| cong06 | hey ebel! | 15:46 |
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| ebel | hello! | 15:47 |
| ebel | How are you? | 15:47 |
| cong06 | I'm good! | 15:47 |
| cong06 | you? | 15:48 |
| ebel | good good | 15:49 |
| ebel | playing with open source machine translation, apertium | 15:49 |
| ebel | http://www.apertium.org/ | 15:49 |
| ebel | You can translate things offline on the command line http://www.technomancy.org/language/apertium-command-line/ | 15:49 |
| cong06 | I'm not sure how I feel about the online interface... | 16:25 |
| cong06 | oh, I guess the commandline interface is quite a bit better though | 16:25 |
| cong06 | they don't have swahili... | 16:27 |
| ebel | yeah. | 16:35 |
| ebel | it's open source, so you have to make your own | 16:35 |
| ebel | it's from a spanish university, so it has loads of spanish languages | 16:36 |
| ebel | It doesn't have irish, our native language either. | 16:36 |
| cong06 | well, I'm tempted to start one for swahili, but I'm not sure I trust my swahili... | 16:40 |
| ebel | :D | 16:47 |
| ebel | hehehe | 16:47 |
| ebel | you're swahili not so good? | 16:47 |
| cong06 | not really :/ | 16:48 |
| ebel | well, better than nothing... | 16:49 |
| cong06 | yeah | 16:49 |
| ebel | My irish is also terrible. I'm going to try to work on the irish one | 16:49 |
| ebel | I'm a big believer in 'worse is better' | 16:51 |
| cong06 | than nothing? | 16:51 |
| ebel | http://www.jwz.org/doc/worse-is-better.html | 16:51 |
| ebel | cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worse_is_better | 16:51 |
| ebel | most 'it must be perfect' systems never deliver and are always under development | 16:51 |
| ebel | even linux was like that | 16:52 |
| ebel | it was initially "just for fun" and "nothing big and professional" | 16:52 |
| cong06 | I'm still reading the article (super slowly) | 16:55 |
| cong06 | but are you talking about this?: http://xkcd.com/844/ | 16:55 |
| ebel | hehehe | 16:57 |
| cong06 | ok. that makes sense. | 17:00 |
| cong06 | this would be a more "open source" alternative | 17:00 |
| cong06 | where the code needs to be readable so others can more easily edit it | 17:01 |
| ebel | well not really. | 17:05 |
| ebel | In closed source software, they still need to have readable code. | 17:05 |
| ebel | Since they have to maintain it. | 17:05 |
| cong06 | yeah. true. | 17:05 |
| ebel | However I believe that if you have something that's half working, there will be more volunteers, | 17:05 |
| cong06 | oooh, than if you have something that doesn't work at all | 17:06 |
| ebel | if you're paying people, you can tell them to work on the code/translation, so it doesn't matter if they aren't enthusiastic | 17:06 |
| cong06 | because some user wants to make it perfect | 17:06 |
| ebel | e.g., if there was a half done swahili translation, but there was a few mistakes, you'd probably be much more likely to submit a few patches to make it work. | 17:06 |
| cong06 | that's true. half the reason is I'm too lazy to figure out how to start the project >.< | 17:07 |
| ebel | hehehe | 17:08 |
| ebel | yeah apertium has some bad documentation. Lots of hunting around :) | 17:08 |
| cong06 | I'm rather confused by his discussion at the end (http://www.jwz.org/doc/worse-is-better.html) about C++... | 17:13 |
| cong06 | on one hand he's arguing for worse-is-better using C++ as an example | 17:13 |
| cong06 | on the other he's saying that C++ sucks. | 17:13 |
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