[00:09] \o/ Unity is compiling! [00:34] \o/ Unity compiled. However there is no cpp plugin when I try setting up the test environment. Hmm. [00:50] jjardon: well, I'm still online for a bit... === Omega is now known as bootri === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth === chaotic_ is now known as chaotic === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth === _LibertyZero is now known as LibertyZero [07:25] good morning [07:52] good morning [07:52] (oops sorry wrong channel) [08:04] good morning [08:05] greetings folks [08:06] zniavre_: good morning still! :) [08:16] :o) [08:30] that s funny i can run compiz only with unity-2d ... :o) === API is now known as Guest83910 === Guest83910 is now known as apinheiro [09:37] MacSlow, can you please fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/729074 so i can finish the zeitgeist powered jumplists for you [09:37] Ubuntu bug 729074 in unity "dynamic quicklists are not working" [Medium,Triaged] [09:37] seiflotfy, yes that's on my plate for this week [09:40] MacSlow, thanks === ogra is now known as Guest42038 === Guest42038 is now known as ogra_ === daker_ is now known as daker [10:11] kamstrup, [10:11] the launcher also does not expose the .desktop files on it via dbus [10:11] and [10:11] and I cant find a signal that tells me that a new .desktop file has been added [10:12] seiflotfy: right, that's unfortunately not something we can do for natty [10:13] seiflotfy: you can pull out the sticky apps from gsettings afaik though [10:38] seb128: now that the new zeitgeist-datahub is in, we should drop the zeitgeist gio module package [10:38] seb128: libzeitgeist-gio that is [10:53] kamstrup, ok thanks [11:01] didrocks: hey, so, noted that the patch isn't working - I know there were issues, but needed a more stable box to test on. Back from illness now and have an intel netbook to test on :) [11:02] robtaylor: no worry :) hope you feel better! [11:02] didrocks: thanks! yeah, feelingf a hell of a lot better today, thankfully :D [11:03] didrocks: I think the issue is probably that I'm setting the restart state too early. Going to try that now once compiz is built on this netbook [11:04] robtaylor: there is an ABI beakage recently, so ensure that all plugins are updated with the new core [11:04] didrocks: thanks for the warning! [11:07] didrocks: so dbarth mentioned a gnome integration patch that needs merging. Do you know much about that? [11:07] robtaylor: hum, not at all, I thought he discussed about your session patch :) [11:08] ahh [11:09] well, lets get that fixed and merged today then ;) [11:13] that will be nice :) [11:25] didrocks: one bug to go, and I'll start rolling releases for you. I have libzeitgeist, libunity, and u-p-* for you today [11:25] kamstrup: excellent! [11:26] klattimer: ping? hi karl [11:26] dbarth: hey [11:26] klattimer: are there branches you need reviews for today [11:26] not for review [11:26] klattimer: today is the last day to land things in on time for the beta freeze [11:26] ok, well nope not today [11:27] klattimer: tarballs are due this evening [11:27] klattimer: but later, it's going to be even harder to land, right? [11:27] klattimer: what are the bugs / branches you still have on your plate? [11:27] yeah a few minor ones [11:27] and one crasher I can't reproduce [11:28] klattimer: all are on the 3.6.8 and 3.8 bug lists? [11:28] ie https://launchpad.net/unity-foundations/+milestone/unity-3.6.8 [11:28] and following [11:29] klattimer: however, mpt filed a couple of last minute string updates [11:29] klattimer: can you take a look at those and make sure they make it into the release today [11:29] klattimer: that requires pushing the right .po updates and resync with rosetta i guess [11:29] ok, where can I find the string changes ? [11:34] dbarth, there is no po update to do [11:34] klattimer, launchpad bugs, mpt just opened a stack of those [11:35] seb128: not my bugs? [11:35] klattimer, no, indicator-datetime bugs, they didn't get assigned yet [11:35] ok, if you can assign them I'll get to it [11:35] ok [11:35] just don't see them in my bug list right now [11:35] I take it these HAVE to be done today? [11:36] if so I'll get to it [11:36] mterry: did your dbusmenu branch get released yet?! [11:36] mterry: morning btw :) [11:36] klattimer, well, review https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bugs if you want [11:36] klattimer, #740806 for example is a string bug [11:37] klattimer, which branch? The close/open one? I believe so [11:39] seb128: i was wondering, could we get apport to attach .xession-errors to bug reports? [11:39] robtaylor, it does? [11:39] seb128: it doesn't, afaict [11:40] seb128: could we fix it to do that? would be useful for session startup failures [11:41] robtaylor, do you have an example? [11:42] seb128: of what exactly? [11:42] klattimer, ok, mterry is going to work on fixing some bugs as well on the indicator today so maybe check with him before starting on ones not assigned to you if you do [11:42] robtaylor, of bug which should have extra infos but doesn't [11:43] seb128, mterry: cool [11:43] Hello, anyone would care to give me a go-ahead for working on bug #740867 ? [11:43] Launchpad bug 740867 in unity "Right-click launcher menu should have 'Open a new window' option" [Undecided,Opinion] https://launchpad.net/bugs/740867 [11:43] seb128: oh, the case in point is 729597 [11:43] Oh, who marked it opinion? [11:44] robtaylor, I've to go for lunch but will check on that [11:44] seb128: cool, thanks! [11:44] robtaylor, in fact apport has code but it grabs only some type of errors [11:44] it doesn't attach the .xsession-errors [11:44] seb128: ah, i see [11:57] didrocks: ping [11:57] didrocks: so, did work begin on the desktop file patching thing? [11:58] cdbs: didn't really began, I provided patch examples [11:58] cdbs: you can see that in gnome-screenshot and inkscape [11:58] cdbs: reference is at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/LauncherAPI#Static Quicklist entries [11:58] didrocks: seems easy to implement [11:58] yeah :) [11:59] sorry to refuse your merge btw [11:59] didrocks: yes, I have implemented it already. Which other app needs it? I can provide patches [11:59] err [11:59] by saying 'I have implemented it already' I meant I have hacked around with the static quicklist api already [12:00] cdbs: all the one where it's useful (shouldn't add clutter though). So no need for single instance one [12:00] but adding a "new image" to gimp, can be nice :) [12:00] * cdbs can think of firefox [12:00] didrocks: okay, I'll add for gimp today [12:00] cdbs: not sure about webrowser as we have tabs [12:00] cdbs: maybe open a new tab from the launcher can be nice :) [12:01] didrocks: sure, I'll do that [12:01] thanks :) === smspillaz|zzz is now known as smspillaz === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:36] apinheiro: the places are recommends, and installed by default then [12:37] apinheiro: not depends because we think some people wants to remove them [12:37] didrocks, ok [12:38] didrocks, anyway, that was the big issue here [12:38] apinheiro: ensure that you have unity-place-files as well while you are at it :) [12:39] didrocks, np, it is working now [12:45] kamstrup: waow, do you really see that while a progress bar appear? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/66277783/Screenshot.png [12:46] didrocks: yes... quite funny :-) [12:46] kamstrup: intel/ATI? [12:46] didrocks: i [12:46] hum, I really don't have that :/ [12:46] ok, in that can, let's see what Jason is thinking about it, he solved the 1px drag icon for intel recently [12:47] anyway, it's not a "logic" issue as it's working on nvidia [12:56] didrocks: ok, my final bug for this ms has been crushed. I'll roll libzeitgeist and libunity in a sec, and the daemons will be hot on the heels of those [12:56] hey all [12:56] kamstrup: nice! seems a speedy race :-) [12:57] kamstrup: are all "unity" tasks set to fix committed and to that milestone? [12:57] didrocks: i believe so, i've been trying to do that at least, i'll double check while distchecking [12:58] kamstrup: excellent, thanks! === apinheiro is now known as apinheiro_lunch === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [13:24] didrocks: https://launchpad.net/libzeitgeist/0.3/0.3.8 [13:24] Error: Launchpad bug 0 not found [13:25] see, kamstrup posting, launchpad promess 0 bug :) [13:25] kamstrup: thanks :) === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:27] kamstrup: seems you didn't push the latest commits [13:27] didrocks: sorry, didn't attach any bugs to the milestone - there were 2. Let me fetch the links if you want them [13:28] didrocks: i did... 5s ago :-) [13:28] kamstrup: heh :-) [13:28] didrocks: you want the two bug links, or no matter? [13:29] kamstrup: it's ok, no need for the links if it's attached now [13:29] didrocks: they're annotated on the commits at least [13:30] kamstrup: yeah, saw that, all is nice! [13:33] didrocks: panic?! [13:33] didrocks: "/bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/libgio-2.0.la: No such file or directory" when making libunity [13:34] kamstrup: there was some change in the .la files recently. The policy was to not ship them, not sure if it changed [13:34] seb128 discussed it with slangasek yesterday (or at least, I'm sure he followed the discussion) :) [13:35] kamstrup, is your system uptodate? [13:35] seb128: the .la ship was done by error? [13:36] didrocks, what .la shipping? [13:36] seb128: wasn't there a discussion yesterday about some package shipping .la files on #ubuntu-devel? (I didn't follow it) [13:36] no, the issue was that some hardcoded a path for the .la this list [13:37] the policy is to empty the dependencies list in the .la though [13:37] Can anyone update me on this business of dee being broken? I want to make sure If I haven't made a mistake, it 'looks like' dee is kaput at the moment [13:37] seb128: oh ok, make sense [13:38] stefano-palazzo: it works very well here..? [13:38] stefano-palazzo: in what regard is it broken? the python bindings? [13:40] kamstrup, yes, I was instructed to download this gi/overrides/Dee.py, otherwise I would've gotten an error, I now get the same error after people telling me I don't need to do that anymore [13:40] http://paste.ubuntu.com/584282/ [13:40] stefano-palazzo: look in the output of 'dpkg -L gir1.2-dee-0.5' [13:41] stefano-palazzo: if it lists Dee.py in the right location [13:41] kamstrup, it doesn't list anything, the package itself is 'the latest version' [13:43] stefano-palazzo: then you didn't run the command I wrote :-) [13:43] kamstrup, sorry about that :) yes it shows Dee.py in the correct place [13:44] didrocks: ! another! https://launchpad.net/libunity/trunk/3.6.8 (distcheck failed with the error i pasted, but make and make dist are happy) [13:44] Ubuntu bug 3 in Launchpad itself "Custom information for each translation team" [Low,Fix released] [13:44] kamstrup, however, the file isn't there [13:44] kamstrup: what, you dare posting a tarball with distcheck failing? Where is the kamstrup I have ever known? :-) [13:45] stefano-palazzo: odd... do you have 0.5.16-0ubuntu3 or? [13:46] kamstrup, yep, that's the one [13:46] didrocks: i think the world is conspiring against me... I sit around twiddling a few lines of code, no new files, no touching build system, and now dee, libzeitgeist, and libunity fails distcheck >:-/ [13:46] they frigging used to pass [13:46] It's today's ISO - with a few unrelated upgrades [13:46] kamstrup: damned, you found our conspiration :-) [13:47] didrocks: so you run meta-x-butterfly on the autotools packages before you upload or something? [13:47] ;-) [13:48] kamstrup: heh, exactly :-) [13:48] didrocks: hah, just got deep enough to realised I missed the clue before - metacity doesn't restart now [13:48] kamstrup: nice on PlaceSearch.finished() ! [13:48] didrocks: this is actually an issue in gnome-session [13:48] robtaylor: oh really? [13:49] robtaylor: nautilus is [13:49] kamstrup, okay I just re-installed the package, now the file is there and the daemon starts okay - no Idea what went wrong there [13:50] robtaylor: so, if the metacity integration is broken and you took this as an example, all start to make sense :) [13:50] stefano-palazzo: manual removal? [13:50] kenvandine: did this last dee update from last night fix our problem? [13:50] didrocks: yeah, if i switch of debugging for gnome-session (kill -SIGUSR1) it tells me 'unable to find application for client' [13:50] didrocks, I just booted todays daily ISO, freshly, and applied the few upgrades (none of them related). really not sure [13:51] but I didn't do it ;-) [13:51] didrocks: so it might be that nautilus is doing the new dbus way, and the old XSMP way is broken. or something missing in registration [13:51] robtaylor: right, more than possible [13:51] didrocks: gonna have to do a build of gnome-session with some added debug statments [13:51] but first I have to take a call ;) [13:52] robtaylor: ok, at least, now, there are some reason :) [13:52] robtaylor: just ensure that nautilus is working [13:52] didrocks: yeah, i should document this session debugging stuff somewhere [13:52] robtaylor: or that you are on a stock ubuntu install :) [13:57] kamstrup: hum, configure doesn't pass for libunity :/ [14:00] big update, let's try that first [14:12] kenvandine: same error as before with this new dee btw. [14:12] jcastro, yeah... i need to talk to kamstrup [14:12] it seems to be spotty [14:12] k [14:12] omg blogged about the lens but it doesn't work. :-/ [14:12] or maybe it worked for him [14:13] i installed the lense on laurie's laptop lastnight without updating libdee and it just worked [14:13] i just updated that laptop and it didn't work [14:14] kamstrup, ping [14:15] kamstrup, libdee in python is acting very weird [14:15] and i suspect it is related to the comment you had in that sample python place [14:16] # FIXME: Some weird bug in Dee or PyGI makes Dee fail unless we probe [14:16] # it *before* we import the Unity module... ?! [14:16] i did a rebuild and update on libdee and it worked, when it failed before [14:16] then it started failing again [14:16] it seems to work randomly [14:16] :) [14:16] so maybe race condition or something? [14:18] kenvandine, how exactly does it fail on the subsequent tries? same error about the SharedModel()? [14:18] yeah [14:18] kenvandine: pong? [14:19] kamstrup, ^^ [14:20] robtaylor: waow, compiz just crashed and it respawn this time [14:20] wow [14:20] kenvandine: https://code.launchpad.net/~karl-qdh/indicator-datetime/sniffles/+merge/54501 any chance on this being merged and released today? [14:20] Ubuntu bug 54501 in ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) "Give help in the default Web page" [Undecided,Invalid] [14:20] kamstrup: weechat just crashed as well, so not sure you answered :) [14:21] tedg, ^^ [14:21] klattimer, lets talk to tedg about merging and doing a release [14:22] k cool [14:22] kamstrup, any thoughts? [14:23] klattimer, Yup [14:23] klattimer, We wouldn't want mpt to have the sniffles. :-) [14:23] a man of few words, but at least it's a good one :) [14:23] oh there are a bunch of other sniffles unfortunately [14:23] :( [14:24] mterry is also working on some things, so you might wanna wait on tarballs until he's done [14:25] I cannot reopen bug 709461, all the possible statuses are greyed out. is it an "intentional" lock? [14:25] Launchpad bug 709461 in unity "Application windows can sometimes fail to display and will mask regions of the screen" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709461 [14:25] klattimer, my work is never complete with datetime [14:26] klattimer, but there are at least 3 merges filed right now [14:26] ;) [14:26] kenvandine: ok..? "weird", like? [14:29] kamstrup, trying to run the askubuntu lense [14:29] it works sometimes and fails other times [14:29] the SharedModel error when it doesn't get the override [14:30] but, it seems like once it fails it keeps failing... it's driving me nuts [14:31] kenvandine: hmmm, could be [14:33] kamstrup: see me? [14:36] sladen, humm... should the draw attention icon now really be blue? [14:36] chaotic, ^^ [14:37] kenvandine, i can confirme that [14:37] zniavre, it is blue for you right? [14:37] it is yes [14:37] chaotic, the question is, was that intentional :) [14:37] DBO, has any thought gone into what to do about https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/735890 [14:37] Ubuntu bug 735890 in unity (Ubuntu) "Can't open new Firefox window if only Downloads window is showing" [Low,Confirmed] [14:39] kenvandine: hold on a sec, just trying to unblock didrocks - or is this very urgent? [14:39] kamstrup, no worries [14:39] not very... but i would like places/lenses to work reliably in python :) [14:39] and anything else using dee [14:40] kenvandine: yes, it's intentional [14:40] kenvandine: +1 :-) [14:43] chaotic, ok :) [14:43] just checking [14:52] kenvandine: based on a few discussions with Mark [14:53] chaotic, understand, just making sure it wasn't a build problem [14:53] kenvandine: pn :) [14:53] kenvandine: oops - np I mean [14:53] :) [14:55] artfwo: I think after something is fixed released you can't change it maybe? [14:55] artfwo: oh, I think you need to be in bugcontrol or something [14:57] jcastro, I beleive bugcontrol is allowed to set a bug to 'Triaged'. all the others may at least set it to 'Confirmed', 'Fix released', etc. [14:57] I have the permission to change it seems [14:57] though this is that "invisible window" thing again isn't it? [14:57] yeah [14:58] I swore I saw something about a test suite scrolling by somewhere about that === jono is now known as Guest31382 [14:59] BACON. [15:00] jcastro, did you already do your unity report? [15:00] lamalex: it's in draft [15:00] what do you need? [15:00] just tagged another bitesize [15:00] lamalex: I'm publishing it in about an hour or so [15:01] and I think I see a few more on the list [15:01] yeah the list is getting bigger, I grabbed the ones I felt people might be interested in [15:01] If I can't find someone to update INSTALL then I should be killed. === wers_ is now known as wers [15:03] what do oyu need? [15:04] haha oh wow [15:04] it's pretty out of date [15:04] submit a patch [15:04] you know how to use bzr :P [15:04] or is that a bitesizer [15:04] didrocks: ah, fun and frolicks [15:05] didrocks: like i say, gnome-session buggyness, i think ;) [15:07] DBO, do you think this is bitesize? https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/737758 [15:07] Ubuntu bug 737758 in unity (Ubuntu) "Desktop icons move after login" [Undecided,Confirmed] [15:07] something with struts before first hide [15:09] lamalex: it's a bitesizer, I'd like a new person to dig in [15:10] lamalex, that should be resolved [15:11] DBO, ok [15:11] so fix committed? [15:12] ya [15:31] didrocks: yeah, nautilus restarts fine.. [15:32] robtaylor: that's really weird… I get compiz restarting on crash now, not on kill -11 though [15:35] didrocks: oh, such d [15:35] didrocks: oh, such fun! [15:35] didrocks: too much flakeyness abounds, and it's damn hard to tie all of it down [15:35] yeah, I can imagine [15:36] didrocks: can you send a SIGUSR1 to gnome-session, then kill compiz ? [15:36] didrocks: then pastebin the relevent stuff from .xsession-errors [15:36] robtaylor: not right now, still finishing the unity fundations release [15:37] robtaylor: can wrap that up to you later, of if someone is testing right now here? [15:37] didrocks: ok, next time it catches your attention then :) [15:37] didrocks: it not a necessity, i'm focusing on the error case I see here at the moment [15:37] sure ;) [15:39] Kamstrup, stefano-palazzo, jcastro: I'm currently working on a Library Lens. It successfully finds free-to-read books (yay) using google API, and I'm having a hard time to set book covers as item icons. Any hints? [15:44] Davidc_3: I think you may want to punk njpatel about that... right now the Unity icon loader can't fetch http resources, so unless that lands in unity really soon you need to download and cache the covers yourself and then use a Gio.FileIcon() to send them to unity [15:45] kamstrup: That's what I was going to investigate (not punking njpatel, the other stuff). Thanks :) [15:45] It might land soon if I stop having to go to meetingts [15:46] tedg: approved [15:46] kamstrup, Great, thanks! [15:51] jcastro, actually that's what I expected, it'd be nice if unity would fetch the icons for me, but fetching them manually isn't a big deal. [15:52] * jcastro is hopeful [15:52] DBO, https://code.launchpad.net/~asac/bamf/match-apps-by-startup-wm-class/+merge/44410 [15:52] stefano-palazzo: is the ellipsis of the returned text a lens thing or something we can adjust? [15:52] Ubuntu bug 44410 in Launchpad itself "cscvs does not support svn symlinks" [Medium,Fix released] [15:52] seems to truncate weird [15:52] kenvandine, https://code.launchpad.net/~marcelstimberg/indicator-me/translator-comments/+merge/52346 [15:52] Ubuntu bug 52346 in nmh (Ubuntu) "spost fails with "can't exec no"" [Undecided,Fix released] [15:52] ... middle of sentence ... [15:52] tedg, how much regression teesting has been done on that... [15:53] jcastro, the thing that's stopping me from implementing dynamic icons is, they are not shown when you call model.append(), the same issue is causing "everything"-search to be slower. If the icons were shown straight away, both 'bugs' could be fixed very quickly [15:53] DBO, No clue. I'm just trying to clear out merges :-) [15:53] right... uhm [15:53] crap... I am so skeptical about merging that now... [15:53] tedg, yeah... seb128 asked dbarth earlier about that [15:53] jcastro, the ellipsis is automatic, it must be somewhere in the unity icon loader [15:54] if we needed CA for comments [15:54] kenvandine, Ah, okay. [15:54] kenvandine, And this one? https://code.launchpad.net/~cando/indicator-me/emesene2_support/+merge/50178 [15:54] Ubuntu bug 50178 in xorg (Ubuntu) "6.06 on Virtual PC (on G5 PowerMac) corrupted graphics" [Undecided,Invalid] [15:54] he didn't respond yet [15:54] tedg, i just haven't had time to review that... [15:57] cando_: around? [15:57] kenvandine: cando's worked on emesene before [15:57] hey jcastro [15:58] jcastro, yeah.. [15:58] cando_, really sorry i haven't reviewed that yet... been swamped [15:58] kenvandine, no problem :):) [15:58] cando_: ok so we need like a third emesene person to test to see if this works [15:59] jcastro, c10ud is another emesene's developer [15:59] now is not here...but he hangs in #ayatana very often.. [16:01] so jcastro what i've to do? [16:02] cando_: hmm, ted reminds me that getting you to test your own fix won't make sense [16:02] kamstrup, at the moment, when I display new Icons, it only displays them once everything is ready (when the callback is finished?). Can you explain how that works? [16:02] surely we can find someone who's using emesene to give it a shot? [16:02] eheh [16:03] i'll write a message to the emesene's mailing list [16:03] asking for a natty tester [16:03] jcastro, i'll let you know...how many days i've for getting this included in natty? [16:04] cando_: about 24 hours. :) [16:04] uh cool [16:04] I won't mention any names but someone didn't ping me about it until just now. :) [16:05] jcastro, ok thanks..i'll see what i can do:) [16:06] cando_: in the future feel free to just annoy people in here for reviews. [16:06] I want to shamelessly bring attention to bug 740515. :) [16:07] Launchpad bug 740515 in unity (Ubuntu) "Window controls in Unity panel do not extend to top of display" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/740515 [16:07] and if we need to do a better job ensuring we don't miss things then we can fix that [16:07] jcastro, sure! :) you'll be the first === jono_ is now known as jono [16:12] ronoc, hummm... the muting bug is kind of fixed [16:12] maybe this is another bug :) [16:13] so i restarted my session and opened banshee [16:13] the indicators showed my volume wasn't muted [16:13] ronoc, i selected a song to play and started playing [16:13] the indicator went to muted [16:13] but sound isn't muted [16:13] but the icon shows it as muted [16:14] and the "mute" menu is disabled [16:14] so i can't unmute [16:14] weird [16:14] ronoc, i also can't move the volume slider [16:15] i can control playback though [16:15] kenvandine, sounds like the service is not running properly ? [16:15] hmm [16:15] is pulse running ? [16:15] ah... no it isn't [16:15] kenvandine, aha [16:15] weird, i am not getting the same icon i usually get for that [16:15] kenvandine, the icon set has changed, [16:16] oh right [16:16] ok... [16:16] the previous mute icon is now for no devices [16:16] what is the right way to start pulse? [16:16] that makes more sense [16:16] do you have autospawn off ? [16:16] the scary red icon wasn't good for that [16:16] dunno [16:16] stock setup [16:16] never tweaked pulse [16:16] hmm it should be running [16:16] you can do [16:16] pulseaudio --start [16:17] but is should be spawned already [16:17] ok, it started [16:17] but the indicator state didn't change [16:17] hmm weird , nothing has changed around all of that [16:18] i can do quick test, one sec [16:18] will turn off autospawn, and relogin [16:26] stefano-palazzo: DeeSharedModel sync all changes to Unity in the background when the mainloop is idle [16:26]