SwedeMike> i4ba1_: look into the lshw command
[03:46] <i4ba1_> i try sudo lshw
[03:46] <Ben64> Photocopy: what are you trying to do?
[03:47] <Photocopy> Ben64: are you asking me to paste my problem yet again? Not sure what isn't clear...
[03:47] <i4ba1_> and in terminal show detail about my computer hardware
[03:47] <Ben64> Photocopy: i see your big explanation, but i'm not seeing what you want to do
[03:47] <MarconM> who know if dual core doi duo  is i686 yet
[03:47] <i4ba1_> but i just want the model number of the computer
[03:47] <SwedeMike> Photocopy: it's not clear what you need to fix. do you want to get your ext4 read/writable?
[03:47] <i4ba1_> not list all hardware, SweedeMike
[03:47] <Guest84104> Logan_, seems in depth
[03:48] <SwedeMike> i4ba1_: motherboard model should be in there.
[03:48] <Photocopy> Ben64, SwedeMike; Yes. The HFS+ is for writing my pro tools/logic sessions to with the mac in the recording studio, and the ext4 is for my own personal use. The FAT32 is there incase i need to swap anything back and forth (Didnt realize linux could read HFS+)
[03:49] <Ben64> Photocopy: ....so you want to write to ext4
[03:49] <Photocopy> Ben64: yeah!
[03:49] <SwedeMike> Photocopy: sudo chmod a+w <directory where ext4 is mounted>
[03:49] <Photocopy> =)
[03:49] <Ben64> ok, good. you said root can write though
[03:49] <jamiewan> i4ba1_, sudo lshw will show it
[03:49] <Linuxpwns> Anub: You are sure that package is meant for your architecture right? Try installing the Gdebi package installer and then rerunning the .DEB installation just to be sure.
[03:49] <Photocopy> right, but I want to be able to write to it normally like i do the fat32 partition
[03:50] <SwedeMike> Photocopy: chmod a+w does that.
[03:50] <celeryman> if possible i need some internet help in ubuntu 10.04
[03:50] <jsoft> Internet help?
[03:50] <Ben64> sudo chown -R <username> /path/to/ext4/partition
[03:50] <jsoft> Prolly start by describing your problem
[03:50] <Ben64> Photocopy: ^
[03:50] <Linuxpwns> i will try to the best of my abilities.... whats the problem celeryman
[03:51] <Photocopy> SwedeMike, Ben64: It didn't work though.
[03:51] <Logan_> !ask | celeryman
[03:51] <Ben64> Photocopy: did you do my chown line?
[03:51] <phoenixsampras> help! how to share a resource, so a windows machine can access to my ubuntu pc??? SOS
[03:52] <Photocopy> Ben64: There wasnt a highlight. sorry. I thought your "Photocopy: ^" was referring to swedemike's advice. One sec
[03:52] <celeryman> okay   i am showing a connection to internet under ethernet and wirless, i am able to ping www. google.com from terminal  but cant surf web or dl from software center
[03:52] <Ben64> oh
[03:52] <celeryman> thank you
[03:53] <Linuxpwns> phoenix, install samba on your machine (if missing) then right-click on the folder you wish to share and choose sharing options, then select your parameters that viola
[03:53] <Logan_> !samba | phoenixsampras
[03:54] <Photocopy> ben64: thank you. I can read and write the ext4. Can I ask you one more thing? Am I right in my assumption that linux cannot write to HFS+? I don't expect to need to; reading is quite good enough, but I want to make sure I don't spread misinformation
[03:54] <Ben64> Photocopy: The Linux HFS+ kernel driver has support to read and write to HFS+ non-journaled drives/parititions but only has read support of journaled HFS+
[03:55] <Linuxpwns> phoenixsampras: also if you have a firewall enabled don't forget to forward TCP port 139 to allow traffic on your network to connect to the share
[03:55] <leapy0yo> hi
[03:55] <fight> hi
[03:55] <Mrwootwoot> hi
[03:55] <leapy0yo> how do I move all files in a subdirectory to the parent directory in terminal... maybe I can use for...that is used regularly, no?
[03:55] <Photocopy> Ben64: Ah, I picked Journaled. I'll leave it, cause I don't need to write.
[03:55] <RealOpty> help!
[03:55] <RealOpty> how can i switch to ALSA
[03:56] <Photocopy> Ben64: Now that my drive is in three partitions, when I plug it in it pops up three nautilus windows. This is insanely annoying. What can I do about this?
[03:56] <lrate> is it possible to install a bootable and persistent ubuntu on an external HD preferably as a vdi/vhd file?
[03:56] <RealOpty> ive discovered  that my hdmi audio works via ALSA
[03:56] <Jordan_U> leapy0yo: mv /path/to/direcory/* /path/to/
[03:56] <gbear14275> ok yeah, te, jamiewan I rebooted and have the same Zombie sh process under a gwibber-service parent process
[03:56] <Photocopy> lrate: I don't know about the vdi/vhd stuff but i've had a bootable persistent ubuntu on a usb stick so I'm going to go ahead and say yes. It's pretty easy to find with google.
[03:58] <celeryman> does that make sense
[03:58] <Ben64> Photocopy: um.... theres a way to turn off the auto thingy, but idk how
[03:58] <Logan_> !alsa | RealOpty
[03:58] <Jordan_U> gbear14275: Can you pastebin the output of "pstree -p"?
[03:58] <Photocopy> Ben64: Okay, thanks.
[03:59] <RealOpty> Logan_, ty
[03:59] <Logan_> RealOpty: you're welcome
[04:00] <gbear14275> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/D0R9cuMv
[04:00] <Linuxpwns> Real0pty: Have a look at this link http://howto.blbosti.com/2010/04/ubuntu-make-alsa-default-instead-of-pulseaudio/
[04:00] <RealOpty> kk
[04:02] <gbear14275> Jordan_U, does that make sense?  the sh session 2140 is zombie
[04:02] <gbear14275> 2540*
[04:02] <Linuxpwns> realopty, just curious do you have an nvidia GPU with an HDMI audio out jack?
[04:02] <Jordan_U> gbear14275: As you can see the only parent of any of the gwibber-service processes (other than init) is another gwibber-service process, so you probably didn't kill anything other than gwibber.
[04:02] <Photocopy> Ben64: One more thing; do you know why every time I boot up, it asks me for my keyring password 4 times?
[04:02] <RealOpty> yes i do have that
[04:02] <kisuke> ok question for you all, any one know how to purge a SSH cert?
[04:02] <RealOpty> Linuxpwns, suggestions?
[04:03] <gbear14275> Jordan_U, is it possible to kill the zombie directly?  I tried to use sigchld to the parent but it wouldn't kill the zombie child
[04:03] <Ben64> Photocopy: whatever you have set up using keyring, i'd suggest having a blank password for it
[04:03] <Linuxpwns> Photocopy, it encrypts your saved passwords to provide a little extra layer of security
[04:03] <SwedeMike> gbear14275: you can't kill a zombie, that's why it's a zombie.
[04:03] <celeryman> getting connection timed out in firefox.. showing active internet with wireless and ethernet, i can ping google from terminal, \
[04:03] <gbear14275> SwedeMike, ah
[04:03] <Jordan_U> gbear14275: A zombie process indicates a bug in the parent process. If the parent never reaps the child, and you don't kill that buggy parent, it will stay a zombie.
[04:04] <Photocopy> Linuxpwns: why does it ask me four times though!
[04:04] <gbear14275> ah... ok
[04:04] <Jordan_U> gbear14275: Please file a bug report with "ubuntu-bug 2523".
[04:04] <Linuxpwns> Photocopy, to remove the keyring go to your Home Folder, click View > Show Hidden Files. Click on .gnome2 > keyrings  DELETE EVERYTHING INSIDE HERE. Restart your computer then when it prompts you to type in a password just hit OK to transmit in clear text and you won't be asked again.
[04:04] <gbear14275> Jordan_U, ok
[04:04] <gbear14275> Jordan_U, thanks
[04:05] <Jordan_U> gbear14275: You're welcome.
[04:05] <Photocopy> Linuxpwns: I like the keyring. I don't like it asking me four times in a row. Are you sure that its all or nothing?
[04:05] <Ramirez> Hello I am having trouble getting my laptop to suspend when the lid is closed. I've tried installing pm-utils and laptop-mode-tools but neither one helps. Please help me if you can.
[04:05] <Linuxpwns> photocopy, when are you prompted to input your password for keyring?
[04:06] <[deXter]> Ramirez: I doubt if anyone can help, this is a known problem with laptops. I guess you just have to wait until your laptop is eventually supported
[04:06] <celeryman> any ideas would be appreciated
[04:07] <Ramirez> thank you {deXter}
[04:07] <Linuxpwns> Ramirez: Does your laptop's bios allow you to change the sleep states (i.e S1, S2, S3, S4)?
[04:07] <RealOpty> BRB some kinda network problems
[04:07] <b1lly> how do i know if i have ubuntu lucid lynx, karmic koala, or hard heron
[04:08] <Flannel> b1lly: lsb_release -a
[04:08] <Photocopy> Linuxpwns: My computer enters my user account on bootup. It loads my panels and docky and everything and a dialogue asks me to enter my password to unlock the keyring. I type it and hit enter. the box closes and returns and asks again. 4 times total
[04:08] <Logan_> !please | celeryman
[04:08] <b1lly> Flannel: it just says ubuntu 10.10 codename:maverick
[04:08] <Logan_> b1lly: that means that you have maverick...
[04:09] <Logan_> well, technically maverick meerkat
[04:10] <joeyr> Anybody familiar with plop Linux?
[04:10] <[deXter]> I've use plop but haven't used plop linux
[04:10] <[deXter]> *used
[04:10] <Linuxpwns> Photocopy I see. It sounds like you might have multiple apps which have authentication credentials involved and thus you are putting in the keyring password to enable all 4 of them...?
[04:11] <RealOpty> back
[04:11] <RealOpty> Linuxpwns,  so any suggestions?
[04:11] <xene> lets all get naked
[04:11] <RealOpty> already am haha
[04:11] <Linuxpwns> Remove the keyrings as suggested, reboot then when it prompts you for the password again just hit OK to transmit in clear text
[04:11] <xene> RealOpty++
[04:11] <Logan_> joeyr: Distributions other than Ubuntu are not supported in this channel.
[04:11] <Photocopy> Linuxpwns: I don't know. Usually I get connected to my wifi after the first, nothing noticeable happens after the others. Rarely, it asks twice instead of four times. My computer doesnt seem to be less functioning when it asks twice, its almost always four though
[04:12] <Jordan_U> xene: That's not apropriate for this channel.
[04:12] <xene> Jordan_U, have you ever felt the touch of a woman?
[04:12] <joeyr> Logan_: Well I have ubuntu on my external and I'm trying to boot ubuntu from a bootloader
[04:12] <Jordan_U> !guidelines | xene
[04:12] <RealOpty> LOL
[04:12] <DavidReza> someone can help me in acivating GLX?
[04:13] <jayd3e> so I have my NIC inserted into a slot, and Ubuntu doesn't even see it, this is confirmed by a lspci, how should I troubleshoot?
[04:13] <gbear14275> new issue... whenever I try and select an iso to use with usb-creator it crashes or just doesn't respond to the selection
[04:14] <joeyr> [dexter]: I'm trying to make it so my computer recognizes my ubuntu on my external hard drive first
[04:15] <[deXter]> joeyr: No boot device priority in your bios ?
[04:15] <naturalpsychic> @joeyr change boot sequence
[04:16] <joeyr> [dexter]: It's set to the cd drive first. What I want to do is have a usb tell the computer to go to my external hard drive first
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[04:17] <Linuxpwns> joeyr, do you have an OEM machine (aka HP A6350N for example)>?
[04:17] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: yes.
[04:17] <rattlebone> HAHA Saul Goodman.
[04:18] <rattlebone> Oh, fatty
[04:18] <Linuxpwns> would you mind telling me so I can look up your bios info?
[04:18] <Saturn2888> it is I thoguht
[04:18] <RealOpty> Linuxpwns, know anything bout the nvidia hdmi working with pulse?
[04:19] <Linuxpwns> I use ALSA for that.
[04:19] <RealOpty> point taken
[04:19] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: It's a gateway. The internal hard drive has windows media player 2005 running on it.  GM5084 is the computer's number (Ithink)
[04:20]  * RealOpty removes pulse
[04:20] <Linuxpwns> realOpty, ubuntu 10.10 detected the nvidia hdmi audio out port on my box so im sure it would work...
[04:20] <RealOpty> well im on 10.10
[04:20] <RealOpty> it does detect it
[04:20] <Linuxpwns> Thanks joeyr, i have a GM5632E
[04:20] <RealOpty> but nothing plays unless i use alsa with vlc player
[04:22] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: No problem, I've been seeing all these videos about how people use either a cd or usb to change their boot order, but none of them helped because none of them mentioned booting to an external drive from having the usb first in the boot order
[04:23] <Saturn2888> Ubuntu Server isn't installing properly from the USB. I have this problem every time I install via USB. Does anyone know why it doesn't detect it from the installer? It says "Insert CD-ROM" or something and gives this error: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47554702/ubuntu-1004-install-fail.gif
[04:23] <[deXter]> joeyr: I don't see what the issue is? Just use the regular plop and you'll be fine
[04:23] <Taena> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRxDdFemjkg
[04:24] <Linuxpwns> joeyr, in the boot priority options in your bios (i.e First  CD Second Floppy Third HDD) etc.... do you see USB as an option?
[04:26] <Molybdenum> hey, im trying to boot 10.04 off of a livecd however it freezes just when it brings up the install window
[04:26] <Molybdenum> any ideas?
[04:26] <dan123> hi all
[04:27] <Ben64> Molybdenum: you could try installing from the alternate cd
[04:27] <lrate> can you install ubuntu to a vdi/vhd and put it on a bootable usb ?
[04:27] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: I'll have to turn off my computer to check. or do I have to?
[04:27] <Molybdenum> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download
[04:27] <Linuxpwns> i can try to look it up online real quick before you do.
[04:27] <Molybdenum> as in that ben64?
[04:28] <joeyr> [dexter]: Alright I'll download it
[04:28] <Ben64> Molybdenum: sort of. theres the normal cd, and one labeled "alternate" which is a text based installation
[04:28] <[deXter]> lrate: no need for a vdi you can just use the startup creator or use unetbootin or pendrivelinux.com
[04:29] <lrate> [deXter] the thing is if its a vdi/vhd though I can back it up easily and restore it when my drive fails
[04:30] <Molybdenum> so i click the hyperlink that says a location near you
[04:30] <Ben64> no...
[04:30] <[deXter]> lrate: Again, no need because you can create a persistent storage space which is just a single file casper.rw .. it's like an image file
[04:30] <Ben64> Molybdenum: download the "alternate" cd
[04:31] <Molybdenum> where is that link?
[04:31] <Molybdenum> alternate installer right?
[04:31] <Ben64> yeah
[04:32] <Molybdenum> ok
[04:32] <Molybdenum> its a torrent, correct?
[04:32] <Ben64> there are torrents available
[04:32] <joeyr> [dexter]: alright, plop is extracted onto my usb drive
[04:32] <Linuxpwns> I use Clonezilla to image my partitions
[04:32] <Ben64> or http if you prefer
[04:33] <Molybdenum> ben64 the http one is in the "place near you" link correct?
[04:33] <xatierlike> Ex-chat
[04:33] <Ben64> after a few clicks it can reach it
[04:33] <Molybdenum> yea
[04:33] <Ben64> but you'd still have to make sure to pick the right one
[04:34] <hello> hello
[04:34] <Ben64> hello hello
[04:34] <Linuxpwns> This is not BONO!
[04:34] <Linuxpwns> (if anyone got my joke)
[04:34] <hello> linux is a world
[04:35] <Linuxpwns> Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
[04:35] <[deXter]> Linuxpwns: You mean the song? "Hello? Is it me you're looking for?"
[04:35] <hello> and that is the reason i love it
[04:35] <hello> that is my nickname
[04:35] <lrate> [deXter] could you link me to a guide for that casper thing? and thanks for the info sounds like what i was looking for
[04:36] <[deXter]> lrate: No need for a guide, just head to pendrivelinux.com
[04:36] <hello> bye bye i got a job
[04:36] <[deXter]> and download the universal usb creator
[04:36] <JackyChao> Is IPv6 48-bit or 64-bit?
[04:36] <Linuxpwns> dexter, how do you whisper in red?
[04:37] <lrate> [deXter] cheers, thanks again
[04:37] <[deXter]> Linuxpwns: er, what?
[04:38] <Linuxpwns> when you type to me it appears in red
[04:38] <Linuxpwns> When you address my name
[04:38] <Mr_Midnight> Hi, I am looking to install Ubuntu on a new partition that I'll create on my windows 7 laptop and I want to know if I can use the windows boot loader instead of Grub
[04:38] <Jordan_U> lrate: I would recommend a standard install rather than a persistent live install.
[04:39] <[deXter]> Linuxpwns: yeah that's automatic, just type the name of the person at the starting.
[04:39] <Linuxpwns> Mr_Midnight: The Windows boot loader cannot see the Linux partition so it would be prudent that you install Linux on top of Windows and let Grub do the managing
[04:39] <Linuxpwns> [deXter]: Does this text appear in red?
[04:39] <Jordan_U> Mr_Midnight: Not in any reasonable configuration. Why do you want to?
[04:39] <Mr_Midnight> but I can't stand that grub won't keep windows as the main boot option any time it updates the kernel
[04:40] <Ben64> Mr_Midnight: it can keep windows as default
[04:40] <Jordan_U> Mr_Midnight: Use the full title for the windows menu entry, quoted since it contains spaces, as the value for GRUB_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub.
[04:40] <Jordan_U> Mr_Midnight: That way numbering doesn't matter.
[04:41] <Mr_Midnight> I haven't seen a way to do it without numbering..
[04:41] <Linuxpwns> Mr_Midnight: Very simple. Install a package called "StartUp-Manager" its a GUi tool allows you to select your default OS and then let grub do the dirty work. Simple!
[04:41] <Mr_Midnight> can you give a more detailed example?
[04:43] <Linuxpwns> Mr_Midnight: Open the Synaptic Package Manager. Type in "startupmanager" in search. Install the package. Then locate the StartUp-Manager utility. Under "Default Operating Systems" change to Windows.
[04:43] <Mr_Midnight> Linuxpwns: If I do that I still have to watch for kernel updates... if I miss an update that I have it install in the background it will change the boot order on me and screw up on the next reboot...
[04:43] <Mr_Midnight> Jordan_U: Can you give a more specific example of how to use the name instead of a number?
[04:44] <kontagious> hey can someone tell me what this command does: if ! [ -f /etc/shadow ]
[04:44] <kontagious> there is no man page for if
[04:45] <Ben64> kontagious: should be "if /etc/shadows exists...."
[04:45] <icedtea> kontagious, basically if the file /etc/shadow doesn't exist
[04:45] <Ben64> oh
[04:45] <Ben64> missed the !
[04:45] <icedtea> Ben64: I believe the ! makes it the inverse
[04:46] <kontagious> whats the -f option?
[04:46] <Jordan_U> Mr_Midnight: An example would be to put this in /etc/default/grub: GRUB_DEFAULT="Windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda1)"
[04:46] <jian> 没有什么可以做的为 `install-data-am'。
[04:46] <G000531> i just heard a notification and i don't know what it was, is there some sort of way to log this ?
[04:46] <Linuxpwns> Mr_Midnight: I see. I'm never aware of a workaround for this problem. But the simple,  1-2-3 click GUI utility makes it a snap to change back to Windows when you do come across the kernel updates.
[04:46] <icedtea> kontagious: if "file"
[04:46] <jian> 没有什么可以做的为 `install-data-am'????
[04:46] <kontagious> icedtea, thanks :D
[04:47] <icedtea> kontagious: man bash, and then do a search for -f
[04:47] <jian> 安装编译 没有什么可以做的为 `install-data-am'。
[04:47] <Jordan_U> !cn | jian
[04:47] <unitheory> Need your help! Please review your Linux-compatible printer: http://linuxdeal.com/add-printer.php
[04:47] <Linuxpwns> Jordan_U: The Start-Up Manager utility does the same thing you mention, except through the GUI and far more reliable as you are not as prone to human error.
[04:48] <Ben64> unitheory: this is not a channel for advertising
[04:48] <Chr|s> !ubottu
[04:48] <unitheory> Ben64, sorry :[
[04:49] <Linuxpwns> !ask Will the cubs ever win the world series?
[04:49] <Jordan_U> !ot | Linuxpwns
[04:50] <Linuxpwns> im just being funny :P
[04:50] <icedtea> funny is not allowed in this channel
[04:50] <madoo> HI ROOM
[04:50] <shcherbak> HI
[04:50] <Linuxpwns> Oh snap.
[04:51] <icedtea> hey madoo
[04:51] <Mr_Midnight> ok so next question... which flavor of Ubuntu do people recommend?  I have been using WUBI but have been having issues so I'm switching back to a dedicated partition
[04:52] <Mr_Midnight> using WUBI to install Ubuntu 10.10 64-bit
[04:52] <Ben64> i use ubuntu
[04:52] <icedtea> 10.10 regular
[04:52] <icedtea> vanilla ubuntu
[04:52] <Linuxpwns> WUBI has a few bugs to work out still I agree with your decision to make dedicated partition midnight
[04:52] <icedtea>  how does WUBI work?
[04:52] <Ben64> i don't like wubi
[04:52] <Photocopy> call me weird, but I think it might be cool to have title bars that still have the close/min/max buttons, but without the text title. Any way I can try this out to see how it looks?
[04:53] <Mr_Midnight> icedtea: WUBI creates a virtual hard drive that is then mounted to run Ubuntu inside of instead of having a dedicated partition
[04:53] <Linuxpwns> it allows you to install linux while inside a windows operating system, but its not perfect
[04:53] <Mr_Midnight> icedtea: It lets you go up to a max of 30GB and is good if you really want to keep using windows boot loader and just play some with Ubuntu without knowing how to repartition your hard drive
[04:54] <icedtea> Mr_Midnight: ahhh, ty
[04:54] <Photocopy> Hmm.
[04:54] <shcherbak> Photocopy: Try emerald, you can edit any aspect of theme.
[04:54] <Photocopy> shcherbak: I'm not really sure how to switch it.
[04:55] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: Alright so I downloaded plop onto my flashdrive(1G). I don't know what to do now. I want to boot my external HD(500G). Any ideas?
[04:55] <Linuxpwns> Mr_Midnight: I ran across this link. Might have useful information to resolve your problem with kernel updates. http://superuser.com/questions/102692/make-grub-keep-its-default-boot-under-kernel-updates
[04:55] <shcherbak> Photocopy: install emerald and ccsm, then add emerald as window decorator and issue command compiz --replace
[04:56] <leapy0yo> how do you move all subdirectory files to the parent directory?
[04:56] <Linuxpwns> joeyr: Did you make PLOP  a bootable USB image
[04:56] <Photocopy> shcherbak: I have ccsm. do i just sudo apt-get install emerald?
[04:56] <Mr_Midnight> Linuxpwns: Thanks for the link I'll look it over
[04:56] <shcherbak> leapy0yo: cp -r maneoffolder/* .
[04:56] <shcherbak> Photocopy: yes
[04:57] <Photocopy> shcherbak: isn't emerald more resource heavy? am i going to take a serious hit for removing a bit of text?
[04:57] <joeyr> linuxpwns: no. How do you do that?
[04:57] <Linuxpwns> Photocopy: I'm using the Vista Aero Black emerald theme.  The one thing I like about Windows is Aero.
[04:57] <Photocopy> Linuxpwns: That's kinda a neat little fact but... your point?
[04:57] <leapy0yo> how do you move _multiple_ all subdirectory files to the parent directory?
[04:58] <shcherbak> Photocopy: a bit yes.
[04:58] <Photocopy> shcherbak: i don't understand how to switch it to emerald now that i've installed it
[04:58] <unitheory> cp -r */* . ?????
[04:58] <unitheory> or would that be insane
[04:58] <shcherbak> leapy0yo: oh, files? use find in loop
[04:59] <Linuxpwns> joeyr:  do you already have plop installed or are you looking to install it?
[04:59] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: already installed on my 1G
[04:59] <soreau> Photocopy: emerald --replace
[04:59] <Linuxpwns> I see.
[04:59] <soreau> Photocopy: It will likely be the default when you restart compiz
[05:00] <Photocopy> soreau: before I fire off that command, whats my way out if it messes up. metacity --replace?
[05:00] <shcherbak> Photocopy: in ccsm go to window decoration set emerald, you need theme too, or try emerald --replace
[05:00] <soreau> Photocopy: sure
[05:00] <Photocopy> shcherbak: still not sure what part of the window decoration section in ccsm you mean
[05:01] <Photocopy> soreau: are there any places i can find and change up emerald themes and stuff?
[05:01] <shcherbak> Photocopy: one sec
[05:01] <lrate> Jordan_U i've never used ubuntu yet so I wanted to try it out before going all the way, wubi wasn't working so I figured i'd try for something else, If i could do a full install to a vdi/vhd i'd be up for that but I guess the best suggestion so far has been his pendrivelinux thing
[05:01] <soreau> Photocopy: emerald-theme-manager
[05:02] <Photocopy> soreau; where can i find emerald themes... gnome-look?
[05:02] <Mr_Midnight> lrate: you can also try using a virtual machine inside of windows if you aren't comfortable partitioning your hard drive
[05:02] <soreau> Photocopy: There, compiz-themes.org and kde-look.org
[05:02] <shcherbak> Photocopy: text Command, either put emerald --replace, or path to emerald
[05:02] <soreau> Photocopy: I have a deb package of some generic themes if you want
[05:03] <lrate> Mr_Midnight that wouldn't allow me to test graphic related things though :( i lose either way lol
[05:03] <Photocopy> soreau: if i cannot get the elementary theme window border pretty much exactly how it is with metacity i'm just going to switch back anyway. Let me search around and see if i can find it adapted
[05:03] <Linuxpwns> Photocopy:  Open Compiz Config Settings Manager. Click on Window Decorations. In command, erase default and then input "emerald". Click back.  Open a terminal and CD to your directory containing the .emerald file.  In terminal type emerald --replace EMERALD-NAME.emerald.  Your window border should turn red'ish now. Open emerald and click Import. Double click on your imported emerald theme. Log out and log back in.
[05:03] <soreau> Photocopy: How is it different than metacity?
[05:04] <Photocopy> soreau: how is what different than metacity?
 soreau: if i cannot get the elementary theme window border pretty much exactly how it is with metacity <--
[05:04] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: Do I do something with the iso image?
[05:04] <Mr_Midnight> anyway thanks all for your help time to go grab a midnight snack and then start an ubuntu install on  my new 48GB partition
[05:05] <Photocopy> soreau: I don't think that danrabbit, creator of the theme i normally use, made an emerald version of it. checking to see if someone ported it
[05:05] <PeterFA> I installed apache2, php5, the module for php5 and apache2, restarted apache2 and it serves PHP unparsed.
[05:06] <medfly> X failed to start on boot all of a sudden. :( I think it's a failed update or so.
[05:06] <Linuxpwns> joeyr: How did you install PLOP to your USB device?
[05:06] <medfly> how do I do those updates without X running?
[05:06] <HeColdFeet> medfly: apt-get upgrade
[05:06] <HeColdFeet> medfly: or apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:07] <medfly> oh yeah okay just found it too, thanks
[05:07]  * medfly tries
[05:07] <medfly> this is really horrible panicking in 3,2...
[05:07] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: downloaded from firefox, copied to my 1G and then extracted the zip inside. I'm using plpbt-5.0.11-2
[05:08] <medfly> nope :(
[05:09] <medfly> has sanyone had any problems like that here lately?
[05:09] <medfly> X not starting.
[05:09] <Linuxpwns> joeyr: So I take your BIOS does not support booting off USB drives?
[05:10] <Photocopy> soreau: i cant change the order of buttons on emerald?
[05:10] <soreau> medfly: Can you boot into recovery mode?
[05:11] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: No, because I have Linux on my external and after I installed it, windows automatically booted up.
[05:11] <soreau> Photocopy: Sure you can
[05:11] <soreau> Photocopy: Somewhere in etm, there is a cryptic string you change.. it has text explaining exactly how to use it
[05:11] <medfly> I am on the computer right now, but with no X. it says that fglrx had trouble starting the driver (?) and later complains there is no capable screen found
[05:11] <dsnyders> Anybody know a good primer/tutorial site for IPv6?
[05:11] <medfly> I'll try to upgrade it
[05:12] <medfly> wait nvm
[05:12] <medfly> it said something about another package
[05:12] <medfly> linux-headers-generic.
[05:12] <soreau> medfly: sudo apt-get remove fglrx && sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf && sudo reboot
[05:12] <soreau> medfly: That should get X starting at least
[05:13] <Linuxpwns> joeyr, are you on the same machine that boots up windows automatically or a separate one?
[05:13] <medfly> soreau: thanks dude
[05:13] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: What I'll try doing is turning off my computer and seeing if I could press f8 or something and see if it will let me, but I don't think it will
[05:13] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: Same machine. I have Linux on an external hd
[05:13] <Linuxpwns> joeyr, restart the machine that has your problem hit ESC to enter boot options... if you do not see your USB device listed as a possible option your bios does not support booting to your external
[05:14] <rlankfo> help! i can't do anything with apt-get becuase it is constantly hanging up on the same broken package
[05:14] <soreau> rlankfo: Have you tried removing this package?
[05:14] <rlankfo> yessir, hangs
[05:14] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: Alright thanks! I'll be back here if it doesn't work.
[05:14] <Linuxpwns> Sure.
[05:14] <soreau> rlankfo: pastebin the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[05:15] <Photocopy> soreau: It just really doesnt look right, still. I don't know
[05:15] <rlankfo> http://pastebin.com/Z2LWU9cT
[05:15] <rlankfo> even trying to install another package
[05:15] <rlankfo> it'll hang
[05:15] <soreau> ! emerald | Photocopy
[05:15] <rlankfo> right there
[05:15] <Photocopy> soreau: except metacity (although it's not for compiz specifically)
[05:16] <Photocopy> soreau: gimme a sec and ill show you
[05:16] <soreau> Photocopy: Actually, there is an alternative to emerald at least.. kde-window-decorator can do emerald themes with some help from smaragd
[05:16] <dogarrhea> holy crap
[05:17] <rlankfo> any ideas?
[05:17] <dogarrhea> is ignore list management a WISHLIST item?
[05:17] <HeColdFeet> rlankfo: deleting the file /var/lib/dpkg/info/request-tracker3.8.postinst will fix this
[05:17] <dogarrhea> how bad can ubuntu for desktop be...
[05:17] <nicolaus> who can help me block people from downloading torrents on my network
[05:17] <nicolaus> whats the port number for torrents
[05:17] <HeColdFeet> rlankfo: but after that I suggest reinstalling the package
[05:17] <soreau> rlankfo: That looks very broken
[05:18] <Photocopy> soreau: hmm. Okay, so now compiz and metacity have become mutually exclusive
[05:18] <Photocopy> soreau: setting metacity --replace turns off compiz on me now
[05:18] <soreau> Photocopy: That's how it's supposed to work.
[05:18] <soreau> Photocopy: Only one window manager can run at a time
[05:18] <Photocopy> soreau: well before anything we just did, i had metacity running with compiz just fine
[05:18] <soreau> Photocopy: To use metacity theme in compiz, start compiz then run gtk-window-decorator --replace
[05:19] <Knio> fork()/sys_clone()/process creation in general is really slow on some of my ubuntu machines, any idea what could cause this?
[05:19] <Photocopy> thanks soreau
[05:19] <soreau> Photocopy: You're not running metacity, you're running a compiz decorator that is using the metacity theme
[05:19] <medfly> soreau: should I do a bug report? I didn't do anything too special to cause it (except updating packages)
[05:20] <soreau> medfly: Did X start?
[05:20] <medfly> soreau: it did now
[05:20] <Photocopy> soreau: okay. regardless; the non-emerald looks like this
[05:20] <Photocopy> soreau: http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4159/screenshothmc.png
[05:20] <soreau> medfly: Don't get halfway through a driver install and expect it to work. Also, the default open source radeon driver is fully capable these days
[05:20] <Photocopy> soreau: and i guess I didn't try very heart, i could probably get emerald closer, but this was emerald; http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/6046/derpz.png
[05:21] <Linuxpwns> Knio: Those machines running ubuntu are lacking resources? (low RAM, not multi-core processors, etc?)
[05:21] <theamazingbeat> is anyone a cygwin guru
[05:21] <medfly> soreau: the driver worked previously. I think ubuntu asked me to upgrade the kernel, and that somehow had trouble in the middle.
[05:21] <soreau> medfly: There's always trouble with proprietary drivers
[05:21] <medfly> not multi core processors = lacking in resources. oh my god, it's 2011 :D
[05:22] <medfly> soreau: I see, OK.
[05:22] <soreau> Photocopy: Looks like it's just missing the titlebar text
[05:22] <moonchild> hey guys, I'm wondering if someone here can help me with an NFS question
[05:22] <soreau> medfly: If you'd like to use latest radeon drivers, install xorg-edgers repo
[05:22] <medfly> soreau: well, it's all right now, I'll worry about getting it again later :)
[05:22] <Knio> Linuxpwns: nope. as far as I can tell everything is the same as the machines where its fast (they are running the same set of services with the same load, almost identical hardware, etc)
[05:22] <Photocopy> soreau: thats what i experimented with emerald for; i wanted to see what no titlebar text would look like and they said i cant do it in gtk-window-decorator/whateverthehell default is
[05:22] <soreau> medfly: Yea, you're using the open driver now
[05:23] <saned> shoot moonchild; I'm not an expert but someone else may chime in
[05:23] <soreau> Photocopy: It's entirely your preference but I think they look close enough
[05:23] <medfly> soreau: with how much I upgraded, it'd probably be faster than I'm used to anyway
[05:23] <The_Pharoah> what are the reasons for programmers to use linux? i heard something about better libraries or something
[05:23] <Photocopy> soreau; also an annoying 1 or 2 pixel thing appeared under my wifi icon on my panel and its driving me insane. idk why its there
[05:23] <medfly> :)
[05:23] <moonchild> ...I'm trying to mount a directory off of one machine onto another, password files are sinked, I have no_root_squash in my export options
[05:23] <Photocopy> you can see it in the screenshots soreau
[05:23] <Linuxpwns> Knio: What about the priority of the process itself?
[05:24] <moonchild> and on the client, the UID/GID of the files is coming up as 4294967294
[05:24] <The_Pharoah> why should programmers use linux?
[05:24] <soreau> Photocopy: Try restarting gnome-panel?
[05:24] <Linuxpwns> The_Pharoah: Because its open source.
[05:24] <The_Pharoah> so how do i see the code?
[05:24] <andruha> can someone help with my Kubuntu system? it gets really, REALLy slow after a day or two.. I would rather not restart it as I dont want to interrupt what is running
[05:24] <Linuxpwns> download it
[05:24] <joeyr> linuxpwns: Wouldn't let me boot from my external. It gives me the option, but then it says "no bootable device found."
[05:25] <Photocopy> soreau; still there
[05:25] <soreau> Photocopy: Oh well, not telling
[05:25] <Linuxpwns> So your bios allows you to boot from your external drive?
[05:25] <moonchild> Linuxpwns: plently of stuff is open source, doesn't mean I'll use it :P
[05:25] <Knio> Linuxpwns: I don't think we've changed anything there
[05:25] <haoyihuan> #ubuntu-cn
[05:25] <theamazingbeat> so no one here knows anything aout cygwin (i know it is on a windows platform, but i really need some info)
[05:25] <haoyihuan> how to enter ubuntu-cn ?
[05:25] <The_Pharoah> Linuxpwns: so how do i see the source code?
[05:25] <duanedesign> The_Pharoah: apt-gget source <package>
[05:25] <soreau> The_Pharoah: The source to what? The linux kernel?
[05:26] <rww> haoyihuan: /join #ubuntu-cn
[05:26] <ac7ss_> andruha: what does top show (for the header) system load, memory useage. et.
[05:26] <haoyihuan>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[05:26] <The_Pharoah> lol
[05:26] <The_Pharoah> i dunno
[05:26] <soreau> haoyihuan: No space preceeding
[05:26] <The_Pharoah> i was just wondering if there was any advantage to programming in linux
[05:26] <Linuxpwns> Knio: On a machine that is running perfectly fine, are the specs identical? Same CPU, RAM, etc...
[05:26] <The_Pharoah> than programming in windows or OS X
[05:26] <haoyihuan> join #ubuntu-cn
[05:26] <Linuxpwns> Same OS? etc
[05:26] <haoyihuan> ?
[05:26] <haoyihuan> #ubuntu-cn
[05:26] <moonchild> The_Pharoah: linux has a remarkably clean low-level api
[05:27] <duanedesign> The_Pharoah: apt-get source <package>   That will get the source for all the packages(programs) in the Ubuntu repos. You can also go to sites like Launchpad and Sourceforge
[05:27] <ac7ss_> Pharoah what language are you programming in? what are you writing?
[05:27] <Linuxpwns> moonchild: Well said
[05:27] <soreau> The_Pharoah: It's much more programmer-friendly, but you can configure any environment of your choice to be convenient
[05:27] <The_Pharoah> java, python, c++, html
[05:28] <moonchild> I can't necessarily say the same for the user-facing interfaces of distros like ubuntu, but that's a flame-war that I don't want to get into
[05:28] <Knio> Linuxpwns: slightly different model of CPU, probably same for mb/ram, but all are comparable. tasks that don't involve fork() all complete in the same times, fork() is ~100 times slower on one
[05:28] <Saturn2888> how does Ubuntu take 4K sectors into account? As far as I know, Linux cannot
[05:28] <The_Pharoah> moonchild: so i dont really know what api is/does
[05:28] <ac7ss_> The_Pharoah: what audience are you looking at? that makes all the difference.
[05:28] <joeyr> The_Pharoah: if you type in "programming" or the language of interest in the Ubuntu software center, you'll find a lot of cool things.
[05:28] <kontagious> where can i see the man pages for ACL
[05:28] <moonchild> Saturn2888: 4K sectors? on disk?
[05:28] <ac7ss_> google "man ACL"
[05:29] <The_Pharoah> ac7ss_: programmers
[05:29] <Linuxpwns> Knio: Same kernel version as well?
[05:29] <andruha> ac7ss_, when idling it uses barely any resources, but the moment i try to open something the cpu jumps to 100%...
[05:30] <moonchild> andruha: for how long?
[05:30] <soreau> The_Pharoah: maybe you could use come channel like ##linux, ##programming or any of the languages of your choice.
[05:30] <Jordan_U> Saturn2888: Linux can handle 4K sectors fine, though almost no BIOSs can and it's very rare. That error has nothing to do with 4K sectors.
[05:30] <ac7ss_> andruha: what is memory looking like?
[05:30] <Jordan_U> Saturn2888: What program did you use to make the USB?
[05:30] <soreau> The_Pharoah: We already know everyone here is using linux but in those other channels, maybe some do not
[05:30] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: I was wondering if I should just put plop on my external hard drive along with linux instead of having a USB.
[05:30] <andruha> moonchild, for atleast 30-50 seconds (thin only happens if the system has been running for a day +)
[05:30] <Knio> Linuxpwns: fast one is 2.6.32-30 and slow one is -26 :/ I can't reboot it to the newer kernel though. maybe I can find a different machine with the same kernel
[05:30] <ac7ss_> The_Pharoah: are you making programming tools?
[05:31] <andruha> ac7ss_, plenty of free memory
[05:31] <huabao> Where are you from ?
[05:31] <The_Pharoah> soreau: most of them are invite only :(
[05:31] <soreau> ! register | The_Pharoah
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> Knio: try holding shift at boot. You could also try running: sudo update-grub
[05:31] <moonchild> andruha: sounds like you are using either too much swap, have too many apps open or have a badly behaving program running
[05:31] <The_Pharoah> its already registered??
[05:31] <Knio> nah I mean its running the live website :)
[05:32] <soreau> The_Pharoah: Many of them required your nick to be registered due to problems with spam and such
[05:32] <Linuxpwns> Knio: I see.  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade does not work on the offending machine?
[05:32] <The_Pharoah> soreau: ok, i think i already registered mine though
[05:32] <andruha> moonchild, im using 30% of ram and 0% of swap
[05:32] <ajin> my girlfriend wanna use ubuntu
[05:32] <soreau> The_Pharoah: Which channel can you not join?
[05:32] <Knio> it works, but you need to reboot for it to be running the new kernel
[05:32] <ajin> anyone has idea?
[05:32] <Saturn2888> Jordan_U: hi again Jordan. The one from ubuntu.com. Some LinuxPenDrive thing; not unetbootin as usual
[05:33] <Knio> it has the new kernel, just hasn't been rebooted
[05:33] <soreau> ajin: Give her a live cd?
[05:33] <Linuxpwns> Knio: And you cannot reboot at this time, correct?
[05:33] <moonchild> andruha: don't know, maybe you got rooted?
[05:33] <duanedesign> The_Pharoah: your nick is registered '/msg NickServ INFO The_Pharoah '
[05:33] <Knio> yeah
[05:33] <ajin> yes, this might be a good idea
[05:33] <ac7ss> Is your wait % going really high?
[05:33] <Jordan_U> Saturn2888: Try following the instructions on the download page @ Ubuntu.com.
[05:33] <tripelbb> where are pidgin log files?
[05:33] <Linuxpwns> Knio: You are currently using the server in production enviornment right now... am I correct?
[05:33] <andruha> wait %? whats that?
[05:33] <Knio> yup
[05:33] <duanedesign> The_Pharoah: but i do dnot think you are identified
[05:33] <Saturn2888> moonchild: yes. Jordan_U for 4K sectors, I have a pair of WD10EARS I bought. I've setup 4K in ZFS before in FreeBSD, but never done it in Linux. All I've read, it has issues. the most I can do is align, but I can't tell the partition the size of the sector or write area is 4K, not 512-bytes
[05:34] <moonchild> tripelbb: ~/.purple/logs
[05:34] <Linuxpwns> Knio: Do I get a cookie for that correct answer? Not the tracking kind.
[05:34] <The_Pharoah> i tried joining #java
[05:34] <ac7ss> the 3rd line of top. shows where the useage is.
[05:34] <tripelbb> thanks moonchild
[05:34] <duanedesign> The_Pharoah: Last seen  : Jan 28 09:44:53 2011 (7 weeks, 3 days, 19:48:33 ago)
[05:34] <Knio> yeah :)
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> The_Pharoah: I'd ask in #freenode about registering
[05:34] <Saturn2888> Jordan_U: what instructions are there for the server version?
[05:34] <The_Pharoah> ok
[05:35] <Linuxpwns> Knio: All of the machines which are using sys_clone have the same identical source code across all the platforms...  correct?
[05:35] <ac7ss> Cpu(s):  4.6%us,  2.0%sy, 93.2%ni,  0.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.2%si,  0.0%st
[05:35] <The_Pharoah> is there a seperate chat room for terminal questions too or can i ask those here
[05:35] <Jordan_U> Saturn2888: Try following the ones for the Desktop version.
[05:35] <Linuxpwns> i.e the code is the same on machine 1, machine 2 ,etc
[05:35] <moonchild> Saturn2888: modern drives don't use CHS for addressing, so meh
[05:35] <Jordan_U> Saturn2888: If they don't work you'll need to use the minimal install CD.
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> The_Pharoah: as long as they are terminal questions in ubuntu, its fine :)
[05:35] <Jordan_U> Saturn2888: *minimal install CD image, written to a USB.
[05:36] <moonchild> so is anyone here at all competent w/ NFS?
[05:36] <Knio> Linuxpwns: yeah. its not our code that's slow, but running anything on the machine (like bash login scripts which fork a lot and call other scripts..)
[05:36] <The_Pharoah> ActionParsnip: lol ok, I was wondering if there was a command that shows everything hooked up to the router my laptop is hooked up with
[05:37] <ac7ss> The_Pharoah: I have a small shell script that shows all the valid pings.
[05:37] <Saturn2888> Jordan_U: yeah, I've written to an old CD-RW I had lying around. I hate that it never works from USB no matter which I use. I can get into the installer and everything, just doesn't seem to notice sdd1 is mounted in /cdrom.
[05:37] <moonchild> Knio: actually, if profiling the system, I bet bash is *the least* of the problems
[05:37] <The_Pharoah> ac7ss: how did you make the script though
[05:37] <Saturn2888> moonchild: but sector size is more like an allocation unit in Windows. So long as files are not written less than 4K, I should be fine
[05:37] <ac7ss> The_Pharoah: it's a bash script....
[05:37] <soreau> ! download ajin
[05:38] <soreau> ! download | ajin
[05:38] <The_Pharoah> ac7ss: ah ok
[05:38] <Saturn2888> moonchild: Since this is a server and it will be logging a lot, I need to make sure it does that quickly.
[05:38] <Da|Mummy> whats crossover have over wine?
[05:38] <ajin> soreau:hi
[05:38] <soreau> ajin: hello
[05:38] <moonchild> Saturn2888: modern FS's allow you to tune the *blocks* per inode
[05:38] <ajin> soreau: hello
[05:39] <moonchild> typically for ext2/3/4 that defaults to 4k
[05:39] <Saturn2888> Jordan_U: I followed the instructions though, not that I had to, and yes, it didn't work right huh. At least it works from CD, but that's really annoying since only a few rigs of mine have optical drives these days
[05:39] <Saturn2888> moonchild: oh really?
[05:39] <ac7ss> The_Pharoah: basically a do/while loop pinging each address in my subnet.
[05:39] <moonchild> Saturn2888: man mke2fs
[05:39] <Linuxpwns> knio: have you tried  "clone"?
[05:39] <Saturn2888> moonchild: I should be fine then
[05:40] <Jordan_U> Saturn2888: The minimal install CD image will work, but then you'll have to download all the packages from the network during install (not too bad if you setup a local mirror).
[05:40] <moonchild> yeah, what's you're issue?
[05:40] <Saturn2888> Time to align partitions then. And I'm assuming Ubuntu's installer doesn't allow you to do RAID1 when it detects 2 same drives
[05:40] <joeyr> Linuxpwns:Do I have to do something with the iso for plop?
[05:40] <The_Pharoah> ah so they are just MAC addresses
[05:40] <Knio> Linuxpwns: strace shows clone() being slow, my own benchmark used fork() (not sure what kernel call fork uses exactly)
[05:40] <Saturn2888> Jordan_U: oh it's okay. I got the whole CD
[05:41] <moonchild> Saturn2888: actually you'll have to try a few different things to figure out what works
[05:41] <Jordan_U> Saturn2888: What do you mean by "2 same drives"? Why would identical drives be a problem?
[05:41] <ajin> i guess everyone here might persuade our girlfriend or any female in our family into using ubuntu(linux),lol
[05:41] <tripelbb> moonchild, I aint got no .purple in nautilus (yes I see hidden files.)  BUT in terminal I see it. Arg?
[05:41] <The_Pharoah> ajin: linux is for people who are good with computers though....
[05:41] <Saturn2888> Jordan_U: in most installers it gives me a RAID1 option when partitioning to install. Ubuntu Server's installer is not.
[05:41] <moonchild> I can tell you that HW raid solutions are a lot more ridgid than linux's sw raid
[05:41] <tripelbb> ajin, what's up? needa female perspective?
[05:41]  * ac7ss got his wife to use it. just had to prove that her games worked under WINE
[05:42] <soreau> The_Pharoah: Not exclusively, anyone can use linux
[05:42] <moonchild> tripelbb: blame it on the gnome folks trying to hide shit from yo
[05:42] <tripelbb> but moonie, I see .xchat2 and many many moe.
[05:42] <Linuxpwns> joeyr: I would use the Universal USB installer from www.pendrivelinux.com, boot into Windows on your machine and "burn" the ISO image to your USB drive using that utility. Select "unsupported" if PLOP isnt available as a option. Before you do this, copy the ISo to your desktop in windows, then format your drive as FAT32. Then open Universal USB program and browse for your ISO and burn!
[05:42] <Saturn2888> moonchild: really? Yeah, I don't have any faster hardware RAID that allow monitoring in Linux. Why would I have to play around with it? And do you know if Ubuntu boots from GPT?
[05:42] <The_Pharoah> soreau: but really if you aern't in a computer related career you're gonna be using Windows or OS X
[05:42] <tripelbb> moonchild, why would they do that to me.
[05:42] <moonchild> tripelbb: i think there's an option in nautilus to view those files
[05:43] <ac7ss> 90% of computer usage is now web based. Give them a good browser and let them know it is safer from viruses, easy to transition.
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> tripelbb: press CTRL+H
[05:43] <soreau> The_Pharoah: That's simply not a true statement, Also, it doesn't have much to ubuntu, so let's try to stay on topic
[05:43] <moonchild> Saturn2888: GPT?
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> ac7ss: amen
[05:43] <Jordan_U> Saturn2888: Yes, Ubuntu supports GPT, and uses it by default for drives larger than 2 TiB.
[05:43] <tripelbb> moonchild, i can see hiddenfiles already. as I said I see .schat2 and many more.
[05:43] <Linuxpwns> Knio: I'm not a programming expert but from what I gather, "fork" create a new addres space while "clone" share address space between parent and child
[05:43] <Saturn2888> Jordan_U: oh ok cool. moonchild <-
[05:43] <tripelbb> moonchild, I did cntl-F for .purple
[05:43] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: Format my 1G as Fat32?
[05:44] <Linuxpwns> Correct.
[05:44] <moonchild> Linuxpwns: it's a little more complicated than that
[05:44] <ac7ss> The_Pharoah: I am in a M$ environment at work, but use Linux for nearly everything outside of work.
[05:44] <Jordan_U> Saturn2888: Make sure that if you partition manually you create a BIOS boot partition (automatic partitioning creates one): http://grub.enbug.org/BIOS_Boot_Partition
[05:44] <moonchild> fork & clone are more or less the same call
[05:44] <tripelbb> moonchild, I have cured my stupidity. (blush)
[05:45] <moonchild> the difference is that fork's new address space is copy-on-write
[05:45] <Saturn2888> Jordan_U: gonna use Gparted in GUI mode to do that so I get 2MB out in front of the partition
[05:45] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: For the record I'm on a live cd now, so I haven't gotten to experience "actual" Linux, which is why I'm trying to acess my internal.
[05:45] <ajin> TKS FOR YOUR ECHO
[05:45] <The_Pharoah> ac7ss: well most people would probably use the google netbook if they only go on facebook and twitter
[05:45] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: I mean external
[05:45] <The_Pharoah> ac7ss: or an ipad
[05:45] <dave_cave10-10> guys help, im in the middle of a raid in WOW and i restarted my computer after deleted Ubuntu a few days ago and forgot, now it messed up grub, im at a grub rescue screen and i need to boot into windows 7 please someone send me a privite message and help
[05:45] <Linuxpwns> moonchild: I see. Clone just uses more address space?
[05:46] <moonchild> Linuxpwns: clone is lower-level than fork
[05:46] <Saturn2888> Jordan_U: I will make my CF card /boot as I've been doing. Seems like I shouldn't have issues this way. Is there anything special I have to do in the installer to make sure the CF card is /boot? After installing do I modify fstab? seems like the right way to do things.
[05:46] <Linuxpwns> Aah.
[05:46] <ajin> dave_cave:
[05:46] <moonchild> and used for threading & forking
[05:46] <ajin> i can help
[05:47] <Chr|s> how do I share a wifi connection, with the nic, connected to the router, so ppl can connect to it
[05:47] <moonchild> plus clone isn't portable across different unixes
[05:48] <ac7ss> Chris: I take it the router is not WiFi?
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> The_Pharoah: or a cheap lappy with xpud :)
[05:48] <soreau> Chr|s: hostapd
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> !ics | Chr|s
[05:48] <Jordan_U> Saturn2888: Just create a partition on the CF card and set its mountpoint to /boot/ and you won't need to do any fstab modification.
[05:48] <moonchild> funny, I just spent 2 weekends wrestling with the router issue
[05:49] <Linuxpwns> moonchild: Thanks for the info.
[05:49] <moonchild> ...trying to undo everything that NetworkManager does poorly :P
[05:50] <ac7ss> moonchild: configure ifup. :) use iwconfig and ifconfig.
[05:50] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: Format my 1G as Fat32? I don't want to format my Linux partition on my external again.
[05:50] <Linuxpwns> joeyr: I see.
[05:50] <moonchild> ac7ss: yeah, I have a bit more that I needed to do than that :)
[05:51] <moonchild> now I'm slogging through NFS head
[05:51] <Linuxpwns> joeyr:  You used a live cd to install ubuntu to your external drive correct?
[05:51] <moonchild> *hell
[05:51] <Saturn2888> Jordan_U: mountpoint? The way I did it before was to boot from the CF card and I think  or something and that loaded the RAID1. I don't know exactly what I did. But something like that. I'm switching this system from the one that had the GRUB problems. I'm sure you remember it :P
[05:52] <moonchild> for the life of me, I don't understand why the UID of every file on my NFS mount is coming up as 4294967294
[05:52] <Jordan_U> Saturn2888: I help out with a lot of grub problems so you'll need to refresh my memory :)
[05:52] <Linuxpwns> moonchild: whats your take on Unity?
[05:53] <moonchild> unity is the netbook OS thingy?
[05:53] <Linuxpwns> It's meant for that but you can install it on Ubuntu Desktop Editions
[05:54] <moonchild> I'm mixed on it
[05:54] <Linuxpwns> Ubuntu 11.04 comes with it packaged I believe
[05:54] <moonchild> I don't like the way the selection browser hides the windows
[05:55] <moonchild> but I'm kinda an odd nut in terms of UI's
[05:55] <Linuxpwns> It has a few bugs to work out  but it has its ups and downs.
[05:55] <Linuxpwns> moonchild: Same. I'm a fan of the mintMenu myself.
[05:55] <moonchild> I actually prefer the ~1997 linux UI (fvwm) better than anything around today
[05:56] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: correct
[05:56] <Linuxpwns> not familiar with that hahaha I've only been on Linux for a few weeks!
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> moonchild: you can use devilspie (with gdevilspie from googlecode) to manually specify how app windows behave :)
[05:56] <moonchild> Linuxpwns: it kinda resembled windows 3.11
[05:57] <Saturn2888> Jordan_U: http://badmarkup.com/gparted/ no? Something where GRUB was really compliacted and I had to chroot and I had hardy for the longest time, then I upgraded to Lucid finally when the version of my software came out and GRUB was still a pain. Then now I'm getting rid of that. I got 2x1TB drives so I wanna install Ubuntu 10.10 fresh and not worry about the builds I'd been using. I'm going at it without that special networking soft
[05:57] <Mrwootwoot> is anyone good with setting desktop backgrounds
[05:57] <Mrwootwoot> ?
[05:57] <joeyr> Anybody familiar with making an external drive with linux bootable?
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> Linuxpwns: i'm warming to it, although I prefer lxde personally
[05:57] <moonchild> ActionParsnip: I was honestly just looking ato the code for that last weekend
[05:57] <Linuxpwns> joeyr: When you pressed ESC (aka boot options) did your external drive show up as a device?
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> Mrwootwoot: I can use gui and cli to do it, so yes
[05:57] <ac7ss> mrwootwoot: what part of it?
[05:57] <mod> whenever I try to apt-get update,  it fails to resolt mx.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:57] <mod> when i go there in my browser its fine
[05:57] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: Yes but it said it wasn't bootable
[05:58] <Mrwootwoot> I'm trying to set up a background that updates
[05:58] <Mrwootwoot> but it's not updating
[05:58] <mod> its at the point now taht I cannot update my system
[05:58] <mod> any idea what I can do?
[05:58] <moonchild> ActionParsnip: I believe that using Esetroot should set it for you
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> Mrwootwoot: like a changing background over time?
[05:58] <Linuxpwns> My favorite casual play-around-on-have-fun distro is tie between Mint/Ubuntu. My favorite distro is Backtrack 4. I'm studying to become a penetration tester. I love those tools.
[05:58] <Mrwootwoot> ActionParsnip, yeah
[05:58] <soreau> mod: Can you ping google.com ok?
[05:58] <The_Pharoah> When I log in i did something in terminal to make an appearance preference window open every time, how do i stop this from happening?
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> moonchild: maybe, i've always used devilspie
[05:58] <ac7ss> Mrwootwoot: are you using a script to change it?
[05:58] <Mrwootwoot> ActionParsnip, 1 sec and i'll get the link to show you
[05:58] <Mrwootwoot> no
[05:59] <mod> soreau, hah yeah and chat on irc lol
[05:59] <moonchild> mod: edit /etc/apt/sources.list & /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* and change the 'mx' to a 'us' or a 'ca'
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> Mrwootwoot: gconftool-2 -t str --set /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename "/path/to/some/image.jpg"
[05:59] <mod> sigh... N: Ignoring file 'getdeb.list.bck' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[06:00] <soreau> mod: ping mx.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[06:00] <Mrwootwoot> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apnppJtWBJU ActionParsnip
[06:00] <The_Pharoah> how do i get rid of the appearance preferences window that opens every time i boot?
[06:00] <Mrwootwoot> ActionParsnip, i'm using a tool called Scheduled aATasks
[06:00] <The_Pharoah> its before i log in
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> mod: sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/getdeb.list.bck /etc/apt/sources.list.d/getdeb.list               make sure /etc/apt/sources.list.d/getdeb.list   doesn't currently exist
[06:00] <Mrwootwoot> Tasks+
[06:00] <mod> ActionParsnip, was thinking of that myself till i saw it was epty
[06:01] <mod> empty
[06:01] <mod> something is really messed up
[06:01] <mod> i should've never gone to 11
[06:01] <The_Pharoah> Im trying to get rid of an appearance preference window that opens every time i boot
[06:01] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: eventually when I get this squared away I want to put multiple Linux distros on there. Backtrack sounds fun.
[06:01] <Mrwootwoot> ActionParsnip, i found a "fix" for it though but it didnt work.... here's the link to what i tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1649670
[06:02] <The_Pharoah> its at the login screen
[06:02] <mod> ok now that i deleted the .bck its working better... cannot figure out where its look for the mx address
[06:02] <soreau> ! 11.04 | mod
[06:02] <Linuxpwns> joeyr: Yeah hacking wep in under 1 minute is fun haha
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> mod: #ubuntu+1 for all natty support
[06:02] <mod> soreau... yeah you're telling me, heh
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> Mrwootwoot: you can do the same with cron and a script..
[06:02] <ammy> Hi all i am using a ubuntu 10.10 and i wanted to know how i  can get the log of an application which i am running ?
[06:02] <The_Pharoah> which is easier to hack WPA or WEP?
[06:03] <soreau> The_Pharoah: This isnt a hacking channel. Ask #aircrack-ng
[06:03] <Mrwootwoot> i'm on day 2 of linux ActionParsnip  do you mind walking me through it?
[06:03] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: Backtrack would definitley be fun on a laptop. If you know how to hack, you'll never go without wi-fi.
[06:03] <Mrwootwoot> sorry :(
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> Mrwootwoot: http://joeamined.wordpress.com/2008/02/15/automatically-changing-wallpaper-relatively-to-daytime-in-ubuntu/
[06:03] <The_Pharoah> soreau: i was just wondering since linuxpwns was talking about it
[06:03] <mod> thanks all
[06:03] <The_Pharoah> soreau: can you help me get the appearance preference page off of my login screen though?
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> joeyr: backtrack is offtopic here and not supported here either
[06:04] <Mrwootwoot> ActionParsnip,  ok lemme take a look at that link
[06:04] <soreau> The_Pharoah: I dont think so..
[06:04] <ammy> my gdesklet is crashing , so i filed that bug , they asked my to  post the gDesklets log (~/.logs/*.log) and the names of any displays you had open? I am currently using ubuntu 10.10 . kindly help me out
[06:05] <ammy> my gdesklet is crashing , so i filed that bug , they asked my to  post the gDesklets log (~/.logs/*.log) and the names of any displays i had open? how to get it  I am currently using ubuntu 10.10 . kindly help me out
[06:05] <soreau> The_Pharoah: Do you remember how you enabled the appearance gui for it?
[06:05] <The_Pharoah> soreau: nvm i fixed it, google is awesome
[06:06] <hrezaei>  hi people! I'm sorry! I have some problems installing zend studio on ubuntu. where to ask my questions? can anyone help me?
[06:06] <The_Pharoah> soreau:what was the channel for hacking peoples routers? lol
[06:06] <soreau> The_Pharoah: There is none
[06:06] <halpbatman> aircrack-ng
[06:06] <Saturn2888> Jordan_U: don't worry. I'll have more specific questions as I start doing this more
[06:07] <Linuxpwns> The_Pharoh: wep definitely... WPA requires you to deauthenticate an already associated wireless client on the WPA network. In other words if there is no wireless traffic you can't get a handshake which is needed to launch cracking tool
[06:07] <The_Pharoah> soreau: linuxpwns was talking about hacking wep
[06:07] <halpbatman> ?
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> The_Pharoah: try ##networking or ##hacking
[06:07] <Mrwootwoot> ActionParsnip, is there a way to change the script to where it automatically downloads the picture from the website and updates the wallpaper every 3 hours instead of just 4 times a day?
[06:08] <Linuxpwns> ActionParsnip: Correct this is not the right place to discuss those tools.
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> Mrwootwoot: I've seen stuff on omgubuntu which grabs images from NASA. Depends if that floats your boat
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> Linuxpwns: hence I directed the user to a different channel...
[06:08] <bazhang> halpbatman, /join #aircrack-ng
[06:09] <halpbatman> bazhang: sup?
[06:09] <LorgonJortle> Hey everyone.
[06:10] <qu|x> Hey LorgonJortle
[06:10] <Saturn2888> quick question, is it normal to spend 4 min partitioning ext4 for 1TB?
[06:10] <soreau> hi LorgonJortle
[06:10] <The_Pharoah> sdf
[06:10] <pbear> how do i not use the network manager to get on the internet?\
[06:10] <soreau> pbear: How do you connect?
[06:10] <ac7ss> pbear: ifconfig
[06:11] <ac7ss> pbear: iwconfig
[06:11] <syrinx_> !ifconfig
[06:11] <Linuxpwns> pbear: terminal, aka "ifconfig"
[06:11] <LorgonJortle> I just installed Win7 on a 40GB partition, and I'm tryin' to bring Grub2 back to life. I reinstalled it as per the Ubuntu help doc for "Restoring Grub after Windows installation", but now when I boot I get not but a black screen. What gives?
[06:11] <syrinx_> :(
[06:11] <pbear> i was trying to do something and uninstalled the network manager. what i was trying to do was disable it at startup
[06:11] <mysteriousdarren> yes its normal, consider all the space and to install it all
[06:12] <Mrwootwoot> ActionParsnip, I found the script but I dont know how to manipulate it to update more often
[06:12] <Auriga> Q: Do we all get the compiz -- replace issue, or is it just me?
[06:12] <soreau> Auriga: compiz -- replace issue?
[06:13] <pbear> Linuxpwns: how would i use, for example eth0?
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> Mrwootwoot: it's in the cron file, those are the hours it will change at
[06:13] <Auriga> soreau, Are you new to Linux?
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> Auriga: works fine here
[06:13] <Linuxpwns> pbear: ifconfig eth0 up  then  dhclient  to enable DHCP and that should get you online
[06:13] <soreau> pbear: dhclient eth0
[06:14] <soreau> pbear: Assuming its connected to a device with dhcp setup
[06:14] <Saturn2888> Jordan_U: forgot to tag you: quick question, is it normal to spend 4 min partitioning ext4 for 1TB?
[06:14] <soreau> Auriga: What does you mean by compiz --replace issue?
[06:14] <Linuxpwns> soreau: 9 out of 10 chances it is....
[06:14] <joeyr> I can't boot Linux on my external. Suggestions?
[06:14] <Auriga> soreau, Judging by what you are writing I will assume not... the compiz - - replace, when you have to type replace to get back the window borders & buttons.
[06:14] <soreau> Auriga: Are you having some problem with compiz?
[06:14] <Linuxpwns> joeyr: Your motherboard does not support it most likely i'm afraid.
[06:15] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: I was thinking I could make it from a cd instead of a usb. Put plop on a cd
[06:15] <Auriga> soreau, Nothing I can't fix. Though I think you missed my point...
[06:16] <soreau> Auriga: You are wasting time by asking questions
[06:16] <Auriga> ActionParsnip, You never have to replace your GUI?
[06:16] <Linuxpwns> joeyr: Your original intentions is to use linux on your external drive though
[06:16] <Auriga> soreau, You are wasting time by being a moron.
[06:16] <bddb> dddd
[06:16] <LorgonJortle> So, after reinstalling GRUB2, I tried doing a 'sudo update-grub' but that gives me an error asking if dev is mounted... And I'm still getting just a black screen when I boot.
[06:16] <LorgonJortle> Any ideas?
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> Auriga: how do you mean by gui....?
[06:17] <Linuxpwns> joeyr: Have you considered disassembling the case of your external drive and extracting the SATA drive and then slaving it onto your desktop? Then just using it as a regular sata HDD.
[06:17] <Auriga> ActionParsnip, Sorry not the gui, just the window buttons.
[06:17] <Mrwootwoot> ActionParsnip, I'm looking through this file https://gist.github.com/835062 but i dont see a cron anywhere in there
[06:17] <dombnexen> hi i have my streaming radio and i wont to play from linux in this streaming radio how i can do this?
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> Auriga: oh, the window decorator?
[06:18] <Linuxpwns> Or if its IDE, slaving it as a 2nd drive... etc
[06:18] <Auriga> ActionParsnip, Yeah basically.
[06:18] <joeyr> Linuxpwns: I was wondering if I could copy the boot.ini file onto my flashdrive so it can say "hey, go to the external first" I don't want to do any disassembling.
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> Mrwootwoot: thats because it will run as a continual process. The script in the page I gave is a script whih runs when cron tells it to
[06:19] <Auriga> ActionParsnip, I think you have never had the issue, it's a little odd to explain what happens.
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> Auriga: there is emerald which you can apply themes to very easily
[06:19] <arnold_> testing irc, say hello to me please. :)
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> hi arnold_
[06:19] <Auriga> ActionParsnip, I'm not talking about themes.
[06:19] <Knio> Linuxpwns: I found another machine with the same kernel (-26) and workload as the slow one, but it's fast
[06:19] <soreau> hey arnold_
[06:19] <python__> arnold: whats up baby
[06:19] <pbear> Linuxpwns: i did sudo dhclient eth0, then dhcclient eth0. it's saying no dhcpoffers recieved
[06:19] <Linuxpwns> Knio: Interesting.
[06:20] <soreau> pbear: What is your ethernet cable connected to?
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> Auriga: "changing the buttons" sounds a LOT like theming, wouldn't you say. Try giving details and we may be able to help
[06:20] <soreau> ! who | pbear
[06:20] <dombnexen> hi i have my streaming radio and i wont to play from linux in this streaming radio how i can do this?
[06:20] <soreau> dombnexen: What kind of streaming radio? Where is the stream coming from?
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> dombnexen: vlc and mplayer can connect to streams very easily
[06:20] <joeyr> oh well, I'm out for the night. thank you Linuxpwns for trying to help
[06:21] <dombnexen> listen2myradio
[06:21] <Auriga> ActionParsnip, It's not changing the buttons, it's when the buttons dissapear, & you are not able to move the window. Nor close it, or minimize, you have to replace them with compiz - -replace. Not the same at all.
[06:21] <dombnexen> i dont know how
[06:21] <Linuxpwns> joeyr: No problem. Sorry about that.
[06:21] <Linuxpwns> pbear: It means that no dhcp server was found on your network
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> Auriga: you should have said THAT first, rather than "You never have to replace your GUI?"  which is absolutely nothing to do with your issue
[06:22] <LorgonJortle> Empathy froze, sorry if I missed an answer. After installing GRUB2 again, I'm only getting a black screen on bootup. Is there something else I need to do?
[06:23] <Linuxpwns> pbear: Are you connected via wireless now?
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> Auriga: compiz isn't even a GUI, its a window manager
[06:23] <Auriga> ActionParsnip, That is exactly what I  said at first. I wasn't talking about theming, I said the compiz - - replace issue...
[06:23] <python__> LorgonJortle on the black screen can you press e
[06:23] <dombnexen> how i do it in vlc or mplayer?
[06:23] <python__> and go into the menu
[06:23] <pbear> soreau: what do you mean? i'm not sure, i'm working with ubuntu inside a virtual machine
[06:23] <LorgonJortle> python__: What will that get me?
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> Auriga: I suggest you use the startup items manager and add a new item to run:  compiz --replace     and it will be fine
[06:23] <soreau> pbear: Well you could have told everyone that from the start
[06:24]  * soreau goes to bed
[06:24] <python__> that should let you get to the menu.lst file line
[06:24] <Linuxpwns> Oh geez
[06:24] <mdkess> Is there any way to set the resolution on the virtual terminal (ctrl+alt+fN)?
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> Auriga: fyi, you CAN move windows without window decorators, if you hold ALT you can drag an application window from any place in the app
[06:24] <LorgonJortle> python__: Thanks. I'll give it a go.
[06:24] <Mrwootwoot> ActionParsnip, ahhh ok i got it, but 1 more thing... how do i include the location of this picture as it updates? http://static.die.net/earth/mercator/800.jpg
[06:24] <LorgonJortle> python__: I'm runnin' it. :D
[06:25] <pbear> Linuxpwns: no, i uninstalled the network manager and can't enable networking
[06:25] <Mrwootwoot> ActionParsnip, because i don't want to manually have to save it to my computer everytime it updates
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> Mrwootwoot: you will need to add a command to download it with wget
[06:25] <python__> in that case try pressing ctrl+alt+F2
[06:25] <python__> does it bring you to a command prompt
[06:25] <Linuxpwns> mdkess: xrandr -s 1024x768   or pick another resolution, does that work?
[06:25] <yasmi> Need some help building webkit
[06:26] <python__> LorgonJortle are you running a liveCD to try to fix the installation on the harddrive
[06:26] <dombnexen> someone can help me plz for the streaming radio
[06:27] <dombnexen> plz pm me
[06:27] <yasmi> I get this "You need the GLib dev tools in your path" when trying to configure webkit
[06:27] <python__> dombnexen what kind of radio you trying to setup
[06:28] <dombnexen> i have from listen2myradio
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> dombnexen: i gave a possible direction, you can now use research to utilize it
[06:28] <python__> yasmi you running ubuntu 10.10
[06:28] <yasmi> yes, python
[06:29] <dombnexen> i dont know how to streaming in linux its the first time
[06:29] <yasmi> python__, yeah I am ubuntu 10.10, have installed all glib packages
[06:30] <python__> go to terminal and type echo $PATH
[06:30] <python__> and paste out here
[06:30] <yasmi> /home/yasmi/bin:/home/yasmi/osg/bin:/home/yasmi/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[06:32] <python__> Do you know where the GLIB dev tools are located on system
[06:32] <python__> yasmi
[06:32] <naturalpsychic> test
[06:32] <rww> failed!
[06:33] <yasmi> not really--I am new to linux--still learning
[06:33] <yasmi> I can look for a certain file?
[06:33] <naturalpsychic> @rww successful :D
[06:36] <dombnexen> :(
[06:37] <critical_max> Random plug for 10.04 stability, my install has a metric loveton of extra apps and I just applied 5 months of updates at once flawlessly.
[06:37] <spacenavi_> how do I play dvd's
[06:37] <spacenavi_> in 10.10
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> !dvd | spacenavi_
[06:37] <ac7ss> spacenavi: I use VLC
[06:38] <SwordFish> spacenavi_ do you have gstreamer and restricted packages installed
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> ac7ss: you will still need to install the DVD codec, then ANY player will be able to play DVDs
[06:38] <s7r> hello
[06:38] <spacenavi_> i have vlc but it wouldent play
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> hi s7r
[06:39] <s7r> i am receiving the error desktop effects could not be enabled when I try to enable them from System -> Preferences -> appereance
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> spacenavi_: click the first link ubottu gave and follow instruction...
[06:39] <ac7ss> VLC has them in the install. You have to add from "non-free" for any of the other players.
[06:39] <SwordFish> s7r your video card driver installed
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> s7r: do you have 3D accelleration configured?
[06:39] <spacenavi_> so from synaptic i install what?
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> spacenavi_: read the link!
[06:39] <ac7ss> You have to enable non-free....
[06:39] <s7r> don't know
[06:39] <s7r> it's a normal install on a server
[06:39] <SwordFish> spacenavi_ gstreamer is one of them
[06:39] <s7r> ubuntu 10.10
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> spacenavi_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs |
[06:39] <spacenavi_> ok
[06:40] <SwordFish> s7r go to terminal and type lspci | grep VGA
[06:40] <s7r> i have reun apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade now SwordFish, ActionParsnip
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> s7r: what is the output of:   lspci | grep -i vga
[06:40] <LorgonJortle> After reinstalling GRUB2, I only get a black screen when booting. Is there a way around this?
[06:40] <lolcat> Whats up?
[06:40] <Linuxpwns> QUESTION: When I reboot my ubuntu machine I want it to show the splash screen loading while the OS boots up, instead it hangs on a blank screen for 15 seconds then briefly flashes the splash screen then logs on to desktop. How can I change it so the splash screen shows at all times?
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> spacenavi_: ubottu gave you the same link earlier
[06:40] <SwordFish> s7r tells your video card or should and then install a driver based on what it is
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> Linuxpwns: do you use an nvidia video chip?
[06:41] <SwordFish> LorgonJortle you at a comman prompt
[06:41] <Linuxpwns> ActionParnsnip: yes
[06:41] <s7r> it's 10.05.0 VGA comptabile controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G200e [Pilot] Server Engines (SEP1) (rev 02)
[06:41] <LorgonJortle> SwordFish: Am now.
[06:41] <SwordFish> k cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> Linuxpwns: please target me in future, the channel is very busy :)
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> Linuxpwns: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/
[06:41] <LorgonJortle> SwordFish: Doesn't exist.
[06:41] <Mrwootwoot> ActionParsnip, thanks man i got it
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> Mrwootwoot: fun stuff huh ;)
[06:42] <Linuxpwns> ActionParsnip:  recordfail
[06:42] <Linuxpwns> insmod part_msdos
[06:42] <Linuxpwns> insmod ext2
[06:42] <Linuxpwns> set root='(hd0,msdos1)'
[06:42] <Linuxpwns> search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set bb1fcd31-4549-4de3-8a49-de1bb6ecc153
[06:42] <FloodBot1> Linuxpwns: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:42] <Linuxpwns> linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-28-generic-pae root=UUID=bb1fcd31-4549-4de3-8a49-de1bb6ecc153 ro quiet splash
[06:42] <Mrwootwoot> no lol
[06:42] <LorgonJortle> SwordFish: I'm on a live CD.
[06:42] <SwordFish> LorgonJortle try typing startx
[06:42] <Smurfie> Hey guys.
[06:42] <s7r> ActionParsnip SwordFish 10.05.0 VGA comptabile controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G200e [Pilot] Server Engines (SEP1) (rev 02)
[06:42] <Smurfie> What's the terminal code to reset Skype?
[06:42] <Mrwootwoot> maybe more fun on day 3 tho ActionParsnip
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> s7r: websearching
[06:43] <SwordFish> smurfie just kill it
[06:43] <Linuxpwns> Doh im a noob
[06:43] <Smurfie> k
[06:43] <Smurfie> What's the kill code?
[06:43] <Smurfie> I can't remember how to do it.
[06:43] <Smurfie> sudo kill something.. I think.
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> s7r: can you run:   gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log     and make a pastebin of it please
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> Smurfie: it will be running as your user, so sudo won't be needd
[06:44] <SwordFish> smurfie use top
[06:44] <SwordFish> to get process id then kill
[06:44] <Smurfie> Its frozen.
[06:45] <Photocopy> soreau: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHASDGHASDHG
[06:45] <rww> o.O
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> Smurfie: doesn't matter, the frozen app is still runing as your user
[06:45] <Smurfie> I can't quit or anything.
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> Smurfie: killall skype     may do it
[06:45] <Photocopy> soreau: I GOT IT ! ! !
[06:45] <SwordFish> smurfie press CTRL+ALT+F2
[06:45] <SwordFish> Login
[06:45] <Photocopy> soreau: I GOT RID OF THE TITLEBAR TEXT IN METACITY/GTK-WINDOW-DECORATOR/WHATEVER
[06:45] <SwordFish> then type top
[06:46] <Photocopy> WOOHOO
[06:46] <s7r> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/YaiqXLRP
[06:46] <SwordFish> then type killall -9 "Procress ID"
[06:46] <rww> Photocopy: I think soreau will be able to read you just fine without capslock (:
[06:46] <Photocopy> soreau: my desktop looks so awesome noW
[06:46] <Photocopy> rww: haha im excited! I tried everything and he was telling me it'd be pretty much impossible
[06:46] <ac7ss> smurfie: or type 'ps -A|grep skype'
[06:46] <IdleOne> test
[06:47] <Photocopy> soreau, rww: http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/4305/desktopuc.png
[06:47] <ecinx3> I want to install a printer driver because my printer is slow to print in linux.. In the brother page they have two options  cup and lpr, what's the difference?
[06:47] <IdleOne> rww: does this test require more then one word?
[06:47] <IdleOne> rww:  it does
[06:48] <rww> IdleOne: fun. you got it too after the second message?
[06:48] <IdleOne> yes
[06:49] <shum> how do i fix broken package dependencies? I can't install or remove anything because apt-get complains that procps is installed and procps depends on initscripts which is not installed. But when i try to install initscripts apt-get says its already installed. :O
[06:49] <cynde_> k, I must've missed something after whoever said 'ctrl+alt+f2'
[06:50] <ac7ss> smurfie: or type 'ps -A|grep skype'
[06:50] <pbear> where is the network manager in the ubuntu 10.10 desktop iso? i'm looking for the network manager deb
[06:50] <ac7ss> smurfie: then 'kill -9 <Proc#>'
[06:50] <Prodego> hm
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> shum: sudo apt-get -f install      may do it
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> s7r: are you fully updated?
[06:51] <s7r> ActionParsnip: yes i am now
[06:51] <shum> ActionParsnip: nope. its says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[06:51] <s7r> i have updated 509 mb and rebooted
[06:51] <s7r> the same - desktop effects could not be enabled
[06:51] <Smurfie> The kill number is 9?
[06:52] <Linuxpwns> ActionParnsnip: can you see me?
[06:52] <ac7ss> smurfie: 9 is the absolute kill.
[06:52] <shum> Smurfie: 9 is the signal you're sending to the process. signal 9 means kill
[06:52] <Smurfie> Ah ok.
[06:52] <Smurfie> Good to know for later.
[06:53] <critical_max> smurfie: kill -9 is equivalent to when windows says "The program is not responding, do you want to force exit"
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> Smurfie: -9 is the biggest hammer and it WILL die
[06:53] <Smurfie> I had to reboot so its all good now.
[06:53] <Smurfie> But thank you for that.
[06:53] <ac7ss> smurfie: that works too.
[06:54] <critical_max> Anyone playing Ryzom on ubuntu? I've almost got the installer d/l
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> s7r: http://forum.tuxx-home.at/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=797    you may need an xorg.conf file for it, there are samples around like that one. Here is one I hashed up a while back for te same chip but it's using the driver is vesa so no 3D accelleration: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-mga/+question/141544
[06:54] <Smurfie> Yea, I screwed up somewhere along the line.
[06:54] <s7r> thanks ActionParsnip
[06:55] <ljsoftnet> is there a intel GMA 3150 driver for ubuntu?
[06:55] <s7r> ActionParsnip: so you say my card may not support acceleration 3d?
[06:55] <root_> Luvly
[06:56] <root_> exit
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> s7r: possibly, i've not used matrox cards under Linux
[06:57] <Starminn> I'm having issues with a very simple, 2-line shell script. It is supposed to launch a file, but it doesn't work (nothing happens)
[06:58] <shum> Starminn: what are the two lines?
[06:59] <Starminn> (It's so short I'm not going to pastebin it if that's alright since there's nobody on here right now..) So I've got: #! /bin/bash
[06:59] <Starminn> cd ~/quake
[06:59] <Starminn> ./darkplaces/darkplaces-linux-585-sdl
[07:00] <Starminn> That's the whole thing, and it works in Terminal, but I want to just click a shell script, not remember file paths. ;)
[07:00] <Jordan_U> Starminn: What happens when you execute the script in the terminal?
[07:01] <i4ba1_> i have a command to show the hdd serial number
[07:01] <Starminn> Jordan_U: You mean as in "/path/to/my/script"?
[07:01] <memorygap0> hello. I have a win xp install  as main os and linux guest os using virtual box. how can i copy file on xp to my linux os
[07:01] <Jordan_U> Starminn: Yes.
[07:01] <i4ba1_> sudo hdparm -i /dev/sda | grep -i serial
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: does ./darkplaces/darkplaces-linux-585-sdl   work in a terminal if you type it?
[07:02] <Starminn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/583671/
[07:02] <Frenk> Hey, I have a LAN connection and a free WiFi card. I want to use it as an access point for other devices. (Running Ubuntu 10.10)
[07:02] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: ~/quake has to be my working directory
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: did you put your script in /usr/bin   ? (give it a weird name)
[07:03] <Auriga> memorygap0, Go take a look at installing Guest Additions.
[07:04] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: IT does launch the program (an emulator), but it can't find the game to emulate unless ~/quake is my Working Directory. ;) As far as putting the shell script in /usr/bin, I shall try that now.
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> memorygap0:  you can define folders which share to the guest in the vbox config
[07:04] <i4ba1_> the result is Model=SAMSUNG HD161G, FwRev=1AC01118, SerialNo=S14Dj585959
[07:04] <i4ba1_> and i just want get the number in serial no
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: you should then be able to run it from any place. If the script is not in one of the folders in $PATH you will need to  type the absolute path to the script
[07:05] <i4ba1_> how can i do that?
[07:05] <thauriswulfa> QUESTION: I am unable to use other than default gsm n/w operator "idea" to connect to internet on huawei datacard?
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> i4ba1_: maybe:    sudo dmidecode | less     will show it, use cursors / pgup / pgdn to navigate and Q to exit
[07:07] <ac7ss> i4bal: you can also use a pipe through sed.
[07:07] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: $PATH? (Launching the file I just moved to /usr/bin te same thing happens (i.e. nothing)
[07:08] <Jordan_U> i4ba1_: Earlier you said you wanted the serial number "Of the computer", now you're asking about the serial number of the hard drive. What is your end goal?
[07:08] <thauriswulfa>  QUESTION: I am unable to use other than default gsm n/w operator "idea" to connect to internet on huawei datacard?
[07:08] <Jordan_U> Starminn: You have DOS line endings in the file.
[07:08] <pbear> does anyone know which deb the network manager is in in ubuntu-10.10-desktop-amd64.iso?
[07:09] <Jordan_U> Starminn: dos2unix /path/to/script
[07:09] <i4ba1_> my end goal is create combination serial number with hdd serial number
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: $PATH is a list of folders the interpreter looks for binarys etc, you don't type: /usr/bin/sudo  /usr/bin/apt-get install foo      do you, you just type: sudo apt-get install foo    the paths are not needed as the binaries used are in $PATH
[07:09] <i4ba1_> i create the application
[07:09] <i4ba1_> and the application need to execute the shell command to get the hdd serial number
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> pbear: network-manager-gnome   is my guess
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: did you mark the script as executable using chmod?
[07:10] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: So whenever you run a program it stores the program "name" in /usr/bin so you can just type the Program name instead of using the absolute path.
[07:10] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: Yep. I chmod +x  it
[07:10] <pbear> ActionParsnip: yea that's what i'm try to find but i can't find it, is it included in some other deb with a different name?
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: most times, yes. You can see all the folders with:  echo $PATH
[07:10] <Ub3r-N00b> could anyone recommend me encoding software for doc files ?
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> pbear: that will be the deb name
[07:11] <Mrwootwoot> anyone know how to get ubuntu to play a few seconds of the eye of the tiger as it boots up
[07:11] <thauriswulfa>  QUESTION: I am unable to use other than default gsm n/w operator "idea" to connect to internet on huawei datacard , SETTINGS are ok?
[07:11] <ac7ss> i4bal_: run the line through a pipe: '|sed s/.*number=//
[07:11] <lolcat> Mrwootwoot: Why not all of it?
[07:11] <Mrwootwoot> lolcat, long song lol
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> pbear: http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/network-manager-gnome
[07:12] <ac7ss> i4bal_: that will remove the contents of the line before the serial number.
[07:12] <lolcat> Mrwootwoot: Still awesome! You could just cut it and set as login sound?
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: you can see which exact binary is used if you use the command: which
[07:12] <i4ba1_> ok ac7ss i try
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: e.g.     which nano
[07:12] <Mrwootwoot> lolcat, i mean i dunno how to do it, but yeah i'm trying to find something on it
[07:12] <lolcat> Mrwootwoot: The panel ddoes it
[07:13] <Mrwootwoot> lolcat, panel?
[07:13] <ac7ss> i4bal_: make that '|sed s/.*SerialNo =//
[07:13] <i4ba1_> ac7ss can you show me the full syntax?
[07:13] <lolcat> Mrwootwoot: Can't remember, but I saw the sentece somewhere
[07:13] <root_> hello everyone, somebody already tried ubuntu 11.04 on virtualbox and got it running? Mine won't install
[07:14] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: Awesome, thanks for the info. But anyway, so back to the original question. It is marked as executable, , the commands inside of it work wihout a doubt, but everytime I go to run it, the Terminal tells me it doesn't exist. (as opposed to the GUI which just... nothing happens whatsoever.)
[07:14] <Jordan_U> Starminn: Did you see my comment?
[07:14] <ac7ss> i4bal_: sudo hdparm -i /dev/sda | grep -i serial|sed s/.*SerialNo=//
[07:15] <Starminn> root_: I got it installed. I didn't have that sidebar though. I just went to Settings->Storage, and set whatever was Empty to my .iso on my HDD and installed. 11.04 help is in #ubuntu+1, though.
[07:16] <i4ba1_> ok thank you ac7ss
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: ok, use tab to complete the filename. Use the absolute reference (from /), does it help
[07:16] <i4ba1_> it's working
[07:16] <Starminn> Jordan_U: I did, but I didn't quite understand what you were saying. (I was hopign Action would recap it in plainer speak as he tends to do)
[07:16] <root_> starmin: i'll check that channel, tnx anyway
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> root_: also IRCing as root is a really BAD idea
[07:16] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/583678/
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: you don't need the .sh file extension in linux ;)
[07:17] <cenobite> Whenever load on my system is too high, I can't ssh in. It comes up with the password prompt, but as soon as I enter it the system just hangs. Any ideas what I can do? Is there some way I can prioritize ssh?
[07:17] <root_> indeed, forgot to logoff, did upgrade trough phone, i will logoff root and come back...
[07:17] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: So I've been told. But.. I feel like.. I'm leaving the file so... naked...
[07:18] <ac7ss> i4bal_: did it work?
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: if you run:   gksudo gedit /usr/bin/quakelaunch.sh        and delete the carridge returns on the end of each line, then add a new CR (carridge return), does it help. BTW, a LOT of the commands you are running are simply scripts too, they have no file extesions too
[07:19] <RealEyes> how important is it -not- to show your local IP?
[07:19] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: Just tried without the extensionto no avail.
[07:19] <i4ba1_> yes it work ac7ss
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: it's the same, file extensions don't mean much in linux
[07:19] <i4ba1_> thank you very much ac7ss
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> RealEyes: local IP is worthless, it's the wan IP you should worry about if at all
[07:20] <RealEyes> alright thanks
[07:20] <Jordan_U> Starminn: Unix and Windows handle line endings differentely. You appear to have written your script with a Windows text editor. Running "dos2unix /path/to/script" will change the line endings to the Unix style.
[07:20] <ac7ss> i4bal_: sed is very worth learning.
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> RealEyes: there are billions of 192.168.0.0/24 networks
[07:20] <navwey> join http://easyweed.tk/
[07:20] <navwey> join join http://easyweed.tk/
[07:20] <rww> navwey: Don't advertise in here.
[07:20] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: Still no luck.
[07:21] <i4ba1_> yes that's worth
[07:21] <i4ba1_> i never try that command before
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: try:  sudo apt-get install dos2unix; sudo dos2unix /usr/bin/quakelaunch.sh
[07:21] <Starminn> Jordan_U: Wow. I did not know that. Hmph... How do they differ? (Yes, I  know it's not great, but my favorite editor for code happens to be Notepad++ so I WINE it... good to know though..)
[07:21] <i4ba1_> because you ac7ss tell me about sed
[07:22] <i4ba1_> now i know about sed
[07:22] <Jordan_U> Starminn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newline
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: gedit is pretty similar and will make proper text files as well as use a tonne less resources to run
[07:22] <Mrwootwoot> anyone know how to change the color of the top and bottom bars... like blue fading to black?
[07:22] <i4ba1_> how long you use ubuntu ac7ss?
[07:22] <ac7ss> i4bal_: that's the trouble, finding out what the tool is to use. There are so many.
[07:23] <ac7ss> i4bal_: about 5 years straight now.
[07:23] <i4ba1_> wow great
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> Mrwootwoot: right click -> preferences then colour there possibly?
[07:24] <ac7ss> i4bal_: There is such a good community for support. So many ways to get to your end.
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> Mrwootwoot: I'm on natty now and haven't changed much like that due to laziness
[07:24]  * ac7ss has 50lbs of books on linux, not enough. :)
[07:24] <Starminn> Jordan_U ActionParsnip: Super duper awesome-ness. It works -- the dos2unix program is what did it (nice call, Jordan ;) ). It works in both /usr/bin/quakelaunch *and* /home/robert/quake/quakelaunch so awesome.
[07:25] <Mrwootwoot> ActionParsnip,  lol yeah i tried that but it only let;s me do solid colors
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: you can now run:   alacarte   and make a launcher to run the script
[07:25] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: I do mostly PHP, and Gedit just doesn't have the same robustness of power to it, even afte rI played around with a few plugins. :(
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: well you will need to use dos2unix for EVERY file you make
[07:26] <Jordan_U> Starminn: You might like SciTE as a text editor.
[07:26] <ac7ss> None better than vi (or vim) Jordan_U
[07:27]  * ac7ss discovered X over SSH this week. fun at work. 
[07:28] <s7r> any ftp server with GUI on ubuntu 10.10 ?
[07:28] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: Nah. I'll make shell scripts in Gedit. I actually quite like Gedit for quick things, but it just doesn't do the job for me when you're staring had hundreds of lines of crap for extended periods of time... (I tried SciTE, Jordan_U, and while I do know that Notepad++ uses the same base as it, Notepad++ has built many features on top of it such as showing you exactly where things end and begin (I know Gedit does this too but
[07:28] <AnAnt> Hello, is there a tool like grep, that would search a binary file for a certain hex pattern ? and give out the address of that pattern ?
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> s7r: why does it need a GUI?
[07:29] <s7r> for easy management
[07:29] <s7r> set home folders for clients. permissions etc
[07:29] <Starminn> ActionParsnip Jordan_U: Thanks for the heads-up though, guys. I'll just have to bear in mind that shell scripts (or, well, anything for strictly Linux) I just need ot do in Gedit. *shrug* Fair enough. Thanks again, to both of you. :) You're both awesome.
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> s7r: if you install openssh-server you will get a secure ftp server and it will obey the unix permissions in your filesystem
[07:30] <quiescens> ftp servers aren't often recommended unless you have a really good reason o.o
[07:30] <Jordan_U> Starminn: You're welcome.
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> !info gproftpd
[07:30] <s7r> ActionParsnip: can i configure multiple clients on it ?
[07:30] <s7r> and set user available space?
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> s7r: sure, just make a new user like the one you are using this very second
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> s7r: or you can use webminto manage stuff using a web interface
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> !info pureadmin
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> there's also pureadmin which is a GUI to pureftpd
[07:32] <s7r> ActionParsnip: how i install it ?
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> ftp is godawful
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> s7r: install what? I named about 6 different softwares........
[07:32] <s7r> webminto
[07:32] <ac7ss> Oh, come on, FTP does what it was designed to do.
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> s7r: webmin is in software centre, like most other softwares
[07:32] <Starminn> Jordan_U: So I understand the difference between LF and CR, but what are/were the advantages of Linux using LF and Windows and friends using both?
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> ac7ss: sure but its very insecure and uses 2 ports (wasteful)
[07:33] <ac7ss> Starminn: CR/LF is a holdover from the teletype days.
[07:33] <cenobite> Whenever load on my system is too high, I can't ssh in. It comes up with the password prompt, but as soon as I enter it the system just hangs. Any ideas what I can do? Is there some way I can prioritize ssh?
[07:33] <Starminn> !webmin > s7r
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: they fixed the webmin issue now ;)
[07:34] <cenobite> as soon as I ssh in it's quite responsive, so I'm guessing there's a setting somewhere to limit ssh sessions under a specific load
[07:34] <s7r> thanks
[07:34] <s7r> i saw
[07:34] <Starminn> ac7ss: Well, what were the advantages back then, and are there currently any to this day of one over the other?
[07:34] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: Ah, well then.
[07:34] <Starminn> s7r: I retract my bot call to you.
[07:34] <ac7ss> No, now we have SSH and it can tunnel all sorts of stuff. (vpn, X, ftp)
[07:35] <Athenon> my ssh tunnels pretty much anything i like :)
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> ac7ss: its great to ssh from work to home, then launch irssi and chat
[07:35] <ac7ss> Does anyone still use archie?
[07:35] <Athenon> i usually use it to tunnel email, irc, and IM
[07:35] <ac7ss> ActionParsnip: That is what I am doing now.
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> ac7ss: i'll be doing the sameon my 12 hour shift tonight too :)
[07:36] <Jordan_U> Starminn: As C and Unix were developed together working with LF only is slightly easier in C (there is no difference between opening a binary or text file). There is no inherent advantage though.
[07:37]  * ac7ss will ssh and run pidgon 
[07:37] <Starminn> Jordan_U: What do the majority of languages use? (Just languages -- not counting how most people use Windows.)
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> ac7ss: its also fun to run web browsers over X and play the sound through the serving sound device (also funny at 4am blaring out some Meshuggah to bother the neighbours ;))
[07:39] <Jordan_U> Starminn: Most languages follow the convention of the C standard libraries, strings are internally represented with only a single character for newline and on writing to a file the libraries convert to the OS's native format.
[07:39] <Athenon> ActionParsnip:  i annoy my friends when theyre over from the bathroom that way using my phone :)
[07:40] <ac7ss> ActionParsnip: I use mpg123 to play songs to my wife when she is on the computer.
[07:40] <Jordan_U> Starminn: On Unix no conversion is needed, on Windows conversion is needed, which is why there is a difference between opening a file as a binary file or as a text file in Windows but not in Unix.
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> ac7ss: or you can use espeak and tell her nice things to get brownie points
[07:41] <ac7ss> ActionParsnip: I will have to look into espeak...
[07:41] <ac7ss> cool and it's installed!
[07:41] <Starminn> Jordan_U: So (regarding the last bit about converting to the OS's native format) if I ran (just an example) Gedit in windows natively, and wrote something in C, it would then be saved in Windows format, and if I wrote the same in Linux, it would be saved for Linux.
[07:42] <ac7ss> ActionParsnip: cat "ShakespeareSonnets.txt" |espeak
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> ac7ss: hehe nice
[07:43] <ac7ss> don't forget the & on the end.
[07:45] <Jordan_U> Starminn: Ahh, I misunderstood what you meant. I thought you were talking about handling the writing of programs that deal with text files (for instance writing your own text editor in C). Almost all programming languages accept both line endings when compiling / interpreting source code. In fact Bash does as well, the only problem is with the '#! /bin/bash\n' which is not handled by bash but rather the kernel (I think) when looking for bash to use as an in
[07:47] <quuze> if i newly installed ubuntu as eg. bill, then is bill the root?
[07:47] <Starminn> quuze: There isn't really a "root." bill is the "Admin" account. To run something as root use "Sudo"
[07:47] <mancio> #osd
[07:48] <Starminn> Well, there is a root but you should never need it
[07:49]  * ac7ss "sudo su root" often.
[07:49] <ac7ss> not recommended.
[07:49] <Starminn> Jordan_U: Ah. So if I wrote the rest of the command (everything *but* the call to the interpreter) in Windows/WINE and copy/pasted it ti wouldn't matter, but if I did that with #! /bin/bash it would screw it  up
[07:49] <lolcat> ac7ss: sudo su -
[07:50] <Jordan_U> Starminn: Correct.
[07:50] <ac7ss> I type fast enough to type root.
[07:51] <Starminn> Jordan_U: Aha. Now, tell me more about how Linux doesn't (usually) require file extensions. I assume for pictures and such it does ( some .jpgs and .pngs and such), but what *doesn't* it need them for? (Sorry if I'm a bother. I had wondered why some files were only a name and now I can get an answer! ;) )
[07:52] <ac7ss> Starminn: many files have identifying labels in their 'headers' and linux will find the correct program.
[07:53] <[deXter]> Starminn: Most files don't need an extension, usually the header or attributes tell what sort of file it is
[07:53] <Starminn> ac7ss: What makes the headers?
[07:54] <Jordan_U> Starminn: They are part of the file format for pretty much every type of file.
[07:54] <ac7ss> Starminn: part of the file standard. look an a dump and you will see it at the beginning of the file. (gif87 is the first to come to mind.)
[07:58] <Starminn> ac7ss Jordan_U: aha.
[07:58] <Jak3st3r>  know this is ubuntu..... but can anyone spare a moment a tell me how to register on an IRC Server?
[07:58] <jamiewan> anyone using "motion" on their webcam, i can't access web feed from it remotely only on the camera machine thru browser
[07:58] <Starminn> So, which ones do I need extensions for other than multimedia?
[07:59] <Starminn> !register | Jak3st3r
[07:59] <zairo> hi. is it possible to install blackberry simulator on headless ubuntu linux?
[07:59] <[deXter]> Starminn: generally, you don't need extensions.
[08:00] <Starminn> [deXter]: So basically, try it, and if it doesn't work, *then* add an extension.
[08:00] <ac7ss> Extensions are for the user to identify the file,
[08:00] <Starminn> How long has it been this way (on Linux)? (I assume Windows requires them).
[08:00] <[deXter]> Starminn: yep but it doesn't harm to add the extension, especially if you're sharing the files with other OSes / devices / systems
[08:00] <[deXter]> Starminn: It's been like this since the beginning
[08:00] <[deXter]> Starminn: In the rare event that you find a file that isn't recognised, use the "file" command to see if it can identify the mime-type
[08:00] <ac7ss> Yes, Win does require them.
[08:02] <Starminn> Awesome. Thank you very much, everyone.
[08:02] <ac7ss> The big difference will be in different plaintext documents.
[08:02] <h3r0> hi friends...
[08:02] <ac7ss> IE a KML flie vs a XPF. (linux sees both as text files.)
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: windows is STILL holding onto it's DOS days of 8.3 filenames and still uses the extension to identify the filetype, Linux doesn't and analyses the data. You can give a script the file extension .jp and it will STILL be a script. Windows would see it as an image (which it isn't), try and open i with a graphical app and fail
[08:03] <eltigre> hey, I have a problem with two computers connected via ethernet... I'd like to access the webserver on a port 8000 on one computer from the other one
[08:03] <eltigre> how can I do that?
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> eltigre: http://hostname:8000
[08:04] <h3r0_> i've got some question that is st**id.. i want to know the hostname in my network company
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> eltigre: obviously change hostname to the actual hostname
[08:04] <eltigre> ah sorry forgot to say that won't work
[08:04] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: So Linux actually give a crap about what extension you give it. It only cares about content.
[08:04] <h3r0_> but it did not return any respons...
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> eltigre: or try:   http://ip.address.of.server:8000
[08:04] <almoxarife> eltigre: use the IP of the machine
[08:04] <Starminn> actually doesn't give a crap*
[08:05] <quiescens> that's not a very fair assessment
[08:05] <h3r0_> im using ubuntu jaunty
[08:05] <eltigre> as I said it doesn't work
[08:05] <h3r0_> some of the windows computer did respon with their hostname
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: exactly, people whom script in a lot of languages can use it to denote the language used but it will still work the same. You can even use names like:   quake.thisisabashscript   etc, very flexible
[08:05] <almoxarife> Starminn: I have found that it does in some instances, mainly text file extentions
[08:05] <quiescens> there are benefits to both options
[08:05] <h3r0_> but some computer like redhat linux didnt return their hostname
[08:05] <eltigre> the server is running on the same port. On the same computer I can access the site
[08:06] <Jordan_U> h3r0_: Jaunty is no longer supported.
[08:06] <h3r0_> what should i do friends?
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> h3r0_: jaunty is no longer supported
[08:06] <Jordan_U> !eol | h3r0_
[08:06] <h3r0_> oh too bad :(
[08:06] <histo> !upgrade | h3r0_
[08:06] <ljsoftnet> is there a intel GMA 3150 driver for ubuntu?
[08:06] <h3r0_> i just want to ask about the network in linux
[08:06] <quiescens> purely relying on content type magic means having to open every file and having a look at it to try to work out which files are of the type you want
[08:06] <h3r0_> how can i get a hostname from linux server that they didnt implement samba?
[08:06] <Ben64> ljsoftnet: should just be the open source intel driver that is built in
[08:07] <h3r0_> or netbios?
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> h3r0_: you can search in your router's dhcp clients table
[08:07] <ljsoftnet> Ben64 oh its already in ubuntu 10.04?
[08:07] <eltigre> how can I open the 8000 for other computer to reach it?
[08:08] <Ben64> ljsoftnet: it should have been in for years
[08:08] <h3r0_> oh means i need to nslookup or dig?
[08:08] <h3r0_> but our company use static ip :(
[08:08] <ljsoftnet> Ben64 how do i know if it is installed?
[08:09] <ac7ss> eltigre: do you have apache running?
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> eltigre: if it's 2 machines on the same lan and you havn't configured your firewall then it's already open
[08:09] <Ben64> ljsoftnet: the module should be included with all installs
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> ljsoftnet: http://www.ivankristianto.com/os/ubuntu/install-intel-latest-driver-to-your-ubuntu-10-04/1278/
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> ljsoftnet: its already included, you may just need an xorg.conf file to get it going
[08:09] <Ben64> i remember using intel gma on edgy eft
[08:10]  * ActionParsnip only  uses nvidia vga
[08:10] <Ben64> my laptop doesn't have a choice :P
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> but  you had choice in the laptop.....
[08:11] <Ben64> intel driver has some nice tools though, like intel_gpu_top
[08:11] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: not really... got mine for $300.
[08:12] <sl33k_> how to find if my ubuntu is 64/32 bits?
[08:12] <Ben64> sl33k_: uname -a
[08:12] <sl33k_> thanks
[08:13] <sl33k_> Ben64: it says i686
[08:13] <Ben64> actually, uname -m just prints what you want
[08:13] <osxfr33k> Does the nvidia nouveau support Graphics acceleration?  I am assuming not because the compiz affects are not working?
[08:13] <Ben64> sl33k_: i686 should be 32 bit
[08:14] <osxfr33k> This is for Ubuntu 10.10 desktop edition
[08:14] <Ben64> osxfr33k: not sure if it supports accel, but the proprietary driver works great
[08:14] <sl33k_> Ben64, are you sure
[08:14] <rypervenche> How can I rename a bunch of files from .gif to .jpg?
[08:14] <Ben64> x86_64 would be 64
[08:14] <sl33k_> oh sorry
[08:15] <Ben64> rypervenche: rename or convert
[08:15] <osxfr33k> I am at a loss as to why when I install the nvidia 96  prop. driver I get a black screen.  I have to edit the xorg.conf file and  change "nvidia" to "nv" to get my screen back
[08:15] <Blou_Aap> where can I find menu.lst now ?
[08:15] <SwedeMike> !grub2 | Blou_Aap
[08:15] <Blou_Aap> i havent edited that file since 9.04
[08:15] <osxfr33k> I have a Dell C840 with Geofroce4Go 440 graphics card with 64MB
[08:16] <Ben64> osxfr33k: how do you install it, which gpu do you have, what version of ubuntu
[08:16] <Blou_Aap> :O thats cool
[08:16] <Starminn> If I pop open a Terminal, and run a file or programs or something, it has to stay open till I either force quit the application along with the Terminal, or I close the app. How do I open it without requiring Terminal the whole time too? For example, << gksudo nautilus >>
[08:16] <osxfr33k> 10.10 desktop I install it from system admin driver
[08:16] <osxfr33k> I have all the updated so GDM must be the latest
[08:16] <Ben64> Starminn: go to the terminal, hit CTRL+Z, then type "bg", then you can exit the terminal
[08:17] <ac7ss> rpyervenche: rename "s/.*\.jpg/.gif/" *.jpg
[08:17] <osxfr33k> updated software I meant
[08:17] <ohzie> Hey what package controls the boot splash?
[08:17] <Ben64> Starminn: or when you run a program, run it with & at the end
[08:17] <osxfr33k> gpu I just mentioned it above
[08:17] <seto> Blou_Aap: I think that you are looking for /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?
[08:17] <Blou_Aap> ye
[08:17] <seto> (seems to replace menu.lst
[08:17] <Mrokii> Hello. Does anybody know a database where I can see which printers/scanners work with Ubuntu?
[08:17] <Blou_Aap> got it thanks
[08:18] <Blou_Aap> wow big difference though
[08:18] <osxfr33k>  Geofroce4Go 440 graphics card with 64MB
[08:18] <osxfr33k> NV17
[08:18] <osxfr33k> Is that Prop driver basically the same when Nvidia supplies from there site?
[08:18] <osxfr33k> that does not work either
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> rpyervenche: convert: mogrify -format jpg *.gif
[08:19] <Starminn> ben64: Aha, thank you. Both of those did it (although "bg" was unecessary)
[08:19] <eltigre> I am still having trouble to access a webserver over a local network
[08:19] <Ben64> Starminn: err... "bg 1"
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> osxfr33k:  I believe the nvidia 96 driver is in the proposed repo
[08:20] <Ben64> Starminn: otherwise the program woiuld probably be frozen
[08:20] <eltigre> I now how to address it, the other computer just refuses the connection
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> eltigre: can you ping the hostname, or the IP?
[08:20] <eltigre> yes, connection is fine
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> eltigre: is the service running and on the right port?
[08:20] <eltigre> yes
[08:21] <Starminn> Ben64: No, no, no, I mean I run let's say << gksudo nautilus >>. I go to the Terminal, hit CTRL+Z, and it runs fine
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> eltigre: ok can you open the page on the local system?
[08:21] <eltigre> yes
[08:21] <Ben64> Starminn: well thats cause nautilus is always running :)
[08:21] <osxfr33k> But the release notes sais there is an issue with that Prop driver in Ubuntu 10.10 meerkat and not because of the distro release but because of xorg 1.9
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> eltigre: is there an access restriction in the config to only allow local access by default?
[08:21] <Starminn> Ben64: Ah. Good point.
[08:21] <Firefishe> What is the channel for e17?
[08:21] <eltigre> ActionParsnip, now, it's a django development server
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> Firefishe: #enlightenment maybe
[08:22] <eltigre> and there are usually no restrictions. Other projects don't work either
[08:22] <Firefishe> ActionParsnip: thanks (I'm probalby going to have to 'doh' my brain for even asking this). ;)
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> eltigre: and is there a local firewall running with someconfig (a firewall lis installed by default, its just unconfigured and allows everything)
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> Firefishe: sorry its #e
[08:23] <eltigre> that might be, and that's why I am asking how to find out
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> eltigre: well, did you add any rules?
[08:23] <eltigre> I don't remember setting up a firewall
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> eltigre: then it's not that
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> eltigre: ok when you try and connect do you get any http error codes?
[08:24] <eltigre> no, there is just the refused connection
[08:24] <ac7ss> eltigre: is anything showing in the apache logs when you try to connect?
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> eltigre: i think there may be some access rules in the service
[08:25] <eltigre> there are no apache logs and no, the connection is not established at all
[08:25] <eltigre> it looks like a firewall
[08:25] <timlk> im using ubuntu 10.10...when i lock the screen, my wallpaper is not shown..is there a way to show the wallpaper on the lock screen as well ?
[08:26] <Bonding> any user could help me with bonding?
[08:26] <eltigre> ActionParsnip, how can I check if I have some firewall enabled?
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> eltigre: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo     shows what a none configured firewall will show
[08:28] <gnewb> eltigre: Are you using a third party or GUI package for firewall, nevermind, Thank you ActionParsnip.
[08:28] <eltigre> no iptable entries
[08:29] <van7hu> hey,I want to develop a app for playing music? what do I need to know?
[08:29] <ac7ss> van7hu: mpg123
[08:29] <ac7ss> :)
[08:29] <eltigre> or well there are entries, but just routing, nothing about ports and basically acceptin everything
[08:29] <van7hu> yeah,thanks
[08:30] <gnewb> eltigre: Have you read the MAN on UFW?
[08:30] <ac7ss> van7hu: you want a playlist, gui or what.
[08:30] <eltigre> no
[08:30] <shipship> hi! is it possible to download the hole repo like it is possible in debian by downloading all 8 dvds?
[08:30] <van7hu> ac7ss:just CLI
[08:30] <eltigre> but ufw won't help me if there are no concflicting iptable rules?
[08:30] <sagaci> shipship, mirror a mirror
[08:30] <AnthraxSSH>  Good morning!
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> shipship: you can make your own apt server and it will pull down all the debs
[08:31] <ac7ss> van7hu: easily scripted with existing commands. (mpg123 is my favorite.)
[08:31] <gnewb> eltigre: Ubuntu is shipped or written with UFW , you can enable/disable by CLI.
[08:32] <van7hu> ac7ss: develop an app for getting experience
[08:32] <eltigre> gnewb,  ufw is disabled
[08:33] <ac7ss> van7hu: I can think of an easy way to write a sh app that will read a file, take the first entry, play it and strip that line. just keep adding lines to the file to continue the playlist.
[08:33] <gnewb> eltigre: Then you have no firewall active.
[08:33] <DJones> shipship: http://www.howtoforge.com/local_debian_ubuntu_mirror
[08:33] <van7hu> ac7ss: good advice
[08:34] <gnewb> eltigre: Actually you do, iptables, UFW is a front end for iptables.
[08:34] <shipship> thanks
[08:35] <eltigre> ok... so why is the connection refused?
[08:35] <gnewb> eltigre: Do you have the proper access scripts in place?
[08:36] <ayaka> I want to how to remote contro; m$,I remove the program and I forget it name
[08:36] <eltigre> what is a proper access script?
[08:36] <eltigre> I might have  configured something in the last five years on that machine, that I am not aware that it is troubling me now....
[08:36] <ac7ss> ayaka: what do you mean by remote control? (microsoft?)
[08:36] <gnewb> eltigre: Looking it up now,
[08:36] <ayaka> ac7ss, yes
[08:37] <eltigre> and as I am not an extremely competent sysadmin, I am looking here for help ;-)
[08:37] <ac7ss> ayaka: you mean like telnet? or remote display?
[08:38] <gnewb> eltigre: This may be what you need:> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[08:38] <eltigre> ufw is disabled
[08:38] <czardoz> ayaka, are you talking about VNC?
[08:38] <ayaka> ac7ss, not telent,remote display
[08:38] <eltigre> can a disabled ufw cause any trouble?
[08:38] <gior> elisa
[08:38] <ac7ss> ayaka: rdesktop maybe?
[08:39] <gnewb> eltigre: iptables are still active, UFW is a front end for iptables.
[08:40] <ayaka> ac7ss, no,the ubuntu default install one
[08:41] <ac7ss> ayaka: rdesktop was the one installed with my distro.
[08:44] <ayaka> ac7ss, I want to the one with GUI
[08:45] <eltigre> gnewb,  I am now sure that there is no iptables or ufw configuration in place that would block the access
[08:45] <Neroon> hi everyone
[08:46] <gnewb> eltigre: Then we are moving forward. re-start the kernel to see if it reverts?
[08:46] <tyreza> hello
[08:47] <Neroon> Anyone got a clue about analogue joysticks on the gameport?
[08:47] <eltigre> gnewb,  what do you mean by restarting the kernel?
[08:47] <tyreza> hello there
[08:48] <eltigre> I already rebooted a gazillion times since I have this problem
[08:48] <tyreza> i can't able to chmod
[08:48] <gnewb> eltigre: Like a reboot, or log out and in.
[08:48] <tyreza> what i have to do ?
[08:49] <ruan> is it ok to have sun java and openjdk installed?
[08:49] <ruan> both
[08:50] <eltigre> gnewb, yes I am sure of that
[08:50] <Neroon> ruan: afaik it doesn't hurt
[08:50] <howler> I am trying to compile the source code of shotwell 0.8.1  , after doing the ./configure i am unable to do the make function . But i am getting an error as Package gexiv2 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[08:50] <howler> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gexiv2.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gexiv2' found make: *** [src/.stamp] Error 1 ! I i have installed the required package what to do now ?
[08:50] <eltigre> btw I can access apache on the same computer
[08:50] <eltigre> but that's another port
[08:51] <ruan> since the icedtea plugin only works with openjdk and i prefer sun java
[08:51] <gnewb> eltigre: Here is an Ubuntu iptables-HowTo:> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo?action=show&redirect=Iptables
[08:51] <eltigre> ok
[08:51] <Neroon> ruan: i had both running on my second pc here. worked just fine
[08:52] <ac7ss> ayaka: you want a gui front end...
[08:52] <ayaka> ac7ss, yes
[08:52] <Softdroid> I have problem with skype and Ubuntu. I can hear the one i'm communicating with but the other part does not hear me
[08:52] <eltigre> but normally if all kinds of connections,routing and port 80 works, and there is no disallowing iptable rule, the access should not be blocked?
[08:52] <Neroon> so noone could offer some help with a joystick problem?
[08:53] <gnewb> eltigre: On your end, correct, on the other end is where the solution may need to be implemented.
[08:53] <tyreza> hello there
[08:53] <tyreza> anyone there ?
[08:53] <tyreza> i can't able to chmod
[08:54] <ac7ss> ayaka: tsclient
[08:54] <eltigre> gnewb, I meant I can access port 80 the same way I would like to access 8000
[08:54] <Neroon> tyreza: what do you want to chmod and what did you do?
[08:55] <gnewb> eltigre: Ahh. that is a Networking thing, I believe you have access, or should have, I will have to look that one up,,,,
[08:56] <eltigre> sorry I found the solution I think
[08:56] <ayaka> ac7ss, yes that one,thank you
[08:56] <ac7ss> ayaka: google to the rescue.
[08:58] <eltigre> the service I was using implicitly only connects to 127.0.0.1 by default, won't complain about it and I just had the assumption it would listen on all interfaces
[08:58] <ayaka> ac7ss, I'm so sorry,I don't speak english,can tell me the search key of this question
[08:58] <ac7ss> ayaka: I searched for "rdesktop gui" (Not a problem.)
[08:59] <Softdroid> How can I make alsa the default driver without removing the pulse driver?
[08:59] <ayaka> ac7ss, oh,I know
[08:59] <tyreza> i want to chmod a web directory when i try to do chmod -R 777 /www Neroon
[08:59] <tyreza> it say not permitted
[09:00] <ac7ss> tyreza: who is the owner of the directory?
[09:00] <ayaka> ac7ss, thank you once again
[09:00] <smof> hi
[09:00] <smof> There is a smylink named /tmp/a.txt which points the file /tmp/b.txt  I want to copy a.txt to another place but I don't want to copy the symlink, instead of this, copied file must be original (b.txt). can anyone help?
[09:00] <Softdroid> tyreza: try sudo chmod -R 777 /www Neroon
[09:00] <ac7ss> tyreza: you may have to sudo that
[09:00] <Mrokii> hello Does VueScan work with Ubuntu?
[09:01] <ac7ss> Mrokii: yes there is a linux distrobution.
[09:01] <ac7ss> Mrokii: No, I haven't used it.
[09:01] <ruan> what is vuescan?
[09:02] <ruan> or rather, its purpose
[09:02] <Mrokii> I saw the generic Linux-distribution but I am not sure if it works with Ubuntu (if there are any problems unsing that version).
[09:02] <Neroon> tyreza: as softdroid already said, you might need to type: sudo chmod -R 777 /www
[09:02] <ac7ss> ruan: scanner software.
[09:03] <ruan> ok.
[09:03] <Softdroid> Anyone who have solution to my problem? :)
[09:03] <ac7ss> Mrokii: you could install the .deb.
[09:03] <ruan> Softdroid: gksudo gstreamer-properties
[09:03] <tyreza> but my user don't have the sudo access Nero
[09:03] <tyreza> but my user don't have the sudo access Neroon
[09:04] <ac7ss> Mrokii: looks like you may have to compile it.
[09:04] <tyreza> sudo not working
[09:04] <ac7ss> tyreza: you will need to have the correct permissions to do that. talk to your administrator.
[09:05] <Neroon> well, then you might not be able to chmod. or who is the owner of that directory?
[09:05] <Neroon> tyreza:  well, then you might not be able to chmod. or who is the owner of that directory?
[09:05] <Mrokii> ac7ss: Yep, I didn't see a deb, only the generic linux-distribution. I guess I'll hav to try to compile it to see if it works. Though there could still be problems when I actally connect a scanner.
[09:05] <gnewb> eltigre: One of these posts has that same issue covered:>http://lists.therestfulway.com/pipermail/webmachine_lists.therestfulway.com/2010-August/000276.html
[09:05] <gnugr> hey guys never give rights 777 max 775 and then change to 644
[09:05] <eltigre> gnewb, it works now
[09:05] <gnewb> eltigre: Sweet!
[09:06] <eltigre> btw I have a stale sshfs, I killed it but I can't unmount the directory
[09:06] <eltigre> and I can't use lsof because "socket does not exist"
[09:06] <eltigre> lsof: status error on /media/laptop: Transport endpoint is not connected
[09:06] <tPl0ch> Hello, what could be the problem if my CD-ROM Drive (Combi Drive) is not recognizing CDs anymore?
[09:06] <eltigre> argh
[09:07] <ruan> tPl0ch: how long have you had that CD-rom drive?
[09:07] <Ben64> drives die after a while
[09:07] <eltigre> now that works
[09:07] <eltigre> but I am getting aggressive already
[09:07] <ruan> i've had 3 cdrom drives fail on me, crashing the PC on operations
[09:07] <Softdroid> ruan: Thanks!
[09:07] <tPl0ch> ruan, well, it was shipped with the PC 3 years I guess
[09:07] <tPl0ch> +/- some months
[09:07] <Ben64> tPl0ch: what does dmesg say when you put a disc in?
[09:08] <ruan> one makes the pc unbootable, other crashes pc on cd insertion, and other one makes a hard drive undetectable
[09:08] <trichard> hey, is there any way to get itunes podcasts in banshee?
[09:08] <mateokd> hellom can any one help me to configure multiseat for 10 user ?
[09:09] <tPl0ch> Ben64, it does nothing
[09:09] <tPl0ch> I can see it blinking, so there is a power connection and the Controller is running too
[09:09] <tyreza> the directory is owned by user Neroon
[09:09] <Neroon> tyreza: doh
[09:09] <ruan> tPl0ch: is it detected by the system?
[09:10] <ruan> the drive itself
[09:10] <tPl0ch> ruan, yeah, it's just not recognizing any CDs nor DVDs
[09:10] <ac7ss> tyreza: what do you see with a 'ls -l /www'
[09:11] <tyreza> just a sec ac7ss
[09:12] <ruan> tPl0ch: there is a way you can test it. try to boot off a CD
[09:12] <psilocybe> is there a way to check the average kbit of a .flv, through the shell ?
[09:12] <ruan> if it doesnt boot, it's not working
[09:12] <mateokd> hello can you help me to configure multiseat ?
[09:12] <psilocybe> i tried to google it but cant find it
[09:13] <tyreza> this is what i got : http://paste.ubuntu.com/583708/ ac7ss
[09:13] <tPl0ch> ruan, when trying to mount the cd manually I get: "umount: /dev/sr0: unknown device"
[09:14] <tPl0ch> ruan, ok, I'll try the boot thing, brb
[09:15] <ac7ss> tyreza: what do you see with a 'ls -la /www' (sorry needed the a)
[09:15] <Neroon> tyreza: so the owner is user1 and the group would be apache. is your username user1?
[09:15] <tyreza> yes
[09:15] <Neroon> ac7ss: he posted the output
[09:15] <tyreza> yes Neroon
[09:15] <ac7ss> I needed the -la (the www directory may have a different perm.
[09:16] <Neroon> ac7ss: my bad
[09:16] <tyreza> ok
[09:17] <ruan> if i type lscpu in a terminal, it says CPU op-mode(s):        64-bit
[09:17] <ruan> does that mean my CPU is 64bit?
[09:17] <sl33k_> how to manually start updates?
[09:18] <ruan> sl33k_: disable update manager on startup and open it when you want to update?
[09:18] <gnewb> !update | sl33k
[09:18] <gnugr> tyreza: the folder you want to have HTTP access: sudo chown www-data:www-data -R *
[09:18] <psilocybe> sl33k_: sudeo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:18] <psilocybe> *sudo
[09:19] <datalay> what is alternative report generator tools for oracle?
[09:19] <datalay> i prefer free alternatives
[09:19] <mateokd> hello can you help me to configure multiseat ?
[09:19] <root_> ubuntu
[09:20] <jsoft> What would be the best vm hosting software to use?
[09:20] <ljsoftnet> jsoft i like virtual box
[09:20] <ruan> virtualbox/vmware for full emulation. wine for simply running applications
[09:21] <jsoft> hmm
[09:21] <tyreza> here it is ac7ss
[09:21] <tyreza> http://paste.ubuntu.com/583712/
[09:21] <jsoft> what is the state of virtualbox? I thought it would be... lame from oracle?
[09:21] <ruan> havent personally tried virtualbox yet.
[09:21] <ljsoftnet> jsoft just give it a try
[09:22] <ljsoftnet> jsoft very easy to use
[09:22] <J450N__> virtualbox is awesome
[09:22] <jsoft> ive used it ages ago, when opensolaris was still kicking
[09:22] <tgywa> can I get file creation date on ubunut ?
[09:22] <jsoft> ljsoftnet: ive used it before.
[09:22] <ruan> i've tried vmware and it worked well for me, but i cant compare it till i see others
[09:22] <jsoft> ljsoftnet: just not since oracle took over sun.
[09:22] <llutz> tgywa: no
[09:23] <ruan> tgywa: you can only get last modified date
[09:23] <ac7ss> tryeza: chmod -R 777 /www
[09:23] <tgywa> ruan, how ?
[09:23] <ruan> tgywa: right click > properties
[09:23] <tgywa> no command line
[09:23] <ruan> hmm command line
[09:24] <llutz> tgywa: stat file
[09:24] <tgywa> llutz, thank u
[09:24] <ruan> modify and change mean the same thing don't they?
[09:24] <llutz> ruan: no
[09:24] <tPl0ch> Ben64, ruan http://pastebin.com/j9mb98zT - no luck with the boot from DVD
[09:24] <yogi__> why if i open or create new solution on monodevelop i got this error : Error: Error: A dependency of a referenced assembly may be missing, or you may be referencing an assembly created with a newer CLR version. See the compilation output for more details. (oncombro)
[09:24] <tyreza> it say t say not permitted
[09:25] <ruan> tPl0ch: so far it sounds like the cdrom is at fault
[09:25] <tyreza> let me explain you from first
[09:25] <llutz> ruan: http://articles.rootsmith.ca/linux/unix-access-modify-and-change-times
[09:25] <ac7ss> tryeza: chmod 777 /www
[09:25] <tyreza> not working too
[09:25] <tPl0ch> ruan, :(
[09:25] <tPl0ch> crap
[09:26] <tyreza> sorry
[09:26] <gnugr> omg please guys never 777 permissions, its easy for hacking
[09:26] <tyreza> simply chmod 777 /www working
[09:26] <datalay> ls / | xargs rm -fr
[09:26] <tyreza> but with -R not working
[09:26] <llutz> datalay: STOP
[09:26] <datalay> why :P
[09:27] <ac7ss> tryeza: some subdirectory contains files you don't have permissions for.
[09:27] <ruan> never follow random commands on irc?
[09:27] <Jordan_U> !danger
[09:27] <datalay> :)) okay sir
[09:27] <llutz> ruan: lots will blindly type those commands :(
[09:27] <lavarox> join #kubuntu
[09:27] <gnugr> max permissions should be 775 and after setup must be changed to 644
[09:28] <jsoft> What command
[09:28] <jsoft> oh whoa
[09:28] <jsoft> lol
[09:28] <jsoft> the xargs one :D
[09:28] <ruan> sounds like it deletes everything in /home
[09:29] <jsoft> try /
[09:29] <datalay> we can recover them come on give a chance
[09:29] <datalay> :P
[09:29] <llutz> ruan: it deletes everything a user has writeaccess
[09:29] <jsoft> oh yeah, would be normal user.
[09:29] <ruan> yeah but a user only has writeaccess to /home
[09:29] <llutz> datalay: stop that nonsense
[09:29] <tPl0ch> sudo chown -R username:www-data && sudo chmod -R g+wX /www
[09:29] <ruan> in most cases at least
[09:30] <llutz> ruan: just scroll back and read all those nice "chmod 777" tipps and you'll see the reality
[09:30] <jsoft> tPl0ch: whats that last bit do?
[09:30] <ac7ss> he doesn't have admin powers... tPl0ch.
[09:30] <jsoft> tPl0ch: whats the actual numbers?
[09:30] <datalay> find /www -type f -exec chmod -R 777 {} \;
[09:30] <froes>  hi guys, i used to use init and was able to start 2 XDM instances on my machine. tty0-tty3 was consoles and tty4 and tty5 were gdm consoles. is there a way i can do it on upstart or should i go back to init ?
[09:31] <ac7ss> tryeza: datalay has the right idea, it will only change the ones you can change.
[09:31] <daiichi> hey all, I'd have a quick question .. has anyone evaluated the performance gains of Wayland yet?
[09:31] <jsoft> daiichi: what is Wayland?
[09:32] <ruan> ^same question here
[09:32] <daiichi> the new display manager
[09:32] <llutz> froes: look at the upstart-scripts in /etc/init to get your old layout
[09:32] <cosmo> I am trying to make it so the other computers on my home network can access the shared media folders on my machine easily can someone look at my smb.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/583460/ and see what I have set wrong?
[09:32] <daiichi> that ubuntu is thinking of adopting
[09:32] <daiichi> in place of X
[09:32] <froes> llutz, i used to configure on /etc/inittab
[09:32] <froes> i can find some upstart script but cant find where to config on which tty it will start or how many instances
[09:33] <llutz> froes: since ubuntu uses upstart and not init, you have to configure the scripts in /etc/init now
[09:33] <czardoz> whats good about upstart?
[09:33] <llutz> czardoz: very good question
[09:33] <czardoz> i mean, what are the differences between upstart and init?
[09:33] <froes> llutz, and now i am back to my old question:     i used to use init and was able to start 2 XDM instances on my machine. tty0-tty3 was consoles and tty4 and tty5 were gdm consoles. is there a way i can do it on upstart or should i go back to init ?
[09:33] <tsimpson> !upstart
[09:34] <offsense> anone using cacti in here?
[09:34] <jsoft> cacti
[09:34] <perfect> hi
[09:34] <jsoft> why does that ring a bell
[09:34] <jsoft> monitoring software?
[09:34] <offsense_> jsoft: yeah that one
[09:34] <jsoft> offsense_: I think I looked at it and ended up sticking with nagios
[09:35] <jsoft> offsense_: it might have changed a lot since.
[09:36] <froes> nah ... just easyer to go back and get rid of inittab ... dont need it anyways
[09:36] <froes> get rid of pstart
[09:36] <offsense_> jsoft: yeah am using both actually, do u knw how to change poller interval in cacti
[09:36] <offsense_> i try to change it but it doesnt change a thing
[09:37] <perfect> 哦！我发现我到天堂了
[09:37] <ruan> again, i am confused between chinese and japanese
[09:37] <DJones> !cn | perfect
[09:37] <perfect> !cn>
[09:38] <perfect> !cn?
[09:38] <llutz> froes: remove /etc/init/tty[56].conf, duplicate/change /etc/init/gdm.conf to start gdm twice
[09:38] <czardoz> llutz, you on upstart?
[09:38] <llutz> czardoz: not yet
[09:39] <czardoz> hmm
[09:39] <czardoz> ok
[09:39] <llutz> czardoz: only  netbook runs ubuntu
[09:39] <froes> llutz, humm ... so i cant specify which tty it is going to run  ?
[09:39] <czardoz> I see
[09:40] <critical_max> OK, before I embark on an AutoIT+Wine project, is there a better alternative now for very simple GUI automation? (click through defaults on an installer app)
[09:40] <Neroon> anyone got a clue about joystick configuration?
[09:40] <czardoz> froes, you'll just have to go through all the config files I guess
[09:40] <critical_max> I have read about Sikuli but have no experience with it
[09:41] <ruan> critical_max: keyboard macros?
[09:41] <froes> czardoz, i cant see anything like that on the upstart script or the Xorg config files
[09:41] <ruan> tab, enter, etc
[09:41] <froes> so my assumption is that i cant do it
[09:42] <froes> can i set a environment variable on upstart ?
[09:42] <froes> i just need to export $DISPLAY
[09:42] <froes> so i can actually do that
[09:42] <critical_max> I need to be able to select radio buttons for license agreement, at least. I suppose it could possibly be done with a keyboard bot.
[09:42] <froes> just before
[09:42] <ruan> display seems to be a command
[09:43] <critical_max> ruan: i will check out if it's keyboardable, before chasing a GUI recorder app down. good point.
[09:44] <Penfold> derp
[09:44] <critical_max> herp
[09:45] <Stormshadow> hi all - question - i need a sound recorder and was thinking of the best utility to use - basically, there's this track which I'd like to have as mp3 (it's not a commercial track mind you) - I can play it from the website and I'd really like to have it saved as mp3, is there a way?
[09:45] <ruan> yep, it's keyboardable. tab is a good key there
[09:45] <ac7ss> night all.
[09:46] <czardoz> Stormshadow, is it flash content?
[09:46] <coz_> Stormshadow,  there is a firefox addon named    "video downloadhelper"   < that is the way it is spelled.... It should download the file in its original format
[09:46] <Stormshadow> its not a video
[09:46] <Stormshadow> its sound
[09:47] <Stormshadow> the file is from kpmmusic
[09:47] <Stormshadow> not sure whether its flash
[09:47] <ruan> Stormshadow: audacity or sound recorder
[09:47] <Ja23> Some files that I download go missing and I cannot find them while browsing...? any ideas?  This happens to bittorrent files from Transmission.  I know the files are there because I can ask Transmission to "Show the Files" but when I move up to the Downloads folder they're not there...
[09:48] <ruan> Ja23: when you save them, do you choose "open"?
[09:48] <czardoz> Ja23, usesearch to find 'em ;-)
[09:48] <czardoz> *use search
[09:48] <Creat0r> is there is software works on ubuntu that can allow me to make backup for all the host in my network?
[09:48] <ruan> hmm though
[09:48] <Ja23> They're downloaded on my computer by transmission, and are for sure there, just don't show up in nautilus...
[09:48] <Stormshadow> can audacity record to mp3 any sound coming out from my sound device?
[09:48] <czardoz> try pressing ctrl+h
[09:49] <Stormshadow> irrespective of what the sound format is
[09:49] <Ja23> Didn't work
[09:49] <Ja23> They are on a seperate partitions
[09:49] <czardoz> Stormshadow, save and then convert if you want
[09:49] <ruan> Stormshadow: yes
[09:49] <ruan> Stormshadow: but you need the LAME library first
[09:49] <Stormshadow> is it a matter of playing the sound on the web url and running a record session on audacity?
[09:50] <critical_max> ruan: ok, i can key through it all (if focus is not disturbed, it's an ancient windows app and flaky). working on xvkbd script now.
[09:50] <ruan> Stormshadow: yea
[09:50] <Softdroid> Please help. when I try to login in as sudo i get this message -> Softdroid is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[09:50] <critical_max> stormshadow: yes
[09:50] <Ja23> Alllso, when I logon to windows 7 the file's don't show up there either
[09:50] <critical_max> stormshadow: record from "default" device, make sure play through is disabled (default is stereo mix)
[09:50] <ruan> this incident will be reported? lol
[09:50] <czardoz> Softdroid, you need to be in the "wheel" group
[09:51] <Softdroid> czardoz: How is that possible?
[09:51] <critical_max> stormshadow: then you can export your audacity project as mp3 when you're happy with it. recommend wav though since you can.
[09:51] <czardoz> Softdroid, see "man usermod"
[09:51] <Softdroid> czardoz: I could login as sudo for some minutes ago. But i get that message now when i try.
[09:52] <llutz> czardoz: "admin "   not wheel
[09:52] <Stormshadow> playthrough is unchecked
[09:52] <Stormshadow> when i click record, the signal remains zeroed
[09:53] <kriume> lol
[09:53] <llutz> Softdroid: ask your administrator to add you to the "admin" group (sudo adduser <username> admin)
[09:53] <Softdroid> llutz: I'm the only one who is using this computer
[09:53] <Stormshadow> device is default
[09:53] <llutz> Softdroid: then you screwed up your sudoers-file
[09:53] <czardoz> llutz, you're right, it is wheel for arch :)
[09:54] <Softdroid> llutz: I wrote some command for fixing the audio with the skype.
[09:54] <llutz> czardoz: wheel for most distros but ubuntu
[09:54] <Softdroid> llutz: is is possible to fix it again?
[09:54] <czardoz> right-o
[09:54] <czardoz> Softdroid, use "usermod"
[09:54] <Softdroid> by login as root=?
[09:54] <czardoz> see its man page
[09:54] <ruby_on_tails> hi
[09:54] <czardoz> yes, by logging as root
[09:54] <ruan> Stormshadow: is it a bold blue or just a light blue line?
[09:55] <Stormshadow> bold
[09:55] <ruby_on_tails> i am playing some videos on youtube, weird, i get sound only from 1, all other videos are soundless, what should i do ?
[09:55] <Softdroid> here is the command i used --> usermod -Gaudio username
[09:56] <czardoz> why audio?
[09:56] <ruan> Stormshadow: i have the same issue. can you hear sound if you amplify it under Effect?
[09:56] <czardoz> you need to be in the "admin" group :)
[09:56] <Softdroid> i don't know. I read this page -> http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=4489
[09:56] <Softdroid> After that i can't use sudo
[09:56] <llutz> Softdroid: what's the output of "id"?
[09:56] <Softdroid> llutz: What is that mean?
[09:57] <czardoz> type "id" in terminal and press return
[09:57] <llutz> Softdroid: lists your uid and groups you're member of
[09:57] <Softdroid> llutz: How can i do that?
[09:57] <llutz> see czardoz Softdroid
[09:58] <llutz> without the quotes
[09:58] <Softdroid> whithout any flags?
[09:58] <llutz> Softdroid: just    id
[09:59] <Softdroid> I dont understand
[09:59] <Softdroid> usermod id?
[09:59] <cosmo> I am trying to make it so the other computers on my home network can access the shared media folders on my machine easily can someone look at my smb.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/583460/ and see what I have set wrong?
[09:59] <czardoz> Softdroid, type "id" in terminal and press return
[09:59] <llutz> Softdroid: just  type   id          into a terminal and give us the output
[09:59] <s3r3n1t7> Softdroid, no, just type this in a terminal without the quotes:          " id"
[09:59] <czardoz> its a different command
[10:00] <Softdroid> I get this --> uid=1000(softdroid) gid=1000(softdroid) grupper=1000(softdroid),29(audio)
[10:01] <Stormshadow> the input level meter never changes
[10:01] <Softdroid> what is that mean? :)
[10:01] <czardoz> so you are not in the admin group
[10:01] <llutz> Softdroid: you kicked yourself off all groups, reboot in recovery-mode and add yourself to the default groups +admin again
[10:01] <Stormshadow> its as if the input is not set correctly
[10:01] <ruan> brb
[10:01] <Softdroid> hehe
[10:01] <Softdroid> How could i do that
[10:01] <Softdroid> thanks
[10:02] <Softdroid> i will test it now
[10:02] <_antant> Morning
[10:02] <czardoz> you do that
[10:02] <czardoz> :)
[10:02] <Softdroid> how can i add me to admin again?
[10:02] <s3r3n1t7> czardoz, llutz, usermod -G sets the groups, it does not append to groups.
[10:02] <llutz> s3r3n1t7: true
[10:02] <coz_> critical_max,   just saw your post... have you looked into wmctrl ?
[10:02] <s3r3n1t7> Softdroid, adduser username admin
[10:02] <Softdroid> s3r3n1t7: thanks
[10:02] <s3r3n1t7> Softdroid, and ofcourse change username for your actual username
[10:02] <Softdroid> s3r3n1t7: Ok
[10:02] <_antant> Every time I try and make a soft symbolic link it gives me a broken link. What could I be doing wrong?
[10:02] <Softdroid> I'll be back
[10:03] <s3r3n1t7> _antant, are you using relative links?
[10:03] <czardoz> s3r3n1t7, usermod -G adds a user to the group I think
[10:03] <czardoz> though I might be wrong
[10:03] <frold> Any one know a beginner setup LAMP guide? Did follow: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_lamp_for_newbies but it eg. I have problem with user right and I have a upload script  where I cant "upload"  files.. works one a live site... So a Setting guide is needed :)
[10:03] <llutz> czardoz: usermod -a -G does
[10:03] <s3r3n1t7> czardoz, it sets a new list of groups, whereas -Ga actually appends
[10:04] <czardoz> ohh
[10:04] <czardoz> I see, thanks
[10:04] <s3r3n1t7> frold, checked the log files?
[10:04] <_antant> I'm using ln -s
[10:04] <llutz> czardoz: thats why i prefer adduser over usermod in most cases, less dangerous
[10:04] <czardoz> hmm
[10:04] <frold> s3r3n1t7: naahh - thats a little over newbie level :) Where to find those?
[10:04] <czardoz> I have never used it really
[10:04] <czardoz> :P
[10:05] <s3r3n1t7> frold, graphical interface for log files: system- administration - log viewer
[10:05] <s3r3n1t7> _antant, paste the command you're using please.
[10:06] <_antant> ln -s /mnt/STORAGE/Media /home/ant/Media
[10:06] <Softdroid> s3r3n1t7: It says only Sudo can add users to the admin list
[10:07] <llutz> Softdroid:  reboot in recovery-mode
[10:07] <s3r3n1t7> Softdroid, did you reboot into recovery mode?
[10:07] <Kingsy> anyone else had problems when browsing a windows network? in nautilus it just says "Unable to mount location" ?
[10:07] <Softdroid> I logged out and then logged in in Recovery Console?
[10:07] <frold> s3r3n1t7: cant find any php log
[10:07] <s3r3n1t7> frold, look for an apache log
[10:07] <johyn> fr
[10:07] <Softdroid> s3r3n1t7:  How can I reboot to recovery mode?
[10:08] <johyn> french?
[10:08] <s3r3n1t7> !recovery
[10:08] <s3r3n1t7> !fr
[10:08] <Softdroid> s3r3n1t7: thanks
[10:09] <ruan> i'm seeing my other windows computer under Network, and i havent set it up to be there, why is it there?
[10:09] <_antant> s3r3n1t7: what is wrong with  ln -s /mnt/STORAGE/Media /home/ant/Media    ?
[10:10] <Kingsy> anyone had that issue before?
[10:11] <frold> s3r3n1t7: no such log... But eg. only sudo have access to var/www
[10:12] <itda1032> whats the new name for java-6-sun ? i can't find that plugin anymore on my server...
[10:12] <sunit> I am trying to make a cron job with command  ./pan.sh file='/opt/data-integration/MainTransaction.ktr' with 45 minute interval where the path is /opt/Pentaho/data-integration in ubuntu 8.04 LTS server
[10:12] <s3r3n1t7> _antant, does the first location exist?
[10:12] <sunit> please suggest me what shall I do ?
[10:12] <ruan> itda1032: sun-java6-
[10:12] <s3r3n1t7> frold, that's odd, apache should have a log there ....
[10:12] <_antant> most certainly does
[10:12] <frold> s3r3n1t7: I might be blind...
[10:13] <ruan> itda1032: which plugin though?
[10:13] <_antant> HA! What a moron. No, it doesn't. I had it mounted differently than before apparently.
[10:13] <_antant> Cheers, s3r3n1t7
[10:14] <s3r3n1t7> frold, hmm oddly enough, neither does it show for me. Oh well, let's see if i understand. You have a script, that's under /var/www, which you would like the www user to be the owner so it can write there?
[10:16] <Eryn_1983_FL> hey peeps is there a bug in the  recent update of  samba??
[10:16] <s3r3n1t7> sunit, you'll have to write a few lines, then specify which hours it should run at 0, 15, 30 and 45 minutes
[10:16] <Eryn_1983_FL> i am getting  alot of  errors
[10:17] <frold> s3r3n1t7:  thats the first issue I guess.. Well, I dont know what the default owner is when you run a localhost? I just want to be able to test some scripts locally :)
[10:17] <s3r3n1t7> sunit, oh, you can use */45 * * * * command
[10:17] <Eryn_1983_FL> Mar 22 06:16:00 gabrielle kernel: [ 1331.916404] CIFS VFS: Send error in SessSetup = -88
[10:17] <Eryn_1983_FL> Mar 22 06:16:00 gabrielle kernel: [ 1331.916450] CIFS VFS: Send error in SessSetup = -88
[10:17] <Eryn_1983_FL> Mar 22 06:16:00 gabrielle kernel: [ 1331.916495] CIFS VFS: Send error in SessSetup = -88
[10:17] <Eryn_1983_FL> Mar 22 06:16:00 gabrielle kernel: [ 1331.916541] CIFS VFS: Send error in SessSetup = -88
[10:17] <FloodBot1> Eryn_1983_FL: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:17] <s3r3n1t7> Eryn_1983_FL, don't paste here, use pastebin
[10:17] <Anonymous11> hey is there anyway to get GPU acceleration on my videos?
[10:17] <s3r3n1t7> frold, should be the www-data user
[10:17] <Eryn_1983_FL> lol
[10:17] <Eryn_1983_FL> it was  4 lines thats the max.
[10:18] <Eryn_1983_FL> so whats the  deal with  samba
[10:18] <frold> s3r3n1t7: group
[10:18] <frold> ?
[10:18] <Anonymous11> anyone?
[10:19] <s3r3n1t7> frold, i think that's also www-data, let me confirm here though
[10:19] <s3r3n1t7> Eryn_1983_FL, you should really google that error, it has so much useful information. http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-81209.html for example.
[10:19] <sunit> s3r3n1t7: thanks for reply.what shall be full command ?
[10:20] <motaka2> does openoffice has a special channel ?
[10:21] <s3r3n1t7> sunit, for the folder that you're trying to write in, do this: sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www/thefolder
[10:21] <ruan> !oo | motaka2
[10:22] <motaka2> ruan: I need to expand the dreawing area in oo draw , do u have any experience in that?
[10:23] <joab> I'm running lucid and seem to have a pstree binary linked to libtermcap.so.2 and I can't figure out why. On my other server also running lucid it's linked to libncurses.so.5 as it should be.
[10:23] <ruan> motaka2: i dont have any experience with openoffice
[10:23] <motaka2> ruan: thank you anyway
[10:23] <ruan> motaka2: you can try in #openoffice.org
[10:23] <sunit> s3r3n1t7: Please clarify. I could not understand
[10:23] <motaka2> ruan: I did , it seems like one o fthose rooms that no one answers u
[10:24] <Anonymous11> hey is there anyway to get GPU acceleration on my videos?
[10:24] <Anonymous11> ATI video card
[10:24] <ruan> motaka2: hmm i got it
[10:24] <ruan> motaka2: right click page > page > page setup
[10:25] <Mika__> Hello
[10:25] <frold> s3r3n1t7: Was it www-data:www-data for var/www ?
[10:25] <ecinx3> what's tthe difference between ipp pdl-datastream and printer when seting up a printer?
[10:26] <Mika__> is it possible to make 1 primary partition and under it 1 extentened partition and under it 64 logical partitions? so its like 4 x 64  logical partitions?
[10:26] <sl33k_> the update manager says i dont have enough memory? what do?
[10:26] <stephaaan> Mika__, 64 partitions? Just out of curiousity, what for? :)
[10:27] <motaka2> ruan: wonderful thank you
[10:27] <Mika__> lol just for fun...nothing serious :P
[10:27] <Mika__> i wanna just know that
[10:27] <ruan> motaka2: you're welcome :)
[10:27] <ruan> Mika__: have you tried in gparted?
[10:28] <Mika__> no i dont have linux now front of me :/
[10:28] <ruan> though i think it may be possible
[10:29] <Softdroid> s3r3n1t7: I could not fix it
[10:29] <ruan> but very messy
[10:29] <Softdroid> s3r3n1t7: I went to recovery mode and picked the root option
[10:29] <kaushal> hi
[10:30] <s3r3n1t7> frold, the /var/www folder is the one that www-data should own,
[10:30] <kaushal> will FF 4 ported to 10.10 ?
[10:30] <Mika__> yeah
[10:30] <Mika__> i dont care...i like messy :P
[10:30] <ruan> lol
[10:30] <llutz> Mika__: you only can have one extended partition holding logical drives
[10:30] <Mika__> hmm
[10:30] <Softdroid> s3r3n1t7: But it ask for my password and doesnt accepted my old sudo pass
[10:30] <s3r3n1t7> Mika__, no, only 1 extended partition and under that you can have a nearly unlimited amount of logical.
[10:30] <Mika__> hmmm
[10:31] <Mika__> this is what im talking about
[10:31] <sl33k_> how do i update? manager shos low memopry?
[10:31] <cutiyar_> while cheking for new update in update manager it give me this window error http://pastebin.com/evnSLQ7k
[10:31] <llutz> s3r3n1t7: you can't since the device minor-/major-numbering limits the amount
[10:31] <ruan> sl33k_: update what exactly?
[10:32] <psilocybe> ruan: thats what i asked him before, but then he ignored my question :)
[10:32] <sl33k_> ruan: packages by update manager
[10:32] <s3r3n1t7> llutz, google tells me that it's only limited by the amount of drive space
[10:33] <ruan> sl33k_: low memory? how much do you have free?
[10:33] <sl33k_> psilocybe: fyi, i did not ignore intentionally
[10:33] <cutiyar_> while cheking for new update in update manager it give me this window error http://pastebin.com/evnSLQ7k
[10:33] <psilocybe> you ignored me unintentionally :D
[10:33] <sl33k_> :D
[10:34] <critical_max> ruan: haha, apparently AutoHotkey got packaged in ubuntu while I wasn't looking... geez... also, xvkbd did fail to send messages to this particular windows app under wine (it's worked in that situation before, just not this time)
[10:34] <sl33k_> ruan: it says i need 610 M free
[10:34] <llutz> s3r3n1t7: afaik highest device-minor number is 63, so the maximum would be /dev/sdX63  (63 -5 = 58 logical drives)
[10:35] <ruan> sl33k_: how much do you have free?
[10:35] <Ja23> Why would some files, on a seperate partition but same HD, not show up?
[10:36] <froes> hi you all, how can i define the different runlevels on maverick ?
[10:36] <llutz> aeh, -4 = 59 *
[10:36] <sl33k_> ruan: how do i find that
[10:36] <Ja23> I downloaded them via Transmission (bittorrent) and they've been there for awhile, but today when I rebooted into Windows I couldn't find them, then when I came back to Ubuntu they weren't there either
[10:36] <czardoz> froes, didnt get you there
[10:36] <Ja23> But the files are actually there, just not showing up
[10:36] <ruan> sl33k_: system > administration > system monitor > resources
[10:37] <Mika__> In terms of the data structures, the theoretical limit on MBR logical partitions is about 2^31 (about 2 billion), but they'd all be tiny 1-sector (normally 512-byte) partitions, and you'd need a disk with 2^32 (about 4 billion) sectors to support this many partitions. If there's a lower limit in the Linux kernel, I don't know what it is. I once put about 18 or 20 logical partitions on a disk just to test it and I had no problems wit
[10:37] <czardoz> if you want to change the runlevel, use telinit
[10:37] <ruan> waitt...
[10:37] <cutiyar_> while cheking for new update in update manager it give me this window error http://pastebin.com/evnSLQ7k
[10:37] <froes> czardoz, different runlevels runlevel 3 command prompt, runlevel 5 Xorg, etc
[10:38] <Softdroid> How can I restore my broken sudo, please help
[10:38] <bigmahat1a> hello. I'm using 10.04 and the sound stopped wotking. Could anybody help me please?
[10:38] <froes> czardoz, i would like to define what each one of them is
[10:38] <sl33k_> ruan: 823 MiB of 1.9 GiB
[10:38] <erUSUL> Softdroid: how is it broken?
[10:38] <llutz> Softdroid: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[10:38] <ruan> sl33k_: ok, can you try to update a lower amount of applications or free up some ram?
[10:38] <llutz> erUSUL: he kicked himself from all groups but "audio"
[10:39] <Softdroid> erUSUL: It says im not in the sudoers list anymore
[10:39] <erUSUL> llutz: usermod without -a ;P
[10:39] <czardoz> froes, by default, Ubuntu does not differentiate (as far as I know)
[10:39] <ruan> !sound | bigmahat1a
[10:39] <llutz> erUSUL: exact
[10:39] <s3r3n1t7> llutz, it's the OS that actually makes that limit. Also, IDE has the limit of 58 logical, sata does not
[10:39] <froes> for example, what if i want on runlevel 3, tty1 console, on runlevel 4 tty1 xorg
[10:39] <sl33k_> ruan: how do i free up that much RAM
[10:39] <ruan> sl33k_: check what is taking up the ram
[10:39] <Softdroid> llutz: thanks
[10:40] <llutz> s3r3n1t7: ok, i was speaking os-wise since the rest is more theoretical
[10:40] <czardoz> Sorry, I do not know how to configure that one
[10:40] <s3r3n1t7> llutz, then yes, you were correct
[10:40] <erUSUL> Softdroid: boot into recovery mode -> drop to root shell -> run « adduser yourusernamehere admin »
[10:40] <ruan> sl33k_: what happens if you do one update?
[10:40] <ruan> sl33k_: instead of all of them
[10:40] <czardoz> froes, but why would you want to change those numbers?
[10:40] <llutz> s3r3n1t7: drive you cannot address are pretty useless (for me)
[10:40] <Softdroid> erUSUL: I just did that, but it ask for sudo password when i d
[10:40] <Softdroid> o
[10:40] <livingdaylight> can I ask about kubuntu here?
[10:41] <czardoz> froes, a simple shell script will let you change runlevels
[10:41] <s3r3n1t7> llutz, but whether or not you could address then was not the issue here
[10:41] <ruan> livingdaylight: yes
[10:41] <s3r3n1t7> Softdroid, don't use sudo
[10:41] <llutz> s3r3n1t7: then i got the initial question wrong, sry
[10:41] <erUSUL> Softdroid: if you choosed drop to root shell you do not need to use sudo
[10:41] <Softdroid> Ok, i will try again
[10:42] <Softdroid> see you soon
[10:42] <livingdaylight> ruan, installing kubuntu on laptop, but facing issues at partition section of install because I want to keep windows partition, and therefore not use 'entire' disc
[10:42] <s3r3n1t7> llutz, no apology required, we're both correct.
[10:42] <ruan> livingdaylight: then create a new partition for ubuntu
[10:42] <sunit> s3r3n1t7: Please clarify
[10:42] <s3r3n1t7> sunit, clarify what exactly?
[10:43] <sunit> s3r3n1t7:what should be complete command ?
[10:43] <livingdaylight> ruan, obviously, but I can't seem to further partition the half of the drive (80gb) for kubuntu. I need root / and home partitions, and boot? and swap?
[10:43] <s3r3n1t7> sunit, sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www
[10:44] <ruan> eh. i use a single partition for /root /home /boot and i dont use swap
[10:44] <hello> 有中国人不
[10:44] <DJones> !cn | hello
[10:44] <root> hii
[10:44] <root> :D
[10:44] <hello> 好啊
[10:44] <root> xDD
[10:44] <sl33k_> ruan: one is working
[10:44] <hello> 终于看见国语了 那个亲啊
[10:44] <ljsoftnet> !cn | hello
[10:44] <root> !cn aaa
[10:44] <root> :D
[10:45] <froes> czardoz, not about changing those numbers
[10:45] <livingdaylight> ruan, you need sub partitions for /, home, etc
[10:45] <Guest72835> xD
[10:45] <ruan> sl33k_: then try half and half updates
[10:45] <shruggar> can automount (or similar) be made to run an arbitrary command in order to handle the "mount" and "unmount" operations?
[10:45] <motaka2> what does panning means in english ? I look for the right term for the tool with which you can make the ccursur like a hand and navigate in a graphical page to see all parts
[10:45] <Garfio> hoola
[10:45] <hello> 有中国人不
[10:45] <llutz> shruggar: for removable media? use udev-rules
[10:46] <livingdaylight> ruan, I'd be happy if I could let ubuntu manage the one half of my hd, but i need to creat all partitions
[10:46] <czardoz> froes, on ubuntu, ALL runlevels are the same.
[10:46] <ruan> hmm.
[10:46] <Dannyd> does ubuntu have install using LVM?
[10:46] <czardoz> :)
[10:46] <froes> czardoz, it is about each runlevel, run a different set of computer services, of applications
[10:46] <Guest72835> asd
[10:46] <sl33k_> ruan: chrome tabs take half of that i think
[10:46] <Guest72835> ds
[10:46] <Guest72835> das
[10:46] <Guest72835> sda
[10:46] <Guest72835> das
[10:46] <FloodBot1> Guest72835: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:46] <Guest72835> dsa
[10:47] <halvor> hei hei
[10:47] <froes> czardoz, any ideas on how to make the same thing ?
[10:47] <Dannyd> does ubuntu have an install using LVM?
[10:47] <czardoz> froes, what exactly do you want to do? Configure runlevels?
[10:47] <Dannyd> does ubuntu have an install using LVM option?
[10:47] <arand> Dannyd: Using the alternate install CD yes
[10:48] <critical_max> gah, it's actually *autokey*, not autohotkey, different app! In other words, I got keyword sniped with apt-cache search :)
[10:48] <froes> czardoz, exactlly
[10:48] <psilocybe> Dannyd: Repeating can be very annoying, repeating can be very annoying :P
[10:48] <shruggar> llutz, no, for "cd /magic/directory" -> [mount something behind the scenes]. Specifically I want to be able to just go to /var/snapshots/SomeNumber and have something mount a nilfs2 snapshot for me
[10:48] <halvor> have anyone ever experienced such things with network-manager, wicd or connman that the wifi is off in the applet, but ifconfig shows it's up okkei?
[10:48] <livingdaylight> can someone help me with kubuntu?
[10:48] <czardoz> froes, have a look: http://www.debianadmin.com/debian-and-ubuntu-linux-run-levels.html
[10:48] <halvor> and i can't even turn it on with any of the mentioned applets
[10:49] <czardoz> froes, it has detailed instructions on how to configure :)
[10:49] <erUSUL> shruggar: autofs?
[10:49] <ruan> strange. i have a single partition on my hard drive for everything
[10:49] <halvor> guys?
[10:49] <llutz> shruggar: sounds not like a thing udev can do, no idea sry
[10:49] <livingdaylight> any kubuntu experts in the house?
[10:49] <sl33k_> ruan: this does not have anything to do with disk size, does it?
[10:50] <ruan> sl33k_: i doubt it
[10:50] <phoenixsampras> I cant Find SWAT to admin Samba? !! help
[10:50] <shruggar> erUSUL, yeah, I was looking into autofs, but I don't see any way to run arbitrary commands for the mount/unmount steps, and nilfs2 requires that I mark checkpoints as "snapshots" prior to mounting them
[10:50] <Dannyd> arand: how do I get an alternate CD?
[10:50] <llutz> !info swat| phoenixsampras
[10:50] <llutz> !info swat
[10:50] <elFidel> phoenixsampras: define "cant find"
[10:50] <sl33k_> thanks ruan
[10:50] <llutz> phoenixsampras: sudo apt-get install swat
[10:51] <obscurant1st> anyone with experiance on installing  armel architecture ubuntu into any android device? if so, pls let me, i am stuck at one point!
[10:51] <NCS_One> hi
[10:51] <Dannyd> psilocybe: im almost going to repeat the question now
[10:52] <Dannyd> how do I get an alternate CD? ok i repeated it?
[10:52] <froes> czardoz, that article is not UPSTART friendly
[10:52] <arand> !alternate | Dannyd
[10:52] <Dannyd> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download has just one CD
[10:52] <froes> czardoz, if it was, i wasnt haning this problem
[10:52] <llutz> Dannyd: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download
[10:52] <Softdroid_> erUSUL: When i drop to root shell it says -> type root password for maintance or Ctrl+D to continue
[10:53] <Softdroid_> erUSUL: So i can't go to root shell
[10:53] <bullgard4> Does it make sense to copy the file banshee.db to another computer?
[10:53] <sl33k_> how do i find what version my pip is?
[10:53] <czardoz> froes, hmm, then i cant help, soory :)
[10:53] <NCS_One> I'm copying a libQt4pas.so.5.2.1 with 3 sym links but when I do "sudo ldconfig" I get "/sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/libQt4Pas.so.5 is not a symbolic link", what can be wrong?
[10:53] <erUSUL> Softdroid_: tried crtl + D ?
[10:53] <erUSUL> sl33k_: what is pip?
[10:53] <bullgard4> sl33k_: What is "pip"?
[10:53] <Softdroid_> erUSUL: Yes, I come back to the main menu
[10:54] <phoenixsampras> stupid Ubuntu software center, dont have the Swat stuff...
[10:54] <froes> the thing is that even on ubuntu linux you cannot do it ?? so that if my board anytime in life fails the computer will never start because it will give me kernel panic
[10:54] <erUSUL> Softdroid_: did you enabled the root account at some point?
[10:54] <sl33k_> bullgard4, erUSUL: python installer package i guess
[10:54] <Softdroid_> erUSUL: Yes, but I disabled it again
[10:54] <froes> sorry .. ubuntu server you cant
[10:54] <bullgard4> phoenixsampras: Pebkac
[10:54] <erUSUL> Softdroid_: how did you disabled it?
[10:55] <erUSUL> Softdroid_: because it looks like the system thinks is still enabled ...
[10:55] <Softdroid_> erUSUL: I found a command line that make it inactive
[10:55] <critical_max> coz_: just saw your post, checking into wmctrl now
[10:55] <coz_> critical_max, cool
[10:55] <erUSUL> Softdroid_: do you remember the command?
[10:55] <critical_max> coz_: my ideal solution integrates well with a bash wrapper. my task ultimately involves repackaging and a lot of messy glue
[10:55] <Softdroid_> erUSUL: I cant search for it
[10:55] <bullgard4> sl33k_: You can use Synaptic for that purpose.
[10:56] <erUSUL> Softdroid_: it would help
[10:56] <coz_> critical_max,  understood... not sure what the best solution would be for this.. wouldnt mind having a nice  very functional automator myself :)
[10:56] <Softdroid_> erUSUL: I think i wrote --> sudo passwd -l root
[10:57] <sl33k_> bullgard4: which folder are the packages installed?
[10:57] <critical_max> coz_: sadly, wmctrl doesn't work for wine apps (like most other linux automation tools...)
[10:58] <critical_max> coz_: the issue has been tracked down to wine not implementing stuff right for it yet, iirc
[10:58] <sunit> s3r3n1t7: shall I write  */45 * * * *  sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www//opt/Pentaho/data-integration/pan.sh file='/opt/data-integration/MainTransaction.ktr ?
[10:58] <erUSUL> Softdroid_: :/
[10:58] <critical_max> coz_: so i'm going to use my fresh autoit install in wine to do it :)
[10:58] <Softdroid_> erUSUL: What is that mean ? :)
[10:58] <coz_> critical_max,  oh cool
[10:58] <s3r3n1t7> sunit, you're mixing replies, which is not good. No.
[10:58] <erUSUL> Softdroid_: more problems...
[10:58] <critical_max> coz_: yah, autoit is like a cadillac compared to all those other apps anyway *ducks*
[10:59] <Softdroid_> erUSUL: So the only way is to format it?
[10:59] <erUSUL> Softdroid_: you will have to use a livecd and chroot.
[10:59] <sunit> s3r3n1t7: what shall I do ?
[10:59] <coz_> critical_max,  I will have to revisit my search and check out this autoit  :)
[10:59] <Softdroid_> erUSUL: I have a live CD, what is chroot
[10:59] <s3r3n1t7> sunit, ask your question again, to the channel.
[10:59] <bullgard4> sl33k_: Usually the pckages are only installed temporarily on your local computer unless you say differently otherwise. As a rule Ubuntu will delete them after having installed the package files on your computer and configured them.
[11:00] <erUSUL> Softdroid_: boot into the livecd and enter here
[11:00] <critical_max> coz_: both autohotkey and autoit work pretty well in wine, autohotkey being a fork of autoit. which one you use probably will depend on pre-existing scripts you can reuse written for one or the other. barrier of entry for both is tiny
[11:00] <sl33k_> bullgard4: the executables?
[11:01] <Softdroid_> ok
[11:01] <coz_> critical_max,  mm thanks,,, i am checking it out now
[11:01] <bullgard4> sl33k_: executables are files and no packages.
[11:01] <critical_max> coz_: i'm just not sure how well i can grab environment variables set by my wrapper script..that will be the fun part
[11:01] <sl33k_> bullgard4: my bad, i mean the packages
[11:01] <sunit_>  s3r3n1t7: what shall I do ?
[11:01] <coz_> critical_max,  good luck on that... would be nice to use something like this to create a compiz ... automated desktop... for a demo
[11:01] <bullgard4> sl33k_: So please put a complete sentence question here.
[11:02] <critical_max> coz_: if you're trying to impress your boss, i'd go right to Sikuli, it seems to be the new hotness
[11:02] <sl33k_> bullgard4: my bad
[11:02] <coz_> critical_max,  :)  will check that out as well
[11:02] <psilocybe> sl33k_: come on man, youve been here for over 2 hours and yet you still failed to qsk one simple question xD
[11:03] <psilocybe> *ask
[11:03] <bullgard4> sl33k_: So how can I help you understanding?
[11:03] <psilocybe> sl33k_: i have been trying to help you, like other people in here
[11:03] <ruan> any mouse macroing applications for linux?
[11:03] <ruan> i've searched the repos but havent found anything
[11:03] <psilocybe> sl33k_: please buy a linux book or something
[11:03] <phoenixsampras> help, i cant find the package 'LDAP ACCOUNT MANAGER' where is it??
[11:03] <sl33k_> psilocybe: why am i on your case today :D
[11:04] <sl33k_> its not monday god darit
[11:04] <cutiyar_> while cheking for new update in update manager it give me this window error http://pastebin.com/evnSLQ7k
[11:04] <llutz> !info ldap-account-manager
[11:04] <psilocybe> sl33k_: Because i tried to help you and i keep seeing you asking the same vague questions over and over, and when someone asks details you stop talking
[11:04] <llutz> phoenixsampras: learn to use "apt-get search"
[11:04] <psilocybe> sl33k_: it almost looks like youre trolling around
[11:04] <llutz> phoenixsampras: sudo apt-get install ldap-account-manager
[11:05] <phoenixsampras> llutz: wow, works, thanks bro, ubuntu rocks
[11:05] <sl33k_> psilocybe: no trolling here i assure you,
[11:05] <psilocybe> sl33k_: so, please think of a real good question you can ask, so that people can actually give you a satisfying answer ;)
[11:06] <zvacet> cutiyar_:  try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade if you still get errors paste it here
[11:07] <Softdroid_> erUSUL: I\m back stating with a live cd
[11:07] <cutiyar_> zvacet, i tried with it before ,i get this error in ap-get update http://pastebin.com/ytApkwqL
[11:08] <erUSUL> Softdroid_: you know what your ubuntu root partition is?
[11:08] <Softdroid_> erUSUL: Yes, I know
[11:09] <zvacet> cutiyar_:  beryl is not supported any more you have compiz instead remove that line from your source list
[11:09] <erUSUL> Softdroid_: sudo mount -t auto /dev/sdxx /mnt/
[11:09] <Softdroid_> erUSUL: /dev/sdb1
[11:09] <erUSUL> Softdroid_: sudo mount -t auto /dev/sdb1 /mnt/
[11:09] <cutiyar_> zvacet, WHAT WAS THE DIRECTORY OF SOURCLIST FILE?
[11:10] <s3r3n1t7> cutiyar_, no caps please
[11:10] <cutiyar_> s3r3n1t7, please shut the fuck upppp , i forget it
[11:10] <zvacet> cutiyar_:  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove that line
[11:10] <bazhang> cutiyar_, stop the cursing now
[11:10] <czardoz> cutiyar_, :-/
[11:11] <Softdroid_> erUSUL: Ok, its done
[11:11] <elky> cutiyar_, none of that attitude please :(
[11:11] <s3r3n1t7> cutiyar_, no reason to start swearing. I'm asking you a normal question, that's no way to respond.
[11:11] <zvacet> !language | cutiyar_
[11:11] <cutiyar_> s3r3n1t7, i forget it m if i repeat it u can say this
[11:11] <erUSUL> Softdroid_: sudo mount --bind /dev/ /mnt/dev/ && sudo mount --bind /proc/ /mnt/proc/ && sudo mount --bind /sys/ /mnt/sys/
[11:11] <froes> my friend has a laptop with that has intel graphics. everytime he puts a flash movie on fullscreen, the sound keeps going but everything else freezes. i try killing everything, but it looks like nothing happens... anyone have any ideas ?
[11:12] <Softdroid_> erUSUL:  OK, done
[11:12] <erUSUL> Softdroid_:  sudo chroot /mnt/
[11:12] <Softdroid_> erUSUL: Ok, done
[11:13] <erUSUL> Softdroid_: adduser yourusernamehere admin
[11:13] <Softdroid_> erUSUL:  Done
[11:14] <Softdroid_> erUSUL: Can i reboot now_
[11:14] <erUSUL> Softdroid_: unlock root account « sudo passwd -u root » change password to blank/empty one « sudo passwd root » then lock it again « sudo passwd -l root »
[11:14] <erUSUL> Softdroid_: then you can reboot without the livecd
[11:16] <Softdroid_> erUSUL:  How can i chnage it to blank_
[11:16] <KolakCC> Can I host a webserver and a vnc server on the same port?
[11:16] <erUSUL> Softdroid_: press enter when asked
[11:16] <jacklee> how do u get flash working on ubuntu 64bit
[11:16] <erUSUL> KolakCC: no
[11:16] <jacklee> i have tried everything
[11:16] <Softdroid_> erUSUL:  when i just hit the reutn it says No password supplied
[11:16] <erUSUL> jacklee: just install it like you do in 32 bits.
[11:16] <erUSUL> Softdroid_: :/ well then do not do that step. just reboot
[11:17] <bullgard4> Does it make sense to copy the file banshee.db to another computer?
[11:19] <iwii> Hi. Has anyone managed to set a custom message in empathy with the "busy" icon?
[11:21] <jacklee> erUSUL, i tried going to http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
[11:21] <jacklee> but no luck
[11:21] <jacklee> also tried through aptitude
[11:21] <Softdroid> erUSUL: Don't know how to thank you
[11:21] <Softdroid> erUSUL: Thank you for giving me your time
[11:21] <Softdroid> God bless you
[11:22] <Softdroid> :)
[11:22] <erUSUL> Softdroid: no problem. you have to add yur users to a few more groups now
[11:22] <sacarlson> jacklee: what about the restricted extra package ?
[11:22] <Softdroid> erUSUL: hmm. How can I do that?
[11:23] <jacklee> i have deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic main restricted
[11:23] <erUSUL> Softdroid: audio plugdev scanner video come to mind... you also have to be in a group named like your username
[11:23] <jacklee> in my sources list
[11:23] <erUSUL> Softdroid: sudo adduser youruserhere groupname
[11:23] <erUSUL> Softdroid: repeat
[11:23] <erUSUL> Softdroid: then log out and log in again
[11:23] <Softdroid> erUSUL: How can I find the groupnames?
[11:24] <v_v> Softdroid: cat /etc/group ?
[11:24] <phoenixsampras> what is the service name for SAMBA?
[11:24] <sacarlson> jacklee: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras as seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[11:24] <sl33k_> How to remove a particular package?
[11:24] <phoenixsampras> sl33k_: synaptic
[11:25] <Softdroid> erUSUL: Thanks alot
[11:25] <phoenixsampras> HELP!!
[11:26] <zvacet> jacklee:  see http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/install-flash-10-ubuntu-linux-64bit.html
[11:26] <sniperjo> for some reason when i use the mplayer from a bash script after it plays the file it exits both mplayer and the bash script, without finishing the bash script. Any ideas what is causing this  ?
[11:26] <zvacet> sl33k_: from synaptic
[11:26] <sl33k_> thank you both
[11:27] <czardoz> sniperjo, add an "&" at the end of the last command
[11:29] <jacklee> zvacet, works perfect !
[11:30] <sniperjo_> Ive got a bash script uses mplayer to play a video file. After mplayer is done playing the file, it quits and seems to quit the bash script before it can finnish. Any ideas why this is happening / how to stop it ?
[11:31] <zvacet> jacklee: good  :)
[11:32] <jatt> indeed
[11:32] <soerenbnoergaard> sniperjo_: What does your script look like?
[11:34] <jacklee> one more question..
[11:34] <jacklee> how can i update my applications without breaking my nvidia-driver
[11:34] <jrib> jacklee: use update-manager
[11:34] <sniperjo_> soerenbnoergaard: mplayer -zoom -fs thefile.mp4 , once the video is finiished playing mplayer outputs "Exiting... End of file"  and dies, and seems to kill my bash script with it
[11:34] <jacklee> i have sony vpcz1 and it was a pain to get the nvida driver working..
[11:35] <AndrewMac> hey guys, how would i force a reinstall of the base python on ubuntu, i think its 2.4 but i could be mistaken
[11:35] <soerenbnoergaard> sniperjo_: Is there anything after that line in the bash script?
[11:35] <jrib> jacklee: why?  Just use Additional Drivers to get the nvidia drivers.  That way update-manager handles the updates for nvidia too.
[11:35] <jrib> AndrewMac: why?  Reinstalling rarely fixes anything?
[11:35] <Fuchs> jacklee: updating applications should never break the driver.
[11:35] <sniperjo_> soerenbnoergaard:  yea.. echo "why isnt this working"
[11:35] <sniperjo_> lol
[11:35] <Fuchs> jacklee: updating the kernel might, if you installed the driver manually. But then you can still choose the old kernel at boot time
[11:35] <freebse> updating the kernel or drivers does
[11:36] <freebse> apt-get update can not harm the system apt-get upgrade hm, because then it could be that X is updated
[11:36] <jacklee> it wants me to update to 10.04.1
[11:37] <jacklee> if i update the kernel it may break my driver
[11:37] <jrib> jacklee: how did you install the driver?
[11:37] <jacklee> because won't the libs be incorrect.
[11:37] <freebse> this called update in Ubunut, but actually it is an upgrade incl dist-upgrade... I don't like it, that they call it update
[11:37] <jrib> freebse: huh?
[11:38] <Pici> freebse: A dist-upgrade isn't supposed to upgrade you to a new release of Ubuntu.  Its a misnomer.
[11:38] <soerenbnoergaard> sniperjo_: Hmm.. I made a script writing mplayer mp3.mp3; echo "Hi" and it worked fine..
[11:38] <freebse> krib: the update-manager does call a distribution upgrade not upgrade but update in Ubunut, this is confusing
[11:38] <soerenbnoergaard> sniperjo_: Echoes "Hi" after playing the file.
[11:38] <jrib> freebse: read « man apt-get » on what exactly the "dist-upgrade" command does
[11:38] <freebse> Pici: forget dist-upgrade
[11:39] <freebse> Pici: but from version 10.04 to 10.10 is an upgrade not an update
[11:39] <jrib> freebse: oh
[11:39] <jacklee> jrib i downloaded a certain nvidia driver from the internet to get the screen to work
[11:39] <soerenbnoergaard> sniperjo_: Do you have #!/bin/bash in the start of the file?
[11:40] <jrib> jacklee: yes, get rid of that one and use System → Administration → Additional Drivers instead
[11:40] <erUSUL> sniperjo_: just paste the whole script in a pastebin...
[11:40] <sniperjo_> soerenbnoergaard, hang on ill posit it on pastebin
[11:40] <jacklee> when i installed ubuntu without following the tut i would just get a black screen.
[11:40] <jacklee> no display
[11:40] <zvacet> freebse: but sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will not upgrade to new release
[11:41] <jacklee> i tried the additional drivers which didn't work
[11:41] <offsense> anyone have used the new firefox 4?
[11:41] <sl33k_> zvacet: it only shows the option like 'mark for installation'
[11:41] <jrib> I think freebse is just complaining about the wording that update-manager uses when offering a distribution upgrade to users
[11:41] <edbian> offsense, yes and it is great
[11:41] <freebse> zvacet: I know, the only problem is the Ubuntu calls Upgrades Updates in it's graphical GUI thing
[11:41] <v_v> offsense: me me me
[11:41] <v_v> ;P
[11:41] <jrib> jacklee: how did you try it if your screen was black?
[11:41] <freebse> right because it should be called upgrade-manager
[11:41] <Pici> freebse: You want to file a bug if you think it is misleading.
[11:41] <offsense> edbian, v_v : lol is it much faster than current chrome ?
[11:41] <freebse> Pici: it is no bug, init?
[11:42] <edbian> freebse, It's annoying.  There are two many things that a common layperson would call 'upgrading' and they simply ran out of words
[11:42] <v_v> offsense: no
[11:42] <edbian> offsense, I think it's as fast as chrome.
[11:42] <zvacet> sl33k_:  you also can see installed packages with green box on the left
[11:42] <jacklee> jrib because had onen stange i got it to work but i couldn't go above 600by800 then i tried the addional drivers from the update manager rebooted and black screen
[11:42] <sniperjo_> soerenbnoergaard:  http://pastebin.com/rQ8wuXLB
[11:43] <critical_max> coz_: got AutoIT to read my bash variables :) :)
[11:43] <s1l21x1> hello all
[11:43] <critical_max> mwuahaha
[11:43] <sniperjo_> erUSUL soerenbnoergaard : i thinks almost like its trigging the while to finnish
[11:43] <soerenbnoergaard> sniperjo_: So it doesn't stay in the while-loop?
[11:44] <s1l21x1> тут русские есть?
[11:44] <feisar> Hi, guys, real desperate problem. how to I recover files from a directory which has had a symbolic link to itself copied in to it?
[11:44] <sniperjo_> soerenbnoergaard: no, hops out of it for some reason
[11:44] <zvacet> freebse:  my English is not so good to go with semantic but when you can upgrade to new release update manager tell you that
[11:44] <Pici> !ru | s1l21x1
[11:44] <sl33k_> zvacet: i cant find any green box
[11:44] <critical_max> feisar: move it out with the file manager, not the shell?
[11:44] <edbian> feisar, Open the file using nautilus and copy them out.
[11:45] <edbian> wow, a situation where the gui can do something the shell can't
[11:45] <zvacet> sl33k_:  you don't have any packages installed it is not possible what package you are looking for
[11:45] <jacklee> http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=ar0&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&q=nvidia+sony+300m+vpc+linux+blackscreen&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=
[11:45] <cba123> I'm trying to grow a mdadm raid5 array.  Found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=517282 and it's working until the last "resize2fs /dev/md0" step, I either get "kernel doesn't support online resizing" or "device busy while trying to open" and "couldn't find valid superblock" (those last two while unmounted).
[11:45] <jrib> jacklee: I think you should use Additional Drivers and troubleshoot your issues with it.  Otherwise, yes your nvidia drivers will likely break everytime you upgrade you get a new kernel
[11:45] <sl33k_> zvacet: i have downloaded some newer pre release packages. If i download the old stable packages, will it overwrite those previously installed?
[11:45] <critical_max> feisar: the ubuntu file manager works in many cases where bash chokes and dies, like files named "_" always happen to me. bash won't touch those.
[11:45] <jacklee> see all the trouble people have with these cards
[11:45] <sl33k_> s/downloaded/installed
[11:46] <feisar> edbian: I cant open the directory it no longer has a directory icon
[11:46] <zvacet> sl33k_:  how did you install newer package
[11:46] <nikita_> #ubuntu-ru
[11:46] <nikita_> как зайти на другой канал?
[11:46] <edbian> feisar, What kind of icon does it have?  What does file <folderName> think it is?
[11:47] <sl33k_> zvacet: i think from github
[11:47] <soerenbnoergaard> sniperjo_: I'm not that into bash loops, but maybe you could get it to continue even though it gets EOF.
[11:47] <zvacet> sl33k_:  debpackge?
[11:47] <jrib> jacklee: the first few hits from the google search you just posted suggest you can just place a few lines in your xorg.conf
[11:47] <sl33k_> zvacet: tar
[11:47] <jacklee> jrib i tried all that
[11:47] <zvacet> sl33k_:  so you compiled it ?
[11:48] <nikita_> how can i enter other channel exp: #ubuntu-ru???
[11:48] <sl33k_> ya
[11:48] <jacklee> tried all the xorg hacks
[11:48] <Pici> nikita_: /join #ubuntu-ru
[11:48] <v_v> nikita_: /j #ubuntu-ru
[11:48] <nikita_> pls help i am noob in IRC
[11:48] <nikita_> tnx
[11:48] <critical_max> feisar: i'm confused about how you even got to where you are at: normally "ln -s somefile somefile" fails to overwrite the original\
[11:49] <sl33k_> zvacet,
[11:49] <jrib> jacklee: well then your options are either to use a ppa with a version of the nvidia driver that works or set up dkms with your manually installed driver or install the driver yourself everytime the kernel upgrades
[11:49] <soerenbnoergaard> sniperjo_: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3628677/how-to-make-tclsh-to-ignore-eof Perhaps this could help?
[11:49] <zvacet> sl33k_:  I think if you try to install older version that you will get message that newer version is already installed if you insist to install older one newer will be probably removed
[11:49] <sl33k_> zvacet: cool
[11:50] <jacklee> jrib how do you tell which video card driver is currently installed, as i did this about 6months ago
[11:50] <feisar> edbian: ok here's what happens. Create a folder and put a file in. Right click and make a link to that. Drag the link to the desktop, call it the same name as the directory it's pointing to then drop it in the folder containing the original dir and say yes to merge
[11:50] <jrib> jacklee: don't know how to determine which version of the manually installed nvidia driver is currently installed.  Maybe run nvidia-settings
[11:50] <critical_max> feisar: ok that makes more sense. and i have never done that, so i can't help. sorry.
[11:51] <freebse> jacklee: in this case I would not upgrade the kernel, I would compile my own kernel and leave it like that, there is no need in updating kernels really, when system is running on an old one
[11:51] <jrib> freebse: except for security reasons?
[11:51] <sniperjo_> soerenbnoergaard:  so you think bash is getting confused which EOF its found ?
[11:51] <edbian> feisar, You're vague and confusing me.  Can you show me in terminal commands?  It's probably the most explicit and shortest way.
[11:51] <soerenbnoergaard> sniperjo_: Well, it seems mplayer is calling End of file on exit. Try it
[11:52] <freebse> jrib: patch 2.4.26.xx to 2.4.26.YYY, no need to install a new one
[11:52] <freebse> jrib: ok forget about it, because then you have to implement patches by hand etc
[11:53] <Petein> Hi. Is it possible to have 1 pc tower, and create 2 dump terminals which will be able to use the pc resources? (have their own keyboard, mouse, monitor)
[11:53] <jacklee> ok cool well im using nvidia driver 260.19.29.. with the kernel 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:05:01 UTC 2009 x86_64
[11:53] <jacklee> which is pretty old..
[11:54] <jrib> jacklee: what ubuntu version?
[11:54] <erUSUL> jrib: dmesg | grep -i "nvidia unix" --> NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module  *260.19.44*  Sun Feb 27 22:41:03 PST 2011
[11:54] <jrib> erUSUL: thanks
[11:54] <jacklee> squeeze/sid
[11:54] <jrib> jacklee: that's not an ubuntu version...
[11:54] <bullgard4> Does it make sense to copy the Banshee file banshee.db to another computer?
[11:55] <freebse> Patein: it is possible
[11:55] <sniperjo_> soerenbnoergaard:  export ignoreeof=1 doesnt change anything
[11:55] <edbian> bullgard4, It is mostly path names to the music files.  If you have the music files on the other computer in the same directories it would work.  The db doesn't actually save the music in it.
[11:55] <Pici> jacklee: lsb_release -a or cat /etc/issue
[11:55] <ranjan> Hi all, i have a genuine doubt.
[11:55] <soerenbnoergaard> sniperjo_: Worth a shot...
[11:55] <edbian> bullgard4, I've actually had to edit it before
[11:55] <jacklee> 9.10
[11:55] <edbian> ranjan, How genuine?
[11:55] <sunit> I am trying to create a cron job with */40 * * * *       /opt/Pentaho/data-integration/pan.sh -file='/opt/data-integration/MainTransaction.ktr' > /tmp/pan.log 2>&1 where the job will run every 40 minute
[11:56] <feisar> edbian: I can get this far with the terminal http://pastebin.com/McXS7NhP
[11:56] <sniperjo_> soerenbnoergaard : someone from the mplayer board said :  while read line; do echo "$line"; mplayer -really-quiet "$line"; done <playlist1 # that plays the first file, but skips around in it and stuff, like it's getting commands from the playlist...
[11:56] <Strabe> Hello.
[11:56] <sunit> I am correct ?
[11:56] <jacklee> thanks pici
[11:56] <jrib> jacklee: if you upgrade to 10.10 you'll likely have things "just work"
[11:56] <feisar> edbian: (Thanks for the help)
[11:56] <ranjan> edbian, we gnu/linux users are against proprietary software, and is all the artwork for free software like ubuntu done with free designing tools??!!
[11:56] <edbian> feisar, Doing my best to be helpful!  Don't thank me yet
[11:56] <bullgard4> edbian: I have the music on an USB hard drive.
[11:56] <jacklee> jrib 10.10 is what i tried to install in the first place :(
[11:56] <Strabe> Somebody may help me please? I want to edit "Places" menu, but I could not find any way
[11:56] <jrib> jacklee: and?
[11:57] <bullgard4> edbian: How did you edid banshee.db?
[11:57] <bullgard4> edbian: How did you edit banshee.db?
[11:57] <feisar> edbian: but then using the gui I copy the link from the desktop to the home folder and click merge. Can I get back the file that was inside 'test'?
[11:57] <edbian> ranjan, Oh man.  If you care that much about free software you should be using Debian.  I'm not sure about ubuntu but I'm pretty sure in Debian the answer is yes.
[11:57] <zvacet> jacklee: this is just possibility but ifyou upgrade to lucid maybe you can solve graphic problem
[11:57] <freebse> edbian: the answer is YES :)
[11:57] <Pici> ranjan: The answer is: mostly yes.
[11:57] <Strabe> Somebody help PLEASEEEEEEE?
[11:57] <hemza> I want to install Ubuntu Lucid, pcBSD 8.1 and fedora 14 on the some machine ... is it possible to use one and  the same swap for them all.
[11:58] <soerenbnoergaard> sniperjo_: I have to go now, but maybe someone on #mplayer can help you. Good luck :)
[11:58] <sniperjo_> soerenbnoergaard: thanks for the help
[11:58] <zvacet> jacklee:  karmic is supported until april ofthis teat so you will have to upgrade any way
[11:58] <scarleo> hemza: yes
[11:58] <Pici> Strabe: Open a nautilus window (your file manager) and go to bookmarks.
[11:58] <edbian> bullgard4, It's just a sqllight database.  I used some package.  I don't remember which.
[11:58] <ranjan> Pici, Mostly means !??? that means afterall proprieatry software is needed for the survival of opensource and free software isnt it?
[11:58] <bullgard4> edbian: ok. Thank you.
[11:58] <Strabe> I want to edit PLACES MENU, Someone knows, PLEASE?!!
[11:59] <ranjan> edbian, are you sure about that?
[11:59] <Pici> Strabe: I just told you.
[11:59] <hemza> scarleo, but i think i cxan not use the hibernate mode
[11:59] <jacklee> then i tried that someone installed this nvidia driver and got it working on 9.10
[11:59] <Strabe> I didn't see it Pici O.o
[11:59] <jacklee> thats why i instaleld that
[11:59] <Pici> ranjan: There are not always open source replacements for commercial software.
[11:59] <Strabe> lol
[11:59] <jacklee> trust me i would prefer to have just installed 10.10
[11:59] <Strabe> what means that
[11:59] <jrib> jacklee: ok, but why don't you just install 10.10?  What went wrong?
[11:59] <Pici> Strabe: Which part don't you understand?
[11:59] <Strabe> I just want to remove stuff and add some places
[11:59] <jacklee> jrib blackscreen
[11:59] <freebse> Pici: ya because ppl feel ok using closed source also on GNU/Linux
[12:00] <Strabe> on the menu
[12:00] <edbian> freebse, Try to get the file out of there mv /home/simon/Desktop/test/doc.txt /home/simon/Desktop/doc.txt    You said you can't open the file with nautilus?
[12:00] <Pici> Strabe: Which part don't you understand?
[12:00] <Strabe> The one that says commercial stuff
[12:00] <Pici> Strabe: Did that have your nick in front of it?
[12:00] <freebse> edbian: hm
[12:00] <Strabe> ??????
[12:00] <Pici> Strabe: again: Open a nautilus window (your file manager) and go to bookmarks.
[12:00] <scarleo> hemza: So you have them installed already? And hibernation doesn't work in Ubuntu Lucid then, right?
[12:00] <jacklee> only the default driver worked which the res was ugly then i installed the addional drivers and black screen after reboot
[12:01] <hemza> Strabe, when i creat a folder in my home it added automatically to Places Menu
[12:01] <Strabe> lol
[12:01] <feisar> edbian: mv: cannot stat `/home/simon/test/doc.txt': Too many levels of symbolic links
[12:01] <jrib> jacklee: the nvidia driver in the repositories is a higher version than the one you are using now
[12:01] <edbian> feisar, Can you open it with nautilus?
[12:01] <Strabe> On bookmarks it doesn't let me delete and doesn't show places like HDD's
[12:01] <ranjan> Pici, does that mean that we should depend on proprietary software and at the same time curse them.
[12:01] <ranjan> ?
[12:01] <jrib> jacklee: which package did you install exactly, do you remember?
[12:02] <feisar> edbian: no: The Link "test" is Broken. Move it to the Rubbish Bin? This link cannot be used, because its target "/home/simon/test/" doesn't exist.
[12:02] <jacklee> jrib tempting
[12:02] <Pici> ranjan: I think this discussion is getting off-topic for this support channel. I'd be happy to clarify myself in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:02] <jacklee> if i do the command said before.. i get back [    7.091636] NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module  260.19.29  Wed Dec  8 12:08:56 PST 2010
[12:02] <ranjan> ok
[12:02] <edbian> feisar, I think what you did when you merged was delete the folder and its contents.  Then you have a link pointing to nothing. (itself)
[12:02] <hemza> scarleo, No, not yet ... this my project, i like Linux flavors and Unix for that i want to tray them all
[12:03] <Strabe> Pici: That bookmarks option just let me add or delete 4 places of 12 showing on menu
[12:03] <Pici> Strabe: Which places is it not letting you modify?
[12:03] <feisar> edbian: oh dear, that's really bad (it's actually my brother who has probably now lost his uni work). Thanks for your time anyway. Would 'Foremost' help?
[12:04] <scarleo> hemza: How do you know you can't hibernate if you haven't installed Ubuntu yet? Or was it a general question? Hibernation will normally work, yes
[12:04] <Strabe> Pici: When I click places menu, it shows HDDs, and some folders. Actually when I click on bookmarks, hdd's are not showingfor example.
[12:04] <edbian> feisar, No idea what Foremost is.  Why did you do what you did with the symlink?  What were you trying to do?  You should look into data backup recovery.  It's hard.  I've never done it before.
[12:04] <scarleo> hemza: You should have a swap that is larger than your RAM size for hibernation
[12:04] <jacklee> i dont think i can go from 9.10 to 10.10 anyways..
[12:04] <jrib> jacklee: because?
[12:05] <jacklee> only to 10.04LTS
[12:05] <scheuri> I am not sure I am right here, but....I have a laptop that has wireless and an usb stick to get to (gsm) networks. How can I make my laptop to be an access point for others to share internet (aka android 2.2 as access point sharing its connection)? Any one a how to somewhere? Thanks a lot!
[12:05] <scheuri> hi all
[12:05] <feisar> edbian: he did it by mistake, dragged a link from the left bar in nautilus to the desktop and then dragged back to the main window by mistake instead of the links bar on the left
[12:05] <jrib> jacklee: well yes, you have to go to 10.04 before going to 10.10.  Let me check whet nvidia driver is available in 10.04
[12:05] <edbian> jacklee, Go to system -> admin -> software sources -> change the drop down from LTS releases to 'normal releases' and you will be able to.
[12:05] <guampa> how can i make make-kpkg to not add its own xxxxx-xxxxxxxx suffix to my kernel/debs after my own suffix i added with --append-to-version ?
[12:05] <Pici> Strabe: one moment
[12:07] <jrib> jacklee: on 10.04 the latest driver in the repository is older than your current one :)
[12:07] <hemza> scarleo, i know that. if you hibernate your Ubuntu session for example and the next time you choose to use pcBSD ur hibernation data in swap will destroyed... this is my idea
[12:07] <Pici> Strabe: Can you pastebin the contents of /etc/fstab   and then of    mount
[12:08] <Strabe> by doing cat?
[12:08] <jacklee> edbian, i dont have software sources
[12:08] <jacklee> jrib really maybe it could work
[12:08] <jrib> sunit: yes, that should run every 40 minutes
[12:08] <Strabe> Pici: PM'd u
[12:08] <edbian> jacklee, Software sources is a GUI that controls what repositories you're using.
[12:09] <scarleo> hemza: Ah, ok. But if you resume from hibernation you will always get back to your last session, you cant start another o when resuming from OS, you need to reboot to do that
 what do you want to do?
[12:09] <jrib> jacklee: honestly, I think 10.10 would work.  And if it doesn't well you can still just install the manual drivers and be in your current situation but on 10.10
[12:09] <terry> Strabe: cp /etc/fstab info ; mount >> info ; pastebinit info ; rm info
[12:09] <Strabe> hemza: just to edit places menu like I want
[12:09] <sunit> jrib: thanks
[12:10] <Pici> Strabe: Please use a pastebin like http://paste.ubuntu.com so that its easier to read and that others can see it.
[12:10] <Strabe> Pici: lol ok, will do.
[12:10] <hemza> Strabe, you want to add new folders or new partitions ???? it is different
[12:10] <jacklee> can i make it so i can upload from 9.10 to 10.10 from the terminal
[12:10] <Neosano> Hello. sooo.. I have ubuntu installed on my usb. I heard there are ways to decrease write to usb (some boot options or smth). How?
[12:10] <jacklee> update**
[12:10] <hemza> scarleo, you are right
[12:11] <Strabe> hemza: I just want to edit the "Places" menu. adding or deleting stuff. Like a harddisk that I dont want shown, and changing icon from a folder I've already added.
[12:11] <terry> jacklee: You mean you want to do a distribution upgrade?
[12:11] <zvacet> jacklee: you can not skip versions first you will have to upgrade to 10.04 and then 10.10
[12:11] <mroova81> kurwa
[12:11] <Pici> Strabe: I'm looking at this thread myself, it seems to describe the issue you're having: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1361478
[12:12] <jacklee> hmm i might run into 10.04 driver issues then
[12:12] <Strabe> Pici: Will look, thanks. http://pastebin.com/dfsYz0tm
[12:12] <jacklee> damn nvidia! :)
[12:12] <terry> jacklee: I doubt it.
[12:12] <dnivra> jacklee: or you could just backup all installed pacages, install 10.10 and restore all the packages?
[12:12] <terry> jacklee: Is your current system fully updated?
[12:12] <remoteCTRL1> can u pls recommend me a gui client for ssh transfers? (i.e. scp?)
[12:13] <pipepa> hello, good morning. I am having compatibility problems using openofice.org presentation. When I try to open it in windows power point the presentations made wont open
[12:13] <Pici> remoteCTRL1: filezilla?
[12:13] <terry> dnivra: I think you mean back up data
[12:13] <hemza> scarleo, thnx ... now i will install them all
[12:13] <scarleo> hemza: good luck
[12:13] <dnivra> remoteCTRL1: go to system -> places -> connect to server. you can use access via GUI-nautilus.
[12:13] <jacklee> i ran apt-get update just before
[12:13] <Neosano> pipepa just change the format when saving documents
[12:13] <pipepa> or they woudl open but no properly, some pages in blank... does anyone knows how to deal with compatibility maters between openofice presentation and windows powerpoint
[12:13] <Neosano> pipepa as far as I know openoffice uses its own format.
[12:13] <terry> remoteCTRL1: Use scp in a GUI terminal window.  (See man ssh)
[12:14] <dnivra> terry: and that too. one can backup all installed packages in ubuntu and restore it too :). just three or four commands will do :).
[12:14] <pipepa> or any other program to make presentations with beter compatibility?
[12:14] <jrib> terry: heh...
[12:14] <remoteCTRL1> Pici: filezilla can do that? interesting thanks!
[12:14] <freebse> pipepa: you can't,m say thx to Microsoft
[12:14] <terry> dnivra: How do you backup packages?
[12:14] <airtonix> scheuri: it depends on your wifi device , **very few** devices intended to be client NICs will go into master mode (the mode required to act as a proper access point), you can attempt to provide an adhoc connection but then you're limited to wep encryption
[12:14] <remoteCTRL1> terry: which was what i was trying to avoid as i have so many files in so many different folders to copy...
[12:14] <remoteCTRL1> dnivra: also very interesting, thanks!
[12:15] <freebse> pipepa: no, sorry, PPT is not a free format
[12:15] <jrib> remoteCTRL1: that's exactly when most would prefer command-line :)
[12:15] <pipepa> any suggestions of other programs in ubuntu to make presentations?
[12:15] <zvacet> !clone | terry
[12:15] <airtonix> pipepa: PDFs can be used to do presentations
[12:15] <jacklee> ok i think im going to try it :S
[12:15] <zvacet> terry:  or you can use aptoncd it ias in synaptic
[12:15] <Neosano> pipeep, http://linuxappfinder.com/office/presentations
[12:15] <terry> remoteCTRL1: You can do them all at once. Which folders?
[12:15] <airtonix> pipepa: of the static variety
[12:15] <Neosano> oops, sorry
[12:15] <Neosano> pipepa ^^^
[12:15] <pipepa> thanks airtronix
[12:16] <Strabe> Pici: Is there anyway of editing my bookmarks icons, at Places? I have different icons for my folders, and on Places it is showing as a normal folder
[12:16] <pipepa> which program would you suggest to make the presentations in pdf?
[12:16] <Neosano> pipepa http://linuxappfinder.com/office/presentations
[12:16] <jrib> pipepa: do you know latex?
[12:16] <remoteCTRL1> terry: i am copying the contents of ldap related files for documentation purposes, meaning pma.d etc involved...
[12:16] <pipepa> excelent, I dont know it
[12:16] <airtonix> pipepa: your other option is to use libreoffice impress and carry around portableapps.com version of libreoffice also
[12:16] <Pici> Strabe: That I'm not sure how to do.
[12:16] <terry> remoteCTRL1: You can create a ziped archived file and then transfer it.
[12:17] <remoteCTRL1> jrib well if you frequently need to change folders it is easier to doubleclick than to type...:)
[12:17] <dnivra> terry: or try this too http://paste.ubuntu.com/583765/.
[12:17] <remoteCTRL1> terry: well i actually did not want to include all of etc, and hand picking it brings me back to square one concerning effort...
[12:17] <dnivra> pipepa: try latex-beamer as jrib suggested. you can use one of the existing templates. it isn't very difficult to learn.
[12:18] <pipepa> excelent, thanks
[12:18] <pipepa> will look for it
[12:18] <jacklee> remoteCTRL terminal FTW
 LaTex Beamer class is an excellent presentation processor
[12:18] <dnivra> pipepa: if you are using ubuntu, i would suggest install kile and latex-beamer packages. that should be enough.
[12:18] <terry> dnivra: That's interesting.
[12:19] <remoteCTRL1> terry: Pici: jrib: dnivra: anyways thanks alot, i got what i need now:)
[12:19] <dnivra> terry: that is what I usually do. glad it was useful.
[12:19] <pipepa> good, where can I find them dnivra?
[12:19] <dnivra> terry: but i think it requires you to install dselect before running the commands. dselect used to be installed by default i think. but not any more.
[12:19] <jacklee> thanks for all your help guys
[12:19] <jacklee> byee
[12:19] <terry> remoteCTRL1: I don't think a GUI interface would make the process any faster or easier.
[12:20] <remoteCTRL1> dnivra: or if he doesnt want to install half of kde texmaker which is basically the same as kile but qt based...
[12:20] <remoteCTRL1> terry: well it does trust me;)
 Scribus is an other alternative
[12:20] <dnivra> pipepa: it's in the repositories. or you should install texmaker as remoteCTRL1 suggested. i've not used it to no opinions. could be a better choice than installing kde.
[12:21] <terry> remoteCTRL1: Well, then you could set up an ftp server on one end and use a browser to do it.  But that seems a rather clumsy alternative.
[12:21] <pipepa> thanks!!!
[12:22] <Da|Mummy> could /incompletefailing pingtest.net be because of something ubuntu/linux related, or is it for sure my internet connection
[12:22] <DemoOn> is there a good alternative to adobe flash player? Because i've many problems with it and it all mypc is slow when i am trying towatch youtube and other related things
[12:22] <psilocybe> i just created a user on my server for someone to get ssh access, how can i lock them in their home dir ?
[12:22] <scheuri> I am not sure I am right here, but....I have a laptop that has wireless and an usb stick to get to (gsm) networks. How can I make my laptop to be an access point for others to share internet (aka android 2.2 as access point sharing its connection)? Any one a how to somewhere? Thanks a lot!
[12:22] <dnivra> DemoOn: there is gnash.
[12:22] <cba123> I'm growing my mdadm raid5, following this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=517282 but I'm stuck on the "resize2fs /dev/md0" step.  Any ideas?
[12:23] <DemoOn> dnivra: ok, will give a try
[12:23] <livingdaylight> can't find usb creator in menu?
[12:23] <hemza> DemoOn, Chrome do not need flash player ... it is do fast
[12:23] <guampa> psilocybe: you can forbid them read and execute access to the parent dirs, and/or chroot them with some script
[12:23] <DemoOn> hemza: it's fast but glitchy
[12:23] <tekk> hey guys, when i try to access alsa devices within 'screen' i get permissions errors
[12:24] <tekk> any ideas on this? or how to start screen with more capabilities (i've tried with "all" capabilities)
[12:24] <remoteCTRL1> terry: nope, easiest method so far was the one sugfgested by dnivra; just go to places/connect to server, that does it for me!:)
[12:25] <v_v> DemoOn: why glitchy ?
[12:25] <pipepa> thank you all, bye
[12:25] <DemoOn> v_v: doesn't playvideos, make my pc slow
[12:25] <cr7> هاي
[12:25] <terry> remoteCTRL1: tar czvf data.tgz dir-1/ dir-1/ dir-3 ; scp data.tgz user@192.168.1.5   #What is easier than that?
[12:26] <hemza> DemoOn, what is it?
[12:26] <DemoOn> hemza: what is what?
[12:26] <elFidel> terry: adding a ":" at the end ;)
[12:26] <terry> remoteCTRL1: Well, yes, if you have a server on the other machine, but then you have to select all the data you want to transfer.
[12:27] <hemza> DemoOn, glitchy
[12:27] <DemoOn> hemza: doesn't show youtube videos, ust a black screen
[12:27] <terry> remoteCTRL1: tar czvf data.tgz dir-1/ dir-1/ dir-3 ; scp data.tgz user@192.168.1.5:     #Forgot the colon at end, thanks elFidel
[12:27] <terry> remoteCTRL1: Or tar czvf data.tgz dir-1/ dir-1/ dir-3 ; scp data.tgz user@192.168.1.5:Documents/
[12:28] <remoteCTRL1> terry: do it for 38 files located in 25 different folders, wish you much fun with forgetting nothing;)
[12:29] <hemza> DemoOn, noooo
[12:29] <neolain> hello I need help, I need to knwo hwo to set byobu to load on machine startup so it will automatically turn on my servers I have defaulted in byobu, but all the guides I keep finding are for the GUI only!
[12:29] <terry> remoteCTRL1: I don't see how some browser looking GUI window is going to help you remember all 38 files any better than using ssh in a GUI terminal
[12:30] <scheuri> scheuri: test
[12:30] <scheuri> sorry
[12:30] <neolain> does anyone eknow hwo to set apps to open at startup without a GUI? I only really need to knwo what file controls startup apps
[12:31] <neolain> cmon therea 1544 users here!
[12:31] <gnugr> neolain: check out this: https://launchpad.net/byobu
[12:31] <terry> remoteCTRL1: But if you have found a good method that you like, go for it.  I'm just trying to suggest what I believe to be the most effecient method.
[12:32] <neolain> no im not talkign about login im talkign abotu machien startup
[12:32] <hemza> i have a problem to see Right to Left flash-bashed website using Firefox
[12:32] <neolain> i already have byobu to start at login but i need it to start before that! at the machines startup!
[12:32] <cdbs> neolain: I don't think that's possible
[12:32] <iceroot> neolain: @reboot in cron
[12:32] <thauriswulfa> QUESTION: i have a huawei modem it works only for n/w operator idea and when i put another simcard it says "no service available"
[12:33] <cdbs> neolain: considering the fact that byobu needs to run as your user
[12:33] <terry> hemza: Are you  using Adobie Flashplayer?
[12:33] <neolain> hmm I see
[12:33] <terry> hemza: Are you  using Adobie Flashplayer Plugin?
[12:33] <jrib> remoteCTRL1: of course as terry says use what works but if you use a command then you have a list you can check and make sure you didn't forget anything
[12:33] <cdbs> neolain: so, if it runs after your login, its fine
[12:33] <neolain> twell how about adding my servers to startup? where is the startup file?
[12:33] <cdbs> neolain: I didn't get you. Adding servers to startup?
[12:33] <Pici> neolain: You may be able to set it up in your user's crontab to run at @reboot
[12:34] <DemoOn> terry: yes, i use adobe f p
[12:34] <neolain> yes I have a custom bash script that opens up a java based server
[12:34] <neolain> and i need it to launch at machien sstartup
[12:34] <terry> DemoOn: Does it need to be updated?
[12:34] <DemoOn> terry: don't think so
[12:34] <DemoOn> terry: i need something better, it slows everything
[12:35] <critical_max> coz_: i just succeeded in automating my installer with autoit under wine, and even got it to write out a log of the install path (which is non obvious info via other means)
[12:35] <hemza> terry,  yes
[12:36] <critical_max> coz_: i'd say it works beautifully for gui automation in ubuntu, the clincher for me was its ability to get env vars from bash > wine > autoit
[12:36] <critical_max> coz_: now to run it on the 1500 different exe and wait for it to break
[12:36] <ajin> a F-15 crashed in libya
[12:37] <llutz_> a ricebag was fallen over in china ajin
[12:37] <llutz_> !ot
[12:37] <terry> DemoOn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtH78waXoZ4
[12:38] <terry> hemza: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtH78waXoZ4
[12:38] <ajin> sorry,my fault
[12:38] <DemoOn> terry: i disabled Flash, seems everything goes better
[12:39] <terry> DemoOn: Sorry that was for hemza
[12:39] <terry> DemoOn: I spoke to the wrong nic
[12:40] <thauriswulfa> QUESTION: is there any utility to unlock gsm data card on ubuntu?
[12:41] <terry> remoteCTRL1: Once you learn how to use the tab key to auto-complete, it will be a breeze, (but maybe you already know but just fyi..)
[12:41] <NET||abuse> does ubuntu add /home/$username/bin to the path if it exists?
[12:41] <llutz_> thauriswulfa: unlock simlock or just unlocking by PIN? wvdial, network-manager for that latter
[12:42] <llutz_> NET||abuse: yes
[12:42] <thauriswulfa> llutz_ , simlock
[12:42] <thauriswulfa> llutz _ , whenever i put another simcard it shows no service available
[12:42] <jlxsolutions> hello anyone got a quick suggestion how to write grub2 on another drive then it is on?
[12:42] <llutz_> NET||abuse: grep "HOME/bin" ~/.profile
[12:42] <LiquidDemocracy> How can I install Ubuntu netbook edition so the entire OS is encrypted?
[12:43] <NET||abuse> llutz_, thanks, seems to work,,, dont' know why i expected an issue with that.
[12:43] <llutz_> thauriswulfa: ask your provider to unlock it
[12:43] <LiquidDemocracy> I have created the USB stick and started the installation. How can I full encrypt Ubuntu 10.10 on my new netbook?
[12:44] <Pupuser402-1> a tool for install a live distro on usb?
[12:44] <Pupuser402-1> a tool for install a live distro on usb?
[12:44] <bazhang> Pupuser402-1, unetbootin
[12:44] <arand> !usb | Pupuser402-1
[12:44] <Pupuser402-1> other?
[12:44] <hemza> terry, this video is howto install adobe flash player only ... same problem
[12:45] <LiquidDemocracy> I want an full encryption of Ubuntu not just an installation.
[12:45] <Pupuser402-1> but because dont work for window's distro?
[12:45] <bazhang> Pupuser402-1, windows is not a distro
[12:45] <LiquidDemocracy> Is this possible with the netbook edition or do I need the alternate CD for this?
[12:45] <bazhang> Pupuser402-1, try ##windows
[12:46] <Pupuser402-1> yes i know bau windows not intall inside
[12:46] <remoteCTRL1> terry: jrib: i like you guys! :D basically i am a sysadmin as profession and linux is our only operating system (debian and ubuntu)! so yes, i do know how to use the cli and yes i know what tab completion is, yet still you need to remember the NAME in order to use tab completion and yes for /etc/pam.d you can use wildcards like /etc/pam.d/common* but this already also affects one file that is vain for my purpose, so believe me guys, openi
[12:46] <nettezzaumana> i don't like you .. absolutely :P
[12:46] <Pupuser402-1> all user there are noob,i prefer tell here
[12:46] <jlxsolutions> hello anyone got a quick suggestion how to write grub2 on another drive then it is on?
[12:47] <bazhang> Pupuser402-1, its a windows issue. /join ##windows
[12:47] <llutz_> jlxsolutions: man grub-install
[12:47] <jlxsolutions> llutz thanks  completly forgot man duhnow i feel like a dumbazz
[12:47] <fairuz> Hi, how to search a text in some Makefile files in a directory (Makefiles in different subfolders)? Thanks
[12:48] <terry> hemza: Actually, the video I just linked to is not correct for your Ubuntu system.  You simply need to move the file to .mozilla/plugins/  #Within the home dir.
[12:48] <Sonne> fairuz, find . -name Makefile -print0 | xargs -0 grep "text"
[12:48] <llutz_> fairuz: grep -r
[12:48] <fairuz> Sonne: ty
[12:50] <Esing> hi
[12:51] <Esing> i wonder if i can make Wake on Lan working to shutdown my computer on ubuntu
[12:52] <hemza> terry, no path to ./mozilla/plugins/ (do not exist)
[12:52] <sacarlson> Esing: I never heard of wake on lan to turn things off,  you can ssh in and shutdown from remote
[12:52] <terry> Esing: What exactly are you wanting to do?  Shut down at a prescribed time?  Or remotely shut down.
[12:52] <Esing> remotely shutdown+
[12:52] <terry> hemza: Sorry, it's .mozilla/plugins/
[12:52] <llutz_> Esing: "ssh user@host sudo halt"
[12:53] <terry> hemza: ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[12:53] <hemza> terry, flash player is installed correctly, but ...
[12:53] <Esing> So I would need Remote access to the computer , with the usual magic package concept of WOL it is _not_ working?
[12:53] <llutz_> Esing: no
[12:54] <hemza> terry,  ~/.mozilla/plugins/    do not exist
[12:54] <Esing> no it is not working without remote access?
[12:54] <terry> Esing: ssh user@192.168.1.5 shutdown now
[12:54] <llutz_> Esing: things like knockd could helü
[12:54] <llutz_> help
[12:54] <terry> Esing: ssh user@192.168.1.5 halt
[12:54] <sarble> quit
[12:54] <arand> hemza: THe you will have to create it.
[12:54] <terry> Esing: ssh user@192.168.1.5 sudo shutdown now
[12:54] <Esing> SSH is to me remotecontrol aswell
[12:54] <terry> Esing: ssh user@192.168.1.5 sudo halt
[12:55] <llutz_> Esing: look at knockd then
[12:55] <jlxsolutions> hmm hmm sudo grub-install /dev/sda just hangs (lol eveyrhitng is hanging today)
[12:55] <llutz_> !info knockd
[12:56] <terry> Esing: ssh user@192.168.1.5 and then sudo halt
[12:56] <czardoz> llutz, why is there an underscore after you're nick?
[12:57] <kriume> tell me how to make a million euro and be more happy
[12:57] <llutz_> czardoz: splitted identity ;)
[12:57] <czardoz> ahh
[12:57] <hemza> arand, why , i intall it using .deb package ... it had installed correctly
[12:57] <Esing> Thanks
[12:58] <ozgurdusler> .
[12:58] <Esing> Currently I used Teamviewer to remoteaccess my laptop and also could shut down the laptop but the problem is that it frequently crashes and I lose control over the mashine.
[12:58] <rebecca> so, im getting a blank screen on a ubuntu box. i think it's because the display system is setting the refresh rate too high.. now that simply editing xorg.conf is out of the question, how can i fix this? (i have ssh access to the machine)
[12:59] <jlxsolutions> oh well it looks like i need to just copy /home/ to the back up and do a reinstall and choose the other drive for grub sigh
[12:59] <Esing> llutz, terry my worry is that when teamviewer crashed that knockd might not work either
[12:59] <llutz_> Esing: what does knockd have to do with other services?
[13:00] <llutz_> Esing: if you have a general networking problem, fix it
[13:00] <arand> hemza: Ah, in that case it will be situated in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ I think, I'm not sure what your original question was...
[13:00] <Esing> llutz_ Imagine teamviewer crashes. Would it not slow down other computer programs?
[13:00] <Esing> * or actually freeze themk
[13:00] <terry> rebecca: Are you sure /etc/X11/xorg.conf does not exist?  If so, you could just delete it and try again.  rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:00] <DOOX> hi there
[13:00] <llutz_> Esing: if so, don't use that craü
[13:00] <llutz_> crap
[13:00] <Esing> llutz_ Which program would you recommend to remote access my linux with windows 7 instead of teamviewer?
[13:00] <DOOX> i have TORCS game and i want to install it , how?
[13:01] <llutz_> Esing: ssh
[13:01] <terry> Esing: putty
[13:01] <llutz_> Esing: sry i never used vnc/nx/teamviewer and all that gui-stuff. i don't need it
[13:01] <Esing> so putty on my Linux and VNC on my windows?
[13:01] <terry> Esing: If you want VNC try tightvnc
[13:02] <sacarlson> Esing: putty is the ssh client on windows
[13:02] <llutz_> Esing: you could use putty + xming (or a different x-server for win) for X-forwarding
[13:02] <Esing> ahh I see
[13:02] <terry> Esing: putty is for MS Windows
[13:02] <jlxsolutions> as for vnc gitzo rocks  :)
[13:02] <llutz_> !info putty
[13:02] <rebecca> terry: um, yeah, seems the new system has ditched the traditional xorg.conf
[13:02] <Esing> Good. So I would use SSH as the remote client of my Linux then
[13:03] <Esing> and Putty+xming     or tightVNC on my windows
[13:03] <rebecca> so i have the joy of going from 'hey, this is easy to fix' to 'wtf, why would they do that?!'
[13:03] <cyclist_2> Hello, there! could someone explain to me why am I getting a 'bad signature' error message when I try to verify Truecrypt's signature for its latest version?
[13:03] <Frots> I heard the command `sed -i '1d' /etc/passwd` makes ubuntu LTS more secure
[13:03] <Frots> is it true?
[13:04] <jatt> no
[13:04] <sipior> Frots: find somewhere else to play.
[13:04] <llutz_> Frots: stop that nonsense
[13:04] <Frots> ??
[13:04] <Frots> I dont want to test it but I read it on irc
[13:04] <jlxsolutions> as for me i am out to sober up for my reinstall (last time i was drunk and installed  OS i ended up with a 4 os system with nothing booting and after booting fix didnt even work remotly right lol) have a nice day/night ya all
[13:04] <Frots> just asking
[13:05] <sipior> Frots: that command deletes the first line of /etc/passwd. the root account entry. bad idea.
[13:05] <Frots> hmm ok
[13:05] <Frots> im not that into sed
[13:05] <Frots> but the root account is already disabled isnt it/
[13:05] <Frots> ?
[13:05] <Frots> llutz_: why so hostile?
[13:06] <Frots> newbie bashing is not something I approve
[13:06] <LjL> Frots: that doesn't mean you'd want to ever remove its entry
[13:06] <Frots> makes sense, thanks LjL
[13:06] <sipior> Frots: the hostility follows from the assumption that you are posting destructive commands in a channel to mislead others for your own amusement.
[13:06] <Frots> assumption is the mother of all fuckups iirc
[13:06] <sanilm> Hello
[13:07] <llutz_> Frots: then better rephrase your question next time
[13:07] <sipior> Frots: nevertheless, consider refraining from posting commands you don't understand in a forum such as this.
[13:07] <Frots> not very good for the newbie image ubuntu has in my opinion
[13:07] <Frots> :S
[13:07] <sipior> Frots: i guess we'll manage.
[13:07] <Esing> hey llutz you said I should use SSH on the Linux , but in this tutorial xvnc4viewer is used (VNC)
[13:07] <Esing> http://www.techotopia.com/index.php/Remote_Access_to_the_Ubuntu_Linux_Desktop
[13:07] <Frots> sipior: why are you making this a we <-> me story?
[13:07] <Frots> as far as I can see I am also part of the community
[13:07] <sanilm> I have a problem on ubuntu
[13:08] <Frots> and not amused, sorry if I did something wrong
[13:08] <sipior> Frots: find somewhere else to play.
[13:08] <llutz_> Esing: use whatever you want. as i already told you, i don't use vnc and such, so i cannot suggest it
[13:08] <Frots> !help
[13:08] <czardoz> better go to ubuntu offtopic, Frots
[13:08] <Esing> llutz_ ah okay
[13:08] <czardoz> :)
[13:08] <llutz_> Esing: _for me_ ssh is all i need
[13:08] <sanilm> I just installed on my laptop with a built-in wlan card... I also installed drivers with ndiswrapper
[13:08] <Frots> czardoz: thanks, I didnt know there was another channel, but how do I know if something is not ontopic?
[13:08] <sanilm> but I still don't see the card
[13:08] <sanilm> what could it be?
[13:08] <Esing> terry  which GUI remote controll client would you recommend me for ubuntu?
[13:09] <czardoz> Frots, guess
[13:09] <Frots> sipior: please stop, I think you are trolling
[13:09] <Esing> llutz_ :)
[13:09] <LjL> Frots: no, you are trolling and we all know that. now go back on topic. the topic is ubuntu technical support, and only that.
[13:09] <sanilm> could anyone try to help me?
[13:09] <Frots> Im now asking in offtopic how I should learn if somethinf is ontopic
[13:10] <dnivra> hello. I require qtscript-qt. which package provides it?
[13:10] <Frots> I thought this was ontopic because it regards ubuntu
[13:10] <llutz_> Frots: read topic
[13:10] <Frots> llutz_: too long, doesnt fit on my screen
[13:10] <llutz_> +troll+
[13:10] <seppi> My theme seems to work on window borders, but it doesn't work on the gnome panel or the insides of the gnome panel. I've tried remaking my /etc/X11.conf file, and also using the "appearance settings". I'm running Ubuntu 10.10 with nvidia drivers.
[13:11] <sanilm> Can I get some help with wireless on ubuntu 10.04? I already asked the question up there :)
[13:11] <Esing> llutz_ what if I dont have a local fixed IP adresse? Would I then be not able to remotecontrol my linux? Because I use automatic IP adresse within my router network
[13:11] <rebecca_> so, anyone know how to manually set the refresh rate?
[13:11] <Pupuser402-1> mu unebootin bot work
[13:12] <llutz_> Esing: check your dns
[13:12] <ZdEnAl> hi
[13:12] <rebecca_> via CLI that is
[13:12] <llutz_> Esing: your dns-server should resolve hostnames with dhcp too
[13:12] <sanilm> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10587951
[13:12] <Fuchs> rebecca_: xrandr, if you are not using nvidia
[13:13] <Jinxed-> Is there a way to start a program when your computer boots up that is NOT crontab related?
[13:13] <Jinxed-> with root
[13:13] <Jinxed-> privliages
[13:13] <czardoz> Jinxed-, yes
[13:13] <Frots> rc.local
[13:14] <Sonne> vi /etc/rc.local
[13:14] <Jinxed-> rc.local acts the same way
[13:14] <Esing> llutz_ Perfect. So I could just enter the hostname, in my case: "PHILIPP-PC" into putty and then my dns-server resolves the name with dhcp
[13:14] <rebecca_> Fuchs: ill take a look at it
[13:14] <czardoz> SUID program, and just add it to .xinitrc
[13:14] <jjp> Jinxed: please elaborate
[13:14] <terry> Esing: You mean vnc?   If so.  x11vnc for server end and tightvnc for client.
[13:14] <wizardken> i AM THE GRAND WIZARD
[13:14] <llutz_> Esing: most routers can do so, just check its configuration
[13:14] <wizardken> here to cleanse your of your sins
[13:15] <Esing> llutz_ oki
[13:15] <arand> !ot | wizardken
[13:15] <Esing> terry My linux should be the server and my windows the client. So I would need to install x11vnc on my ubuntu :)
[13:15] <Jinxed-> jjp: I have a program that segfaults with rc.local crontab crontab -e etc but works fine in terminal after computer boots
[13:15] <Jinxed-> czardoz: what is SUID program
[13:16] <llutz_> czardoz: bad idea, keep the number of programs suid-root as low as possible
[13:16] <terry> Jinxed-: Create a scipt and  yes (as Sonne says) use /etc/rc.local if  you like.
[13:16] <terry> Esing: Yes
[13:16] <czardoz> Jinxed-, a program that runs with root privilages, but it is NOT recommended
[13:16] <czardoz> Jinxed-, for security reasons
[13:16] <Jinxed-> terry: I have tried rc.local to get it to run with rc.local but it still segfaults
[13:16] <sipior> Jinxed-: it's a program that runs with the permissions of the owner of the executable file.
[13:17] <Jinxed-> czardoz: it is from my vendor... if I could get it to run at regular privlages I would love that
[13:17] <Esing> terry Since my ubuntu is _only_ the server would it even matter if I use SSH or x11vnc?
[13:17] <terry> Esing: and have x11vnc started with the --forever switch
[13:17] <terry> Esing: That is correct.
[13:17] <Esing> Thanks
[13:17] <sacarlson> Jinxed-: maybe make a bash script that will wait till it can ping google.com before it run's your application at boot
[13:17] <czardoz> Jinxed-, you mean you just want it to run at startup?
[13:17] <Esing> Is SSH actually preinstalled on all Unix systems?
[13:17] <terry> Esing: Or, correct it wouldn't matter which you use, either will do fine.
[13:18] <Jinxed-> czardoz: correct... it is my mpeg encoder
[13:18] <Esing> !ssh
[13:18] <terry> Esing: You may not have sshd but ssh is installed by default
[13:18] <czardoz> Jinxed-, add it to your ~/.xinitrc
[13:18] <Jinxed-> sacarlson: I have waited 60 seconds which is far longer than it takes my computer with SSD to boot and still doesn't work
[13:18] <jjp> Jinxed: strace a segfaulting situation
[13:19] <terry> Esing: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[13:19] <Jinxed-> czardoz: I'm not familar with that how would I do that... that is actually something I haven't tried yet
[13:19] <Jinxed-> sacarlson: my network isn't "online"
[13:19] <sacarlson> Jinxed-: well ping your router then
[13:19] <czardoz> Jinxed-, it is just like any other bash script
[13:19] <terry> Esing: sudo apt-get install openssh-server x11vnc
[13:19] <terry> do it all at once
[13:20] <Esing> terry both commands are for x11vnc or openssh-server is necessary too when using SSH
[13:21] <Esing> s
[13:21] <Esing> +is
[13:21] <terry> Esing: openssh-server is the deamon (sshd)
[13:21] <Esing> ah okay
[13:21] <adac> ttpd
[13:22] <terry> Esing: What I gave you was a command to install openssh-server and x11vnc (to install both at once - with one command).
[13:22] <terry> Esing: sudo apt-get install openssh-server x11vnc
[13:22] <rebecca_> Fuchs: should i just be able to run xrandr to at least view current config? (not using an nvidia chip)
[13:22] <Fuchs> rebecca_: definitely
[13:23] <Fuchs> rebecca_: if you are on a VT, you might need to set the DISPLAY Variable. Keep in mind that this only changes the settings for X11,
[13:23] <Fuchs> for VTs (Terminals) you would need to set the mode as a grub command line
[13:23] <rebecca_> Fuchs: ahhhh, yeah, because im on the box via SSH
[13:24] <Fuchs> rebecca_: then you need to set the DISPLAY variable, and maybe even give the needed access via the xhost command first
[13:26] <Jinxed-> where is the xinitrc file
[13:26] <Frots> in $HOME
[13:26] <Frots> or /etc/X11
[13:27] <Frots> in home it is .xinitrc
[13:27] <Frots> for each user IIRC
[13:27] <rebecca_> Fuchs: well, the problem is that the box boots fine, fileserving and remote access are perfect, but on the graphical front, once grub loads up, the most i see on the screen is a frozen cursor on a black background. alt+ctrl+f1 doesn't work.. and i don't see any errors in the Xorg.0.log..
[13:27] <Jinxed-> Frots, does the one in $HOME execute with root privlages?
[13:27] <czardoz> Jinxed-, no
[13:27] <Frots> Jinxed-: no, as user
[13:27] <Fuchs> rebecca_: you might be interested in /var/log/Xorg.0.log  and   lspci | grep VGA
[13:28] <Jinxed-> czardoz, how will I be able to run my script with sudo rights then?
[13:28] <Frots> I think rebecca_ 's setup doesnt load the proper input drivers
[13:28] <Frots> so it doesnt see the keyboard and mouse
[13:28] <Frots> rebecca_: is the machine still reachable via network?
[13:29] <czardoz> Jinxed-, as I said, SUID programs run with root privilages whenever they are run
[13:29] <Jinxed-> czardoz, I'm sorry I don't understand what you mean
[13:29] <Frots> czardoz: what does the nosuid mount option has for effect on those?
[13:29] <rebecca_> Frots: yeah, i have SSHed to it fine. it's a server but to get mythtv configured i need a functioning X environment
[13:29] <czardoz> Jinxed-, google for step by steap instructions :)
[13:29] <Frots> and I think suid is not possible with shell scripts
[13:29] <rebecca_> Frots: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 760G [Radeon 3000]
[13:30] <Frots> rebecca_: then the problem probably lies with the input driver
[13:30] <Frots> do you have evdev installed?
[13:30] <Jinxed-> czardoz, holy cow... are you saying I could just do sudo chmod +s /my/program
[13:31] <Frots> Jinxed-: if it is a binary
[13:31] <Jinxed-> and then start my script (which calls that program) with startup applications
[13:31] <jjp> Jinxed: yes
[13:31] <Jinxed-> and I should be set?
[13:31] <Jinxed-> :)
[13:31] <Jinxed-> :0
[13:31] <Jinxed-> :)
[13:31] <FloodBot1> Jinxed-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:31] <jjp> Jinxed: or add a suitable entry to /etc/sudoers
[13:31] <czardoz> Jinxed-, yes indeed :)
[13:31] <terry> !evdev
[13:32] <terry> xserver-xorg-input-evdev - X.Org X server -- evdev input driver
[13:32] <rebecca_> Frots: if you're referring too: xserver-xorg-input-evdev, then no
[13:32] <rebecca_> Frots: should i?
[13:33] <Frots> rebecca_: yes, it detects the input devices
[13:33] <speedy> how to permentally fixthe Grub Menu to sy long numberave my boot device example /dev/sdb1 to save as root to boot the os but keeps putting a UUID# a very lonnngggg number if this # UUID is there it will not boot where can I fix this from happening not all the time just some of the time
[13:33] <Frots> or you would have to configure the xorg.conf by hand
[13:33] <rebecca_> Frots: okay, installing it now
[13:33] <terry> Jinxed-: I think what you mean is chmod +x   not +s
[13:33] <Frots> terry: no
[13:33] <rebecca_> Frots: but.. isn't a GPU an output device?... im confused hehe
[13:33] <Frots> he is trying to set the suid bit
[13:33] <Frots> rebecca_: thats why I was talking about input
[13:34] <Frots> you saw a frozen pointer, which would say the GFX is fine but the mouse isnt
[13:34] <b1lly>  /join #css
[13:34] <speedy> Uncomment if you don't want GRUB to pass "root=UUID=xxx" parameter to Linux  should i use this to not pass the UUID or and set ROOT=/dev/sdb1 correct?
[13:35] <tomov> hi. how can I install mutt without postfix? i don't use postfix.
[13:35] <terry> Frots: Oh, sorry.
[13:35] <Frots> terry: np :) I get what you mean
[13:35] <llutz_> tomov: use ssmtp/msmtp/nullmailer instead
[13:35] <terry> Jinxed-:  Disreguard what I said, I saw /my/program and thought you were trying to enable the executable bit on it.
[13:36] <tomov> llutz_: but I don't want postfix to be installed on my system.
[13:36] <Frots> you can remove it I think
[13:36] <llutz_> tomov: use ssmtp/msmtp/nullmailer instead         mutt depends on at least one MTA
[13:36] <Frots> rebecca: did it work?
[13:36] <tomov> okay
[13:36] <llutz_> tomov: apt-get install ssmtp mutt
[13:36] <speedy> UUID bug in GRUB2? how to save the menu of grub / grub2 etc .. after making changes to the grub menu to keep the settings s
[13:36] <tomov> yeah, it works. thanks!
[13:37] <tomov> hail ubuntu
[13:37] <Frots> why is mutt depended on an mta?
[13:37] <Jinxed-> Step 1: SUCESSS - I am now able to run my script at the USER level!
[13:37] <Frots> Jinxed-: congrats!
[13:37] <czardoz> Jinxed-, if you set the SUID bit, it'll run as root :)
[13:37] <jjp> Frots: because mutt usually invoke a sendmail command to send mail
[13:37] <Frots> jjp: makes sense
[13:38] <Frots> but it cant also use an external mta?
[13:38] <Frots> or does it?
[13:38] <rebecca> Frots: well, no. seemed to get a little further this time though. the loading screen was visible this time.. and the login dialog box strobed on the screen a few times briefly.. but now it's some how worse, i don't even see a cursor on the screen hehe
[13:38] <aslam> does any one know how to make a call to cisco IP phone from ekiga
[13:38] <Frots> rebecca: and what does the log outputs?
[13:38] <Frots> aslam: maybe they know in #cisco
[13:38] <jjp> Frots: any. sendmail is often only a command provided by any mta, including postfix
[13:39] <Frots> how do you know all that man
[13:39] <aslam> thanks Frots
[13:39]  * _UsUrPeR_ tips his hat
[13:39] <_UsUrPeR_> good morning all
[13:39] <aslam> #cisco
[13:39] <speedy> how to fix the Grub2 menu from the root=/big long number which is not booting when this UUID # is present needs a fix
[13:39] <juk> is there any utility to fix font, i want to add . inside a 0 in wqy
[13:40] <aslam> #cisco
[13:40] <terry> Frots: If rebecca has a [defective] /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, it should be deleted.
[13:40] <Frots> true
[13:40] <_UsUrPeR_> I accidentally added a device (/dev/sda) to a raid array instead of a device partition
[13:40] <terry> rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:40] <Frots> rebecca: please read terry's message, If you installed evdev correctly you can delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:40] <Jinxed-> side question as i look for how to add scritp to startup application: out of all the ways of starting a script at boot (crontab, crontab -e, rc.local, why would anyone use the init.d method it seems like a lot of extra work for no gain?
[13:40] <erUSUL> Frots: it just recomends. install with --no-recomends
[13:40] <terry> rebecca: rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:40] <_UsUrPeR_> now inside gparted, it shows two devices. one is /dev/sda, and the other is /dev/md127
[13:40] <Frots> because it will use magic to configure everyting
[13:40] <terry> rebecca: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:40] <[criipt]> Hi, Could some one help me get rid of this driver dumping debug info into my dmesg
[13:40] <_UsUrPeR_> /dev/md127 should not exist :/
[13:40] <Frots> erUSUL: what are you referring to?
[13:41] <Frots> mutt?
[13:41] <[criipt]> The module is.. rt3562sta
[13:41] <_UsUrPeR_> can someone tell me how to completely destroy a drive's tables?
[13:41] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:41] <[criipt]> This is the card.. Network controller: RaLink Device 3060
[13:41] <erUSUL> Frots: mutt; yes. the option is --no-install-recommends ( sorry for the typo )
[13:41] <Frots> _UsUrPeR_: with dd
[13:41] <jjp> usurper: easy, with a hammer
[13:41] <terry> _UsUrPeR_: You want to delete the master boot record?
[13:41] <Frots> if it is MBR partitions you can simply overwrite the first 512 with /dev/zero
[13:41] <Frots> if it is GPT you need more magic
[13:41] <terry> _UsUrPeR_:  Or delete the data in master boot record?
[13:42] <dnivra> erUSUL: i believe --no-recommends is longer an option in the newer versions of ubuntu. right?
[13:42] <llutz_> shorter: aptitude -R  :)
[13:42] <_UsUrPeR_> woah woah. This srive has nothing important on it yet. I was rebuilding a software RAID 1 md and accidentally added /dev/sda to /dev/md0
[13:42] <_UsUrPeR_> instead or /dev/sda1
[13:42] <_UsUrPeR_> terry / frots ^^
[13:42] <[criipt]> Similar issue.. But not reply : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1702840
[13:42] <Frots> can someone explain what is the benefit of aptidutude all together?
[13:42] <_UsUrPeR_> srive = drive :/
[13:42] <sipior> _UsUrPeR_: try "sudo mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sda"
[13:42] <jjp> ururper: use shred if you want to wipe with hi certainty
[13:43] <terry> _UsUrPeR_: Then just use fdisk and delete the partitions you want and add what ever else you need.
[13:43] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior ok
[13:43] <dnivra> erUSUL: sorry. didn't see you'd already corrected it-network's kind of slow here.
[13:43] <erUSUL> dnivra: :) np
[13:43] <_UsUrPeR_> terry: the "partition" exists ad a different device now. I have two devices on the same drive
[13:43] <_UsUrPeR_> one is /dev/md127, the other is /dev/sda
[13:43] <_UsUrPeR_> I think sipior is on the right track
[13:44] <Frots> _UsUrPeR_: correct,. first zero the superblock of mdadm
[13:44] <rebecca> Frots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/583791/
[13:45] <Frots> rebecca: that looks OK
[13:45] <Frots> still doesnt work aftewr removing xorg.conf?
[13:46] <BluesKaj> [criipt], is your connection being slowed or interrupted in any way , check the driver debug in your package manager to get the proper name for the debug app and remove it.
[13:47] <rebecca> Frots: hmmm, there is not xorg.conf in /etc/X11/
[13:47] <Frots> ok that is goodf
[13:47] <Frots> but yoiu still have no mouse movement or ctrl+alt+f1 ?
[13:47] <rebecca> Frots: but i do notice a /home/rebecca/xorg.conf.new
[13:47] <rebecca> hmmm
[13:48] <Jinxed-> Frots, czardoz Is this the correct way to have something start with startup applications: name: foo Command: sh /path/to/script.sh > /path/to/log 2>&1 Comment:foobar ? because it doesn't appear my script ran as the log file was never created?
[13:48] <Frots> wait
[13:48] <terry> rebecca: /home/rebecca/xorg.conf.new doesn't matter.
[13:48] <Frots> Jinxed-: you didnt set suid on sh did you/?
[13:48] <Frots> dont do that
[13:48] <Jinxed-> Frots, negitive... just on the program the script calls
[13:49] <terry> rebecca: What is your video card?
[13:49] <rebecca> Frots: well, i dont' see anything on the screen at all now. it's not just blank it's essentially off
[13:49] <Frots> Jinxed-: why do you prepend the 'sh' ?
[13:49] <rebecca> no signal
[13:49] <[criipt]> Blue1, Its the module rt3562sta, for my "RaLink Device 3060".
[13:49] <terry> rebecca: Oh I see, it is  Radeon 3000  Right?
[13:49] <Frots> rebecca: and what driver did you install for the VGA (output) ?
[13:50] <rebecca> Frots: it's just using whatever is default. i havn't manually specified anything
[13:50] <[criipt]> Blue1, Card words fine with it, but pauses my module radomly for a sec.. I found it dumping stuff to dmesg,.
[13:50] <[criipt]> Want to stop that !
[13:50] <Frots> I dont have a radeon card so I dont know the latest stuff
[13:50] <Frots> but I think you need the closed source driver (catalyst) toi use hardware acceleration
[13:51] <Jinxed-> Frots, my script calls the program, and if it shuts down waits 30 seconds and then calls it again etc. So it is just a wrapper on how I want to call it. However the only thing segfaulting was my the actual program binary, which is the ONLY thing I changed the SUID on. I am now able to run my script which calls the program at the user level sucessfully.
[13:51] <terry> !radeon
[13:51] <Jinxed-> Frots, and now I'm trying to get Startup applications to start my script
[13:51] <Frots> ok
[13:51] <Frots> sounds hacky
[13:51] <Jinxed-> :)
[13:51] <Akshay> Need help fixing screen resolution on Intel 82865G
[13:52] <Akshay> My xorg.conf is empty
[13:52] <Frots> Akshay: please post your kernel bootline
[13:52] <Jinxed-> Frots, the only issue is that Startup Applications doesn't seem to be running, as the log file isn't even being created
[13:52] <Frots> why dont you place it in rc.local?
[13:52] <lesshaste> when i click on a pdf document from firefox I just get a corrupted screen as it tries to render it in a window
[13:52] <_UsUrPeR_> sipiot: oh god, it does not acknowledge this as a real device
[13:52] <lesshaste> can I make it at least call acroread?
[13:52] <Akshay> Frots:Where can I find it?? Sorry I'm a noob
[13:52] <Jinxed-> ahh
[13:52] <lesshaste> corrupted or blank
[13:52] <Jinxed-> lol it says permision denied on the log file
[13:52] <Jinxed-> how is that possible?
[13:53] <Guest98316> 大家好
[13:53] <rebecca> Frots / terry : i _have_ to boot into recovery mode just to fix this?
[13:53] <_UsUrPeR_> mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sda results: mdadm: couldn't open /dev/sta for write - not zeroing
[13:53] <lesshaste> for example.. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CEoQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmath.uncc.edu%2F~ghetyei%2Fcourses%2F3166%2Fstirling.pdf&rct=j&q=%22stirling%20numbers%22%20&ei=QKmITcWHE4-DhQesorGrDw&usg=AFQjCNHj5fu3z6S74DDQc4rMd_JNVsaPSQ&sig2=VsDg3BbwpIlWzuex7VlvaQ&cad=rja
[13:53]  * rebecca liked the old xorg system a whole lot better
[13:53] <llutz_> Jinxed-: what exactly does your program do and why does it need running suid-root?
[13:53] <sipior> _UsUrPeR_: you did prefix that with sudo, did you not?
[13:53] <Frots> rebecca: you can also just boot to runlevel 3 instead of 5
[13:53] <elFidel> !cn | Guest98316
[13:53] <Akshay> Frots:Where can I find it?? Sorry I'm a noob
[13:53] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: I am running gparted boot CD. it stats as root
[13:54] <terry> Frots:  what about  dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg   and then edit it so that you have  Driver      "radeon"
[13:54] <Jinxed-> llutz a program that runs mympeg encoder
[13:54] <terry> in the device section
[13:54] <Frots> Jinxed-: first create it and then chown it to the user
[13:54] <Frots> because probably the directory doesnt have the permission correct
[13:54] <sipior> _UsUrPeR_: are you sure the device name has not changed?
[13:54] <rebecca> Frots: will that retain networking? the only way i can currently communicate with this box is via SSH
[13:54] <terry> Frots: Ubuntu doesn't use runlevels anymore... right?
[13:54] <Frots> rebecca: yes that will still start the networking
[13:54] <llutz_> Jinxed-: mpeg-encoder like mencoder? why does it need suid-root?
[13:54] <Frots> terry: yes it does
[13:54] <terry> Frots: O... ok
[13:55] <rebecca> Frots: im also talking to you on the box in question btw
[13:55] <Frots> terry: try running init 0 :D
[13:55] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: I am positive. I accidentally used mdadm to add /dev/sda to /dev/md0 . It should have been /dev/sda1
[13:55] <Jinxed-> llutz mpegencoder as in amp-ltd mpeg encoder
[13:55] <sipior> _UsUrPeR_: you made the raid device from the gparted cd?
[13:55] <_UsUrPeR_> I couldn't mdadm --remove /dev/sda /dev/md0 so I just reboot
[13:55] <erUSUL> !runlevels | Frots terry
[13:55] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: what? No. This is an ubuntu installation with software RAID 1
[13:55] <_UsUrPeR_> the array degraded
[13:55] <_UsUrPeR_> not I am afraid I somehow have bricked a HDD
[13:56] <kriume> lol
[13:56] <Akshay> Need help fixing screen resolution on Intel 82865G
[13:56] <Frots> why does ubutnu change those default stuf
[13:56] <_UsUrPeR_> because I assigned the wrong partition to a MD array, and it seems to have stuck
[13:56] <sipior> _UsUrPeR_: have you verified that the device name is the same when booted from the gparted live cd?
[13:56] <Frots> erUSUL: so how would you boot to text console from grub?
[13:56] <Frots> Akshay: you just asked that
[13:56] <sipior> _UsUrPeR_: device names are not always a constant (sadly)
[13:56] <Akshay> Frots:Where can I find it?? Sorry I'm a noob
[13:56] <Frots> please post yuour kernel bootline
[13:56] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: there is only one hard drive plugged in to the motherboard. That is good enough for me
[13:56] <Frots> in the grub.conf
[13:56] <Frots> sorry
[13:57] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: so yeah, this is the only drive plugged in, and it seems to have two devices.
[13:57] <llutz_> Jinxed-: i guess it creates a device that you need to change owner/group of, using an udev-rule
[13:57] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: /dev/md127 and /dev/sda
[13:57] <_UsUrPeR_> both can be partitioned, and /dev/md127 is taking up 14 gigs
[13:57] <_UsUrPeR_> while /dev/sda is missing 14 gigs
[13:58] <_UsUrPeR_> I can't even dd /dev/sda because it would only dd that partition, while ignoring /dev/md127
[13:58] <erUSUL> Frots: you add "text" to kernel options.- or you use recovery mode
[13:58] <Frots> erUSUL: thanks
[13:58] <Frots> noted
[13:58] <Akshay> Frots:grub.conf is empty
[13:59] <Frots> Akshay: and menu.lst ?
[13:59] <sipior> _UsUrPeR_: i assume you've verified that the device file exists in your boot environment?
[13:59] <Frots> in /boot
[13:59] <Frots> /boot/grub I mean Akshay
[13:59] <sipior> _UsUrPeR_: the "can't open for writing" error is a bit suspicious.
[13:59] <Jinxed-> llutznot sure
[13:59] <piyushmishra> hi I tried installing scim and using hindi and lost my mouse
[13:59] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: ok, wait. New developments: I am seeing something
[13:59] <llutz_> Jinxed-: you should check that
[13:59] <Frots> piyushmishra: where did you saw it the last time you used it?
[13:59] <_UsUrPeR_> mdadm -E /dev/sda shows an active sync partition to /
[13:59] <piyushmishra> can anyone help me get my mouse moving again?
[13:59] <rebecca> Frots: change the run level using telinit?
[13:59] <erUSUL> Frots: if you want to disable gdm in all boots you culd too edit /etc/init/gdm.conf and put « start on never  » instead of « start on (foo ... »
[14:00] <Akshay> Frots:Yes, I did sudo nano /boot/grub/grub.conf
[14:00] <Frots> rebecca: no just boot and add txt to your bootline
[14:00] <piyushmishra> Frots: I can still see my pointer. cant move it
[14:00] <Frots> or boot recovery
[14:00] <llutz_> Jinxed-: usual way would be to adjust group/permission to make it usable by a non-priviledged user.
[14:00] <_UsUrPeR_> however, running mdadm --remove /dev/sda /dev/md0 has error -- mdadm: /dev/sda does not appear to be an md device
[14:00] <Frots> piyushmishra: do you have evdev configured?
[14:00] <Frots> erUSUL: I dont have gdm
[14:00] <terry> Frots: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop  #Should trun off the Xserver I think.
[14:01] <rebecca> Frots: oh, what abot my options if i don't have local access to the machine?
[14:01] <erUSUL> Frots: th same aplies to kdm lxdm or any login manager
[14:01] <_UsUrPeR_> wait, I think I got it...
[14:01] <sipior> _UsUrPeR_: yes, but /dev/md127 is.
[14:01] <_UsUrPeR_> mdadm --remove /dev/md127
[14:01] <Frots> rebecca: if you dont have local access, you can edit the grub configuration so it reboots into recovery
[14:01] <_UsUrPeR_> is there something I have to do to record partition changes from mdadm after I run them?
[14:01] <terry> rebecca: Does Ctrl-Alt-F6 not work for you?
[14:01] <Frots> but if you can access it, why would you?
[14:01] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: ^^
[14:02] <Frots> terry: she has no local access
[14:02] <piyushmishra> Frots: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=150950 thats what I did last then couldnt login
[14:02] <Jinxed-> llutz the vendor included a file to put in the rules.d folder to make it runable at the user level... but it didn't work
[14:02] <sipior> _UsUrPeR_: shouldn't do, no.
[14:02] <Esing> i dont understand. in my instrcuction it says I should set the password -> vncpasswd ~/.vnc/passwd      but there is no .vnc/passwd file in ~ folder after installing x11vnc
[14:02] <llutz_> Jinxed-: make it work
[14:02] <terry> rebecca: From ssh you can turn off the Xserver  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[14:02] <Esing> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45565
[14:02] <Frots> piyushmishra: I cant access internet here, sorry
[14:02] <llutz_> Jinxed-: it's far better than running that stuff as root
[14:02] <Akshay> Frots:What do I do now, grub.conf is empty
[14:02] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: ok, nm. Something's wrong
[14:03] <_UsUrPeR_> mdadm -D /dev/md127 shows it still exists
[14:03] <piyushmishra> Frots: then i went into recoverymode and tried removing the lines from /etc/X11/Xsession.d/75custom-scim_init
[14:03] <Frots> Akshay: is menu.lst also empty?
[14:03] <terry> rebecca: sudo service gdm stop
[14:03] <erUSUL> Akshay: is grub.cfg in grub2 and anyway you are not supposed to edit that file
[14:03] <Frots> piyushmishra: I dont know anything about scim sorry
[14:03] <Frots> oh sorry grub.cfg
[14:03] <piyushmishra> Frots: its ok thanx for trying
[14:03] <Frots> erUSUL: I was not talking about editting it, just asking if he could post the kernel line
[14:03] <_UsUrPeR_> so if I mdadm --remnove /dev/md127 /dev/sda error reported is: mdam: hot remove failed for /dev/sda: Device or resource busy
[14:03] <erUSUL> Frots: ok
[14:03] <Frots> so dont even open with sudo
[14:04] <Frots> just use cat
[14:04] <Frots> or grep
[14:04] <Frots> whatever
[14:04] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior ^^
[14:04] <FloodBot1> Frots: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:04] <sipior> _UsUrPeR_: how about stopping the array, if it's running.
[14:04] <rebecca> terry: hehe: Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8)
[14:04] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: sorry, but what command is that?
[14:04] <Frots> FloodBot1: stfu :)
[14:04] <Akshay> erUSUL:grub.cfg contains lot of crap
[14:04] <sipior> _UsUrPeR_: "--stop" (or "-S")
[14:04] <rebecca> rebecca@storm:~$ sudo service gdm stop
[14:04] <rebecca> stop: Unknown instance:
[14:04] <Jinxed-> llutzI have been trying to get this to work approx 20 hours
[14:04] <Frots> Akshay: just do "grep linux /boot/grub/grub.cfg" Akshay
[14:04] <LjL> Frots: please refrain from using acronyms like "stfu"
[14:05] <terry> rebecca: yes, that is the way it should be done.
[14:05] <Frots> LjL: cut it now :)
[14:05] <Jinxed-> well more like 10 but still
[14:05] <LjL> Frots: no, you do
[14:05] <Frots> /ignore kthxbye
[14:05] <terry> rebecca: sudo service gdm start
[14:05] <LjL> !stfu > Frots    (Frots, see the private message from ubottu)
[14:05] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: interesting now...
[14:05] <LjL> !guidelines > Frots    (Frots, see the private message from ubottu)
[14:05] <terry> what does that do?
[14:05] <Frots> !guidelines >LjL
[14:05] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: after stopping the array (mdadm --stop /dev/md127) all evidence of it existing has disappeared
[14:06] <sachael> is there a way to have an animation when maximizing/restoring windows?
[14:06] <sipior> _UsUrPeR_: yep.
[14:06] <llutz_> Jinxed-: check what those rules do, check if used groups exist, if you'r member of those groups and that the permissions are set correctly (0660 most likely)
[14:06] <_UsUrPeR_> mdadm -D /dev/sda shows "does not appear to be a valid MD device"
[14:06] <LjL> !botabuse > Frots    (Frots, see the private message from ubottu)
[14:06] <Akshay> Frots:What part of output you want
[14:06] <terry> rebecca: So, gdm was not started in the first place?
[14:06] <sipior> _UsUrPeR_: zero the superblock anyway.
[14:06] <Frots> Akshay: just the linux line
[14:06] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: so is this the results intended?
[14:06] <Frots> pastebin it
[14:06] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: hmm. ok
[14:06] <Frots> so you dont get banned by tghe floodpolice
[14:06] <terry> rebecca: What exactly did you install  Ubuntu 10.04 or.... ?
[14:06] <psusi> _UsUrPeR_: usually one builds an md out of partitions, not whole disks
[14:06] <sipior> psusi: he is aware of his error :-)
[14:07] <llutz_> Jinxed-: don't forget to reload udev after changes to those rules-file
[14:07] <Akshay> Frots: You can see the ouput here
[14:07] <Akshay> http://pastie.org/1699758
[14:07] <_UsUrPeR_> psusi: yeah, it was a typo. hit enter before entering partition number :)
[14:07] <Jinxed-> llutz how do you do that
[14:07] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: ok, so I entered mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sda
[14:07] <Frots> Akshay: what for video device do you have?
[14:07] <_UsUrPeR_> no results
[14:07] <psusi> _UsUrPeR_: also you want -E not -D
[14:07] <sipior> _UsUrPeR_: good.
[14:07] <llutz_> Jinxed-: do what?
[14:07] <rebecca> terry: restarting X as you instructed _very_ briefly flashes the login prompt about 5 times then the monitor goes back to displaying 'no signal'.
[14:08] <Akshay> I have Intel 82865G
[14:08] <_UsUrPeR_> entered it again, "unrecognized md componend device - /dev/sda
[14:08] <_UsUrPeR_> so that looks like it worked...?
[14:08] <psusi> _UsUrPeR_: -D is for looking at /dev/mdX, -E is for examining an underlying disk
[14:08] <rebecca> terry: it's mythbuntu 10.10
[14:08] <Frots> _UsUrPeR_: correct
[14:08] <Frazer> hi ! what is the command to configure the clock?
[14:08] <Frots> Frazer: date
[14:08] <_UsUrPeR_> yay! :D
[14:08]  * _UsUrPeR_ reboots to see if everything came out ok
[14:08] <Frazer> Frots: to launch the graphical app to modify the hours
[14:08] <erUSUL> Akshay: that's why you are not supposed to directly edit it ;)
[14:08] <_UsUrPeR_> wow thanks guys. I hope this did the trick
[14:08] <Frots> Akshay: did you enable kernel mode setting?
[14:08] <NuB> G'day from New Zealand everyone. Installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS but no Desktop when i login? Closest answer i get from Launchpad - (does not solve my problem) - https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+question/142663  NB I do not have any ~/USRNAME/.ICEauthority file at all...Anyone able to help me?
[14:08] <_UsUrPeR_> that was infuriating :P
[14:09] <Akshay> Frots:I guess No
[14:09] <Frots> Akshay: well then I dont know, maybe LjL knows
[14:09] <terry> rebecca: Oh, ok.  Well, You need to open the /etc/default/grub file and change GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"  to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash text" and then run update-grub afterwards to update
[14:10] <Frots> terry: dont you havew to remove splash in this case?
[14:10] <terry> rebecca: When you reboot, you should be in text mode.
[14:10] <NuB> Please excuse my ignorance, but can someone please explain that ubottu message?
[14:10] <LjL> Frots: don't highlight people randomly please
[14:10] <Frots> LjL: It was not random at all :)
[14:11] <LjL> Frots: ok, don't highlight people without having a specific reason why they might know something you're asking them
[14:11] <rebecca> terry: okay, then what?
[14:11] <Frazer> hi ! what is the command to configure the clock(to launch the graphical app) ?
[14:11] <Frots> LjL: I had specific reason, you are the guy who knows a lot here
[14:11] <Frots> sorry if you dont
[14:11] <terry> Frots: I dono for sure.  Maybe. But I think either one will work.  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet text"
[14:11] <Frots> ok
[14:12] <Akshay> LjL:Having problems with screen resolution on Intel 82865G
[14:12] <terry> rebecca: When you reboot, you should be in text mode and you can work on it locally.  Change back when you want to boot GUI mode.
[14:12] <LjL> Akshay: what sort of problems
[14:13] <Frots> he cant set it correctly
[14:13] <Frots> I thought maybe kernelmodesetting problem
[14:13] <terry> rebecca: and don?t forget to run update-grub afterwards to update.
[14:13] <Frots> terry: so that is what update-grub is foer
[14:13] <Frots> did know
[14:13] <rebecca> terry: sorry. but i don't understand why this will help me.. as my objective here is to use the GUI on this box
[14:13] <terry> Frots: yep, re-writes grub to mbr
[14:14] <Frazer> hi ! what is the command to configure the clock(to launch the graphical app) ?
[14:14] <Akshay> LjL:I'm running on screen resolution 1024x768
[14:14] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: hmm. interesting. Now that I am attempting to boot with the degraded RAID drive and the drive I just zeroed out, there does not appear to be a flashing curser
[14:14] <_UsUrPeR_> err there IS a flashing curser. nothing more
[14:14] <Frots> Frazer: dont repeat yourself :)
[14:14] <Akshay> LjL:In windows I had 1152x864
[14:14] <_UsUrPeR_> it's not telling me about the degraded array or anything
[14:14] <_UsUrPeR_> it's just... sitting there
[14:14] <Frazer> so answer Frots
[14:14] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior, I am sure if I plug the other hard drive in, it will come up just fine.
[14:14] <terry> rebecca: It will only help you if you want to work on it locally.  If you are ok working on it via ssh, then don't do it.
[14:14] <LjL> Akshay: ok, i assume you've already tried just going to the Display preferences and changing it?
[14:14] <Frots> Frazer: no politeness anymore? who raised you ^^
[14:15] <Akshay> LjL:Yes, can't see 1152x864
[14:15] <Frots> terry: also with x forwarding?
[14:15] <terry> rebecca: But mythtv is a server install in the first place, right?  Is it supposed to even have a GUI?
[14:15] <Frazer> Frots: just close ur mouth plz, thx
[14:15] <Frots> Akshay: what does xrandr output?
[14:15] <Jinxed-> llutz czardoz Frots sooo close yet so far... ubuntu has gone crazy on me... it is randomly messing with me.
[14:15] <rebecca> terry: SSH is fine. im irc-ing from the server in question in a screen window :)
[14:15] <LjL> Frazer: try not to repeat your questions to quickly though, please. every 5 minutes or so should be fine.
[14:15] <Frazer> Ok LjL
[14:16] <Frots> Frazer: dont act so stupid :)
[14:16] <Kimmen> Frazer: is time-admin the program you are looking for?
[14:16] <rebecca> terry: and, the install of mythbuntu i selected included a GUI. definitely
[14:16] <Frots> oh sorry he alreadt said that
[14:16] <Akshay> Frots:What do I type in terminal
[14:16] <Frots> rebecca: I still thinjk its a driver issue
[14:16] <Jinxed-> llutz czardoz Frots. The script has decided not to work. My crontab file randomly reverted to a MUCH earlier version. My /etc/network/interfaces file has changed. Files that I deleted reappeared.
[14:16] <Frots> Akshay: xrandr
[14:17] <Frots> Jinxed-: thats really weird
[14:17] <Akshay> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 2048 x 2048
[14:17] <Frazer> Kimmen: I just want the name of the command to launch the clock config (as I could do by double-click on the clock on the bottom right)
[14:17] <Akshay> VGA1 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm
[14:17] <Akshay>    1360x768       59.8
[14:17] <Akshay>    1024x768       60.0*
[14:17] <Akshay>    800x600        60.3     56.2
[14:17] <Akshay>    848x480        60.0
[14:17] <Akshay>    640x480        59.9     59.9
[14:17] <FloodBot1> Akshay: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:17] <terry> rebecca: Well, something is defecient, not sure what it is....  If you have some other display adapter you could change it out and see what happens.
[14:17] <Frots> maybe a fresh install is a good idea Jinxed-
[14:17] <rebecca> assuming it's a driver issue can i just force it to use a generic driver?
[14:17] <rebecca> terry: don't have another adapter :/
[14:17] <terry> rebecca: you did that.
[14:17] <Jinxed-> Frots, It REALLY pains me. but I must agree with you
[14:17] <Jinxed-> :(
[14:17] <Frots> rebecca: yes, you can set it to vesa
[14:17] <Jinxed-> time to get my boot ready
[14:17] <Jinxed-> 10.04 FTW
[14:17] <FloodBot1> Jinxed-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:17] <terry> rebecca: did it work for you?
[14:17] <llutz_> Jinxed-: messing up a system always is the first result of running stuff as root for no need :)
[14:18] <Frots> Jinxed-: goodluck
[14:18] <Akshay> Frots:Here it is http://pastie.org/1699799
[14:18] <Jinxed-> llutz I had a feeling you were going to say that:/
[14:18] <rebecca> terry: no, it made it worse
[14:18] <terry> rebecca: I'm assuming this is a Video Capture Card, Right?
[14:18] <Frots> Akshay: and you want 1360x768  ?
[14:18] <llutz_> Jinxed-: just 16 yrs of experience
[14:18] <rebecca> terry: the video output is from an onboard GPU chip.
[14:18] <Frots> Akshay: just do "xrandr -output VGA1 -mode 1360x768" (without the quotes)
[14:18] <czardoz> 16 years :O
[14:18] <Akshay> No 1152x864
[14:18] <NuB> >	G'day - (AGAIN) - from New Zealand everyone. Installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS but no Desktop when i login? Closest answer i get from Launchpad - (does not solve my problem) - https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+question/142663 NB I do not have any ~/USRNAME/.ICEauthority file at all...Anyone able to help me?
[14:18] <LjL> Akshay: try doing "xrandr --addmore VGA-0 1152x864"
[14:19] <terry> rebecca: Does this box happen to have an on-board .... Oh really?
[14:19] <rebecca> terry: yes
[14:19] <Frots> LjL: it is VGA1
[14:19] <terry> rebecca: And this is not a video capture card?
[14:19] <LjL> Frots: ok
[14:19] <karlo94> why I can't upgrade firefox on 4.0 ? ..it is not in repository yet?
[14:19] <LjL> Frots: think he wanted 1152x864 though, or at least he said that's what he had in windows
[14:20] <Frots> yes correct
[14:20] <terry> rebecca: It has ONLY the onboard video card.  Right?
[14:20] <llutz_> Jinxed-: but seriously, use those udev-rules from the vendor, check them and put them into /etc/udev/rules.d , "run sudo service udev reload" and check the result
[14:20] <rebecca> terry: it has a capture card in it, as an addon card.
[14:20] <Frots> karlo94: the binary is available on google
[14:20] <rebecca> terry: yes, just onboard video.
[14:20] <melengo> lx -al
[14:20] <llutz_> Jinxed-: what to check, i already told you (groups, membership, permission)
[14:20] <melengo> ls -al
[14:20] <terry> rebecca: Have you tried plugging into the addon card to see if you have video from it?
[14:20] <Akshay> LjL:It shows me syntax for xorg
[14:21] <LjL> Akshay: what do you mean? and have you tried the one Frots gave you?
[14:21] <rebecca> terry: the addon card is just video capture, it doesn't have any video output function
[14:21] <terry> rebecca: Oh, ok....
[14:21] <rebecca> terry: it's just a digital tuner
[14:22] <Frazer> hi ! I would like to know what is the name of the command to launch the clock config (as I could do by double-click on the clock on the bottom right)
[14:22] <Akshay> LjL:Not getting anything in terminal with that
[14:22] <LjL> Frazer, i don't know, but you could try double-clicking and then dcoing "ps aux" to see what's running
[14:22] <terry> !mythtv | rebecca
[14:22] <Kimmen> Frazer: are you using KDE or Gnome or something else?
[14:22] <Frazer> Thx for the clue LjL
[14:22] <Frazer> Kimmen:  yes KDE
[14:23] <rebecca> terry: which, incidentally, i need a gui to properly configure (thanks to mythbuntu server setup not being completely cli) heh.. so.. that's kind of why im in this situation.. otherwise i would never have bothered installing a gui on a server.. madness, lol
[14:23] <trelayne> hey all, anyone know the proper way to install Firefox 4  on Ububtu?
[14:23] <v_v> trelayne: download it and extract ?
[14:23] <terry> trelayne: apt-get install firefox
[14:23] <rebecca> ubottu: yeah, already been there, and the myth guys seemed to think this was more a generic ubuntu problem rather than something specific to mythbuntu
[14:24] <terry> trelayne: http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-4.0&os=linux&lang=en-US
[14:24] <Akshay> LjL:What do I do now
[14:24] <ruan> terry: i havent recieved firefox 4 in updates.
[14:24] <trelayne> v_v, terry  So my firefox 3.6.15 will be updates automatically synaptic ?
[14:24] <boone> Hello, I am VERY new to Ubuntu - so far liking it A LOT - Looking for Games like Call of Duty & Lord of the Rings that will run on it - Any suggestions?
[14:24] <terry> ruan: I realize that now...
[14:25] <terry> trelayne: Sooner or later... prolly not today but...
[14:25] <terry> but maybe...
[14:25] <erUSUL> !wine | boone
[14:25] <trelayne> my main concern is that I'll break the synaptic configuration.. ok thanks.. for the info...
[14:25] <erUSUL> !appdb > boone
[14:25] <variable> how can I clear acls from a file if setfacl is not installed?
[14:25] <terry> trelayne: you won't break anything.
[14:26] <trelayne> terry,  cool , off to test this baby out!
[14:26] <ruan> boone: you can also search ubuntu software center for games
[14:27] <pans> hi
[14:27] <axwell999> hey im trying to install rpm forge but im getting 'rpmlib(filedigests) and (payloadIsXz) dependencies are needed
[14:27] <axwell999> any ideas?
[14:27] <variable> hi pans
[14:27] <pans> hi variable
[14:28] <rebecca> terry: so, you think perhaps forcing vesa driver might help?
[14:28] <Akshay> Frots:Could you trace the problem
[14:28] <schnuffle> axwell999: isn't rpmforge only fedora based?
[14:28] <LjL> Akshay: i don't know honestly, i'm using a very old version of Ubuntu and these things have all changed :\ i'll give you a page to try following
[14:28] <LjL> !fixres > Akshay    (Akshay, see the private message from ubottu)
[14:28] <terry> axwell999: Are you on the right channel?
[14:28] <axwell999> i'm actually on centos but i was banned from the centos channel unfortunately
[14:28] <Da|Mummy> whats this mean and how do i fix it? http://pastebin.com/G1GfZ5tq
[14:28] <terry> rebecca: You already tried that......
[14:29] <variable> axwell999: so you thought coming onto this channel might be ok ?
[14:29] <axwell999> yes
[14:29] <llutz_> axwell999: and you think a deb-based distro channel would be a good choice?
[14:29] <rebecca> terry: oh..
[14:29] <rebecca> terry: any other suggestions?
[14:29] <axwell999> i've worked it out
[14:29] <DJones> axwell999: Ubuntu doesn't use rpm's, you might be able to get help in ##linux
[14:29] <axwell999> i was trying to install the package for centos 6 not centos 5
[14:30] <variable> how can I clear acls from a file if setfacl is not installed?   I have file permissions r--r-----+
[14:30]  * Akkan off ( dev/null )
[14:30] <ryuguns> ;)
[14:30] <ryuguns> Hi
[14:30] <variable> I want to remove the ACL
[14:30] <variable> hi ryuguns
[14:30] <ryuguns> :D
[14:30] <ryuguns> variable...
[14:30] <ryuguns> Just reminded me to do my pythons :D
[14:30] <ryuguns> Thanks lol
[14:31] <terry> rebecca: You could try dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[14:31] <terry> rebecca: See:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[14:31] <axwell999> thanks for suggestion
[14:31] <axwell999> i was banned from centos like a year ago as a joke by a moderator and never unbanned
[14:31] <terry> rebecca: Try: dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg  #and reboot
[14:32] <rebecca> terry: okay. ill give that a shot, thanks again :D
[14:32] <rebecca> brb
[14:32] <variable> axwell999: /cs access #centos list
[14:32] <Akshay> LjL:xrandr: cannot find mode 1152x864
[14:32] <YouArePwned> hi, how do i mount a .squashfs file in 10.10?
[14:33] <variable> -rw-r--r--+ 1 ..... how do I clear the + ??????
[14:33] <terry> axwell999: Well, you won't find much information about centOS here.  We mostly only know stuff about Ubuntu. But good luck.
[14:33] <Da|Mummy> whats this mean and how do i fix it? http://pastebin.com/G1GfZ5tq
[14:34] <YouArePwned> Da|Mummy, use chkdsk under windows
[14:34] <joeyr> I have installed Ubuntu 10.10 on my 500Gb external using a Linux live CD. How do I make it boot?
[14:34] <variable> axwell999: ##linux might help
[14:34] <Da|Mummy> im not running windows....
[14:34] <rebecca> terry: no joy sorry
[14:34] <Akshay> Frots:xrandr: cannot find mode 1152x864
[14:35] <YouArePwned> Da|Mummy, yes, but you are trying to mount a NTFS partition
[14:35] <rebecca> terry: same behaviour.. the loading screen shows, then the login prompt flashes quickly 5 times.. then nothing.. no signal
[14:35] <terry> Da|Mummy: It suggests run chkdsk /f on Windows and reboot twice.
[14:35] <Da|Mummy> no, problem is, im trying to mount a drive that i just unplugged while it was writing to it
[14:35] <rrc> join #trac
[14:36] <Da|Mummy> why would ubuntu tell me to do anything in windows?
[14:36] <esing123> hey
[14:36] <Da|Mummy> this is kind of a flaw here...
[14:36] <terry> Da|Mummy: That was a bad idea.....
[14:36] <YouArePwned> Da|Mummy, yes, sure
[14:36] <Sonne> Da|Mummy, because you're using a windows filesystem
[14:36] <YouArePwned> you need windows
[14:36] <Da|Mummy> it wasnt meant to happen
 Da|Mummy, because you're using a windows filesystem
[14:36] <YouArePwned> u need to use windows chkdsk
[14:36] <YouArePwned> or use ext3 on your drive
[14:36] <esing123> I want to configure gdm and a tutorial refers to the file "Default" but in my gdm folder there is no default. Do they maybe mean custom.conf? Thats their insturction: sudo gedit /etc/gdm/Init/Default
[14:37] <Da|Mummy> i have a fan plugged into the same surge that the hdd is in, and when i turned off the fan, the drive shut down, but i was using it atm
[14:37] <terry> Da|Mummy: It is giving you the best advise possible.  NTFS is a MS Windows filesystem and MS Windows has tools to manage and repair it. You are liable to get it in worse shape by trying to use a Linux tool on it.
[14:37] <Da|Mummy> ok thanks i guess
[14:38] <rebecca> terry: is there  a safe mode specific for conservative graphics settings. i suspect it's trying to use a refresh rate or resolution not supported by the monitor
[14:38] <fdgpol> hi, im using Jaunty curretnly and i wanted to install texlive-extra
[14:38] <terry> Da|Mummy: And EVERYONE:  It is best to unmount any storage device before unpluggin it.  Bad things happen when you fail to umount first.
[14:38] <fdgpol> how can i do that
[14:38] <Da|Mummy> yes i know
[14:39] <Da|Mummy> but as i said, i didnt really unplug it, i turned off my fan, which is connected to same surge as external hdd
[14:39] <Jinxed-> llutz czardoz Frots. While I was downloading a clean install of ubuntu 10.04 I was able to get the thing to work! I have the program start up with screen with startup applications. I'm a little worried about how everything went all weird there for awhile.. but it seems to work (for now)
[14:39] <esing123> ahhhh
[14:39] <esing123> I dont have GDM !
[14:39] <Da|Mummy> and that killed the power to hdd for a second
[14:39] <esing123> because iam on Lubuntu 1010
[14:39] <YouArePwned> if it happened accidentally, you need to use chkdsk anyways
[14:39] <czardoz> Jinxed-, good for you :o)
[14:39] <llutz_> Jinxed-: still suid-root?
[14:39] <fdgpol> hi, im using Jaunty curretnly and i wanted to install texlive-latex-extra, what command shoul i use
[14:40] <Da|Mummy> no, what i need to do is connect this damn fan elsewhere...
[14:40] <Jinxed-> llutz yeah
[14:40] <terry> rebecca: It may be that it is not detecting proper settings for your monitor.  Are you using a KVM switch?  If so, remove it.  If not, try a different monitor.
[14:40] <llutz_> Jinxed-: still bad idea
[14:40] <uczen> hi
[14:40] <Jinxed-> llutz I had 20 min to wait while 10.04 downloaded so I tried to get the current system working.
[14:40] <YouArePwned> unsquashfs worked
[14:40] <uczen> elo
[14:40] <ubuntu> chuj
[14:40] <uczen__> siema kurwa
[14:40] <YouArePwned> but it extracted in /squashfs-root
[14:40] <uczen> elo wszyskim
[14:40] <YouArePwned> i need it to be in /
[14:40] <uczen__> siema kurwa
[14:40] <YouArePwned> any way?
[14:41] <uczen__> ale z was chuje
[14:41] <uczen> sam jestes hujem :)
[14:41] <Jinxed-> lol how do you disconnect from screen but leave it running
[14:41] <uczen__> chyba ty chuju
[14:41] <uczen> ktos ty chuju ?
[14:41] <uczen> :)
[14:41] <fdgpol> anyone could help me?
[14:41] <uczen__> nie przeklinaj
[14:42] <uczen__> noob
[14:42] <YouArePwned> is there any way to rename a mounted drive?
[14:42] <uczen> chba ty
[14:42] <uczen> chyba
[14:42] <uczen__> wpierdol?
[14:42] <terry> YouArePwned: You can rename it's mount point.
[14:42] <YouArePwned> /media/blah-blah into /media/foo ?
[14:42] <ubuntu> ( . )( . ) cycki
[14:42] <YouArePwned> terry, then can i remount it under another name?
[14:42] <fdgpol> why no one responding
[14:42] <fdgpol> :(
[14:42] <terry> YouArePwned: Well, it is being mounted by udev so maybe that is not feasable.
[14:42] <_UsUrPeR_> psusi, Frots, terry, sipior, thank you so much. I am copying partitions now :3
[14:42] <iceroot> Jinxed-: ctrl a d
[14:42] <YouArePwned> it's a ext3 partition
[14:43] <YouArePwned> i can unmount it using nautilus and mount using terminal back
[14:43] <sipior> _UsUrPeR_: glad it's working for you.
[14:43] <YouArePwned> i'll try to do it
[14:43] <terry> YouArePwned: If you create your own mount point... I dono... someone tell me if udev honors fstab entries?
[14:43] <behel1t> is there a set release date for 11.04, or can it happen anytime in april providing the release is on time
[14:43] <Jinxed-> iceroot, thank you
[14:43] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: one final question: I can't seem to add my swap partition to /dev/sda1
[14:43] <terry> I don't think so tho...
[14:43] <BluesKaj> !ask |fdgpol
[14:43] <DJones> behel1t: I think its 29th April
[14:43] <SwedeMike> behel1t: google for "ubuntu 11.04 release schedule" and find out.
[14:43] <behel1t> DJones thanks, SwedeMike thanks for attitude
[14:43] <YouArePwned> terry, idk, it's not a root partition, so i'll try just sudo mount it
[14:43] <DJones> !natty | behel1t This gives a better date
[14:43] <ario> Hi
[14:44] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: when I attempt to add the partition (mdadm --add /dev/md0 /dev/sda1) if gives me the error "mdadm: cannot get array info for /dev/md0
[14:44] <terry> YouArePwned: umount it first.
[14:44] <fdgpol> im using Jaunty ubuntu, and trying to install tex-extra package using sudo apt-get install texlive-latex-extra, However, it gives me 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 22 not upgraded.Can anyone help me
[14:44] <_UsUrPeR_> the array DOES exist, it's the swap partition
[14:44] <behel1t> ubottu ty, DJones  ty again
[14:44] <YouArePwned> terry, ok
[14:44] <rebecca> terry: yeah, you're right. a different monitor is a good idea.. i have been hesitant because this server isn't easily accessible. but i gotta bite the bullet. thanks very much for your patient help.
[14:44]  * rebecca hugs terry 
[14:45] <BluesKaj> fdgpol, that message means it's already installed
[14:45] <terry> np  tnx  ;-)
[14:45] <terry> rebecca: np  tnx  ;-)
[14:45] <fdgpol> BluesKaj: but it said 22 not upgraded
[14:45] <tga> hello
[14:45] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: ^^ ?
[14:45] <fdgpol> BluesKaj: and may i know how can i track down where is the path of texlive-latex-extra ?
[14:46] <BluesKaj> fdgpol, alt+f2 texlive-latex-extra
[14:46] <YouArePwned> terry, looks like i mounted it sudo mount /dev/sda5 /squashfs-root
[14:46] <tga> will a regular bootable USB drive also work in a Mac?
[14:46] <tga> I don't have one handy to test
[14:46] <BluesKaj> fdgpol, what is texlive-latex-extra ?
[14:46] <trelayne> (Via tidux): how to install latest FF4 on LTS: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable
[14:46] <fdgpol> BluesKaj: it is a library package for latex
[14:46] <terry> YouArePwned: Very good.
[14:46] <trelayne> sudo apt-get update, then install...
[14:47] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: also, if I run mdadm -E /dev/md0 -- "no md sperblock detected on /dev/md0
[14:47] <fdgpol> BluesKaj: i badly needed that and im trying to track the path of the package but cant find
[14:47] <iceroot> fdgpol: its a package not a binary, so use "dpkg -L texlive-latex-extra"
[14:47] <Pinpon> hi ! In Konqueror, do you know where profiles are stored?
[14:47] <YouArePwned> the problem is
[14:47] <YouArePwned> dir_scan: failed to open directory squashfs-root, because File exists
[14:47] <YouArePwned> can i bypass that?
[14:47] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: again, this is the swap partition I want mirrored on RAID1. Every other RAId partition I was able to add
[14:47] <YouArePwned> because it's a mounted dir
[14:47] <YouArePwned> i can't just delete it
[14:47] <sipior> _UsUrPeR_: you would use -E for the disk device, not the raid device.
[14:48] <SwedeMike> behel1t: my suggestion helps you in the long run, but since you see this as "attitude", I guess you don't work that way. Better to get the information without trying and learning nothing?
[14:48] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: hm. ok. Still, I can't add the disk device to the swap RAID partition. Is there a different method?
[14:48] <BluesKaj> fdgpol, check /usr/bin/
[14:48] <adalee> can someone remote into me to take care of my low disk space.  i installed ubuntu on the dell restore partition.  i want to delete the restore data, and expand the partition to the full drive.  can someone remote into me to help please...
[14:49] <sipior> _UsUrPeR_: is there a reason you're not just using --create?
[14:49] <sipior> _UsUrPeR_: this is a new array, is it not?
[14:49] <terry> Pinpon: ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/profiles/
[14:49] <Pinpon> waw
[14:49] <Pinpon> thx terry  how did u find?
[14:49] <adalee> what is it called in linux to install remote support
[14:49] <terry> Pinpon: find
[14:49] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: no, this is a degraded array. One of my hard drives failed last week, and I am just now installing a new drive and rebuilding the array
[14:50] <terry> Pinpon: find ~ -name konqueror
[14:50] <Pinpon> thx
[14:50] <terry> np
[14:50] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: So I created one md array per partition (there are a total of 7 md partitions on the RAID array)
[14:50] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: the only one that I can't re-add my disk partition to is the swap RAID partition, md0
[14:50] <ario> adalee: grdp
[14:51] <awesometown> Hi everyone, i heard installing ubuntu on a mac would brick it, is it true?
[14:51] <YouArePwned> awesometown, why? it won't
[14:51] <terry> awesometown: I'm a PC
[14:51] <ario> PC2
[14:51] <YouArePwned> you just use Bootcamp
[14:51] <awesometown> terry: i am too, but my mac is sitting there for ages
[14:52] <kikki> does anyone know a irc server from the pacific region?
[14:52] <awesometown> YouArePwned: some guy said its due to smc management with linux
[14:52] <terry> awesometown: Was an attempt at humor ;0
[14:52] <sipior> _UsUrPeR_: what does -Q tell you about /dev/sda1?
[14:52] <YouArePwned> awesometown, not really
[14:52] <awesometown> terry: lol ye i know
[14:52] <YouArePwned> bootcamp emulates BIOS
[14:52] <adalee> should i reinstall linux from scratch or is there a way to expand or combine the partition on the hard drive.
[14:52] <YouArePwned> so it will work even with freedos if you wish
[14:52] <awesometown> YouArePwned: what about native install? wipe off everything and put ubuntu?
[14:52] <sipior> _UsUrPeR_: also, pastebinning --detail for /dev/md0 would be useful.
[14:52] <terry> adalee: gparted (from liveCD)
[14:53] <awesometown> YouArePwned: because bootcamp didnt work too well when i tried, it made me use ntfs -.
[14:53] <YouArePwned> awesometown, will work, but you need tutorials to press something during boot
[14:53] <adalee> ahh gparted
[14:53] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: the results of mdadm -Q /dev/sda1 -- "/dev/sda1: is not an md array
[14:53] <sipior> _UsUrPeR_: and -Q /dev/md0?
[14:53] <_UsUrPeR_> mdadm -Q /dev/md0 -- "/dev/md0: is an md device which is not active"
[14:53] <YouArePwned> awesometown, it said you to use ntfs, good. then just run gparted and modify it to ext4
[14:53] <awesometown> YouArePwned: so i am pwned because i believed that guy who said it would brick it?
[14:53] <terry> awesometown: you may not even have to use liveCD.  (I dono for sure.)
[14:53] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: ^^
[14:53] <awesometown> terry: ye alternate worked
[14:53] <YouArePwned> awesometown, even if you fail to install
[14:54] <YouArePwned> awesometown, you will just have to reinstall OS X and it works again
[14:54] <YouArePwned> nothing will be to your mac
[14:54] <Avetec> hi how to install Java plug in in ubuntu 9.04?
[14:54] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: oh. Well that appears to be a problem :) "/dev/md0: is an md device which is not active" How do I activate it? mdadm --start /dev/md0 doesn't seem to work
[14:54] <variable> -rw-r--r--+ 1 ..... how do I clear the + if the acl package is not intalled?
[14:54] <ario> Guys, my HDD is too hot! On windows I can install SB700 Chipset drvier to solve it, but what can I do on linux?
[14:54] <terry> adalee: you may not even have to use liveCD.  (I dono for sure.)
[14:54] <awesometown> YouArePwned: thank you good sir, i think i should stop worrying lol
[14:55] <ExplodingPiglets> Are there any good free @-D flash animation programs?
[14:55] <ExplodingPiglets> *2-d
[14:55] <sipior> _UsUrPeR_: should be -A
[14:55] <YouArePwned> awesometown, you're welcome. you can visit youtube and check installing windows on mac instructions
[14:55] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: woop! GOT IT! mdadm -R /dev/md0 -- results "mdadm: started /dev/md0"
[14:55] <ario> Guys, my HDD is too hot! On windows I can install SB700 Chipset drvier to solve it, but what can I do on linux?
[14:55] <YouArePwned> because it doesn't matter what OS you put in bootcamp
[14:55] <_UsUrPeR_> mdadm --add /dev/md0 /dev/sda1 -- results "mdadm: added /dev/sda1"
[14:55] <awesometown> YouArePwned: i kinda did, then someone came and said it would break my pc due to electromagnetic issues or stuff like that, i didnt take a screenshot
[14:55] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: ^^ there we go
[14:56] <YouArePwned> awesometown, no
[14:56] <_UsUrPeR_> sipior: thanks a lot for your help. It's been a pleasure.
[14:56] <sipior> _UsUrPeR_: you probably could have saved some time reading the man page :-)
[14:56] <adalee> im in disk utility and managed to delete the 69 gig partition.  im trying to figure out how to merge the unallocated into the linux.  linux made 3 partitions.
[14:56] <ario> Guys, my HDD is too hot! On windows I can install SB700 Chipset drvier to solve it, but what can I do on linux?
[14:56] <YouArePwned> awesometown, unless you are trying to install a SPARC OS in bootcamp lol
[14:56] <sipior> _UsUrPeR_: sure thing, glad it's working.
[14:56] <YouArePwned> awesometown, someone fooled you
[14:56] <adalee> is there an autoallocate button lol
[14:56] <awesometown> YouArePwned: lol, they were still talking in mac channel (#mac) when i left
[14:56] <ario> Guys, my HDD is too hot! On windows I can install SB700 Chipset drvier to solve it, but what can I do on linux?
[14:56] <LordOllie> ario: how do you know it is too hot?
[14:57] <awesometown> YouArePwned: i personally never used that mac so i wanted to, but os x? ........................
[14:57] <YouArePwned> awesometown, seems like they don't like you putting ubuntu on your mac
[14:57] <popey> ario: hot drives aren't necessarily a bad thing
[14:57] <ario> LordOllie: sudo hddtemp /dev/sda returns 62C
[14:57] <terry> awesometown: Did you ask the same question on the #mac channel?
[14:57] <awesometown> YouArePwned: i cant be bothered with os x lol
[14:57] <popey> ario: thats not hot :)
[14:57] <LordOllie> ario: that is not a problem at all
[14:57] <YouArePwned> awesometown, i understand
[14:57] <awesometown> terry: no i did not, i asked a different one and he came up and said it would brick my mac, why you ask if i asked? lol
[14:57] <ario> 62 degrees is too hot, at least I can not touch my laptop and I can smell solders:ي
[14:57] <ario> :D
[14:58] <terry> awesometown: Just wondering what their reaction would be...
[14:58] <awesometown> YouArePwned: not to diss, but im not keen on poor GUI's for everything, nor on itunes safari and al that unremovable crap
[14:58] <BluesKaj> fdgpol, did you find texlive-latex-extra ? because I see several texlive-latex-extra packages listed in the package manager .
[14:58] <terry> awesometown: ... if you asked about installing Linux on it.
[14:58] <LordOllie> ario: I would question your sensor readings as 62C should not cause any solder stress
[14:58] <ExplodingPiglets> Are there any good free 2-D flash animation programs?
[14:58] <YouArePwned> how to copy a directory into another directory?
[14:58] <YouArePwned> sudo cp ./1 ./2 doesn't work
[14:58] <terry> awesometown: Is YellowDog still around?
[14:58] <awesometown> terry: i only asked about efi partition, he came up and said "if you do it will brick your mac due to electromagnetic isues with smc, not sure what he said tho"
[14:58] <ario> On windows with proprietary drivers installed it's 38C but on any other situation it's 62C this is not good!
[14:58] <DasEi> YouArePwned: use rsync -R
[14:58] <awesometown> terry: the distro? because as far as i know that one wasnt for macs lol
[14:59] <LordOllie> ario: laptop or desktop?
[14:59] <terry> YouArePwned: cp /dir1 /dir2  will put dir1/ inside /dir2
[14:59] <fabio333> firefox4 appmenu doesn't work...
[14:59] <adalee> im gonna whack ubuntu...  that seems easier to reallocate the drive and partitions
[14:59] <YouArePwned> terry, yeah, that's why i need something different
[14:59] <DasEi> YouArePwned: or mv -r , as cp doesn't support subdirs
[14:59] <awesometown> DasEi: i may be wrong but wasnt there a cp -r?
[15:00] <YouArePwned> DasEi, basically, i need to copy a folder, into a mounted folder
[15:00] <awesometown> just thought of it lol
[15:00] <axwell999> what does the -r do
[15:00] <terry> YouArePwned: what exactly do you want to do?  Put the contents of dir1/ inside dir2/ ?
[15:00] <sipior> awesometown: "cp -a" works a treat.
[15:00] <DasEi> awesometown: I study man
[15:00] <YouArePwned> no
[15:00] <terry> YouArePwned: Then what?
[15:00] <Gnea> DasEi: cp doesn't support copying whole subdirectories?
[15:00] <YouArePwned> contents from ./1/* to ./2/
[15:00] <awesometown> Dasei: what does that mean?
[15:00] <variable> Gnea: cp -R
[15:00] <terry> YouArePwned: cp -r /dir1 /dir2  will put dir1/ inside /dir2  and leave you with /dir1/dir2
[15:01] <YouArePwned> terry, no, that's not what i need
[15:01] <Gnea> variable: oh, I've always just used something else that the manpage outlines
[15:01] <variable> YouArePwned: what do you need?
[15:01] <BionicToothpick> Which version do I download for xeon PowerEdge T110? X3430 Xeon Processor
[15:01] <DasEi> awasometown : I was wrong, it does, cp -r
[15:01] <variable> Gnea: what does the manpage outline /
[15:01] <awesometown> DasEi: i dnt get the "i study man" no doubts that you study but what does that mean? lol
[15:01] <terry> YouArePwned: Waht do you want to accomplish?
[15:01] <Gnea> YouArePwned: do you know the difference between cp -r and cp -R?
[15:01] <YouArePwned> awesometown, 1) Install Ubuntu - Hold ALT/option when turning on your Mac, and put in the installation DVD. Double-click on "Windows". Follow the rest of the video.
[15:01] <Gnea> variable: if you read it, you'd know.
[15:01] <DasEi> awasometown : man cp (meaning above)
[15:02] <YouArePwned> terry, i need to copy contents from folder 1 into folder 2
[15:02] <YouArePwned> keeping perms
[15:02] <YouArePwned> awesometown, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL7AFDQhpHY
[15:02] <terry> YouArePwned: cp -r /dir1/* /dir2  will put dir1/ contents into dir2/
[15:02] <eyd> cp -av ?
[15:02] <YouArePwned> terry, ok, i'll try it
[15:03] <terry> YouArePwned: cp  /dir1/* /dir2  will put dir1/ contents into dir2/  #If you do not want subdirectrories.
[15:03] <awesometown> DasEi: oh i thought you were telling me that you study, i just didnt get the link to it, my bad sorry, lack of sleep
[15:03] <tga> will a regular bootable USB drive also work in a Mac?
[15:03] <YouArePwned> terry, will this keep permissions?
[15:03] <Gnea> YouArePwned: did you see my question?
[15:04] <YouArePwned> tga, yes, however you need to boot with option
[15:04] <YouArePwned> Gnea, no
[15:04] <YouArePwned> sorry
[15:04] <Gnea> YouArePwned: do you know the difference between cp -r and cp -R?
[15:04] <henningjansen_> hello everybody
[15:04] <YouArePwned> Gnea, no
[15:04] <Gnea> YouArePwned: do you know how to find out the difference?
[15:04] <v_v`> Gnea: is there any ?
[15:04] <henningjansen_> can you help me?
[15:04] <YouArePwned> Gnea, there is no difference, i just checked
[15:04] <YouArePwned> Gnea, cp --help
[15:04] <awesometown> Gnea: arent both Recursive?
[15:05] <henningjansen_> i need help
[15:05] <v_v`> henningjansen_: fire!
[15:05] <Gnea> YouArePwned: that's rather miniscule, have you read the manpage?
[15:05] <schnuffle>  -R, -r, --recursive = copy directories recursively
[15:05] <terry> Gnea: I think they are the same, right?
[15:05] <YouArePwned> schnuffle, right
[15:05] <YouArePwned> terry, thanks, it worked
[15:05] <henningjansen_> i need a internet ip, where i can upload photos for free
[15:05] <terry> -R, -r, --recursive
[15:05] <tga> YouArePwned: sweet, thanks
[15:06] <v_v`> henningjansen_: google ?
[15:06] <terry> YouArePwned: NP
[15:06] <Gnea> terry: they are
[15:06] <v_v`> henningjansen_: google photo ?
[15:06] <henningjansen_> google??
[15:06] <Gnea> YouArePwned: were you able to preserve all of the permissions?
[15:06] <YouArePwned> Gnea, seems like
[15:06] <terry> Gnea: Ok,  Very good.
[15:06] <YouArePwned> they were all 'root' anyways
[15:06] <henningjansen_> this picture have licence, or
[15:07] <Gnea> YouArePwned: aah, how about the read/write/executable bits?
[15:07] <YouArePwned> Gnea, let me check
[15:07] <coconutz> hey , how can i do alias that once ill write "his" it will do history | grep $1 ?
[15:07] <YouArePwned> Gnea, yes, chmod settings are preserved too
[15:07] <behel1t> SwedeMike i don't need to be trained by you how to use google.  i use google all the time.  this particular time I asked in here and someone was kind enough to answer.  thanks for your condescending spam though, there's not enough of that on the internet amirite
[15:08] <terry> YouArePwned: Gnea I think by default, cp will set permissions of the user that is issuing the command.  If done via sudo it will be root, if done by user, it will be user.
[15:08] <scarleo> henningjansen_: ubuntu one?
[15:08] <Gnea> YouArePwned: okay, so you didn't have any symbolic links to copy over
[15:08] <YouArePwned> terry, yes, but the thing is, GRUB2 reads root files anyway
[15:08] <YouArePwned> Gnea, i did
[15:08] <YouArePwned> i copied the whole filesystem
[15:08] <terry> YouArePwned: Right.
[15:08] <YouArePwned> to boot from GRUB2
[15:08] <henningjansen_> scarleo: yearh
[15:08] <Gnea> YouArePwned: I see, have you checked the filesizes on those links? did it preserve them?
[15:09] <Gnea> YouArePwned: or did it copy the original files over?
[15:09] <terry> YouArePwned: What were you actually doing?
[15:09] <YouArePwned> Gnea, yeah
[15:09] <YouArePwned> Gnea, so lib64 is a link to lib
[15:09] <YouArePwned> and they both are the same
[15:09] <YouArePwned> Gnea, i want to extract Xen livecd to a real partition
[15:10] <YouArePwned> Gnea, i accompilshed the task to boot a multikernel, now i'm extracting squashfs
[15:10] <Gnea> YouArePwned: gotcha, there's a way to test
[15:10] <alfanx> i searching for a detailed ubuntu manunal the explains the entire system configuration, like division of lib to lib-dev lib-common, etc, where can i find one ?
[15:10] <terry> YouArePwned: You might have needed -ar
[15:10] <AureiAnimus> can anyone tell me if a persistent USB-install would be faster than a VirtualBox install, after booting?
[15:10] <YouArePwned> terry, when cp'ing?
[15:10] <Gnea> YouArePwned: the reason I mention it is because cp -r doesn't copy symbolic links, it copies the original source and puts it in place of the new location
[15:11] <jhattara> can i restart gnome in Ubuntu without rebooting the computer ?
[15:11] <YouArePwned> Gnea, yeah, but the strange thing is, symbolic links do work
[15:11] <YouArePwned> jhattara, yeah
[15:11] <terry> Gnea: Yes, in that case you would want to use the -a option  as well as -r
[15:11] <Gnea> YouArePwned: are you familiar with the du command?
[15:11] <YouArePwned> Gnea, no
[15:11] <Gnea> terry: I would use -a in place of -r, since -a includes -r automagically
[15:11] <terry> YouArePwned: Gnea May be that -a is no longer needed.
[15:12] <YouArePwned> wait
[15:12] <YouArePwned> nono
[15:12] <Gnea> terry: are you sure?
[15:12] <YouArePwned> symbolic links link to /lib
[15:12] <terry> Gnea: Oh... I guess I got that backwards.
[15:12] <YouArePwned> not /XEN/lib
[15:12] <YouArePwned> hmm
[15:12] <Gnea> terry: okay
[15:12] <FloodBot1> YouArePwned: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:12] <YouArePwned> terry, it links to /lib, not /media/XEN/lib
[15:12] <scarleo> jhattara: you can do ctrl + alt + backspace to restart x
[15:13] <YouArePwned> terry, so i need to format and copy again
[15:13] <terry> Gnea: YouArePwned I still use -ar  just to be sure.
[15:13] <Mannequin> hi. Flash is performing slow when the movie is played windowed (inside browser), but it has good performance when on full screen.
[15:13] <YouArePwned> scarleo, no more starting from 9.10
[15:13] <Gnea> YouArePwned: think about that
[15:13] <Mannequin> not sure where to start troubleshooting
[15:13] <YouArePwned> terry, yes, i will use -ar
[15:13] <scarleo> YouArePwned: Really? Sorry then
[15:13] <YouArePwned> terry, i will do from scratch
[15:13] <Gnea> YouArePwned: you should just need to use -a
[15:13] <Gnea> YouArePwned: man cp  <-- you'll see
[15:13] <YouArePwned> ok
[15:13] <AureiAnimus> does anyone here have experience with a persisent usb ubuntu install?
[15:13] <ario> Guys, my HDD is too hot! On windows I can install SB700 Chipset drvier to solve it, but what can I do on linux?
[15:14] <YouArePwned> umm
[15:14] <YouArePwned> what means, take ownership of filesystem?
[15:14] <scarleo> YouArePwned: Guess I haven't had reason to do that in a while :)
[15:14] <Gnea> YouArePwned: the ownership of the files change
[15:14] <point> hi
[15:14] <YouArePwned> Gnea, i need it like that, so GRUB2 can boot it
[15:14] <h6w> Hey, how do I notify users after installation of a package that they need to log out to get full use of the new package?  I was thinking like the "You need to restart" bubble after upgrading the kernel...
[15:14] <YouArePwned> then i uncheck this
[15:14] <Gnea> YouArePwned: that's why I like to use -a, it preserves those
[15:15] <ario> Guys, my HDD is too hot! On windows I can install SB700 Chipset drvier to solve it, but what can I do on linux?
[15:15] <Gnea> YouArePwned: oh yeah, -a plays just fine with grub2
[15:15] <YouArePwned> Gnea, but i'm formatting the partition /dev/sda5
[15:15] <YouArePwned> Gnea, in disk utility
[15:15] <YouArePwned> Gnea, do i need to uncheck this?
[15:15] <Gnea> YouArePwned: I understand
[15:15] <terry> Gnea: YOu are correct a = dR --preserve=all
[15:15] <YouArePwned> ok, i'm not taking ownership of FS?
[15:16] <Gnea> YouArePwned: well, let it finish formatting and go from there I guess
[15:16] <terry> Gnea: So a will do same as ar   no difference.
[15:16] <ario> Guys, my HDD is too hot! On windows I can install SB700 Chipset drvier to solve it, but what can I do on linux?
[15:16] <Gnea> terry: exactly :)
[15:16] <YouArePwned> disk utility says i need either take ownership or not
[15:16] <YouArePwned> i don't know what should i choose
[15:16] <YouArePwned> i guess not
[15:17] <YouArePwned> i will not take ownership
[15:17] <AureiAnimus> does anyone here have experience with a persisent usb ubuntu install?
[15:17] <Gnea> !usb | AureiAnimus
[15:17] <Pupuser402-1> !usb | AureiAnimus
[15:17] <compdoc> ario, chipset drivers make your hdd cooler?
[15:17] <mutewit> Ok, just did a dis-upgrade to 10.04 and now everytime I restart/shutdown I get a "unmount of /dev/nbd0 failed" with a 10-second timeout.
[15:18] <ario> Guys, I have AHCI and USB power management problems on all operating systems with my SB700 laptop south bridge chip. There is only a proprietary driver for windows. What can I do for linux? It causes HDD temperature to get high up to 62C!
[15:18] <mutewit> *dist-upgrade
[15:18] <YouArePwned> $ sudo cp -ar /2/* /media/XEN
[15:18] <AureiAnimus> ah, thanks
[15:18] <compdoc> usually, a fan works
[15:18] <ario> Guys, With my SB700 laptop south bridge chip, I have AHCI and USB power management problems on all operating systems. There is only a proprietary driver for windows. What can I do for linux? It causes HDD temperature to get high up to 62C!
[15:18] <sre-su> To test one can leave  * * * * * for five out of seven fields in crontab?
[15:18] <terry> mutewit: So what is /dev/nbd0 ? Is it in fstab?  Or...?
[15:18] <mnajem> hi
[15:19] <mnajem> i would like to install gdm-themes in maverick
[15:19] <mnajem> any apt-get way
[15:19] <mnajem> ?
[15:19] <YouArePwned> and what is lost+found for?
[15:19] <Gnea> YouArePwned: why are you using -ar and not just -a?
[15:19] <scarleo> h6w: try 'wall yourtext', not exactly it but anyway
[15:19] <YouArePwned> Gnea, cause you said i need to
[15:19] <Gnea> YouArePwned: no I didn't
[15:19] <terry> mutewit: First, let me ask you this:  Did you do apt-get upgrade   first? (Or in other words, did you fist make sure the old system was fully updated?)
[15:19] <YouArePwned> Gnea, to preserve permissions then
[15:20] <YouArePwned> Gnea, ah
[15:20] <YouArePwned> Gnea, -r?
[15:20] <Gnea> YouArePwned: type this:  man cp
[15:20] <Akshay> Need to fix screen resolution on Intel 82865G
[15:20] <Gnea> YouArePwned: you can get out of it by typing q
[15:20] <Akshay> Can't find 1152x864 resolution
[15:20] <ario> Hi, With my SB700 laptop south bridge chip, I have AHCI and USB power management problems on all operating systems. There is only a proprietary driver for windows. What can I do for linux? It causes HDD temperature to get high up to 62C!
[15:20] <scarleo> h6w: sorry, it's wall [file]
[15:20] <YouArePwned> a to preserve, r for subfolders
[15:20] <coconutz> hey , how can i do alias that once ill write "his" it will do history | grep $1 ?
[15:20] <YouArePwned> Gnea, i get of it by pressing Ctrl+Z lol
[15:20] <ario> Hi, With my SB700 laptop south bridge chip, I have power management problems on all operating systems. There is only a proprietary driver for windows. What can I do for linux? It causes HDD temperature to get high up to 62C!
[15:20] <Gnea> YouArePwned: I said man cp, not cp --help, they are mutually exclusive
[15:21] <YouArePwned> i did man cp
[15:21] <YouArePwned> Gnea, i'm done anyways
[15:21] <h6w> scarleo: Thanks.  I tried `echo "Hello" | wall --` and it came back with a broadcast message to the terminal, not a bubble.
[15:21] <YouArePwned> and my grub2 is set up
[15:21] <Gnea> YouArePwned: yes, but keep reading it, there's more
[15:21] <ario> Hi, With my SB700 laptop south bridge chip, I have power management problems on all operating systems. There is only a proprietary driver for windows. What can I do for linux? It causes HDD temperature to get high up to 62C!
[15:21] <esing123> hey
[15:21] <YouArePwned> i'll try booting
[15:21] <ario> Hi, With my SB700 laptop south bridge chip, I have power management problems on all operating systems. There is only a proprietary driver for windows. What can I do for linux? It causes HDD temperature to get high up to 62C!
[15:21] <YouArePwned> Gnea, a to preserve, r for subfolders
[15:21] <Gnea> YouArePwned: -a assumes -dR
[15:21] <terry> Gnea: YouArePwned  I see that -p     same as --preserve=mode,ownership,timestamps
[15:21] <esing123> How can i see the hostname of my current linux within my lan?
[15:21] <esing123> (using wlan)
[15:21] <YouArePwned> Gnea, a to preserve, r for subfolders
[15:21] <scarleo> h6w: yep I know
[15:21] <terry> esing123: hostname
[15:22] <Gnea> YouArePwned: yes, so typing -a is the same as typing -dR --preserve=mode,ownership,timestamps
[15:22] <Gnea> YouArePwned: and since -R is the same as -r...
[15:22] <YouArePwned> Gnea, you think that i copied it wrong?
[15:22] <esing123> thx terry
[15:22] <Gnea> YouArePwned: no, I think you just made an unnecessary step
[15:22] <YouArePwned> Gnea, it didn't work btw
[15:22] <YouArePwned> Gnea, it links to /lib
[15:22] <Gnea> YouArePwned: as it should
[15:22] <YouArePwned> Gnea, maybe that's because it doesn't matter
[15:23] <YouArePwned> Gnea, GRUB2 makes it root anyway
[15:23] <YouArePwned> so ok
[15:23] <ario> Hi, With my SB700 laptop south bridge chip, I have power management problems on all operating systems. There is only a proprietary driver for windows. What can I do for linux? It causes HDD temperature to get high up to 62C!
[15:23] <Gnea> YouArePwned: exactly. by the time the environment becomes chrooted, it will link to the correct /lib
[15:23] <YouArePwned> Gnea, ok. i'm trying to boot XEN
[15:23] <YouArePwned> rebooting
[15:23] <Gnea> YouArePwned: cool
[15:24] <ExplodingPiglets> yo
[15:24] <v_v`> Girl_f: unbelievable
[15:24] <ExplodingPiglets> anybody know any good free animation programs for ubuntu?
[15:24] <Girl_f> http://erzurumoltutasi25.tr.gg/
[15:24] <ario> Hi, I have power management problems with SB700 south bridge chip on all operating systems. On windows with driver installed HDD temperature is 38C, but on any operating system without driver it's 62C. How can I solve it on ubuntu?
[15:24] <ExplodingPiglets> Preferably ones that use SWF
[15:24] <ario> Hi, I have power management problems with SB700 south bridge chip on all operating systems. On windows with driver installed HDD temperature is 38C, but on any operating system without driver it's 62C. How can I solve it on ubuntu?
[15:25] <llutz_> !repeat | ario
[15:25] <catents> Hi guys, I'm using pdftoppm to convert a PDF to images. But my all PPM are not a real copy of my PDF (some images are double page, some images have white space around the image, ...). How to fix it ?
[15:25] <terry> ExplodingPiglets: What do you mean "animation program"?
[15:25] <ExplodingPiglets> flash animation
[15:25] <ario> Hi, I have power management problems with SB700 south bridge chip on all operating systems. On windows with driver installed HDD temperature is 38C, but on any operating system without driver it's 62C. How can I solve it on ubuntu?
[15:26] <esing123> I have configured x11vnc proper on my ubuntu but when entering my hostname in VNC Viewer on my windows I get following error: Cant resolve hostname. I cant see the hostname of my linux either in my router status page
[15:26] <terry> ExplodingPiglets: TO build flash animation videos?
[15:26] <Pupuser402-1> !repeat | ario
[15:26] <ExplodingPiglets> To make simple flash animations.
[15:27] <ario> Hi, I have power management problems with SB700 south bridge chip on all operating systems. On windows with driver installed HDD temperature is 38C, but on any operating system without driver it's 62C. How can I solve it on ubuntu?
[15:27] <Pupuser402-1> !usb | AureiAnimus
[15:27] <Gnea> Pupuser402-1: stop
[15:27] <[TK]D-Fender> ario: I see you have been waiting on this for quite some time, but please refrain from repeating it every 3 minutes
[15:28] <[TK]D-Fender> ario: I even googled around ans saw your threads on it
[15:28] <terry> ExplodingPiglets: http://www.processing.org/  ?
[15:28] <ario> Hi, I have power management problems with SB700 south bridge chip on all operating systems. On windows with driver installed HDD temperature is 38C, but on any operating system without driver it's 62C. How can I solve it on ubuntu?
[15:29] <llutz_> !repeat | ario drop it
[15:29] <ario> Thanks ubottu
[15:30] <ario> I'm new to IRC
[15:30] <ario> Ok
[15:30] <ario> I will be more polite this time:D
[15:30] <terry> ario: I'm a PC  :D
[15:30] <catents> When I try to convert a pdf in image, I've white space around my image :-/ (using pdftoppm)
[15:30] <catents> Why ?
[15:30] <soreau> ario: Try explaining more about your issue. What have you tried so far that isn't working?
[15:31] <ario> I tried Windows 7, BSD and Ubuntu (My love) but the problem exists on all environments
[15:31] <ario> the only solution to solve the hot HDD problem for me is to use windows 7 and install proprietary drivers
[15:31] <ario> But I want to be able to solve this on linux
[15:32] <Akshay> Need to fix screen resolution on Intel 82865G
[15:32] <ario> I figured out I need a kernel patch to solve it
[15:32] <ibbyzj123> hell
[15:32] <ibbyzj123> hello*
[15:32] <ario> But don't know which patch
[15:32] <ibbyzj123> can someone help me?its a terminal problem
[15:32] <ario> tried powertop
[15:32] <schnuffle> !ask | ibbyzj123
[15:32] <ario> tried hdparm -B1 -S1 /dev/sda
[15:32] <ario> tried cleaning heatsinks
[15:33] <terry> ario: We want you to be able to solve it on Linux too.  But [apparently] no one here knows.  (Not right now anyway.)
[15:33] <ibbyzj123> can someone help me with a terminal error, my terminal does not start
[15:33] <ario> Do you guys know a way to search trough kernel patches available in menu config?
[15:33] <Akshay> ??
[15:33] <terry> ario: New CPU grease?
[15:33] <compdoc> hard drives should not ne reaching those kinds of temps, with or wthout proper drivers
[15:33] <ario> Yes
[15:33] <ario> New GPU grease
[15:33] <MrBushido> is there a best practice for the directory i install my own software to? e.g. non-package applications go in direct /x/y/z?
[15:34] <ario> the HDDtemperatuere is 38 with drivers on windows and 62C on any other situations
[15:34] <Dice-Man> ibbyzj123: did you try to hit ctrl+alt+t ?
[15:34] <sipior> MrBushido: yes, generally /usr/local or /opt
[15:34] <ario> so if on windows it's 38 it mustn't be because of heatsinks
[15:34] <llutz_> MrBushido: users stuff ~/opt, global stuff /opt   or /usr/local/*
[15:34] <ibbyzj123> yes
[15:34] <terry> ario: Faster fan?  (Higher CFM rating..)
[15:34] <ibbyzj123> the terminal starts,but quits immediately
[15:34] <YouArePwned> terry, I got 'Begin: waiting for root filesystem'
[15:34] <erUSUL> MrBushido: when you compile from source it goes usually to /usr/local/
[15:34] <J450N__> is there any command i can use to get my wifi connected to my router via command line using iwconfig
[15:34] <MrBushido> ok cool, thanks
[15:34] <terry> ario: Biger or faster fan?  (Higher CFM rating..)
[15:35] <erUSUL> !fhs > MrBushido
[15:35] <YouArePwned> terry, including the fact, that the kernel is being executed from that very root filesystem
[15:35] <ario> It's already 38C with proprietary drivers installed
[15:35] <ario> No need to faster fan
[15:35] <Gilos> I have a question about overhead of trying to parse out a log to create a different log using a tail-f|grep combo.  Would that add a lot of overhead to processing?
[15:35] <juk> ario: do you want to do reverse ingeening of driver?
[15:35] <esing123> How do I find out the hostname my router users in the network?
[15:35] <ario> I have no proprietary driver for linux though
[15:35] <esing123> **** uses
[15:35] <ario> Yes
[15:35] <ario> I want so
[15:35] <ario> But don't know where to start from
[15:35] <terry> ario: Oh HDD not processor... sorry was on wrong track.
[15:35] <juk> ario: that's a spirint
[15:35] <ario> I downloaded SB700 datasheet
[15:35] <ario> and register table
[15:36] <cousin_mario> Hello.
[15:36] <YouArePwned> esing123, if you have a dd-wrt on your router, you can just view it from homepage
[15:36] <iceroot> esing123: cat /etc/resolv.conf should show it at "nameserver"
[15:36] <cousin_mario> Is Firefox 4 going to be included in the official repositories anytime soon?
[15:36] <compdoc> Ive never used a driver to keep my computer cool
[15:36] <ario> It's ok terry
[15:36] <ario> :)
[15:36] <b1lly> i'm having a lot of trouble with my video settings
[15:36] <iceroot> compdoc: no, never
[15:36] <nkn> anyone know a fix for the autohide bug on gnome-panel? when its not extended and its set to autohide, sometimes it stops hideing and u gotta kill gnome-panel so it can work again
[15:37] <ario> First I need to know a way to search trough kernel patches in menuconfig
[15:37] <iceroot> compdoc: only sec-updates in the repos
[15:37] <nit-wit> cousin_mario, Natty yes
[15:37] <ibbyzj123> can someone tell me why my terminal quits immediately after starting?its an error , has anyone encountered it?
[15:37] <esing123> YouArePwned Unfortunatety it is not listed in my routers main page (already checked.)
[15:37] <cousin_mario> nit-wit: What about Maverick?
[15:37] <ario> then where is the AHCI driver in kernel source code?
[15:37] <esing123> iceroot there is only my router main page listed as the hostname
[15:37] <nit-wit> cousin_mario, it is in a ppa
[15:37] <terry> iceroot: We would assume so.... eventually.  I would guess pretty quick, but just a guess.
[15:37] <YouArePwned> esing123, are you sure you have dd-wrt?
[15:37] <iceroot> terry: as i said, never in the official repos until ubuntu 10.10
[15:37] <b1lly> during bootup, if i'm not starting up in recovery mode and launching filesafe gfx...it automatically boots cmd line and triggers the error "no screens found" everytime I try to execute "startx"
[15:37] <drc> ario: If you can't get an answer here (which I suspect will be the case)you might try in ##hardware
[15:38] <ibbyzj123> can someone tell me why my terminal quits immediately after starting?its an error , has anyone encountered it?
[15:38] <ario> Thanks DRC
[15:38] <cousin_mario> nit-wit: is there a ppa that won't just release dailies?
[15:38] <ario> I will try there too:)
[15:38] <esing123> YouArePwned ah I think not. I have the standard router Firmware
[15:38] <terry> iceroot: Oh sory.
[15:38] <sipior> ibbyzj123: how are you starting the terminal? is an error message visible?
[15:38] <esing123> YouarePwned Iam using dlink dir-825
[15:38] <nit-wit> cousin_mario, not that I know of but you can turn it on load ff4 then turn it off if you don't want the daily
[15:38] <YouArePwned> esing123, then you can't ask router. you must guess the hostname from your OS
[15:38] <ibbyzj123> i start the terminal using ctrl alt t or through desktop
[15:39] <ibbyzj123> no error message it just quits
[15:39] <cousin_mario> nit-wit: sounds like a plan
[15:39] <juk> ario: there's dumping tool i saw recently at sf, forgot what was it
[15:39] <roffe> the latest wine is 1.3.16, but I've only got 1.3.11 despite using the wine ppa
[15:39] <esing123> YouarePwned Hmm. When entering my router 192.168.0.1 from a windows PC I can see my Windows computer name but not my linux computer name (only its IP)
[15:39] <ario> dumping tool for what? kernel patches?
[15:39] <ibbyzj123> sipior:it just stops quits without an error
[15:40] <sholton> is there a secret to getting 10.04 to accept remote X clients for display?
[15:40] <juk> ario: no winblobs
[15:40] <esing123> YouArePwned how do I guess the Hostname?
[15:40] <axwell999> whats the command to unzip a file that is .tar.gz?
[15:40] <ario> WinBlobs! makes sense! I will search for that
[15:40] <ario> thanks Juk
[15:40] <llutz_> axwell999: tar xf file
[15:40] <YouArePwned> esing123, can you access your router from SSH or Telnet?
[15:41] <esing123> YouArePwned I dont know
[15:41] <YouArePwned> esing123, try it
[15:41] <YouArePwned> telnet 192.168.0.1
[15:41] <sholton> axwell999, try tar -xzf <filename>
[15:41] <WoLfLoonie> Hello everyone.. I'm noticing a weird issue after having reinstalled 10.10.. running apt-get update returns a lot of "Ign" entries..
[15:41] <WoLfLoonie> this is my sources.list -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/583829/ and this is the output -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/583830/
[15:41] <czardoz> makes no difference
[15:41] <esing123> unable to connect to remost host: connection refused
[15:42] <Guest31390> heelo
[15:42] <axwell999> ty
[15:42] <esing123> yourarepwned also: ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.1 port 22: Connection refused
[15:42] <axwell999> does tar -xvzf also work the same?
[15:42] <llutz_> axwell999: mostly
[15:43]  * randomuser is away: face scrape
[15:43] <YouArePwned> esign123: then it won't work the router way
[15:43] <YouArePwned> esing123, *
[15:43] <sholton> axwell999, yes, but also lists the files.
[15:43] <sipior> ibbyzj123: might be worth heading to the console. try "ctrl-alt-F1" (you can type "alt-F7" to get back), and then try logging in.
[15:43] <schnuffle> axwell999: the -v means verbose ( show more details)
[15:43] <juk> ario: good luck, son
[15:43] <esing123> YouArePwned so I wont be able to use hostname for remote access?
[15:43] <ario> Bye
[15:43] <ario> for now;)
[15:44] <YouArePwned> esing123, try to ping your PC from another PC in network
[15:44] <YouArePwned> ping <hostname>
[15:44] <YouArePwned> to check if it work
[15:44] <YouArePwned> s
[15:44] <FloodBot1> YouArePwned: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:44] <knoxy> Hi. I've a HP DL120 with Smart Array B110i. I create RAID 1+0 with 4 HD's and Ubuntu installer cannot detect this logical volume. How can I do to fix it? I'm trying with Ubuntu Server 10.10 amd64
[15:46] <YouArePwned> yet another boot to try if xen works
[15:46] <erUSUL> knoxy: ask in #ubuntu-server? maybe you have to manually load the correct driver prior to instalation?
[15:46] <esing123> Youarepwned core-Thinkpad-T43 does not work
[15:46] <esing123> Youarepwned only entering the IP directly works
[15:46] <knoxy> erUSUL: I only found drivers to redhat and suse in HP website
[15:47] <loevborg> Weird problem: I just restarted the computer, and now it doesn't properly recognize my LCD monitor's resolution any more.
[15:47] <loevborg> I'm sure I didn't change anything - no updates - since this morning, when everything worked.
[15:48] <el_seano> loevborg: are you on a KVM?
[15:48] <concon> Did you install any updates since the last reboot?
[15:48] <llutz_> esing123: try editing /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and make sure "send host-name <hostname> ;" is active, and remove "host-name" from the list following "request"
[15:48] <ua> hello eveybody
[15:48] <Cabrobra>  Hi everybody! I have this problem on my laptop.. Ubuntu 10.04..
[15:48] <Cabrobra>  BusyBox v1.13.3 (Ubuntu 1:1.13.3-1ubuntu11) built-in shell (ash) ....... Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.......  (initramfs)
[15:49] <ua> need help
[15:49] <Cabrobra> it doesn´t start
[15:49] <loevborg> el_seano, no, nothing like that. Just a plain VGA cable.
[15:49] <CCarbon> #java
[15:49] <erUSUL> knoxy: the driver may be included in the media but not automatically loaded. i think that those hp smart arrays use cciss
[15:49] <cousin_mario> bbl
[15:49] <ua> i had problem with my virtualbox
[15:50] <iceroot> ua: #vbox
[15:50] <nit-wit> ua, whats the problem, tis is a ubuntu channel
[15:50] <el_seano> loevborg: Hm, not sure what would cause it then, but to fix try going to System->Preferences->Resolution and detecting the monitor.
[15:50] <mansini> hi all
[15:50] <knoxy> erUSUL: yes. I've HP DL380 too and ubuntu is running normally... but the RAID controller is another model... in DL120 G6 ubuntu cant detect the raid controller b110i...
[15:50] <ua> virtualbox doesn't work s doesn't know why, something missed..??
[15:50] <esing123>  llutz_ send host-name <hostname> is active and I removed host-name from the request list
[15:50] <esing123> llutz_ what now?
[15:51] <llutz_> esing123: sudo dhclient ethX
[15:51] <el_seano> loevborg: Additionally, check out the manufacturer website to see if there are any drivers or forums where other folks have had similar issues
[15:51] <esing123> ok done llutz_
[15:51] <j3d3> loevborg: did you recently plug into a second monitor?
[15:51] <llutz_> esing123: check to ping the host by hostname again
[15:51] <knoxy> erUSUL: and for me its a big problem :/
[15:51] <loevborg> el_seano, I just re-connected a vga cable, and it seems to recognize the resolution now
[15:51] <esing123> llutz_ still not works when pingin core-Thinkpad-T43
[15:52] <loevborg> I wouldn't have guessed that it's possible for the cable to function, except for detecting the resolution
[15:52] <loevborg> j3d3, no but perhpas the cable was loosened
[15:52] <h6w> ua: virtualbox is a virtual machine emulator.  You install an operating system to a pretend hard disk.  This app is part of Ubuntu, but it has it's own channel at #vbox
[15:52] <ua> I Know i am in ubuntu channel, my virtualbox run in ubuntu
[15:52] <llutz_> esing123: no luck, was just a guess.
[15:52] <j3d3> loevborg: This does your MB use intel integrated graphics?
[15:53] <loevborg> j3d3, it does
[15:53] <loevborg> j3d3, why?
[15:53] <esing123> llutz_ should I do the steps backwards?
[15:53] <j3d3> thats a bigger problem that you think
[15:53] <llutz_> esing123: yes, revert those settings. does your router offer "static dhcp" (dhcp with very long lease-times) where you could set a hostname?
[15:53] <loevborg> It works now :)
thank you, i tested make system update , it didn't work , have you got any idea?
[15:54] <Pupuser402-1> !repeat | ario
[15:55] <esing123> llutz_ Iam not sure sec
[15:55] <el_seano> oh yeah, loevborg, open a terminal and run this command:  lspci | grep 82845
[15:55] <h6w> ua: No, this is a general Ubuntu channel.  For people who know about virtualbox, please go to the #vbox channel
[15:55] <j3d3> loevborg: just from my view. do not plug in any monitor cables while powered on. This can be an issue with your chipset. I dealt with it myself
[15:55] <el_seano> that's an old intel chipset that doesn't like to play nice with ubuntu and hardware acceleration
[15:55] <loevborg> j3d3, yes I think that's good advice
[15:55] <loevborg> j3d3, but no problem, I can reboot :)
[15:56] <Pupuser402-1> i
[15:56] <el_seano> can cause a number of issues
[15:56] <loevborg> el_seano, not that chipset, no; but you led me to the problem (the cable being disconnected)
[15:56] <loevborg> thanks!
[15:57] <dan-mytt> Hi anyone got any experience with skype webcams! My webcam is viewable in the skype test, but not viewable when making a call! the other person can't see my cam!
[15:58] <OdinOverland> sorry - don't use Skype
[15:58] <medfly> when updating packages, two of my restricted drivers stopped working... fglrx failed (removed it), and so did the broadcom wireless driver (I think), I think the update was a kernel upgrade which may have failed
[15:58] <medfly> how do I tell
[15:58] <MindSpark> hello, I've read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS and although I have created a public/private key pair and am able to login using ssh an sftp without passwd, when I do mount -a I am asked for a password, can anyone tell me what the problem is ?
[15:59] <j3d3> @medfly what makes you think your wireless driver went down
[16:00] <dan-mytt> Hi anyone got any experience with skype webcams! My webcam is viewable in the skype test, but not viewable when making a call! the other person can't see my cam!
[16:00] <jfe> hi all.
[16:00] <loevborg> MindSpark, can you mount the share using the command line command "sshfs"?
[16:00] <esing123> llutz_ nvm I will just connect through my IP
[16:00] <MindSpark> loevborg, yes
[16:00] <jfe> is there a better place than the gnome website to find gnome themes? the ones on the gnome website are pretty lame :/
[16:00] <DJones> !themes | jfe
[16:00] <loevborg> MindSpark, without being asked for a password, I  mean?
[16:00] <jrib> MindSpark: I don't believe you when you say you do "mount -a" :)
[16:00] <medfly> j3d3: well I don't see any wireless networks... the router is next to my computer
[16:00] <gabriel_> #sangoma
[16:01] <MindSpark> jrib, wtf ? lol
[16:01] <llutz_> esing123: you'd use a more advanced router, using 3rd-party firmware like tomato, dd-wrt, openwrt ;)
[16:01] <jrib> MindSpark: you're using sudo or doing it as root?
[16:01] <j3d3> @medfly have you tried sudo ifup
[16:01] <medfly> j3d3: I don't think it shows up on dmesg but maybe I missed it
[16:01]  * randomuser is away: dog
[16:01] <vineetha> upgradtion to 11.04 is causes system freezing . Is there any reamady for this ?
[16:01] <jrib> !away > randomuser
[16:01] <erUSUL> knoxy: from what i gather b110i is a renamed ich10 from intel... not trully hardware raid. it looks like linux support is lacking an many use linux software raid instead
[16:01] <MindSpark> damn connection
[16:02] <c0d3r_C_c0d3r> hey people
[16:02] <esing123> llutz_ ^^
[16:02] <MindSpark> jrib, yes, I am using sudo. Oh ! it reads keys from the root config !
[16:02] <j3d3> @medfly that or downgrade and reupdate. Those drives are supported
[16:02] <randomuser> jrib, ironically, i set my away message as suggested
[16:02] <jrib> randomuser: tell your client not to announce it publicly please
[16:02] <loevborg> MindSpark, the howto you linked to doesn't mention automounting via fstab, does it?
[16:02] <jrib> MindSpark: yes, but I think the page you linked provides syntax: sshfs#$USER@far:/projects /home/$USER/far_projects fuse defaults,idmap=user 0 0
[16:03] <knoxy> erUSUL: B110i is a onboard raid controller..
[16:03] <MindSpark> loevborg, not automounting, just adding to fstab
[16:03] <Laurenceb_> how do i create a multi session dvd-r  ?
[16:03] <randomuser> jrib, i'm mostly here for entertainment, i can just leave.
[16:03] <MindSpark> jrib, the syntax works, but I think it's due to sudo
[16:03] <loevborg> MindSpark, why put it in fstab if you don't want to have it mounted automatically?
[16:03] <knoxy> erUSUL: you know how to use the b110i raid in ubuntu?
[16:03] <jrib> MindSpark: that's for fstab
[16:03] <medfly> j3d3: ok... thanks
[16:03] <MindSpark> loevborg, I do want it to be mounted automatically
[16:04] <c0d3r_C_c0d3r> can i ask a question please?
[16:04] <dp_> is there a way to have screen start multiple programs, in detached mode?
[16:04] <jlink005> Don't ask if you can ask, just ask
[16:04] <dp_> or even add another program to an existing detached screen?
[16:04] <MindSpark> but I wouldn't know how to force fuse to read the keys from my home dir instead of roots
[16:04] <dan-mytt> Hi anyone got any experience with skype webcams! My webcam is viewable in the skype test, but not viewable when making a call! the other person can't see my cam!
[16:04] <b1lly> does anyone have a solution to this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-16
[16:04] <c0d3r_C_c0d3r> is there any good hacking resources ?
[16:05] <erUSUL> knoxy: yah similar to the ones in desktop motherboards ... as i said i dunno how to use it in ubuntu. but you can disable raid in bios and use linux software raid instead
[16:05] <drc> c0d3r_C_c0d3r: try the NSA Field Manual
[16:05] <MindSpark> there's a config file option, but I am not sure if this will suffice, I will give it a try
[16:05] <jlink005> @coder: Hacking can be definied in a few ways. What are you trying to accomplish?
[16:05] <janesy> ........
[16:05] <c0d3r_C_c0d3r> NSA
[16:05] <c0d3r_C_c0d3r> ?
[16:05] <jlink005> *defined
[16:05] <MindSpark> lol
[16:05] <c0d3r_C_c0d3r> i want to learn how to find bugs in c applications and make their exploits
[16:06] <knoxy> erUSUL: I lose much performance with that?
[16:06] <loevborg> MindSpark, you can ask ssh to use a different identity; but it probably needs to be owned by root
[16:06] <llutz_> c0d3r_C_c0d3r: /j ##c
[16:06] <esing123> Hm different problem. When I want to logon with vncviewer to my linux 192.168.0.102 Iam asked for the password. After entering the password it says " failed authentication". But I set a password to x11vnc -storepasswd
[16:06] <jrib> MindSpark: are you sure the instructions on your link don't work?  Note there seem to be two requirements: 1) add your user to the fuse group (and log out and back in) and 2) structure the fstab line like described
[16:06] <ethernet> c0d3r_C_c0d3r: google is your friend
[16:06] <erUSUL> knoxy: really dunno. do not have the experience... did you ask in #ubuntu-server ?
[16:06] <c0d3r_C_c0d3r> thanks ethernet
[16:06] <c0d3r_C_c0d3r> i've just finished 'hacking the art of exploitation 2nd edition'
[16:06] <c0d3r_C_c0d3r> i want to know more
[16:07] <j3d3> are you running something in a VM anywhere in this scenario?
[16:07] <ethernet> c0d3r_C_c0d3r: learn C
[16:07] <llutz_> c0d3r_C_c0d3r: advanced hackers should know net-searching basics
[16:07] <knoxy> erUSUL: no one talks in there
[16:07] <jlink005> c0d3r_C_c0d3r: Enhance your Google-Fu
[16:08] <ethernet> c0d3r_C_c0d3r: learn some programming languages, learn how the software (deamon) webapp works and try
[16:08] <MindSpark> c0d3r_C_c0d3r, the shellcoders handbook
[16:08] <MindSpark> I never got to finish it though
[16:08] <dan-mytt> Hi anyone got any experience with skype webcams! My webcam is viewable in the skype test, but not viewable when making a call! the other person can't see my cam!
[16:08] <MindSpark> supposedly one of the best
[16:09] <loevborg> MindSpark, this page: http://inode.co.nz/sshfs-options-in-fstab mentions an option "IdentityFile", which may be what you're looking for; you still need to check the permissions (the private key must be readable only by the owner, thus root)
[16:09] <erUSUL> knoxy: well that's all i can say about the matter....
[16:09] <jlink005> dan-mytt: I'm assuming you've already opened the appropriate ports in your router/firewall?
[16:09] <gmachine_24> Hi - I just did a did an update and received error messages ... I don't know if it's too much to post here - the line that is repeated again and again is "DKMS tree must be manually fixed."
[16:09] <erUSUL> knoxy: http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/119525
[16:09] <cyclist_2> Hello, there! could someone explain to me why am I getting a 'bad signature' error message when I try to verify Truecrypt's signature for its latest version?
[16:10] <MindSpark> loevborg, perfect ! thanks a lot
[16:10] <loevborg> MindSpark, you're welcome
[16:10]  * Pupuser402-1 rr
[16:11] <c0d3r_C_c0d3r> thank you all, i'm going to pray now, i'll be back
[16:11] <ua> need, your help, i've this message error: Could not save the file /home/ab/Desktop/vbox errors.
[16:11] <Lars_G> Greets all.
[16:11] <ua> i tested to save one file in my desktop, and it guives me this message
[16:11] <h6w> ua: Is your disk full?
[16:12] <esing123> llutz_
[16:12] <ua> There is not enough disk space to save the file. Please free some disk space and try again.
[16:12] <dan-mytt> Hi anyone got any experience with skype webcams! My webcam is viewable in the skype test, but not viewable when making a call! the other person can't see my cam!
[16:12] <h6w> ua: That'd be it.  Delete some files and try again, like it says.
yes how can i do to increase it
[16:12] <Lars_G> I'm trying to move an ubuntu 10.04 install from HVM in xenserver (citrix) to PV, trouble is, when I set it to PV, it begins loading, sets the IP, complains about a tonnage of deprecated udev config calls, complains that it can't find a z60 xen ruleset for udev, and then hangs there forever not starting any service.....
[16:12] <Lars_G> Any ideas, or tips?
[16:13] <h6w> ua: Nothing.  Unless you've specified a small partition, you can only upgrade your hard disk.
[16:13] <bfri> can anyone help me install IMMS
[16:13] <andrei_> I have some trubble installing Natty alpha 3 on a macbook pro 8.3(17")
[16:13] <h6w> ua: You would have the same problem on Windows if you filled your hard disk.
[16:13] <andrei_> I am trying to install Natty on it through bootcamp, but I get this error message:
[16:14] <llutz_> !natty | andrei_
[16:14] <bfri> I need to learn this once and for all
[16:14] <bfri> can anyone take me through the steps to install a imms through the terminal
[16:15] <andrei_> yes I know, but it is the only ubuntu that will run on the new macbooks
[16:15] <llutz_> andrei_: if you know that, go to #ubuntu+1
[16:16] <andrei_> ok thanks
[16:16] <MindSpark> loevborg, works great ! thanks again
[16:16] <loevborg> np
[16:17] <bfri> can anyone take me through the steps to install a imms through the terminal
[16:17] <llutz_> bfri: what is an "imms"?
[16:18] <drc> bfri: imms-comman and imms-audacious are in the 10.10 repo's.  Try from there.
[16:18] <salkkari> ds
[16:18] <dan-mytt> Hi anyone got any experience with skype webcams! My webcam is viewable in the skype test, but not viewable when making a call! the other person can't see my cam!
[16:18] <bfri> llutz its music software like fruty loops
[16:18] <juk> !skype
[16:18] <bfri> drc: i know but i want to know how to install a program downloading it myself
[16:18] <gfs> goodnight all
[16:19] <bfri> llutz actually its LMMS
[16:20] <llutz_> bfri: ok, never heard about it so unfortunately i cannot help you.
[16:20] <gfs> compire source??
[16:20] <esing123> llutz_ Iam stuck again. Even when entering the IP I cant access my Linux. After entering the password it says: Authentication failed.
[16:20] <drc> bfiller: LMMS is Linux Multimedia Studio, imms is a audio playlist manager...which do you want?
[16:21] <esing123> llutz_ Is this a firewall problem?
[16:21] <nkn> anyone know a fix for the autohide bug on gnome-panel? when its not extended and its set to autohide, sometimes it stops hideing and u gotta kill gnome-panel so it can work again
[16:21] <llutz_> esing123: as i told you, i don't have any clue about vnc and such
[16:21] <bfri> llutz: i downloaded the .tar.bz2.  do you know how to turn that into a functioning program?
[16:21] <esing123> Ah okay :)
[16:21] <llutz_> !compile | bfri
[16:21] <llutz_> !checkinstall> bfri
[16:22] <llutz_> bfri: extract tar-file, read README or INSTALL file, which should be inside
[16:22] <drc> bfiller: opps...sorry, bad tab complete :(
[16:22] <bfri> llutz: i did but it lost me on the make part
[16:22] <bfri> llutz: there is something im missing
[16:23] <llutz_> bfri: usually -dev packages missing
[16:23] <bfri> llutz: how do i know?
 i can not save it , it's realy problem, can you guive the comande to look for my space desktop and home  or bu gui
[16:23] <c0d3r_C_c0d3r> bfri hi
[16:24] <c0d3r_C_c0d3r> ?
[16:24] <c0d3r_C_c0d3r> hello
[16:24] <bfri> c0d3r_c_c0d3r: hello
[16:25] <h6w> ua: Try Applications->Accessories->Disk Usage Analyser
[16:25] <c0d3r_C_c0d3r> bfri i was just trying to get the IRC command trick
[16:25] <bfri> c0d3r_c_c0d3r: what is that?
[16:26] <c0d3r_C_c0d3r> Slach + MSG + nickname + message
[16:26] <llutz_> bfri: check the "error" "file not found" whatever message, use "apt-file search file" to find the package containing it
[16:28] <esing123> Someone has experience with VNC on Ubuntu (as a Server) and on Windows( as a client) ?
[16:30] <cptmorgan> is there a way to disable /var/run and /var/lock being mounted as tmpfs?
[16:31] <juk> what is unlock password for user@box, how is it used with ssh?
[16:31] <bloodscalp> join symfony
[16:32] <llutz_> cptmorgan: check  /etc/init/mounted-varrun.conf
[16:32] <cptmorgan> llutz_: in 8.04 LTS?
[16:33] <llutz_> cptmorgan:you didn't mention that ancient version. look at /etc/init.d/mount* then
[16:34] <sacarlson> juk: I think that was an example use your own username and ip address in it's place
[16:34] <cptmorgan> llutz_: I've looked at the scripts... is it okay to just comment out  domount tmpfs "" /var/run -omode=0755,nodev,noexec,nosuid and the same for /var/lock?
[16:35] <Guest34048> irc.what.cd
[16:35] <llutz_> cptmorgan: i never tried it and don't know about sideeffect.
[16:35] <kaisukaru> Hello! VirtualBox on my ubuntu 10.10 is running Win7 terribly slow, has anyone suggestions how to fix this?
[16:35] <kaisukaru> (bootup time 10minutes, works fine)
[16:35] <llutz_> cptmorgan: if you disable it, i guess you would have to make sure those dirs are clean after reboot
[16:37] <juk> sacarlson: no, not really, i see this in my system -> prefs -> passwords and keys, it's juk@box actually
[16:37] <juk> sacarlson: it's different with my unix pass
[16:37] <Sub_Zero> I'm trying to install a package but it's asking for me to install 'libpackagekit-glib2-12' first. Where can I find this?
[16:37] <sacarlson> juk: so then ssh juk@box  and give it your password you normaly use to login
[16:37] <lvh> Hey. What's the channel for Natty?
[16:38] <Pici> lvh: #ubuntu+1
[16:38] <lvh> Thanks.
[16:38] <alae> hello
[16:38] <Lars_G> Where are halfway installed packages' scripts stored by apt/dpkg?
[16:38] <sacarlson> juk: if from a remote then replace box with an ip or domain name  ssh juk@192.168.2.4
[16:38] <Lars_G> I have a half installed package that wont configure and thus I can't either finish or remove
[16:38] <alae> please i need to make my upper panel become like it was first, i mean i deleted it and when i got it back, it didn't have the sound icon, wifi icon
[16:38] <mdryicebob> Lars-G: sudo apt-get install -f
[16:39] <juk> sacarlson: hehe musunderstanding, i can login successfully, just wondering what is it used in there
[16:39] <sacarlson> juk: it should be the same as your unix password
[16:39] <llutz_> !resetpanel
[16:39] <cptmorgan> llutz_: okay thanks for your help
[16:39] <llutz_> alae: see ubottu
[16:40] <_skpl> can someone help me? im trying to share files on my ubuntu box with a windows machein
[16:40] <_skpl> i've got the windows pc to recognize the folder i wanna share but i cant login
[16:40] <Lars_G> dryicebomb: That continues to produce the same error over and over and over
[16:40] <Lars_G> dryicebomb: It never finishes the install or can't uninstall it
[16:41] <alae> llutz_ : sorry but i don't know what is it :s
[16:41] <juk> sacarlson: hehe, it's not i can tick show for ●●●●●●●●● there
[16:41] <llutz_> !resetpanel|alae
[16:42] <sacarlson> _skpl: if your lucky you just right click on a folder in nautilus and select share and hit the boxes to provide low security so any one can get in
[16:42] <alae> thanks llutz_ ! :D
[16:43] <dryicebomb> Lars_G: take a look at this link, see if it helps you out, http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/apt-get-how-to-fix-very-broken-packages/
[16:45] <terry> !samba | _skpl
[16:46] <milk_> anyone know if firefox 4 will become available as an update? as my ff 3 has no 'Check for updates' option :/
[16:47] <terry> Lars_G: What error?  (What does it say?)
[16:48] <nit-wit> milk, you have the ubuntu version, it updates through the manager
[16:48] <nit-wit> milk, ff4 is available in a ppa it s in Natty
[16:50] <milk_> aaah, cool
[16:52] <esing123> How do I open port 5900 in ubuntu?
[16:53] <Kimmen> no ports are closed per default in ubuntu
[16:53] <Kimmen> as far as I know
[16:53] <ruan> unless you have a router
[16:53] <esing123> I have a router
[16:53] <esing123> but I want to access my linux local
[16:53] <esing123> not behind through internet
[16:54] <ruan> get something to listen to the port.. i forgot the name of the tool that can do that
[16:54] <[TK]D-Fender> esing123: What should be opening it?
[16:54] <ruan> or do port forwarding
[16:54] <esing123> I dont understand
[16:54] <esing123> why should I open a port in my router also this is local?
[16:54] <Kimmen> you have to have somethin that listens to port 5900
[16:54] <esing123> *although
[16:54] <Kimmen> you don't
[16:55] <esing123> yes I have a client installed on my windows computer
[16:55] <llutz_> esing123: "sudo iptables -L"  to check if something blocks
[16:55] <Kimmen> netstat -tnl
[16:55] <llutz_> esing123: sudo lsof -i :5900             to check if something listens
[16:55] <Kimmen> to check if what your machine listens to
[16:56] <BluesKaj> esing123, open your router webpage and check your local IPs for the the machines on your network , then you can access them by adding network folders in nautilus/network
[16:56] <esing123>      
[16:56] <esing123> tcp6       0      0 :::5900                 :::*                    LISTEN
[16:56] <esing123> tcp6       0      0 :::5901                 :::*                    LISTEN
[16:56] <FloodBot1> esing123: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:56] <[TK]D-Fender> esing123: and pastebin "iptables --list"
[16:56] <esing123> llutz_ nothing is blocked in iptables -L
[16:57] <[TK]D-Fender> esing123: that is also TCP6, not TCP4 <-
[16:57] <esing123> tcp is also listed
[16:57] <esing123> (for port 5900 and 5901)
[16:57] <ccvvcc> how do i stop a job
[16:58] <juk> ccvvcc: ctrl+z
[16:58] <[TK]D-Fender> esing123: 6, not 4
[16:58] <ccvvcc> i ran a bash script file with & and it keeps running
[16:58] <ccvvcc> juk it doesnt work
[16:58] <Kimmen> jobs -l | awk '{print $1}' | xargs kill -9
[16:58] <esing123> BlueKaj what do you meana?
[16:58] <juk> ccvvcc: & means forking it
[16:58] <esing123> BlueKaj My local linux IP is 192.168.0.102
[16:58] <ccvvcc> ok so  how i stop fork
[16:59] <juk> ccvvcc: run it normally, then ctrl+z
[16:59] <ccvvcc> the bash file keeps running
[16:59] <tucemiux> ccvvcc, ps aux [nameofforkedapp] | killall [nameofforkedapp]
[17:00] <tucemiux> ccvvcc, i forgot grep, sorry
[17:00] <ascheel> Question about gparted in Ubuntu.  If I want to shrink a partition, if there is data towards the end of the partition, will it move it closer to the front of the drive so the information is not lost, assuming there is sufficient free space after the resize?
[17:00] <tucemiux> ccvvcc, ps aux| grep [nameofforkedapp]| killall [nameofforkedapp]
[17:00] <ccvvcc> its a bash script
[17:00] <ccvvcc> its runinng the next command
[17:00] <tucemiux> what's the name of the script?
[17:01] <ccvvcc> script.sh
[17:01] <dan-mytt> hi can anyone explain why i have a usr/lib64 directory on a 32 bit install??
[17:01] <tucemiux> ps aux| grep script.sh| killall script.sh
[17:02] <ccvvcc> : no process found
[17:02] <tucemiux> ps aux| grep script.sh; killall script.sh
[17:02] <dajhorn> dan-mytt:  Run `dpkg -S /usr/lib64`.
[17:02] <tucemiux> my mistake
[17:03] <juk> ccvvcc: for((;;));do; echo hi >> foo.out;done; chmod it and run ./foo.sh, open another window an watch or wc foo.out, then go back and ctrl+z it and see again it stoped flooding
[17:03] <orlandoj> hi all. anyone has been used Xerces-C on Ubuntu ?
[17:04] <jbwiv_> does anyone know of a decent bluetooth headset that works on linux for use with things like ekiga?
[17:06] <J450N__> which is the best ubuntu distu for a celeron 433mhz laptop 256mb ram, 6gb hdd with PCMCIA wifi card (RT61 chipset)
[17:06] <khem_> what is the name of the startup disk creator in ubuntu, if i want to start it up from the terminal? want some verbose output since it doesnt load my ubuntu 10.10 desktop .iso
[17:06] <dajhorn> dan-mytt: (Don't send private messages in this channel.)  That is is legitimate.  Ubuntu is moving towards multiarch.  Don't worry about it.
[17:06] <khem_> J450N__: how about lubuntu?
[17:06] <joel135> J450N__: lubuntu
[17:06] <juk> jbwiv_: yuo'll be lucky if you get it just to record the sound
[17:06] <tucemiux> J450N__, i would try lubuntu
[17:07] <oxicarus> anyone with a clue what has happened? my ubuntu machine wont accept tcp connections over the internet, but only locally. i.e. i have two machines connected to a router (with nat disabled) and my isp is capable of delivering several sharp internet ips. now, when i do 'ping serverbox.local' from other machine, it answers, also 'ping internetip' works from other machine on same router.
[17:07] <J450N__> thanks all i will look into that, looks good from here
[17:07] <jbwiv_> juk, really? specifically with  a bluetooth headset or just any headset?
[17:07] <joel135> J450N__: try TinyCore Linux if that's too heavy(not Ubuntu)
[17:07] <oxicarus> however, when i try 'ping internetip' from another psysical place (over the internet), it wont answer :| however, nmap reports all tcp ports open (that hsould be open), but i just cant connect to any of them.
[17:07] <BluesKaj> !xubuntu |J450N__
[17:07] <dan-mytt> dalhorn: fakeroot: usr/lib64 was the out come
[17:07] <juk> jbwiv_: specifically? really is there specifacally headsets for linux?
[17:08] <tucemiux> oxicarus, what do you mean by "tcp connections"?  what is exactly the service that broke?  your web server??
[17:08] <jbwiv_> juk, I'm asking if you mean you think I'll have problems with bluetooth headsets or just headsets in general
[17:08] <reliability> hi
[17:09] <oxicarus> tucemiux: ssh, icmp, httpd, for instance.
[17:09] <tucemiux> jbwiv_,  youll have problems with sound and  ekiga, I suggest the forums or the web for something like that, last I heard it was working flaky but its been a long while since then
[17:09] <atoi|laptop> If I have apache2 installed and I have the version installed... 2.2.14-5ubuntu8.4 ... where can I see the security flaws that have been addressed by this package? That is, I need to prove, for PCI compliance, that this version has been backported with the appropriate fixes.
[17:10] <atoi|laptop> I remember there was some place to find this..
[17:10] <jrib> atoi|laptop: the changelog for the package?
[17:10] <jbwiv_> tucemiux, are there other softphone clients for ubuntu that would work better?
[17:10] <atoi|laptop> jrib, essentially, yeah.
[17:10] <jrib> atoi|laptop: if you have aptitude: aptitude changelog apache2
[17:10] <atoi|laptop> I mean, I found this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2/2.2.14-5ubuntu8.4
[17:10] <atoi|laptop> jrib, ah...
[17:10] <tucemiux> oxicarus, ok so you had service in your ubuntu machine that were working before and accessible from the internet but now they only function locally and  not from the internet ?
[17:11] <reliability> Is there a way how one can set the main screen (the one displaying the menu bar) in Administrator->Monitors when using dual head?
[17:11] <reliability> I can't find such an option.
[17:11] <atoi|laptop> jrib, do you know if it's online somewhere?
[17:11] <tucemiux> jbwiv_,  look in the forums and search the web, if you do find of an answer let me know, I recently bought a headphone with a mic to try voice chat but havent had the time lately
[17:12] <jbwiv_> tucemiux, ok, cool. did you buy bluetooth or something else?
[17:12] <jrib> atoi|laptop: that command actually fetches it from changelogs.ubuntu.com .  packages.ubuntu.com may be a saner interface than directly accessing changelogs.ubuntu.com however
[17:12] <atoi|laptop> Ah, OK.
[17:12] <esing123> well
[17:12] <tucemiux> jbwiv_,  neither of my machines have bluetooth, I connect the headphone directly to my sound card
[17:12] <esing123> I found out that it works when I start x11vnc manually but why is autostart not working?
[17:12] <jbwiv_> tucemiux, ok, thanks
[17:13] <Abhijit> !dualhead | reliability
[17:13] <esing123> I can see x11vnc in my tasks though after reboot !!
[17:13] <reliability> ubottu: thx
[17:13] <esing123> how do I write this Exec=x11vnc -gui tray=setpass -rfbport PROMPT -bg -o %%HOME/.x11vnc.log.%%VNCDISPLAY
[17:13] <esing123>                     so like it stays all the time open although the connection is aborted from the client side?
[17:14] <atoi|laptop> Thanks a bunch, jrib. :)
[17:14] <jrib> atoi|laptop: no problem
[17:17] <RussellAlan> hi, ubuntu crashed on me the other day, when i reboot says, no init found
[17:17] <RussellAlan> can someone point me in the right direction?
[17:17] <mika__> hi, any ppa for firefox4?
[17:17] <mongy> in the rsync manpage it says "famous for its delta-transfer algorithm, which reduces the amount of data sent over the network by sending only the differences between the source files and the existing files in the destination", so I have tried with a 10gig vbox vdi, I changed it by adding a 200mb zeroed file inside it, then run rsync which just sent the whole file again.  what am I missing.
[17:17] <Abhijit> RussellAlan, which version of ubuntu?
[17:18] <llutz_> mongy: what was your exact command?
[17:18] <RussellAlan> Abhijit, the latest.
[17:18] <dryicebomb> mika__: ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa
[17:18] <RussellAlan> 10.10
[17:18] <mongy> llutz, rsync --verbose --progress serv1010.vdi /media/usb-backup/
[17:18] <arkady> jestem nowy jak dograć pliki mp3 w ubuntu do płyty dvd na xp chodziło oki czy nero czy ashampoo a tu ani brasero ani k3b nie daje rady miby próbujeale wywala bład
[17:19] <Abhijit> RussellAlan, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1594621
[17:19] <mika__> dryicebomb: it has the beta13
[17:19] <juk> !cz | arkady
[17:19] <llutz_> mongy: --update missing
[17:20] <abhijeet> is there anyway to install the latest version of firefox in ubuntu
[17:20] <abhijeet> I can't find any official release till now
[17:20] <Dio_Scannato> hello everyone, i need some help setting up some pc's with ubuntu installed as "public computers" , any hardening tips you could give me to make sure they arent violated easily?
[17:20] <mongy> llutz, "--update                skip files that are newer on the receiver" ?
[17:20] <DynamicFail> I had an external harddrive in windows that someone ctrl alt del while searching and now it appears as 0 data on it in windows and doesn't show up in ubuntu... anything you guys could suggest on how i might be able to recover it using ubuntu?
[17:20] <dajhorn> esing123: If you want `screen` for X11 applications, then try the xpra package.
[17:21] <Dio_Scannato> DynamicFail: doesnt show up in ubuntu or grub?
[17:21] <Abhijit> abhijeet, no. you need to get it manualy from their website. there are some ppa's on laucnhpad too
[17:21] <DynamicFail> Dio_Scannato, well when I plug it in, I don't see anything on the desktop show up... and I don't see anything in disk utiility
[17:21] <dryicebomb> mika__: Sorry, i guess i didn't realize that today was the official release date
[17:22] <garyholt> Hello.. I have a HP 6910p laptop and I am wondering if anyone know how to activate the fingerprint reader?
[17:22] <Mathuin> Is there any reason to choose 32bit over 64bit when running on 64bit-capable hardware?
[17:22] <tripelb> DynamicFail, does fdisk show anything?  Can you use fdisk nondestructively?
[17:22] <abhijeet> Abhijit, I have downloaded the tar file for mozilla site.. but the firefox lool and feel seems ugly...
[17:22] <Abhijit> Mathuin, no
[17:22] <mika__> dryicebomb: no problem :) i've added the firefox-stable ppa, but still no 4.0... i think i'll just have to wait some more :)
[17:22] <Abhijit> !64 | Mathuin
[17:22] <Abhijit> Mathuin, go for 64
[17:22] <Dio_Scannato> DynamicFail: try mounting it, you know whats its sda/sdb number?
[17:22]  * tripelb is a seeker like you DynamicFail - nothing I say is true, all is speculation and trial.
[17:22] <abhijeet> Abhijit, it seems like old age Gnome
[17:22] <Mathuin> Abhijit: I only ask because the download page recommends 32-bit.  I'll take 64, thanks!
[17:23] <Abhijit> abhijeet, yeah
[17:23] <RussellAlan> thanks Abhijit, will reboot and see if it worked.
[17:23] <Abhijit> Mathuin, that page is not updated. dont listen to that page. go for 64
[17:23] <Abhijit> RussellAlan, hmm
[17:23] <tripelb> DynamicFail, http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/tech_support_cheat_sheet.png lol
[17:24] <DynamicFail> Dio_Scannato, how can you mount it if you don't see it in disk utility
[17:24] <Dio_Scannato> DynamicFail: good point , was worth trying mount tho
[17:24] <Mathuin> What's the essential difference between server and desktop editions?
[17:25] <Dio_Scannato> Mathuin: that desktop is to access the internet services, server is to give internet services, very basic and incorrect explanation but i hope it helps
[17:25] <dryicebomb> Mathuin: server doesn't run a graphical interface by default
[17:25] <dajhorn> Mathuin: Everything in the server edition is available in the desktop edition.  Go with desktop.
[17:25] <bcessa> hi there, I'm trying to install oracle-xe on AMD64 ubuntu server, I added this to package sources "deb http://oss.oracle.com/debian unstable main non-free" but I get this error message as soon as I try to run apt-get upgrade: W: Failed to fetch http://oss.oracle.com/debian/dists/unstable/Release  Unable to find expected entry  main/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[17:25] <BluesKaj> 1server
[17:25] <Mathuin> Dio_Scannato: no, that's a pretty decent explanation, and dryicebomb's addition is all I really needed.
[17:25] <Dio_Scannato> Mathuin: also, you could turn dekstop in server and vice-versa
[17:25] <bcessa> any ideas on how to accomplish this?
[17:25] <Mathuin> dajhorn: this is a headless box, I don't want to install X and friends unless I have to.
[17:25] <BluesKaj> !server
[17:26] <mello> hi! i daownloaded firefox 4 on form there website but how do i install it under ubuntu 10.10? its just a folder with a bunch of files dont really know how to update my current FF 3.6->4.0 thank you
[17:26] <Dio_Scannato> mello: lookup the firefox ppa
[17:26] <Abhijit> mello, please read the READ ME file inside that folder
[17:27] <dajhorn> bcessa:  Oracle does not publish 64-bit binaries there.
[17:27] <Dio_Scannato> mello: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable
[17:27] <tucemiux> Mathuin, the server edition is mainly for server services, like web server, file server, etc.  -- it only has the minimal software to act as a server -- it has no GUI, the desktop edition has a desktop manager with GUI, although you can use the desktop version as a server it would be less secure because of all the extra packages you need to maintain
[17:27] <bcessa> dajhorn: ok, so I'm guessing I've to install it manually right?
[17:27] <Dio_Scannato> mello: i think it would be better to follow Abhijit's instructions though, supposed to explain you how to do everything on your own
[17:27] <dajhorn> bcessa:   You'll need to force it.
[17:28] <bcessa> don't know how, I'll google it :o
[17:28] <dajhorn> bcessa:   dpkg --install --force-architecture MyPackage.deb
[17:28] <mello> Dio_Scannato: thank u, well the readme file didnt contai anything helpful for me just a link to a page a have spent the last 30min to find some help
[17:28] <dajhorn> bcessa: Forcing packages can break your system.  Run the Oracle stuff on 32-bits if you can.
[17:29] <Abhijit> oh mello  sorry you are talking about firefox!!!! :-D its very simple! just go to terminal cd to the firefox directory and chmod +x ./firefox and then just do ./firefox
[17:29] <bcessa> can't really, the server is AMD64, but thnx for the advice, will keep it in mind :)
[17:29] <Dio_Scannato> mello: the readme Abhijit told you to read though is supposed to have (in most cases) instructions usefull in any case, infos about compiling packaging and so on but if you want it quick and dirty go on lol
[17:29] <garyholt> Hello.. I have a HP 6910p laptop and I am wondering if anyone know how to activate the fingerprint reader?
[17:30] <Abhijit> Dio_Scannato, no sorry it was my mistake!!! i just downloaded both firefox and freecol so i was just consfued with thier name!!! running firefox is very easy!!!
[17:30] <Mathuin> One last question for you folks:  is this the channel to discuss Ubuntu Cloud or is that elsewhere?
[17:30] <Dio_Scannato> Abhijit: lol, in fact firefox doesnt give compile guides, both's mistake lol
[17:30] <Abhijit> Dio_Scannato, :-D
[17:30] <Abhijit> Mathuin, here only
[17:31] <ferum> епт
[17:31] <esing123> Is -forever placed on the correct position people?       Exec=/usr/bin/x11vnc -rfbauth -o /tmp/x11vnc.log -forever -bg -rfbport 5901 -no$<
[17:31] <Pici> Mathuin: #ubuntu-server would be a better place to ask UEC questions.
[17:31] <Abhijit> :-(
[17:31] <Mathuin> Pici: Thanks!!
[17:31] <b1lly> anyone have a solution to this problem?
[17:31] <b1lly> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1634029.html
[17:31] <mello> Dio_Scannato: Abhijit thanx both for ur help :)
[17:31] <Pici> Mathuin: Actually, #ubuntu-cloud too
[17:32] <Abhijit> mello, welcome!
[17:32] <Abhijit> b1lly, describe it in one line here and at entd of description give that link
[17:32] <Dio_Scannato> mello: any time
[17:32] <Dio_Scannato> Abhijit: why u just frowned? O_O
[17:33] <Abhijit> Dio_Scannato, nothing!!!
[17:33] <esing123> ****REBOOTING***
[17:35] <picantePants> is there a resource that shows common packages i need to install for a DEV environment? i know im missing things but am not sure what. example: php curl, apc, etc
[17:35] <picantePants> just looking for an article or something with common packages
[17:36] <garyholt> Hello.. I have a HP 6910p laptop and I am wondering if anyone know how to activate the fingerprint reader?
[17:36] <[segfault]> picantePants: Have you already installed build-essentials?
[17:36] <Abhijit> garyholt, http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/04/get-your-fingerprint-reader-to-work-in.html
[17:36] <picantePants> [segfault] no looking into it now
[17:37] <[segfault]> picantePants: it's actually build-essential for the package name.. I accidentally added an 's'
[17:38] <StrangeCharm> when is the new version of firefox going to make it into the ubuntu repositories?
[17:38] <JTS000ID> Is it possible to create a launcher and then assign it to a menu using bash script??
[17:38] <EClaesson> Empathy doesn't want to connect to MSN or IRC. It keeps saying Connecting... Pidgin works fine, so it's no connection problems
[17:39] <EClaesson> And yes, my username and passwords and such is correct
[17:39] <sintesis> hi! can i help me with pocketsphinx, please? i need to chande my acoustic model, and i can't do this
[17:40] <txh> ubuntu
[17:41] <txh> ho do I resume a canceled dd process?
[17:41] <Abhijit> txh, fg
[17:42] <Witeds> hello i have been trying to get samba to work on my ubuntu server but i keep geting unknown commands from the config i need help configuring it to samba4
[17:42] <llutz_> txh: dd skip=xxx             skip the blocks already transfered
[17:42] <sintesis> someone knows how can i change my acoustic model in pocketsphinx?
[17:43] <RussellAlan> Abhijit, the command worked, but now I have no menu bars
[17:43] <RussellAlan> how can I recover these? gnome?
[17:43] <dajhorn> txh: On regular files, you might also need conv=notrunc
[17:43] <Abhijit> !panels | RussellAlan
[17:44] <RussellAlan> key combo to pull up terminal?
[17:44] <Witeds> any one can help me with the samba4 config ?
[17:44] <Abhijit> RussellAlan, ctrl alt t
[17:44] <_skpl> >>
[17:44] <sintesis> please some help woth pocket sphinx???
[17:45] <RussellAlan> Abhijit, gnome-panel: no process found
[17:45] <siick> hello, im running ubuntu 10.10, trying to run a .tcl script, giving me the error "Error: version conflict for package "Tcl": have 8.4, need 8.5", checking with apt-cache tells me that i got 8.5 installed already, google didnt give me any ideas ;(
[17:45] <ruan> RussellAlan: start it up then?
[17:45] <Abhijit> ??
[17:45] <Abhijit> RussellAlan, what have you typed in terminal
[17:46] <RussellAlan> koh@koh:~$ gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[17:46] <RussellAlan> gnome-panel: no process found
[17:46] <Abhijit> RussellAlan, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1662928
[17:48] <RussellAlan> koh@koh:~$ gnome-panel
[17:48] <RussellAlan> gnome-panel: error while loading shared libraries: libart_lgpl_2.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:49] <Abhijit> RussellAlan, http://forums.cacti.net/post-95563.html
[17:51] <ruan> also possibly sudo apt-get check
[17:55] <b1lly> im having trouble with my video in gui, anyone have any suggestion? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1634029
[17:57] <ubuntu__> hi
[17:57] <ruan> siick: have you tried reinstalling 8.5?
[17:58] <smallfoot-> i want firefox 4!!! ITS OUT RELEASE FINAL TODAY!!! PUT IN REPO NOW!!
[17:58] <ubuntu_> anybody familiar with plop, or booting an external hd with Ubuntu from a flashdrive?
[17:59] <Abhijit> smallfoot-, you can download from thier website
[17:59] <smallfoot-> i want in repo
[17:59] <ruan> lol. i prefer firefox 3's interface though
[18:00] <SixThreeOh> How can I install flash for firefox? No matter what I do it claims I'm using flash 9 on windows XP
[18:00] <quup> I used checkinstall and now apt is totally fucked: apt-get --dry-run -f install  gives: http://pastebin.com/zc9BDpZj   what can I do?
[18:00] <quup> apt-get dist-upgrade gives: http://pastebin.com/QLyNPFwF
[18:01] <c0d3r_C_c0d3r> bfri
[18:01] <joeyr> anybody familiar with plop, or booting an external hd with Ubuntu from a flashdrive?
[18:02] <b1lly> i ran nvidia-bug-report and it created a log.gz file but i cant view it, it looks like acsii
[18:02] <ruan> SixThreeOh: sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin ?
[18:02] <Kimmen> b1lly: log.gz is a gzip file
[18:03] <b1lly> oo, so how do i extract it and view it
[18:03] <Kimmen> try tar -xzvf log.gz
[18:03] <ruan> b1lly: from terminal or gui?
[18:04] <b1lly> either or
[18:04] <b1lly> terminal
[18:04] <b1lly> pref
[18:04] <ruan> you can use tar or 7z to extract it
[18:04] <wildc4rd> evenin all!
[18:04] <Abhijit> !usb | joeyr
[18:05] <b1lly> ruan: i do sudo tar nvidia-bug-report.log.gz
[18:05] <b1lly> missing argument
[18:05] <ruan> b1lly: sudo tar -xzvf
[18:06] <b1lly> "this does not look like a tar archive"
[18:06] <b1lly> sudo tar -xzvf nvidia-bug-report.log.gz
[18:06] <joeyr> ubottu: I have a usb and a flashdrive. I have ubuntu on my external, and I am trying to access it by using a bootloader to get to the external, because even though I changed the bios settings to have the external be read first, it says "this device is unbootable"
[18:06] <ruan> 7z supports gzip, install it
[18:06] <Besogon> b1lly, unzip?
[18:07] <ruan> or unzip
[18:07] <b1lly> idk i just want to be able to read the log files
[18:07] <b1lly> so i guess i want to unzip it first right?
[18:07] <ruan> whichever works.
[18:08] <Kimmen> or gunzip
[18:08] <b1lly> how do i install gunzip?
[18:08] <b1lly> sudo apt-get install gunzip ?
[18:08] <chobbs> Anyone handy with google's calendar API?
[18:08] <Kimmen> yup
[18:08] <ruan> b1lly: it comes with ubuntu i believe
[18:08] <ruan> !info gunzip
[18:08] <Pici> b1lly: That file isn't tarred, so just tar zvf file.gz
[18:08] <Pici> b1lly: no need for the 'x'
[18:08] <ruan> !info unzip
[18:09] <shmup> so what do you think i should look into for flickering. when my laptop starts to dim, because it's been idle for a few minutes, as it's nearing shutting off the display
[18:09] <shmup> instead of a gradual decline in brightness.. it flickers as well
[18:09] <b1lly> sudo tar -zvf nvidia-bug-report.log.gz
[18:09] <b1lly> tar: You must specify one of the `-Acdtrux' or `--test-label'  options
[18:09] <b1lly> Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information.
[18:09] <shmup> then the display goes black, like it should~
[18:09] <shmup> this isn't related to something going bad, just how my laptop is handling dimming
[18:10] <Pici> b1lly: fine, gunzip is installed by default, so you could use that too.  Alternatively, if you just want to view it, you could use zless (which I think is also installed by default).
[18:10] <b1lly> pici areon you talking about the gui or is this somethings thats cmdline based
[18:10] <ruan> i prefer 7z.. saves time for this kind of thing
[18:10] <Pici> b1lly: these are all command line things.
[18:11] <Besogon> b1lly, Have you tried unzip -j file.gz?
[18:11] <joeyr> Abhijit: hey, do you know what I'm talking about?
[18:11] <SixThreeOh> How can I uninstall flash player 9?
[18:12] <SixThreeOh> It just wont go away
[18:12] <ruan> SixThreeOh: does it show up in firefox plugin list?
[18:12] <SixThreeOh> yes
[18:12] <joeyr> Abhijit: I'm new to IRC, so I don't know what "!usb | joeyr" means
[18:12] <Abhijit> joeyr, no. explain
[18:12] <Besogon> b1lly, or gunzip -d file.gz?
[18:12] <Abhijit> aaaaaah
[18:12] <SixThreeOh> even after apt-get remove and reinstall
[18:12] <ruan> SixThreeOh: multiple versions of flash?
[18:12] <ruan> SixThreeOh: or only 9?
[18:12] <SixThreeOh> just 9
[18:12] <Abhijit> joeyr, read the lines below the "!usb | joeyr" line
[18:13] <SixThreeOh> non of the apt packages appear to provide 10
[18:13] <ruan> what about adobe-flashplugin ?
[18:13] <joeyr> Abhijit: Oh I see
[18:13] <ruan> adobe-flashplugin latest = 10.2.152.27
[18:13] <SixThreeOh> obsoleted
[18:13] <ruan> oh
[18:13] <Pici> !who
[18:13] <ruan> SixThreeOh: try flashplugin-installer
[18:14] <Kimmen> SixThreeOh: or flashplugin-nonfree
[18:14] <jrgifford> I'm using Banshee, and it's saying that the lyrics plugin is outdated. "Upgrade to Lyrics Plugin version 0.4. Powered by LyricsPlugin (http://www.lyricsplugin.com)"
[18:14] <ua> hello, need help
[18:14] <SixThreeOh> it says it installed but I'm still only seeing flash 9
[18:16] <Abhijit> bye gn.
[18:16] <ua> i tried to make an update , i 've had this error message :  W: Failed to fetch http://172.16.1.126/debian-security/dists/testing/updates/contrib/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Unable to connect to 172.16.1.126:http:
[18:16] <siick> ruan, sorry was on phone ;( yes i have tried to reinstall the packages, also tried to install some from an older ubuntu rls, nothing really changed
[18:16] <Pici> ua: Are you using Ubuntu or Debian?
[18:16] <THELONELYISLAND> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nKEf5dMHFI   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4iiyRv_NrQ&feature=related   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLPZmPaHme0   SUPPORT
[18:16] <THELONELYISLAND> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nKEf5dMHFI   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4iiyRv_NrQ&feature=related   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLPZmPaHme0   SUPPORT
[18:16] <FloodBot2> THELONELYISLAND: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:17] <chiiiiiz> hello!!!
[18:17] <chiiiiiz> I have the strangest problem.
[18:17] <ruan> ua: you might need to change your download mirror
[18:17] <chiiiiiz> I am using Ubuntu for 5 years, and I think I quite know well how to deal with most of the minor troubles
[18:18] <Pici> ruan: Deban is not supported here, and that is a debian repository.
[18:18] <ruan> alright then
[18:18] <ua> this is my error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/583911/
[18:18] <chiiiiiz> But now... when I click on any of my Shortcuts (Home, Images, Videos...), Nautilus does not open the place, but instead, VLC opens a video
[18:18] <zvacet> ruan:  mixing repos may not be good idea
[18:19] <SixThreeOh> I guess it's just broken
[18:19] <ruan> chiiiiiz: change open with default
[18:19] <Pici> ua: Those are all debian repisitories.  We do not support debian here. Please use #debian for support.
[18:19] <chiiiiiz> how to do it on a menu item?
[18:19] <Pici> ua: actually, you seem to have mixed debian and Ubuntu repos.
[18:19] <Pici> ua: What does lsb_release -a say?
[18:20] <ruan> chiiiiiz: right click a shortcut to a folder, open with Open Folder
[18:21] <ruan> chiiiiiz: oh
[18:21] <vooze> Stupid question; How do i install the new firefix 4? I just got the file and extracted it, and i can run ./firefox in the folder from terminal.. but i cant seem to install it
[18:21] <ruan> hmm. how would you set the default for opening folders
[18:21] <chiiiiiz> ruan: that simple.... thanks
[18:22] <Dio_Scannato> vooze: get the ppa, faster, better , easier
[18:22] <Dio_Scannato> vooze: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable
[18:22] <ruan> is there a way to make FF4 look like the old FF3?
[18:23] <Dio_Scannato> ruan: not sure, why would you want tho?
[18:23] <ruan> Dio_Scannato: i prefer it
[18:23] <ruan> the link name at the bottom when hovering over a link, etc
[18:23] <BigMao> Hi there - I'm having trouble running an OpenGL program.  I get the following error: "XRequest.137: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 0x4c00091" .  Can somebody at least point me towards the problem (Xorg, OpenGL, graphics card driver, etc?)  Thanks!
[18:23] <Dio_Scannato> ruan: sorry, not aware of any
[18:24] <Athenon> ruan:  all of the new versions are going to consistently look like that, so you might as well get used to it
[18:24] <ruan> Athenon: alright. but is there at least a way to get the link name when hovering over a link?
[18:25] <ruan> that was one of my fav features
[18:25] <vooze> Dio_Scannato, thanks alt, now that i have the two PPA-lines.. how do i add them the most easy way?=
[18:25] <uraninite> salut
[18:25] <Athenon> ruan:  link NAME, i have no idea....the url appears at the bottom, though
[18:25] <JTS000ID> I have a need to make my app available in Applications menu via install process?? Is there a good resource on how to do achieve this?
[18:25] <ruan> hmm. i never saw the URL when i checked ff4 in xp
[18:25] <Dio_Scannato> vooze : from synaptic / software sources
[18:25] <uraninite> ANTOINE T LA?
[18:25] <Abhijit> help
[18:25] <ruan> i'll try it again
[18:25] <Abhijit> accesing this page http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/maverick/release/desktop/xubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso gives me error You don't have permission to access /xubuntu/releases/maverick/release/desktop/xubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso on this server.
[18:26] <SixThreeOh> ah ha swfdec scum package
[18:26] <uraninite> ANTOINE T LA?
[18:26] <uraninite> ANTOINE T LA?
[18:26] <FloodBot2> uraninite: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:26] <ruan> Abhijit: same here
[18:26] <Breaking_Pitt> someone has ubuntu and kvm running?
[18:26] <Abhijit> oh god
[18:26] <Abhijit> i am really need to go to sleep.
[18:26] <Athenon> ruan:  its not instant....you have to wait a couple seconds with the hovering
[18:26] <ruan> ok
[18:26] <Breaking_Pitt> I'm not able to load a lvm volume from a kvm guest
[18:26] <Abhijit> ruan, its my bad we need to actuallly acces the .torrent file and not the .iso file!
[18:26] <Abhijit> ruan, :-D
[18:26] <JTS000ID> Does anyone have experience with install every where for linux? How can i create an application launcher?
[18:27] <Abhijit> ruan, bye. gn
[18:28] <Counterspell> Any way I can get Firefox 4.0 on Ubuntu 10.04?
[18:28] <Dio_Scannato> Counterspell: yes from ppa
[18:28] <terry> JTS000ID: What do you want to make a launcher for?
[18:28] <Dio_Scannato> Counterspell: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Counterspell: mozilla ppa
[18:28] <neiz> hey guys, I have one desktop and laptop.  I have an external HDD plugged into the laptop.  Is there anyway to share the external HDD over the network so that my desktop can see it?
[18:28] <Counterspell> thanks!
[18:28] <terry> JTS000ID: Is it something that's already in one of the menus?
[18:29] <Dio_Scannato> Counterspell: anytime
[18:29] <JTS000ID> terry: I have a custom app that I have developed for multiple platforms. My install everywhere is working fine but it currently doesn't create a laucher in the Applications menu. Just simply installs the app where I tell it to
[18:29] <ruan> if i get firefox4 from mozilla ppa, will it overwrite firefox 3.6?
[18:29] <terry> JTS000ID: If so, find it in the menu and right click on it and choose to create launcher.
[18:29] <JTS000ID> terry: Has to be part of install process
[18:30] <JTS000ID> It will be installed on 1000's of machines and we can't send our people 1000+ times
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> Neiz: share the mountpoint of the usb partition with samba and it will appear as a windows share
[18:30] <Dio_Scannato> ruan: not sure, probably yes
[18:30] <Lars_G> This is what I get, every time
[18:30] <Lars_G> http://pastebin.com/AK8jutxh
[18:30] <terry> JTS000ID: I see....
[18:30] <JTS000ID> terry: same thing as windows..all programs > your new software install
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> Ruan: no its seperate
[18:30] <neiz> !samba | neiz
[18:30] <ruan> JTS000ID: this is most definitely possible, i dont know how though
[18:30] <ruan> ActionParsnip: thanks
[18:30] <neiz> ActionParsnip, thanks
[18:31] <ruan> i've ran a .bin file that added a shortcut to applications
[18:31] <b1lly> im having trouble with my ubuntu, it wont detect my second monitor
[18:31] <JTS000ID> ruan: yeah..other apps are doing it...so i'm 110% sure it's doable and rocket science is required..but don't know the process :
[18:31] <b1lly> its a balck screen right now
[18:31] <zvacet> Lars_G : rey sudo dpkg --configure -a
[18:31] <JTS000ID> LOL rocket science is NOT required
[18:31] <zvacet> *try
[18:31] <ruan> JTS000ID: maybe there's a folder for applications menu somewhere
[18:31] <Salih87> Hello guys. Is there any volume control like windows 7. I want to control windows sound for example i wan to mute firefox and i want to volume up chromeium.
[18:32] <b1lly> im using a laptop and trying to hookup the second monitor thru the HDMI port, with a hdmi to vga converter
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> Ruan: but you will need to tell your apps to use the browser command firefox-4.0 and not firefox
[18:32] <Lars_G> zvacet: doest work
[18:32] <JTS000ID> ruan: I tried to put my app under /usr/share/applications but that didn't make any difference
[18:32] <Dio_Scannato> Salih87: what version are you using?
[18:32] <Salih87> 10.10 maverick
[18:32] <ruan> JTS000ID: it could be a gnome thing
[18:32] <Dio_Scannato> Salih87: click on audio applet, audio preferences , applications
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> Salih87: pulse has had that for ages
[18:32] <Lars_G> I just want to know where the post install scripts are stored on a half installed package, to edit it, and be done with this
[18:33] <JTS000ID> ruan: yes that's a good point..research concluded that it's a gnome thing
[18:33] <zvacet> Lars_G : sudo dpkg --configure nvidia-kernel-common
[18:33] <ruan> JTS000ID: gnome-vfs.applications - application registry!
[18:33] <JTS000ID> ruan: but i have to be as generic as possible..cuz the app could go on fedora boxes or other linux distributions
[18:33] <Lars_G> zvacet: doesn't work
[18:33] <Lars_G> same error
[18:34] <Lars_G> every time
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> Larsg: sudo find / -iname "*.postrm"
[18:34] <Salih87> İn application tab there is just alsa plugin
[18:34] <zvacet> Lars_G: sorry then
[18:34] <ruan> JTS000ID: check /usr/share/application-registry/
[18:34] <Lars_G> ActionParsnip: thaks, that will find it.
[18:34] <txh> linux is free but where can i buy stuff linux specific?
[18:34] <ruan> txh: what exactly?
[18:35] <Salih87> Ah ok i got it Dio_Scannato
[18:35] <JTS000ID> ruan: thanks..let me check
[18:35] <Salih87> Thanks
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> Lars_g: that find command will show you but I don't remember exactly right now
[18:35] <Dio_Scannato> Salih87: is there anything using audio? because else nothing will pop
[18:35] <Lars_G> txh: What kind of things?
[18:35] <oCean> txh: this is support channel. Offtopic chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:35] <Dio_Scannato> Salih87: replied too late llol, you re welcome
[18:35] <Lars_G> ActionParsnip: /var/lib/dpkg/info
[18:35] <Seppoz> hello, please what could be the problem that non-root users cant use auto completion?
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Txh: cedega is not free of cost nor is crossover office or the penumbra game series
[18:37] <Lars_G> ActionParsnip: I can kiss you.
[18:37] <Jemt> Hello. Where do Ubuntu store default settings for Firefox? Firefox is aware of the apt:// protocol, so either it was compiled with support for this, it is read from somewhere, or it is defined in a "defaults" configuration file
[18:37] <Lars_G> ActionParsnip: Btw about paid apps there are many many many in many areas
[18:37] <ruan> Jemt: /home/user/.mozilla/firefox/profile.default?
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> Seppoz: edit ~/.bashrc and the last if statement will probably be commented out
[18:38] <Lars_G> Games, wine versions, developer tools, systems
[18:38] <ruan> Jemt: not really sure though
[18:38] <Seppoz> let me see
[18:38] <Jemt> ruan: Thanks, but that's for a specific user. I need to find the "template" configuration used when a new user is created :)
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> Lars_G: i'm well aware. I've used Linux based OSes for many moons
[18:39] <bin_bash> Hello. I have a MacBook Pro 5,5 running 10.04 Lucid. This thing keeps getting ridiculously hot. What do?
[18:39] <Seppoz> http://pastebin.com/pBQQ5RJm
[18:39] <kbrosnan> Jemt: it is not a firefox setting
[18:39] <Seppoz> thats now it looks ActionParsnip
[18:39] <Seppoz> oh, the bashrc
[18:39] <Seppoz> sec
[18:39] <kbrosnan> Jemt: it is a customiztion that Ubuntu does
[18:39] <Jemt> kbrosnan: Sure it is. Check  about:config - Firefox pre-approves the apt:// protocol, so the user is never ask what application to use with this protocol
[18:40] <kbrosnan> Jemt: possibly they register with gonme http://kb.mozillazine.org/Register_protocol#All_Firefox_versions
[18:40] <kbrosnan> Jemt: trust me it is a Ubuntu customization
[18:40] <jrib> Jemt: if you look at your firefox extensions, you'll see an ubuntu-related extension.  I think that's where the apt:// support comes from.  The extension is just installed in some system-wide firefox folder
[18:40] <Jemt> kbrosnan: Yes, that's how I registered my own protocol. But Firefox asks the user what application to use the first time the protocol is used
[18:41] <Jemt> jrib: Okay, interesting. I'll look into that. Thank you :)
[18:41] <jrib> !info xul-ext-ubufox | Jemt, its description doesn't list the apt:// protocol though
[18:41] <Jemt> I found it. /etc/firefox/pref :)
[18:42] <Jemt> jrib: I think configuration is read from the directory I just mentioned :)
[18:42] <ZeMane> hello ppl
[18:42] <jrib> Jemt: yes
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> Seppoz: uncomment from line 31 to 34, save the new file and run: source ~/.bashrc  and it will be fine
[18:42] <jrib> Jemt: it's not related to the extension I mentioned
[18:43] <Jemt> jrib: Nope, doesn't seem that way. Thank you for your advice :)
[18:43] <Jemt> help, rather :)
[18:43] <ZeMane> anyone knows of a good aplication to copy music from the computer to an android phone?i mean,one that will organise the songs by artists and such
[18:43] <ZeMane> i'm using clementine but the sync stoped working
[18:43] <terry> ZeMane: Install file expert on the android phone
[18:43] <myradlife> How can I make a bootable usb from a dmg file? I would know how to do this on Mac DiskUtility, but not sure how this is possible in ubuntu
[18:44] <terry> ZeMane: And just put your mp3s in the music dir.
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> ZeMane: i transfer with nautilus but my files are pre-organized
[18:45] <terry> ZeMane: Fire up file expert and turn on webserver and ftp server and you have to options and you can upload files to any directory on the phone
[18:45] <ter0u>  /msg NickServ identify `12qaz`12
[18:45] <ZeMane> LOL
[18:46] <terry> *two not to
[18:46] <ZeMane> terry: i'll check that one,thanks
[18:46] <terry> ZeMane: Yea, it's a breeze.
[18:47] <terry> ZeMane: If you have wifi, just tell it to connect to your wifi (you probably already do that), and then just go to the IP address it gives you.  file expert is a free app.
[18:48] <ZeMane> terry: now THAT's a feature i wanna see ,i'm installing the thing now,hell yeah
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> ter0u: i suggest you change your password and in future identify in the lobby to avoid broadcasting like that
[18:49] <terry> ZeMane: That way you can share files with any computer you want, long as there is wifi network to connect to.
[18:50] <littlebearz> terry: nice, i personally use andftp and upload mine to a private ftp xd
[18:50] <ruan> hm.. is there a way i can transfer files over my wifi then?
[18:50] <littlebearz> ruan: dropbox i think would do
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> Terry: sounds unsecure if you auto connect to open networks and people start sniffing at your phone
[18:50] <ruan> littlebearz: would that work with windows as well?
[18:50] <terry> littlebearz: Yea,  I don't know about andftp but file expert works like a charm.
[18:51] <vanguard> I copied my firefox profile from Kubuntu, and now it looks pretty strange on ubuntu. How can I get it back to normal?
[18:51] <terry> ActionParsnip: You only turn it on when you want.
[18:51] <littlebearz> ruan: dropbox is started for windows in the beginning, but it's not open sourced I think
[18:51] <myradlife> Guys, any help with how to restore a dmg to a usb drive?
[18:51] <littlebearz> ruan: so if you want open sourced, get filezilla server for ftp and use any ftp client in your mobile device connect to local
[18:51] <ruan> ok
[18:52] <vanguard> myradlife: you mean a Mac OS dmg?
[18:52] <khomfy> hi. i have ubuntu with gnome and kubuntu installed on the same machine. i want to get rid of kubuntu but i cannot find anything in the package manager.
[18:52] <usuario__> hola
[18:52] <ruan> what speed will it transfer at?
[18:52] <littlebearz> myradlife:  that depends on how destroyed it is? try to see if yoan mount it?
[18:52] <terry> ActionParsnip: Obviously you would't just leave it running all the time.
[18:52] <khomfy> can someone help me?
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> Terry: andftp can connect to sftp if you run an openssh server
[18:52] <littlebearz> ruan: if it's wifi, it's around 200Kb/s locally and depending on your ISP for internet, it might be around 20kb/s internet with 2G
[18:53] <ruan> i had 600 kB/s locally, my ISP shares files
[18:53] <ruan> hmm. i wonder if they still give that
[18:54] <littlebearz> ruan: um. my own android 2.1 goes 1.3Mbps on local traffic, but i've only seen it couple times
[18:54] <lbdremy> hello
[18:54] <ruan> sadly my isp only shares files for windows :/
[18:54] <ruan> they used to have ubuntu isos on their servers
[18:55] <terry> khomfy: Here's how it works:  You ask a question.  Someone that knows something about your issue will answer.
[18:55] <juk> sacarlson: i removed that key, now after relogin, git poped up and asking for password
[18:55] <myradlife> vanguard, littlebearz I have a dmg image and I want to make that image on a usb disk. Yes it's a mac image. I am reinstalling my Mac, but I only have access to my ubuntu computer to do this.
[18:55] <khomfy> how can i uninstall kubuntu ?
[18:56] <lbdremy> hello guys, I don't understand why ubuntu logout without my authorization, do you know why ?
[18:56] <littlebearz> lbdremy: either security reason for screen lock etc
[18:56] <terry> !kubuntu >  khomfy
[18:56] <ruan> lbdremy: when does it logout?
[18:57] <maco> khomfy: in what way? as in, you want to stop using *buntu at all and go back to windows/osx?  then reinstall the OS you want. or do you mean just uninstall all the kde packages on an otherwise ubuntu system?
[18:57] <khomfy> no
[18:57] <terry> !kde | khomfy
[18:57] <khomfy> i have gnome and kde
[18:57] <lbdremy> sometimes without apparent reasons when I use chrome
[18:57] <khomfy> i want to get rid of kde
[18:57] <ukubuntu> Hi all which is the lightest ubuntu? I have xubuntu but is there a faster one? I have a geode processor and 512 Mb RAM? Cheers
[18:57] <IdleOne> !puregrnome | khomfy
[18:57] <Fandark> #premiere
[18:57] <IdleOne> !puregnome | khomfy
[18:57] <ruan> khomfy: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop ?
[18:58] <ruan> or above
[18:58] <terry> khomfy: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[18:58] <lbdremy> @ruan sometimes without apparent reasonw when I use chrome
[18:58] <littlebearz> khomfy: sudo apt-get remove kde
[18:58] <khomfy> i`ll try it
[18:58] <khomfy> thanks guys
[18:58] <littlebearz> khomfy: wait, copy theirs, mine might be wrong
[18:58] <IdleOne> ruan: that command will work partially, it leaves behind a lot of packages.
[18:58] <ruan> lbdremy: does it lock the screen?
[18:58] <DasEi> ukubuntu: could try minimal install with icewm or lubuntu
[18:59] <terry> khomfy: Needs to go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureGnome  and see what it says.
[18:59] <myradlife> littlebearz, see my last msg? sorry to pester!
[18:59] <DasEi> ukubuntu: expert install, then only install the soft you need
[18:59] <regeya> I've been trying out e17 on my netbook.  I'm surprised how fast it is, given that it's enlightenment ;-)
[19:00] <khomfy> nope
[19:00] <ukubuntu> Thanks DasEi, I guess taht can be done from just a usb stick and lan?
[19:00] <khomfy> it says that kubuntu was not found and therefore not removed
[19:00] <littlebearz> myradlife: I'm sorry xd? i'm on a school computer so don't have the log file
[19:00] <DasEi> ukubuntu: no, can do from all kinds, use alternate or (see:)
[19:00] <DasEi> !minimal
[19:00] <silverarrow> any wireless experts here?
[19:01] <myradlife> littlebearz,  I have a dmg image and I want to make that image on a usb disk. Yes it's a mac image. I am reinstalling my Mac, but I only have access to my ubuntu computer to do this.
[19:01] <silverarrow> I have a new USB wifi adaptor, and lubuntu will not detect it
[19:01] <ukubuntu> many thanks DasEi I will try it out, many many thanks
[19:01] <DasEi> ukubuntu: you choose to the beginning which mode you want to install, there choose minimal with no soft, so just get a commandline in first hands, tips :
[19:01] <terry> regeya: It is probably something like this:  Gnome is faster than KDE. enlightnement is faster than gnome.  xfce is faster than enlightenment.  fluxbox is faster than xfce  etc.etc.etc.
[19:01] <silverarrow> it is a new ralink card I think at least the internal parts
[19:01] <DasEi> !low memory
[19:01] <b1lly> does anyone know why ubuntu wont detect me external monitor? I have a laptop with HDMI output-> utilizes a HDMI to DVI converter cable that connects into the DVI port of my monitor
[19:02] <Holden> hello, someone with an amd processor, could tell me what's the value of: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_transition_latency ?
[19:02] <littlebearz> myradlife: um. I don't have a mac, so not sure how the image file could handle IO error, but I would say don't try to reinstall since it's damaged
[19:02] <littlebearz> myradlife: if it's under warantee then go to apple
[19:02] <regeya> terry: I think that's one of those "ymmv" things.  XFCE used to be faster for me, but nowadays...meh.
[19:02] <reliability> Is there a way how one can set the main screen (the one displaying the menu bar) in Administrator->Monitors when using dual head?
[19:02] <littlebearz> myradlife: or else ask ppl here for mac support :(
[19:02] <coz_> Holden,  if no one here knows switch to the #radeon channel
[19:02] <coz_> Holden,  nevermind
[19:03] <coz_> confusing amd with ati
[19:03] <enterneo> is it possible to forward X11 over two ssh sessions?
[19:03] <myradlife> littlebearz, nothing is damaged. I have to reinstall OSX on my harddrive, and I'm just trying to get the install image (which is .dmg) onto a usb stick (mounted as a bootable drive).
[19:03] <ruan> Holden: 28000
[19:03] <Holden> coz_, :)
[19:03] <DasEi> ukubuntu: http://www.google.de/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBkQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.com%2Fcommunity%2FInstallation%2FLowMemorySystems&ei=WPKITb6vOon4sgawt8WoDA&usg=AFQjCNG6NYd6BtzQJzL6XDdMShRyYfP6hA&sig2=bqUfKzVeZ73MwftxBigtzw
[19:03] <terry> regeya: I don't know what ymmv means but as I said:  "It is PORBABLY like this:"
[19:03] <DasEi> ups , tiny ..
[19:03] <Holden> ruan, thanks, what cpu?
[19:03] <regeya> hehe
[19:03] <regeya> we are in agreement terry
[19:03] <ruan> Holden: amd sempron 140
[19:04] <ukubuntu> Thank you DasEi ...work to do : )
[19:04] <Holden> ruan, hmm, ok. i have an old sempron but I get 107000... quite bigger
[19:04] <DasEi> ukubuntu: ask if  needed
[19:05] <ukubuntu> Many thanks
[19:05] <NCS_One> hi
[19:06] <geez> Howdy, just installed shorewall on my ubuntu 10.10 w/ the doco. where to invoke shorewall. looked in applications and system and nothing. is this command-line only?
[19:06] <rypervenche> How can I open a db4 file? I need to edit what's inside.
[19:06] <renga> someone can tell me if there are some optimizations that I can do to bind9 in ubuntu 10.04?
[19:06] <lbdremy> I don't understand why sometimes my ubuntu logout to my session without my authorization. Any ideas ?
[19:06] <NCS_One> I'm trying to install a package that says it depends of one other, but when I try to install tha later it says it depends on the former. what can I do?
[19:06] <terry> regeya: Some differences are small... kde and gnome are neck and neck almost.  over the years it's been back and forth which is faster and sometimes hard to tell... you can say the same of others as  you pare them up.
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> rypervenche: what sort of file is it?
[19:07] <ruan> NCS_One: what happens if you try to install both at once?
[19:07] <rypervenche> ActionParsnip: Berkeley DB (Hash, version 8, native byte-order)
[19:08] <NCS_One> ruan: I downloaded the deb packages, how do I install both at once?
[19:08] <lbdremy> I don't understand why sometimes my ubuntu logout to my session without my authorization. Any ideas ?
[19:08] <coz_> cd to location//   sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[19:09] <regeya> very true terry.  it's also weird how they sometimes switch main focus with each other.  kde used to be the one that was all about functionality, and gnome was focused on being as flexible as possible.
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> !info db4.8-util
[19:09] <regeya> but I'll leave the ot talk to someone else
[19:09] <IdleOne> NCS_One: what package are you trying to install?
[19:09] <coz_> NCS_One,    cd to the location of the .deb packages    then   sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[19:10] <NCS_One> IdleOne: lazarus
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> regeya: try lxde too. Its fast and functional. Great on laptops
[19:11] <agnaldo> alguem pode me dar uma dica, Instalei ubuntu dentro do windows, estando no ubuntu tenho q acessar a partição principal do windows, eu tento montar, mas nao tou conseguindo
[19:11] <Osmodivs> Eu soy Do Minas Gerasi
[19:12] <ruan> hmm. what language is that?
[19:12] <IdleOne> NCS_One: follow coz_ suggestion
[19:12] <regeya> ned #ubuntu
[19:12] <regeya> 13:59 < regeya> I've been trying out e17 on my netbook.  I'm surprised how fast it is, given that it's enlightenment  ;-)
[19:12] <NCS_One> coz_: thanks
[19:12] <regeya> 13:59 -!- AbhijitKane [~Abhijit@111.93.5.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
[19:12] <regeya> yeah, how do you tell the bot, um, is that portugues?
[19:13] <coz_> NCS_One,  if no other .deb packages are in that location ,, that command will install them in order of installation... at least that is what I have found
[19:13] <IdleOne> !pt | Osmodivs
[19:13] <ruan> pt is portugese factoid
[19:13] <terry> geez: I recommend ufw
[19:13] <terry> !ufs | geez
[19:14] <ruan> ^ufw
[19:14] <juk> !firewall
[19:14] <digirak> im consistently having this issue with ubuntu getting sluggish when i dont shut down for more than a couple of days
[19:15] <agnaldo> tranks!
[19:15] <digirak> my friend tells me it could be a memory leak
[19:15] <ruan> digirak: are there enough system resources?
[19:15] <meta_circular> added a new ACCEPT rule to iptables, it shows up when I do iptables -L, but when I nmap from another machine, it's showing that port is still not opened.  anything else I should be doing?
[19:15] <digirak> ruan: yes, u mean cpu usage?
[19:15] <ruan> digirak: check system monitor
[19:16] <ruan> cpu/ram
[19:16] <digirak> ruan: yes i believe so, but it still gets sluggish
[19:16] <terry> !ufw | geez
[19:16] <artistx> help
[19:16] <terry> I did a typo earlier...
[19:17] <digirak> ruan: how do i check for a leak here
[19:17] <artistx> and idea how to fix a install of digikam 1.9.0
[19:17] <ruan> digirak: in system monitor?
[19:17] <Alex--> When I close my laptop, it goes on stand-by. But when I open it again my screen is black.
[19:17] <digirak> ruan: yes
[19:17] <ruan> digirak: check resources tab
[19:17] <ruan> digirak: and processes
[19:17] <terry> digirak: top
[19:17] <ruan> top in a terminal also works, though system monitor is gui
[19:17] <rypervenche> ActionParsnip: So I should use db4.8-util?
[19:17] <zeroman> Ctrl+Alt+L doesn't lock my screen most of the time. Why is this?
[19:18] <lbdremy> I don't understand why sometimes my ubuntu logout to my session without my authorization. Any ideas ?
[19:18] <digirak> ruan: yes i see that but then how do i know this is a leak issue?
[19:18] <topaz1> hi
[19:18] <ruan> digirak: if there isn't much ram free
[19:18] <ruan> digirak: or an application is using too much ram
[19:18] <topaz1> i need some guidance on installing full KDE along with Ubuntu
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> rypervenche: sounds likely
[19:18] <topaz1> pm me pls
[19:18] <terry> !kde | topaz1
[19:18] <coz_> topaz1,   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[19:18] <ruan> topaz1: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-deskto
[19:18] <ruan> p
[19:19] <Alex--> When I close my laptop, it goes on stand-by. But when I open it again my screen is black.
[19:19] <digirak> Alex--: press any key
[19:19] <digirak> it will connect
[19:19] <terry> Alex--: What happens when you press the power button?
[19:19] <Alex--> digirak: nothing happens
[19:19] <terry> Alex--: What happens when you press the power button?
[19:19] <Alex--> terry: nothing
[19:19] <terry> Alex--: How much ram do you have?
[19:19] <Alex--> 1,2 gb
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> topaz1: install kubuntu-desktop and you can choose between at login
[19:20] <zeroman> I have a long list of problems with Ubuntu, anyone who is willing to help please pm me.
[19:20] <terry> Alex--: How big is your swap?
[19:20] <Alex--> how to find it?
[19:20] <terry> Alex--: sudo fdsik -l
[19:20] <coz_> zeroman,   it would be best to deal with those problems in here ;)
[19:20] <ruan> Alex--: gparted or sudo fdisk -l
[19:20] <terry> Alex--: free
[19:20] <desu> Alex--, does it suspend or does it hibernate?
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Alex--: what make and model is it?
[19:21] <tangiers> just stopping by
[19:21] <Alex--> what's the difference between suspend and hibernate desu ?
[19:21] <Alex--> ActionParsnip: packard bell easynote
[19:21] <Alex--> desu: ^
[19:21] <desu> Alex--, in suspend, stuff stays in your ram, and in hibernate it's written to hdd
[19:21] <erUSUL> Alex--: suspend to ram and suspend to disk ( hibernate )
[19:21] <desu> ^ what erUSUL said
[19:22] <Alex--> to ram
[19:22] <Alex--> i have dutch linux; it says: linux wisselgeheugen
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> Alex--: does it have any numbers or letters or is easynote as accurate as it gets?
[19:22] <digirak> ruan: could my problem be because i am suspending for too long a time?
[19:22] <terry> Alex--: What is wisselgeheugen ?
[19:22] <desu> Alex--, sometimes my ubuntu system takes a while to get back to a usable state after a wakeup. have you tried waiting a few minutes?
[19:23] <artistx>  Depends: libkabc4 (>=4:4.3.4) but it is not installable any idea how to fix this
[19:23] <ruan> digirak: maybe
[19:24] <digirak> should I start hibernating instead of suspending before I sleep?
[19:24] <Seven_Six_Two> I created a partition for grub when I installed, but it seems to be in the wrong place now that I've taken apart and reassembled... I moved the grub folder to the correct partition and fixed my fstab (using uuid this time!). Is there anything else I have to do before I reboot?
[19:24] <artistx>  Depends: libkabc4 (>=4:4.3.4) but it is not installable how do you fix it
[19:24] <digirak> before I hit the sack I mean
[19:24] <ruan> digirak: it'll be better for the ram i guess
[19:24] <rcmaehl> how do I sudo apt-get install a .tar.bz2 file (firefox 4, got it directly from the mozilla site)?
[19:25] <l3niwi3c> posiada ktoś desire?
[19:25] <Kimmen> you have to unpack it first
[19:25] <rcmaehl> ok
[19:25] <tangiers> bbak later
[19:25] <Seven_Six_Two> rcmaehl, you can't. a tar.bz is a compressed file. open with ark or similar
[19:25] <rcmaehl> but it's a package
[19:25] <zeroman> I'll start with a simple one then: Sometimes Ctrl+Alt+L will not lock my screen. It appears to be random and static with each boot. (Each time I boot, Ctrl+Alt+L will either work, or it won't)
[19:25] <ruan> rcmaehl: you can also install firefox 4 with the ppa
[19:25] <rcmaehl> ruan: is it ff4 final?
[19:25] <kbrosnan> rcmaehl: it is not an installer
[19:25] <ruan> rcmaehl: yes, firefox-stable
[19:25] <zeroman> This is on 10.10
[19:25] <Seven_Six_Two> rcmaehl, it may be a package inside, but it's not an ubuntu package
[19:26] <juk> !pl | l3niwi3c
[19:26] <rcmaehl> ruan: what is the ppa?
[19:26] <kbrosnan> rcmaehl: it is just an folder that you extract to your perfered location
[19:26] <ruan> rcmaehl: i'll get it
[19:26] <rcmaehl> ruan: thx
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> rcmaehl: use the mozilla ppa. Far easier. You cannot apt-get install archives
[19:26] <ruan> https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable
[19:26] <bin_bash> How do you wake ubuntu up from hibernation?
[19:26] <Alex---> I had connection problems
[19:27] <Alex---> I said: it was suspend (to ram)
[19:27] <rcmaehl> ruan: so sudo apt-add-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable ?
[19:27] <ruan> rcmaehl: yes
[19:27] <terry> Alex---:  Test your RAM
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> Can someone please make a ff4 factoid
[19:27] <ruan> yeeaah
[19:27] <Alex---> terry, why and how?
[19:27] <ruan> !ff4
[19:28] <artistx> so any ideas to get digikam installed
[19:28] <terry> Alex---: To see if you might have a bad chip.  Use memtest
[19:28] <zeroman> Anybody?
[19:28] <terry> Alex---: How much ram do you have?
[19:28] <DrDetroit> Hello
[19:28] <funch> hei
[19:29] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: you can request it yourself. « /msg ubottu ff4 is <reply>youre msg here »  but do not hold your breath waitibng for it to get anywhere ;P
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> ruan: its a bit more than that but one is needed so all the people wanting to see the hype can get it
[19:29] <DrDetroit> I have been using 10.04 LTS since about july 10 and it has worked fine
[19:29] <funch> got a quick question, is it possible to change /etc/fstab from 2'nd OS without chroot ?
[19:29] <Alex---> "<ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ff4"
[19:29] <terry> funch: Yes
[19:29] <DrDetroit> however after the last set of updates, my machine has begun to run extremely slow
[19:30] <funch> terry could you explain me a bit how ?
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> erUSUL: on my phone it'll take forever hence me asking. I know we can suggest them ;)
[19:30] <DrDetroit> I cant figure it out, I have run top and also ps aux to see what might be hogging resources but see nothing
[19:30] <Kimmen> DrDetroit: might be something else than CPU usage that slows your system down
[19:30] <Kimmen> such as interrupts or disk latency
[19:30] <DrDetroit> any idea what
[19:30] <DrDetroit> how can i find out
[19:31] <mithridates> I can't find firefox 4 on repositories! when will it be available?
[19:31] <DrDetroit> this was not happening before i did the last set of upgades
[19:31] <DrDetroit> its just really strange
[19:31] <terry> funch: Sure.  You can edit via terinal with the vi editor.  sudo vim /etc/fstab
[19:31] <_dreamy> "drm version too old to suport hyperZ " .. i get this error, whats drm first instance ? anyone helping?
[19:31] <Alex---> _dreamy, why not nano?
[19:31] <juk> !dick
[19:31] <rcmaehl> ruan: for the FF4 factiod: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:32] <rcmaehl> mithridates: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:32] <juk> wooops
[19:32] <IdleOne> juk: why are you trying to add unneeded factoids?
[19:32] <mithridates> rcmaehl: tnx
[19:32] <terry> funch: Open a terminal and type   vim /etc/fstab   (i for edit) make change(s)  Esc :  wq
[19:32] <funch> terry, but /etc/fstab is not available when the system is not booted ?
[19:32] <juk> IdleOne: uh, you saw that :/
[19:32] <_dreamy> Alex---: nano ? i should install that ?
[19:32] <IdleOne> juk: ops see almost everything yes
[19:32] <Kimmen> DrDetroit: begin with monitoring of cpu idle %
[19:32] <funch> i'm in OS nr1, need to change /etc/fstab from OS nr2
[19:33] <funch> for*
[19:33] <IdleOne> !scope > juk
[19:33] <GeekyAdam> hi all
[19:33] <rcmaehl> !ff4
[19:33] <funch> i'm in OS nr1, need to change /etc/fstab for OS nr2*
[19:33] <_dreamy> Alex---: whats drm ?
[19:33] <mithridates> rcmaehl: should I remove the old one by myself or it will replace that one?
[19:33] <Alex---> drm????
[19:33] <juk> IdleOne: ah, ok that learned me
[19:33] <rcmaehl> mithridates: it will replace the old one
[19:33] <Kimmen> 20% cpu usage does not always equal 80% idle
[19:33] <zeroman> Every time I unplug my laptop, it logs out and the computer completely locks up on 10.04. There is no way to get back into the desktop without rebooting. Why is this?
[19:33] <mithridates> great
[19:34] <Guest51247> hello all.i have a problem,seems that something is wrong with my phone since not ANY player can copy music to it's sdcard.i noticed that the mount point's name is weird,cŞH4,can that be the deal?
[19:34] <terry> funch: Let's go back to your original question.  "is it possible to change /etc/fstab from 2'nd OS without chroot?"  And my answer was yes.  Ok, let's go from there. (Your next question?)______________
[19:34] <GeekyAdam> looking for a simple command to copy my home directory to an external hdd. so far i've got cp -r * /mnt/external/ubuntubackup but it doesnt copy hidden files
[19:34] <Cube``> guys, how can i install FF4 the clean way on 10.10?
[19:34] <rcmaehl> Cube``: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:34] <AnthraxSSH>  Goodbye! :)
[19:35] <DrDetroit> Kimmen: I have used top to monitor that and cpu idle% will fluctuate
[19:35] <IndaGadafiDaVida> hello all.i have a problem,seems that something is wrong with my phone since not ANY player can copy music to it's sdcard.i noticed that the mount point's name is weird,cŞH4,can that be the deal?
[19:35] <terry> funch: Maybe you need to explain what "2'nd OS"  is.
[19:35] <funch> terry, I'm in OS nr1 and i need to change the /etc/fstab of another OS, lets call it OS nr2 and imo fstab aint created untill the OS nr2 is not booted or chroot'ed but i can't do neither of them but still need to change /etc/fstab
[19:35] <Alex---> rcmaehl, why isnt it in the software list?
[19:35] <rcmaehl> GeekyAdam: info cp
[19:35] <Alex---> firefox 4
[19:36] <rcmaehl> Alex---: idk
[19:36] <rypervenche> IndaGadafiDaVida: I've had a similar problem with my PSP. For some reason it's read-only on Ubuntu, but works fine on Windows. I have yet to find a solution. Mabe someone in here can help.
[19:36] <Alex---> when is it in it?
[19:36] <Kimmen> DrDetroit: itop can monitor interrupts, haven't tried it myself though
[19:36] <Cube``> rcmaehl: thanks
[19:36] <ruan> firefox 4 is in the https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable ppa
[19:36] <DrDetroit> between maybe 90% idle and 30% idle
[19:36] <IndaGadafiDaVida> yeah...it was working just fine yesterday though
[19:36] <rcmaehl> ruan: make a ff4 factiod plz
[19:36] <DrDetroit> bascially when this happens my load average jumps to close to 2.00 and my macnine slows horrible
[19:36] <Alex---> Lol, much windows games have system requirements: Windows XP or better. So I thought: Ubuntu is better than Windows
[19:37] <juk> is IE is dead???
[19:37] <DrDetroit> I think i Might regress 2 upgrades to see if it gboes away
[19:37] <GeekyAdam> rcmaehl: do you mean man cp? ive checked the cp man pages but didnt find anything on hidden files
[19:37] <zeroman> Wow, great support everyone. I think I'll go install XP Pro so I no longer have an OS that sucks.
[19:37] <rypervenche> I can't find a program to open my db4 file. Does anyone know how I can do it?
[19:37] <ruan> juk: IE is dying
[19:37] <Alex---> juk, who cares?
[19:37] <juk> ruan: i see
[19:37] <terry> funch: too many variables - do not understand your question.   Let me ask you this;  What is your naitive language?
[19:37] <Kimmen> DrDetroit: that's lots =)
[19:37] <funch> estonian :/ i'll try to explain it once more :D
[19:37] <DrDetroit> i know
[19:37] <Alex---> zeroman, good luck. I wish you luck with malware and virusses
[19:37] <mello> a non linux question, im trying to stream from my ubuntu pc to my ps3 the pc is weierd connectet to internet and the ps3 is connectet wireless, but my imac is wireless and it has no porblme streaming to the ps3. cant a weierd pc stream to a wirless console?
[19:38] <DrDetroit> but i dont know how to figure out what has gone different
[19:38] <DrDetroit> my ilde % was just down to 3%
[19:38] <Kimmen> DrDetroit: try itop
[19:39] <DrDetroit> ok
[19:39] <ninline> hehe
[19:39] <ninline> I friggin love ubuntu
[19:39] <Kimmen> swell
[19:39] <DrDetroit> hehe gotta install it first, back in a min
[19:40] <funch> terry, I got dualboot VM, OpenWrt + Ubuntu 10.04, I'm booted to OpenWrt and i need to change the /etc/fstab of the Ubuntu 10.04, but i can't boot to Ubuntu 10.04 neither use chroot at this moment, and /etc/fstab is not there if i just cd to Ubuntu 10.04 partition
[19:40] <rcmaehl> GeekyAdam: sudo cp -r --preserve=all * /mnt/external/ubuntubackup
[19:40] <rcmaehl> GeekyAdam: that might work
[19:41] <bin_bash> Okay, so, I have a MacBook Pro 5,5 running Ubuntu 10.04 and it gets hot.
[19:41] <bin_bash> what do
[19:41] <agent42> how do i add an additional  dropdown menu to the top panel? i tried adding a drawer, but it doesn't look/work like the eg the applications menu.
[19:41] <DrDetroit> Kimmen: I have installed itop, and it is running, what should i look for
[19:41] <GeekyAdam> rcmaehl: dont think that will copy hidden files
[19:42] <phoenixsampras> help! what is a good FTP server?
[19:42] <terry> funch: Maybe you have mounted the wrong partition.  Do you have separate partitions for /home and / ?
[19:42] <littlebearz> phoenixsampras:filezilla
[19:42] <funch> yes, got seperated partitions
[19:42] <terry> phoenixsampras: proftp is good but so is vsftpd
[19:42] <funch> but quite sure i mounted the right one
[19:42] <lbdremy> I don't understand why sometimes my ubuntu logout to my session without my authorization. Any ideas ?
[19:42] <terry> phoenixsampras: I prefer proftp
[19:43] <littlebearz> phoenixsampras: but I use proftpd and filezilla :)
[19:43] <bin_bash> filezilla is awesome
[19:44] <terry> phoxpsh: actually, it is proftpd not proftp and I think the package name now days is proftpd-basic
[19:44] <rcmaehl> GeekyAdam: tell me if any hidden files show up when you run sudo cp -v -r -i --preserve=all * /mnt/external/ubuntubackup | more
[19:45] <quiescens> GeekyAdam: you could use something like 'cp -a . /mnt/external/ubuntubackup' or 'cp -a /home/$USER /mnt/external/ubuntubackup'
[19:45] <terry> phoxpsh: Sorry wrong nick
[19:45] <b1lly> does anyone know why ubuntu wont detect me external monitor? I have a laptop with HDMI output-> utilizes a HDMI to DVI converter cable that connects into the DVI port of my monitor
[19:46] <funch> terry, it seems to me that, fstab is temporary file only created when the Ubuntu is booted or active with chroot, was hoping there is some bypass that i could change it somehow
[19:46] <dbugger> Hello fellow Ubuntuers. I just installed Maverick and Im loving its speed but I cant hear the awesomeness of my music through my bad ass speakers. May one of you gentlemen guide me through the process of enabling them?
[19:46] <terry> funch: Well, you must have just gone to the wrong one.  Try another partition.
[19:46] <quiescens> GeekyAdam: as you might have guessed, * doesn't expand to include .files by default, its not a cp option that you're missing, your shell just isn't including the .(whatever) files when it expands the *
[19:46] <DrDetroit> Kimmen: I have installed itop, and it is running, what should i look for
[19:46] <GeekyAdam> trying to copy whole directory instead of all files... cp -vr /home/<me> /mnt/external/
[19:46] <IdleOne> !sound | dbugger
[19:46] <terry> funch: No, /etc/fstab is a perminate file.
[19:46] <rcmaehl> O_O wow ff4 is nice
[19:47] <dbugger> IdleOne, thank you for you help, you kind gentleman
[19:48] <IdleOne> dbugger: sure thing.
[19:48] <rcmaehl> I might switch back to ff4 from chromium
[19:48] <terry> *permanent
[19:48] <Alex---> zeroman, are you there?
[19:50] <terry> Alex---: free > info ; fdisk -l >> info ; pastebinit info ; rm info
[19:50] <dbugger> IdleOne, those pages seem more targeted to those who can't hear any sound at all, while my problem lies within the realm of external speakers. May I get more oriented help, or another useful link?
[19:50] <terry> Alex---: And send us URL.
[19:50] <littlebearz> terry: wow, pastebinit is now a default method?
[19:50] <terry> Alex---: free > info ; sudo fdisk -l >> info ; pastebinit info ; rm info   #Send us resulting URL.
[19:50] <kowboits> доброго времени суток!
[19:51] <IdleOne> dbugger: run alsamixer from terminal and check your Master levels
[19:51] <[segfault]> !ru | kowboits
[19:51] <kowboits> можно как чайнику попросить помощи?:)
[19:51] <terry> littlebearz: I don't know about defualt...?  Is there a better way?
[19:51] <dbugger> IdleOne, they are in order, at 100%
[19:51] <littlebearz> terry: copy and paste xd? via GUI?
[19:51] <_3st_> http://hirnblaehung.de.vu/
[19:52] <terry> littlebearz: what is xd?
[19:52] <DrDetroit> Kimmen: sorry, I got locked up it got so slow
[19:52] <IdleOne> dbugger: hmm so you get sound but it is very low? check at the hardware level. make sure everything is plugged in and turned up
[19:53] <dbugger> I get sound perfectly on my laptop. I just connect my speakers or my headset and I sound keep coming out of the laptop, and none out of the connected device.
[19:53] <terry> littlebearz:  Well, how would you do it?
[19:53] <IdleOne> dbugger: ok, go back to the sound prefs and make sure the correct device is selected in the output tab.
[19:54] <IdleOne> dbugger: aside from that I am at a loss
[19:54] <funch> terry, tnx :D seems that it was just hidden somehow, since it didnt show it to me with tabbing:D and i made stupid presumption
[19:54] <dbugger> In the output tab I only see one option: Internal Audio Analog Stereo
[19:54] <xormor> how do I remove old Linux kernel?
[19:54] <kowboits> тт
[19:55] <DavidGuetta> Hello
[19:55] <erUSUL> xormor: i find synaptic to be the easiest way
[19:55] <_UsUrPeR_> what's wrong?
[19:55] <terry> littlebearz: Method is: Open a gui terminal, paste following text in: free > info ; sudo fdisk -l >> info ; pastebinit info ; rm info   #Hit enter #Send resulting URL.
[19:55] <gaara> alguna persona que hable español, para que me enseñe algunas cosas de xubuntu¿¿
[19:55] <erUSUL> !es | gaara
[19:55] <DavidGuetta> I have a problem
[19:55] <Alex---> who can help me?
[19:55] <bastidrazor> xormor: search for linux-image in synaptic and uninstall the older kernels
[19:55] <Alex---> i want to install something in wine from cd
[19:55] <xormor> erUSUL: how do I do it with the commandline?
[19:56] <Alex---> but it says: The file '/media/cd1/Setup.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied form an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.
[19:56] <Alex---> the executable link says: You should only mark a file as executable via the file permissions if you know what you are doing.
[19:56] <terry> Alex---: Open a gui terminal, paste following text in: free > info ; sudo fdisk -l >> info ; pastebinit info ; rm info   #Hit enter #Send resulting URL (copy&paste resulting URL here).
[19:56] <bhauff> How would I automatically start a program, running under a user (not root), on reboot/startup?
[19:56] <_UsUrPeR_> Alex---: so you are running it in the shell as "einw setup.exe"?
[19:56] <Alex---> but when i do that it says: De rechten konden niet gewijzigd worden. Kon de rechten van ‘Setup.exe’ niet wijzigen: Fout bij instellen toegangsrechten: Bestandssysteem is alleen-lezen
[19:56] <_UsUrPeR_> Alex---: err "wine setup.exe"
[19:56] <rcmaehl> Alex---: sudo chmod +x /media/cd1/Setup.exe
[19:57] <erUSUL> xormor: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-blah-blah-version-blah
[19:57] <_UsUrPeR_> Alex---: you can't just run a .exe in ubuntu. That's why you install wine. You can't change the executable bit on a CD because it's write-protected
[19:57] <dryicebomb> Alex---: try copying the files from the cd to a local folder
[19:59] <afernandez> Hello, I want to know if it's possible to run again the "post-install scripts" (I don't know what is the name of those programs or scripts)  to reset all the changes that I made....
[19:59] <DrDetroit> Kimmen : I have rebooted to make it run faster and have also regressed back 2 upgrades
[19:59] <DrDetroit> I guess that is the only thing i can think of to try
[19:59] <DrDetroit> I sure appreciate your help
[19:59] <DrDetroit> thanks
[20:01] <amont> ada ga dari indonesia di sini
[20:02] <Griob> is there any channels that do networking help, or should i ask here?
[20:02] <arand> !indonesia | amont
[20:02] <IdleOne> Griob: #networking
[20:03] <terry> Griob: YOu can ask here.
[20:04] <amont> sepi diroom #ubuntu-id
[20:04] <erUSUL> !id
[20:04] <amont> arand: apa kabar
[20:05] <amont> #ubuntu-id sepi
[20:05] <juk> amont: /j #ubuntu-id (copy) ==> (paste) ==> <Enter>
[20:05] <patrickw_> Is there a need to wait for changes to propagate after repartitioning a drive?  And if so, how do I know when it's safe to continue?
[20:06] <Guest16481> join #athens
[20:06] <terry> patrickw_: It depends on how you did it, with which tool.  Make sure it is finish for sure before you do something else.
[20:07] <terry> patrickw_: Did you use gparted?
[20:07] <patrickw_> terry:  parted
[20:07] <MeanEYE> evening everyone
[20:08] <terry> patrickw_: Have you saved changes and closed parted ?
[20:08] <terry> patrickw_: If so, it is probably safe to continue.
[20:08] <patrickw_> terry: and then I partprobe, and resize2fs... but when I try to mount I get a "no special device" error...  which is strange beacause resize2fs works.  This is all scripted  parted -s -- foo... running in vms at boot.  and I run partprobe after all the parted to be sure
[20:09] <rypervenche> Does anyone in here happen to know how to open a db4 file?
[20:09] <geez> quit
[20:09] <MeanEYE> rypervenche: filext.com should tell you available programs to do that
[20:09] <Kroms> Hi
[20:09] <Kroms> Can the dd if= backup command run while the system is running?
[20:10] <terry> Kroms: Yes.
[20:10] <patrickw_> terry:  very simple script, but it fails at the mount..  shoudl I just retry a couple times?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/583960/
[20:10] <Griob> I have a server that i gave a static ip address in /etc/networking/interfaces. Now it doesnt broadcast its hostname to the router (im in a home network). How can i broadcast the hostname and still have a static ip?
[20:11] <Kroms> terry, so while the box is running I can run it and it will create a image of the system I am using?  If yes, can I automate the process?  I'm looking to create a fully automated process that might delete old ones if reaching a certain date.
[20:11] <MeanEYE> Griob: hostnames are resolved with DNS, you can however make local alias to any ip address
[20:11] <mroova81> haha
[20:11] <zatan> Hi, how Can I take back root privileges from folder ?
[20:12] <MeanEYE> zatan: you mean change owner or ?
[20:12] <Xethron> Hello
[20:12] <Guest36692> no to nie zabawne
[20:12] <zatan> MeanEYE, sorry , yeah change the owner :)
[20:12] <MeanEYE> chown ! zatan
[20:12] <Griob> within a home network my router acts as a DNS server correct?
[20:12] <MeanEYE> chown | zatan
[20:12] <MeanEYE> !chown | zatan
[20:12] <MeanEYE> great :D 3rd charm
[20:12] <zatan> MeanEYE,  thanks :)
[20:13] <MeanEYE> zatan: no problem :D
[20:13] <erUSUL> Griob: not a must; it can act as caching dns or not
[20:13] <terry> Kroms: One way is something like this:   gzip < /dev/sda > mybackup.img.gz
[20:13] <MeanEYE> zatan: basically sudo chown user:user folder
[20:13] <MeanEYE> Griob: not really. DNS is a separate service.
[20:14] <Griob> erUSUL: can i have a separate server on my network act as local DNS?
[20:14] <Kroms> terry, That would work if I wanted to create some type of cronjob for nightly/weekly backups?
[20:14] <zatan> MeanEYE,  still doesnt work I dont understand whi my bloody (ubuntu one) folder with a locker .. ;/
[20:14] <erUSUL> Griob: i guess you could but i do not think it is worth it... what problem are you trying to solve?
[20:14] <terry> Kroms: If you want to just do one partition:  gzip -d < image.gz | dd of=/dev/sda2
[20:14] <xormor> how do I free up more space on /?
[20:15] <MeanEYE> zatan: can you please explain what you did and what you want to do
[20:15] <bastidrazor> xormor: sudo apt-get clean ..:this will clean out any downloaded packages you've installed during updates
[20:16] <terry> Kroms: If you want to send to another machine across your network:  dd if=/dev/sda | ssh $user@$host 'gzip - > /pub/image.gz'
[20:16] <MrBushido> i'm running ubuntu desktop with 2 monitors and when i maximise a flash video (e.g. youtube) it maximises to the primary display rather than the window the browser is on. Anybody know how to fix this? (Follow up question for extra love points is is there any way to force maximised videos to remain maximised while i work on another screen)
[20:16] <xormor> bastidrazor: what other commands?
[20:16] <pytkoko> Cześć ;]
[20:16] <terry> Kroms: And sure you can do it in a cron job.  There are lots of options.
[20:16] <Griob> erUSUL im just trying to have my machines hostname be known. when i use DHCP it is, but not using a static ip
[20:16] <xormor> bastidrazor: thank you for your tip, but I think bleachbit already ran that on my system.
[20:17] <zatan> MeanEYE,  please can you look at this : http://i.imgur.com/v88U5.png   , as you can see there is locker on UBUNTU ONE folder How can i take that locker out?:)
[20:17] <MeanEYE> MrBushido: not spaning to both screens is flash problem and as you know flash is not oss. keeping it maximized is also a no go... it drives me crazy as well
[20:17] <dbugger> Hello fellow Ubuntuers. I just installed Maverick and Im loving its speed but I cant hear the awesomeness of my music through my bad ass speakers. May one of you gentlemen guide me through the process of enabling them?
[20:17] <mickster04> dbugger: nicely put :D
[20:17] <MeanEYE> yeah
[20:17] <IdleOne> dbugger: would appreciate it if you kept the language clean and family friendly.
[20:17] <erUSUL> Griob: for a home network you can use avahi provided hostname.local or use the file /etc/hosts
[20:18] <terry> Kroms: i.e.  dd if=/dev/sda2 | ssh Kroms@192.168.1.7 'gzip - > /home/Krmos/backups/image.gz
[20:18] <mickster04> dbugger: IdleOne has a point, there is only one s in 'as'
[20:18] <MeanEYE> zatan: oh, lack of write permissions also make that "lock" thingy appear...
[20:18] <terry> Kroms: i.e.  dd if=/dev/sda2 | ssh Kroms@192.168.1.7 'gzip - > /home/Krmos/backups/image.gz'  #forgot the (') at the end.
[20:18] <mickster04> dbugger: also, there may be women in this chan that may have been able to help you... :/
[20:18] <charlos> hello all
[20:19] <charlos> can to help me please
[20:19] <charlos> I am never trined on Ubuntu
[20:19] <MrBushido> MeanEYE: okies thanks, are there any alternatives with good enough support to do flash vids but is actually useful?
[20:19] <charlos> so I have PlayOnLinux but how to make unistall on Itunes ?
[20:19] <MeanEYE> dbugger: what they are trying to say... give some more details about hardware
[20:19] <dbugger> mickster04, not sure what you try to imply with that comment
[20:19] <bastidrazor> xormor: you could clean out your log directory.. /var/log
[20:19] <MeanEYE> MrBushido: which videos are you trying to play, youtube/
[20:20] <bastidrazor> xormor: i think bleachbit may do that also
[20:20] <dbugger> mean, that was clearer, thanks.
[20:20] <MrBushido> MeanEYE: pretty much, blip.tv and gomtv.net as well
[20:20] <mickster04> dbugger: well you asked for the help of gentlemen, thus excludind any females
[20:20] <maheanuu> I am having a problem in Ubuntu 10.10 after minimizing a file or webpage, I cannot maximize the file and find the only way to get out of the situation is to shut down or do a reboot
[20:20] <charlos> what do you say ?
[20:20] <kowboits> invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/samba not found.
[20:20] <mickster04> charlos: what have you tried?
[20:20] <dbugger> well, of course ladies are welcome to join the discussion. Thats ommited due to obviousness :)
[20:20] <MeanEYE> MrBushido: if it's youtube... check application named minitube... that application plays video without flash (uses mp4) and you can do whatever you want with that window :)
[20:20] <kowboits> may sombody halp? )
[20:20] <mickster04> dbugger: good save :p
[20:21] <mickster04> kowboits: try smb instead of samba?
[20:21] <dbugger> Im not sure I know what king of hardware im using, MeanEYE . How could I find out?
[20:21] <MrBushido> MeanEYE: awesome, many thanks!
[20:21] <dbugger> mickster04, thank you
[20:21] <dagon666> MeanEYE: whatever..., you say :)
[20:21] <MeanEYE> MrBushido: no problems... also make sure you install newest version from their repository
[20:21] <terry> maheanuu: Are you talking about using firefox?  Or the file manager?  Or..?
[20:21] <MeanEYE> dagon666: sorry?! :D
[20:21] <[dlp]> Hey. Does anyone know how soon after release GNOME 3 will be in Ubuntu?
[20:22] <LorgonJortle> Hey everyone.
[20:22] <dbugger> MeanEYE, as you can see, I'm not an expert on the linux domains
[20:22] <MeanEYE> [dlp]: to my knowledge natty will ship with gnome3 in repositories
[20:23] <benzap> Hello, i've been having a slight issue with ubuntu that has been reoccuring for sometime now
[20:23] <MeanEYE> dbugger: so you just want to address your machine using its name and not ip address?
[20:23] <Krycek> hi
[20:23] <maheanuu> Yes I am using firefox and other things that are minimized appear as icons on the top bar but when I click them I see a small stutter in the presentation so I know that it is trying to max the file or foldr but nothing happens
[20:23] <MeanEYE> benzap: :D ask a question :D don't ask about asking :P
[20:23] <[dlp]> When
[20:23] <dagon666> benzap: and what is that exactly ?
[20:23] <benzap> for some reason, my xorg session on occasion will lock up, and i'm unable to use my mouse
[20:23] <[dlp]> sorry...
[20:23] <dbugger> MeanEYE, Im not sure what does has to do with the Audio card
[20:23] <[dlp]> When's natty released?
[20:23] <IdleOne> !natty
[20:23] <kowboits> mickster04, i try to open folder for WIN users whithout indentification - for everyone
[20:23] <MeanEYE> [dlp]: natty will be released on april 28th
[20:24] <dagon666> benzap: are you able to go back to the console (alt + FX) ?
[20:24] <mikc> Hi all, is 1080p Full Hd playback supported on the OMAP4 Pandaboard?
[20:24] <MeanEYE> dbugger: audio card, oh, sorry :D ... am loosing track... am no expert with audio hardware
[20:24] <MeanEYE> dbugger: what card did you sah you had?
[20:24] <MeanEYE> say*
[20:24] <dbugger> I dont know. How can I find out?
[20:24] <[dlp]> Can I get away with just changing /etc/apt/sources.list to upgrade?
[20:24] <benzap> dagon666: i can do everything else just fine (it's occuring right now as we speeak
[20:24] <mickster04> kowboits: well have you edited the config yourself? or did you just right-click a folder?
[20:24] <LorgonJortle> After reinstalling grub, I was only getting a black screen upon boot (no command line). So I fiddled around with grub and reinstalled it a couple of time, and now I get a grub prompt when I boot, but no OS options. So, knowing my kernel name, I tried booting up Ubuntu from grub with 'root', 'kernel', and 'initrd' It got pretty far, but then stopped at initramfs, and I din't know what to do. How can I get grub working again, or how can
[20:24] <LorgonJortle>  I get into my Ubuntu system? I'm on a live CD.
[20:24] <MeanEYE> dbugger: lspci should say more
[20:25] <benzap> i just end up using keybaord shortcuts etc
[20:25] <benzap> but the mouse is completely frozen
[20:25] <benzap> i can move ti around
[20:25] <maheanuu> After a reboot I get a dozen or so pages that open and then minimize again very dquickly so I know that there is a lot of crap hidden on the desktop or behind it
[20:25] <dagon666> so it is only a problem of a mouse ?
[20:25] <benzap> but the pointer looks like a text header
[20:25] <dbugger> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[20:25] <ganges> hi peeps, i am trying to build ubuntu packages, man its hard work
[20:25] <ganges> i am pretty sure its going to be an easier way to do that
[20:25] <MeanEYE> [dlp]: hm, you mean before natty is released, and please write a name of person you are addressing... it's hard to track
[20:25] <dagon666> benzap: does reconnecting the mouse, helps ?
[20:25] <thesheff17> does anyone know why thunderbird won't play a wav file when an email is heard.
[20:25] <benzap> hmm, i'll try turning it off and on again ;)
[20:26] <IdleOne> ganges: #ubuntu-packaging can help/guide you
[20:26] <thesheff17> is received I mean
[20:26] <dbugger> MeanEYE,  00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[20:26] <MeanEYE> dbugger: now :D ask a question with that information included
[20:26] <kowboits> mickster04, first - right-click, after try to use system-config-samba witht grath interfase...
[20:26] <ganges> IdleOne, ah cool
[20:26] <ganges> thanks
[20:26] <IdleOne> welcome
[20:26] <maheanuu> terry, I hope that you managed to follow, as I didn't write my answer to you
[20:26] <LorgonJortle> After reinstalling grub, I was only getting a black screen upon boot (no command line). So I fiddled around with grub and reinstalled it a couple of time, and now I get a grub prompt when I boot, but no OS options. So, knowing my kernel name, I tried booting up Ubuntu from grub with 'root', 'kernel', and 'initrd' It got pretty far, but then stopped at initramfs, and I din't know what to do. How can I get grub working again, or how can
[20:27] <LorgonJortle> I get into my Ubuntu system??
[20:27] <maheanuu> Should I be in a newbie forum...
[20:27] <MeanEYE> dbugger: I'd like to help but as I said, audio hardware is not my speciality
[20:27] <mickster04> kowboits: uhm, and what happens? as it what is wrong, and what folder are you sharing and where is it
[20:27] <dagon666> benzap: sounds like a typical solution from "IT Crowd" :) (hope you follow)
[20:27] <dbugger> Ok, obviously a little humour is not how they roll here... so I'll try the usual boring way...
[20:28] <a931bw> Who can help me with php?
[20:28] <MeanEYE> dbugger: humor is not the problem, but this place gets chaotic easily so people are just trying to be practical and help as much as they can
[20:28] <dbugger> Hey, my speakers dont make any sound when I connect them to the laptop. What could be wrong? My card is a Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family)
[20:28] <dagon666> a931bw: #php
[20:28] <LorgonJortle> a931bw: #PHP
[20:28] <MeanEYE> a931bw: come to my private chat, this is not the place for that
[20:29] <dbugger> MeanEYE, I understand. But saying that would have been more practical than mocking me.
[20:29] <benzap> dagon666: i sure do lol\
[20:29] <a931bw> #php was full
[20:29] <a931bw> just got in
[20:29] <a931bw> thanks guys
[20:29] <MeanEYE> dbugger: that I can not say :)
[20:29] <MeanEYE> dbugger: but if you ask a direct question chances are someone will answer or at least try to help
[20:30] <dbugger> Doesnt seem like that's the case today.
[20:30] <dbugger> Windows will have to do tonight
[20:30] <kowboits> mickster04, no access to folder without my login and pass from linux device, and no any access from WIN device... GUI program "sad" after my try to share folder "invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/samba not found."
[20:31] <terry> Kroms: Still there...?
[20:31] <MeanEYE> Can someone help dbugger with Intel audio card???
[20:31] <celthunder> MeanEYE, what's wrong with it?
[20:31] <terry> Kroms: I made a mistake a wile back.  Let me correct it...
[20:31] <MeanEYE> dbugger: explain to celthunder what's the problem with your audio
[20:31] <juk> !repeat | dbugger MeanEYE
[20:31] <dbugger> celthunder, when i connect the speakers, they dont work
[20:32] <celthunder> dbugger, did you check in alsa if they're muted?
[20:32] <terry> Kroms: See:  http://pastebin.com/abMNsDQs
[20:32] <dbugger> Yes, they are not muted
[20:32] <ganges> ok the packaging channel seems pretty empty
[20:32] <ganges> anyone here got experience iwht building a custom ubuntu package?
[20:32] <dbugger> celthunder, yes, they are not muted
[20:32] <zcserei> hi everyone. i was trying to install ruby 1.9 from the ruby1.9.1 package, and the ruby1.9.1 -v command returns the version as ruby 1.9.2p0 - exactly what I expected. however, "ruby -v" still returns ruby 1.8.7 (I had ruby 1.8 previously installed). I'm on ubuntu 10.10. How can I make ruby1.9 default?
[20:33] <dryicebomb> anyone have any luck getting sound to record on ubuntu 10.10 with xvidcap ?
[20:33] <celthunder> dbugger, ok which intel card do you have
[20:33] <Ap0c-M4n> Is it possible to have a user group be a member of another group?
[20:33] <dbugger> celthunder,  Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family)
[20:33] <MeanEYE> ganges: one moment please
[20:33] <mickster04> kowboits: go into terminal and type sudo apt-pget isntall samba[tab] (as in press the tab key)
[20:33] <popey> dryicebomb: try kazam?
[20:34] <MeanEYE> ganges: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=910717
[20:34] <IdleOne> ganges: have you had a look at the packaging guide?
[20:34] <kieppie1> hi guys. I'm trying to install FF4 from the PPA, but it's just not showing
[20:34] <MeanEYE> kieppie1: did you add ppa?
[20:34] <kieppie1> MeanEYE: yip. the stable
[20:34] <kieppie1> & updated repo
[20:34] <MeanEYE> kieppie1: did you update before trying to install it?
[20:34] <IdleOne> kieppie1: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:34] <dryicebomb> popey: i haven't, i'll check it out, thanks.
[20:34] <kieppie1> yip
[20:35] <kieppie1> lucid 10.4
[20:35] <terry> Ap0c-M4n: Yes
[20:35] <H3r0> why have not firefox 4 been updated in ubuntu ?!?!?
[20:35] <celthunder> dbugger, what're you using to play audio
[20:35] <Ap0c-M4n> terry: How?
[20:35] <IdleOne> !stable | H3r0
[20:35] <terry> H3r0: It will be in 10.10
[20:35] <Fuchs> H3r0: due to the fact that ubuntu usually doesn't update to new major versions during a release cycle.
[20:35] <ganges> MeanEYE, IdleOne thanks! i have, but creating the control file and the rules are very complicated
[20:35] <H3r0> :O
[20:35] <dbugger> youtube, videos, rythmbox, nothing works
[20:35] <H3r0> do far :(
[20:35] <kowboits> mickster04, nothing happened...
[20:36] <IdleOne> H3r0: it was also just released this morning. takes time for new packages to be added
[20:36] <MeanEYE> ganges: that thread should help you initially...
[20:36] <terry> Ap0c-M4n: Just put the name on the line following the ,
[20:36] <dbugger> celthunder, the laptop speakrs work, but the external spakers or the headphones dont
[20:36] <ganges> discovering BuildDepends is complicated
[20:36] <H3r0> IdleOne - nope I mean can I use a ppa or something like this
[20:36] <Ap0c-M4n> terry: The group name?
[20:36] <H3r0> ?
[20:36] <ganges> and then trying to configure the rules file as well
[20:36] <terry> Ap0c-M4n: Manually edit /etc/group
[20:36] <Ap0c-M4n> terry: To verify im trying to have GROUPA's users be a member of GROUPB without adding each user to GROUPA
[20:36] <IdleOne> H3r0: To install it, add the PPA repository "https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable", then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:37] <Ap0c-M4n> terry: *from GROUPA
[20:37] <terry> Ap0c-M4n: I'm pretty sure it works, just try and see.
[20:37] <kieppie1> IdleOne: H3r0: I've done that (followed OMG post), but it's simply not showing up yet
[20:37] <Ap0c-M4n> terry: Have with no success...
[20:38] <terry> Ap0c-M4n: Oh?  I could have sworn it would work.
[20:38] <IdleOne> kieppie1: it will be in Applications > Internet > Firefox Web Browser
[20:38] <Ap0c-M4n> terry: How would it difrenciate between users and groups?
[20:39] <terry> Ap0c-M4n: I don't know to tell the truth.  Are you sure it didn't work.  You know you have to log that user out and back in again before you can tell....
[20:40] <terry> Ap0c-M4n: But now, wouldn't you be better off to just use shared directories?  (Not sure what you're trying to accomlish but....)
[20:41] <Ap0c-M4n> terry: Im trying to accomplish setting up an SVN repository but having multiple groups have different access to it
[20:42] <terry> Ap0c-M4n: Well, I don't know for sure.  Sorry. Would just have to experiment.
[20:42] <kyle___> anyone know whey when i watch flash (Youtube) full screen the video stops (ubuntu 10.10)
[20:42] <Ap0c-M4n> terry: Thanks ill keep trying!
[20:43] <kv102t> anyone know whey when i watch flash (Youtube) full screen the video stops (ubuntu 10.10) ?
[20:43] <terry> kyle___: It gets really tired when you make it that big.  It has to rest :D
[20:43] <BlackCoffee> i have a question,is cŞH4 a correct mount point name for an external device,such as an android phone¿
[20:43] <kv102t> terry: Ok, how do I let it rest
[20:43] <kv102t> terry: JOKING!
[20:44] <terry> kv102t: Try prozak
[20:44] <MeanEYE> kv102t: which video card?
[20:44] <BlackCoffee> terry: are you the same terry who told me to install file expert?i installed it but don't know what to do now :\
[20:45] <kv102t> MeanEYE: how can I get from system. - 10.4 was OK
[20:45] <terry> BlackCoffee: Yes, that's me.  Just turt it on, click on httpd and ftp  and it gives you instructions how to connect. (a window comes up and tells  you the IP and port numbers)
[20:45] <MeanEYE> kv102t: lspci I guess
[20:46] <earthmeLon> Where is new FF in repos!?!?
[20:46] <MeanEYE> earthmeLon: you need to add new repository
[20:46] <terry> BlackCoffee: When you click either of those icons again, it turns the server off.
[20:46] <blahsphemer> the /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug in my ubuntu is empty. Shouldn't it be holding the path to the hotplug program?
[20:46] <widi> siema
[20:46] <earthmeLon> MeanEYE, You think this will be good? https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable
[20:46] <BlackCoffee> ok i see a "network" tab on top
[20:46] <roasted__> Hey guys. Having an issue with Java. It's regarding a few things with openjdk-6. I'm not sure what to do with it????
[20:46] <BlackCoffee> ah on the local tab you mean
[20:47] <camilo> is it OK to see DHCPREQUEST of <null address> in daemon.log ? I'm having some DNS timeout issues and I'm not sure if that might be related
[20:47] <MeanEYE> earthmeLon: yes, after that do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade and you should be good
[20:47] <kv102t> MeanEYE: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[20:47] <terry> BlackCoffee: Let me get my phone
[20:47] <BlackCoffee> cool
[20:47] <MeanEYE> kv102t: do you know which version of flash you have installed? does flash always blocks in fullscreen or only in some applications
[20:48] <earthmeLon> Thanks MeanEYE
[20:48] <MeanEYE> earthmeLon: np
[20:48] <DrDetroit> hello again
[20:48] <terry> BlackCoffee: you see at the bottom?  where it says HTTP ?
[20:48] <jermyj> sup homies
[20:48] <Okurwieniec> its possible to have debian Wasp theme in ubuntu?
[20:48] <DrDetroit> I have been having problems with my Ubuntu 10,04 LTS running extreamly slow since my last two updates
[20:48] <roasted__> guys. problems. java. it doesnt tell me what to do in terminal?
[20:48] <terry> BlackCoffee: Hit HTTP  and see what comes up.
[20:48] <DrDetroit> I have regressed backwards 2 updates and all seems to be well
[20:48] <kv102t> MeanEYE: It took me to the flash wetsite the other day for donload. (clean install) so latiest...  So far it looks to be everything
[20:48] <BlackCoffee> it's giving me some ip and passwords
[20:49] <DrDetroit> has anyone else experienced this problem?
[20:49] <dbugger> celthunder?
[20:49] <terry> DrDetroit: Yes, you use the URL in your browser window on your PC.  For http it will be 192.168.1.x:8080   for http
[20:49] <pigdude> anyone know of a terminal wrapper like screen that makes it easy to enter international/other chars?
[20:49] <pigdude> like upside down exclamation pt
[20:50] <pigdude> im inspired by screen's digraph command
[20:50] <terry> DrDetroit: For ftp it will be   ftp://192.168.1.x:2211
[20:50] <DrDetroit> terry: i dont understand
[20:50] <terry> DrDetroit: Something like that and for ftp you have to give username and password, as stated.
[20:51] <DrDetroit> the issue is there even if i am running just a terminal window
[20:51] <terry> DrDetroit: see my private message...
[20:51] <DrDetroit> it has nothing to do with browsing or ftp or any single isshe
[20:51] <roasted__> Problem - I'm in an Ubuntu server at the moment in terminal. It's a thin client terminal server. It's having a problem with java. I have no idea what, as it keeps coming back in terminal saying E: Broken Packages. How can I Remove it and re-add it properly?
[20:51] <Wicked> whats the latest iso for natty? alpha3? or has it gone beta yet?
[20:51] <Wicked> !natty
[20:51] <kv102t> MeanEYE: just tried Movie Player and i get a error: GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error
[20:52] <kv102t> a
[20:52] <kv102t> s
[20:52] <kv102t> d
[20:52] <BlackCoffee> terry: you are a world hero!
[20:52] <Okurwieniec> its possible to have debian Wasp theme in ubuntu?
[20:53] <BlackCoffee> worked perfectly
[20:53] <Bite> Hi guys, i'm trying to set up GRUB on a mobo with a sata WinXP and an IDE Ubuntu CLI.
[20:53] <guntbert> !repeat | Okurwieniec
[20:53] <mickster04> kowboits: did you press return and install it properly?
[20:54] <roasted__> Problem - I'm in an Ubuntu server at the moment in terminal. It's a thin client terminal server. It's having a problem with java. I have no idea what, as it keeps coming back in terminal saying E: Broken Packages. How can I Remove it and re-add it properly?
[20:54] <Bite> roasted__: sudo autoremove sunjava6
[20:54] <red2kic> Lies.
[20:55] <roasted__> Bite: autoremove is not a command it seems
[20:55] <Bite> hmm...
[20:55] <red2kic> Apt-get? Aptitude?
[20:55] <Bite> i don't know the syntax well, but try sudo apt-get autoremove.
[20:55] <roasted__> ah
[20:55] <roasted__> you mean apt-get autoremove
[20:55] <tripelb> I have a question. So I switched user into my guest account to check that it worked, Ub10.04 - then I chose log out... and the screen went blank. I had to hardboot AFAIK to get a "living breathing system" up.  What did I do? I wanted to log that user out and go back to "me". Could I have recovered? I had no cursor, no anything. Please advise, sincerely, A_User
[20:55]  * tripelb changes nick to A_User
[20:55] <alan____> quit
[20:55] <roasted__> Bite: it looks like its working...
[20:55] <tripelb> hi Mhaddog
[20:56] <roasted__> Bite: if this works I will love you forever
[20:56] <Bite> autoremove removes both the original package and any packages tied to it.
[20:56] <Bite> rather than just the original package.
[20:56] <Mhaddog> hi tripelb
[20:56] <Bite> then just reinstall the java package
[20:56] <tdn> After installing the latest kernel updates, X stopped working. I think it is the nvidia driver that stopped working. Here is the log from the update: http://paste.adora.dk/P1993.txt it clealy says that nvidia-current failed. Bu tnot sure what failed. Some dkms?
[20:56] <tripelb> I got into a blank screen and my computer was still on. What happened? What could I have done? Sincerely, A_User
[20:57] <dualcore> i setup postfix and sasl but i can't figure out why my test messages are not making it to my gmail
[20:57] <Bite> roasted__: what exactly are you doing with java?
[20:57] <tripelb> tdn I'd be totally lost in your situation. Good luck. "What's a kernel, really? I keep asking.
[20:57] <red2kic> tdn: dkms: WARNING: linux headers are missing, which may explain the above failures. please install the linux-headers-2.6.35-28-generic package to fix this.
[20:57] <tripelb> dualcore, I've never set up anything and my gmail works fine.
[20:57] <red2kic> tdn: It say so in the log. You try that yet?
[20:57] <terry> dualcore: May take a while.  (could be some congestion on the net)
[20:58] <tdn> red2kic, I try now. Is that enough. Or do I have to run something to re-generate the dkms?
[20:58] <red2kic> tdn: Ah. I see.  You're installing that too.
[20:58] <tdn> tripelb, don't worry about what the kernel is. The kernel is just the core of your OS. Where the drivers and such reside.
[20:58] <tdn> red2kic, install what too?
[20:58] <tripelb> Dear Congnoscenti, what's the default "OK wait time" before asking one's question again?
[20:58] <red2kic> tdn: The kernel.
[20:59] <dualcore> i can telnet to localhost 25 and type out a test message and it appears to get queued and work, i can see an active connection open on port 25, but i never see the email come through
[20:59] <red2kic> tripelb: 10-15 minutes.
[20:59] <DrDetroit> I have been having problems with my Ubuntu 10,04 LTS running extreamly slow since my last two updates
[20:59] <ruif13> hi, anyone have toshiba acpi installed?
[20:59] <DrDetroit> I have regressed backwards 2 updates and all seems to be well
[20:59] <DrDetroit> has anyone else experienced this problem?
[20:59] <Logan_> !anyone | ruif13
[20:59] <tripelb> tdn, is that "dont worry your pretty little head about it?"   (asked with a sense of humor:)
[20:59] <ruif13> :)
[21:00] <tripelb> tripleb is your grandmother. I failed to install slackware from a zip (that was my first try at linux)
[21:00] <YankDownUnder> DrDetroit, Mate, have you checked to see if there's anything starting up in /etc/init.d (or your startup applications) that otherwise wasn't there before - or that you'd disabled beforehand?
[21:00] <Mhaddog> tripelb: what r u trying to do?
[21:00] <tdn> tripelb, well, yeah, actually you shouldn't worry about it. Unless you experience problems with it. A kernel is part of evey OS. Even Windows, Mac OSX, FreeBSD, and so on. You don't need to know what it is for normal use.
[21:00] <Bite> what's an .sh file?
[21:01] <tripelb> I got into a blank screen and my computer was still on. What happened? What could I have done? Sincerely, A_User
[21:01] <red2kic> tdn: You sure have lot of PPA and whatnot.
[21:01] <tdn> Bite, a shellscript.
[21:01] <tripelb> I have a question. So I switched user into my guest account to check that it worked, Ub10.04 - then I chose log out... and the screen went blank. I had to hardboot AFAIK to get a "living breathing system" up.  What did I do? I wanted to log that user out and go back to "me". Could I have recovered? I had no cursor, no anything. Please advise, sincerely, A_User
[21:01] <ruif13> !acpi
[21:01] <tdn> Bite, if you know Windows, think of it as a batch file (.bat), but more flexible.
[21:01] <DrDetroit> YankDownUnder: thanks for the response, i did not change anything, and have actually started to turn off several servies that were loading on startup, but that didnt help much
[21:01] <tdn> red2kic, yeah.
[21:01] <ruif13> !details
[21:01] <IdleOne> tripelb: we normally suggest 10-15 minutes, use common sense and you will be fine :)
[21:01] <DrDetroit> I have tried top itop and ps aux to try and isolate the issue, but nothing stands out as eating up[ my cpu or memeory
[21:01] <tripelb> oops Mhaddog I asked it again up ^^ without your handle, err nick
[21:02] <tdn> red2kic, http://paste.adora.dk/P1995.txt does this mean that it went successfully? Should I reboot to new kernel?
[21:02] <red2kic> tdn: Including /kernel-ppa/ too. I'm saying it because maybe things clashed.
[21:02] <Bite> tdn: i know theres a shellscript for running a server throgh ./craftbukkit.sh, but my previous one was configured to just 512 mb of ram. do you know how to make one?
[21:02] <YankDownUnder> DrDetroit, Here's something to check mate: from a liveCD, run an fs check on your partitions; as well, you can do a "sudo apt-get autoremove" to remove unwated carp from yer system; see what avails after that...?
[21:02] <Mhaddog> the error with a blank think on the kernel when you were logging out a guest account? @ tripelb
[21:03] <tripelb> IdleOne, thanks, I've always wondered and while I'm sitting here waiting I thought I'd ask that "second question" Could you answer one more, a learn linux site or text for a person who is smart but ignorant. (I'll tell you my background if you want. It's considerable.)
[21:03] <aerosolapple> %c16 does anyone know a good irc channel for html/css help?
[21:03] <ruif13> hi, i need help in acpi install
[21:03] <ruif13> in toshiba laptop
[21:04] <IdleOne> tripelb: /msg ubottu manual , also there is a tone of linux for beginners sites out there
[21:04] <DrDetroit> YankDownUnder My previous 2 updates were 2.6.32-30-generic and 2.6.32-29-generic both exhibited the same strange slow behaviour, but I have regressed to 2.6.32-28 and have had no reduction in performance-generic
[21:04] <tdn> red2kic, I wanted to try the new kernel, because I experience a really horrible bug right now making LUKS/dm-crypt slow to a crawl. I have reported this bug, and wanted to see if it has been fixed in later versions. Bug report here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/731340
[21:04] <DrDetroit> I was ust hoping someone could give me some ideas on how to troubleshoot this issue
[21:04] <Atamisk> hello, quickie: Will GNOME still be maintained after the official switch to Unity?
[21:05] <J450N__> hey guys iv been trying to install ubuntu on a 433mhz celeron laptop today but it fails every time with cannot read block, ever yother ditu and windows will install just no ubuntu's iv tried 7 - 10 and also xubuntu and others anything ubuntu based wont work?! any ideas what i can do
[21:05] <juniorsa> Hi, I installed 10.10 server and now I want to add support for the sound card, is there a faq for that?
[21:05] <tdn> Bite, I have no idea what the context of your problem is.
[21:05] <DrDetroit> the only hardware change i made was to remove a cd drive
[21:05] <arand> Atamisk: Yes.
[21:05] <Bite> tdn: i'm trying to run a .jar for a minecraft server.
[21:05] <Atamisk> arand: Many thanks, i can sleep now.
[21:06] <Bite> someone gave me a shellscript configured to just 512 mb ram
[21:06] <tripelb> Mhaddog, let me restate. I chose logout from a menu. The situation was I had this account active, then I switched user to the guest.) I got a blank screen with no apparent way to activity. I tried various key-things  inc cntl-C alt-cntl-F1 and same combo F7 and just alt or just control F1 F7 -- then I used the power switch.
[21:06] <tdn> Bite, .jar files are run with java.
[21:06] <YankDownUnder> DrDetroit, Hmmm...strange that - my last two kernel updates actually improved my performance (on old machinery)...have you checked out any of the hdparm / sdparm settings as well as any of yer networking settings - as well, you can also tweak out yer /etc/sysctl.conf to be sure...??
[21:06] <tdn> Bite, paste the shellscript here: http://p.adora.dk
[21:06] <Bite> tdn: i don't know how to pull it off of the CLI
[21:07] <tdn> DrDetroit, do you use luks?
[21:07] <Mhaddog> have you checked that all your drivers are working?, is this a laptop? @ tripelb
[21:07] <DrDetroit> tdm i dont think so
[21:07] <tdn> Bite, : cat filename
[21:07] <DrDetroit> its just that on the 28 kernel all is well, 29 and 30 make the machine slow down for apparently no reason that i can find
[21:07] <tdn> DrDetroit, ok, 64 bit or 32 bit?
[21:07] <DrDetroit> 32bit
[21:07] <Bite> tdn: that's difficult.
[21:08] <terry> tripelb: http://linuxreviews.org/beginner/ http://www.linux.com/learn  https://help.ubuntu.com/
[21:08] <tdn> DrDetroit, it is just that I experience really slow I/O performance after upgrading to 10.10, so maybe it could be related. See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/731340
[21:08] <dualcore> i need help getting postfix working
[21:08] <Bite> I have both a sata and an ide running on my machine
[21:08] <J450N__> hey guys iv been trying to install ubuntu on a 433mhz celeron laptop today but it fails every time with cannot read block, ever yother ditu and windows will install just no ubuntu's iv tried 7 - 10 and also xubuntu and others anything ubuntu based wont work?! any ideas what i can do
[21:08] <Bite> so i have to reboot and go into linux to find that.
[21:08] <Bite> i'll be right back, and tell you.
[21:08] <Atamisk> on another note, is there a launchpad bug for extremely odd I/O errors with the most recent 2 kernels on 64 bit?
[21:09] <tripelb> Mhaddog, everything works. It's a Dell, it's swell. An AGP-PCI machine. It's pretty vanilla. I've installed and use IRC. Picasa (which duplicates pics so it's a fail) chrome. transmission. I keep system monitor and weather-panel-thing running. I use gedit chrome and xchat all the time. That's the extent of my sophistocation. I plug in USB - phone, webcam, flashdrive, mouse.
[21:09] <juniorsa> my motherboard is a m4a785td-v evo there must be some sound drivers for this motherboard?
[21:09] <Raphi974> _Q_ : Anyeone knows why, at some boot, I have no sound ?
[21:10] <tripelb> Mhaddog, I meant to say, no indication of any problems. It's wonderful. It's a dualboot with windows that I almost never use.
[21:11] <guedesav> hello, my Ubunut just suddenly stopped accepting input in X mode
[21:11] <DrDetroit> tdm it is possibel
[21:11] <Mhaddog> ok, if you get episodes like that, you could check the logs and see, question is if you have fins if all your peripherals are recognized and working correctly
[21:11] <DrDetroit> the only thing i think we have in common is ext4 though
[21:11] <Mhaddog> usb sometimes has issues, waking up or shutting down systems, heard recently issues with usb3
[21:11] <guedesav> I was using it just fine this afternoon, then I put it inhibernation, when I came back it went into kernel panic
[21:11] <DrDetroit> its just too strange, all is well one day...do a couple updates and it all turns to mush
[21:11] <guedesav> now I turn it on and suddenly X doesn't accept input from keyboard or mouse
[21:12] <Mhaddog> so once you checked that ur drivers are setup correctly then you move forward to  more sophisticated issues
[21:12] <guedesav> but the console works just fine
[21:12] <DrDetroit> so i guess i will just keep running the 2.6.32-28-generic until a new one makes it go away i guess
[21:12] <guedesav> and the mouse works if I disconnect it and connect it again
[21:12] <guedesav> problem is, my keyboard is onboard, so I can't disconnect it :|
[21:13] <Bite> Okay... i need to also load GRUB on my computer so i can switch between the two OS i have.
[21:13] <Bite> can somebody help me?
[21:13] <Bite> i'll just mess with my old shellscripts later.
[21:16] <peter_felching> Hi. I have a question regarding audio. I've just installed this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/audio-recorder-for-linux-easily-record-audio-streams-to-mp3/ software, witch lets one save audio stream. Judging from comments it works for everyone, except me that is. I am using 10.10 on eeepc px 1001. Any idea how to fix this?
[21:17] <guedesav> ...okay, I'll just go see if it fixed itself
[21:18]  * Bite requests help.
[21:18] <aeon-ltd> Bite: shoot
[21:18] <juniorsa> anyone able to help me get sound working I installed 10.10 server and now need sound?
[21:19] <Bite> Does anybody know how to configure GRUB to recognize windows xp?
[21:19] <aeon-ltd> juniorsa: install alsa
[21:19] <firevai> anyone any good with compiz ?
[21:19] <juniorsa> aeon-ltd: did that, still no sound I have a m4a785td-v evo motherboard
[21:19] <aeon-ltd> juniorsa: once you've got that, ask again on how to configure it
[21:19] <aeon-ltd> firevai: they are in #compiz
[21:19] <juniorsa> aeon-ltd: ok how do I configure it?
[21:19] <firevai> yeah i'm there.. no one is replying
[21:20] <aeon-ltd> juniorsa: type, alsamixer, then max outputs out
[21:21] <karan> hey
[21:21] <J450N__> Hey all im really stuck right now.... iv got a laptop (433mhz celeron, 256mb ram, 6gb hdd) i want to use linux on it however all the ubuntu's i've tried on it are really slow and always fail when i try to install also they dont seem to get my wireless up and running (RT61 based PCMCIA) anyone got any ideas how i could get a good distu that will be fairly fast and also run my wifi, its only going to be used for irc and SSH etc
[21:21] <mickster04> Bite: just run sudo update-grub in terminal
[21:21] <karan> how do i install firefox 4 via terminal...since the final just came out
[21:21] <firevai> someone told me there is a better win games emu than wine out? is this true? i'd love to be able to play my games in linux not windows.. heck thats the only reason i use winblows
[21:21] <Bite> will that just do it?
[21:21] <YankDownUnder> J450N__, More RAM, mate. 256mb ain't going to cut it. Unless you find/use an ancient version....
[21:22] <aeon-ltd> J450N__: ubuntu server, start from almost nothing then install only what you need. if its irc and ssh only you could just not use X
[21:22] <juniorsa> aeon-ltd: ok so I can't max out headphones
[21:22] <MeanEYE> firevai: that was cedega, but was discontinued... there's a fork out there, don't know its name
[21:22] <aeon-ltd> juniorsa: are any them showing MM at the base of the bars?
[21:22] <firevai> oh ok
[21:22] <juniorsa> aeon-ltd: yes
[21:22] <aeon-ltd> !compile | karan
[21:22] <juniorsa> aeon-ltd: center and surround
[21:22] <karan> kk how to i install firefox 4
[21:22] <aeon-ltd> juniorsa: go to them press m to unmute them
[21:22] <karan> sudo apt-get ....
[21:23] <juniorsa> aeon-ltd: how do I go to them, sorry it's not very user friendly
[21:23] <Starminn> karan: Why not just download it from their site?
[21:23] <aeon-ltd> juniorsa: arrow keys
[21:23] <karan> it is a tar..bz2
[21:23] <karan> or we
[21:23] <karan> watever
[21:23] <karan> i do not know how to install a tar... file
[21:24] <IdleOne> !ff4 | karan
[21:24] <Karen_m> hello everyone, I have a ubuntu livecd, is there a way to make things/installs permanent ON the actual usb drive?
[21:24] <maheanuu> Is there a newbie chat in freenode?
[21:24] <juniorsa> aeon-ltd: ok they are all un-muted how do I test, I have speakers setup
[21:24] <aeon-ltd> !usb | Karen_m
[21:24] <scarleo> karan: you install it, you have to unpack it (or ad the ppa as described above)
[21:25] <scarleo> *you cant
[21:25] <Logan_> maheanuu: for Ubuntu?
[21:25] <maheanuu> yes
[21:25] <IdleOne> #ubuntu-beginners
[21:26] <gllvr> anyone know if there is a way to tell a machine to use some name server, other than the default name server, to do lookups for a certain domain?  I want to test something prior to updating the NS record for the domain in question.
[21:26] <juniorsa> aeon-ltd: which one is the green connector in the back for normal analog speakers?
[21:26] <maheanuu> Thanks idleone
[21:26] <IdleOne> welcome
[21:26] <kerama> jj
[21:26] <Karen_m> thank you
[21:26] <aeon-ltd> juniorsa: on mine it is, to test you need some kind of file to play
[21:26] <DrShoggoth> is it worth getting a creative soundcard vs using onboard?
[21:27] <DrShoggoth> will it lower cpu usage or better output?
[21:27] <aeon-ltd> juniorsa: aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[21:27] <juniorsa> aeon-ltd: the card is hda ati sb, and the chip is via vt1708s is this supported for sure?
[21:27] <aeon-ltd> juniorsa: do this 'aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav' in a terminal if it plays sound then yes your card works :)
[21:28] <juniorsa> aeon-ltd: works, thanks a mil
[21:28] <aeon-ltd> juniorsa: you're welcome :)
[21:28] <delac> trying to format my 500gb external lacie. There is a 10mb "protected" partition, which the disk utility refuses to delete. How do I remove the protection?
[21:31] <legiero> vas is das
[21:32] <aeon-ltd> its 'was ist das'
[21:32] <aeon-ltd> diese ist #ubuntu
[21:33] <guntbert> aeon-ltd: gone
[21:33] <MeanEYE> spartaaaa :P
[21:33] <aeon-ltd> guntbert: i was just lonely cos no one was talking
[21:33] <aeon-ltd> ...
[21:33] <rww> aeon-ltd: perhaps you should try #ubuntu-offtopic ;P
[21:36] <aeon-ltd> guys with questions feel free to ask again now :)
[21:36] <BbluE> Hello all, :D
[21:36] <peter_felching> Anyone has a problem with firefox 4 and flash? It says I need to upgrade, however apt says I have latest flashplugin-nonfree.
[21:37] <aeon-ltd> peter_felching: yeah usually ubuntu branding takes time
[21:37] <Atamisk> exit
[21:37] <peter_felching> aeon-ltd, have you encountered same error, or is it just wild guess?
[21:38] <aeon-ltd> peter_felching: no, i just know that when packages are released ubuntu/canonical like to test and brand for ubuntu then release the branded version - so 90% inferring 10% guessing
[21:39] <alfa> hi all
[21:39] <BbluE> Hello alfa
[21:39] <peter_felching> aeon-ltd, thanks for explaining.
[21:39] <aeon-ltd> peter_felching: its not true every time though :)
[21:39] <alfa> i test 11.4 alfa 3
[21:39] <Peter__> Im about to install ubuntu, would you recommend, usb or CD, or does it not matter?
[21:40] <alfa> who knows when official relise come 11.4
[21:40] <guntbert> !natty | alfa
[21:40] <glocal> DVD maybe ?
[21:40] <aeon-ltd> Peter__: it doesn't matter, but whatever's handy
[21:40] <gomez_> hi
[21:40] <alfa> hi
[21:40] <BbluE> Hello
[21:41] <gomez_> does any one of you know any way to download contacts from samsung s5230 on ubuntu?
[21:42] <Peter__> ok, so im about trying to install ubuntu on my laptop beside, the usb pen is properly configured, but it is not doing anything apart from boot normally
[21:42] <Peter__> boot priority is set to removable drive
[21:43] <delac> FYI: If everything else fails, use GParted!
[21:43] <tbruff13> do you have an ubuntu or windows computer
[21:43] <tbruff13> other than the one you want ubuntu to be on Peter__
[21:43] <s3r3n1t7> Peter__, does it properly boot on another pc?
[21:43] <alfa> who can halpe me whot it meens that apt-get install dist-upgrade ???
[21:43] <hoho> hi, anyone know the best file synchronization tool? is it rsync?
[21:43] <cutiyar_> when i get firefox 4 update on my update-manager?
[21:43] <Peter__> Yes it does
[21:43] <Peter__> well hold on
[21:44] <tbruff13> Peter__, try using unetbooin a windows and ubuntu flash drive program it may work better find it here  http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[21:44] <Peter__> yea, the usb pen is working fine on this computer
[21:45] <s3r3n1t7> Peter__, not if it just works, the question is, does it boot from that usb pen?
[21:45] <kontagious> anyone having trouble connecting to facebook through empathy
[21:46] <AndrewMC> !anyone | kontagious
[21:46] <newbie01> hi all, How do i quit Vi in command line i.e. which buttons?
[21:47] <Auriga> Howdy, I just downloaded a .tar.tar I can't do anything with it in the cli, so I open it in the GUI, it tells me 'it doesn't look like a tar archive'. I then rename the .tar.tar to .tar, I get the same messagae. I then go to rename it back, but I type '.tar.atar' by accident & it now opens. Can someone explain this to me?
[21:47] <s3r3n1t7> newbie01, if by vi you mean the symlinked vim version: esc :q
[21:47] <kalpsiz_soldier> selam
[21:47] <alfa> aleikum asalam
[21:47] <kontagious> AndrewMC, that is my question
[21:48] <kalpsiz_soldier> turkçe b
[21:48] <kalpsiz_soldier> turkçe bilenler el kaldırsın :)
[21:48] <newbie01> s3r3n1t7, VI(Visual) Editor
[21:48] <mickster04> !en
[21:49] <newbie01> How do I quit VI(Visual) Editor in command line i.e. which buttons?
[21:49] <trism> newbie01: press escape, then :q then hit enter
[21:50] <trism> newbie01: or :wq if you want to save first
[21:50] <terry> newbie01: wq   #to save and quit
[21:50] <Peter__> ok, so i have used UNetbootin to put Ubuntu onto my flash drive, it requires nothing else than to reboot my computer with the flash drive in?
[21:50] <speakman> Is there any way to trace what's causing /usr/bin/X to be extremely CPU intensive sometimes=
[21:50] <terry> newbie01: :wq   #to save and quit   :q!    #To quit without saving
[21:51] <Xion> does anyone know the command for the oppenoffice.org main page ?
[21:51] <terry> newbie01: Esc key puts you in command mode.
[21:51] <terry> newbie01: i  puts you in the edit mode.
[21:51] <rebirth> how do i make tomboy notes automatically start up when i launch?
[21:52] <terry> rebirth: I think if you close session with it running, it will be running next time.
[21:52] <newbie01> terry, thanks
[21:52] <terry> NP
[21:53] <noob13> test
[21:53] <cutiyar_> when i get firefox 4 update on my update-manager?
[21:53] <IdleOne> rebirth: System > Preferences > Startup Applications and add tomboy to the list
[21:53] <iceroot> cutiyar_: never
[21:53] <tbruff13> okay this is day two of my quest to find something like unetbootin that offer persistance that boots quickly the startup disk creator is really slow and does not do the job so can someone please help me figure this out
[21:53] <cutiyar_> iceroot, why?
[21:53] <tbruff13> iceroot, you help me before
[21:53] <raido> rebirth: System>Preferences>Startup Applications
[21:53] <iceroot> cutiyar_: within a ubuntu-release you only get security updates, not major updates
[21:54] <delac> how to set a folder so that everything put there will be accessible and writable by all?
[21:54] <iceroot> delac: chmod -R 777 folder
[21:54] <iceroot> delac: but remeber, 777 is almost always a bad idea
[21:54] <cutiyar_> iceroot, no i get other updates of firefox in ubuntu-manager
[21:54] <iceroot> cutiyar_: as i said, there are no major-updates in the normal ubuntu-repos
[21:55] <crc32> when building a deb package how do you configure the rules to install a file if it doesn't already exist? Ie I'm tyrying to avoid the "dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/ng-lbaas-routes_0.0.1-1_all.deb (--unpack):
[21:55] <crc32> trying to overwrite SomeFile" Error
[21:55] <tbruff13> any ideas anyone because im so lost
[21:55] <cutiyar_> iceroot, but i got updates before
[21:55] <iceroot> cutiyar_: bit not firefox 3.5 - 3.6 just security updates
[21:56] <hedgehog> Привет, славяне есть?
[21:56] <D3JAVU> net
[21:56] <erUSUL> !ru
[21:56] <cutiyar_> iceroot, but when i clicked to about firfox it was 3.5.13,14,etc
[21:57] <Logan_> !fx4 | cutiyar_
[21:57] <RandomCake> Hi, I've got an Acer Aspire One ZG5, and I'm running Ubuntu 10.10 with the ubuntu-netbook (meta?) package installed, how can I enable showing my battery status?
[21:57] <Logan_> !ff4 | cutiyar_
[21:57] <newbie01> Does anyone like using Vi or vim?
[21:57] <sysop3> why does my disk think it has more stuf on it than it actually has? its a 2tb drive with 100 gig free. and I am trying to copy the contents to another 2tb  drive  but it fills up the drive. and when I do a du it shows 2.4 tb
[21:57] <RandomCake> vim2win newbie01
[21:58] <tbruff13> hello can someone help me please
[21:58] <newbie01> vi over pico?
[21:58] <tbruff13> sorry just been at this for to days
[21:58] <RandomCake> sysop3: have you checked cluster size on the two disks?
[21:58] <guedesav> okay, I think I updated my xserver-xorg packages and it pretty much messed my X
[21:58] <sysop3> no.
[21:58] <RandomCake> not tried pico newbie01, but certainly over nano, and emacs
[21:58] <sysop3> RandomCake, no.
[21:58] <cutiyar_> ubottu, thanks worked
[21:59] <guedesav> now when I restart the computer Ubuntu doesn't recognize input unless I deactivate and reactivate the evdev module, and then restart the server
[21:59] <Peter__> grrrrr, now even UNETbootin refues to work for me -___-
[21:59] <guedesav> also, none of the terminal emulators work, anyone have any idea why?
[21:59] <crc32> is there some alternative to dh_install when building deb packages which instruct the package to install the file if it does not already exist?
[21:59] <RandomCake> have a look at that sysop3, because if one has a larger cluster size, then the minimum size a file takes up disk is higher, so 1,000 1 byte files take up 4,000,000 on a disk with a 4k cluster size
[22:00] <DavidGuetta> Hello
[22:00] <delac> iceroot: yes, but there is still the problem, that if one user creates a file and puts it there, another user wont be able to modify that file. not at default that is. any way to make folder that automatically transforms anything put there as "shared"?
[22:00] <RandomCake> it might not be much help in fixing it, but that could be the reason, the only way I think to change cluster size would be a format (but if the new disk is empty that shouldn't be a huge problem?)
[22:00] <guedesav> also, ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't work anymire... I don't want to reinstall Ubuntu, in fact I wish I could revert it to my previous configuration
[22:01] <guedesav> anyone knows if there's some sort of "revert" for APT?
[22:01] <terry> guedesav: It's not supposed to work.
[22:01] <terry> guedesav: service gdm stop
[22:01] <guedesav> ...it worked until today afternoon
[22:01] <tbruff13> can someone help me get a program running
[22:01] <guedesav> I use kdm
[22:02] <terry> guedesav: service kdm stop
[22:02] <sysop3> RandomCake, same block size
[22:02] <guedesav> yes, but as I said, it worked
[22:02] <guedesav> until I had to turn off my PC
[22:02] <sysop3> did a sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sdb1|grep size
[22:02] <guedesav> because linux went kernel panic on me
[22:02] <terry> guedesav: did you just do a distribution upgrade?
[22:02] <guedesav> no
[22:02] <sysop3> and on both it was Block size:               4096
[22:02] <guedesav> I just updated the xserver-xorg packages
[22:02] <tbruff13> the program here https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/ how can i install it in ubuntu
[22:02] <terry> guedesav: well, that's why.
[22:03] <guedesav> okay
[22:03] <guedesav> now
[22:03] <disappearedng> Is there anyway to tell rsync: pull additional files from server if necessary (but don't copy back to the server)
[22:03] <guedesav> why X doesn't recognize my input devices?
[22:03] <guedesav> unless I do modprobe -r evdev
[22:03] <terry> Ctrl-Alt-Backspace has been deprecated
[22:03] <guedesav> then modprobe evdev
[22:03] <guedesav> then restart kdm?
[22:03] <guedesav> is it how it's supposed to be?
[22:03] <Trashi> hi. im using ubuntu maverick ... is there anyone who can explain how to update firefox 3.6.x to 4.x?
[22:03] <guedesav> I suppose not
[22:03] <terry> guedesav: sudo service kdm restart
[22:03] <guedesav> no
[22:03] <guedesav> I know how to restart kd
[22:03] <guedesav> the problem
[22:04] <itaylor57> !ff4 | Trashi
[22:04] <guedesav> is that now if I reboot my system, Xorg doesn't get any input
[22:04] <guedesav> not mouse
[22:04] <guedesav> not keyboard
[22:04] <guedesav> nothing
[22:04] <FloodBot2> guedesav: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:04] <guedesav> unless I do
[22:04] <zacktu> in the past i've used gparted to create and format all the linux partitions for dual boot w/ windows and then selected "manual partition" -- my partitions have always been /boot, /, /home & swap) -- i'm setting up a new computerand installing maverick -- as usual i've indicated my four partitions and how i will use them -- but now there's an additional question about the device for boot...
[22:04] <Trashi> itaylor57: thanks
[22:04] <zacktu> ...manager and the default is /dev/sda, but i can choose any of the partitions on the drive -- i assume that i should select the partition i'm planning to use for /boot -- but i'll be doing it twice -- is that correct?
[22:04] <guedesav> okay
[22:04] <itaylor57> Trashi: np
[22:05] <hoho> hi, anyone know the best file synchronization tool? is it rsync?
[22:05] <alesan> hi!
[22:05] <terry> guedesav:  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-evdev
[22:05] <alesan> how do I install the microsoft fonts?
[22:05] <alesan> times new roman, arial, etc?
[22:05] <crc32> is there some alternative to dh_install when building deb packages which instruct the package to install the file if it does not already exist on the system. Basically I'm trying to avoid the error message "dpkg: error processing pkg (--unpack): trying to overite some/file/path which is also in pakage someOtherPakage.
[22:05] <guedesav> no, terry, it is the newest version, that seems to be the problem
[22:06] <guedesav> I just don't know why, but it started happening after I updated all the xserver-xorg packages. What I want to know is why ubuntu isn't recognizing my input unless I restart the evdev module
[22:06] <WXZ> can someone go into openoffice writer, go to tools > customize, click on the "shortcut keys" section, press shift+enter and tell me what the command beside it is called?
[22:06] <alesan> what is the name of the latest ubuntu?
[22:06] <guedesav> also, why xterm, eterm and all the other terminals stopped working. I didn't do anything with their packages.
[22:07] <RandomCake> sorry sysop3, that was the best idea I had!
[22:07] <terry> alesan: http://tutorial.downloadatoz.com/install-microsoft-text-fonts-in-ubuntu-10-10.html
[22:07] <hoho> hi, anyone know the best file synchronization tool? is it rsync?
[22:07] <kevinkonrad> is there a way to make the cpu frequency moniter control all 8 of my cores?
[22:07] <terry> alesan: Maveric
[22:08] <terry> guedesav: what version are you running?
[22:08] <terry> guedesav: 10.04?
[22:08] <iceroot> delac: its called umask
[22:09] <guedesav> I'm pretty sure it's 8.10
[22:09] <terry> guedesav: apt-get upgrade
[22:09] <terry> guedesav: sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:09] <Xion> whats the command for openoffice.org main page ?
[22:09] <zacktu> WXA: Insert Manual Row Break
[22:10] <terry> guedesav: lsb_release -a
[22:10] <guedesav> ...I think I mentioned up there that I don't want to upgrade the system. Because usually my system has a lot of ad hoc configuration that I'll have to once again discover how to make work(like my tablet, for example), so is that all the help you can give me?
[22:10] <terry> guedesav: sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:10] <guedesav> yep, it's intrepid
[22:11] <guedesav> I saw it the first time, terry. I guess I won't find any fixes here, so thanks and good night
[22:11] <tbruff13> hello
[22:12] <tbruff13> ok i just need to know of a good usb creator other than the startup disk and unetinbootin
[22:12] <newbie01> whats the command line to copy files from one directory to another e.g. bob.txt from home to desktop? p.s I'm a newb.
[22:13] <Starminn> newbie01: "cp" = copy
[22:13] <sysop3> usbdiskwritr i think
[22:13] <sysop3> writer
[22:13] <Starminn> newbie01: << cp /path/to/original/file /path/to/new/file >>
[22:13] <WXZ> can someone go into openoffice writer, go to tools > customize, click on the "shortcut keys" section, press shift+enter and tell me what the command beside it is called?
[22:13] <XoD> newbie01: cp -i ~/bob.txt ~/Desktop
[22:13] <terry> newbie01: cp  Documents/file1.txt .  #Will copy file1.txt to your current dir.
[22:14] <terry> newbie01: cp -i ~/bob.txt ~/Desktop
[22:14] <newbie01> if its multiple files?
[22:14] <terry> will copy bob.txt to the Destkop dir
[22:14] <Starminn> WXZ: Insert Manual Row Break (in LibreOffice but it should be the same thing)
[22:14] <terry> will copy *.txt ~/Desktop
[22:14] <sysop3> newbie01,  learn rsync you will thank me later
[22:14] <WXZ> Starminn: thanks
[22:15] <Starminn> WXZ: Sure thing.
[22:15] <zacktu> WXZ: Your question was answered a while ago -- just look back about 20 entries
[22:15] <newbie01> thanks all
[22:15] <WXZ> zacktu: I didn't see it, usually stuff that doesn't start with my name zips by me
[22:16] <terry> newbie01: cp *.txt ~/Desktop   #Will copy all files with .txt on the end to your /home/newbie01/Desktop  directory.
[22:16] <rebirth> i'm trying to add backports to my sources list but it doesn't seem to stick. i click add and enter "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid-backports main universe multiverse restricted" but nothing new shows up on the list
[22:17] <WXZ> zacktu: thanks, for the answer. missed it because it was WXA not WXZ :p
[22:17] <newbie01> and to cut Not copy?
[22:17] <rww> rebirth: go to the Updates tab and check the backports checkbox instead
[22:18] <newbie01> or directories?
[22:18] <Bite> is anybody knowledgeable enough with GRUB2 to tell me how to set the time GRUB waits before booting?
[22:18] <Bite> Additionally, does anybody know how to configure it to boot a speciifc OS first?
[22:18] <patrikus> hi
[22:18] <erUSUL> Bite: edit /etc/default/grub ( hint TIMEOUT ) and then run «sudo update-grub»
[22:19] <erUSUL> !grub2 > Bite
[22:19] <rebirth> rww: i went to the updates tab and the "unsupported updates (lucid-backports)" check back is blue without a check... clicking it does nothing..
[22:19] <rebirth> check box* not check back
[22:19] <patrikus> ацки много вас тут
[22:19] <dust--> hi, how can i install the latest kdevelop 4.1.1 on ubuntu (gnome)?
[22:19] <myradlife> How can I get around this error when trying to write to a usb drive? "cp: cannot create regular file: .... : Read-only file system"  ?
[22:20] <kevinkonrad> is there any way to use the cpu frequency monitor to control all cpu cores?
[22:20] <ubuntu> i re installed my ubuntu 10.04 twice cause of it wont boot.  I think I have it down to being an update but dont know what one but it is after updates it wont boot. im on live cd mode now. ubuntu gets to logo screen and then monitor goes blank and says unusable signal from monitor.  I think it is nvidia update that is cause??? I hold shift and load grub but key wont work and I have to reboot...any help please
[22:21] <iceroot> ubuntu: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old
[22:21] <Jasonn> Hello, i am looking for something like network magic for windows to run on ubuntu
[22:21] <iceroot> Jasonn: and what is network magic?
[22:21] <erUSUL> Jasonn: what does network magic do ?
[22:21] <Jasonn> its like a network management solution
[22:22] <Jasonn>  gives you a network map
[22:22] <Bite> erUSUL: exactly what should i do? word-by-word?
[22:22] <Jasonn> helps you manage the network from a single program, configs your router for you and more
[22:22] <erUSUL> Bite: edit the file a said and change the value of the timout value to the number of seconds you want
[22:22] <iceroot> Jasonn: configs the router?
[22:23] <danub> hey all, how do i get a sound manager on my panel? i want a quick volume control shortcut
[22:23] <Jasonn> iceroot: not really, one sec, ill get a link
[22:23] <Bite> and to tell it to boot windows first?
[22:23] <nellwee> iceroot, im in live cd
[22:23] <Jasonn> iceroot: http://www.ehow.com/about_5407415_network-magic_.html
[22:23] <trism> danub: add the indicator applet to your panel
[22:23] <iceroot> nellwee: then mount your drive and type what i wrote
[22:24] <kowboits> привет
[22:24] <iceroot> Jasonn: cant imaging cisco isnt offering a linux-version. have you tried wine?
[22:24] <danub> trism: i added it, its the same thing as the icon to the far right that lets me logout, restart, shutdown etc
[22:24] <LjL> !ru > kowboits    (kowboits, see the private message from ubottu)
[22:25] <Jasonn> iceroot: uses windows files, and AHAHA cisco offering something linux based? I mean something LIKE it
[22:25] <trism> danub: not indicator-applet-session, just the indicator-applet
[22:25] <iceroot> Jasonn: i dont know, its your turn to find out
[22:25] <danub> yeah that doesn't have sound either. that is a envelope and houses my pigdin, chat, email, etc
[22:25] <Jasonn> iceroot: Is there somewhere i can go to find out, i dont know how to describe this product
[22:26] <trism> danub: do you have indicator-sound installed?
[22:26] <danub> if it is a default, yes. if it's not, no
[22:26] <trism> danub: sudo apt-get install indicator-sound;
[22:26] <Bite> erUSUL: to default into windows first as opposed to linux?
[22:26] <danub> grabbing it now
[22:27] <danub> that is retarded... it should come standard
[22:27] <antihero> what were those user ubuntu repos called
[22:27] <antihero> you use a special command to add them I think it's like 3 letters
[22:27] <danub> anyway. thank you. i hate using the keyboard keys to raise/lower the volume
[22:27] <antihero> Slipped my mind :C
[22:27] <rww> antihero: ppa
[22:27] <antihero> rww: Woo! Thanks. It's annoying when you can't remember simple words.
[22:28] <antihero> Is there a PPA or deb to get brand new versions of PHP?
[22:28] <antihero> My maverick server seems to be on 5.3.3
[22:29] <iceroot> Jasonn: look at the cisco website is there is a linux-version
[22:29] <antihero> or are suhosin etc being ported still
[22:29] <earthmeLon> Can anybody help me make sure that ASCPI is working 100% on my laptop.  I feel as though it's getting hotter than it should and want to make sure everything is okay.  Sony Vaio VPCF126FM
[22:29] <iceroot> antihero: why you need a newer version?
[22:30] <rebirth> i'm trying to get backports but when i go to the Updates tab in Software Sources "unsupported updates (lucid-backports)" as a blue check box without a check. clicking on it doesn't change it. does anyone know what's up with this?
[22:30] <rebirth> has a blue check box
[22:31] <Jasonn> iceroot: there isnt, i want to know if there is something LIKE this product, where can i search the repos?
[22:31] <iceroot> Jasonn: apt-cache search searchstring
[22:31] <Jasonn> iceroot: thanks
[22:33] <el_btd> Hi.
[22:33] <bstarek> hello guys, i am trying to kill a connection on my localhost established on port 55553, how can i do that??
[22:34] <bstarek> i have tried tcpkill but didnt do the job
[22:34] <el_btd> How  can I manage multiple ubuntu clients from a central point/server? Especially software installation, software updates...
[22:35] <bstarek> anyone on how to close a tcp connection on specific port??
[22:35] <icewaterman> hi, i have a problem with ubuntu & sound. on login screen i have sound events. when i log in, sound doesnt work anywhere
[22:36] <nellwee> iceroot,  how do I mount the file system from live cd?  I can browse file on it already.
[22:36] <erUSUL> !info dnsiff | bstarek
[22:36] <offsense> does firefox consume more memory load than chrome in ubuntu?
[22:37] <raido> bstarek: you could add an ipfilter rule to block all TCP on that port, but localhost connectiosn are usually inter process working on you system and you would likely cuse something to stop working by stoppinp the connections.
[22:37] <erUSUL> !info dsniff | bstarek
[22:37] <erUSUL> bstarek: that package has a tcpkill command
[22:37] <raido> el_btd: What do you mean by manage?
[22:37] <erUSUL> !info cutter | bstarek
[22:37] <bstarek> erUSUL: i actually got the package, i have use tcpkill but couldnt close the connection
[22:38] <bstarek> erUSUL: netstat an shows that the connection is still established
[22:38] <el_btd> raido: mostly installing and updating software. /home would be on nfs, authentication can be done by ldap, but how do i manage software on many machines?
[22:38] <joeb_> this touch pad on my keyboard sucks very bad .. there a way to disbale it while im typing and then once done it can renable .. or say when i use teh mouse its disabled and vica versa when im typing ?
[22:38] <cybrhuman> offsense: If you wonder how much memory an application is using you can try using "top", a command line tool.
[22:38] <nellwee> sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old mv: cannot stat `/etc/X11/xorg.conf': No such file or directory
[22:39] <iceroot> nellwee: then its already mounted
[22:39] <iceroot> nellwee: guess on /media/ ?
[22:40] <iceroot> nellwee: that command is triend to move the xorg.conf from your live-cd, you need something like sudo mv /media/harddiskname/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:40] <Bite> erUSUL: you've lied to me.
[22:40] <brophat> the lexmark printer driver does not seem to be working with my 64 bit ubuntu but it worked with the 32 bit ubuntu is this a known problem?
[22:40] <Bite> No directory under /etc/default/grub exists.
[22:40] <erUSUL> Bite: huh?
[22:41] <Bite> let alone a /etc/default directory.
[22:41] <erUSUL> Bite: well it is a file not a dir
[22:41] <erUSUL> Bite: /etc/default/ exists in all ubuntu installs
[22:42] <Bite> then what's the grub file's extension?
[22:42] <delac> does anyone know if there is any permissionless filesystems for linux? (fat has too small filesizes and ntfs...)
[22:42] <raido> el_btd: Have you looked at Landscape from Canonical?
[22:43] <erUSUL> Bite: first, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[22:43] <Bite> Server. 10.01.
[22:43] <Bite> 10.10*
[22:43] <Bite> CLI.
[22:43] <arand> Bite: It does not have an extension...(?)
[22:43] <erUSUL> Bite: then you must have a file named /etc/default/grub
[22:43] <juniorsa> Hi, so I have virtualbox 4.0 running under ubuntu 10.10 I am running a windows 7 client, when I RDP to the client all is good, but I can't figure out how to get sound over rdp, anyone?
[22:43] <Bite> is it a file or a directlory?
[22:44] <erUSUL> Bite: is a file
[22:44] <iceroot> juniorsa: ##windows
[22:44] <Bite> erUSUL i couldn't find /etc/default/grub
[22:45] <iceroot> Bite: output of "ls -l /etc/default/grub"
[22:45] <iceroot> Bite: if "file not found" output of "dpkg -l grub2"
[22:45] <juniorsa> iceroot: even for virtualbox, I know I have used RDP to a normal windows host, and sound works fine, the virtual machine running on the host has sound
[22:45] <Bite> ls... -l?
[22:45] <fr00g> Can anyone tell me how to remove the top window bar in Firefox so that my Persona extends all the way to the top?
[22:46] <iceroot> juniorsa: but i dont see the relation to ubuntu
[22:46] <el_btd> raido: just heard about it for the first time
[22:46] <el_btd> raido: i can't find any pricing on it though
[22:46] <Bite> iceroot
[22:46] <Bite> i'm confused.
[22:46] <Starminn> fr00g: Full-screen it. Windows has no window title bar on fullscreen but it exists in windows mode. For Linux the only option is F11 I believe.
[22:46] <cptmorgan> im using a static ip address and have /etc/resolv.conf using only the loopback for a nameserver. bind9 is running and loads all zones correctly but won't resolv any systems locally. If i remove the external namesever from the forwarders section and restart bind it still resolves external host names. anyone have any idea what's going on? its like /etc/resolv.conf is not being used.
[22:47] <iceroot> Bite: just put in terminal what i wrote in " "
[22:47] <Starminn> fr00g: Which kinda removes thePersona too I think.
[22:47] <iceroot> Bite: and gave us the output
[22:47] <Bite> it's cli.
[22:47] <Bite> not terminal.
[22:47] <iceroot> Bite: its the same
[22:47] <Bite> i'm dual-booting two hard drives.
[22:47] <Bite> and it's a pain in the ass.
[22:47] <arand> iceroot: /etc/default/grub is actually not part of any package.
[22:47] <Bite> also, i don't have copy/paste.
[22:47] <erUSUL> arand: grub-pc in 10.04
[22:47] <erUSUL> !find /etc/default/grub
[22:48] <raido> el_btd: I think you have to contact them for pricing. There are free ones too. Many in fact. Ive never used any of them but I only admin a small network like 10 machines.
[22:48] <iceroot> arand: hm, should be part of grub2
[22:48] <el_btd> raido: i even have less for now. so you update them all by hand?
[22:48] <miles__> whois miles
[22:48] <arand> iceroot: Likely postinst or similar though.
[22:48] <iceroot> arand: yeah seems so
[22:48] <Bite> iceroot: it's grub2.
[22:49] <iceroot> arand: not good maintained (imo) every file should registered in the deb
[22:49] <Bite> i'm just trying to up the time that grub appears before booting and change the default boot to winxp.
[22:49] <iceroot> arand: and i guess /etc/default/grub should be marked as conffile too (but just my opinion)
[22:50] <raido> el_btd: Ok, on one server I installed apt-cacher, then all desktops are the same version of Ubuntu and all have the basic same install. Yes, I update by hand, but apt-cacher makes for a large savings in bandwidth
[22:50] <zvacet> Bite: install startup manager to choose witch os to boot first
[22:50] <iceroot> Bite: so you dont have a gui, you want to edit a file and dont know how to use nano,emcas, vim. is that correct?
[22:50] <raido> el_btd: Also, Ive found that /home on NFS is very slow, even on a switched 100/1000 network
[22:50] <Bite> i know nano.
[22:50] <Bite> that's the extent.
[22:51] <zacktu> my lenovo thinkpad has a boot partition followed by a windows 7 partition -- for dual booting does ubuntu overwrite the first partition w/ grub?
[22:51] <raido> el_btd: So I only keep /home/Documents on NFS
[22:51] <Bite> startup manager?
[22:51] <Bite> is it a package?
[22:51] <cybrhuman> Bite: I think that is the correct file, but think you have to do a grub-update afterwards
[22:51] <Bite> i'm not running into file issues.
[22:51] <erUSUL> !find /etc/default/grub 10.04
[22:51] <erUSUL> !find /etc/default/grub lucid
[22:51] <zvacet> Bite: yes but you don´t use gui don´t you?
[22:52] <Bite> no, i don't.
[22:52] <dekela> Hi all
[22:52] <Bite> what's the lightest gui?
[22:52] <juniorsa> iceroot: I asked in the virtualbox channel and no one answered, where can I check?
[22:52] <blue_pearl> Bite : xfce
[22:52] <Bite> so i can just install the gui, configure GRUB, and uninstall it?
[22:52] <zvacet> Bite : lxde
[22:52] <dekela> Any good tutorial for pushing only private lan routes to vpn clients from a pptpd ubuntu vpn?
[22:52] <Bite> the syntax is sudo apt-get install lxde?
[22:53] <dekela> I dont want the clients to use the vpn as the default route
[22:53] <arand> Bite: You will be able to do that without a gui...
[22:53] <Ray001> hi all :)
[22:53] <cybrhuman> strange... that file is indeed present on my system, why is /etc/default/grub reported nonexistent by ubottu?
[22:53] <blue_pearl> Bite: yes
[22:53] <iceroot> juniorsa: ##windows  because you wan sound over rdp
[22:53] <zvacet> Bite:  it is sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop butyou can read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[22:53] <juniorsa> iceroot: right I will check now, thanks
[22:53] <Bite> arand: it's just such a pain...
[22:53] <Bite> lubuntu?
[22:53] <iceroot> cybrhuman: its not part of a package, its created from a script inside a package
[22:53] <el_btd> raido: i have had the homes on nfs for quite a while now. i need that so people can switch desks and still keep their homes. but my client machines are not super fast, so home speed shouldn't matter that much
[22:54] <zvacet> Bite:  it is ubuntu with lxde
[22:54] <arand> Bite: sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub-pc should hopefully generate that file
[22:54] <raido> el_btd: gotcha
[22:55] <arand> cybrhuman: It is generated postinstall, and hence not managed by dpkg
[22:55] <Ray001> hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! anyone out there for a chat
[22:55] <arand> !ot | Ray001
[22:55] <cybrhuman> iceroot, arand: ok, thanks :)
[22:55] <Tjalve> Tjalve
[22:55] <Bite> so what's the best way to just configure grub?
[22:55] <Logan_> !grub | bite
[22:56] <Bite> since i'm dual-booting two HDDs and i have to switch them on boot.
[22:56] <zvacet> !grub2
[22:56] <el_btd> raido: so I have to contact Canonical for any version of Landscape? Do you know about any alternatives?
[22:56] <iceroot> Bite: the best way is using "sudo vim /etc/default/grub" the easiest way for you is "sudo nano /etc/default/grub" and then "sudo update-grub"
[22:56] <arand> Bite: dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
[22:57] <gbear14275> hello, I was trying to dual boot another linux OS and during install the system automatically installed GRUB to the MBR.  Well I normally have a /boot and only the new linux OS is showing up in grub now.
[22:57] <Logan_> el/clear
[22:57] <Bite> okay
[22:57] <Bite> brb
[22:57] <Bite> going to try several methods.
[22:57] <zvacet> gbear14275: reinstall grub following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling from LiveCD
[22:57] <Logan_> el_btd: Spacewalk
[22:58] <Logan_> el_btd: but it's for Fedora
[22:58] <mang0> Hey logan
[22:58] <Ray001> why does time change when connected bodhi linux
[22:58] <arand> gbear14275: boot a liveCD mount root partition of ubuntu install, use grub-install with the --root-directory option.
[22:58] <Roey> hi
[22:58] <Roey> where can one get Firefox 4 for Ubuntu 64-bit
[22:58] <Roey> ?
[22:58] <Logan_> !ff4 | Roey
[22:59] <Roey> thank you
[22:59] <Roey> )
[22:59] <Roey> :)
[22:59] <Logan_> hi mang0
[22:59] <mang0> God that bot knows everything
[22:59] <blue_pearl> Ray001: u dual booting with windows?
[22:59] <gbear14275> thanks arand and zvacet
[22:59] <zvacet> gbear14275: np
[22:59] <bite-android> now, luckily, androids can connect to irc.
[22:59] <Logan_> !ot | bite-android
[23:00] <Ray001> no just using bodhi live cd
[23:00] <bite-android> so i can run and report whatever issues i have with configuring grub in UBUNTU, LOGAN_.
[23:00] <zvacet> Ray001: maybe you do something during install bodhi
[23:01] <Logan_> bite-android: okay, no need to shout
[23:01] <SudoKing> what's a quick way to boot into ubuntu to a terminal without mounting the primary hard drive?
[23:01] <bite-android> lol, whatever.
[23:01] <Ray001> yeah maybe    cant stand windows    linux the best
[23:01] <blue_pearl> Ray001: guess while install u need to selct time zone and in live cd thr is no such option
[23:02] <raido> el_btd: Im looking for it now, its on the tip of my toung and I cant remember it, gimme a sec
[23:02] <Ray001> thanks blue_pearl know what your saying :)
[23:03] <sysop3> why when I a du -sc I get a value 400 gigs bigger than the size of the drive?
[23:03] <blue_pearl> Ray001: welcome
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> SudoKing: you will need to mount the partition to do anything with the data
[23:03] <bite-android> i think something is wrong with my sources.list....
[23:03] <SudoKing> i want to run some fsck utils
[23:03] <arand> SudoKing: Use a LiveCD? (Doing root FS read only should be possible though tricky and limiting, afaik).
[23:03] <raido> el_btd: Here it is: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet
[23:03] <bite-android> because i keep getting failed to fetch errors.
[23:03] <SudoKing> arand: i know about that way... wanted to know if there was a simpler method :/
[23:04] <SudoKing> like could you do it through GRUB?
[23:04] <bite-android> hnnn!
[23:04] <zvacet> bite-android: what is wrong paste it
[23:04] <bite-android> i keep getting error:could not resolve issues.
[23:04] <xkcd123> hello
[23:04] <gil> msg nickserv identify Horzaa
[23:05] <rebirth> how do i update lucid lynx to maverick?
[23:05] <xkcd123> just dropped in to share this insanely awesome video of catalina cruz stripping: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhlOIk_8ljM thank me later!!
[23:05] <jt13> ok , So I have a dual boot machine with windows 7 and 10.10. I had to repair my win 7 installation today and now when I start up the machine it goes directlly into windows. Instead of the menu to allow me to select the os to run. Can anyone help me?
[23:05] <LjL> xkcd123: no. don't do that here.
[23:05] <zvacet> !paste | bite-android:
[23:05] <fabio333> jt13, use easybcdc in windows 7
[23:06] <bite-android> belh...
[23:06] <jt13> thank you
[23:06] <bet> ggg
[23:06] <zvacet> rebirth: via net or with alternate cd
[23:06] <arand> SudoKing: Not sure this is what you want but read-only should be a simple matter of the kernel boot option "ro"
[23:06] <bite-android> its just spazzy.
[23:06] <blue_pearl> jt13: reinstall grub
[23:06] <fabio333> jt13, or just restore grub
[23:06] <captainfreeky> can i know how the and wherte the files get  installed in ubuntu
[23:06] <el_btd> raido, Logan_ : thanks a lot, great starting points for further research
[23:06] <captainfreeky> just new
[23:06] <jt13> blue_pearl,  ok how would I do that?
[23:06] <bite-android> im going to reinstall then entire operating system on that hard drive.
[23:06] <erUSUL> SudoKing: you could change root= kernel parameter to a nonexistent device that way the kernel will fail to load it and you will end up in the intramfs shell
[23:06] <fabio333> easybcd will add an entry to the win 7 bootloader
[23:07] <arand> jt13: Boot a liveCD
[23:07] <LjL> bite-android: you're trying to follow #ubuntu from Android? you're crazy ;(
[23:07] <jt13> fabio333,  meaning what exactlly?
[23:07] <arand> !grub2 | jt13
[23:07] <blue_pearl> jt13: u have to use the live cd.
[23:07] <bite-android> because for whatever reason, i cannot connect to the internet....
[23:07] <zvacet> bite-android : why don´t you paste your source list and then somebody can help you with it
[23:07] <fabio333> meaning that you can start both
[23:07] <jt13> arand and from the live cd do what?
[23:07] <fabio333> !grub
[23:07] <arand> jt13: Follow that guide linked by ubottu
[23:07] <captainfreeky> any one here to guide me plz
[23:07] <futr_vision> New to Ubuntu and Linux. How do you uninstall a LAMP stack?
[23:07] <bite-android> i'm running cli. can i even paste?
[23:07] <fabio333> jt13, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[23:07] <LjL> !info pastebinit | bite-android
[23:07] <Logan_> !ask | captainfreeky
[23:08] <arand> !grub2 | jt13
[23:08] <jt13> arand,  blue_pearl fabio333 thank you guys for the help
[23:08] <SudoKing> erUSUL: does initramfs have all normal utilities and functions (fsck in particular)
[23:08] <arand> jt13: Sorry, last one there is the relevant, for grub2
[23:08] <SudoKing> FloodBot bans ubottu why?
[23:08] <jt13> ok
[23:08] <LjL> SudoKing: because i can't program ;(
[23:08] <erUSUL> SudoKing: it has minimal set. dunno if e2fsck is included
[23:08] <Logan_> SudoKing: +q doesn't apply to ubottu
[23:08] <LjL> SudoKing: anyway it doesn't, it just *un*bans it
[23:08] <SudoKing> ah
[23:08] <bite-android> ugh!
[23:09] <blue_pearl> jt13: always happy to help :)
[23:09] <bite-android>  i think im just not connected to the network!
[23:09] <Logan_> !botsnack | blue_pearl
[23:09] <SudoKing> Logan_: well it wasn't a +q D;
[23:09] <Logan_> oops
[23:09] <Logan_> !helpersnack | blue_pearl
[23:09] <captainfreeky> when any soft installed in ubuntu where does all installation files goes ?
[23:09] <SudoKing> LjL: aww... no whitelist possibility? :[
[23:09] <erUSUL> !cookie | Logan_
[23:09] <Logan_> blue_pearl: didn't mean to imply that you were a bot :P
[23:09] <LjL> SudoKing: there is a whitelist, that's why it only unbans it and not bans it :)
[23:09] <Logan_> thanks erUSUL :D
[23:10] <erUSUL> :P
[23:10] <SudoKing> LjL: so why not do nothing at all :D
[23:10] <bite-android> pinging google.com....,
[23:10] <bite-android> google is an unkown host?
[23:10] <LjL> SudoKing: see the part where i can't program ;(
[23:10] <bite-android> ugh, i must be disconnected...
[23:10] <SudoKing> hmm
[23:10] <arand> bite-android: Seems to imply that.
[23:10] <LjL> captainfreeky: in various places. "dpkg -l  packagename" to find out
[23:10] <bite-android> though i dont know why.
[23:10] <SudoKing> LjL: C++?
[23:10] <LjL> SudoKing: PHP :P
[23:10] <SudoKing> aww.
[23:10] <SudoKing> I'm a php coder too
[23:10] <Logan_> LjL, SudoKing: #ubuntu-bots ;)
[23:11] <arand> Logan_: -L
[23:11] <SudoKing> sorry logan
[23:11] <bite-android> how can i reconnect?
[23:11] <arand> LjL: -L (sorry Logan_ )
[23:11] <bite-android> i was connected before on the other machine, but im not now...
[23:11] <gil> Can anyone help me with grub? I have borked my grub setup, but I can access /boot through a live CD. Basically grub appears to be installed in the mbr but I cannot recreate grub.cfg - running sudo grub-install on the drive just gives me an 'Installation finished. No error reported' message but doesn't actually set anything up
[23:11] <tripelb> I have a question. So I switched user into my guest account to check that it worked, Ub10.04 - then I chose log out... and the screen went blank. I had to hardboot AFAIK to get a "living breathing system" up.  What did I do? I wanted to log that user out and go back to "me". Could I have recovered? I had no cursor, no anything. Please advise, sincerely, A_User
[23:11] <blue_pearl> bite-android: is ur physical connection ok?
[23:12] <bite-android> Yep.
[23:12] <zvacet> gil : try sudo update-grub
[23:12] <sevith> Where can i see if my ubuntu distro used aslr?
[23:12] <_antant> Hey, I had my tv card working a few days ago and now all of a sudden it's stopped. It's not showing up in lsmod but it is in lspci
[23:12] <sevith> If its enabled i need to disable it
[23:12] <arand> gil: Did you use the --root-directory= option?
[23:12] <_antant> What could be the problem?
[23:12] <gil> zvacet /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `aufs'.
[23:12] <sevith> im on 10.10
[23:12] <bite-android> i think i should just reinstall the server and configure it to this computer....
[23:13] <bite-android> whatever. then i will.
[23:13] <sevith> Anyone?
[23:13] <arand> gil: zvacet: To run that yuo'll need to chroot.
[23:13] <sevith> Anyone?
[23:13] <gil> arand yes - the command I used was sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/boot2 /dev/sda
[23:13] <Logan_> !please | sevith
[23:13] <Jordan_U> gil: Follow this guide : http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[23:13] <sevith> l0l
[23:13] <sevith> !lol
[23:14] <sevith> !please | sevith
[23:14] <gil> Jordan_U thanks I'll give that one a go
[23:14] <sevith> Does anyone know if in ubuntu 10.10 ASLR is on by default? Or where I can check this setting at?
[23:14] <Jordan_U> gil: You're welcome.
[23:14] <bite-android> oh why hullo thar..
[23:15] <bite-android> what the hell are you doing, linux?
[23:15] <Logan_> !language | bite-android
[23:15] <_antant> Hey Jordan_U, can you think why my TV card  (which was working a few days ago) now doesn't show up in lsmod (happily sat in lspci thought) and how I might fix it?
[23:15] <bite-android> its asking me "Boot:"
[23:16] <bite-android> logan, sorry, but i stuck in the boot disk for ubuntu and ims getting weird results.
[23:16] <Jordan_U> bite-android: Are you trying to boot from the install CD?
[23:16] <bite-android> yep.
[23:16] <bite-android> jordan_u, yeah, but its being strange....
[23:16] <Jordan_U> bite-android: That's a syslinux (the booltloader used in Ubuntu CD images) prompt. Why you're getting it instead of a menu I don't know.
[23:17] <a_p3rson> Is there any way to figure out what images/resources a program uses, without manually changing the images to find it?
[23:17] <bite-android> my IDE cd drive is slaved to my master second hdd...
[23:17] <bite-android> could that be an issue?
[23:18] <The_Rufus> I need someone to help me rather urgently. Firstly, yes, I have googled and read everything on this subject but nothing seems to work. I need to install Ubuntu Server on my brand new server with 5x2Tb HDD's using a linux software RAID in RAID5. Only 4 drives seem to be able to be used at any given time though. I'm in front of my PC now ready to go. I'm installing the OS on a usb flash drive so it won't be BOOTING from the RAID array
[23:19] <gil> JordanU I'm struggling with this - sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev - /mnt/dev does not exist
[23:19] <Jordan_U> The_Rufus: What are the symptoms of the problem you are having?
[23:19] <Jordan_U> gil: Then you mounted the wrong partition to /mnt/.
[23:19] <mang0> Guys im putting ubuntu on a usb stick not as liveusb but as the full operating system. how do i make an usb stick bootable? in the bios?
[23:20] <gil> Jordan_U I couldn't mount to mnt because access was denied when I tried to create /mnt/boot - I tried to create /media/boot and access was denied then too, so I mounted it to /media/boot2
[23:20] <blue_pearl> mang0: use firstboot device as usb
[23:20] <Logan_> !usb | mang0
[23:20] <rebirth> how can i edit sources.list directly? there is a bad entry causing an error during update
[23:20] <a_p3rson> Is there any way to figure out what images/resources a program uses, without manually changing the images to find it?
[23:21] <mang0> setting that in bios?
[23:21] <LjL> rebirth: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> mang0: press F11 or F12 at boot and select the USB to boot. Not all BIOSes can boot USB so you may need some extra trickery
[23:21] <mang0> K
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> a_p3rson: how do you mean "images"?
[23:21] <a_p3rson> mang0: At the post screen, you can also hit F8 to select boot device
[23:21] <icewaterman> can anyone help me setup pulse?
[23:21] <icewaterman> i have sound in some applications if i specify them to use alsa
[23:21] <mang0> Thankyou and good night!
[23:21] <icewaterman> but pulse doesnt offer any devices
[23:22] <Logan_> !pulse | icewaterman
[23:22] <icewaterman> hence it doesnt playback anything
[23:22] <icewaterman> Logan_: have read that doesnt help
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> icewaterman: is the system a branded PC or laptop?
[23:22] <icewaterman> ActionParsnip: laptop
[23:22] <sevith> Does ubuntu 10.10  ADDRESS SPACE RANDOMIZATION
[23:22] <a_p3rson> ActionParsnip: With gnome-session, when I get the "shut down" screen, the restart icon is the wrong one, but theres about 16 copies of the same image, I want to see which one it's looking at (this in the theme).
[23:22] <The_Rufus> well, I set up the RAID partitioning and get the OS installed only to find it's instantly degraded and one of the drives is missing. all hdd's are tested ok. I've tried with 4 drives and it's fine, i've tried swapping drives around and to no avail. if there are 5 drives in my array, it doesn't work
[23:22] <erUSUL> sevith: afaik it does yes
[23:22] <sevith> does it use*
[23:22] <Jordan_U> gil: Don't try to work around problems on your own in this case. Following the instructions exactly is critical so just tell me any error message you get and I will help you solve the problem correctly.
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> icewaterman: what make and model please
[23:22] <sevith> erUSUL, Is there a way to turn ASLR of?
[23:22] <sevith> off*?
[23:23] <icewaterman> ActionParsnip: acer extensa 5635
[23:23] <The_Rufus> I'm in the "Partition disks" section of the install now
[23:23] <The_Rufus> no data on any drives as yet, so I can format and partition at will
[23:23] <sevith> The_Rufus, hrrm
[23:24] <Jordan_U> The_Rufus: Does any OS see all 5 disks at once? It might be a motherboard / Power supply issue.
[23:24] <a_p3rson> ActionParsnip: any idea?
[23:24] <The_Rufus> ok, on the 4gb flash drive I've setup an ext4 system which is /boot
[23:24] <bite-android> i dont understand whats wrong, why its asking me for boot as opposed to a loading screen....
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> a_p3rson: not sure at all
[23:24] <erUSUL> sevith: with /proc/sys/kernel/randomize_va_space
[23:24] <The_Rufus> Jordan_U: not a psu issue. plenty of wattage and all 5 drives do detect with no hassles
[23:24] <sevith> erUSUL, Your awesome thanks
[23:24] <erUSUL> sevith: probably you can add it to sysctl.conf ( /etc/sysctl.conf )
[23:25] <a_p3rson> ActionParsnip: there isn't any program that can look at currently running processes, and see what files they are referencing? like Systernals Resource Monitor on Windows?
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> icewaterman: did you add: options snd-hda-intel model=acer    in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> a_p3rson: there is: lsof    which shows all currently opened files, pipe it into less or grep to make it useful
[23:25] <sevith> erUSUL, Correct me if Im wrong before I MUCK something up. that file has a setting of 2. If I switch to 0 this will turn aslr off? Correct?
[23:26] <icewaterman> ActionParsnip: not yet
[23:26] <sevith> erUSUL, echo "0" > /proc/sys/kernel/randomize_va_space  ?  This should do the trick then?
[23:26] <gil> Jordan_U ok thanks - I'll literally report back every error message - just going back to the start of the instructions
[23:26] <erUSUL> sevith: probably
[23:26] <icewaterman> ActionParsnip: i will reboot to see if that works
[23:27] <erUSUL> sevith: you need to use sudo « echo 0 | sudo tee /proc/sys/kernel/randomize_va_space »
[23:27] <a_p3rson> ActionParsnip: how would I set up grep to filter lsof results to "gnome-session" results?
[23:27] <sevith> erUSUL, How badly will i muck stuff up doing this though....
[23:27] <Jordan_U> The_Rufus: Please give exact symptoms rather than your interpretation. So rather than "degraded and one of the drives is missing" say something like "I get error foo at boot and there is only sda through sdd visible in /dev/"
[23:28] <erUSUL> sevith: you give up some security. nothing bad should result from it appart from being a little bit more vulnerable to some attacks
[23:28] <sevith> erUSUL, Alright Ill give it a try and see if this fixes my debug issues :(
[23:28] <macrocat> any reasons why my microphone isn't picking up input in ubuntu? i checked alsamixer and mic, front mic and mic boost are up all the way
[23:28] <erUSUL> sevith: why you feel you need to switch it off ?
[23:29] <icewaterman> ActionParsnip: adding that line didnt help :-(
[23:30] <icewaterman> ActionParsnip: the chip seems to be from Conexant
[23:30] <The_Rufus> i'll get the details and be back
[23:31] <Shockcore> hello, question here, when i connect to my box in SSH, the french accent are not displayed properly why ?
[23:31] <gil> Jordan_U I think I just managed to do the whole thing - certainly created a .cfg file - I'll reboot and see how it goes! :)
[23:31] <erUSUL> Shockcore: probably problem of the ssh client? is another ubuntu box?
[23:32] <Shockcore> nope
[23:32] <Shockcore> i mean it's always in terminal
[23:32] <Shockcore> when using gnome it's fine
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> icewaterman: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[23:32] <sevith> erUSUL, Going to reboot and see if this works...bbs
[23:32] <Shockcore> must be some sort of "locale" command i need to do
[23:33] <JoseeAntonioR> Hello! I have a problem with Ubuntu ShipIt. I cannot check my order status, it says I cannot order more CDs. I haven't recieved any CD from Canonical, never.
[23:33] <a_p3rson> JoseeAntonioR: First, you do know that you can download the file, right?
[23:34] <a_p3rson> !download | JoseeAntonioR
[23:34] <JoseeAntonioR> a_p3rson ubottu I have a very low bandwidth.
[23:34] <a_p3rson> ahh ok
[23:34] <macrocat> anyone have any idea what might be wrong?
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> macrocat: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[23:35] <icewaterman> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=672f7fd18974b71e707db3727bcd8c8213ce7f26
[23:35] <a_p3rson> JoseeAntonioR: It could have something to do with the release of 11.04, Canonical may have been swamped.
[23:35] <macrocat> ActionParsnip, http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=f114b8f98d61623885699787902402d59c38afff
[23:36] <JoseeAntonioR> a_p3rson And do you know if I can pre-order an 11.04 CD, so I have it shipped as soon as possible?
[23:36] <a_p3rson> JoseeAntonioR: Not sure, would need to check the website.
[23:37]  * sevith quits at life.
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> icewaterman: try running: alsamixer    and cranking levels and unmjuting as needed
[23:37] <icewaterman> ActionParsnip: thats the first thing i tried
[23:37] <Gil> Jordan_U I still have a grub> prompt :(  - however ls / is showing me kernels so that's a start I suppose
[23:38] <Jordan_U> Gil: And you followed those instructions exactly?
[23:38] <icewaterman> ActionParsnip: alsamixer doesnt show me pulse, only the device directly
[23:38] <Shockcore> hello, question here, when i connect to my box in SSH, the french accent are not displayed properly. Whats the command to fix this?
[23:38] <jt13> ok i was in here a few ago with the problem with my grub. someone posted a tutorial and it isn't working. I am told to input "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/Ubuntu /dev/sda3" into terminal and yes the "Ubuntu" is my ubuntu partition as well as the "/dev/sda3" can someone help me?
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> icewaterman: also try in alsa-base.conf   model=generic   or    model=laptop   instead of   model=acer   like before
[23:39] <Gil> Jordan_U I followed them exactly - it even created a grub.cfg file and listed all the kernels it found on /boot#
[23:39] <JoseeAntonioR> a_p3rson Well. I have already called Canonical because of this problem. I hope that they help me to get an 11.04 CD.
[23:40] <Jordan_U> jt13: You almost never want to install grub to a partition like /dev/sda3, always /dev/sda. And I prefer this guide using chroot: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> macrocat: http://pastie.org/1701930
[23:41] <jt13> Jordan_U,  whats the difference? and I thought I was supposed to install it to the sda3 since thats my ubuntu partition?
[23:41] <luxurymode> hey guys, quick question. i download a tar and extracted it. the folder contains an executable file and i can run the program from there. im wondering how to actually "integrate" with my system though, so i dont have to find the executable in the folder everytime.
[23:41] <MrBushido> what do i want to google for to find out about creating dummy user accounts to run service apps? E.g. www-data for apache2
[23:41] <macrocat> ActionParsnip, it says it could not find the file
[23:42] <jt13> Jordan_U,  thats what the guide i was given said nyway
[23:42] <Jordan_U> jt13: The practical difference is that http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide is harder to get wrong accidentily. No, you need grub's boot sector to be in the mbr, the first sector of the disk, which is where the BIOS will look for it.
[23:43] <sevith> You dont need an MBR lets not be silly....
[23:43] <sevith> You can overwrite the MBR all day long :)
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> macrocat: gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[23:43] <Jordan_U> jt13: The guide you were given was wrong.
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> macrocat: is that better (possible typo)
[23:43] <arielsanflo> muchas gracias por su ayuda
[23:43] <Gil> Jordan_U cat /grub/grub.cfg gives me a file not found :-\    it definitely created the cfg file though, saw it in output! going to try and manually boot into a kernel and see what's happening there
[23:43] <jt13> Jordan_U, ok I am reading the link you gave me now. Thank you for your assistance. it was much needed
[23:44] <Jordan_U> jt13: You're welcome.
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> luxurymode: make a symlink to the binary in /usr/bin (give the link a weird name), then make a launcher to run the link
[23:44] <Akuma_s> Hello there.. I need a little help with GRUB 2
[23:44] <macrocat> k be right back rebooting
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> Gil: it'll be /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[23:44] <Akuma_s> I've been reading info about it all afternoon and something is wrong
[23:45] <Jordan_U> Gil: Try "search --file /boot/grub/grub.cfg; search --file /grub/grub.cfg" to see if either are found on any disks / partitions.
[23:45] <luxurymode> ActionParsnip: just make a path to a nonexistent file in usr/bin?
[23:45] <Akuma_s> /boot/grub/grub.cfg is not the main file for it
[23:45] <pssalman> is lubuntu stable?
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> luxurymode: exactly
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> pssalman: i'd say so
[23:45] <Gil> ActionParsnip /boot/grub/grub.cfg also not found
[23:45] <luxurymode> ActionParsnip: great thanks dude
[23:46] <_antant> Hey guys. I have a TV card that will no longer work as of a few days ago. It shows up in lspci, but not in lsmod. If I modprobe the driver it shows up in lsmod but doesn't work. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I might try?
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> luxurymode: not too wacky so you don't know what it is
[23:46] <Zelda> my clock is gone. how do I install it again?
[23:46] <pssalman> actionparsnip: is it better than the normal version of ubuntu
[23:46] <Gil> Jordan_U I just did linux /vmlinuz-xxxx root =/dev/sda6 and it just returned a prompt - what am I missing there to boot manually?
[23:46] <Zelda> the clock in the top right with the calender
[23:46] <sevith> sudo apt-get install clock
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> _antant: is it pci or usb based?
[23:46] <sevith> lol
[23:46] <Zelda> that easy huh?
[23:46] <Akuma_s> The system is using another copy of grub.cfg wich I can't find, and this is becoming annoying indeed
[23:46] <sevith> Zelda, no
[23:46] <Starminn> Zelda: Right-click panel->Add to Panel...->Clock
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> pssalman: it uses lighter apps in order to use fewer resources
[23:46] <leg3nd> Hey does anyone know of a way to make an apache based SVN server use a URL such as "/scripts" rather then "/home/svn/scripts"?
[23:46] <sevith> Zelda, What starminn said.
[23:47] <Zelda> thanks guys
[23:47] <_antant> ActionParsnip: it's pci-e
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> pssalman: so it uses abiword and gnumeric instead of openoffice and chromium instead of firefox
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> _antant: pci-e tvcard???
[23:47] <_antant> yup
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> pssalman: and xfburn instead of gnomebaker
[23:47] <_antant> pci-e x1
[23:47] <pssalman> actionparsnip: but i still can install what ever i want and use what ever i want?
[23:47] <arielsanflo_> un canal de c en español
[23:47] <arielsanflo_> por fa
[23:47] <Jordan_U> Gil: 1: There should be no space between 'root' and '=/dev/sda6'. 2: You need to load an initrd with the 'initrd' command 3: Once you've properly loaded a kernel and initrd you need to run 'boot'.
[23:47] <Jordan_U> !es | arielsanflo_
[23:47] <Starminn> Zelda: You didn't need to install it. It was installed already. You just needed to add it to the panel again. :)
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> pssalman: sure, its still ubuntu. If you want to add stuff to it then you can
[23:47] <luxurymode> ActionParsnip: i can just use the right-click and use "make link"?
[23:48] <leg3nd> antant,  that must be one beefy tuner card
[23:48] <Zelda> starminn: thanks
[23:48] <Akuma_s> arielsanflo, #ubuntu-es
[23:48] <Abrahim> hi, all
[23:48] <_antant> it's a dual tuner
[23:48] <Zelda> I dont know why I didnt think of that
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> _antant: freaky, ok then I suggest you use the line representing it in lspci to find guides
[23:48] <pssalman> actionparsnip: thank you.. i will give it a shot
[23:48] <_antant> Yeah, I've tried that.
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> luxurymode: run:    sudo ln -s /path/to/binary /usr/bin/linkname
[23:49] <Starminn> Zelda: :) Sometimes you just need a sounding board. Best of wishes.
[23:49] <Abrahim> where are u from?
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> luxurymode: obviously change the /path/to/binary bit and the linkname
[23:49] <cache_> hola muñecos como estan
[23:49] <Zelda> Starminn: thanks! Heh, my mind isnt thinking
[23:49] <Jordan_U> !es | cache_
[23:49] <leg3nd> Hey does anyone know of a way to make an apache based SVN server use a URL such as "/scripts" rather then "/home/svn/scripts"?
[23:49] <Gil> Jordan_U thanks for that :) Booting now....
[23:49] <Jordan_U> Gil: You're welcome.
[23:50] <Abrahim> how can i configured my sound?
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> luxurymode: then you can create a desktop launcher or even run: alacarte     and add it to the menu system as you wish
[23:50] <luxurymode> ActionParsnip: cool. and to make a launcher i can just add a menu item?
[23:50] <aleks19> come registrare  nick??
[23:50] <macrocat> ActionParsnip, none of those worked
[23:51] <Jordan_U> !es | aleks19
[23:51] <erUSUL> !register | aleks19
[23:51] <erUSUL> Jordan_U: it :)
[23:51] <jt13> Jordan_U, ok I'm having trouble. It tells me to "fdisk" and find my linux partition which is /dev/sda3 and then to "sudo mount/dev/sda3/mnt" but I keep getting a command not fount error.
[23:52] <jt13> sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt
[23:52] <_antant> ok, when I use 'lspci -vvnn' I get 'Capabilities: <access denied>'
[23:52] <jt13> oops
[23:52] <Jordan_U> erUSUL: Thanks :)
[23:52] <_antant> Any idea what would cause that?
[23:52] <luxurymode> ActionParsnip: nevermind, i see. system > pref > main menu
[23:52] <sevith> _antant, try sudo
[23:52] <sevith> _antant, try sudo lspci -vvnn ? ? ?
[23:53] <_antant> lol. oops.
[23:53] <_antant> what a muppet
[23:55] <Jordan_U> jt13: As I think you figured out, the spaces between arguments in a command are important.
[23:56] <jt13> Jordan_U,  yea i got it. in the tutorial it doesn't appear to be spaces but I tried it anyway and bam. thanks
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> macrocat: not sure then, that's all I can suggest. Keep that link handy though. It's dead handy
[23:56] <macrocat> okay, thanks ActionParsnip
[23:58] <jt13> Jordan_U,  ok but i'm still getting the same "cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?) and I mounted /dev
[23:58] <Gil> Jordan_U really stupid question - if there is a file in /boot/grub called crub.cfg that seems to contain entries for all my kernels, is it safe to just cp that to grub.cfg?
[23:59] <Radram> Does anybody know how i can manually install wireless drivers?
[23:59] <icewaterman> ActionParsnip: neither option helped with my connexant soundcard (intel-hda)
[23:59] <Radram> If I have them on a flash drive