| ScottL | bug #726199 | 01:49 |
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| ubottu | Launchpad bug 726199 in ubuntustudio-menu (Ubuntu) "[natty] ubuntustudio-menu does not show all applications in correct menus" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/726199 | 01:49 |
| ScottL | anybody do a full install of ubuntu studio lately? did the plymouth theme work or was it a light blue screen? | 02:00 |
| ScottL | holstein, it looks like the network indicator in natty already indicates when the network is unplugged (at least it did for me on my alpha3 install) | 02:01 |
| ScottL | at least it think it was alpha 3 install | 02:01 |
| ailo | ScottL, I've had the plymoth fail after some upgrade. I should install the latest to see how things work. | 03:11 |
| ailo | Hey abogani | 11:06 |
| abogani | ailo: Hi | 11:06 |
| ailo | I haven't been testing the kernels for a while. I took out my wireless card, so I tried quckly now, but it seems I can still get a few random xruns | 11:07 |
| ailo | It didn't happen while the computer was idle. Last time when I was using the browser. | 11:07 |
| ailo | But I suppose it could be anything | 11:09 |
| ailo | I should test on other systems. I compiled a kernel for Debian using vanilla source, and it seemed to work a little better on another PC. I should try different things on this one. | 11:11 |
| ailo | I'm currently running on Ubuntu, and it's using a lot of memory. I should switch to Ubuntustudio to do some testing there as well. | 11:12 |
| abogani | For avoid x-runs completely we have to use -realtime kernel. | 11:14 |
| ailo | Well, I can use this kernel on a higher latency setting, and still get good enough latency for production use, so I'm quite happy with this kernel in that sense, but I suppose for so many other hardware a -realtime will be a big help. | 11:18 |
| abogani | ailo: In any case your approach is the best: -lowlatency is more stable, updated, secure and compatible. | 11:20 |
| ailo | Hey T0rCh_raony , what's up? | 11:32 |
| T0rCh_raony | hey ailo | 11:33 |
| T0rCh_raony | still didn't had time to work on the indicator applet, but i will take a look this week | 11:34 |
| ailo | T0rCh_raony, No hurry. No one has decided on anything either, so it would just be an example application. falktx has been working on some software for KXStudio which has similar functions. | 11:35 |
| T0rCh_raony | cool, do you have his repository ? | 11:35 |
| ailo | Let's see.. | 11:36 |
| ailo | T0rCh_raony, git://repo.or.cz/cadence.git | 11:36 |
| ailo | T0rCh_raony, build depends: python-qt4-devel pyqt4-dev-tools ladspa-sdk dssi-dev libasound2-dev | 11:37 |
| T0rCh_raony | ok | 11:37 |
| ailo | T0rCh_raony, runtime depends: libjack0 python-rdflib python-qt4-dbus python-qt4-gl jack-capture | 11:37 |
| T0rCh_raony | hey falktx | 11:38 |
| ailo | T0rCh_raony, You can look in the make file to see what apps there are. Do make, and make install. | 11:38 |
| T0rCh_raony | ok | 11:39 |
| ailo | T0rCh_raony, And the app Carla needs to be compiled separately, make Carla | 11:39 |
| falktx | T0rCh_raony: step are actually "make" and "make carla" <- unstable app | 11:39 |
| falktx | apps usable so far: | 11:39 |
| falktx | - audio_test_plugin | 11:39 |
| falktx | - catarina (canvas test) | 11:40 |
| falktx | - catia (jack patchbay) | 11:40 |
| falktx | - claudia (jack patchbay+ladish gui) | 11:40 |
| falktx | - carla (multi-plugin host) | 11:40 |
| falktx | - xycontroller | 11:41 |
| falktx | small tools: | 11:41 |
| falktx | - jacksettings | 11:41 |
| falktx | - logs | 11:41 |
| falktx | - render | 11:41 |
| falktx | and that'is it | 11:41 |
| falktx | to run them: | 11:41 |
| T0rCh_raony | cool | 11:41 |
| falktx | python src/<app-name>.py | 11:41 |
| T0rCh_raony | looks promissing | 11:41 |
| falktx_ | some this network sucks... | 11:43 |
| falktx_ | please say again | 11:43 |
| ailo | Actually, I think the runtime depend should be libjack-jack2-0 | 11:48 |
| === falktx_ is now known as falktx | ||
| ScottL | abogani, the -lowlatency kernel built in my ppa last night :) | 12:10 |
| abogani | ScottL: :-) | 12:32 |
| === falktx__ is now known as falktx | ||
| ailo | scott-work, I installed us-natty alpha 3 right now. I think at least two tasksels are not working now. I wasn't able to identify which ones. I could reinstall on Virtualbox later to find out. | 18:16 |
| ailo | Also, I must have forgotten before, but installing from usb is no problem, if using unetbootin, but this is perhaps known already. | 18:17 |
| holstein | ailo: yeah? | 18:17 |
| holstein | no complaints about where the install media is ? | 18:17 |
| holstein | thats great :) | 18:17 |
| ailo | holstein, Yeah, it works pretty smoothly. I just choose the iso, and make the usb. | 18:18 |
| scott-work | ailo: that's interesting about the tasksel | 18:18 |
| holstein | theres a really nice reporting option | 18:19 |
| holstein | in the installer | 18:19 |
| holstein | makes a webserver | 18:19 |
| scott-work | when alpha 3 was released i installed all and they worked then :( | 18:19 |
| holstein | for you to se the log of what failed | 18:19 |
| ailo | holstein, How does that work? | 18:19 |
| scott-work | ailo: but that is good news about installing from usb though :) | 18:19 |
| holstein | cjwatson got me hip to it last time i was trying to sort out what taskselect failed | 18:19 |
| holstein | ailo: i'll have to get it in front of me | 18:19 |
| holstein | BUT, i remember... | 18:20 |
| holstein | its in the alternate installer list | 18:20 |
| holstein | where is says like 'partition disks' | 18:20 |
| holstein | something about 'view logs' ? | 18:20 |
| holstein | near te bottom i remember* | 18:20 |
| ailo | Ok. I'll try installing on Virtualbox later today. This time I tried installing all tasksels, and taking one out each time it failed, but that didn't help, so that's why I thought it must be at least two that doesn't work. | 18:22 |
| scott-work | ailo: you can also see: /var/log/install/syslog | 18:22 |
| scott-work | if you can get to tty2 | 18:22 |
| ailo | scott-work, Only during install? | 18:23 |
| ailo | I seem to remember dropping to shell is not so hard. Is the same? Ctrl - Alt - F1? | 18:24 |
| scott-work | ailo: if you can get the install to finish then you can get to it however you want | 18:24 |
| scott-work | but yeah, you may need to drop to shell during install to see what the error is | 18:24 |
| scott-work | i _think_ i'm done with my current natty install so might try to reinstall it this weekend | 18:24 |
| ailo | I've been on regular Ubuntu too much, so I figured, I need to get the hang of the US Desktop. | 18:25 |
| * ailo rebooting.. | 18:28 | |
| ailo | ScottL, holstein: Did have a strange experience when booting into US alpha 3 first time. ubuntustudio-desktop wasn't installed. | 19:28 |
| ailo | When I booted in, instead of coming to a terminal prompt, the screen just went to sleep, and I had to do Ctrl -> Alt -> Del to reboot | 19:29 |
| T0rCh_raony | something weird here ...I like to use wicd for a thousand reasons, when I was trying to remove networkmanager it was asking me to remove ubuntustudio-desktop together, what this package contains ? | 19:30 |
| ailo | I installed ubuntustudio-desktop, and after that I was able to boot into the desktop | 19:30 |
| ailo | T0rCh_raony, ubuntustudio-desktop is just a met-package, so there's no worry | 19:30 |
| ailo | meta-package | 19:30 |
| T0rCh_raony | I know cause it didn't cause any damage to the system :) | 19:31 |
| ailo | It depends on all the packages that you need for ubuntustudio-desktop, so installing that package, all of the dependencies will be installed. | 19:32 |
| T0rCh_raony | oh, I see | 19:32 |
| ailo | ScottL, Also, my screen wasn't looking good. I know from a previous installation that I had problems with corrupted graphics. I probably should have reacted then, but there was a lot going on with the standard Ubuntu Desktop at the time | 19:33 |
| ailo | ScottL, This time, only part of the screen was used. | 19:33 |
| ailo | Installing nvidia drivers solved it | 19:34 |
| ailo | scott-work, Just had some problems with the post-install of US alpha 3 | 19:37 |
| scott-work | doh | 19:40 |
| scott-work | wait, "post-install" ? which part then | 19:40 |
| ailo | scott-work, ubuntustudio-desktop hadn't been installed. | 19:41 |
| ailo | It didn't boot into prompt even, but from recovery mode, I was able to install ubuntustudio-desktop. After that, I was able to boot to desktop, but only part of the screen was in use. Installing nvidia drivers made the screen look normal | 19:42 |
| ailo | I'm doing a new install on Virtualbox now, in case there was something strange with the usb stick | 19:42 |
| ailo | T0rCh_raony, Which version did you install. Was it a daily build? | 19:44 |
| T0rCh_raony | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/natty/alpha-3/ | 19:47 |
| ailo | Ok, so I can confirm that installing from usb stick was maybe not such a good idea after all | 19:49 |
| scott-work | ailo: oh, you were isntalling from usb with that....hmmmmm, interesting | 19:50 |
| scott-work | but still, it would be wicked to get usb install working though | 19:50 |
| ailo | Even the tasksel looked different. Seems like all the tasksels are working too | 19:50 |
| ailo | I suppose getting a usb installation working shouldn't be that far away, since at least the base system installs. | 19:53 |
| ailo | scott-work, Have you talked with MacInnis, or what's his name? Our art man.. | 19:58 |
| scott-work | briefly, i'm about 1/2 way through with announcing him on the mailing list, forums, et al | 20:00 |
| scott-work | work and home are still pretty jumping for me | 20:01 |
| scott-work | even though i managed to get some other issues resolve for more time | 20:01 |
| ailo | scott-work, Did you look at his art? I checked out his PPA before, and installed the theme | 20:02 |
| scott-work | yeah? what did you think? | 20:04 |
| scott-work | i've looked at his website, both personal with music/videos, and dream studio | 20:05 |
| scott-work | i think he's a helluva creative guy with some talent | 20:05 |
| ailo | I'm not totally crazy about the theme, though. I would want to raise the bar a little for Ubuntu Studio. | 20:07 |
| ailo | I like that there are three versions, ambience light, ambience and ambience dark, or something like that | 20:08 |
| ailo | I was agreeing with him on the strategy, to try use Ubuntu's theme as base, but pimp it and make it look Ubuntu Studio. | 20:12 |
| ailo | I've already been working on Humanity based Icons, so perhaps I might as well try get those finished as an alternative. | 20:13 |
| ailo | It's funny how installing ubuntustudio-desktop afterwards gave a different default setup for panels and such | 20:16 |
| ailo | I mean, even before any desktop had been installed | 20:17 |
| scott-work | ailo: i would like to develop multiple themes and let some group, either focus group or user base as a whole, decide which one to install as default | 20:22 |
| ailo | scott-work, Sounds like a good idea | 20:22 |
| scott-work | i would REALLY like to develop that black and grey theme we looked at before | 20:23 |
| scott-work | in my opinion that is the best looking dark theme i have ever seen | 20:23 |
| ailo | scott-work, I guess there doesn't need to be just one. But only one can be installed by default. I like dark, but it has to be functional. Otherwise, I would at least only admire it, but never use it. Haven't used that one, but that's pretty much how I've felt about most dark themes. | 20:25 |
| ailo | Don't let me close any doors, though :P | 20:26 |
| ailo | scott-work, There's no Desktop volume control. Don't we need the indicator-applet? | 20:35 |
| scott-work | i would like to add it, yes | 20:36 |
| scott-work | i've always had to go to pavu control to set the volume | 20:36 |
| scott-work | i'm not sure what is involved however because i believe we are using a gconf settings file to set the panels up | 20:37 |
| ailo | scott-work, pavu control would be unneeded once there is a volume control. There's also padevchooser which is outdated | 20:37 |
| scott-work | if you would figure out which applet is needed i will see about updating the gconf file | 20:38 |
| ailo | I'll fool around with it. | 20:39 |
| ailo | scott-work, Just quickly testing on Virtualbox. For some reason, and I think this happened before, gtk isn't working properly. But, about the indicator applet. After updating the system, there was no problem adding it. | 21:02 |
| ailo | The indicator applet is apart of the standard set of applets already when doing a fresh install. | 21:04 |
| scott-work | i'll try adding it to my natty install tonight then | 21:31 |
| scott-work | i think this file is where it is set: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-default-settings/UbuntuStudio/files | 21:32 |
| scott-work | ubuntustudio-panel-settings.entries | 21:32 |
| scott-work | i'll see if i can find it first, make a copy, add the indicator, then diff the two files and see what pops out | 21:33 |
| ailo | scott-work, I've only tried copying a custom made file. I should see if that is enough to create a new file. | 21:33 |
| scott-work | at least that's the plan | 21:33 |
| ailo | I mean, after adding something, you copy the file | 21:34 |
| ailo | Don't know if something else is added to that, but could be worth a shor | 21:34 |
| ailo | shot* | 21:34 |
| ailo | I'm talking unclearly as usual. Just to be clear: Could be, if you add the indicator, that the file in home directory just needs to be saved. | 21:35 |
| scott-work | copy the file first because when i add the indicator i think it will change that file | 21:36 |
| scott-work | i'm hoping that's what happens | 21:36 |
| scott-work | oh, i think i know what you are saying | 21:36 |
| scott-work | i can't use the new, update file to update the package, i won't be uploading a brand new file to the repos | 21:37 |
| ailo | Yeah, I'm not making a lot of sense :). After you add something, could be you just need to save the file that was edited in home directory | 21:37 |
| scott-work | but to update the package in the repos i need to have a diff file of just the changes | 21:37 |
| scott-work | the diff file will be patched to the package in the repos | 21:38 |
| ailo | I guess, the default file will be intact somewhere in /usr/share/* don't remember where it is. Then, after adding the indicator, just make a diff between that and the file in home directory, wherever it was. Don't know if that will work, cause I don't know if something more is added to the file in home, like some additional info. | 21:40 |
| ailo | scott-work, No, it doesn't seem to work, I think. | 21:45 |
| ailo | scott-work, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man8/update-gconf-defaults.8.html | 21:47 |
| ailo | I was looking for some tools to generate default gconf settings | 21:47 |
| ailo | Anyway, I have to sleep.. | 21:49 |
| scott-work | goodnight and thanks | 21:50 |
| scott-work | heh, that link reminds me of the install file under /debian | 21:51 |
| scott-work | ubuntustudio-panel-settings.entries /usr/share/gconf/schemas/ | 21:51 |
| scott-work | it installs that entry file to that directory | 21:51 |
| TheMuso | c | 22:59 |
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