| ev | CarlFK: apologies, I had to end on time yesterday as I had evening plans | 08:31 |
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| ev | cjwatson: awesome! | 08:31 |
| ev | bdmurray: that sounds reasonable, but I agree with cjwatson: a series of steps we can reproduce in a VM would be stellar. | 08:31 |
| cjwatson | bdmurray: I've never tried to set up Windows in a VM; though one thing I'd say is that quite often Windows partitioning bugs should be reproducible using mkntfs in Linux | 09:41 |
| === ogra is now known as Guest42038 | ||
| === Guest42038 is now known as ogra_ | ||
| CIA-31 | ubiquity: evand * r4594 trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): | 09:46 |
| CIA-31 | ubiquity: Add a partitioning heading to help clarify what operating systems | 09:46 |
| CIA-31 | ubiquity: may be acted upon by the installer. | 09:46 |
| ev | trying to reproduce this "everything gets deleted when I select replace Ubuntu" bug now, as there haven't been any follow ups on the bug | 09:48 |
| ev | bum, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/partman-auto/+bug/740881 | 10:58 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 740881 in partman-auto "Replace option does not call swapoff for any swap partitions on the disk" [Critical,Confirmed] | 10:58 |
| ev | (trying to make more of a habit out of filing bugs as I see them, rather than writing them down in notepads as things to do, in the hopes that less falls through the cracks) | 10:59 |
| CIA-31 | ubiquity: evand * r4594 trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): | 11:35 |
| CIA-31 | ubiquity: Add a partitioning heading to help clarify what operating systems | 11:35 |
| CIA-31 | ubiquity: may be acted upon by the installer. | 11:35 |
| CIA-31 | ubiquity: evand * r4595 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/misc.py): | 11:35 |
| CIA-31 | ubiquity: * Remove ' (loader)' from the os-prober operating system descriptions on | 11:35 |
| CIA-31 | ubiquity: the initial partitioning page. | 11:35 |
| CIA-31 | ubiquity: evand * r4596 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/plugins/ubi-partman.py): | 11:35 |
| CIA-31 | ubiquity: * Properly substitute in the non-Ubuntu system when generating descriptions | 11:35 |
| CIA-31 | ubiquity: for dual boot partitioning. | 11:35 |
| CIA-31 | partman-auto: evand * r603 ubuntu/ (automatically_partition/replace/do_option debian/changelog): | 11:36 |
| CIA-31 | partman-auto: Disable swap partitions on the same disk before deleting the | 11:36 |
| CIA-31 | partman-auto: partition in the replace option (LP: #740881). | 11:36 |
| CIA-31 | partman-auto: evand * r604 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 93ubuntu12 | 11:39 |
| ev | of course that invoked the oom killer on swapoff for me in testing, but there's not much we can do there right now :-/ | 11:40 |
| ev | (in natty, that is) | 11:40 |
| * cjwatson tries to figure out the exact algorithm for parsing /proc/self/mountinfo, per bug 738345 | 11:42 | |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 738345 in grub2 "Grub2 entries to boot Wubi incorrect... "Error: file not found, Press any key to continue" at boot" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/738345 | 11:42 |
| cjwatson | I need to do something with the mnt_id and mnt_parent->mnt_id fields | 11:43 |
| cjwatson | preferably without actually having to build the full graph structure in GRUB | 11:43 |
| ev | heh | 11:43 |
| * cjwatson takes the rare step of getting out some paper | 11:43 | |
| * ogra_ wonders if having no locales on the image at all might cause the breakage of his serial oem-config UI | 11:44 | |
| cjwatson | ogra_: that's possible, you should really have at least en_US.UTF-8 | 11:45 |
| ogra_ | i'll generate it and see if something changes | 11:45 |
| cjwatson | * Run the debconf frontend in a UTF-8 locale (en_US.UTF-8, since d-i | 11:45 |
| cjwatson | guarantees that that always exists) so that newt uses proper window | 11:45 |
| cjwatson | borders and can display non-ASCII characters. | 11:45 |
| cjwatson | (debian/changelog.oem-config) | 11:45 |
| ogra_ | aww | 11:45 |
| ogra_ | k | 11:45 |
| * ogra_ verifies then | 11:46 | |
| cjwatson | OK, I think I can do this in a single linear pass | 11:51 |
| ogra_ | heh | 11:55 |
| ogra_ | that changed something but still looks broken | 11:55 |
| * ogra_ tries with TERM=vt100 again | 11:59 | |
| ogra_ | hmm, still only a cursor when using vt100 | 12:02 |
| ogra_ | and the locale generation (and setting LANG everywhere) didnt really improve much, i have different broken chars for the frames now | 12:03 |
| cjwatson | your terminal may need to be running in a UTF-8 locale too | 12:03 |
| ogra_ | well, i run it on ubuntu, minicom should pick up my default locale, no ? | 12:04 |
| ogra_ | from gnome-terminal i mean | 12:04 |
| ogra_ | ogra@isis:~$ env|grep ^LANG | 12:05 |
| ogra_ | LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 | 12:05 |
| ogra_ | aha ... having en_US.UTF-8 generated locally too gets me a cursor (still broken frames though) even with TERM=xterm | 12:11 |
| ogra_ | ah, crap, no, i had exported vt100 before | 12:12 |
| ev | wow, I'm awful | 12:17 |
| ev | patch incoming for the replace issue | 12:17 |
| ev | also, is there a downside to using umount -f, or should we be using it everywhere? | 12:17 |
| cjwatson | are you using NFS a lot? | 12:18 |
| mterry | ev, cjwatson: how do I open a bug against geoname-lookup.ubuntu.com? | 12:19 |
| ev | cjwatson: no, but every now and again partman seems to get caught up around the umount calls in replace/reuse | 12:19 |
| ev | mterry: uhm, that's a good question | 12:19 |
| ev | there isn't a project for it | 12:19 |
| ev | creating now | 12:20 |
| mterry | ev, I got a bug against indicator-datetime about searching for "san francisco" | 12:20 |
| mterry | ev, and it seems to be a server issue | 12:20 |
| cjwatson | mterry: I think I'd use RT | 12:20 |
| ev | or that | 12:20 |
| cjwatson | ev: umount -f is only documented as helping with NFS. Maybe umount -l instead? | 12:20 |
| ev | actually | 12:20 |
| ev | I control the code, I think | 12:20 |
| mterry | ev, so I come bug you on IRC then? :) | 12:21 |
| mterry | ev, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/740874 | 12:21 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 740874 in indicator-datetime ""Location" auto-complete menu doesn't know about San Francisco, USA" [Undecided,New] | 12:21 |
| ev | cjwatson: sure, lazy would work, presumably | 12:22 |
| ev | mterry: digging | 12:24 |
| ev | https://rt.admin.canonical.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=39986 | 12:28 |
| ev | https://rt.admin.canonical.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=42610 | 12:28 |
| ev | https://code.launchpad.net/~ev/+junk/geoname | 12:28 |
| ev | I'll make a proper project for that now | 12:28 |
| mterry | ev, ok, I'll assign a couple bugs to it | 12:31 |
| ev | mterry: cool | 12:34 |
| ev | https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-geonames | 12:34 |
| ev | we'll still have to bug IS to do pulls | 12:34 |
| ev | as I don't believe I have access to that server | 12:35 |
| mterry | ev, OK, targetted a couple to the project. thanks | 12:36 |
| ev | okay, I created a team and added you, so you should be able to commit directly | 12:40 |
| ev | if you need to and you can't, let me know and I'll chase it down | 12:40 |
| mterry | k, thanks | 12:41 |
| ev | I've also updated those two RTs to point at it | 12:46 |
| CIA-31 | partman-auto: evand * r605 partman-auto.ubuntu/ (automatically_partition/replace/do_option debian/changelog): | 12:51 |
| CIA-31 | partman-auto: * Make sure we have a partition selected for autopartitioning, not the | 12:51 |
| CIA-31 | partman-auto: disk, when using the replace option (LP: #738366). | 12:51 |
| ev | ugh | 12:51 |
| ogra_ | oh, screen works a lot better than minicom, intresting | 13:26 |
| ogra_ | UTF-8 is still broken though, but i have colors and a cursor | 13:26 |
| ev | nice, agy already pointed at the new branch location for geonames | 13:59 |
| ev | someday we'll get a real layout engine in our UI toolkit... :-/ | 14:00 |
| mterry | ev, is geonames localized in any fashion? always seems to give back english answers? | 14:05 |
| ev | if memory serves, not exactly | 14:06 |
| ev | we're at the mercy of the data dump from geonames.org | 14:06 |
| cjwatson | that's what we want in the installer case, I think - localisation happens on the client side | 14:06 |
| ev | localizing on the client side for the results of a search in the timezone box would be quite the endeavor as it returns more than olsendb locations | 14:08 |
| mterry | It would be nice if we could just add the language in the query, right? Like &lang=fr | 14:09 |
| mterry | then get the same set of results, but with french names from the database | 14:10 |
| ev | yeah, that would be nice, though we'd have to add tables or construct the database differently for that | 14:15 |
| ev | I think | 14:16 |
| * ev looks a bit harder rather than just guessing :-P | 14:16 | |
| mterry | It's definitely in the source data, but yeah, we might not be replicating it in the database | 14:20 |
| ev | actually, one way of doing it would be to just to try to match against alternatenames and return that instead of name | 14:20 |
| ev | it wouldn't ensure all the text was localized | 14:21 |
| mterry | well, if we don't have a french translation for something, better to show english than nothing i'd say | 14:21 |
| ev | but if you searched for espana, you wouldn't get spain back | 14:21 |
| ev | indeed | 14:21 |
| mterry | I think that would be fine, as long as you were in spanish locale | 14:22 |
| ev | I don't think they're mapped to locales in the database | 14:23 |
| ev | its a comma separated varchar(500) | 14:23 |
| ev | alternatenames, that is | 14:23 |
| ev | I know, lets just create a script that pipes it all through google translate once and tries to guess the language table to place it in ;) | 14:24 |
| mterry | ev, the 3rd column in alternatenames seems to be a locale | 14:26 |
| mterry | or maybe that's just the country of the location? | 14:27 |
| ev | ohhh | 14:27 |
| ev | I was looking at the column in geonames, not the table | 14:27 |
| ev | neat | 14:27 |
| mterry | this data is whack. | 14:28 |
| mterry | 120903 165131 Tell Sabaïne | 14:28 |
| mterry | 120905 165131 Tall Şabayn | 14:28 |
| mterry | 120904 165131 Tell Sanaïne | 14:28 |
| mterry | those are presumably all the same place? but different names? | 14:28 |
| ev | oh yeah, it's all sorts of weird in places | 14:28 |
| mterry | they have different locations though and no 3rd column | 14:28 |
| cjwatson | ev: oh, that kind of answer, OK | 14:43 |
| cjwatson | I was thinking of timezone IDs | 14:43 |
| cjwatson | argh, I fix one bit of Wubi and another mysteriously falls over | 16:05 |
| * cjwatson plays whack-a-mole | 16:06 | |
| cjwatson | double argh, now kvm is being mysteriously silent | 16:08 |
| ev | wuh oh | 16:09 |
| cjwatson | ah, it was bug 736351 | 16:13 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 736351 in vgabios "natty vgabios installs links into /usr/share/kvm" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/736351 | 16:13 |
| cjwatson | I think. Upgrading cleared it up, anyway | 16:14 |
| CIA-31 | grub-installer: cjwatson * r1200 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.60ubuntu2 | 16:35 |
| CIA-31 | localechooser: cjwatson * r160 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.34ubuntu3 | 16:37 |
| CIA-31 | partman-auto: evand * r607 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 93ubuntu13 | 16:38 |
| CIA-31 | partman-auto-loop: cjwatson * r56 ubuntu/debian/ (changelog partman-auto-loop.templates po/templates.pot): Improve wording of partman-auto-loop/unclean_ntfs. | 16:42 |
| CIA-31 | partman-auto-loop: cjwatson * r57 ubuntu/debian/po/templates.pot: fix Report-Msgid-Bugs-To | 16:49 |
| CIA-31 | partman-auto-loop: cjwatson * r58 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 0ubuntu19 | 16:50 |
| bdmurray | ev: is there a reason bug 740903 doesn't have a natty task? I'm pretty sure that kate keeps an eye on the natty tasks so that wouldn't show up. | 17:16 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 740903 in ubiquity "return_to_partitioning fails when the replace option fails" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/740903 | 17:16 |
| ev | bdmurray: done, thanks. | 17:17 |
| bdmurray | ev: thanks, I'd have been happy to do it - just wanted to make sure | 17:18 |
| ev | right-o | 17:18 |
| ev | any objections to a new ubiquity? | 17:20 |
| bdmurray | that'd be good for the bug day fwiw | 17:22 |
| CIA-31 | ubiquity: evand * r4598 trunk/ (139 files in 3 dirs): Update translations from Launchpad. | 17:36 |
| ev | ah, looks like I'm still blocked on builds/publisher anyway | 17:38 |
| Jemt | Hello. The ubuntu user on the Ubuntu Live CD (remastered) does not honor settings in /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.upower.policy (I disabled Suspend and Hibernation). However, it works for new users created on the Live CD. How can I solve the problem for the default ubuntu user ? | 19:24 |
| Jemt | (I ask in here since this seems to be the place were the actual Ubuntu developers/geeks are hanging out) | 19:25 |
| CIA-31 | ubiquity: evand * r4599 trunk/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog): | 20:15 |
| CIA-31 | ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: console-setup | 20:15 |
| CIA-31 | ubiquity: 1.57ubuntu17, grub-installer 1.60ubuntu2, localechooser 2.34ubuntu3, | 20:15 |
| CIA-31 | ubiquity: partman-auto 93ubuntu13, partman-auto-loop 0ubuntu19. | 20:15 |
| CIA-31 | ubiquity: evand * r4600 trunk/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.5.28 | 20:54 |
| CIA-31 | ubiquity: evand * r4601 trunk/ (debian/changelog po/LINGUAS): Remove cy from LINGUAS. Fixes build failure. | 21:14 |
| * ev grumbles | 21:17 | |
| CIA-31 | ubiquity: evand * r4602 trunk/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.5.29 | 21:22 |
| ev | hm, it would be nice if the debconf protocol had a means to get the list of variables used for substitution | 22:09 |
| ev | well, worked around it for now by manually parsing templates.dat | 23:14 |
| ev | (want to be able to assert question_only_has_variables(question, variables=[]) in tests, in case the template changes once the tests are written) | 23:15 |
| ev | err rather, I now do | 23:16 |
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