| nigelb | where're all the creative minds | 00:23 |
|---|---|---|
| nigelb | jcastro: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UGJDay :) | 00:43 |
| head_victim | nigelb: nice lineup | 00:49 |
| nigelb | head_victim: :) | 00:56 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:26 |
| duanedesign | o/ | 07:33 |
| nigelb | morning dholbach :) | 07:37 |
| nigelb | dholbach: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJamBootcamp :) | 07:38 |
| dholbach | hi nigelb | 07:52 |
| dholbach | nigelb, NICE | 07:52 |
| nigelb | dholbach: :) | 07:54 |
| nigelb | morning ara :) | 07:54 |
| ara | morning nigelb | 08:06 |
| kim0 | Morning | 08:13 |
| kim0 | dholbach: nigelb ara o/ | 08:13 |
| dholbach | hey kim0 | 08:13 |
| nigelb | hey kim0 | 08:18 |
| kim0 | Enjoying nice sun rays everywhere :) | 08:20 |
| * kim0 remembers "Sun" ray product .. Awesome name if u ask me | 08:21 | |
| nigelb | hola kim0 :) | 08:34 |
| nigelb | mornign dpm :) | 08:34 |
| kim0 | dpm: howdy | 08:34 |
| dpm | morning kim0, morning nigelb! | 08:46 |
| === daker_ is now known as daker | ||
| czajkowski | akgraner: want new AW 03 ? | 11:32 |
| duanedesign | dholbach: is the mindmap you used during UDS-N packaging sessions on line anywhere? It was the one you used to show all the different areas of Ubutnu Dev. | 11:47 |
| dholbach | hang on | 11:47 |
| dholbach | duanedesign, http://people.canonical.com/~dholbach/Things%20to%20learn.png | 11:49 |
| duanedesign | :) | 11:49 |
| duanedesign | thank you | 11:49 |
| dholbach | de nada | 11:49 |
| duanedesign | dholbach: in the last few weeks we have had in increase in the number of people signing up for the Beginners Team who are interested in development | 11:50 |
| dholbach | nice | 11:51 |
| dholbach | we need to talk about screencasts :) | 11:51 |
| duanedesign | dholbach: We need more mentors experienced in Ubuntu Development | 11:51 |
| dholbach | mentoring is a hard topic | 11:52 |
| dholbach | mostly everyone who does development is busy doing development | 11:52 |
| duanedesign | right | 11:53 |
| dholbach | you can talk to huats about that | 11:53 |
| duanedesign | ok, thank you | 11:54 |
| huats | i am here :) | 11:54 |
| duanedesign | hello huats | 11:55 |
| huats | Hi duanedesign | 11:55 |
| duanedesign | huats: i was just mentioning to daniel that the Beginners Team has had an increase in the number of people interested in Ubuntu Development | 11:56 |
| huats | duanedesign, I can imagine that ! | 11:57 |
| huats | duanedesign, currently the mentoring effort is almost stopped | 11:57 |
| duanedesign | huats: i am worried that we do not have enough mentors to help these people | 11:57 |
| huats | I have try several times to restart it | 11:57 |
| huats | but without success so far... | 11:57 |
| huats | it is the main problem... | 11:58 |
| duanedesign | we have been working with the bug squad to better integrate the Beginners Team with their existing mentoring efforts. More or less unifying the two. | 12:01 |
| duanedesign | huats: do you think a similar process with the MOTU mentoring program could help? | 12:02 |
| huats | duanedesign, why ot | 12:02 |
| huats | at least we could try it... | 12:02 |
| * duanedesign nods | 12:03 | |
| duanedesign | dholbach: we need to get busy on some screencasts :) | 12:16 |
| popey | \o/ | 12:16 |
| duanedesign | dholbach: i noticed you added to the packaging guide | 12:16 |
| duanedesign | :) | 12:16 |
| duanedesign | my first sttempt got derailed with some problems I had with testdrive | 12:17 |
| duanedesign | huats: ok if i email you about the mentoring? | 12:35 |
| huats | sure duanedesign | 12:49 |
| duanedesign | sounds great, thanks | 12:50 |
| dholbach | duanedesign, we do | 14:24 |
| dholbach | duanedesign, which topics do you think we should cover first? | 14:24 |
| duanedesign | dholbach: i was thinking. Getting set-up and Finding opportunities for the first one | 14:37 |
| dholbach | duanedesign, what about the "general introduction to ubuntu development"? it'd be more a video than a screencast, but how do you feel about it? | 14:38 |
| duanedesign | dholbach: that would be cool if we could make some nice graphics. | 14:40 |
| dholbach | hum, how do we best do that? | 14:41 |
| duanedesign | dholbach: i have not made any animations on Linux. I have made plenty for work using flash(though I would want to use opensource software) | 14:41 |
| jcastro | dholbach: I need a good picture of dylan mccall, do you have anything embarrassing? | 14:42 |
| dholbach | duanedesign, another option would be to DO a screencast, but show a presentation in libreoffice | 14:42 |
| nigelb | I have to tweet that one :P | 14:43 |
| dholbach | jcastro, just a sec | 14:43 |
| duanedesign | dholbach: yes that would probably be good way to handle it | 14:45 |
| dholbach | duanedesign, ok, I'm happy to work on that one as I'm working on presentation material anyway | 14:46 |
| dholbach | duanedesign, shall we start a thread about the others ones to come up with "scripts" for the videocasts? | 14:46 |
| duanedesign | dholbach: some input on the seperating of the contents into managable chunks would be helpful | 14:48 |
| dholbach | great | 14:48 |
| dholbach | there's a ubuntu-screencasts mailing list right? | 14:48 |
| popey | there is | 14:49 |
| duanedesign | dholbach: maybe once we start getting more specific with creating a script it will be more obvious | 14:49 |
| dholbach | I'm happy to start the conversation | 14:49 |
| duanedesign | sounds good | 14:49 |
| dholbach | so is it ubuntu-screencasts@lists.u.c? | 14:50 |
| duanedesign | Ubuntu-screencasts@lists.ubuntu.com | 14:50 |
| duanedesign | :P | 14:50 |
| * dholbach nods | 14:51 | |
| duanedesign | i guess a simple yes would have worked | 14:51 |
| dholbach | on it | 14:51 |
| duanedesign | :) | 14:51 |
| jcastro | dholbach: we have a call today right? | 14:53 |
| dholbach | jcastro, 7m, no? | 14:53 |
| dholbach | duanedesign, sent | 14:54 |
| dholbach | duanedesign, I'll let you know once I'm done with the presentation material | 14:55 |
| === jono is now known as Guest31382 | ||
| dholbach | hey Guest31382 | 14:59 |
| jono_ | dholbach, kim0, jcastro, dpm all set? | 15:01 |
| dholbach | yep | 15:01 |
| jcastro | yeah! | 15:01 |
| dpm | yep! | 15:02 |
| jono_ | one sec | 15:02 |
| kim0 | yeah | 15:02 |
| kim0 | jono_: hey | 15:04 |
| jcastro | jono_: you'll have a new dee in 11.04 in about an hour, when you get that, upgrade, log out/in, and the lens should work | 16:01 |
| jono_ | jcastro, ok | 16:03 |
| jono_ | cool | 16:03 |
| jcastro | "unity" in a terminal will also work, it just restarts unity | 16:03 |
| jcastro | if you don't want to lose work, etc. | 16:03 |
| jcastro | <--- off to lunch now | 16:03 |
| czajkowski | jcastro: can you fix the issue I have where unity just freezes :( | 16:07 |
| popey | czajkowski: see your sound bug updated? | 16:09 |
| jcastro | czajkowski: the new compiz upload should fix that | 16:09 |
| jcastro | czajkowski: let me guess, crashing all weekend? | 16:09 |
| jono_ | jcastro, compiz has been held back for a few days | 16:10 |
| jono_ | is that normal? | 16:10 |
| jcastro | it was held back until last night | 16:11 |
| jcastro | but it all needs to rebuild again | 16:11 |
| jono_ | ok cool | 16:11 |
| === jono_ is now known as jono | ||
| jcastro | which will trigger another unity rebuild probably | 16:11 |
| jcastro | so basically today is like a thursday, all new things | 16:12 |
| jcastro | queue is about an hour on the builders, so say .... 3 hours or so before it's all sorted? | 16:12 |
| jcastro | <--- ok lunch for real now | 16:13 |
| popey | BARK BARK JCASTRO BARK BARK HELLO! | 16:13 |
| popey | (only did that to see if I could get you back to the keyboard away from your lunch) | 16:13 |
| popey | /nick evilpopey | 16:13 |
| jono | jcastro, so new unity today? | 16:15 |
| czajkowski | popey: no.... | 16:21 |
| czajkowski | jcastro: it's been like this since I installed it over a week ago. will do some updates and see if it imporoves | 16:21 |
| popey | czajkowski: there's been a comment on your bug | 16:24 |
| popey | today | 16:24 |
| czajkowski | popey: got a link.. please :( | 16:24 |
| popey | sure | 16:24 |
| popey | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/734427 | 16:25 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 734427 in alsa-driver "[Realtek ALC660-VD] upgrade from Maverick to Natty causes loss of sound" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 16:25 |
| popey | pasuspender -- speaker-test -D plughw:Intel -c 2 -t sine | 16:25 |
| popey | wants you to run that | 16:25 |
| czajkowski | aye wqill do that tonight | 16:28 |
| czajkowski | popey: thanks | 16:30 |
| popey | np | 16:30 |
| czajkowski | the really annoying thing I find in natty atm is when I got to power down I keep hitting the other button where shut down used to be | 16:31 |
| czajkowski | and also my default browser has changed to FF | 16:31 |
| mhall119 | change it back | 16:39 |
| czajkowski | I shouldnt have to on an upgrade it should go changing my defaults >:( | 16:40 |
| czajkowski | mhall119: but yes will have to | 16:40 |
| mhall119 | I think it's something with the new FF4 package, I've seen others complain about it too | 16:40 |
| mhall119 | possibly someone, in their haste to package it as soon as possible, didn't take it into account | 16:41 |
| jcastro | jono: it's just a rebuild | 16:42 |
| jono | jcastro, ok cool | 16:42 |
| jcastro | jono: when they upload a new compiz there's some ABI thing or something C++ blah blah | 16:42 |
| jono | so not pulling from trunk? | 16:42 |
| jcastro | it makes me head spin | 16:42 |
| jcastro | not until thursday | 16:42 |
| jcastro | but it's the same as thursday as in "your entire desktop will get upgraded today" | 16:43 |
| jono | np | 16:43 |
| jcastro | so I went to the farmer's market to get a salad | 16:44 |
| jcastro | because I want to eat healthier | 16:44 |
| jcastro | http://www.mini-babybel.com/ | 16:44 |
| jcastro | but I just had to have these so I bought a bag. | 16:44 |
| jcastro | anyway cheese is amazing, that's all I have to add | 16:45 |
| popey | we have those in our fridge | 17:03 |
| popey | and usually it falls to me to construct a small man out of the wax once the cheese is eaten | 17:04 |
| popey | we had cheese for tea last night. just got a round of brie, put it in the oven (in its bamboo pot and some foil) and baked it for 30 mins ish | 17:04 |
| popey | then oozed it all over crackers | 17:04 |
| popey | \o/ cheese | 17:04 |
| AlanBell | nom | 17:04 |
| dholbach | alrightie - I'll call it a day - see you all tomorrow - HUGS! | 17:09 |
| kim0 | UCD rocking with 220 attendees .. lovely :) | 17:10 |
| * dholbach hugs kim0 | 17:10 | |
| dholbach | good work! | 17:10 |
| * kim0 hugs dholbach back | 17:10 | |
| kim0 | Thanks everyone for the help | 17:11 |
| jono | kim0, :-) | 17:11 |
| Technoviking | jcastro: salad? what is this salad you speak of? | 17:19 |
| Technoviking | :) | 17:19 |
| jcastro | Technoviking: well, it did have meat on it. | 17:20 |
| Technoviking | heh | 17:21 |
| * czajkowski had wild bore at the weekend | 17:25 | |
| czajkowski | rather chewy and tasty | 17:25 |
| * Technoviking is buying a new gas/wood smoker combo grill this weekend. | 17:27 | |
| === daker is now known as daker_ | ||
| jcastro | who's on 11.04? | 18:22 |
| mhall119 | Technoviking: i love my smoker | 18:24 |
| jcastro | hah | 20:58 |
| jcastro | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/unity-2d/3.8-0ubuntu1 | 20:58 |
| jcastro | best. changelog. ever. | 20:58 |
| czajkowski | jcastro: I'm on 11.04 | 20:59 |
| jcastro | lovely | 20:59 |
| jcastro | I'll have a lens for you in a minute! | 20:59 |
| czajkowski | lens? | 20:59 |
| jcastro | a dash thing | 20:59 |
| jcastro | what were called places | 20:59 |
| czajkowski | ok | 21:01 |
| popey | see! | 21:12 |
| popey | seeeee! | 21:12 |
| czajkowski | noooo | 21:13 |
| * popey reboots into 11.04 | 21:14 | |
| popey | bah | 21:42 |
| czajkowski | popey: sup | 21:47 |
| jcastro | ok 11.04 folks | 21:47 |
| jcastro | ppa:askubuntu-tools/ppa | 21:47 |
| jcastro | add that | 21:47 |
| jcastro | and then install unity-place-askubuntu | 21:47 |
| jcastro | and then log out and back in (or restart unity with "unity" in the command line) | 21:48 |
| jcastro | and you should be set! | 21:48 |
| popey | al;t-tab crashes unity | 21:48 |
| jcastro | Joeb454: around? | 21:52 |
| jcastro | and/or Technoviking | 21:52 |
| jcastro | popey: czajkowski: ahh, compiz updates show up for me | 21:53 |
| jcastro | this is supposed to fix all that | 21:53 |
| popey | i updated mine just now | 21:53 |
| Joeb454 | jcastro: what's up? | 21:55 |
| jcastro | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1712630 | 21:55 |
| jcastro | suggestions for this ranch hand guy? | 21:55 |
| jcastro | I mean, I could reply with "where are your bug reports?" | 21:56 |
| jcastro | then he'll say he has none | 21:56 |
| jcastro | and even though I want to flame the guy for acting like an asshole maybe someone can talk to him? | 21:56 |
| jcastro | Basically he just trolls every Natty thread with his problems, but it's not condusive to fixing people's problems | 21:57 |
| jcastro | I can appreciate it doesn't work for him but he's really not helping anyone other than just making me hate reading | 21:57 |
| Joeb454 | jcastro: I'll try and think up a nice reply but get you're point across | 21:57 |
| jcastro | I am pretty sure most of his problems are pebkac | 21:58 |
| popey | thats a little unfair | 21:58 |
| Joeb454 | popey: what's a little unfair? | 22:02 |
| popey | pebkac | 22:02 |
| popey | i have machines that flat out dont boot 10.04, thats not pebkac | 22:02 |
| popey | which is most of the point he's making | 22:02 |
| czajkowski | jono: we skyping ? | 22:03 |
| * Joeb454 nods. I can agree there, but he could make his point better without being quite so passive-aggressive | 22:03 | |
| popey | sure | 22:03 |
| jono | czajkowski, it was an hour ago wasnt it? | 22:03 |
| czajkowski | always at 10 no ? | 22:04 |
| jono | czajkowski, just give me a sec and I will be free | 22:04 |
| czajkowski | no bother | 22:04 |
| jcastro | popey: well the guy is always posting his crackrock; I didn't just judge him based on that one post. It's his posting history | 22:04 |
| popey | ok, i only looked at that thread, sorry. | 22:05 |
| jcastro | one of those "well that never works so what you do is remove half the OS...." kinda things | 22:05 |
| popey | right | 22:06 |
| Joeb454 | his posts aren't over any sort of line, but I agree they could be better | 22:11 |
| Joeb454 | they're quite passive-aggressive at the minute. I imagine the reply to my actions will be less passive, sadly :( | 22:12 |
| jcastro | right | 22:13 |
| jcastro | I'm just saying, who would want to be involved in that discussion? | 22:14 |
| jcastro | he's derailed the thread, and his problems have nothing to do with the topic | 22:14 |
| jcastro | it's the same thing we have in ubuntu-users, people not technically violating the CoC, but doing just enough to ruin participating for people | 22:14 |
| Joeb454 | it's difficult to deal with. In fact, it's the one part of the forum I dislike the most, having to deal with cases like that. A lot of people can't see what they're doing, and you have to word everything so carefully to avoid the response you don't want to get | 22:16 |
| Joeb454 | but yeah, it does spoil it for others, at the end of the day | 22:16 |
| jcastro | Joeb454: right, on the other hand you have people who are like "it's sad that ubuntu developers don't read the forums" | 22:18 |
| jcastro | well gee, I wonder why! :) | 22:18 |
| Joeb454 | 6 of 1, half a dozen of the other ;) | 22:19 |
| Joeb454 | there's partial blame on both sides of that, IMO | 22:19 |
| Joeb454 | well, blame isn't the right word | 22:20 |
| * jcastro blames popey | 22:23 | |
| Joeb454 | popey: are you in the same position as me? Most of the staff blame me if anything happens to the forum | 22:26 |
| jcastro | Joeb454: popey's in the same position, but for the entire project. | 22:29 |
| jcastro | buttons on the left, popey. | 22:29 |
| jcastro | czajkowski: almost done building | 22:30 |
| jcastro | when it's done just a normal upgrade should bring it in | 22:31 |
| nigelb | good morning :) | 22:32 |
| czajkowski | yay | 22:36 |
| jcastro | popey: are you on 11.04? | 22:39 |
| jcastro | czajkowski's getting a crash but I suspect her mirror is out o date | 22:39 |
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