[00:03] <pk> dask could you remind me how to check my display drivers?
[00:07] <james147> pk: *-dbg are debug packages, you only need them if you want to submit a backtrace form a crash to a bugreport
[00:08] <pk> grrrr
[00:08] <pk> that driver was pre installed
[00:08] <pk> Says I update it to run minecraft, but when I do that it causes all the issues I was having :[
[00:14] <mbai> Hi. "top -H" is supposed to indicate CPU usage for individual  threads. For each thread it looks like it gives a unique PID, which makes no sense to me. I thought only processes had their own PID.
[00:17] <lente>  I use a german keyboard. The autocompletion in texmaker vanishes if I press buttons like AltGr or Strg. Is there a possibility to stop this behavior?
[00:18] <lente> mbai: man 7 pthread says Threads do not share process IDs. (In effect, LinuxThreads threads are implemented as processes which share more information than usual, but which do not share a common process ID.)
[00:19] <mbai> lente: oh shlt
[00:19] <lente> mabi: ?
[00:21] <mbai> just a moment of enlightenment. I didn't realize that about linux threads although I've worked with them for a few years.
[00:23] <mbai> lente: thanks
[00:23] <lente> mbai: I dont know the old threadapi, but there where some differences compared to the LinuxThread api
[00:24] <lente> mbai: your welcome
[00:25] <m_> how to find channels?
[00:26] <Daskreech> m_: /list but which channel are you looking for?
[00:26] <Daskreech>  Freenode is huge and that takes a long time
[00:31] <pk> Hello ^^; I figured out my problem, but now Im not sure what driver to get
[00:32] <Daskreech> pk: What's the problem?
[00:33] <pk> nouveau, by default doesnt allow 3d acceleration
[00:33] <Daskreech>  I can't help with the version I always have Video cards that the free driver works
[00:33] <Daskreech> Ah so you want to enable it?
[00:33] <pk> and the reccomended drivers dont support VGA
[00:33] <pk> Im downloading the nouveau 3d support firmware, but im not sure what to do with it after kpackage gets it
[00:37] <Daskreech> Oh if kpackage is getting it then it's probably enough just to restart X
[00:38] <Daskreech> Unless it tells you to reboot of course :)
[00:38] <pk> odd. kpackage wont get it
[00:39] <Daskreech> error?
[00:39] <pk> no, just finishes but never checks itself off and installs
[00:40] <pk> pk@pk:~$ sudo apt-get install nouveau-firmware
[00:40] <pk> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[00:40] <pk> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[00:41] <james147> pk make sure you arnt running another packagemanager
[00:41] <james147> (such as apt-get)
[00:41] <pk> I only have the stock one, kpackageki
[00:42] <pk> which is closed. I tried the otherway and kpackage gives me a similar issue even when the terminal is closed
[00:43] <pk> grrr maybe a restart?
[00:44] <Daskreech> ahmm
[00:44] <Daskreech> Well I guess you could do that
[00:44] <james147> :p
[00:46] <pk> just restarted the computer. Same thing and thats all I opened
[00:47] <pk> just restarted the computer. Same thing and thats all I opened
[00:50] <Daskreech> pk: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[00:50] <james147> pk: ^^ then "sudo apt-get install -f"  << to make sure nothing broken :)
[00:50] <pk> pk@pk:~$ sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[00:50] <pk> pk@pk:~$ sudo apt-get install -f
[00:50] <pk> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[00:50] <pk> pk@pk:~$
[00:50] <FloodBotK1> pk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:53] <Daskreech> pk: Do what it says
[00:53]  * james147 suggests doing what the error said
[00:54] <pk> I did what it says but when I go to install the package it repeats itself :[
[00:55] <pk> alright so I installed the nouveau-firmware through the terminal, now its updating java?  I have a blue screen (in the terminal) with the java license agreement and it says <ok>
[00:55] <pk> but I cannot type and clicking enter does nothing >.>
[00:56] <james147> pk: press ok then :)
[00:56] <pk> how o.0 enter does nothing. Cant highlight it
[00:56] <james147> press <tab> then <enter>
[00:57] <pk> tried tab
[00:57] <james147> hmm
[00:57] <pk> Im having a lot of issues ;;_;;
[00:57] <Daskreech> pk: press space
[00:57] <pk> no luck
[00:57] <Daskreech> pk: really?
[00:57] <Daskreech> Hmm tab then space ?
[00:57] <pk> Wouldnt lie to you ; /
[00:58] <pk> tab then space did nothing :[
[00:58] <Daskreech> Funky
[00:58] <Daskreech> enter? :)
[00:58] <pk> lol not today
[00:58] <Daskreech> pk: esc?
[00:59] <pk> nada. maybe its stuck.. Ill retry it
[00:59] <Daskreech> pk: ctrl+C
[01:00] <pk> I re tried and tab worked -_-
[01:00] <pk> but sadly, th driver didnt work. Still having issues running minecraft. Im pretty sure I give up
[01:01] <james147> pk: what issues with minecraft are you having?
[01:02] <pk> failed to create drawable
[01:02] <pk> org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: X Error - disp: 0x1008460 serial: 96 error: BadGC (invalid GC parameter) request_code: 60 minor_code: 0
[01:02] <pk>         at org.lwjgl.opengl.LinuxDisplay.globalErrorHandler(LinuxDisplay.java:268)
[01:02] <pk>         at org.lwjgl.opengl.LinuxKeyboard.nSetDetectableKeyRepeat(Native Method)
[01:02] <pk>         at org.lwjgl.opengl.LinuxKeyboard.setDetectableKeyRepeat(LinuxKeyboard.java:152)
[01:02] <FloodBotK1> pk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:02] <pk>         at org.lwjgl.opengl.LinuxKeyboard.destroy(LinuxKeyboard.java:163)
[01:02] <_sophia> o_O
[01:04] <pk> umm. heres the relevant paste URL the bot was yelling at me about  http://paste.ubuntu.com/584071/
[01:06] <pk> According to google its a driver problem for my graphics. But since im using VGA the driver I need doesnt work...
[01:08] <Daskreech> hi _sophia :)
[01:08] <Daskreech> So you need a VGA driver?
[01:09] <pk> that supports 3d... yes
[01:13]  * james147 is going to test the nouveau drivers
[01:13] <pk> im about to install a windows partition simply for minecraft >.< would running the windows version through wine work any better?
[01:13] <pk> Ah, thank you &^^;
[01:13] <james147> pk:  not if its a driver problem
[01:13] <pk> because id rather not have a windows partition only for minecraft >.>
[01:14] <pk> Ah, it worked yesterday in WIN7 >.<
[01:17] <Daskreech> pk: Hold on
[01:18] <Daskreech> pk: You could try #gametome to see if they can help
[01:18] <Daskreech> Though they are really quiet right now
[01:18] <pk> will do, james said he was trying the nouveau drivers
[01:18] <Daskreech> ok
[01:20]  * james147 cannot be bothered to figure out how to get the nouveau drivers to work on arch... 
[01:20] <pk> >.<thanks for trying anyway
[01:20] <james147> though I am suprised they dont work in kubuntu for you :(
[01:20] <Daskreech> pk: ah You might try #ubuntu !
[01:21] <Daskreech> Duh :)
[01:21] <pk> lol
[01:21] <pk> Alright, beforeI give that a try, which did a large translucent square just appear in the top left on my screen?
[01:21] <pk> its part of the wallpaper... but it wasnt 30 seconds ago
[01:22] <james147> pk: screen shot?
[01:22] <pk> how do I send it to you?
[01:24] <james147> !pastebin
[01:25] <pk> Here it is: http://imagebin.org/144448
[01:27] <james147> ahh yeah, thats a plasma config bug ^^ you can get rid of it be resetting plasmas settings (by remiving or renaming ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc
[01:27] <james147> removing ^^
[01:28] <pk> How do I do that? Sorry for being a super n00b
[01:35] <Daskreech> pk: open a terminal and type kquitapp plasma-desktop && sleep 4 && mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* ~/Documents && plasma-desktop
[01:35] <Daskreech> Curses!
[01:46] <Daskreech> pk: open a terminal and type kquitapp plasma-desktop && sleep 4 && mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* ~/Documents && plasma-desktop
[01:47] <Daskreech> Oh what...
[01:49] <Daskreech> _sophia: How are you?
[01:49] <_sophia> okay
[01:49] <_sophia> trying to study Ruby but i can't focus :P
[01:53] <Daskreech> _sophia: cause I keep hightlighting you? :-D
[01:54] <_sophia> lol, no, because i'm stoned o_O
[01:57] <quant> common, some kubuntu question or something, I'm bored ;-)
[02:01] <Daskreech> quant: Umm. Ok
[02:01] <Daskreech> How do you get the network manager plasmoid into the system tray?
[02:03] <quant> panel options - add widgets? :)
[02:04] <james147> quant: nop :)
[02:04] <quant> darn
[02:04] <james147> quant: right click systeray > sys tray settings ...
[02:05] <quant> Daskreech: there you go, james147 answered it! :) any more?
[02:05] <Daskreech> james147: on 4.5 ?
[02:05] <Daskreech> That works on 4.6
[02:06] <quant> Daskreech: on 4.5 you get it by installing 4.6 and then doing what james147 said! ;-)
[02:06] <james147> Daskreech: not sure, I think it worked like that on 4.5
[02:07] <Daskreech> Man I don't know how the KDE devs do it
[02:07] <james147> ^^
[02:07] <Xcell> what libs are missing to be able to use radiotray ? thanks.
[02:07] <Daskreech> They are two to three versions ahead of what we see and still answer bug reports
[02:08] <yofel> it should work like that (as long as your widgets are unlocked)
[02:08] <yofel> even in 4.5
[02:08] <Daskreech>  Like 2 weeks after updating KDE it feels like it's been like this forever
[02:08] <Daskreech> yofel: I don't know then. I have someone who somehow deleted the Network management plasmoid
[02:08] <yofel> hm, he does still have plasma-widget-networkmanagement installed?
[02:08] <Daskreech> I threw it back on the desktop but I can't get it to go back in the systray It doesn't show an entry for it
[02:09] <Daskreech> !info radiotray
[02:09] <Xcell> ok thanks
[02:09] <Daskreech> Xcell: install that package and it should take care of ir
[02:09] <Xcell> thank you
[02:16] <Daskreech> quant: Ah how do you change the startup sound?
[02:16] <Xcell> ok, the one in kpacgage is from sourceforge, is that the correct one ?
[02:16] <Xcell> and it is 0.6-2
[02:17] <quant> Daskreech: system settings - application notifications should have that
[02:17] <quant> Daskreech: "application and system notifications"
[02:17] <Daskreech> Xcell: Should be
[02:18] <Xcell> ok, installing,
[02:18] <Daskreech> quant: How do you manage holidays?
[02:18] <quant> Daskreech: ?
[02:18] <Daskreech> When you click on the clock you get an overlay for holidays. How do you manage that/
[02:18] <quant> Daskreech: what exactly are you referring to?
[02:18] <Daskreech> ?
[02:19] <quant> Daskreech: yes, I've noticed... well choose the clock settings
[02:19] <quant> Daskreech: then calendar under settings
[02:19] <Daskreech> >_>
[02:19] <Xcell> ya, its doing the same thing, looks to start but quits,
[02:19] <quant> Daskreech: haha
[02:19] <Daskreech> Kde makes things too simple
[02:20] <Daskreech> Xcell: What error?
[02:20] <Xcell> none
[02:20] <quant> Daskreech: some! and some really not
[02:20] <Daskreech> quant: such as?
[02:20] <Xcell> let me do it from terminal
[02:20] <Daskreech> Xcell: yes please :)
[02:20] <quant> Daskreech: amarok - adding your local "collection" to be exact, I will find that option, but a casual user won't
[02:21] <Xcell> pygobject_register_sinkfunc is deprecated (GstObject)
[02:21] <quant> Daskreech: also rearranging the panel is very unintuitive
[02:21] <Daskreech> Xcell: that's the error?
[02:21] <Daskreech> hmm
[02:21] <Xcell> ya
[02:21] <Xcell> all restrictes gstreamers are installed, unless there is one missing
[02:22] <Daskreech> quant: really? I never find it too much of a problem
[02:22] <quant> Daskreech: clicking panel toolbox to find out that you can hover a panel item to move it is not intuitive
[02:22] <Xcell> quant-  its diff from gnome, u just have to get used 2 it
[02:23] <quant> Xcell: I'm not complaining, just constructive criticism...
[02:23] <Xcell> o, ok
[02:23] <quant> Xcell: much more powerfull overall than gnome, and much more pretty
[02:23] <Xcell> ya, the pretty part
[02:24] <Daskreech> and powerful :)
[02:24] <quant> Xcell: and the powerful part? :)
[02:24] <Xcell> well, im still in transition from gnome'
[02:24] <Daskreech> Xcell: can you run radiotray and pastebin all the output?
[02:24] <Xcell> thats all it said
[02:24] <Daskreech> Xcell: Ah what prompted the change?
[02:24] <Daskreech> just that one line?
[02:24] <Daskreech> hmm
[02:25] <Xcell> i fixed 2 lappies for a guy, and he gave me a asus 1005ha, and i have gnome/kde/xfce on it, so i have all 3 and learn them all
[02:25] <Xcell> ya, just that 1 line
[02:26] <Xcell> but, 2 b honest, looks like kde works best on it.
[02:26] <Daskreech> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/radiotray/+bug/641876
[02:26] <Xcell> huh, looks
[02:28] <Xcell> ya, i googled all weekend 2 no avail, looks like a silly bug
[02:30] <Xcell> thats ok, i laded pana (amarok 1.4) and happy with that.
[02:30] <Xcell> loaded
[02:34] <Xcell> the latest:  http://imagebin.org/144458
[02:36] <Daskreech> wow
[02:36] <Daskreech> nice
[02:37] <Daskreech> Xchat seems really popular
[02:37] <Xcell> ya, i like it for the scripting
[02:38] <Xcell> lemmings xchat
[02:38] <quant> Xcell: hey, but dark blue on black on clock... common :)
[02:39] <Xcell> its the dark look theme ive got, but that one is the only skin they had
[02:39] <Xcell> o
[02:39] <Xcell> wiat
[02:39] <Xcell> the clock, ya, i just built this setup in 2 days, ill do something with that, 3 os's in 3 days, still configing
[02:40] <quant> Xcell: ;-)
[02:40] <Xcell> doh
[02:40] <quant> good night, all... 3.40 am here
[02:40] <Xcell> ok man, cya
[02:46] <Xcell> but why does it work in gnome and not kde, same python right ??.. weird
[02:49] <RadSurfer> A friend reports that his Right-mouse click no longer functions... what would do this, and how is it solved?
[02:54] <Daskreech> Xcell: that would be something interesting to find out. Maybe ask in #ubuntu-motu
[02:54] <Daskreech> RadSurfer: Doesn't work anywhre?
[02:55] <Xcell> ok, will do, thanks
[02:55] <RadSurfer> evidently not.
[02:55] <RadSurfer> Meta-key seems to work as Right-click.
[02:55] <RadSurfer> What causes this?
[02:57] <Daskreech> RadSurfer: a broken mouse?
[02:58] <RadSurfer> how can I be certain.
[03:02] <Xcell> their all solar powered over there.
[03:02] <Xcell> and its nite time.
[03:04] <Xcell> D`oh!
[03:04] <Daskreech> ha
[03:04] <Daskreech> RadSurfer: try it on anotehr computer?
[03:05] <RadSurfer> backing up 1st. not sure whats going on.
[03:31]  * Daskreech hugs valorie
[03:57] <hlpme2> hi is anybody available to help me concerning a display issue ,
[04:00] <Daskreech> ask
[04:01] <hlpme2> My display resolution is normal, but per instance when i move a window its laggy
[04:07] <Xcell> ok, cyall, thanks.
[04:09] <Daskreech> hlpme2: Try turn off blur
[05:44] <Daskreech> Anyone wants to help confirm a Kate bug?
[05:46] <Daskreech> Open Kate Set the indentation mode to Haskell then type "let {}"
[05:46] <Daskreech> press enter and see if it hangs
[07:11] <baffone85> can i convert file .pptx to file .avi?
[07:29] <kmanzoor> hello
[07:34] <kmanzoor> anybody home ?
[07:51] <kmanzoor> ping()
[07:51] <skfin> pong()
[07:51] <kmanzoor> :)
[07:52] <kmanzoor> i have Gutsy Gibbon 7.10. can i try upgrading to the next version using Adept ?
[08:20] <BigKing_2nd> hi, maybe someone could help: i need a virtualization software using with the kubuntu 10.04 - i need a windows xp mode while operating with kubuntu
[08:20] <BigKing_2nd> maybe someone could say which software could word very well.
[08:28] <livingdaylight> have run into an issue where wine doesn seem able to launch an application. I installed wine 1.2 and thought to downgrade to 1.1 however it appears that there is no v. 1.1? Its 1.0 or 1.2 Can somone comment onthis?
[08:31] <nata> BigKing_2nd: may be could try virtualbox
[08:31] <nata> virtual 1 new xp
[08:33] <BigKing_2nd> ok, this is a software, i can run also unter windows 7 ... this is very good, because there are user, who work with this os
[08:33] <BigKing_2nd> virtual 1 new xp??? -> i dont understand
[08:34] <BigKing_2nd> is it another software than virtual box?
[08:38] <BigKing_2nd> which deb-paket is have to install... while softwaremanagement shows a lot packets?
[08:39] <BigKing_2nd> virtualbox-ose or -guest, -fuse, -qt, -dkms, - guest-additions, -dgb
[08:41] <james147> BigKing_2nd: install "virtualbox-ose"
[08:52] <BigKing_2nd> ok, i works... but how can i install windows xp... is it installed by virtual box or i have to do it... maybe with an original windows boot cd?
[08:52] <james147> BigKing_2nd: you need to start virtualbox, create a new virtual mecheine, then use the xp cd to install it to that mechiene
[08:58] <livingdaylight> james147: any experience /recommendations regarding wine on kubuntu?
[08:58] <james147> livingdaylight: using the latest dev version is normally the best
[08:58] <james147> http://www.winehq.org/download/deb << to install it
[08:59] <james147>  /upgrade to the latest
[08:59] <james147> http://appdb.winehq.org/ << is very helpful when trying to get applications to work
[08:59] <livingdaylight> james147: I believe i am but got an app thatś not launching; hence thought i should perhaps downgrade? Seems the latest is not the most stable/or reliable for running everyinthg wine can do.
[09:00] <james147> livingdaylight: depends on what application
[09:00] <james147> some just dont work ^^
[09:01] <livingdaylight> james147: this one definitely does. MT4 - have been running it on ubuntu for years.
[09:01] <james147> what version of whine?
[09:01] <james147> wine ^^
[09:05] <livingdaylight> james147: wine 1.2.2 on Ubuntu
[09:05] <james147> livingdaylight: latest is 1.3.x
[09:06] <livingdaylight> james147: but 1.2.2 is running mt4 on ubuntu but 1.2 is not running it on kubuntu - thatś perplexing me
[09:06] <james147> weird :p you might want to ask on #winehq for better info
[09:07] <livingdaylight> james147: if i've installed 1.2 from repos, and say want to install another version, needst I purge current installed version, or just remove or ignore even?
[09:07] <livingdaylight> yea, thought it could be a kubuntu (kde) quirk
[09:08] <james147> livingdaylight: not seen the gui your running make a difference to wine before
[09:08] <livingdaylight> james147: dont get the question?
[09:08] <james147> and if you install the ppa then you should be able to upgrade, you shouldnt need to purge
[09:08] <livingdaylight> ok
[09:09] <livingdaylight> ppa installed, just need to refresh muon?
[09:09] <james147> yea
[09:09] <james147> insstall wine1.3 is there are no offers to upgrade
[09:13] <livingdaylight> no, wine 1.3 here
[09:14] <james147> "wine1.3" is the package name i think (no space)
[09:15] <livingdaylight> james147: 1.3 not listed, but 1.2 had an 'upgradeable 'flag . My bad...
[09:23] <james147> livingdaylight: hmm, there should be a wine1.3 package ^^ you sure you refreshed the packagelist?
[09:26] <livingdaylight> james147: manually installed 1.3 still same problem.
[09:27] <james147> :(
[09:28] <dfaure> is there a known issue in 10.04 where kmail would often get stuck (keyboard doesn't work) and then resume after 10-20s? Logs might point to nepomuk
[10:05] <Chronos> does someone know wich is gnome "nm-applet" corrispettive under kde?
[10:11] <james147> Chronos: the network manager widget ^^
[10:14] <Peace-> james147: did you know this ? wicd by default :S http://wstaw.org/m/2011/03/23/plasma-desktopMf1671.jpg
[10:15] <james147> Peace-: dont think that will do much without wicd installed though :p
[10:15] <Peace-> james147: works :)
[10:15] <Peace-> i have not widc :P
[10:15] <james147> Peace-: are you sure its doing anything?
[10:15] <Peace-> nothing :)
[10:16] <james147> ^^  so it dosnt work then
[10:16] <Peace-> james147: :P i have tried
[10:16] <Peace-> and it load the deamon only
[10:16] <Peace-> guess
[10:17]  * james147 cant even click apply ^^
[10:17] <Peace-> LOL
[10:17] <james147> o wait ^^ its a preference order
[10:17] <Peace-> hehehe
[10:18] <Peace-> yea
[10:18] <james147> dosent seem to make any difference, my guess is because I dont have wicd, and thus its skipping to nm
[10:19] <Peace-> james147: i guess you have to restart the network service
[10:20] <james147> ^^ doupt it will work without installing wicd, and i dont feel like remoiving nm
[10:21] <Peace-> you don't need to remove anygthing
[10:22]  * james147 remembers nm being removed the alst time he tried to install wicd
[10:27] <ua> hello every body
[10:27] <ua> need help
[10:27] <james147> !ask | ua
[10:28] <susundberg> stating the problem with little more details might help ;)
[10:28] <susundberg> oh
[10:29] <ua> ok, can i install geparted directly on Gui in my machine?thank you
[10:29] <ua> i am new user in kubuntu
[10:30] <gr8m8> !info gparted
[10:30] <james147> ua: gparted, yes... although you cannt use it to modify mounted hard drives ^^ so its normally best to use form a live cd
[10:32] <ua> james147>thank you for answer, i'd like to increase the size partions  /home  &/boot, cause it's full;
[10:32] <ua> so you suggest me to use live cd, do you?
[10:32] <james147> ua: you need to do that from a livdcd
[10:33] <ua> ok, thank you,   i'll do it now, i hope it 'll work
[10:34] <ua> i mean , i am going to do it with live cd
[10:37] <ua> i tested to change it with other machine  as curently pc with 2 systems, so it worked once on two, don't know why, do you know why?
[10:39] <ua> james147>are you there?
[10:39] <james147> ??
[10:40] <ua> can you tell me why please?
[10:40] <james147> not sure what your asking ^^
[10:42] <ua> why geparted  works one on two when i use 2 system win and linux?
[10:46] <ua> i mean the modifications i've done with geparted couln't apply
[10:46] <susundberg> ua: are you trying to resize the windows partition and thats not working?
[10:46] <susundberg> what were the modifications?
[10:49] <ua> yes i did,
[10:58] <ua> not for now , it was in the past, now i am trying to modify size partition /home and /boot , and i hope it'll work, i let you know
[10:58] <ua> thank you
[10:59] <susundberg> :o
[11:24] <dcorbin_work> My flash player crashes on EVERY page with flash.  Any ideas how to track down the problem?
[11:30] <Peace-> dcorbin_work: konqueror do the same?
[11:32] <dcorbin_work> Peace-: it doesn't tell me it crashed, but the youtube video doesn't play.  And youtube tell me to upgrade to flash player 10, which is what I think I have.
[11:44] <kmanzoor> hello
[11:51] <iceguest> hello, i'm having problems with the package chromium-browser, i get the message "The following plugin has crashed : Shockwave flash"; i've tried reinstalling both flash (last version from the deb of the website, or with the package flashplugin-installer) and chromium-browser but that didn't help; my chromium version is Chromium 12.0.712.0 Ubuntu 10.10
[11:57] <jules__> test
[11:57] <james147> jules__: Failed
[11:58] <kmanzoor> is Hardy Heron still supported ? i checked this on wikipedia. On kubuntu page it said it is not spported but on the ubuntu page it is mentioned that it is still supported.  I want to install the restricted extra - meaning i want to have the adobe flash. Should i upgrade all the way to 9.10 or i can keep on running Hardy Heron ?
[11:58] <james147> kmanzoor: ubuntu is supported, but the kde stuff in it isnt ^^
[11:59] <james147> kmanzoor: why not just upgrade to the latest version?
[12:00] <kmanzoor> well if life is possible without upgrade then why not save some time and enjoy the good things in life
[12:00] <jules__> anybody knows why my kopete doesnt work with yahoo? I am just new user
[12:09] <iflema> jules__: prob IM on way out = no love for kopete or crappy messenger provider that does not play nice... something like that... If you dont mind gnome libs/apps in ya KDE4 install try pidgin (libpurple) never fall behind. ALSO there is a yahoo web messenger available via a web browser. Ive not tried kopete in months but it was broken then and is broken now....
[12:10] <iflema> jules__: prob IM on way out = no love for kopete or crappy messenger provider that does not play nice... something like that... If you dont mind gnome libs/apps in ya KDE4 install try pidgin (libpurple) never fall behind. ALSO there is a yahoo web messenger available via a web browser. Ive not tried kopete in months but it was broken then and is broken now....
[12:10] <james147> iflema: there is allot of active work on a few framework for messaging in kde ^^ which should improve things onces its done... though that might be a while :(
[12:11]  * iflema bitlbee/libpurple ftw
[12:12] <jules__> i have pidgin but, there is no video chat support
[12:12] <iflema> lol
[12:12] <iflema> sorry
[12:14] <jules__> i have a  question. I am using my notebook  now and prefer netbook-plasma. Is it oke? netbook = notebook?
[12:15] <james147> jules__: the interface you use dosnt matter on what you use it...
[12:16] <james147> jules__: its called netbook because netbook ahve small screen, and its designed for small screens
[12:16] <jules__> okie. i really prefer kubuntu, its now my first os ^^
[12:16] <jules__> just use window for writing texts
[12:16] <james147> jules__: you can do that in kubuntu ^^ :)
[12:17] <jules__> formating problems
[12:17] <jules__> and fonts are not the same
[12:17] <james147> jules__: :( yeah, thats one problem... though nowadays I use latex when i can :) looks much nicer then word documents through is more complicated to get use to
[12:18] <jules__> every IT-STudent learns how to use latex. Its too difficult for me and i dont need latex. I must use .doc. When i must write some seminar paper. I switch to window
[12:19] <jules__> but Ubuntu is so highly developed so that user can problemless connect to the internet by wlan. some years ago it was very complicated to config that
[12:19] <james147> jules__: have you tried both koffice and open-office? see if either can render properly
[12:20] <james147> !info ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[12:20] <james147> ^^ that might help with the fonts issue
[12:21] <jules__> open office is automatically pre-installed by kubuntu and the other one koffice i dont think i have that
[12:30] <przemek_> hello guys, do we have today in stable repo ff 4.0?
[12:31] <Peace-> przemek_: who cares you can download the tar
[12:31] <Peace-> xD
[12:32] <james147> przemek_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/firefox-4-ppa-for-ubuntu-10-04-and-10-10-users/
[12:32] <Pici> !ff4
[12:32] <kmanzoor> I have Adept 2.1 Cruiser 3.5.10. The instructions (for upgrading from 8.4 to 9.10) say that i must have adept-manager 2.1.3ubuntu25.2 installed. How to solve this issue ?
[12:33] <Alvo> hi the wlan is not working in my kubuntu desktop (installed from Ubuntu)
[12:33] <Alvo> in gnome wlan works, how can i fix this?
[12:33] <Alvo> the wlan network themself are found
[12:35] <jules__> i install firefox but got minefield 4.0? xD
[12:35] <jules__> why?
[12:37] <james147> kmanzoor: why not upgrade to 10.04 (you should be able to upgrade from one lts to another)?
[12:37] <james147> Alvo: wep or wpa?
[12:38] <kmanzoor> james147 : i have the k ubuntu the instructions say that it is not possible
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[12:38] <scisteffan> Hey guys, how do I mount the following DMG file? Macintosh HD.dmg: Macintosh HFS Extended version 4 data (mounted) last mounted by: 'HFSJ', created: Sat Mar  6 18:40:41 2010, last modified: Wed Mar 23 08:59:56 2011, last checked: Sun Mar  7 02:40:41 2010, block size: 4096, number of blocks: 107980725, free blocks: 85696911
[12:39] <kmanzoor> how can one update  Adept 2.1 Cruiser 3.5.10 to adept-manager 2.1.3ubuntu25.2 ?
[12:41] <james147> kmanzoor: update you system and you should have it ^^ but check the full version, 2.1.what?
[12:43] <kmanzoor> I went to Adept and used the About feature in the Help tab to find my version it said: Adept 2.1 Cruiser 3.5.10. Is my version older than adept-manager 2.1.3ubuntu25.2 ?
[12:44] <james147> kmanzoor: find that package in the package manager and check its version ^^
[12:44] <jules__> firefox 4.1 is installed, cool ^^
[12:46] <kmanzoor> ok i checked the version this way and it says that it is 2.1.3ubuntu25.2
[12:46] <james147> then you have the right version
[12:46] <kmanzoor> thanks james147. the problem solved by it self.
[12:47] <kmanzoor> this proves one thing -- some idiots dont know how to see the version..... lolz
[12:47] <kmanzoor> not some -- at least one
[12:47] <kmanzoor> ok i am going ahead with the instructions for upgrade from 8.4 to 9.10
[12:48]  * james147 suggest upgrading to 10.04 after thats finished....
[12:48] <jules__> is it possible to upgrade from 8.4 to 10.10 by one step?
[12:50] <kmanzoor> the instructions on ubuntu.com are advising against this jump for kubuntu users
[12:51] <kmanzoor> probably because kubuntu 8.4 was not given LTS status
[12:51] <jules__> okie, because i have a cd with version 10.08 iand i must install 4 times to10.10 , xD
[12:52] <james147> jules__: why not grab a new cd :)
[12:52] <jules__> yes, i already have downloaded 2 cds with 10.10 but there is a big problem with GRUB
[12:53] <james147> what problem?
[12:53] <jules__> everytime i try to install from 10.10 cd, i can not find the boat loader for kubuntu
[12:53] <jules__> that is why I still keep the old version cd since 2 years
[12:54] <james147> jules__: but it should be possibly to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10
[12:56] <jules__> yes i am now using 10.10 but i upgrade from 08.10 to 10.10
[12:57] <jules__> do you know why i can see yahoo website with konquerer?
[12:58] <james147> because konqueror is designed to display web pages?
[12:59] <jules__> yahoo.de is "web page" too
[12:59] <james147> you mean can't?
[13:00] <jules__> oh sorry yes
[13:00] <james147> de.yahoo.com/  works on konq here
[13:00] <jules__> I CANT see yahoo.de with konquorer
[13:00] <james147> though it renders better with the wekit backend
[13:01] <james147> jules__: what version of konq?
[13:01] <jules__> from 10.10 cd/ and KDE 4.6.1
[13:03] <james147> well, its working here ^^ try using the webkit back end (install  kpart-webkit) konw > view > view mode
[13:03] <james147> s/konw/konq
[13:03] <jules__> kpart-webkit?
[13:03] <jules__> via adept?
[13:04] <james147> jules__: yeah, it will allow konq to use webkit as a backend, and adept is no longer part of kubuntu, 10.10 uses kpackagekit instead :
[13:05] <jules__> shines complicated
[13:05] <jules__> :D
[13:05] <jules__> so what package should i install? what name?
[13:05] <jules__> kpart?
[13:05] <james147>  kpart-webkit
[13:05] <BluesKaj> Hiyas folks
[13:05] <jules__> kpart-webkit
[13:06] <jules__> adept cant find that package
[13:06] <james147> jules__: what version of kubuntu?
[13:06] <jules__> 10.10
[13:06] <jules__> maverick meerkat
[13:07] <james147> adept is no longer used in kubuntu ^^
[13:07] <jules__> but i have adept... and i can download package with adept
[13:07] <jules__> .... is  pre-installed
[13:07] <BluesKaj> adept is available in the repos
[13:08] <james147> jules__: ^^ it isnt preinstalled anymore, kubuntu comes with kpackagekit now... also ahve you refreshed the packagelists?
[13:08] <BluesKaj> obviously hasn't done a clean install for a few versions :)
[13:08] <jules__> i just upgrade from 08.10 to 10.10 hehe
[13:08] <jules__> kpackagekit
[13:09] <jules__> is new....to me
[13:09] <jules__> yes i have that too
[13:09] <jules__> but i used both programs
[13:09] <jules__> works till now
[13:09] <jules__> :D
[13:10] <Alvo> geez i would need a shortcut key to open the change shortcut key dialog
[13:11] <james147> Alvo: ^^
[13:11] <danubio> hi
[13:11] <danubio> have some problems with Wine
[13:11] <majsterek_> hello
[13:11] <james147> !ask | danubio
[13:12] <majsterek_> what music we listen ?
[13:12] <james147> majsterek_: amarok?
[13:13] <danubio> Exaile
[13:13] <danubio> like exaile
[13:13] <danubio> guayadeque too
[13:15] <majsterek_> sorry for errors, I'm from poland
[13:15] <majsterek_> i use deadbeef
[13:16] <majsterek_> is really good and light
[13:18] <jules__> :-) see you all, thank you james , ubottu
[13:18] <jules__> amarok is best
[13:19] <b2ag> hi everyone. is there a kde/qt application for ripping cdaudio which not depends on kio_audiocd?
[13:19] <majsterek_> no, too much load on your
[13:20] <majsterek_> see you ;)
[13:21] <james147> b2ag: most kde apps depends on kios as it makes them much less complicated to write ^^ any reason why you cant have that kio?
[13:21] <b2ag> james147: it doesn't work
[13:21] <b2ag> can see files and folders but copy does nothing
[13:21] <james147> b2ag: what version of kde?
[13:22] <b2ag> 4.6.1
[13:22] <james147> b2ag: i take it you have tried k3b?
[13:22] <b2ag> what should i do with k3b?
[13:23] <b2ag> i'Ve tried dolphin and copy dialog starts but thats it
[13:23]  * james147 thinks it is capable of ripping cd
[13:23] <b2ag> hangs forever
[13:24] <b2ag> i want to rip one track
[13:24] <james147> ^^ try k3b
[13:25] <b2ag> ah .. found something in k3b
[13:26] <b2ag> yeah
[13:26] <b2ag> many thanks
[13:27] <b2ag> james147 is my hero of the day
[13:31] <BluesKaj> hmmm, amarok is finally working ...again . Wonder for how long ...
[13:43] <anubis> Hallo, weiß einer wo man Einstellungen wie MMAP , MMAP+TRIM2 treffen kann?
[13:44] <anubis> Sollte in einem C-Programm gehen, wenn ich den Text hier richtig deute
[13:46] <BluesKaj> anubis, this the english chat
[13:46] <BluesKaj> is
[13:48] <anubis> sry, so the same again: does anyone where settings like mmap , trim2 oder mmap+trim2 exist? As far as i understand this text, there should be the possibility to change the mode memory is being allocated from within a c-program. Still i dont know what effect those settings have nor WHERE i can set em
[14:48] <miou> Bonjour tout le monde , voila ou j'en suis : systeme installé, configuré , sur fichier de systeme jfs , ayant perdu quelques fichiers apres une coupe d'éléctricité a mon domicile , j'ai voulu migré ma partition root vers du ext4(partition boot et /var non changée et en reiserfs), j'ai donc fait sudo cp -a sur les different fichiers vers une partition unix puis je les ait restaurer avec la même commande , j'ai également changé le fstab pour qu'il
[14:48] <miou> pointe vers le bon systeme de fichiers.  Conclusion:le systeme ne boote plus, toute aide est la bien venue...
[14:49] <jhunold> !fr | miou
[14:55] <miou> Hi everybody, I installed and configured my systeme on a jfs file system , everything working great , after a shortage of electricity , I lost some files and wanted to migrate my root file system to ext4 (I have a boot partition in reiserfs), I copied with sudo cp -a all the files then copied them back on the formated ext4 partition , I also changed the fstab to make it point to the correct filesystem.The problem is I cannot boot anymore the system , any help
[14:55] <miou> is warmly welcome.
[15:33] <shadeslayer> miou: the file permissions are probably all wonky now
[15:33] <shadeslayer> since  you used sudo cp
[15:34] <Daskreech> "probably"
[15:39] <miou> sudo cp -a
[15:39] <miou> Thank you for your answer...
[16:27] <greataussiepie> #connect
[16:41] <greataussiepie> anyone know an easy way to install the KDE gui on easypeasy?
[16:42] <greataussiepie> or a good tutorial??
[16:43] <Peace-> easy what=?
[17:40] <Alvo> hi i cannot shutdown i only have "lock out" , lock , switch user, hibernate, "suspend" in the KDE menu, where can i shutdown?
[17:40] <ua> my partition home is full, and boot also, how to clean my partition home and clean some lines or increase /boot? thank you
[17:41] <Alvo> kubuntu-desktop 1.205
[17:42] <ua> hello  hello, does anyone can help me?
[17:42] <Peace-> !anyone
[17:42] <Alvo> there is the ncdu utility to find where space is wasted
[17:42] <Alvo> ncdu /
[17:44] <ua> can you help me?
[17:46] <Peace-> !anyone | ua
[18:53] <ryrych> hi
[18:53] <ryrych> do you have the same problem as me? http://wstaw.org/m/2011/03/23/firefox2.png
[18:54] <ryrych> I switched off hardware acceleration
[18:54] <ryrych> as I was told but it did not help
[19:00] <quant> ryrych: my telepathy doesn't help me see what your problem is :)
[19:00] <quant> ryrych: yes, same here ;-)
[19:00] <ryrych> quant: graphical glitches below the cursor
[19:01] <ryrych> quant: a Qt problem?
[19:01] <quant> ryrych: the menus on the left side have a gradient, that's what is supposed to appear on the right as well, I think, but it's probably a bug
[19:01] <quant> ryrych: as far as I know, Firefox is GTK, but I'm not an expert on that
[19:01] <ryrych> quant: yes, I mean Qt curve or the lastest magic :)
[19:02] <ryrych> err… newest
[19:02] <quant> ryrych: looks to me like a pure Firefox bug, but I really wouldn't know
[19:04] <ryrych> quant: anyway, thanks for the confirmation. Sometimes there are problems with rendering the UI especially when you migrate from previous version of firefox. I had this problem today in the morning but removing the .mozilla helped
[19:05] <quant> ryrych: sure... it looks fine on windows, though, just for the info
[19:38] <velessky> И тишина....
[19:38] <velessky> И линуксоиды с косами стоят....
[19:39] <genii-around> !ru | velessky
[19:41] <kamran> i am having difficulty getting prints using HP P1102 (i am using kubuntu 9.10)
[21:03] <m477> can some1 help me with taskset? http://wklej.org/id/498894/
[21:18] <tsimpson> m477: did you mean "taskset -c 0 -p 5805"?
[21:19] <m477> yes
[21:19] <m477> same output
[21:19] <m477> tsimpson:
[21:20] <tsimpson> m477: try with "-p -c 0 5805"
[21:22] <m477> tsimpson: http://wklej.org/id/498918/
[21:22] <tsimpson> m477: then the process id is wrong
[21:23] <m477> y i see
[21:23] <m477> it changed
[21:23] <m477> but still is it same output
[21:23] <m477> http://wklej.org/id/498922/
[21:23] <tsimpson> how are you getting the PID?
[21:24] <m477> http://wklej.org/id/498924/
[21:24] <m477> tsimpson:
[21:25] <tsimpson> that's the PID of the grep you ran, not of xclock, and obviously grep exited after it finished
[21:25] <m477> oh
[21:25] <m477> then how can i get PID of process ?
[21:26] <tsimpson> that way, but xclock must be running
[21:27] <m477> tsimpson: but is it any way to check it without running the process?
[21:28] <tsimpson> you can check with "pidof -s xclock"
[21:28] <tsimpson> if it doesn't show anything, xclock isn't running
[21:29] <tsimpson> if it displays anything, it'll be the PID of xclock
[21:29] <m477> it doesnt
[21:29] <tsimpson> then xclock isn't running
[21:30] <m477> no
[21:31] <m477> other thing is im trying to see taskset --cpu-list and it shows me help
[21:32] <tsimpson> --cpu-list is the same as the -c option
[21:32] <m477> and i want to see then
[21:32] <tsimpson> it doesn't list the CPUs, it takes a list of CPUs you give it
[21:32] <m477> and it doesnt
[21:32] <m477> oh
[21:33] <m477> so how can i see avalible processors numbers?
[21:33] <tsimpson> it's the number or processors/cores you have
[21:33] <m477> or how many is there of them
[21:33] <m477> but im working on server
[21:33] <m477> and i dont know tht
[21:33] <m477> that
[21:34] <m477> or i want to just start two so i have to put "taskset -c 0,1" ?
[21:35] <tsimpson> run "egrep '^processor' /proc/cpuinfo" and see how many lines it prints
[21:35] <m477> ok i see
[21:35] <tsimpson> for -c you can use 0,1,2 or you can use 0-4 (For example)
[21:35] <tsimpson> or both
[21:35] <m477> thanks
[21:36] <m477> but other thing is that command as you told "pidof -s xclock" doesnt work ;/
[21:36] <m477> i checked for other process
[21:36] <m477> and it doesnt show nything
[21:36] <m477> anything*
[21:38] <tsimpson> m477: make sure the processes are running
[21:38] <tsimpson> try "pidof -s bash" for instance
[21:38] <tsimpson> or even "pidof -s pidof"
[21:42] <m477> tsimpson: it works, so it works for process which are running
[21:42] <tsimpson> yes, that's what is does
[21:43] <m477> but i want know which doesnt
[21:43] <tsimpson> if it doesn't show anything, then the process isn't running
[21:43] <m477> before i run process in taskset i want to know it PID
[21:44] <m477> do you know what i mean?
[21:44] <tsimpson> the PID gets assigned when a command is run, not before
[21:44] <tsimpson> and it's always unique
[21:44] <m477> so at first i have to run process and then in taskset change processors order?
[21:45] <tsimpson> you run the command, get it's PID, and use that in taskset
[21:46] <m477> ok
[22:02] <mpare> !list