evCarlFK: apologies, I had to end on time yesterday as I had evening plans08:31
evcjwatson: awesome!08:31
evbdmurray: that sounds reasonable, but I agree with cjwatson: a series of steps we can reproduce in a VM would be stellar.08:31
cjwatsonbdmurray: I've never tried to set up Windows in a VM; though one thing I'd say is that quite often Windows partitioning bugs should be reproducible using mkntfs in Linux09:41
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CIA-31ubiquity: evand * r4594 trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs):09:46
CIA-31ubiquity: Add a partitioning heading to help clarify what operating systems09:46
CIA-31ubiquity: may be acted upon by the installer.09:46
evtrying to reproduce this "everything gets deleted when I select replace Ubuntu" bug now, as there haven't been any follow ups on the bug09:48
evbum, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/partman-auto/+bug/74088110:58
ubot2Launchpad bug 740881 in partman-auto "Replace option does not call swapoff for any swap partitions on the disk" [Critical,Confirmed]10:58
ev(trying to make more of a habit out of filing bugs as I see them, rather than writing them down in notepads as things to do, in the hopes that less falls through the cracks)10:59
CIA-31ubiquity: evand * r4594 trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs):11:35
CIA-31ubiquity: Add a partitioning heading to help clarify what operating systems11:35
CIA-31ubiquity: may be acted upon by the installer.11:35
CIA-31ubiquity: evand * r4595 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/misc.py):11:35
CIA-31ubiquity: * Remove ' (loader)' from the os-prober operating system descriptions on11:35
CIA-31ubiquity:  the initial partitioning page.11:35
CIA-31ubiquity: evand * r4596 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/plugins/ubi-partman.py):11:35
CIA-31ubiquity: * Properly substitute in the non-Ubuntu system when generating descriptions11:35
CIA-31ubiquity:  for dual boot partitioning.11:35
CIA-31partman-auto: evand * r603 ubuntu/ (automatically_partition/replace/do_option debian/changelog):11:36
CIA-31partman-auto: Disable swap partitions on the same disk before deleting the11:36
CIA-31partman-auto: partition in the replace option (LP: #740881).11:36
CIA-31partman-auto: evand * r604 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 93ubuntu1211:39
evof course that invoked the oom killer on swapoff for me in testing, but there's not much we can do there right now :-/11:40
ev(in natty, that is)11:40
* cjwatson tries to figure out the exact algorithm for parsing /proc/self/mountinfo, per bug 73834511:42
ubot2Launchpad bug 738345 in grub2 "Grub2 entries to boot Wubi incorrect... "Error: file not found, Press any key to continue" at boot" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73834511:42
cjwatsonI need to do something with the mnt_id and mnt_parent->mnt_id fields11:43
cjwatsonpreferably without actually having to build the full graph structure in GRUB11:43
* cjwatson takes the rare step of getting out some paper11:43
* ogra_ wonders if having no locales on the image at all might cause the breakage of his serial oem-config UI11:44
cjwatsonogra_: that's possible, you should really have at least en_US.UTF-811:45
ogra_i'll generate it and see if something changes11:45
cjwatson  * Run the debconf frontend in a UTF-8 locale (en_US.UTF-8, since d-i11:45
cjwatson    guarantees that that always exists) so that newt uses proper window11:45
cjwatson    borders and can display non-ASCII characters.11:45
* ogra_ verifies then11:46
cjwatsonOK, I think I can do this in a single linear pass11:51
ogra_that changed something but still looks broken11:55
* ogra_ tries with TERM=vt100 again11:59
ogra_hmm, still only a cursor when using vt10012:02
ogra_and the locale generation (and setting LANG everywhere) didnt really improve much, i have different broken chars for the frames now12:03
cjwatsonyour terminal may need to be running in a UTF-8 locale too12:03
ogra_well, i run it on ubuntu, minicom should pick up my default locale, no ?12:04
ogra_from gnome-terminal i mean12:04
ogra_ogra@isis:~$ env|grep ^LANG12:05
ogra_aha ... having en_US.UTF-8 generated locally too gets me a cursor (still broken frames though) even with TERM=xterm12:11
ogra_ah, crap, no, i had exported vt100 before12:12
evwow, I'm awful12:17
evpatch incoming for the replace issue12:17
evalso, is there a downside to using umount -f, or should we be using it everywhere?12:17
cjwatsonare you using NFS a lot?12:18
mterryev, cjwatson: how do I open a bug against geoname-lookup.ubuntu.com?12:19
evcjwatson: no, but every now and again partman seems to get caught up around the umount calls in replace/reuse12:19
evmterry: uhm, that's a good question12:19
evthere isn't a project for it12:19
evcreating now12:20
mterryev, I got a bug against indicator-datetime about searching for "san francisco"12:20
mterryev, and it seems to be a server issue12:20
cjwatsonmterry: I think I'd use RT12:20
evor that12:20
cjwatsonev: umount -f is only documented as helping with NFS.  Maybe umount -l instead?12:20
evI control the code, I think12:20
mterryev, so I come bug you on IRC then?  :)12:21
mterryev, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/74087412:21
ubot2Launchpad bug 740874 in indicator-datetime ""Location" auto-complete menu doesn't know about San Francisco, USA" [Undecided,New]12:21
evcjwatson: sure, lazy would work, presumably12:22
evmterry: digging12:24
evI'll make a proper project for that now12:28
mterryev, ok, I'll assign a couple bugs to it12:31
evmterry: cool12:34
evwe'll still have to bug IS to do pulls12:34
evas I don't believe I have access to that server12:35
mterryev, OK, targetted a couple to the project.  thanks12:36
evokay, I created a team and added you, so you should be able to commit directly12:40
evif you need to and you can't, let me know and I'll chase it down12:40
mterryk, thanks12:41
evI've also updated those two RTs to point at it12:46
CIA-31partman-auto: evand * r605 partman-auto.ubuntu/ (automatically_partition/replace/do_option debian/changelog):12:51
CIA-31partman-auto: * Make sure we have a partition selected for autopartitioning, not the12:51
CIA-31partman-auto:  disk, when using the replace option (LP: #738366).12:51
ogra_oh, screen works a lot better than minicom, intresting13:26
ogra_UTF-8 is still broken though, but i have colors and a cursor13:26
evnice, agy already pointed at the new branch location for geonames13:59
evsomeday we'll get a real layout engine in our UI toolkit... :-/14:00
mterryev, is geonames localized in any fashion?  always seems to give back english answers?14:05
evif memory serves, not exactly14:06
evwe're at the mercy of the data dump from geonames.org14:06
cjwatsonthat's what we want in the installer case, I think - localisation happens on the client side14:06
evlocalizing on the client side for the results of a search in the timezone box would be quite the endeavor as it returns more than olsendb locations14:08
mterryIt would be nice if we could just add the language in the query, right?  Like &lang=fr14:09
mterrythen get the same set of results, but with french names from the database14:10
evyeah, that would be nice, though we'd have to add tables or construct the database differently for that14:15
evI think14:16
* ev looks a bit harder rather than just guessing :-P14:16
mterryIt's definitely in the source data, but yeah, we might not be replicating it in the database14:20
evactually, one way of doing it would be to just to try to match against alternatenames and return that instead of name14:20
evit wouldn't ensure all the text was localized14:21
mterrywell, if we don't have a french translation for something, better to show english than nothing i'd say14:21
evbut if you searched for espana, you wouldn't get spain back14:21
mterryI think that would be fine, as long as you were in spanish locale14:22
evI don't think they're mapped to locales in the database14:23
evits a comma separated varchar(500)14:23
evalternatenames, that is14:23
evI know, lets just create a script that pipes it all through google translate once and tries to guess the language table to place it in ;)14:24
mterryev, the 3rd column in alternatenames seems to be a locale14:26
mterryor maybe that's just the country of the location?14:27
evI was looking at the column in geonames, not the table14:27
mterrythis data is whack.14:28
mterry120903  165131          Tell Sabaïne14:28
mterry120905  165131          Tall Şabayn14:28
mterry120904  165131          Tell Sanaïne14:28
mterrythose are presumably all the same place?  but different names?14:28
evoh yeah, it's all sorts of weird in places14:28
mterrythey have different locations though and no 3rd column14:28
cjwatsonev: oh, that kind of answer, OK14:43
cjwatsonI was thinking of timezone IDs14:43
cjwatsonargh, I fix one bit of Wubi and another mysteriously falls over16:05
* cjwatson plays whack-a-mole16:06
cjwatsondouble argh, now kvm is being mysteriously silent16:08
evwuh oh16:09
cjwatsonah, it was bug 73635116:13
ubot2Launchpad bug 736351 in vgabios "natty vgabios installs links into /usr/share/kvm" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73635116:13
cjwatsonI think.  Upgrading cleared it up, anyway16:14
CIA-31grub-installer: cjwatson * r1200 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.60ubuntu216:35
CIA-31localechooser: cjwatson * r160 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.34ubuntu316:37
CIA-31partman-auto: evand * r607 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 93ubuntu1316:38
CIA-31partman-auto-loop: cjwatson * r56 ubuntu/debian/ (changelog partman-auto-loop.templates po/templates.pot): Improve wording of partman-auto-loop/unclean_ntfs.16:42
CIA-31partman-auto-loop: cjwatson * r57 ubuntu/debian/po/templates.pot: fix Report-Msgid-Bugs-To16:49
CIA-31partman-auto-loop: cjwatson * r58 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 0ubuntu1916:50
bdmurrayev: is there a reason bug 740903 doesn't have a natty task?  I'm pretty sure that kate keeps an eye on the natty tasks so that wouldn't show up.17:16
ubot2Launchpad bug 740903 in ubiquity "return_to_partitioning fails when the replace option fails" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74090317:16
evbdmurray: done, thanks.17:17
bdmurrayev: thanks, I'd have been happy to do it - just wanted to make sure17:18
evany objections to a new ubiquity?17:20
bdmurraythat'd be good for the bug day fwiw17:22
CIA-31ubiquity: evand * r4598 trunk/ (139 files in 3 dirs): Update translations from Launchpad.17:36
evah, looks like I'm still blocked on builds/publisher anyway17:38
JemtHello. The ubuntu user on the Ubuntu Live CD (remastered) does not honor settings in /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.upower.policy (I disabled Suspend and Hibernation). However, it works for new users created on the Live CD. How can I solve the problem for the default ubuntu user ?19:24
Jemt(I ask in here since this seems to be the place were the actual Ubuntu developers/geeks are hanging out)19:25
CIA-31ubiquity: evand * r4599 trunk/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):20:15
CIA-31ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: console-setup20:15
CIA-31ubiquity: 1.57ubuntu17, grub-installer 1.60ubuntu2, localechooser 2.34ubuntu3,20:15
CIA-31ubiquity: partman-auto 93ubuntu13, partman-auto-loop 0ubuntu19.20:15
CIA-31ubiquity: evand * r4600 trunk/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.5.2820:54
CIA-31ubiquity: evand * r4601 trunk/ (debian/changelog po/LINGUAS): Remove cy from LINGUAS. Fixes build failure.21:14
* ev grumbles21:17
CIA-31ubiquity: evand * r4602 trunk/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.5.2921:22
evhm, it would be nice if the debconf protocol had a means to get the list of variables used for substitution22:09
evwell, worked around it for now by manually parsing templates.dat23:14
ev(want to be able to assert question_only_has_variables(question, variables=[]) in tests, in case the template changes once the tests are written)23:15
everr rather, I now do23:16

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