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[06:33] <koolhead17> hi all
[06:34] <flaccid> lo
[07:11] <koolhead17> flaccid,
[07:16] <flaccid> what
[08:15] <kim0> Morning everyone
[08:16] <kim0> flaccid: I guess that was "Morning" :)
[08:23] <flaccid> aka 'mornin'
[08:23] <flaccid> though its night here
[08:23] <flaccid> well sun is going down
[09:00] <koolhead17> flaccid, hellos
[09:00] <koolhead17> hey kim0
[09:04] <flaccid> are you on drugs?
[09:12] <kim0> lol :)
[09:12] <kim0> koolhead17: hey
[09:13] <koolhead17> flaccid, me?
[09:13]  * koolhead17 msg kim0 hey man
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[15:59] <kim0> Hi folks, just letting you know "Ubuntu Cloud Days" starting about now in #ubuntu-classroom .. Thanks
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[16:29] <navanjr> when building and bundling ubuntu images for UEC, does partitioning matter?  is there a reason i would not want to use LVM
[16:45] <obino> navanjr: the AWS partitioning wants the first partition to be root, the second  to be ephemeral and the third one swap
[16:47] <obino> ops ... sorry swap is the third partition
[16:47]  * obino gets it wrong all the time
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[16:56] <sveiss> Hi all, I was directed here from #ubuntu-classroom. I asked a question regarding kernel upgrades. We currently use the official maverick EC2 images, for which there's a kernel upgrade available. On the first boot of an instance (via a user data script), we do an apt-get dist-upgrade followed by a reboot to pick up the new kernel -- is this the best way to handle this?
[17:01] <EvilPhoenix> kim0:  question for you.  what's the minimum in terms of required resources to set up a private cloud?
[17:01] <kim0> EvilPhoenix: for UEC that would be 2 machinse
[17:01] <kim0> one of them at least has to have Intel VT virtualization extensions
[17:01] <kim0> EvilPhoenix: check out the install guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/CDInstall
[17:03] <EvilPhoenix> kim0:  thanks.  FYI, on that page, there's a broken image link :/
[17:03] <EvilPhoenix> about 2/3rds of the way down the page
[17:17] <sveiss> did my question on kernel updates at boot about 20 minutes ago show up? I'm wondering if I hit an IRC line length limit, or am just being ignored *grin*.
[17:18] <jero_> id did, you did not wait long enough though
[17:19] <sveiss> fair enough, I wasn't too sure on the wait etiquette here
[17:20] <jero_> sveiss: on ec2, the kernel is defined at instance creation time
[17:20] <jero_> your instance has an AKI attached to its properties
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[17:21] <jero_> so basically even if you remove the kernel files from /boot, you'll be able to boot anyway
[17:22] <sveiss> The AKI used by the Maverick AMIs is pv-grub
[17:22] <sveiss> so it's loading the kernel from /boot on the images, but the kernel included in those images is out of date
[17:23] <jero_> then it's another story
[17:23] <pweiss> what is the best way to set the instance hostname using cloud-init?
[17:26] <jero_> sveiss: sorry I misread you were using maverick
[17:27] <sveiss> np, and thank you for answering :)
[17:32] <jero_> sveiss: if you're using the default disk images, i believe there's nothing much you can do. maybe condition the reboot upon the installation of a newer kernel
[17:33] <sveiss> jero_: yup, that's what we're doing currently in our first boot script
[17:34] <kim0> what's the problem ?
[17:34] <kim0> why not just apt-get upgrade && reboot ?
[17:34] <kim0> ah .. you're already doing that
[17:34] <sveiss> these instances are brought up automatically by Amazon's auto-scaling, so I'm trying to keep the boot time down
[17:35] <kim0> sveiss: check out kexec
[17:35] <sveiss> thanks, I will do
[17:36] <jero_> smoser: I confirm that my m1.large instances stopped freezing randomly since I downgraded the kernel from 2.6.32-312-ec2 to an older kernel
[17:37] <jero_> smoser: (re monday's dialog)
[17:38] <robbiew> kim0: hey...any progress with x2go for UDS?
[17:39] <kim0> robbiew: I fired a couple of emails, didn't get replies though .. I'll start pestering them right now :)
[17:39] <robbiew> kim0: cool..thnx!
[17:39] <kim0> robbiew: will keep you updated
[17:43] <smoser> jero_, "an older kernel"
[17:43] <smoser> jero_, i would really like it if you could open a bug and explain that
[17:43] <jero_> smoser: yes that's what i'm doing currently :-)
[17:44] <smoser> it would seem that this is "regression release" if i understand you.
[17:45] <smoser> please copy myself (smoser) and stefan-bader-canonical on bug
[17:51] <jero_> yes
[17:55] <kim0> Yuvi_: hey
[17:55] <Yuvi_> hello
[17:56] <kim0> SpamapS: about ready ?
[17:57] <kim0> Yuvi_: so what's up
[17:57] <Yuvi_> for past one week i have been reading about ubuntu cloud
[17:58] <Yuvi_> its really really interesting
[17:59] <kim0> Yuvi_: join the club
[18:00] <Yuvi_> sorry, to which one?
[18:00] <SpamapS> No streaming.. but sure. :)
[18:01] <kim0> SpamapS: awesome .. thought you were gone
[18:08] <navanjr> obino: I have been working thru this: i think i need to research the proper setup of images as it relates to the partitions...  can you share a link to get me going in the right direction?
[18:09] <navanjr> http://goo.gl/QJYNu
[18:12] <kim0> Yuvi_: sorry man .. I got dragged following the new session
[18:13] <Yuvi_> Yes, its okay. Me too following the session
[18:13] <kim0> Yuvi_: hey .. if you want to start hacking on that python tool
[18:13] <kim0> Yuvi_: i'd recommend playing a bit with this tutorial first http://boto.s3.amazonaws.com/ec2_tut.html
[18:13] <kim0> Yuvi_: once you're at peace with boto and aws ..
[18:13] <kim0> ping me and I'll help you get started
[18:13] <kim0> Yuvi_: deal ? :)
[18:14] <Yuvi_> Deal ;)
[18:14] <Yuvi_> how much time i can take?
[18:15] <kim0> Yuvi_: whatever you want man :) it's your call
[18:15] <kim0> Yuvi_: probably a few days .. ping me back when you're comfortable & ready
[18:16] <Yuvi_> Yes, sure :)
[18:16] <kim0> Yuvi_: Awesome .. you're gonna knock em dead :)
[18:17] <kim0> Yuvi_: I'll jump back to the ensemble session now
[18:17] <Yuvi_> :) :) lets see
[18:17] <kim0> feel free to ping me anytime though
[18:18] <Yuvi_> its 11:47 PM here, I will catch you tomorrow :)
[18:18] <kim0> absolutely
[18:19] <Yuvi_> do i need to explore the whole thing?
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[18:20] <kim0> Yuvi_: just that page
[18:20] <kim0> the ec2 tut one
[18:21] <Yuvi_> okay, cool !
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[18:52] <kim0> hallyn: o/
[18:52] <kim0> ready for your irc talk
[18:53] <hallyn> well i just last-minute had to set up a replacement demo machine on amazon (the rackspace one has a kernel that wont' suffice)
[18:53] <hallyn> but i think so
[18:54] <kim0> great
[19:23] <navanjr> can someone help me understand the best practice for building my own ubuntu images for UEC
[19:24] <navanjr> should i be creating it from a ubuntu install iso
[19:24] <navanjr> or should i modify an existing published AMI
[19:24] <navanjr> can i start an instance modify it and turn a snapshot into an ami?
[19:25] <kim0> navanjr: Hi .. yeah
[19:25] <navanjr> howdy!
[19:25] <kim0> navanjr: if you can wait .. tomorrow Scott is presenting a session on the details of that .. check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuCloudDays
[19:27] <kim0> navanjr: instead of creating a full custom image .. I would advise booting a stock ubuntu image, then using cloud-init to do your needed customizations
[19:28] <navanjr> ok ill get familar before tomorrow session
[19:28] <kim0> navanjr: great :)
[19:29] <navanjr> thanks! cya tomorrow
[19:31] <kim0> cya
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[19:41] <navanjr> i cant seem to locate the ubuntu users password on the console
[19:41] <navanjr> goes by too fast and i cant pause it
[19:41] <kim0> navanjr: u should ssh by keys
[19:42] <navanjr> also it is not listed on the KVM serial console like suggested here... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/Images
[19:43] <kim0> navanjr: you can have the password set though
[19:52] <navanjr> kim0: I'm familiar with key injection, and user-data-file when launching my instance... but dont i want to run this image from my local KVM to get my changes made before i bundle?
[19:53] <kim0> navanjr: pass the kernel option .... ubuntu-pass=foo123
[19:53] <kim0> will make your password .. foo123
[20:04] <crazed> uec doesn't work well in a vpc :( tries to access the 10.x range of the uec repos
[20:06] <crazed> s/uec repos/aws repos/
[20:29] <navanjr> 2timothy3
[20:30] <navanjr> sorry wrong irc
[20:38] <crazed> it showed up as ********
[20:38] <crazed> you must have typed your password
[20:40] <navanjr> nice!
[20:52] <patrickw> Anyone running centos 5.5 VMs on Ubuntu (10.04) kernels?  I'm having an issue where it seems that my VMs can't load kernel modules when they first boot, but if I subsequently reboot them they work fine...
[20:53] <patrickw> Actually, is seems as though they can't load kernel modules only on the initial boot process...  so I have services that fail, but if I either reboot -or- log in and start them manually they work fine.
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