[00:00] <Jordan_U> Gil: Yes, though I would move it rather than cp'ing it so that you are less likely to make the same mistake in the future :)
[00:00] <Gil> Jordan_U that was *my* mistake? Didn't it automagically get created? :)
[00:01] <Jordan_U> jt13: Did you run grub-install / grub-mkconfig from within the chroot?
[00:02] <pyrophelia> what command will force an IP change without restarting?  I've updated my interfaces file but ifconfig eth0 down|up keeps the old IP
[00:03] <jt13> Jordan_U,  I mounted my /dev/sda3 "the one that says linux" i mounted the /proc and /sys as instructed and sudo apt-get installe grub-pc when I attempt the mkconfig I get the error.
[00:03] <Jordan_U> jt13: Did you run "sudo chroot /mnt/"?
[00:04] <kunal> hi all
[00:04] <macrocat> does anyone else have any ideas what might be wrong?
[00:04] <jt13> it never instructed on that so no
[00:04] <kunal> any one want to chat??
[00:05] <phoenixsampras> how to install skype via ubuntu software center?? HELP!!!
[00:05] <Jordan_U> jt13: What guide are you following?
[00:05] <kunal> any1 has made a linux web server??
[00:05] <pyrophelia> i'm fairly certian most of the people in this room have made "web servers"
[00:05] <Neroon> hi everyone
[00:06] <kunal> okay
[00:06] <itaylor57> phoenixsampras: enter skype in the search and install
[00:06] <vladimirov> How I can get to a DDOS channel?
[00:06] <Jordan_U> !pm | jt13
[00:06] <kunal> using ubuntu or xubuntu
[00:06] <ohzie> vladimirov: Well you can start by calling the FBI
[00:06] <vladimirov> Jajajaja
[00:06] <jt13> see pm
[00:06] <kunal> hi pyrophelia
[00:06] <jt13> Jordan_U,  see pm it is the ne you sent
[00:07] <bp0> how long until firefox 4 update?
[00:07] <jt13> Jordan_U,  anyway. I am following the link you posted. and nowhere does it say to chroot
[00:07] <itaylor57> !ff4 | bp0
[00:07] <Neroon> anyone here could give some tips regarding a new wlan router (winxp works, ubuntu doesnt,)?
[00:07] <Jordan_U> jt13: And if you read the link (and what you PMd me) you will see: Your system should be ready to be chroot'd into, sudo chroot /mnt
[00:08] <vladimirov> How I can get to a DDOS channel?
[00:08] <phoenixsampras> itaylor57: i did that, but its not showing up, what do i need to enable??
[00:08] <vladimirov> Well, thanks anyway
[00:08] <pyrophelia> vladimirov: join #nambla
[00:08] <macrocat> ha ha, what was that about
[00:08] <pyrophelia> i'm sure they'll help yp
[00:09] <pyrophelia> so what's the command to update an IP in interfaces?  ifconfig eth1 down|up keeps the old one :/
[00:09] <pyrophelia> I keep forgetting
[00:10] <phoenixsampras> itaylor57:  Help!!
[00:10] <th0r> pyrophelia: restart dhclient?
[00:11] <jt13> Jordan_U,  Ok i don't know how i missed that. HOWEVER. after chrooting i still get the error  "sudo: unable to reslove host ubuntu/usr/sbin/grub-prob: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?)
[00:11] <pyrophelia> th0r it's not a dhcp ip
[00:11] <pyrophelia> th0r: static, but I swtiched subnets
[00:12] <kunal> how to manage remote web server, which can auto-start file-zilla client at start up??
[00:12] <Jordan_U> jt13: The commands after "sudo chroot /mnt/" need to be run in the same terminal. Follow the guide carefully and it will work.
[00:12] <phoenixsampras> how to install skype via ubuntu software center?? HELP!!! SOSSS
[00:12] <th0r> pyrophelia: well, you can use ifconfig to force the new ip. And if the interface is configured properly it should pick up the new ip at reboot
[00:13] <aeon-ltd> phoenixsampras: search and install it
[00:13] <pyrophelia> th0r: I can't reboot this system.  and i've used ifconfig to try to change it but setting the interface down then brining it back up keeps the old information
[00:13] <Neroon> need some ideas regarding a new wlan router (can't connect with ubuntu, winxp works)
[00:13] <itaylor57> phoenixsampras: what do you get when you type which skype in terminal?
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: did you think to check the skype website....
[00:14] <clarezoe> I have a problem with gimp, I hope anyone can help, there is no one in the gimp channel :(  I cannot set the color to white, instead it's greenish. Really annoying, I deleted the .gimp.2.7 folder to reset all the setting, still the same problem. I don't really know how to search for this problem.
[00:14] <pyrophelia> th0r: ifconfig doesn't read /etc/network/interfaces.  there is another command that does but I can't remember it
[00:14] <th0r> pyrophelia: then the interface isn;t configured properly. Been a long time, but it used to be stored in /etc/network/ if I remember correctly
[00:14] <pyrophelia> kunal: you mean ftp server?  filezilla would be pretty useless on port 80
[00:14] <exutux> pyrophelia: ifup ifdown
[00:15] <pyrophelia> exutux: almost positive I tried that, but I got some weird message x "package is not installed"
[00:15] <pyrophelia> let me check again
[00:15] <pyrophelia> th0r: it is, i've used this config many times
[00:15] <th0r> pyrophelia: ifconfig doesn't read that file, but you can use it to force an ip from the command line
[00:15] <pyrophelia> ah I see what you mean
[00:18] <Neroon> clarezoe: don't know if i might be able to help. but is "imeage -> mode -> rgp set?
[00:18] <adiman> hi...just want to ask..how to install free games to ubntu
[00:18] <clarezoe> Neroon, thanks but the mode is set to rgb
[00:18] <th0r> adiman: either software centre or synaptic
[00:19] <clarezoe> and the drawing brush and eraser don't work either
[00:19] <snozberry> @adiman you can use the software center to browse by category in the later ubuntu editions and select games
[00:19] <Neroon> clarezoe: and any other color is just fine? is it a new image or do you edit an existing one?
[00:19] <Neroon> clarezoe: hm ...
[00:19] <fishscene> Is there an Ubuntu LTSP channel?
[00:20] <adiman> whre can i find the software centre or synaptic?
[00:20] <clarezoe> Neroon, I'm adding a white text with a black background, it is a new image
[00:20] <YankDownUnder> SYSTEM => ADMINISTRATION => SYNAPTIC PACKAGE MANAGER
[00:21] <clarezoe> Neroon, I tried also draw something on an existing image, nothing happens, but when I quit, it asks to save changes.
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> adiman: software centre is at the bottom of the applications menu
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> fishscene: this is the place for ALL ubuntu issues
[00:22] <Neroon> clarezoe: strange. so no matter what image you open and try to edit, it doesnt do anything but aks for a save due to changes?
[00:22] <fishscene> Actually, I just realized my question was better suited for ubuntu-server since my LTSP question is more server-related than single-client. Thank you though. :)
[00:23] <YankDownUnder> fishscene, #ubuntu-server
[00:23] <adiman> ok.. i got it.thanks U..
[00:23] <fishscene> correct.
[00:23] <tripelb> I have a question. So I switched user into my guest account to check that it worked, Ub10.04 - then I chose log out... and the screen went blank. I had to hardboot AFAIK to get a "living breathing system" up.  What did I do? I wanted to log that user out and go back to "me". Could I have recovered? I had no cursor, no anything. Please advise, sincerely, A_User
[00:23] <clarezoe> Neroon, exactly, but I do can add text to the image, but the color is strange, always has some green in it
[00:23] <smiley7> hey guys,how do you add the shutdown menu to the Main Gnome menu ?
[00:24] <YankDownUnder> tripelb, Sounds like a graphics driver & GDM issue mate....
[00:24] <icewaterman> ActionParsnip: i dont know what exactly changed, but my sound issue disappeared. its not any change to alsa-base.conf etc.
[00:24] <fishscene> smiley7: system > Preferences > Main Menu. You can make a shut down command
[00:25] <smiley7> whats the command ?
[00:25] <clarezoe> Neroon, http://paste.ubuntu.com/584054/ this is the output from the console, but I don't think it's relevant to gimp
[00:25] <fishscene> smiley7: usually "sudo shutdown now" (For immediate shutting down)
[00:25] <icewaterman> ActionParsnip: thx for help, sorry i cannot tell what really fixed the problem, since i've undone every change i made (and rebooted afterwards9
[00:26] <mickster04> smiley7: remove the button from the top right of your panel?
[00:26] <tripelb> YankDownUnder, what's gdm?  I've been using this for months and months. This is the only problem I have, signing out of the guest account. I can leave it going (as I have) and it's fine. So that kind of doesnt sound like a graphics driver to me. If so tlel me how you figure it. Thanks
[00:26] <tripelb> tell
[00:26] <smiley7> no i am moveing the menu to the bottom
[00:27]  * tripelb thinks GDM (gol darn machine)
[00:27] <tripelb> smiley7, I like my menu on the top. (like so?)
[00:27] <smiley7> i need the shutdown menu on the Main Gnome menu...
[00:27] <smiley7> i have the menu at the top....
[00:27] <mickster04> smiley7: well if you remove it from the panel it will move itself to the main menu?
[00:27] <smiley7> i am moveing it
[00:27] <meek> hey everyone
[00:28] <tripelb> hey meek
[00:28] <meek> i have a smiple question
[00:28] <meek> havent been here in a while
[00:28] <Neroon> clarezoe: really strange. and it worked before?
[00:28] <smiley7> i want a layout like the one in Linux Mint
[00:28] <tripelb> meek just ask as your first statement, or someone will sic ubottu on you.
[00:28] <mickster04> smiley7: yeah? so move the menu tp the bottom? problem solved?
[00:28] <clarezoe> Neroon, I think so. I don't use it really often though.
[00:28] <meek> so here goes........just upgraded my PC, want to go to 64 bit,  i got 10.10 and win7 64 ready to go......
[00:28] <meek> but my grub is all weird
[00:29] <smiley7> I want to put the Shutdown Buttion on the Main Menu
[00:29] <mickster04> smiley7: and at the moment where is it?
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> meek: whats weird about it?
[00:29] <meek> i had problems before cuase i had ubuntu then xp on top..i forget exatly what i did, but now when i boot i have 10 sec to press esc or it boots to win
[00:29] <smiley7> its at the default place..
[00:29] <meek> and theres a win then linux and like 8 ubuntus to choose from in the grub
[00:29] <mickster04> smiley7: so top right?
[00:30] <meek> but basicaly its not letting me boot from disk
[00:30] <smiley7> Correct
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> meek: can you pastebin /etc/default/grub    please
[00:30] <mickster04> smiley7: you can right click, remove, or just right click, move
[00:30] <meek> im in xp now
[00:30] <meek> should i move to linux?
[00:30] <meek> and come back?
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> meek: you can get rid of the kernel options by uninstalling the older kernel versions
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> meek: sure
[00:30] <smiley7> Move is greyed Out
[00:30] <meek> ok
[00:31] <tiago__> i wanted to install my audio driven
[00:31] <clarezoe> Neroon, I reinstalled gimp, now I can draw and white color works, but not with white text
[00:31] <giiker> hi everyone, has anybody has any succes  running firefox in a ramdisk, otherwise any pointers?
[00:32] <mickster04> smiley7: uncheck lock to panel
[00:33] <smiley7> there is no way to put it on the Main Menu...
[00:33] <_antant> is it possible to dmesg straight to pastebin?
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> _antant: sure, run:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit; dmesg | pastebinit
[00:34] <_antant> awesome, cheers
[00:34] <_antant> Got my card working!
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> giiker: i have the cache of my chromium running to a ramdisk
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> _antant: sweet *bg*
[00:34] <tbehar> Good idea pastebinit
[00:35] <_antant> pastebinit is a great idea
[00:35] <ferlicjl> I'm having trouble connecting to the internet with Ubuntu if someone could help...
[00:36] <meek> ok
[00:36] <pawel__> yo
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> _antant: you can also grep / sed the output then finally pipe to pastebinit ;)
[00:36] <meek> so that didnt go to well, i just got a new graphics card and dont have the driver on ubuntu yet and cannot get a display
[00:36] <netech> sshd_config contains PermitRootLogin forced-commands-only and PermitTunnel pointopoint; however, I'm still prompted for the root password even though I've exchanged rsa keys and prepended the command to the beginning of the key in /root/.ssh/authorized_keys
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> meek: what graphics chip?
[00:36] <mickster04> smiley7: when you mean main menu do you mean as part of it? because try right click > remove from panel
[00:37] <meek> ati hd 5750
[00:37] <smiley7> I want to have all shutdown Options in The Main Gnome Menu...like it has in linux Mint
[00:37] <meek> i know nivida is better with linux from what i heard, but thats why i dual boot xp
[00:37] <mickster04> smiley7: on the shutdown button that is
[00:37] <francesc1> nvidia is a lot better with linux
[00:37] <mickster04> smiley7: remove the shutdown button from the panel then
[00:38] <Starminn> smiley7: Get GnoMenu
[00:38] <francesc1> if u use their drivers
[00:38] <meek> yea do i hear, hows ubuntu 10.10 with hdmi..any problems?
[00:38] <francesc1> meek: i have no problems
[00:38] <coz_> meek,  yes there have been reported issues,,,,ati card?
[00:38] <meek> yea ati card
[00:39] <francesc1> meek: oooo ati ?
[00:39] <lasha> hello guys I need a little bit of help :\ I need to upgrade my firefox to the 4.0 version, they only offer compressed file as an installation resources but I dont know how to install it :\ can anyone help ?
[00:39] <meek> oh boy i cant wait, i knen what i was getting my slef in to
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> lasha: use the mozilla ppa
[00:39] <Jordan_U> !fx4 | lasha
[00:39] <coz_> meek,  ok  there are two ways of dealing with this however,, for a better explanation you might want to go to #radeon channel and ask that is where I got the info for my one client with the same issue,,,it is an overscan issue
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> meek: what was the last chip you had (I believe you said you had upgraded)
[00:39] <meek> how can i get rid of grub from xp, its not giveing me the option to boot from cd
[00:39] <lasha> nice ubottu :D
[00:40] <meek> thanks coz_
[00:40] <coz_> meek,  it can be dealt with either with settings on the tv  or with xrandr command I believe
[00:40] <lasha> thank you guys
[00:40] <coz_> meek,  probably better with tv settings but check with them for details :)
[00:40] <meek> i have a hdmi monit, it has pci aswell
[00:40] <coz_> meek,  ah
[00:41] <coz_> meek,  mm well check there any way  #radeon
[00:41] <meek> ty coz
[00:41] <coz_> meek,  no problem
[00:41] <meek> actionparsnip. i had some other ati card that was in my motherboard
[00:41] <coz_> meek,  you know to switch channels  ....yes?
[00:42] <meek> yea but i have bigger problems
[00:42] <meek> first
[00:42] <coz_> meek,  ok ok :)
[00:42] <meek> need to wipe my pc and install 64 bit, but i cant seem to get the optoin to boot
[00:42] <meek> from cd
[00:42] <macrocat> anyone know why my microphone isn't working? I tried alsamixer but everything seems to be on full blast
[00:42] <coz_> meek,  on the 64 bit live cd you mean?
[00:42] <meek> my grub is very werid. and im just trying to fresh install with windows 7 first
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> meek: did you disable the onboard ati in the bios?
[00:43] <coz_> meek,  are you going with a fresh install of windows7 as well?
[00:43] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: there is already a factoid for ff4
[00:43] <meek> yea i have the 10 10 64 bit as well but i dont have the option to install from cd,
[00:43] <meek> yea fresh all around
[00:43] <lasha> ActionParsnip: will it delete old firefox by itself right ?
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: cool, just saw someone ask and nobody fired it so figured it was lacking
[00:43] <meek> no i dndt disable but im sure the new card diabled it
[00:43] <IdleOne> !ff4
[00:43] <coz_> meek,   you could download Dban  for wiping the drive real clean
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> lasha: it will upgrade the old to the new
[00:43] <Netizen1993> Hi all.. got a small situation...
[00:44] <meek> would i have to install my bios again?
[00:44] <lasha> ActionParsnip: ok thank you :)
[00:44] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: similar to your request if you feel it needs improving I'll edit it.
[00:44] <coz_> meek,   but if the cd is not showing boot from cd  when you see the little keyboard logo at the bottom of the live cd ,,, hit enter,,, it should give a choice
[00:44] <Netizen1993> Ubuntu is installing, on my system fine.. however it's detecting and using a software raid.. which I don't want it to do.
[00:44] <Netizen1993> is there anyway I can disable it?
[00:44] <meek> i cant boot into linux right now becuase of the grapihics issue, thats why im trying to reslove thru windows
[00:44] <sevith> throw it at the wall
[00:44] <sevith> teach it a lesson
[00:44] <Netizen1993> or pass some option during install not to activate it?
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> lasha: or you can use the daily build and you will get a seperate browser, but remove the ppa after installing the browser or it will upgrade 3.6.whatever to the daily as well
[00:45] <kad__> heys!! if route is mark  as 16 in RIP it enter the: Invalid time!! the Holddown time will start from here so if it receive better metric route, it will be valid again before the flush time? am i right ... thanks
[00:45] <coz_> meek,  ah mmm  then you will have to set the tv  settings although I know in windows this may not be an issue
[00:45] <lasha> ActionParsnip: ok I think it already installed successfully though
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: seems fine, possibly could add the daily build which installs a seperate firefox (I hate firefox)
[00:45] <kad__> sorry wrong channel
[00:46] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: daily build would be a little to buggy maybe to have new users install
[00:46] <itaylor57> ActionParsnip: I was wondering what the fuss today was about ff4, using chromium I forgot about ff
[00:46] <meek> coz_ is there anyway to get rid of grub  from windows?
[00:46] <coz_> I hate firefox 4
[00:46] <smiley7> ok,i installed Gnomenu ...but i dont see in on the menu...
[00:46] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: rather stick to stable but you can run it by other ops and see what they think
[00:47] <francesc1> meek: grub isnt part of windows
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: true but it has the advantage of leaving the old one. I guess its not hard to rmove the ppa then reinstall browser
[00:47] <pcpower> meek: fixboot/fixmbr ?
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> itaylor57: same :D
[00:47] <francesc1> pcpower: u are right
[00:47] <meek> or is there a simple way to install from a cd
[00:47] <coz_> meek,   ah well possibly but not sure    you may get more info on the #grub channel  perhaps... I dual boot here as well... separate drives not separate partitions...
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> itaylor57: daily build ppa here. Its spiffy
[00:47] <francesc1> meek: you have to repair the mbr
[00:47] <sevith> i duel boot sep partitions
[00:47] <coz_> meek,  simple way to install grub from live cd you mean?
[00:47] <sevith> What did you do meek?
[00:47] <giiker> ActionParsnip: can you tell me how can I do that in Chromiun 'cause I haven't found anything, only  found steps for Firefox...
[00:48] <gorfex> @meek: download easyBCD for windows, and write new windows MB
[00:48] <gorfex> MBR
[00:48] <meek> im trying to fresh install everything to 64 bit, but grub doesnt give me the option to boot from cd or anything, and i cant get into unbutu right no
[00:48] <sevith> So when you boot
[00:48] <francesc1> grub wont to that for you... you need to acess the bboot menu before grub
[00:48] <sevith> your given a grub shell?
[00:48] <coz_> meek,  I am not sure I understand why the live cd is not giving option to boot from it
[00:49] <coz_> meek,  do you see a keyboard logo when you boot from cd?
[00:49] <coz_> meek,  at the bottom of the screen?
[00:49] <meek> it boots bios then grub ..well i have 10 sec to press esc to bring up grub otherwise it boots xp
[00:49] <gorfex> the boot from cd option is usually given by your BIOS.. or am i wrong?
[00:49] <francesc1> gorfex: you are 100% correct
[00:49] <coz_> meek,  then check in the bios if the cdrom is first boot device
[00:50] <meek> cdrom is boot first
[00:50] <meek> just not working
[00:50] <coz_> meek,   mmm
[00:50] <francesc1> meek: what type of computer is it
[00:50] <meek> custom
[00:50] <coz_> meek,  go back into the bios,,,switch around boot devices and then switch it back and save
[00:51] <francesc1> meek: so u want to install 64 bit on it... is it compatible
[00:51] <coz_> francesc1,  ah good thinking :)
[00:51] <meek> yea it is
[00:51] <coz_> meek,  are you on windows or linux right now
[00:51] <meek> im on windows
[00:51] <meek> but i think im just a dumbass
[00:51] <giiker> ActionParsnip: do you have any link on how to run Chromiun in ramdisk?
[00:51] <francesc1> meek: it be helpful if u could give us some specs
[00:51] <meek> ive been haveing problems burning iso, and it seems the disc is just corrupt
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> giiker: http://www.linuxreaders.com/2011/01/11/firefox-chrome-cache-on-ram-drive-fedora-ubuntu/    use the edit to /etc/default/grub
[00:52] <meek> ill send my dxdiag
[00:52] <francesc1> meek: can u boot usb???
[00:52] <meek> yea i think im gonna try that next
[00:52] <Neroon> anyone here could got some tips regarding a new wlan router (winxp works, ubuntu doesnt)?
[00:52] <francesc1> use untebootin
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> Neroon: the router is moot
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> Neroon: its the wifi adapter you need to worry about
[00:52] <fishscene> Neroon: The problem is most likely with the driver on your computer under Ubuntu
[00:53] <giiker> ActionParsnip: thanx, I will read it now!
[00:53] <Neroon> ActionParsnip: All i can you is, the thing worked with the old router
[00:53] <meek> http://pastebin.com/expCEuk1
[00:53] <Neroon> ActionParsnip: +tell
[00:53] <meek> thats my dxdaig if that helps atall
[00:53] <meek> do you think i can run 64
[00:53] <coz_> meek,  I am concerned that the cdrom is not being picked up as first boot device... have you checked for bios updates for that motherboard now that you are on windows?
[00:53] <Neroon> fishscene: nope, can't be. worked with the old router (got exchanged)
[00:54] <fishscene> Neroon: But it works when you boot to XP?
[00:54] <smiley7> i installed GnoMenu...but everything is still the same
[00:54] <francesc1> meek: i really think its just ur cd
[00:54] <meek> yea everything is up to date, just built this like 2 months ago
[00:54] <francesc1> meek: try booting from a usb
[00:54] <meek> yea me to francsec, im doing usb now
[00:54] <Neroon> fishscene: it did (not at that laptop, since it was 2 hours ago at a friend
[00:54] <meek> ill let you guys know how it goes
[00:54] <meek> thanks for the help
[00:54] <francesc1> meek: i am sure that s the prob
[00:54] <guedesav> terry, I did apt-get upgrade
[00:55] <coz_> meek,   its apparenlty a 64 bit compatible system
[00:55] <francesc1> meek: i had the same prob with my live cd... now i just use usbs
[00:55] <francesc1> coz_: yea it is ...
[00:55] <guedesav> Now it's worse: it not only doesn't detect my input devices, it stopped working with my wireless card. Any further suggestions?
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> Neroon: then you need to associate with the new. Routers use strong standards set by the ISO foundation. If it doesn't then it isn't a router
[00:55] <francesc1> coz_: thats why i am thinking its the actual media
[00:55] <fishscene> Neroon: Unless the router is configured wrong or somehow corrupted, the problem is still most likely on the computer-side.
[00:55] <charlesno> Hi, I am running 9.10, and today Rhythmbox stopped working. I click the icon and nothing happens. I've tried removing and re-installing to no avail.
[00:55] <ozatomic> on my hardy install apt installed php5.2 how can i get 5.3?
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> Neroon: maybe you need to configure the router some
[00:55] <Neroon> fishscene: and the weird thing is, 2 laptops didn't work anymore (both ubuntu, one kde, one xfce)
[00:55] <coz_> francesc1,  most likely
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> charlesno: run it from a terminal, the output may give clues
[00:56] <coz_> meek,  you could also try the minimal install cd  only  megs  very little chance of download corruption or even burn coruption
[00:56] <francesc1> coz_:  weill i ll guess we will have to wait and see :p
[00:56] <charlesno> do i just type "rhythmbox" in terminal?
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> charlesno: i suggest you upgrade soon, Karmic support ends next month
[00:56] <coz_> meek,  only 12  megs rather
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> charlesno: yes
[00:56] <fishscene> Neroon: Are you able to access the router configuration page?
[00:56] <Neroon> ActionParsnip: The prob is with 2 Ubuntu Laptops (one kde, one xfce)
[00:56] <Neroon> fishscene: well not now, but yes
[00:56] <charlesno> ActionP
[00:56] <charlesno> one moment, testing
[00:56] <coz_> ok too many cooks... I think I will break here :)
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> Neroon: can you access the config page like fishscene asked? Can you ping the internal IP? Can you connect to the SSID? Can you ping 8.8.8.8? Can you ping wwww.bbc.co.uk?
[00:57] <pytho> Hi guys, I've been trying to install ubuntu on my old laptop for awhile now. I'm running on a IBM thinkpad a20m, a really old version. The thing is, I can't get into the bios menu without a password. The startup screen runs, then it flashes to a black screen that says time and date error, and then it flashes to another black screen with just a lock and a cursor in the upper lefthand corner.. It won't even let me into the biso menu. I t
[00:57] <pytho> of mine told me to try), but I didn't see the silver coin that it's apparently supposed to look like. Does anyone have any ideas on how to get this working? I'd really appreciate it!
[00:57] <meek> thanks coz, im gonna go the usb route, i think my cdrom is dieing on me anyways
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> pytho: use F11 or F12 and you will then be able to choose the boot media
[00:58] <charlesno> ActionParsnip: After typing in terminal, the window pops up but it is frozen. Terminal tells me the following: ** (rhythmbox:3888): CRITICAL **: atk_object_set_name: assertion `name != NULL' failed
[00:58] <charlesno> ** (rhythmbox:3888): CRITICAL **: atk_object_set_name: assertion `name != NULL' failed
[00:58] <charlesno> WARNING: Unhandled message: interface=org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable, path=/, member=Introspect
[00:58] <Neroon> ActionParsnip: i cant right now. I'll have a shot at it tomorrow again. But i doubt pinging works, since it doesn't even connect to the router (both laptops)
[00:58] <pytho> Yes, I've tried all the f1-f12 keys but they all give the same result
[00:58] <pytho> It never takes me to the bios menu
[00:58] <Neroon> ActionParsnip: Just looking for some new ideas, since I'm out of it ....
[00:59] <JoseeAntonioR> Does anyone knows how to track an CD order?
[00:59] <b1lly> is there a good online doc. or beginners guide for ubuntu
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> pytho: I suggest you run Lubuntu on it, or something lighter like puppy or xpud
[00:59] <guedesav> So, apparently the other person who tried to help me is ignoring me. Well, here's a question: if I do dist-upgrade using the repository of an older distro, will it downgrade my Ubuntu instead of upgrading? Right now I need to revert the upgrade I did in my system, and that'd help a lot
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> !manual | b1lly
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> Neroon: try those tests, see how you go
[01:00] <b1lly> ActionParsnip: a little more advanced plz
[01:00] <SpitfireWP> That's what she said
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> b1lly: have you read that one?
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> SpitfireWP: zing!
[01:00] <pytho> I'm afraid I'd get the same results.
[01:00] <pytho> :(
[01:00] <b1lly> ActionParsnip: is this gunna tell me about cmd line
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> b1lly: a little
[01:01] <IdleOne> !cli | b1lly
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> b1lly: its easier if you think about what you want to achieve then search the web for that in mind, there will not likely be a single manual for all the command line commands in all of linux as it would be humungous, you can also read the man pages for your chosen command
[01:02] <b1lly> what if i wanted to learn how it works cause im eventaully interested in hosting servers and shit
[01:02] <itaylor57> ActionParsnip: Well I added daily build ppa :>)
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> itaylor57: daily love
[01:02] <Neroon> ActionParsnip: only thing i really found strange, was one of the laptops (xfce) kept asking the pwd for the router. And yes, I had the right pwd and it was the matching router
[01:02] <IdleOne> b1lly: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal will get you started
[01:03] <JoseeAntonioR> Hey, does anyone knows how to track an free CD order>?
[01:03] <guampa> question: how do i lock a package *with apt-get* so it won't get updated? also: local pkgs (debs installed with dpkg -i) aren't automatically updated anymore don't they?
[01:03] <babytxina> hi
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> Neroon: are there any restrictions in place in the router (mac filters and such)
[01:03] <IdleOne> !pinning | guampa
[01:03] <guampa> *do they
[01:03] <babytxina> who can speak korean here?
[01:03] <The_Rufus> doing install of Ubuntu Server and I can't select bootable for a partition, any good reasons why?
[01:03] <guampa> thanks IdleOne
[01:03] <guampa> as to the second q?
[01:04] <Neroon> ActionParsnip: I thought about that as well, but then it wouldn't have worked on one of the laptops (booting into xp)
[01:04] <th0r> babytxina: this channel is english only
[01:04] <IdleOne> guampa: umm not sure if packages installed with dpkg -i are auto updated
[01:04] <at-bunt> The_Rufus is it a primary partition?
[01:05] <bsnh0x> hey people
[01:05] <The_Rufus> it is primary
[01:05] <Neroon> ActionParsnip: It didn't even change anything, whether i tried fixed ip, nor dhcp.
[01:05] <Logan_> !ko > babytxina
[01:06] <Neroon> ActionParsnip: And one kept asking the pwd on and on (and i entered the same as in xp)
[01:06] <giiker> ActionParsnip: thanx a lot for the help!!
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> giiker: np man
[01:09] <sevith> How can i get the memory location of a binary file on my system?
[01:09] <sevith> suchas? shell?
[01:11] <The_Rufus> ok, I have SCSI11, Primary 4.1Gb ext4 mounted as /boot (but I can't mark the partition as active for some reason) then 5 drives with one partition each marked 2.0TB "K" "raid" which I want to set as one big / partition
[01:11] <gorfex> sevith: systemmonitor-> select your process -> rightclick on it -> select memoryfields
[01:11] <KittenKoder> Any devs in here?
[01:12] <Logan_> !anyone | KittenKoder
[01:12] <KittenKoder> >.> Not a question.  A gripe.
[01:13] <Logan_> KittenKoder: Why not say your next gripe (the real one) and find out? ;)
[01:13] <KittenKoder> Ubuntu is trying too hard to become "user friendly" and is looking too much like Windoze every new version.
[01:13] <KittenKoder> Too much is just too much.
[01:14] <Logan_> !ot | KittenKoder
[01:14] <KittenKoder> TY
[01:15] <KittenKoder> Thus why I asked and said it was a gripe. ;)
[01:15] <Neroon> ActionParsnip: Thanks for trying to helü
[01:15] <Neroon> ActionParsnip: help :-)
[01:18] <sevith> gorfex, You fucking rock.
[01:18] <IdleOne> !language | sevith
[01:21] <jrmcm> I need some help getting the 9 key number pad to work. Num lock is on but im still getting the same actions as if it were off.
[01:22] <macrocat> jrmcm, is it moving the cursor when you hold one of the ones with an arrow key?
[01:22] <jrmcm> yes
[01:22] <TommyC> Hiya. A while back I had to install sendmail on one of our servers. I tried using apt-get install sendmail to install it, but got a message saying couldn't find sendmail. So I downloaded the tar file from sendmail's website. Anyway, earlier my boss asked me to remove it completely, and so I tried apt-get remove sendmail (I forgot the apt-get install didn't work), and that didn't work. Is there
[01:22] <TommyC> another way to uninstall applications from Ubuntu? Or do I have to "locate sendmail" and delete the files and folders it finds? Thanks in advance for all your help.
[01:22] <macrocat> jrmcm, system>preferences>mouse
[01:23] <macrocat> i think
[01:23] <pk> Hello, Im looking for help installing minecraft. Im having an issue with my drivers.
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> TommyC: if you used the tar file you will need to manually remove it
[01:23] <chris_allen> need help with php 5.2.4 install
[01:24] <chris_allen> can anyone help?
[01:24] <macrocat> ah no
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> chris_allen: what version is installed?
[01:24] <macrocat> jrmcm, system>preferences>keyboard
[01:24] <TommyC> ActionParsnip: That is what I thought. Any particular way I should go about doing it?
[01:24] <macrocat> jrmcm, mouse keys tab
[01:24] <chris_allen> if id go sudo apt-get install it installs 5.3.3
[01:24] <chris_allen> but I need 5.2.4
[01:24] <macrocat> jrmcm, deselect the option there
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> TommyC: I'd redownload the file and then you will know what to go at
[01:24] <macrocat> oh, sorry i kept beeping you :<
[01:24] <TommyC> All right, thanks.
[01:24] <jrmcm> macrocat: thx it seems to be working now. :)
[01:25] <macrocat> jrmcm, np
[01:25] <macrocat> i had the same problem :D
[01:25] <jrmcm> lol
[01:25] <Starminn> chris_allen: From the ##php channel on their topic, "PHP 5.2 is EOL" just be aware of that.
[01:26] <macrocat> well, i've managed to get my microphone to work, kind of. instead of using the input from the mic in, say, audacity, it's playing the input through my speakers
[01:26] <macrocat> any ideas?
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> chris_allen: what is the output of:  lsb_release -d
[01:26] <chris_allen> that is fine...I still need it...i tried sudo apt-get install php = 5.2.4 but this did not work
[01:27] <chris_allen> ubuntu 10.10
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> !info php
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> chris_allen: what package name are you installing?
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> chris_allen: sure it's not php5 ?
[01:28] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: php5
[01:28] <chris_allen> i'll try that php5 one sec
[01:28] <Starminn> That's the package name for plain old php. Not sure what version.
[01:28] <chris_allen> !info.php gives event not found..one sec
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> !info php5
[01:28] <yssa> hello everybody, how can I install gnome 3 on Ubuntu 10.04 the day it is out?
[01:29] <yssa> through the repos?
[01:29] <chris_allen> unable to locate package for php5 = 5.2.4
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> chris_allen: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nginx/php5; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y install php5
[01:30] <chris_allen> Action: what is that command for?
[01:31] <chris_allen> will it get me 5.2.4
[01:31] <chris_allen> ?
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> chris_allen: it'll give a later version of php5 which should satisfy your dep
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> chris_allen: 5.3.5
[01:32] <szymon_g> hi
[01:32] <chris_allen> I need 5.2.4
[01:33] <macrocat> anybody got any ideas?
[01:33] <chris_allen> Action: can you help me get 5.2.4?
[01:34] <xangua> chris_allen: download it and compile it¿
[01:34] <gangaram> hello peeps, i am getting "mcrypt which is a virtual package"
[01:34] <chris_allen> xangua:  it should have binaries available
[01:34] <gangaram> does anyone know what that means i can get to install into the build root
[01:34] <arbir1> how can i boot from sdc ? i added two more drives and they are now listed as sda and sdb
[01:35] <chris_allen> I need help getting a specefic version of php 5, php 5.2.4.  Does any one know how to do this?
[01:35] <gangaram> chris_allen, join the club
[01:35] <gangaram> i am building one and going mental so far
[01:35] <gangaram> 5.2.17 is however availabile in karmic
[01:36] <chris_allen> gangaram: so you think it is not available?
[01:36] <chris_allen> how do you find this info out?
[01:36] <chris_allen> i.e. what is available in binary?
[01:36] <chris_allen> where is the list?
[01:36] <chris_allen> or do i have to google the rest of my life?
[01:37] <lasha> just tested firefox 4 and whoever doesnt have it should get it
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | chris_allen
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> lasha: I'll stick with chromium daily with my tweaks, its faster here
[01:38] <chris_allen> Action: how do i find out what is available in the official ubuntu libs?
[01:38] <macrocat> can anyone help me? when i unmute my mic/front mic in alsamixer, instead of the mic input going to, say, audacity, it plays through my speakers
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> chris_allen: the official ubuntu repos can be searched in software centre
[01:39] <yofel> chris_allen: the only release that had php5 5.2.4 was hardy heron, you could try to install that by adding the hardy sources. That's not supported though and I have no idea if those packages will install
[01:39] <andrezero> http://twitterparty.mozilla.org/
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> !ot | andrezero
[01:40] <pk> Im looking for some help with my display drivers in relation to minecraft, can anyone help out ^^;?
[01:41] <chris_allen> thanks action and yofel!
[01:41] <chris_allen> i'll look in that direction for now
[01:41] <chris_allen> bye
[01:41] <andrezero> ubottu: wrong window, sorry.. XChat Gnome defaults to freenode#ubuntu
[01:43] <ac7ss> does anyone know a good resource for learning POSIX pattern matching?
[01:44] <itaylor57> ac7ss: oreilly has an excellant book on regular expressions
[01:44] <ac7ss> itaylor57: looking for online. (I have some books in the attic.)
[01:45] <Adam1213> I was wondering if its possible to remove all software from a given repositery / restore things to the stock version (and replace it with the stnadard equivelent) - basically my graphics don't work with java 3d / systems testing atm but they work when I run the live version of ubunutu (eg without modifications)
[01:45] <ozatomic> Is it posible to get php5.3 on hardy?
[01:46] <xangua> Adam1213: if you mean a ppa: sudo ppa-purge <ppa's name>
[01:46] <xangua> install ppa-purge if you don't have it
[01:46] <xangua> ozatomic: compile
[01:46] <Adam1213> xangua: I will try it
[01:46] <tathagatadg> j #chipy
[01:46] <ozatomic> xangua What if i have php5.2 installed already from apt?
[01:49] <Adam1213> xangua:  - sudo ppa-purge ppa:guido-iodice/best-intel     Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: guido-iodice best-intel
[01:50] <xangua> Adam1213: if you deleted the ppa. add it again
[01:51] <lumpystiltskin> quit
[01:51] <litropy> Hi, peeps. Last night, I had two terminal tabs open. I then shut down my computer for the night, and now I'm looking for the input history of that window. E.g. - I tap "up" and only see the input lines of my first tab. Any ideas?
[01:51] <Adam1213> tried that - not working - how can i get a list of the currently installed ppas
[01:51] <uofm49426> little question if i run say a laptop runing with intel gma why does linux/ubuntu or any distro install upgrade nvidia x-server packages
[01:51] <litropy> *terminal history of the second tab
[01:52] <uofm49426> ati xserver packages
[01:52] <uofm49426> unused stuff like this
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> uofm49426: its part of a stock install to accommodate maximum video cards so that it "just works"
[01:53] <at-bunt>  litropy: does the history command help?
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> uofm49426: you can remove them if you like, they save about 128k each or so
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> uofm49426: it also includes drivers for a tonne of hardware you will never own or use, as does windows. Its just more visible (and removable) in linux
[01:54] <researcher1> hello everybody
[01:54] <Jordan_U> litropy: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/088
[01:54] <uofm49426> why cant they just make a smarter install the checks first and cuts out the fat
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> uofm49426: you can suggest it on http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[01:55] <researcher1> is it possible using ubuntu customization kit or remastersys to creat a distro which has one and the only language which is my mother tongue?
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> researcher1: sure, remaster the install media and you can do it easily
[01:56] <litropy> at-bunt, history only returns my first tab
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> uofm49426: you can remaster the ISO and remove what you don't need, or use minimal to build up
[01:56] <litropy> Jordan_U, are you saying the second tab's history is lost?
[01:57] <uofm49426> if i brainstorm would cut much fat or only a few mgs
[01:57] <Jordan_U> litropy: Yes.
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> uofm49426: it would trim it but it's not a huge saving
[01:58] <litropy> Jordan_U, thank you for your help.
[01:58] <Jordan_U> litropy: You're welcome.
[01:58] <uofm49426> maybe 100 mbs at most
[01:58] <Adam1213> if the command to add the ppa was  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:guido-iodice/best-intel   why doesn't  sudo ppa-purge ppa:guido-iodice/best-intel work
[01:59] <vol7ron> hello all, I'm an ubuntu noob and did "nvidia-xconfig" inside a VMware Player -- now I can't boot to the gui (only console)
[01:59] <Jordan_U> uofm49426: I personally appreciate the fact that I can take my current hard drive and plop it into another machine and it will run just fine without any manual installing of drivers.
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> vol7ron: vmware will use a virtualized video adapter, not an nvidia one
[02:00] <Jordan_U> vol7ron: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-bad
[02:01] <uofm49426> i never figure how to get it to change video card like i got me a ati hd 4350
[02:01] <vol7ron> ActionParsnip: yeah I was just hoping that it would make Desktop Effects work.
[02:01] <vol7ron> Jordan_U: thank you, I'll try that
[02:01] <uofm49426> my on board is a ati 3000 hd
[02:01] <Jordan_U> vol7ron: You're welcome.
[02:02] <uofm49426> i wasnt to impressed with it took it back went back to onboard what for a better card
[02:02] <researcher1> ActionParsnip: thanks
[02:03] <researcher1> bye
[02:03] <x__> anybody still at the space?
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> vol7ron: I suggest you ask in #vmware on how to enable 3D. The vmware video driver is already in a default install
[02:04] <uofm49426> not only did i reinstall putting the card in
[02:04] <uofm49426> but reinstalled when i came out
[02:04] <uofm49426> because x was broken
[02:04] <vol7ron> Jordan_U: ahhh thank you!
[02:04] <guedesav> Hi, I came here earlier because I updates my xserver-xorg packages, and then my Ubuntu stopped detecting my input devices unless I disconnected them and then reconnected them(or used modprobe to unload and reload evdev), so terry told me to do apt-get upgrade. As I feared, it didn't work and now my wireless card doesn't work and KDM also doesn't start the session(when I manage to input my password, it just goes back to the console). I did
[02:04] <guedesav> dist-upgrade to Lucid, but it still doesn't work. Can anyone help me?
[02:04] <|Long|> can someone help me with geforce 8400gs nivida update driver plz?
[02:05] <Jordan_U> vol7ron: You're welcome.
[02:05] <vol7ron> I don't know why VMWare can't get Desktop Effects to work when VirtualBox can
[02:05] <Jordan_U> guedesav: How exactly did you upgrade to lucid, and from what release?
[02:06] <guedesav> from Intrepid, I used the lucid repositories and did apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:06] <vol7ron> Do you guys recommend any backup software for Ubuntu... the plan is to go from this virtual disk to a physical one
[02:06] <guedesav> but that's not the important part, I really need to fix this xserver-xorg error, and upgrading really isn't solving.
[02:06] <vol7ron> I would hate to have to install all my programs/settings again (esp Apache/Postgres)
[02:07] <Jordan_U> guedesav: That isn't expected to work (in fact the documentation very explicitly states that attempting such a thing *will* cause severe breakage).
[02:07] <digirak> hey my indic onscreen keyboard doesnt show up
[02:07] <guedesav> well, that's what terry kept telling me to do
[02:07] <uofm49426> when i go from ati 4000 hd or 6000 hd i have to edit xorg manual or go from 3000 to 4350
[02:07] <guedesav> and since no one could give me an answer, I thought that'd be worth a try. Turns out it wasn't, and I can't revert the changes. Any suggestions?
[02:08] <uofm49426> or is there a easyer why
[02:08] <khaleel5000> hi, I am writting thesis on oil industry (financail and business perf of 1 specific company) Is there any good programm in which i can write my "notes" (may be has support for some 'corss-referencing' etc? ) [frankly its my first experience, any good program /app for writting thesis notes /stuff (keep track of all the data) ?
[02:10] <guedesav> Jordan_U: that's all?
[02:11] <Jordan_U> guedesav: Looking at the backlog terry never told you to change your repositories and apt-get dist-upgrade. At this point you pretty much have to re-install.
[02:11] <guedesav> okay
[02:11] <guedesav> but he told me to upgrade
[02:11] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | guedesav
[02:11] <Jordan_U> !eol | guedesav
[02:12] <ghostswin> hello
[02:12] <vol7ron> Jordan_U: if you I removed that xorg.conf, what does it default to? there's an xorg.conf.failsafe (my guess) and xorg.conf-backup-<dates>
[02:12] <Jordan_U> vol7ron: It defaults to autoconfiguration.
[02:12] <ghostswin> what are you talking about?
[02:13] <guedesav> Jordan_U: let me try this again. I don't need to upgrade. I never needed to upgrade. I had a problem after upgrading my xserver-xorg packages and was looking for help. In fact, what I really need is to downgrade back. I'd reinstall the 8.10 system, but my CD reader is busted, so I can't. Is there any other way I can do that?
[02:13] <vol7ron> Jordan_U: do you know where that is? I'm trying to do a file comparison to see what I did that changed - the most I see is nVidia in the "Device" section, but I don't have a config to compare to
[02:14] <ac7ss> guedesav: you could download the iso and mount it directly.
[02:14] <Jordan_U> guedesav: 1: You can't downgrade 2: 8.10 hasn't been supported for years now so 3: Your only real option is to install 10.04 or 10.10
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> guedesav: could use usb
[02:14] <guedesav> and how would I install it?
[02:14] <guedesav> from inside Ubuntu?
[02:15] <Jordan_U> guedesav: Download the iso, burn it to a CD, boot from said CD.
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> guedesav: use the iso with unetbootin. You can use intrepid but there is zero support for it and zero updates
[02:15] <uofm49426> hey not really a ubuntu support question but were did shoutcase go to from the new vlc
[02:15] <guedesav> Jordan_U: did you miss the part I said my CD reader is busted? I can't read from a CD, let alone burn into one!
[02:15] <xangua> uofm49426: shoutcast plugin was removed i believe, legal issues
[02:15] <Jordan_U> guedesav: Do you have a flash drive?
[02:16] <guedesav> Jordan_U: yes.
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> guedesav: you can use the CD with unetbootin in another system, or make an ISO of the CD and transfer it to another system to make the live usb
[02:16] <vol7ron> =\
[02:16] <uofm49426> the channels are open urls why would they care
[02:16] <Jordan_U> guedesav: Do you have an up to date Ubuntu or Windows install you can use to make a bootable USB containing Ubuntu 10.04 or 10.10?
[02:17] <neo_> @ jordan_u...u can use wubi tooo
[02:18] <guedesav> Jordan_U: yes I'll try unetbootin
[02:19] <Jordan_U> guedesav: Note that the unetbootin from Ubuntu 8.10 will *not* work for making a bootable 10.04 or 10.10 USB.
[02:20] <guedesav> Jordan_U: again, 8.10 is the one that was working just fine here, and I'm not sure the newer versions will still use. I don't want to waste another week trying to get my wireless and tablet working fine with Ubuntu again, so I'll go with 8.10
[02:20] <guedesav> Jordan_U: Am i clear?
[02:21] <MarconM> how i can to export all my installed aplications on my ubuntu 10.10 and reload on other machine
[02:21] <Choro_Nate> http://www.erepublik.com/en/referrer/Choro+Nate
[02:21] <Choro_Nate> ;p
[02:21] <Jordan_U> guedesav: If you want to use 8.10 you will not get support here, and likely won't get support anywhere else either. Is that clear?
[02:21] <chalcedony> does anyone have a favorite ftp daemon for 10.04?
[02:22] <Jordan_U> guedesav: 8.10 also has many known but unfixed security vulnerabilities.
[02:22] <MarconM> how i can to export all my installed aplications on my ubuntu 10.10 and reload on other machine for me make a automatic instalation
[02:22] <chalcedony> or better - what i need is an ident server for ubuntu 10.04?
[02:22] <Jordan_U> guedesav: It's also likely that your wireless will work out of the box with 10.04 or 10.10.
[02:22] <azam> hi
[02:23] <azam> hmm so im trying to enter in my pass on sudo but it keeps saying incorrect
[02:23] <jrib> azam: check caps lock
[02:24] <azam> yup caps lock is off so is num lock
[02:24] <jrib> azam: you are entering your user's password?
[02:24] <azam> yes
[02:24] <azam> its saying its incorrect for some reason
[02:24] <azam> is my sudo broken or something?
[02:25] <jrib> azam: can you paste what it actually says?
[02:25] <azam> oh wow
[02:25] <azam> nvm i got it :/
[02:26] <azam> Sorry i was new to it
[02:26] <azam> didnt realize I had to press enter....
[02:26] <azam> thanks  jrib for the help
[02:26] <azam> got it!
[02:26] <chalcedony> the ident server i found is: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man8/identd.8.html but it wants to be ftp'd
[02:26] <Guest44802> Hey guys. I am having alot of trouble with my grub. I've had a few people previouslly post links but nothing is working and frankly I don't know what I'm doing. Yes, I admit it but I need help. Real help. anyone up for it?
[02:26] <chalcedony> azam, glad you got it
[02:26] <jrib> Guest44802: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[02:27] <azam> first day using ubuntu just wanted to say its amazing ;)
[02:27] <chalcedony> azam, it is
[02:27] <Jordan_U> !details | Guest44802
[02:27] <Guest44802> jrib I have no grub Jordan_U I'm jt13 you gave me a link and even following those directions to a t i get errors and can't get it right
[02:28] <guedesav> Jordan_U: well, the ISO I have here is 8.10. I'm seriously too frustrated and impatient now to download a whole ISO(not to mention my system is in limited capability, and that'll make me even more frustrated), so I'll risk not having support until I decide to upgrade.
[02:28] <guedesav> And with that, I'm off to try yet another alternative. Thanks for all and good night.
[02:28] <allan8904> hey, i'm trying to unsquashfs a filesystem buts its using LZMA version 4, is there a binary for ubuntu that will do this for me? thanks
[02:30] <phoenixsampras> how to share a simple folder by smb???!!
[02:31] <jrib> phoenixsampras: right click on folder -> share
[02:31] <Guest44802> anyone?
[02:31] <phoenixsampras> jrib doesnt work, i cant access from win7
[02:31] <jrib> Guest44802: you're being too vague for anyone to know how to help you I suspect
[02:32] <saras> i am tring to upgrade digikam to 1.8.0 and missing alot of stuff
[02:32] <Jordan_U> Guest44802: Boot a liveCD, open a terminal, run "script" to start logging everything that happens in that terminal, then follow the instructions at http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide and pastebin the log (name "typescript") when you're done.
[02:32] <Guest44802> Jordan_U,  ok am starting now
[02:34] <speedrunnerG55> how do i repair bad sectors
[02:35] <will_> Hello everyone.
[02:35] <memorygap0> !bin
[02:38] <nbf> is there a deb available for firefox 4?
[02:38] <itaylor57> !ff4 | nbf
[02:38] <Jordan_U> speedrunnerG55: The drive will repair what it can automatically. If you've gotten to the point that you're getting read errors then you probably want to get a new drive.
[02:38] <nbf> thanks itaylor57
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> speedrunnerG55: +1 for new drive
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> speedrunnerG55: i'd make sure your backups are super up to date asap
[02:40] <will_> Hi ActionParsnip. I have had trouble with Kubuntu lately. So i came back to Ubuntu. =)
[02:41] <will_> ActionParsnip: Is there an available program that can compile sources for me? If "Automake" is the suggested program, which version should i get?
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> will_: if you install build-essential you will get what you need. I suggest you search for PPAs so the apps tie in with the package system
[02:44] <speedrunnerG55> oh boy
[02:44] <speedrunnerG55> its not my computer.
[02:44] <will_> ActionParsnip: I usually use Alien for converting anything else that i do not have normal Debian access to, but there are a few packages that i have to compile myself.
[02:45] <will_> ActionParsnip: New Intel video drivers would be an example of something that i would want to get ahold of.
[02:45] <will_> ActionParsnip: My ability to compile manually... "Properly" is somewhat of a dream.
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> will_: the xorg edgers compiles the latest intel drivers weekly as far as I recall, if not more often than that...
[02:46] <Jordan_U> speedrunnerG55: Then tell whoever owns the computer to backup any important data as soon as possible and get a new hard drive. What problem / error message are you actually seeing?
[02:46] <will_> ActionParsnip: They have pre-made .deb packages?
[02:47] <will_> ActionParsnip: Or would it be a PPA that should be added to get the updates that are available.
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> will_: yes it will download and install transparently, like your regular updates
[02:47] <speedrunnerG55> im seeing it in disc utility;;; there are....
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> will_: yes its a ppa
[02:47] <will_> ActionParsnip: Look's like my job tonight is to find that PPA then.
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> will_: its not hard:  ppa xorg-edgers
[02:48] <speedrunnerG55> airflow tempature warning and current pendinf bad sector count 1 sector
[02:49] <speedrunnerG55> and everywere it shows worst = 100 normalised = 100
[02:49] <mrdeb> some bad sectors are ok
[02:49] <mrdeb> as long as its under 30
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> speedrunnerG55: i'd blow some compressed air through it to clear airways
[02:49] <will_> ActionParsnip: Wonderful. They will automatically update every driver aspect as well as the required Kernel.
[02:50] <artistx> any ideas how to get digikam 1.8.0 installed on ubuntu 10.4
[02:50] <speedrunnerG55> the drive?
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> will_: the kernel willl remain the same, the ppa will simply update the kernel module your video chip uses
[02:50] <speedrunnerG55> how do i do that
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> will_: the ppa is VERY experimental and may cause issues
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> speedrunnerG55: buy air, use it
[02:50] <speedrunnerG55> you mean around the hdd
[02:51] <speedrunnerG55> its a laptop
[02:51] <will_> ActionParsnip: Intel IGP's are unstable anyway. It's a swing and miss case for me in mostly every way at the moment.
[02:51] <will_> ActionParsnip: I only get around 15-20 FPS in FPS games and i am on an Intel 4500MHD.
[02:52] <will_> ActionParsnip: My old Intel 950 GMA had a bit more stability and performance. I got about 50-60 FPS constantly on it.
[02:52] <Camarata> speedrunnerG55, find vent, point air, spray.  if its THAT bad get screw driver possibly?
[02:53] <speedrunnerG55> ok,ok thn
[02:53] <speedrunnerG55> thankks
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> will_: i guess, i try and avoid intel gpus. I only buy nvidia goodness :)
[02:55] <tamara_> hola
[02:55] <will_> ActionParsnip: They are not as bad asmost people think in some cases. But for some odd reason, they have better performance on newer games. They are horrible for classic gaming.
[02:55] <tamara_> buenas noches
[02:55] <Flynsarmy> So I take it this questions been asked alot today but: How do you install FF4 final in 10.10? I'm currently using hte mozilla daily ppa which installs 'minefield' instead of the officially branded FF4...
[02:55] <tamara_> hi
[02:56] <tamara_> all
[02:56] <tamara_> i have a quiestion for u
[02:56] <tamara_> how can i change my bootsplash in ubuntu 10.10?
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> !ff4 | Flynsarmy
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> tamara_: there are plymouth themes in the repo
[02:56] <ohsix> will_: are you talking about with wine or in general, cuz wine is rather hamstrung with older versions of ddraw
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> tamara_: I personally use this: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/ubuntu-sunrise-plymouth-theme-adds-awe-to-boot-time/
[02:57] <tamara_> thanks
[02:57] <will_> ohsix: In general. The performance for the Intel IGP's has been going downhill since 9.04 anyway though.
[02:58] <will_> ohsix: The change to UXA has made a massive performance impact on gaming/video performance for these specific IGP's.
[02:58] <ohsix> i've got 2 of them
[02:59] <will_> ohsix: If i had a way to revert to XAA i would do it. But i haven't checked into the new way to insert a xorg.conf into the installation yet.
[02:59] <ohsix> heh
[03:00] <will_> ohsix: Sure, i had some extremely intense artifacts at times, but i learned how to fix those issues and get it running properly.
[03:00] <Jordan_U> speedrunnerG55: Does disk utility rate that there are too many damaged sectors? A few is normal.
[03:01] <ohsix> it's a hard problem, theres no strictly better over on or the other; as the expense of having the resources at the right place at the right time for acceleration isn't something you can do right all the time
[03:01] <thatguy_> _guy
[03:02] <myk_robinson> question - In ubuntu 10.10, how do I set the default kernel I want to load? With the latest kernel update, my headphone jack doesn't work, but it works fine with the previous one, so I;d like to set it as the default
[03:02] <ohsix> theres always degenerate cases, the one that minimizes them is the one to go with
[03:02] <thatguy_> iPod management with ubuntu?
[03:02] <will_> ohsix: I understand that, but they should have left the configuration to allow people to choose what they wanted.
[03:02] <will_> ohsix: Kind of like them forcing you to use Pulse-Audio.
[03:02] <ohsix> will_: it's not an informed choice the user can make
[03:03] <will_> ohsix: Took me a bit to get that one removed.
[03:03] <ohsix> yea good job on that one
[03:03] <will_> ohsix: Lol. I have alot of issues with Pulse.
[03:03] <ohsix> you should get them fixed
[03:04] <Slix`> Whenever I print anything on Ubuntu to a networked printer, my printer decides that life isn't worth living and starts blinking instead of doing anything else.
[03:05] <will_> ohsix: I can't. Pulse keeps you from having audio output in 3 cases for me. Playing the game KQ, running a JACK server and output splicing from a T.V. to RCA input-output.
[03:05] <karan> I NEED HELP
[03:05] <karan> alright so i tried to uninstall firefox and apperntly it uninstalled a bunch of my programs
[03:05] <karan> and now the gnome panel is gone
[03:05] <knightrage> uh oh.
[03:05] <ohsix> will_: pulse doesn't preclude all those things, you just have to set it up to account for your abnormal use-case
[03:06] <karan> how to get back the gnome panel??!?!?
[03:06] <ohsix> for one, you can have pulse use jack as a sink
[03:06] <speedrunnerG55> it says there is 1
[03:06] <KB1JWQ> karan: Reinstall what was removed; it should be enumerated in your dpkg logs in /var/log
[03:06] <jack_> >_<
[03:06] <will_> ohsix: Pulse is new to me, i prefer the classic ALSA setup to be honest, so that is what i am using.
[03:06] <ohsix> it's dumb but you can do it, and jackdbus can also make pulse get out of the way when it is running
[03:06] <speedrunnerG55> its the first time ive seen a bad sector
[03:06] <Slix`> Should I destroy my printer?
[03:06] <ohsix> well i'm sure you know enough to "prefer" one over the other ;]
[03:06] <will_> ohsix: I use qjackctl.
[03:07] <gbear14275> ok I just reinstalled grub to the hard disk but now I'm booting to a grub prompt... and when I type ls the entries are (hd0,msdosY)
[03:07] <ohsix> irrelevant
[03:07] <gbear14275> i've never seen that before and it is not working with the howto's out there
[03:07] <karan> k just someone tell me how to get the panel backk??
[03:07] <mickster04> !panels
[03:07] <ohsix> !panel
[03:07] <nit-wit> gbear14275, where did you install grub
[03:07] <gbear14275> nit-wit: mbr
[03:08] <nit-wit> gbear14275, what link or instructions
[03:08] <ohsix> hrm !panels probably needs to be updated with dconf in the picture; not sure about the interaction
[03:08] <will_> ohsix: I would like to get Pulse working to my advantage, but i prefer the classic setup from Hardy. I decided to regress to that point.
[03:08] <Slix`> I print something on Ubuntu to a networked printer -> printer's status button starts blinking. Is there something I can do to fix this? o_o
[03:08] <gbear14275> nit-wit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:08] <Jordan_U> gbear14275: Follow this guide: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[03:08] <will_> ohsix: So far it is completely stable, i haven't had a single issue yet, i am still testing on it to see if there are going to be any issues.
[03:08] <nit-wit> thanks hold on
[03:09] <KB1JWQ> karan: You'll likely have limited success until you reinstall the stuff you pulled out of your OS.
[03:09] <karan> how do i reinstall everything?!?1
[03:09] <karan> i need step by step im a noob
[03:09] <KB1JWQ> karan: Then ask someone else, I don't have the time to handhold tonight unfortunately.
[03:09] <nit-wit> gbear14275, you running grub2
[03:09] <ohsix> will_: unfortunately there are a lot of drawbacks, stuff you probably don't even care to notice, but drawbacks nonetheless
[03:09] <gbear14275> yeah
[03:10] <will_> ohsix: Oh i'm sure there are alot. But you're right, probably stuff i have never payed attention to in the first place, haha.
[03:10] <nit-wit> gbear14275, lets make this easiest run this script and pastebin the text.http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[03:10] <ohsix> a lot of people care about latency and more than one fixed sample rate as an option
[03:12] <Dice-Man> i care about potatoes ohsix
[03:12] <Ja23> Yo, why does the "Shared" partition of my HD sometimes not show up?
[03:12] <Ja23> but then I go to "Places" -"That HD" and it shows up?
[03:13] <Dice-Man> Ja23: you need to mount them
[03:13] <Dice-Man> man mount
[03:13] <sphinxxx> hey i'm trying to recover data off a mac hard drive, i loaded ubuntu off a usb stick, its showing the home folder as empty how is that possible?
[03:13] <Ja23> Why doesn't it do that automatically, it used to?
[03:13] <Dice-Man> Ja23: cat /etc/fstab
[03:13] <Dice-Man> then man mount
[03:13] <Dice-Man> rtfm
[03:13] <Jordan_U> !rtfm | Dice-Man
[03:14] <Dice-Man> sorry
[03:14] <Ja23> I don't understand that answer, what do those commands do?
[03:14] <ohsix> sphinxxx: you might have to disable the journal to mount it, or have it ignore it; not sure, but at least it's a direction to go :P
[03:14] <Jordan_U> sphinxxx: OSX puts user's home directories in /Users/, not /home/.
[03:14] <Dice-Man> Ja23: i think i'm tired and i just give half answer
[03:14] <Ja23> LOL
[03:14] <Dice-Man> *answers instead of proper ones
[03:14] <nit-wit> Ja23, look at the partition with gparted for any flags as well
[03:14] <Ja23> I just got woken up and am tired as fuck too
[03:14] <sphinxxx> Jordan_U: there is no Users directory, something is strange
[03:15] <Jordan_U> !language | Ja23
[03:15] <Ja23> =/
[03:15] <Jordan_U> sphinxxx: How did you mount the drive?
[03:15] <sphinxxx> ohsix: i got it mounted and i can see the library and applications folders and some other stuff, but cannot find any documents
[03:15] <azam> any luck getting ubuntu on hp slate? is it possible?
[03:15] <sphinxxx> Jordan_U: i right clicked the drive and clicked mount
[03:15] <ohsix> sphinxxx: couldn't say; haven't had much opportunity to look at those filesystems in that scenario
[03:15] <Jordan_U> sphinxxx: Can you pastebin the output of "ls /path/to/OSX/mountpoint/"?
[03:16] <Ja23> What do i do with GParted?
[03:16] <sphinxxx> k one sec
[03:16] <KB1JWQ> azam: Try it and see. :-)
[03:16] <Ja23> I refreshed devices, I see no "flags"..
[03:16] <azam> I will try it sometime
[03:17] <azam> if it goes well i will tell you guys
[03:17] <azam> Cause frankly since Ubuntu is a very lightweight OS it shouldn't slow down the  slate
[03:18] <alliche> helo
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> azam: if you use lxde+openbox instead of gnome+compiz it's even lighter
[03:19] <azam> ActionParsnip, I hope I find out about that someday :P
[03:19] <sphinxxx> Jordan_U: in file explorer when i hover over "macintosh hd" it shows "/media/Macintosh HD", if i ls that in terminal it says cannot find path
[03:19] <azam> right now im a noob
[03:19] <alliche> i'm beginner in lunix
[03:19] <azam> first day using Ubuntu lol
[03:19] <azam> :P
[03:19] <alliche> i use xubunto
[03:19] <Ja23> How possible is it that if I resize all my partitions that I will have to reformat my computer?
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> azam: look into lubuntu
[03:19] <falloree> i'm trying to update this 10.04 box and it's failed to fetch i think all of the updates when i use the update manager. i ahve internet, so why isn't it working?
[03:19] <azam> ok Action
[03:20] <alliche> by
[03:21] <nit-wit> falloree, what happens when you run in the terminal sudo apt-get update
[03:21] <sphinxxx> Jordan_U: i think i may need to some package to read the file system, i went into gparted and it has a red exclamation next to the partition
[03:21] <sphinxxx> but its strange because i can see folders and files in it..
[03:21] <falloree> nit-wit, it says E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:21] <falloree> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[03:22] <sphinxxx> it also has a key next to it
[03:22] <nit-wit> falloree, do you have any thing open but the terminal
[03:24] <Ja23> Hello everyone, I really need to expand both my linux and windows partitions on my dual boot computer and shrink my shared partition.  How possible is this?
[03:24] <falloree> nit-wit, i had a failed "distribution upgrade" window open, closed it and the update ran
[03:24] <zz_> ?
[03:25] <nit-wit> falloree, you can only have one download device open at once
[03:25] <falloree> nit-wit, yeah, but it only downloaded 1.3mb of stuff, and the list that the update manager showed was much bigger (150mb)
[03:26] <falloree> when i open the update manager there's still a ton of stuff it wants to download, but it tells me only a partial upgrade can be done
[03:26] <nit-wit> falloree, they are loading the same stuff from the same place i would not even look at the size
[03:26] <anonboots> Hello. I am attempting to install Skype on 10.10, and the package has apparently hung up in the Software Center. How do I stop it from trying to install, and attempt to install again?
[03:27] <kadapaguy_ubuntu> hi friends
[03:27] <ac7ss> I know this is an easy thing to ask, I want to be able to have anything typed into the console dumped into a text file. (Just paste into a terminal and have it logged.)
[03:27] <nit-wit> falloree, how long ago did you run a update and upgrade
[03:27] <falloree> nit-wit, a while, months at least
[03:27] <kadapaguy_ubuntu> ubuntu natty channel please
[03:27] <ohsix> #ubuntu+1
[03:27] <xangua> kadapaguy_ubuntu: #ubuntu+1
[03:27] <nit-wit> falloree, your running maverick correct
[03:28] <falloree> lucid lynx, nit-wit
[03:28] <Jordan_U> sphinxxx: That just means that it's mounted (which would be a problem if you were trying to use gparted to resize it, but you're not).
[03:28] <sphinxxx> Jordan_U: i unmounted everything
[03:28] <kadapaguy_ubuntu> join /ubuntu+1
[03:28] <Jordan_U> sphinxxx: Please pastebin the output of this command: ls "/media/Macintosh HD/"
[03:29] <Jordan_U> sphinxxx: Don't. It needs to be mounted to view the files.
[03:29] <sphinxxx> i know im just starting over
[03:29] <nit-wit> falloree, not knowing what you have added and what or isn't ticked on as far as regular repos makes this kind of difficult. Having a partial this late in Lucid is rather strange
[03:29] <ac7ss> would cp /dev/ttyx file.txt work?
[03:29] <sphinxxx> jordan to mount use sudo mount /dev/sdb
[03:30] <Jordan_U> sphinxxx: No.
[03:30] <kadapaguy_ubuntu> i am unable to join the channel /ubuntu+1?
[03:30] <ac7ss> it did, nevermind.
[03:31] <kadapaguy_ubuntu> i am using gnome xchat irc
[03:31] <anonboots> Hello. I am attempting to install Skype on 10.10, and the package has apparently hung up in the Software Center. How do I stop it from trying to install, and attempt to install again?
[03:31] <sphinxxx> Jordan_U: what command then?
[03:31] <Ja23> Jordan/nit-wit/ac7ss | I have been googling this and just want to make sure, it is possible to resize all the partitions of my one partitioned HD.
[03:32] <Jordan_U> sphinxxx: Most likely: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/
[03:32] <Ja23> ?
[03:32] <critical_max> ac7ss: bash history is your friend
[03:32] <critical_max> ac7ss: ~/.bash_history
[03:32] <critical_max> ac7ss: configurable in your bashrc, google has many details :)
[03:33] <Jordan_U> Ja23: Yes. Are you having a particular problem?
[03:33] <ac7ss> ja23: yes.
[03:33] <Ja23> I have no room on my windows or linux partitions!
[03:33] <Ja23> They both need to be BIGGER
[03:33] <Guest89862> you need to buy a new hd lol
[03:33] <Ja23> I have lots of space on my shared partition
[03:33] <Guest89862> or span it somehow?
[03:34] <Guest89862> oh
[03:34] <Guest89862> ok
[03:34] <Ja23> =)
[03:34] <Guest89862> you can use a cd to resize em
[03:34] <Guest89862> gparted
[03:34] <ac7ss> critical_max: I wanted a place to dump info to a SSH terminal.  'cat /dev/pts/4 >>Notes.txt' works great!
[03:34] <Guest89862> bootable
[03:34] <Ja23> Yeah, it's very confusing to me.  When I resize the large partition how do I move that free space over to the linux and windows partitions?
[03:35] <critical_max> ac7ss: i'm not sure that is what you are looking for but that's the way the bash shell logs. thing is, it should be actual shell commands or you'll get all kinds of noise. why not use a text editor like nano?
[03:35] <Guest89862> if you make it smaller you can add space to the other ones
[03:35] <mrdeb> how do you upgrade gnome 2 to 3 in 1010
[03:35] <Guest89862> update manager?
[03:35] <critical_max> ac7ss: ahh, so just need periodic dumps of the whole contents? cool trick.
[03:35] <Ja23> Do I actually need to make it smaller in gparted, not just put a command on the stack in gparted?
[03:36] <sphinxxx> Jordan_U:  i tried sudo mount /dev/sdb /mac/    and it said mount point /mac/ does not exists, isn't it supposed to create that mount point though?
[03:36] <nit-wit> mrdeb, ther is a gnome stack ppa
[03:36] <Guest89862> idk bro sorry
[03:36] <mrdeb> nit-wit: do you think it's safe
[03:36] <anonboots> Hello. I am attempting to install Skype on 10.10, and the package has apparently hung up in the Software Center. How do I stop it from trying to install, and attempt to install again?
[03:36] <hoho> hi, anyone know the best file synchronization tool? is it rsync?
[03:37] <Ja23> anonboots: i have had things like that happen, I just kill it, restart, reinstall and it's ok
[03:37] <ac7ss> critical_max: I want something auto saved. the cat command works fine.
[03:37] <Jordan_U> sphinxxx: No, you need to create the directory yourself, and it's going to be sdb1 or sdb2. You can't mount just /dev/sdb.
[03:37] <anonboots> Ja23. So kill a PID?
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> hoho: there is no single best app for any one task
[03:37] <Ja23> but I'm here asking for help, so I dunno
[03:37] <sinisterstuf> hi, I'm trying to install an ident daemon in Ubuntu 10.10 but no success, which package should I install?
[03:37] <critical_max> ac7ss: ah, just put it in cron then
[03:37] <at-bunt> anonboots: sudo top and then find the pid for dpkg and kill it with the "q" option
[03:37] <Guest89862> well kill pid
[03:37] <critical_max> anonboots: kill `pgrep software-center`
[03:38] <ac7ss> critical_max: !?!? no, the append from cat is perfect.
[03:38] <Ja23> anonboots: It can't be that bad, I think it'll be fine
[03:38] <at-bunt> anonboots: then sudo dpkg -i skype.deb
[03:38] <sphinxxx> Jordan_U: i just mounted it using the disk utility
[03:38] <critical_max> ac7ss: oh, it's continual that way? good deal
[03:38] <Guest89862> if the install messes with ubuntu ur gonna have to forcibly remove the package
[03:38] <Guest89862> this happened to me with frostwire
[03:38] <Jordan_U> sphinxxx: Please pastebin the output of this command: ls "/media/Macintosh HD/"
[03:38] <nit-wit> mrdeb, I have it I don't like gnome3 in general, I have 3 or 4 desktops installed, regular,lxde, openbox
[03:38] <hoho> actionparsnip : I am looking for low cpu, memory, and I/O consumption
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: you'll need to escape the space
[03:38] <ac7ss> critical_max: just end the session with a CTRL-D.  :)
[03:38] <Guest89862> dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq webmin <- like that
[03:39] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: Not when it's quoted :)
[03:39] <critical_max> ac7ss: i missed the second > ;)
[03:39] <nit-wit> mrdeb, it is a seperate desktop not on top of another
[03:39] <sphinxxx> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/skafiC2t
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> hoho: rsync will do the job fine, its not best, nor is it worst. If you are comfortable with rsync then use it, there is also grsync to give a gui
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: didn't spoty that. nice ;)
[03:39] <sphinxxx> Jordan_U: its showing the Users folder, but i dont see that in the file explorer, why?
[03:40] <mrdeb> nit-wit: why
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> hoho: you can cron rsync too which is dead handy
[03:40] <critical_max> hoho: rsync is a good choice, you can do it over ssh, and should
[03:40] <grendal-prime> hey guys i got this acer aspire d255 great machine so far but...the mic does funny stuff...as it turns out i have to disable disable one of the mics...
[03:40] <nit-wit> mrdeb, variety
[03:40] <Jordan_U> sphinxxx: Probably because the filesystem is corrupted somehow. Please pastebin the output of "dmesg".
[03:40] <critical_max> hoho: that is if it's server to server
[03:41] <Guest89862> how do you do that? "/rsync originalpath /backuplocation?"
[03:41] <sl33k_> How to install python packages after unpacking it?
[03:41] <grendal-prime> and then it works...this is done via that pulse audio mixer.  the problem is when i adjust the volume via the typical volumne control it linux the two mics together again...
[03:41] <Guest89862> how do you do that? "rsync /originalpath /backuplocation?"
[03:41] <grendal-prime> and then i get no sound in at all.
[03:41] <critical_max> !rsync | Guest89862
[03:41] <casa> que pex
[03:41] <casa> que ay
[03:41] <casa> que hacen
[03:41] <Guest89862> holla
[03:41] <Guest89862> thanks
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> Guest89862: look into grsync. It will give the rsync command of what is going on too, so you can copy it ;)
[03:41] <critical_max> welcome
[03:42] <hoho> actionparsnip : I am worry about the cpu and memory consumption, is rsysnc use it low?
[03:42] <casa> que comentan
[03:42] <anonboots> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[03:42] <casa> soy nuevo en esto
[03:42] <th0r> !es
[03:42] <hoho> critical_max : I am worry about the cpu and memory consumption, is rsysnc use it low?
[03:42] <sphinxxx> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/FNPqtBzY
[03:42] <anonboots> I cant seem to kill software center and stop it from trying to install.
[03:42] <sl33k_> How to install python packages after unpacking it?
[03:42] <critical_max> hoho: unless you have SSD your cpu/memory are not the limiting factor on rsync
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> hoho: its a command like any other so it can be given a high nice value to keep it's impact low
[03:42] <grendal-prime> hoho rsync is the bomb ther is nothing better... i move  240 gigs every 24 hours with it.
[03:42] <casa> no les entiendo
[03:42] <sphinxxx> Jordan_U: also disk utility says the disk has bad sectors
[03:42] <casa> no mancennn
[03:43] <grendal-prime> and im not making that up...
[03:43] <casa> echenmela en español
[03:43] <chaorain> Does anyone know of a writing program that uses a similar method of sorting files to OneNote? i.e. Sections and pages like this? http://blogs.office.com/b/crabby_office_lady/archive/2011/02/21/onenote-notebooks-sections-pages.aspx
[03:43] <IdleOne> !es | casa
[03:43] <critical_max> yep, that's a normal small business cycle appropriate for rsync
[03:43] <Flynsarmy> Hey guys. I'm in FF4 final and i unchecked 'View - Toolbars - Menu Bar' but the firefox button didn't appear...so I'm left with nothing and need to use alt+f to make menu bar appear.....any ideas how to get the firefox button to appear?
[03:43] <sl33k_> How to install python packages after unpacking it?
[03:43] <MrStryker> how do i block a port
[03:44] <th0r> MrStryker: iptables
[03:44] <Jordan_U> sphinxxx: Do you have a drive with enough space to store a full disk image of the Mac drive?
[03:44] <MrStryker> oh yeah, duh
[03:44] <sl33k_> How to install python packages after unpacking it?
[03:44] <sphinxxx> Jordan_U: yeah i think so, the EFI (first partition) too, or just the main one?
[03:44] <casa> jajajajajaja
[03:45] <critical_max> sl33k_: pip
[03:45] <wizardken> what's the difference between a windows manager and a desktop environment
[03:45] <casa> gnu/linux es prometedor
[03:45] <hoho> critical_max : what is SSD?
[03:45] <Jordan_U> sphinxxx: Might as well do the whole drive, the EFI partition should be very small anyway.
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> wizardken: the DE gives a suite of apps and libs for them to run in. The window manager draws the windows for those apps
[03:46] <critical_max> !ssd | hoho
[03:46] <critical_max> hoho: hmm... google "solid state drive"
[03:46] <sphinxxx> Jordan_U: is there anything else i could try before doing that?
[03:46] <ohsix> the window manager draws decorations and lets you move windows, it doesn't draw them unless its a compositing wm
[03:46] <sphinxxx> Jordan_U: it seems like the data is still there, just the mounting point is corrupted somehow
[03:47] <hoho> grendal-prime : what about the cpu and memory consumption on your server while using rsync?
[03:47] <Jordan_U> sphinxxx: No, the only problem is with the hard drive, it's mounted fine.
[03:47] <digirak> i cant seem to get the indic onscreen keyboard to work
[03:48] <sphinxxx> Jordan_U: ok so after copying the entire drive what would i do?
[03:48] <critical_max> hoho: cpu usage depends on cores, you might see a load of 1 per core under heavy load on a recent system
[03:48] <critical_max> hoho: your bottleneck is hard drive speed
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> critical_max: and network speed / load at time of rsync
[03:48] <critical_max> actionparsnip: ooh yeah, can't forget network.
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> ;)
[03:49] <Jordan_U> sphinxxx: After copying the entire disk with a utility called GNU ddrescue you should be able to mount the disk image and hopefully see more files (GNU ddrescue is a tool for getting as much data as possible from a damaged disk).
[03:49] <sphinxxx> Jordan_U: i grab that from the ubuntu software center?
[03:50] <Jordan_U> sphinxxx: Yes. Be sure to get GNU ddrescue and not the inferior but similarly named dd_rescue.
[03:50] <adipatikarna> hi
[03:51] <sphinxxx> Jordan_U: i download the tar.lz file but can't seem to run it (i couldnt find it in ubuntu software center)
[03:52] <hoho> critical-max : I am just worried since I run a high traffic website on it
[03:52] <mrdeb> how do you install the latest unity on 10.10
[03:52] <StepNjump> Guys I would need help to mount a Windows NTFS partition please in Ubuntu to transfer some files
[03:52] <grendal-prime> hoho durring that time of transmit it uses 60-80% of the cpu it compress the data on the fly
[03:53] <grendal-prime> trust me when i say this is the best data moving tool you will find
[03:53] <critical_max> StepNjump: Does the partition appear in your Places menu?
[03:53] <grendal-prime> i move a lot of data in one day  with that thing..
[03:53] <StepNjump> Let me check.. you mean in Nautilus Critical_max
[03:53] <sphinxxx> Jordan_U: is there a way to disable journaling on the drive?
[03:54] <Riberty> when is the rc of 11.04 coming out?
[03:54] <critical_max> No, I mean the main Places menu at the top of the screen
[03:54] <hoho> grendal-prime : I am just worried since I run a high traffic website on it
[03:54] <ohsix> grendal-prime: sometimes touching all the files in the set on both sides is undesirable, and you need lower latency between syncs, so it's not for everything
[03:54] <Jordan_U> sphinxxx: You do *NOT* want to disable journaling on that drive. Don't even think about it. You don't want to write anything to that drive.
[03:55] <critical_max> StepNjump: if it appears there, selecting it for the first time will mount it. Then it should appear in Nautilus.
[03:55] <sphinxxx> oh ok
[03:55] <StepNjump> critical_max, no nothing under places in Nautilus. Well, not at the first level anyway
[03:55] <chaorain> Does anyone know how to "Roll up" a window or how to configure it?
[03:55] <critical_max> StepNjump: it would be somewhere between Computer and your optical drive in that menu
[03:56] <Jordan_U> sphinxxx: If you're running from a LiveCD you'll need to enable the universe repository to get GNU ddrescue. Edit > Software Sources... in Software Center.
[03:56] <StepNjump>  desktop, filesystem, network, System reserved, acer, linux, trash, documents, music, pictures, video and download.. That's all I have critical_max
[03:56] <critical_max> Chaorain: System > Preferences > Windows > Titlebar Action
[03:56] <th0r> StepNjump: you looking in nautilus?
[03:57] <StepNjump> critical_max, I don't have an optical drive
[03:57] <StepNjump> Yes nautilus Th0r
[03:57] <critical_max> StepNjump: Ahh, you're running an ASUS netbook preload. I don't know how those are set up. Have you checked their help files yet?
[03:57] <th0r> StepNjump: no...you need to look at the PLACES menu at the top of the screen, next to Applications
[03:57] <StepNjump> critical_max, it's an acer aspire one netbook
[03:58] <MrStryker>  how do i use screen
[03:58] <StepNjump> critical_max, which help files?
[03:58] <critical_max> StepNjump: google for "acer ubuntu ntfs mount" yet?
[03:58] <chaorain> critical_max: ok, I need to be more specific, I was able to use my scroll wheel to control the "shade" function. I have Compiz if that makes a difference
[03:58] <critical_max> StepNjump: that's where i'd start.
[03:58] <MrStryker> how do i use screen the program, it refers me to byobu
[03:59] <critical_max> chaorain: last time I used compiz, those details were configured per engine
[03:59] <baby> hi
[03:59] <critical_max> chaorain: you have the compiz-config whatsit app?
[03:59] <StepNjump> Ok critical_max, I will try that
[03:59] <baby> iopu8
[03:59] <StepNjump> th0r, nothing there
[03:59] <baby> .
[03:59] <StepNjump> What am I looking for? NTFS label?
[03:59] <baby> hello
[03:59] <chaorain> critical_max: yeah, havn't found it yet
[04:00] <dwarder> how do i enable site for apache?
[04:00] <baby> who are you?
[04:00] <dwarder> e2ensite ?
[04:00] <dwarder> i dont' have it
[04:00] <sphinxxx> Jordan_U: i enabled the universe repository but still can't find ddrescue
[04:00] <critical_max> StepNjump: they show in gnome's Places menu, labelled by their partition size, on a stock Ubuntu 10.04
[04:00] <baby> hello
[04:00] <critical_max> StepNjump: I strongly suspect yours is configured differently from stock
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> hi baby
[04:00] <MrStryker> baby, why are you asking who iopu8 is?
[04:01] <digirak> any idea what will have this package
[04:01] <digirak> No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[04:01] <StepNjump> critical_max, I'm not sure if this is gnome.. I think I'm running the other desktop, not gnome but I could be wrong
[04:01] <critical_max> digirak: libgtk probably
[04:01] <sphinxxx> Jordan_U: nevermind, found it
[04:01] <StepNjump> critical_max I'm on 10.10 32 bits for netbooks
[04:01] <critical_max> StepNjump: xfce?
[04:01] <digirak> critical_max: ok thanks
[04:01] <sphinxxx> Jordan_U: where is it located once i installed it?
[04:02] <dwarder> anyone uses apache?
[04:02] <ac7ss> I am using the command 'powersave-selector' and it just sits there, do I have to run it bg or just kill it.
[04:02] <StepNjump> xfce? critical_max
[04:02] <StepNjump> critical_max, no it's stock
[04:03] <Jordan_U> sphinxxx: It's a terminal based application.
[04:03] <StepNjump> how do I know which desktop I am running whether it's gnome or something else?
[04:03] <sl33k_> critical_max: thanks
[04:03] <sphinxxx> Jordan_U: when i run ddrescue from terminal it says i need to sudo apt-get gddrescue, but i just installed it from software center??
[04:04] <ohsix> theres ddrescue and gddrescue, one has a command called dd_rescue and the other has ddrescue, it's great!
[04:05] <critical_max> sl33k_: you're welcome, there's a PyPI website too for a nicer browsing interface
[04:05] <critical_max> StepNjump: xfce is a stock desktop for some ubuntu, I really don't know anything about the Acer setups so I'm afraid I can't be of much help
[04:05] <dwarder> i have apache2.2-common installed, why don't i have e2ensite?
[04:05] <StepNjump> critical_max should I download ntfs-3g? I think it suggests that on the web
[04:05] <brophat> is it possible for a printer driver to work with 32 bit ubuntu but not work for 64 bit ubuntu?
[04:06] <critical_max> StepNjump: because it should "just work" on most ubuntu, I think you have something else going on and you should refer to the acer docs or forum
[04:06] <StepNjump> but how can I know what desktop I run and get the version in terminal?
[04:06] <critical_max> stepnjump: you have whatever acer preloads
[04:06] <evan_> hey folks, working on a friends computer and having some driver issues i think
[04:06] <lyalhy> ??
[04:06] <StepNjump> I know, I used to have it in my previous ubuntu desktop available critical_max
[04:07] <critical_max> stepnjump: their docs/forum should have your question as a FAQ
[04:07] <grendal-prime> ohsix...how much data do you move in one day...
[04:07] <sphinxxx> why won't the command fsck.hfsplus work
[04:07]  * dwarder thinks that he has an invisible cloak on him
[04:07] <evan_> can't get his wireless up and running. he's got an internal card and a usb card and i can't get either one to work
[04:07] <digirak> any idea where I would find unique-1.0
[04:07] <critical_max> stepnjump: good luck, and indeed maybe you need to install ntfs3g, i just don't want to tell you that when I don't know the system
[04:07] <Jordan_U> sphinxxx: As I said you need *GNU* ddrescue.
[04:07] <MrStryker> StepNjump, under the system menu, does it say 'About GNOME'
[04:08] <grendal-prime> i literally move 240 GIGS a day with it.Thats text..over 6000 files per min..wich when it comes to offloading fillers becomes very important.
[04:08] <grendal-prime> and that is only one data feed i have to maitain.
[04:08] <ohsix> good job
[04:08] <MrStryker> dwarder, you are cloaked
[04:08] <grendal-prime> its going to the customer via a 280 mbs connection.
[04:09] <grendal-prime> so about 3 megs a second.
[04:09] <sphinxxx> Jordan_U: i got it and it won't run from command line, even though i installed it already
[04:09] <grendal-prime> durring peek hours it enumerates in 10 min and then starts again.
[04:09] <StepNjump> critical_max, yes it's gnome
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> grendal-prime: we do that, its a great backup method
[04:09] <grendal-prime> and hoho..if your server is hi demand..get a second box and run rsync from that.
[04:10] <Blackadder> Hi I am more than happy with my Ubuntu servers. I wish to build a control server with gnome installed any ideas on howto after base server installed
[04:10] <ohsix> or dont
[04:10] <StepNjump> Sorry MrStryker, where is the system menu? This is a different setup for netbooks
[04:10] <ohsix> run varnish on a frontend instead
[04:10] <grendal-prime> you can tunnel it right thorugh ssh..literally 4 lines of bash and you are done..point cron to the script and fagetaboutit.
[04:10] <Jordan_U> sphinxxx: No, you did not install GNU ddrescue, you installed non-GNU ddrescue which is an inferior program.
[04:10] <StepNjump> Ok thanks critical_max, if you think of anything, please kindly let me know. Thanks for your help
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> Blackadder: i'd install webmin or similar to give a web interface
[04:10] <MrStryker> StepNjump, you may be using unity
[04:11] <critical_max> stepnjump: If it is gnome then it is DEFINITELY customized and you should check Acer and find out where they have hidden the feature you want.
[04:11] <critical_max> stepnjump: you're quite welcome
[04:11] <sphinxxx> Jordan_U: i installed the only one that showed up in  software center
[04:11] <grendal-prime> ActionParsnip, i use it to move a crapload of data every second..i mean we are not even syncing it..although we could but we are just offloading data with it..it works better than cp because we can compress the data ad it goes out.
[04:11] <ohsix> Jordan_U: inferior eh?
[04:11] <dwarder> MrStryker: it was a metaphor that nobody answers my question, though it that was easy one as i figured out, command is not e2ensite but a2ensite
[04:11] <Blackadder> cool thanks m8. I hate having a web interface but some guys are not so great on code especially when initializing  openvpn
[04:11] <grendal-prime> its part of the rsync protocol..
[04:12] <grendal-prime> i would marry the develops ugly sister if he asked me to
[04:12] <grendal-prime> errr..or she?
[04:12] <ohsix> grendal-prime: you keep going on like nobody knows what rsync was, and as if it wasn't boring as any other tool that everyone knows about
[04:12] <sysop3> ok I got a wierd issue.  when I try a apt-get build-dep vlc I get :"E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_dists_https_ppa_ubuntu_maverick_source_Sources - open (2: No such file"
[04:12] <critical_max> Question, what's a screen recorder that plays nice with Gnome/Ubuntu?
[04:13] <Bawn> a2ensite
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> grendal-prime: we use a windows app and it just moves, just gotta spot check it, if a job stops, just kill it and the next data chunk kicks off the job monitoring again.
[04:13] <StepNjump> critical_max: I don't understand when you say to check acer because this netbook came with windows7 built in. I dual boot partitionned it in order to have ubuntu installed... There is something I miss there
[04:13] <KingPrawn> Hello
[04:13] <grendal-prime> look im just saying..alot of people know about it ohsix but honestly i dont know many people that have the situation i have where they have to move as much data as i do..im just letting everyone know..."hey..ive put it through the pases and you can even use it for stuff that yo wouldnt normally consider)
[04:13] <Jordan_U> ohsix: According to their website it appears that they switch to a smaller block size on the first pass, which will cause additional wear on the drive before getting all of the data that can be read with a larger block size first.
[04:13] <grendal-prime> and im trying to let hoho know..its probably were he is going to wind up so he should start there.
[04:14] <critical_max> stepnjump: no i was missing that info... well... hmm
[04:14] <critical_max> !ntfs | stepnjump
[04:14] <dwarder> Bawn: and thank you for noticing me, now i know i exist ;)
[04:14] <dwarder> +that
[04:14] <Bawn> yup, dwarder
[04:14] <critical_max> !ntfs-3g|stepnjump
[04:14] <Jordan_U> sphinxxx: Run "sudo apt-get remove ddrescue; sudo apt-get install gddrescue".
[04:14] <critical_max> stepnjump, i would go ahead and follow the ubuntu ntfs-3g docs at this point
[04:14] <grendal-prime> ActionParsnip, ya the entire reason we wound up using it from a linux box was cause the windows machine in charge of moving our data backups...borked..at a very bad time.
[04:15] <StepNjump> oh yes, it does mention NTFS-3g... excellent thanks critical_max. That will help a lot. I like your nick btw!
[04:15] <KingPrawn> anyone have issues installing nvidia drivers? I can't get them to install
[04:15] <grendal-prime> since then...2 years.. 4 line script  and guess what...not a single prolem.
[04:15] <chenwl> how to set "delete style" vim highlight
[04:15] <chenwl> I want some word show as "deleted"
[04:15] <critical_max> stepnjump: hehe thanks, glad we got that sorted...
[04:15] <sphinxxx> Jordan_U: ok i've got it installed, now what?
[04:15] <chenwl> just like "<del>some word</del>"
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> KingPrawn: never had an issue with them in 10 years
[04:16] <ohsix> Jordan_U: the only aditional wear it could be is in the servo mechanism; the larger block sizes are just for speed, and you truly have a contrived scenario if you are running the clock out on the servo mechanism
[04:16] <StepNjump> critical_max, it's true that the netbook version of Ubuntu is limited version because of limited space on the HDD and limited RAM. So they try to keep it light
[04:16] <grendal-prime> and ohsix  your right...i know windows users that will actually build a linux box just to use rsync to move data.
[04:16] <critical_max> stepnjump: yeah, that explains it... you're going to find a LOT of things are different no doubt... be sure to mention you're running the netbook version in future :)
[04:16] <grendal-prime> and they for the most part to not tell anyone about it..but...it is there..hidding in a closet somewhere.
[04:17] <chenwl> how to set vim highlight like "<del>some word</del>"
[04:17] <grendal-prime> lurking if you will
[04:17] <chenwl> how to set vim highlight like "<del>some word</del>"?
[04:17] <grendal-prime> lurk lurk...WHAMMO move data..lurk lurk.
[04:17] <ohsix> indirect disk access, a great way to do things when you have to scan all the sources
[04:17] <crus> grendal-prime: why not just use rsync on windows?
[04:17] <grendal-prime> cause it blows
[04:18] <StepNjump> critical_max this netbook is really nice with Ubuntu. WOrks great and can be carried anywhere.. Really nice little mobile system
[04:18] <grendal-prime> and sucks at the same time
[04:18] <grendal-prime> it blucks
[04:18] <critical_max> stepnjump: how's the battery life compared to win7?
[04:18] <crus> what about it "blucks" exactly?
[04:18] <grendal-prime> ok..ill start with just this
[04:18] <grendal-prime> nfs
[04:19] <crus> care to elaborate? or are you just spinning fud
[04:19] <grendal-prime> on windows...ooooohhhh....just now is it starting to work right..and guesss what cifs...blows...
[04:19] <Jordan_U> ohsix: If a drive is dying then you want to get anything you can with larger block sizes first. Even if you just consider speed it means that you will have a more complete image sooner than if you use smaller block sizes for everything.
[04:19] <crus> grendal-prime: are you going to give any reasons or are you just going to keep defering and saying different things blow etc?
[04:20] <Sirkill> mute?
[04:20] <Sirkill> cool
[04:20] <grendal-prime> there is no way in hell you are going to run a filler and run anything worth anything with cifs..you have to have nfs..as soon as you start looking into things like vmware guess what..you are going to need nfs.
[04:20] <Glow_> hi Sirkill
[04:20] <Sirkill> HI GLOW
[04:20] <Glow_> SUP
[04:20] <Sirkill> \o/
[04:20] <grendal-prime> try it on windows
[04:20] <Glow_> FUCKER
[04:20] <Sirkill> LETS GO TO A SMALLER ROOM
[04:20] <Sirkill> THIS ONES TO MASSIVE
[04:20] <StepNjump> critical_max, mmm it's a new toy I couldn't tell you for sure but ubuntu, it must last about 4 hours
[04:21] <StepNjump> I would have to test it
[04:21] <ohsix> Jordan_U: thats a different argument, one could also be made that a drive might heat up too much and not work reliably with faster reading
[04:21] <Jordan_U> !caps | Sirkill
[04:21] <Sirkill> lolol
[04:21] <Sirkill> kk
[04:21] <crus> grendal-prime: we were talking about rsync on windows, not nfs.
[04:21] <ohsix> Jordan_U: it's all about resumability
[04:21] <grendal-prime> crus, right
[04:21] <StepNjump> critical_max it's a new toy I couldn't tell you for sure but ubuntu, it must last about 4 hours. I should test it and let you know
[04:21] <grendal-prime> what do you do when you reach 25000 inodes on a windows system?
[04:21] <Xion> i just install a app called tweetdeck and requires a keyring to open it
[04:22] <grendal-prime> i would like to see you deal with that
[04:22] <critical_max> stepnjump: yeah in the past ubuntu's battery life is less than win7, be nice to see it catch up ;)
[04:22] <StepNjump> critical_max: I'm going to get a second one at costco. I got mine for 300$. I presume they will spike up in price with the tsunami disaster. It's a good investment
[04:22] <Xion> can i use keyring for any app i like to protect ?
[04:22] <critical_max> I found a screen recorder in ubuntu that works great, it's called "istanbul"
[04:22] <Jordan_U> ohsix: And GNU ddrescu's logging is great.
[04:22] <ohsix> grendal-prime: considering theres no concept of an inode to windows ...
[04:22] <StepNjump> really???
[04:22] <grendal-prime> crus, you got a windows system that will deal with that?
[04:22] <StepNjump> Ok I went on battery now
[04:22] <grendal-prime> no shit?
[04:22] <crus> grendal-prime: okay, so what was the problem with rsync on windows exactly? we seem to have gone a bit sideways with this one
[04:22] <ohsix> Jordan_U: clever fellow! i knew my ruse wouldn't last for long
[04:22] <StepNjump> If you are still here, I will let you know
[04:22] <critical_max> stepnjump: yeah, depending on what you're doing, on desktop replacement type laptops linux can be brutal on battery
[04:22] <IdleOne> !windows | grendal-prime
[04:23] <critical_max> even moreso than windows
[04:23] <StepNjump> do you leave your computer on all night? I could leave you a message
[04:23] <digilife> hi
[04:23] <critical_max> yeah just message me here
[04:23] <Jordan_U> ohsix: Read the documentation for both GNU ddrescue and non-GNU ddrescue and I think you will agree that GNU ddrescue is superior.
[04:23] <grendal-prime> no crus  you misted the point earlyer,  we tried rsync on windows..it could not deal with the amount of files..or the amount of data...it died..several times.
[04:23] <StepNjump> I can tell you that it heats up much less in ubuntu
[04:23] <grendal-prime> left us hanging...
[04:23] <grendal-prime> with you know what in the wind...
[04:24] <lwizardl> hi
[04:24] <Jordan_U> sphinxxx: Mount a partition that is large enough to hold a full disk image then tell me what the mountpoint is.
[04:24] <ohsix> Jordan_U: i didn't disagree, i was just looking for something that wasn't a red herring
[04:24] <Xion> can i add a app to keyring,,i mean password protected  ?
[04:24] <grendal-prime> i dont know what you do for a living...but what i do is reliably move alot of data round ...and windows does not do it ..if it did i would not have a job
[04:24] <GeForce88> apport on 11.04 is buggy. can't file bug report because it faults out. any ideas how to report the fail ?
[04:24] <lwizardl> can someone help me figure out why when i burn a disc using k3b windows can not mount the discs ? i use linux+windows, an no multi-session
[04:24] <crus> grendal-prime: more then likely, rsync had a hard time dealing with too many files in a single directory, which is a more a problem to do with NTFS rather then rsync..
[04:25] <StepNjump> critical_max: What might help too is to do a sudo pm-powersave true
[04:25] <crus> grendal-prime: and probably more to do with you not understanding the limitations of the file system you were using.
[04:25] <ohsix> GeForce88: "faults out", does apport crash or say that type of crash can't be reported? also, you might try #ubuntu+1
[04:25] <chelz> is firefox 4 going to replace firefox 3.6 in lucid?
[04:25] <StepNjump> critical_max and configure the cache. I used to have a great article on that somewhere..
[04:25] <StepNjump> It sped up the netbook quite a bit
[04:25] <xangua> !fx4 | chelz
[04:25] <critical_max> stepnjump: ssd would also help a ton i bet
[04:26] <critical_max> stepnjump: i always burned through battery by taxing the video card and/or the hard drive
[04:26] <ohsix> lwizardl: did k3b end up creating a udf disk? possibly because of the size of the files you burned? windows generally doesn't do well with udf
[04:26] <chelz> xangua: that tells me how to install it, but not if fx3.6 will be unavailable. i would like to keep fx3.6 if i could.
[04:26] <grendal-prime> cruse..ok..your missing the point..
[04:26] <GeForce88> ohsix, windows pops up says sorry, apport has unexpectantly closed. do you wish to file a bug report blah blah, click to report and system freeses
[04:26] <grendal-prime> you run rsync on a windows machine..what can you conect it to with a large number of files in one dir?
[04:26] <StepNjump> critical_max, yeah
[04:27] <ohsix> GeForce88: peculiar, afaik apport is mostly python, if it were crashing something would be seriously amiss
[04:27] <StepNjump> critical_max, is there a way that you know I could leave you an offline message whilst you are gone so that you can read it when you connect?
[04:27] <StepNjump> on irc
[04:27] <crus> grendal-prime: no, you're missing the point.. rsync is not at fault..
[04:27] <ohsix> grendal-prime: you've been pretty offtopic for a while with this rsync talk
[04:27] <GeForce88> stepnjump send your self a memo via memoserv
[04:27] <critical_max> stepnjump: this channel doesn't disconnect me, should be ok
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> chelz: use the daily ppa, install firefox-4.0 then remove the ppa
[04:28] <crus> ohsix: that's probably my fault as i've been fueling the fire on that one
[04:28] <grendal-prime> crus...i said rsync on windows blows
[04:28] <h3r0> helo
[04:28] <StepNjump> Thanks GeForce88
[04:28] <grendal-prime> you asked me to give yo ureasons why
[04:28] <grendal-prime> i did that
[04:28] <ohsix> no harm no foul, he's been at it since before you said anything
[04:28] <IdleOne> grendal-prime: drop the windows talk and get on topic. Now please.
[04:28] <StepNjump> Ok Critical_max, I shall let you know (battery life)
[04:29] <crus> grendal-prime: No, you told me how everything else sucks/blows, whatever.
[04:29] <chelz> ActionParsnip: oh i mean i'm wondering if the official repos are going to make the choice for users to switch to fx4 from fx3.6, since i don't really care for fx4 atm
[04:29] <IdleOne> !windows
[04:29] <grendal-prime> ok...sorry guys...
[04:29] <zakwilson> Is a Firefox 4 .deb out yet? I googled, but mostly found old info about the beta.
[04:29] <xangua> !fx4 | zakwilson
[04:29] <xangua> ......
[04:29] <grendal-prime> hows this...cruse....i have a dir with 250000 files in it..how would you sugges it move it?
[04:29] <ohsix> i pinned ff4 from natty; that was the awesome
[04:29] <grendal-prime> i move it ...sorry...
[04:29] <zakwilson> Thanks, xangua.
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> chelz: 4 is default in natty
[04:30] <lwizardl> ohsix, nope. settings where write mode auto, verify written data, filesystem linux/unix + windows, not udf
[04:30] <critical_max> xangua: ooh thanks, I didn't know it got released today yet.
[04:30] <chelz> ActionParsnip: is 3.6 available in natty?
[04:30] <lwizardl> whats a level 3 iso level ?
[04:30] <critical_max> stepnjump: thanks, be curious to know the difference if any these days
[04:30] <grendal-prime> next cruse...it needs to go through the internet two another machine..no established tunnel?
[04:31] <lwizardl> ohsix, and generate rock ridge extensions, generate joliet extentions
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> chelz: not sure, I don't use firefox these days
[04:31] <ohsix> lwizardl: well "filesystem linux/unix + windows" sounds like its trying to hide the information you need from you; if you can read it in linux, check the output of dmesg in a terminal to see what the volume is
[04:31] <crus> grendal-prime: 250000 files in 1 folder is poor management to begin with imo.
[04:31] <ohsix> chelz: it isn't available
[04:31] <chelz> that's interesting
[04:31] <grendal-prime> your not asnwering the question and these files are stacking up as we speek
[04:32] <grendal-prime> also they are on a netapps filer
[04:32] <lwizardl> ohsix, ok it reads fine under linux what do i need to do to read the info you was asking about dmesg
[04:32] <ruan> is it normal for a fsck to take 5 seconds?
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> chelz: i guess you could use the archived file from the mozilla page and integrate it
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> ruan: depends on options and size of filesystem being scanned
[04:32] <grendal-prime> bzzzzzt...crus your fired
[04:33] <ruan> because it seemed to do a file check on startup and it took 5 seconds
[04:33] <ohsix> lwizardl: you need not do anything, it just tells you what format the disk is, which might indicate what problems windows would have with it
[04:33] <grendal-prime> hoho?
[04:33] <ruan> i dont know why it did a filecheck though
[04:33] <crus> you want a solution to a problem.. yet the problem is very vague..
[04:33] <chris_osx> should i wait for ubuntu 10.10 coming up with firefox 4 or should i install it manually?
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> chris_osx: up to you
[04:33] <crus> grendal-prime: sorry, im not devoting 100% of my attention to you're stupidity ;)
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> !ff4 | chris_osx
[04:33] <critical_max> oh dear lord, FF4 is just as fast in linux as it is in windows :)
[04:34] <StepNjump> GeForce88, thanks for letting me about memoserv. Didn't know that one. That's awsome
[04:34] <lwizardl> says filesystem isofs
[04:34] <ohsix> netapp is probably a canard; you're totally divulging how sorry the scenario is, but you're totally buying into rsync essentially marginalizing a job that wouldn't exist if not for bad management
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> crus: smooth :)
[04:34] <chris_osx> ActionParsnip: thanks a lot
[04:34] <grendal-prime> i already have the answer because thats what i do..tell people without a clue how to move there 5 metric tone of garbage data from one place to another because there app sucks and as you so put it is poorly planed...but i dont sit on my thumb..i do something about it'
[04:34] <StepNjump> critical_max, yes I shall let you know
[04:34] <crus> ActionParsnip: even with the major spelling issue ;)
[04:34] <StepNjump> I will msg you and if you are not here, I will memoserv you
[04:35] <critical_max> stepnjump: ok thanks
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> crus: i thought it was gramer not speeling ;);)
[04:35] <IdleOne> grendal-prime: Drop this off topic discussion now or I will remove you from the channel.
[04:35] <StepNjump> I will msg you and if you are not here, I will memoserv you critical_max
[04:35] <StepNjump> critical_max. Thanks to u2
[04:35] <IdleOne> crus: you too please. get back on topic.
[04:35] <prime> Hi all - If I want to convince my school IT guys to look at ubuntu, is there a list of reasons somewhere?
[04:35] <crus> ActionParsnip: lets not get technical ;)
[04:35] <crus> IdleOne: no worries
[04:35] <glitchd> ok so i have a script to lauch a server for a game, it works fine if i run it in terminal but i want to assign it to a shortcut on my top panel, but it doesnt launch when i click it?? what am i missing??
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> crus: you just made my night :)
[04:35] <prime> like IT guy advantages?
[04:36] <xangua> prime: prime: ubuntu.com google ¿¿
[04:36] <grendal-prime> IdleOne,  yes sir
[04:36] <grendal-prime> hoho. hows it going?
[04:36] <glitchd> anyone??
[04:36] <ohsix> prime: most of the points in ubuntus favor are linux ones
[04:37] <grendal-prime> you want to talk in a private channel i will gladly explain to you how to move very large amounts of data with very minimal equipment.
[04:37] <critical_max> prime: check SuSE too for school advocacy, SuSE is huge in education
[04:37] <grendal-prime> sometimes these public chats are not good for discussion of details.
[04:37] <prime> ok - so general linux / suse have the same points in favor
[04:37] <prime> as ubuntu
[04:37] <soreau> glitchd: could be an environment issue. alos make sure it is executable
[04:37] <prime> thanks
[04:37] <soreau> also*
[04:38] <critical_max> glitchd: yeah, likely environment. pastebin the script?
[04:38] <superman097> anyone know about mrtg here?
[04:38] <ohsix> superman097: no
[04:38] <glitchd> soreau, i believe it is, when i double click it i get the options on how to run it
[04:38] <glitchd> critical_max, it works if i double click it, i want to put it to a icon shortcut on my top panel
[04:39] <critical_max> prime: suse is a linux distro that targets the educational market (among others) - i've personally seen labs full of SuSE machines at a major university - you are more likely to find advocacy documents in their community IMHO
[04:39] <superman097> mrtg = multi router traffic grapher
[04:39] <critical_max> glitchd: put it in a pastebin
[04:39] <critical_max> !pastebin|glitchd
[04:39] <ruan> glitchd: it needs to run in its working directory, i had the same issue
[04:39] <soreau> glitchd: So you made the shortcut on the panel, did you specify the full path to the script?
[04:39] <ruan> glitchd: a shortcut on the panel could work though
[04:40] <soreau> glitchd: Might need to make the script cd into the proper directory as ruan suggests
[04:40] <glitchd> soreau, yes the full run path is "/home/glitchd/games/minecraft-server/start" and thats in the shortcut also
[04:40] <Stryker> Welcome back glitchd
[04:40] <glitchd> Stryker, thx!
[04:40] <glitchd> been a while since ive been here
[04:41] <glitchd> soreau, ok it all of a sudden decided to work
[04:41] <glitchd> thx anyways guys!!
[04:41] <Stryker> Yeah, I have forgot what I was helping u with b4
[04:41] <grendal-prime> soooo on topic of pulse audio
[04:41] <critical_max> glitchd: good deal
[04:41] <grendal-prime> anyone have an acer?
[04:41] <glitchd> Stryker, yea so did i
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> grendal-prime: did but the wind blew and it fell aprt in my hands
[04:42] <glitchd> adios room!!!
[04:42] <ohsix> i don't follow, pulseaudio -> polling on who owns an acer?
[04:42] <Stryker> cya glitchd
[04:42] <soreau> glitchd: cool
[04:42] <ruan> grendal-prime: my sister used to have one. acer aspire one, the linux that came with it wasn't so usable
[04:42] <grendal-prime> ActionParsnip, you know thats werid allot of people have said they are sort of physically crap but this is the first NON dell machine (because of the contracts i have) that i have bought in 10 years.
[04:43] <grendal-prime> and ive been really happy with it...as far as a mid goes...its the fkn bomb.
[04:43] <superman097> can i ask something about mrtg with ipv6 support here?
[04:44] <grendal-prime> thing runs for 6 hours on a charge....well i mean you know running around and whatnot..thing is the mic is werid..because pulse audio things it is a sterio mic
[04:44] <critical_max> superman097: go ahead, i used mrtg in a former life..
[04:44] <grendal-prime> i have to silence one of the mics for my ipphone apps to work..
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> grendal-prime: its cheap and you get what you pay for, is how I see it
[04:45] <grendal-prime> but when i adjust the volume on the taskbar..it couples them togerther again..
[04:45] <Stryker> mrtg doesn't come up in google, isn't that odd?
[04:46] <Stryker> nvm
[04:46] <grendal-prime> i dont know ActionParsnip has a 4 core atom ...the video is full accelerted, wif..networ...vidoe out..everything workd (cept for the mic) right out of the box..
[04:46] <ohsix> grendal-prime: thats a well known problem, alsa doesn't provide the information to automatically do that for clients, or provide the noise reduction it is intended for
[04:46] <ruan> 4 core atom? lol
[04:46] <grendal-prime> ya werid i know..but its a netbook...with 4 core..
[04:46] <critical_max> stryker: multi router traffic grapher, isn't it
[04:46] <grendal-prime> and ddr3
[04:46] <Stryker> yeah
[04:46] <superman097> yes
[04:46] <ruan> grendal-prime: what model?
[04:46] <grendal-prime> its nice i can run 3 vms on it..
[04:47] <grendal-prime> d255
[04:47] <grendal-prime> and a 250 gig hd
[04:47] <superman097> mrtg = multi router trafic grapher
[04:47] <ohsix> ruan: 2 core, and ht
[04:47] <ruan> ok
[04:47] <Stryker> hey, critical_max did u know u can press tab to autocomplete names?
[04:48] <grendal-prime> i liked it so much i bought a second one...like i say the only thing i cant get to work on it is like...google voice.. cause of the mic.
[04:48] <grendal-prime> and its runnign 10.04
[04:48] <critical_max> Stryker, if I ever knew I'd forgotten.
[04:48] <grendal-prime> beats the hell of of the 3 or 4 dell min 10's we got here.
[04:49] <critical_max> Stryker, I just tab completed in apt-get which makes that funny :)
[04:49] <critical_max> tabbing arguments took me a while to catch on to
[04:49] <grendal-prime> in fact i would ditch my hero phone for this thing if the mic worked decent
[04:49] <ohsix> the mini10 wasn't exactly a show piece
[04:50] <grendal-prime> ya but dude..for 200 bucks it was pretty cool for a mid
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> grendal-prime: grab a usb mic ;)
[04:50] <grendal-prime> and i dont care what anyone says it beats the hell out of a fkn ipunk any day.
[04:50] <ohsix> the mic does work; its just that the 2 channels are out of phase & no software involved knows, or uses it for noise reduction
[04:50] <DrkCodeman> is it possible to run exchange on *nix?
[04:50] <grendal-prime> ActionParsnip, does the same thing
[04:50] <grendal-prime> something about pulse audio..werid
[04:51] <DrkCodeman> pulse audio is crap...
[04:51] <ohsix> it's not just pulseaudio, andything that mixes the streams will do it
[04:51] <grendal-prime> anyway..i dont have to have it working it just makes conf calling allot easyer if i can do it on the same machine i do dev work on.
[04:51] <ohsix> DrkCodeman: qualify your assertions
[04:51] <DrkCodeman> that was the first thing i removed with ubuntu read online threads about pulse audio
[04:52] <ohsix> DrkCodeman: qualify your assertions
[04:52] <grendal-prime> off to work with more kvm stuff.. he ActionParsnip you do any work with kvm and virt-manager?
[04:52] <ohsix> DrkCodeman: so you read something that said it was bad and removed it; and now carry the flag for it, having not even seen for yourself, ok
[04:52] <harovali> how can I ensure the boot process runs /etc/init.d/console-setup ?
[04:53] <critical_max> DrkCodeman: those problems with pulseaudio were in like, 2008 :(
[04:53] <DrkCodeman> Open-Xchange weee
[04:53] <ohsix> grendal-prime: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.alsa.devel/79489
[04:53] <ohsix> critical_max: that is to say, if he were even reading about real problems, people are funny
[04:54] <critical_max> ohsix: well, I definitely had a horrible time with the first distribution upgrade that included pulseaudio, was doing multimedia work with alsa+jack, and got taken for a ride... but it's been fine for years now
[04:54] <grendal-prime> duuuuude...you are the MAN....ok ok...ill mary YOUR UGLY sister for that find!
[04:54] <grendal-prime> i mean..you know...if you still need to marry her off and all...
[04:54] <DrkCodeman> i had a hell of a time with my usb headset with pulse audio
[04:55] <DrkCodeman> in addition to using apps like wine
[04:55] <ohsix> grendal-prime: are you vision or otherwise impaired? it's the first hit on google, these things aren't this amazing
[04:55] <DrkCodeman> my usb headset would cut in some instances very fuzzy (playing wow) through wine
[04:55] <DrkCodeman> changed to alsa worked great
[04:55] <ohsix> DrkCodeman: would you believe all the wine sound output drivers are broken? forsooth, it only shows up when you do nonblocking sound i/o
[04:56] <critical_max> DrkCodeman: if you were running Ventrilo, that's always flaky to the extreme, been there
[04:56] <critical_max> DrkCodeman: there was a Ventrilo-compatible open source project that launched over a year ago, I wonder how far they are
[04:56] <ohsix> that's a wine problem, not a pulse one :\
[04:56] <ohsix> pasuspender is great for that though
[04:56] <grindcrusher> get mangler
[04:56] <critical_max> mangler, that's it
[04:56] <ruan> also, gksudo gstreamer-properties
[04:57] <grindcrusher> it works pretty good
[04:57] <ohsix> ruan: what would that do
[04:57] <ruan> ohsix: changes default plugin for stuff, not sure what exactly
[04:57] <DrkCodeman> i also had problems in native unreal tournament 2003
[04:57] <grindcrusher> connect to ventrillo servers
[04:57] <DrkCodeman> so it wasn't a wine issue
[04:57] <DrkCodeman> btw native ut2k3 was a major pain to install
[04:58] <critical_max> DrkCodeman: probably not worth ripping out stable subsystems like pulseaudio to get 8 year old apps running. :)
[04:58] <ohsix> ruan: it just sets some stuff for gconfsink, if you're not using playbin or something that does, OR gstreamer, it wouldn't do anything
[04:58] <ruan> ohsix: i use gstreamer
[04:59] <grendal-prime> ohsix, well not really...as if i was they would not let me fly the plane anymore...but i will say i was probably being a little to literal in my search criteria..i was looking for this machine specifically
[04:59] <ohsix> DrkCodeman: you wouldn't believe it but lots of software is broken! they assume blocking audio output to rate limit sample delivery; this is not how pulse works (though properly written realtime software will clock its own sample rate and work in both cases)
[04:59] <grendal-prime> i do thank you for the link though..
[05:00] <grendal-prime> even though..it does not support a solution.
[05:00] <DrkCodeman> and is landscape open source?
[05:00] <ohsix> grendal-prime: i was being a little facetious, i searched for alsa stereo mic phase ... which could be inferred from what i had already said, but uses terms of art :[
[05:01] <ohsix> grendal-prime: the solution for a user is ugly manual configuration in cryptic configuration files, alsa should really be handling it
[05:02] <DrkCodeman> Anyone here know about landscape?
[05:03] <ruan> !landscape
[05:03] <DrkCodeman> is it open source?
[05:03] <ruan> well, its on canonical. might as well check
[05:03] <ohsix> i bet that link might have something to say
[05:04] <DrkCodeman> doesnt say much realy
[05:04] <ohsix> afaik not all components are, they run it as a paid service
[05:05] <ruan> yeah it requires an ubuntu advantage account
[05:05] <DrkCodeman> so much for OSI
[05:05] <ruan> http://www.canonical.com/enterprise-services/ubuntu-advantage/landscape
[05:05] <ohsix> DrkCodeman: lawl
[05:05] <DrkCodeman> <3 marketing
[05:06] <ruan> there seems to be a free trial though
[05:08] <DrkCodeman> yeah its a pitty its just another gimmick to get money its a community project yet they are marketing this as a company
[05:08] <ohsix> grendal-prime: theres already some stuff in pulse to work around this apparently, i don't know where to get a new enough version though. ppas or anything
[05:08] <ruan> well they've got to get money somehow
[05:08] <ohsix> DrkCodeman: its a community project insofat as mark shuttleworth started it and the company monetizes it, and has paid contributors
[05:09] <yoga> lejocha2@yahoo.com
[05:09] <ohsix> you can, shockingly, be paid to work on ubuntu
[05:09] <b0tz> Hi, I just got a dell st2220t multitouch touchscreen monitor. It isnt even registering one\two touch input at the moment - just acting as a dual monitor. ive never had a touch screen monitor before so is there anything i should know or do to get this working
[05:09] <DrkCodeman> so ubuntu does not have a OSI license then
[05:10] <ruan> b0tz: there is a driver you need to install for touch screen i believe
[05:10] <b0tz> Any idea what it is
[05:10] <ruan> http://www.bytetips.com/touchscreen-support-ubuntu/
[05:11] <ohsix> DrkCodeman: this isn't really on topic for this channel, "ubuntu" is a trademark, it is also what they call the distro, on install media, and as an assembly of the constituent parts, which all have separate licenses
[05:11] <b0tz> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/chasedouglas/multitouch/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found
[05:11] <b0tz> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/chasedouglas/multitouch/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[05:11] <ruan> hmm
[05:11] <ohsix> DrkCodeman: they do not distribute parts of their commercial infrastructure, but the  parts they do, have a license
[05:11] <b0tz> the repo nto wo rking or what
[05:11] <ruan> got to find a newer one then
[05:12] <b0tz> grr..
[05:12] <ohsix> DrkCodeman: but that still isn't talking about "ubuntu"
[05:13] <chalcedony> how do i find out where 'rbash' is in ubuntu 10.04?
[05:13] <DaPenguin> which
[05:14] <ohsix> chalcedony: dpkg -S rbash, or `which rbash` (latter is faster)
[05:15] <chalcedony> ohsix, ty
[05:16] <b0tz> grr hate working with drivers
[05:16] <b0tz> i figured multitouch\touch support was built in..
[05:17] <ruan> b0tz: drivers are actually built in
[05:17] <b0tz> then why isnt even basic mouse functionality with touchscreen working
[05:17] <evan_> trying to get a texas instruments wifi card to work... i think i found the driver but i can't get it to go
[05:17] <b0tz> there is lik eno documentation on getting this montior to work cause its so new
[05:18] <ohsix> b0tz: is it usb?
[05:18] <ohsix> random google hits aren't documentation :D
[05:18] <b0tz> http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?sku=320-1819&cs=19&c=us&l=en&dgc=CJ&cid=24471&lid=566643&acd=10550055-1727683- this is the link to it
[05:18] <ruan> yeah i tried google and failed
[05:18] <b0tz> its got 1 upstream 3 downstream usb ports
[05:18] <MuhammadTahir> hi every one i got a prob any body will help me ?
[05:19] <MuhammadTahir> i can not update my ubuntu 10.10 which i install yesterday
[05:19] <ohsix> b0tz: lsusb will tell you what the device is, as will dmesg if a driver attaches to it
[05:19] <b0tz> alright
[05:20] <MuhammadTahir> through update manager it states that i hv to download abt 290 mb of updates when i click yes it just slowly download it :(
[05:20] <b0tz> 23.554046] Synaptics Touchpad, model: 1, fw: 6.5, id: 0x1c0b1, caps: 0xa04751/0xa00000/0x0
[05:20] <b0tz> [   23.636941] input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input15
[05:20] <b0tz> thats in dmesg..
[05:21] <MuhammadTahir> in about 6 hours it downloaded about 22 mb
[05:21] <StepNjump> critical_max FYI: it says I still have 3h35m left (I doubt it). Started at 22:20 here MST
[05:22] <ohsix> b0tz: those are internal controllers, not the one in the monitor
[05:22] <b0tz> ah ok figured so, as im connected to a laptop
[05:22] <b0tz> hmm
[05:22] <ohsix> MuhammadTahir: software properties has a thing that will pick faster mirrors for you
[05:23] <MuhammadTahir> i m anew user can u guide me ?
[05:23] <ruan> MuhammadTahir: system> administration> software sources
[05:23] <MuhammadTahir> i searched from google for terminal comands too
[05:23] <MuhammadTahir> but they dnt work
[05:23] <MuhammadTahir> thx let me check
[05:23] <ohsix> if you want to run it from a terminal: sudo software-properties-gtk
[05:24] <Jordan_U> !gksudo | ohsix
[05:24] <ohsix> ruan: thats gone in newer versions btw, software center has the extra/multiverse/what have you in it now
[05:24] <ohsix> Jordan_U: caring not, though i've read it before
[05:25] <ruan> newer versions? like 11.04?
[05:25] <ohsix> i use sudo -s and run stuff from there
[05:25] <ruan> because im on the latest 10.10
[05:25] <ohsix> ruan: yep
[05:25] <b0tz> just tried hdmi and vga, both same problem
[05:25] <ruan> gtg.
[05:25] <Jordan_U> ohsix: You should care about it, especially when helping others. It's not nice to knowingly give advice that could cause a user to no longer be able to login.
[05:25] <ohsix> ruan: it might not even be there in 10.10 if it's not an upgrade
[05:26] <b0tz> should I try hooking it up via usb too, or what
[05:26] <ohsix> Jordan_U: when that happens i'll make a note of it
[05:26] <ohsix> b0tz: usb would be how the touch controller connects, yes
[05:26] <b0tz> alright..
[05:26] <nickals> <3 FUCK LIFE IS GOOD!!!!! LIVE IT UP, NO WORRIES. WE ALL GONNA DIE SOONER OR LATER LIVE LIFE WITH NO REGRETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <3
[05:26] <Xion> guys i want to add an aplication to keyring,
[05:27] <Jordan_U> !language | nickals
[05:27] <Jordan_U> !topic | nickals
[05:27] <Jordan_U> !ot | nickals
[05:27] <grendal-prime> ActionParsnip, amazon has an apps store now
[05:27] <grendal-prime> hehehe
[05:27] <nickals> haha sorry guys
[05:28] <nickals> just expressing my love <3
[05:28] <Xion> i will like to block apps with password
[05:28] <grendal-prime> my chinese mid can get apps now..well i mean for longer than the hour before google realizes its a non approved device
[05:28] <ohsix> Jordan_U: without ssh involved, which tries to handle your credentials; you won't have a problem
[05:28] <MuhammadTahir> thx it worked
[05:29] <MuhammadTahir> one more thing \
[05:29] <ohsix> Jordan_U: it goes without saying that as root, any file can be changed to be owned by root; so ones that deal with your users credentials is bad news
[05:29] <Jordan_U> ohsix: It is something I have to help users with often, and I am sure that there are many more that can't even ask for help as they can't ask for help when they can't login to GNOME. Please don't suggest that people use sudo with graphical apps.
[05:29] <pinoyoragon> It seems my swap is not mounted, "The disk drive for /dev/mapper/ubuntu10-swap_1 is not ready yet or not present". What shld i do?
[05:29] <nickals> Jordan_U, sorry bout that, im just in an un-deniably good mood. that was an AMSG to a bunch of gaming channels, sometimes i forget about freenode.
[05:29] <MuhammadTahir> whenever and whatever i try to install through ubuntu software centre it installs too slowly
[05:29] <bazhang> nickals, chat elsewhere
[05:29] <ohsix> Jordan_U: give me one scenario
[05:29] <MuhammadTahir> as from the last 20 minutes i m installing Vlc
[05:30] <nickals> bazhang, read my last message to Jordan_U
[05:30] <Xion> is there any aplication that block my apps with password ?
[05:30] <ohsix> Jordan_U: not forgetting that i, myself; have some idea about which files are touched by what i'm running, whereas a user may not
[05:30] <sacarlson> Xion: just move the app to the /usr/sbin dir
[05:31] <pinoyoragon> SWAP Problem (maverick): It seems my swap is not mounted, "The disk drive for /dev/mapper/ubuntu10-swap_1 is not ready yet or not present". What shld i do?
[05:31] <Jordan_U> ohsix: Do you at least agree that users that do not know which apps are going to touch ~/.Xauthority should as a rule use gksudo with graphical apps?
[05:32] <ohsix> Jordan_U: yes, but not as instructions from myself, and ssh isn't unique in that regard, but it's close
[05:33] <ohsix> sudo chown root:root ~/.ICEauthority is also ill advised
[05:33] <Xion> sacarlson:) what u mean move the app ?  installed there ?
[05:33] <myrmidette> can anyone walk me through setting up video streaming from ushare to xbox 360?
[05:34] <sacarlson> Xion: just mv /usr/bin/app /usr/sbin/app   then it will require a sudo and password to run
[05:34] <wizardken> myrmidette, it's in slackbook
[05:34] <ohsix> Jordan_U: software-properties-gtk is basically just an applet for synaptic to handle software sources, it doesn't touch any credentials
[05:34] <myrmidette> wizardken, link?
[05:34] <ohsix> point taken however
[05:35] <ohsix> (for the third time :)
[05:35] <sacarlson> Xion: if you are creating an app deb then install it in /usr/sbin in your deb control file
[05:35] <MuhammadTahir> ohsix i m waiting
[05:36] <Xion> sacarlson:) im not creating apps,,i want to password protect come apps
[05:36] <Jordan_U> ohsix: Please then either add a note explaining that users should only use sudo with the specific graphical application you are mentioning, or use gksudo in your examples to other users. People do what they see, and what is recommended to them, and unless told otherwise it's perfectly reasonable for them to (mistakenly) expect that if sudo can be used with some graphical apps it can be used with others safely as well.
[05:36] <dualcore> i need help with postfix
[05:36] <wizardken> i686 true 64 bit and i86_64 just an addon to 34 bit ?
[05:36] <DrkCodeman> ubuntu going to run smooth with socket r in a addition to the new 8 core amd bulldozer?
[05:36] <sacarlson> xion: well that would be one method I'm sure there are 100 more ways to do it
[05:36] <ohsix> Jordan_U: it wouldn't be a whitelist, but a blacklist, there are few scenarios where your credentials are replaced
[05:37] <ferlicjl> Can someone help me with Wireless Connections?
[05:37] <ohsix> wizardken: i686 is the p6, the first pentiums & pentium pros ;] no 64bit there
[05:37] <MuhammadTahir> ubuntu software centre is taking much longer is it normal ?
[05:37] <Jordan_U> ohsix: Then please include said blacklist in any comments to users where you suggest using sudo with a graphical app. Or, more reasonably, suggest the use of gksudo instead.
[05:38] <MuhammadTahir> i m installing vlc and it is too much slow
[05:38] <dualcore> MuhammadTahir: do you have any other downloads going?
[05:38] <MuhammadTahir> no nothning else
[05:38] <wizardken> ohsix, oic thanks
[05:39] <ohsix> Jordan_U: i make no suggestions, if it comes to be something that is likely to modify a file that will make logging in, or anything like it; difficult, i'll defer to gksudo or find a better way to do it
[05:39] <ajin> hey guys
[05:39] <sacarlson> xion: and here is another way http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=491111
[05:39] <ajin> howdy
[05:39] <Xion> sacarlson:) i just moved acetone iso to try and it did not promt me for password when i execute
[05:39] <Jordan_U> ohsix: This is an official policy of #ubuntu, if you'd like to discuss it further please join #ubuntu-ops.
[05:39] <MuhammadTahir> just played a song from youtube and nothing else
[05:39] <dualcore> how large is the application you're installing and what is your bandwidth?
[05:40] <sacarlson> xion: if that user is sudo and you have accessed sudo in the last pretimeout then that would be the case
[05:40] <MuhammadTahir> its 20.7 mb and my conection is 1 mb
[05:40] <MuhammadTahir> but usually i can download much faster than that
[05:41] <sacarlson> xion: and iso is not an application it is a file that is read by an app so ?
[05:41] <MuhammadTahir> in abt 30 to 35 minutes its about 20 % done
[05:41] <Xion> sacarlson:) yes i use sudo to open nautilus,i mean gksu
[05:41] <dualcore> MuhammadTahir: are there other computers on the network downloading?
[05:41] <ohsix> Jordan_U: one contrived and avoidable situation doesn't really convince, and practically speaking i can almost assure you that it will never come up in a scenario where i am assisting someone
[05:41] <MuhammadTahir> no
[05:42] <sacarlson> xion: so you want even a sudo user to have to add a password?
[05:42] <MuhammadTahir> i have my own line
[05:42] <Jordan_U> ohsix: This is an official policy of #ubuntu, if you'd like to discuss it further please join #ubuntu-ops.
[05:42] <Xion> sacarlson:) acetoneiso is a app
[05:42] <Xion> yes
[05:42] <Xion> sacarlson:) i dont have user on my computer,but i share it sometimes
[05:42] <sacarlson> xion: then you should modify your sudoer file so that this sudo user must add a password or not access at all
[05:42] <MuhammadTahir> if i try to download directly or through torent any thing i can download 20 mb in about 1 to 2 minutes
[05:43] <sacarlson> xion: if it's ubuntu it must have a user to operate
[05:44] <Xion> sacarlson:) yes just me,
[05:44] <MuhammadTahir> the same problem with update manager yesterday in 6 hours it downloaded only about 22 or some mb
[05:44] <dualcore> MuhammadTahir: whats your bandwidth http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
[05:44] <sacarlson> xion: but you run as sudo all the time?
[05:44] <ohsix> Jordan_U: this is a "what i will ever say in the future" policy, it's none of your business, you can tell people the perils of messing with your credentialss as root, not me; i don't suspect anyone but the strictest of cargo cult to just run everything with sudo either, the ssh thing is as contrived as it gets, and ssh could/should see who owns those credentials before it copies them
[05:45] <play> lastest ubuntu 11.04 alpha stable enough to use? itching to upgrade. (thanks for any feedback)
[05:45] <Xion> sacarlson:) i think so,i just use sudo at terminal
[05:45] <MuhammadTahir> its .81 mbps
[05:45] <ohsix> Jordan_U: note: you'd need to do "sudo ssh -X" for this to happen
[05:45] <sacarlson> xion: well if you don't need sudo don't use it
[05:45] <ohsix> Jordan_U: not ssh root@ -X
[05:45] <bazhang> play, #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support
[05:45] <play> ah, thanks for the tip @ bazhang
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> play: works ok here, i'd ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:46] <ohsix> Jordan_U: its up to the reader to decide of sudo ssh is more correct than ssh root@
[05:46] <Starminn> How do I change the icon of a file?
[05:46] <ohsix> bbiab
[05:46] <Jordan_U> ohsix: This channel has guidelines, If you refuse to follow them I will have to remove you from the channel. I really don't want or expect it to come to that.
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: right click it -> properties then then click the icon and change it
[05:46] <bazhang> Starminn, right click choose a new one or get a new theme set
[05:46] <Xion> sacarlson:) so theres nothing i can change in users and groups to block myself from som apps ?
[05:46] <sacarlson> xion: maybe you should just move all the stuf you normaly run out of /usr/sbin and put them in /usr/bin so that you almost never need sudo?  then it will ask for a password when you really want it to
[05:47] <ohsix> Jordan_U: i suspect you'll be informing me every time i make a faux pa, i'm confident even. as this isn't the first time, so all is well
[05:47] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: Wow. Did not know that the image was actually a clickable button. :) Thanks.
[05:47] <sacarlson> xion: sure there is but you keep bypassing it so what's the point
[05:47] <DrkCodeman> ohsix: is ubuntu going to be able to handle 128bit architecture?
[05:48] <ohsix> DrkCodeman: that wont be ubuntu, and it won't be for 20 years, it's useless to speculate
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: yeah man, works all over the place (really good for removable devices appearing on the deskto ;))
[05:48] <ohsix> linux already has some targets with vliw, but not with huge address spaces
[05:48] <DrkCodeman> ohsix: its already here... look up the new amd bulldozer...
[05:48] <sacarlson> xion: you can make add another user called superduperuser and give him full rights and make your present user only access without a password what you want to normaly run without a password
[05:48] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: Good idea. :) Although my removables don't appear on my Desktop, but duely noted. :) Never would have thought to click on the image.
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> DrkCodeman: as long as the kernel is compiled to use the addressing and any features in the CPU then sure
[05:48] <ohsix> DrkCodeman: i have a bridge for sale
[05:49] <ohsix> its best not to conflate the instruction size with the possible address space size
[05:49] <Xion> sacarlson:) so i need to open a gksu nautilus and move all from /usr/sbin  to usr/bin and notjing happend to the system?
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: when I connect my phone, my phone appears on my desktop. I also got a pic of an my exact SD card which appears when I plug it in
[05:49] <ohsix> even 32bit processors can have 40+ bits of address space
[05:49] <sacarlson> xion: all?  I thought it was just one app?
[05:49] <Jordan_U> ohsix: Please join #ubuntu-ops.
[05:50] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: Nice. Good idea. :)
[05:50] <sacarlson> xion: no you only need to change your /etc/sudoer file
[05:50] <DrkCodeman> memory limitation
[05:50] <MuhammadTahir> sualcore any ideas ?
[05:51] <MuhammadTahir> dualcore ***
[05:51] <sacarlson> xion: I assume the apps you want to limit are aleady in /usr/sbin
[05:51] <ohsix> crap, you can't drag things onto icons in the panel anymore in natty
[05:52] <ViciousPlant> join ##politics
[05:52] <Andy-at-home> guys, how to compress everything in the current directory (and sub directories) in to a tar?
[05:52] <ohsix> LOL if you drag it over an app in the taskbar it doesn't switch either, it adds a button next to it
[05:52] <Andy-at-home> tar cvfz mytarfile.tgz *?
[05:52] <Starminn> ohhsix: Offtopic and/or #ubuntu+1
[05:52] <DrkCodeman> ohsix: one last thing is there a chance i can market ubuntu as a free alternative to windows to my customers at my local computers store?
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> Andy-at-home: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-do-i-compress-a-whole-linux-or-unix-directory/
[05:52] <sacarlson> xion: in sudo you can limit a user to only be able to run a single app or a group of apps with or without a password
[05:53] <ohsix> DrkCodeman: is there? i have no idea
[05:53] <play> andy, you can up up a level and right click the folder -> in menu select compress -> select your options -> all set
[05:53] <DrkCodeman> ohsix: dont you personaly work for ubuntu?
[05:53] <play> ah nm, you wanted the terminal command
[05:53] <eamon> WHat kind of RAM should I get? http://dpaste.de/tq5w/
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> eamon: ask in ##hardware  this is ubuntu support only
[05:54] <eamon> DDR or something is it?
[05:54] <Andy-at-home> file paths seems to be kept when I try
[05:54] <eamon> ok ty ActionParsnip
[05:55] <Xion> sacarlson:) maby i want to blocl all aps thet use internet like browsers etc,i have a young boy here looking for action online,,if u know what i mean :)
[05:55] <ohsix> DrkCodeman: no, and i don't work with/for your business either; so i can't say
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> eamon: its offtopic here
[05:56] <eamon> ActionParsnip: ok ty
[05:56] <ac7ss> Xion: you can make a hosts file to block all web to those sites.
[05:56] <ohsix> you can use a proxy & whitelisting too
[05:57] <sacarlson> xion: just read the link then and it gives a good example of how to create a group http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=491111
[05:57] <Xion> ac7ss:) i whant to block the internet app like mozilla,opera,chonium etc
[05:57] <ohsix> but if you just want to block the internet, lock down networkmanager & have no profiles to connect with
[05:57] <ac7ss> Xion: or you could make a WEB group and make the browser programs group WEB and permission 550.
[05:57] <sacarlson> xion: and give the boy his own user name and password
[05:58] <ac7ss> Xion: and make sure he is not in the WEB group
[05:58] <sacarlson> ac7ss: xion: that sounds like it would work to me
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> Xion: you can setup a proxy and setup filters for selected content
[05:59] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: xion: true you wouldn't want to totaly cut off internet access so this might be better
[05:59] <ohsix> lets not forget that gnome has its own restrictions management
[06:02] <ac7ss> Is there an easy way to tell if a program is the only copy of itself running?
[06:02] <ac7ss> Shell.
[06:02] <ohsix> not really
[06:02] <Flynn> ac7ss: what do you mean exactly??
[06:03] <ohsix> theres pgrep and other tools that do something like it, that'll search all processes to see if they're running, but most apps that want to run only once have exclusive pid files
[06:03] <DrkCodeman> ps aux?
[06:03] <Jordan_U> ac7ss: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/045
[06:03] <ac7ss> Flynn: I have a script that I want to make sure it is the only copy running. If it finds another copy, it exits.
[06:03] <sacarlson> ac7ss: I wrote a script that checked if a program was already running before it ran, is that what you want?
[06:03] <Flynn> ac7ss: sudo ps -eF          sudo top -c          sudo gnome-system-monitor
[06:03] <DrkCodeman> top is good :)\
[06:03] <Flynn> ac7ss: sudo ps -eF | grep -i "File Name"
[06:04] <sevith> *** stack smashing detected ***: ./a.out terminated
[06:04] <sevith> Ubuntu 10.10
[06:04] <ac7ss> sacarlson: Yes, I currently use ps -A|grep SCRIPTNAME| wc -l
[06:04] <glitchd> ok so i need some help again please
[06:04] <ohsix> ac7ss: touch a file that exists only when it's running, and remove it when it's killed; then trying to start it again will find the file there and not start
[06:04] <Flynn> sevith: what's the a.out file?
[06:05] <ohsix> and put the pid in that file so you can check and see if it's really actually still running (so you can clean up if it isn't)
[06:05] <sevith> Flynn, Its just a simple overflow but ubuntu wont let me run it....:/
[06:05] <sacarlson> ac7ss: I think I use this if [ "$(pidof openvpn)" ]
[06:05] <ac7ss> ohsix: I want it to be foolproof. (Don't want to loose it on a bad reboot.)
[06:05] <glitchd> i lost color on my desktop, the top panel icons are in color but anything on the desktop is in black and white-monochrome
[06:05] <ohsix> that's what the pid is for
[06:05] <sevith> Flynn, You know whats stopping it?
[06:05] <Flynn> sevith: chmod +x the file??
[06:06] <ohsix> if you want it to start as its own user and only once like a regular service, it's more involved but you can do that too
[06:06] <Flynn> sevith: secondly how are you trying to run it?  sh ./File name   or    ./filename   ...after chmod'ing it?
[06:06] <Andy-at-home> how do I compress everything in the current directory without taking the full filepath? when I extract the tar i get the structure from the old /var/www/currentdirectory/subdirectories instead of allfile/subdirectories
[06:06] <sacarlson> ac7ss: yes that's what I wanted also since for some reason the app didn't always start so I had a cron check it every hour and at boot
[06:06] <sevith> Flynn, chmod didnt help ./filename is how i am running it
[06:06] <ohsix> Andy-at-home: cd /thatdirectory tar cf file.tar .
[06:07] <Loshki> ac7ss: locking code is full of gotchas for the unwary. Follow Jordan_U's link above...
[06:07] <sevith> Flynn, Its a c application
[06:07] <Andy-at-home> thanks
[06:07] <Flynn> sevith: hmm i'm not to experienced in C
[06:07] <sevith> Flynn, Do you know if ubuntu has stack protection
[06:08] <Flynn> sevith: I'm usually on Arch but I try to help Ubuntu'ers but I'm not too sure
[06:08] <Dannyd> hi, im trying to add an icon to the panel, but the application only works well when run as root, I tried "command : sudo <appname>", but now it dosent launch....can someone tell me how I can do that?
[06:08] <ohsix> sevith: that's up to the loader/c library and NX support, which i believe is all in place, including address layout randomization
[06:08] <glitchd> anyone have any clue how to get my desktop back in color??
[06:09] <Flynn> Dannyd: use the command if it's a gui app:   gksudo file-name
[06:09] <Andy-at-home> tar cf myfile.tar not working
[06:09] <Flynn> sorry
[06:09] <Jordan_U> ac7ss: You can also use run-one and run-only one as explained here: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/02/introducing-run-one-and-run-this-one.html
[06:09] <Flynn> Dannyd: gksudo program-name
[06:09] <Andy-at-home> or tar cf myfile.tar .
[06:09] <ohsix> Andy-at-home: that trailing dot is important, it's the directory to archive, and it means "this directory"
[06:09] <ac7ss> I was trying to do it within the script.
[06:09] <ohsix> Andy-at-home: you might want to make it cvf, so it shows progress
[06:09] <dbm> any1 know how to get 'Mask' like this ubuntu/member/
[06:09] <dbm> ?
[06:10] <Loshki> sevith: http://cboard.cprogramming.com/c-programming/88842-***-stack-smashing-detected-***.html
[06:10] <sacarlson> Andy-at-home: taring a tar file?  try man tar   I think it's tar -x  or just use nautilus with fileroller
[06:10] <Andy-at-home> weird, the cvf was it
[06:10] <Flynn> Ubuntu-related:  Just saw Ubuntu being used in Tron Legacy...awesome
[06:10] <sevith> Loshki, thx
[06:10] <sevith> ohsix, thx
[06:10] <Dannyd> wow Flynn: you are a genious..thats exactly what I was trying to do..thanks a lot..
[06:10] <Silentcrow> hello
[06:10] <sevith> Flynn, thx
[06:10] <sevith> i got it ;)
[06:11] <Flynn> Dannyd: no problem
[06:11] <ac7ss> Flynn: Did you notice the Ubuntu logo on the character's forehead?
[06:11] <Flynn> Dannyd: gksudo is using admin permissions on gui's.  sudo program-name   isn't right
[06:11] <Silentcrow> hello
[06:11] <Besogon> Andy-at-home: HOw have you done it?
[06:12] <Flynn> ac7ss: i don't think that's ubuntu's logo, it looks sortof like it but it's not it
[06:12] <Andy-at-home> it was tar cvf myfile.tar .
[06:12] <Flynn> ac7ss: but yes i thought the same
[06:12] <sacarlson> Andy-at-home: that creates  a tar of a tar file
[06:12] <ac7ss> Flynn: looks close enough.
[06:12] <Andy-at-home> 6am here
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> Andy-at-home: same here (UK)
[06:13] <Andy-at-home> now imagine you cant do the simplest of task
[06:13] <Andy-at-home> ...
[06:13] <sacarlson> Andy-at-home: I'm still fresh just had my coffee after just waking up 2 hours ago
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> Andy-at-home: I'm at work so I gotta do some fairly taxing stuff ;)
[06:13] <Andy-at-home> no coffee and the smokes arent helping keep my rage down
[06:14] <Andy-at-home> so how do I compress a directory with all its files and subdirectories and so it doesnt keep its file structure?
[06:14] <boomtnt> hey, can anyone help me with patching chipset ipw2200 for injecting with aircrack?
[06:14] <Flynn> here's a weird question I've always had...why is Ubuntu-er's often talk about coffee or beans?
[06:15] <ac7ss> Andy-at-home: Keep files and loose file structure?
[06:15] <Flynn> boomtnt: your going to want to go to backtrack
[06:15] <Flynn> boomtnt: your going to want to go to backtrack's irc channel
[06:15] <Andy-at-home> i need to go before I say something we will all regret
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> Flynn: coffee keeps you awake when you REALLY wanna crack something and its late
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> !patch | boomtnt
[06:17] <glitchd> anyone know of a setting in ubuntu 10.04 that would make my only my desktop display in b/w??
[06:17] <Flynn> ActionParsnip: I've never had a problem when I am in a shell.  I often have to force myself away.
[06:18] <play> glitchd, does the error persist on system restart?
[06:18] <glitchd> play, yes
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> Flynn: its like coffee in an office environment I guess
[06:18] <glitchd> play, i have had this problem before, i just dont remember how i fixed it last time
[06:18] <ac7ss> Andy-at-home: to keep everything 'tar -c /DIRECTORY |gz >archive.gz' Does that sound right?
[06:18] <Flynn> ActionParsnip: i guess
[06:18] <sacarlson> Andy-at-home:  cd /path/to/dir/to/compress; tar cvf filename.tar .
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> glitchd: press CTRL+ALT+F2 and run: metacity --replace
[06:19] <sacarlson> Andy-at-home: don't forget the "." at the end
[06:19] <Besogon> Andy-at-home: Found it
[06:19] <Andy-at-home> I done that and someone said that was wrong
[06:19] <glitchd> ActionParsnip, bam, brand new. thank you.
[06:19] <Besogon> Andy-at-home: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/716226
[06:19] <ac7ss> Andy-at-home  sacarlson: that's right.
[06:19] <Flynn> Andy-at-home: metacity replace will be for your window decorator
[06:19] <Andy-at-home> [06:12] sacarlson: Andy-at-home: that creates  a tar of a tar file
[06:20] <Andy-at-home> are you trying to screw with me?
[06:20] <Besogon> Andy-at-home: you can use '--wildcards' option with 'exclude' options too
[06:20] <Flynn> Andy-at-home: wrong person sorry
[06:20] <Andy-at-home> dunno how its take more than 5 seconds to find this
[06:21] <ac7ss> andy-at-home: to compress the tar file you can use gz
[06:21] <Flynn> I got to say I'm loving emacs -nw in ubuntu just a little
[06:21] <ohsix> you can also add z olol
[06:21] <ohsix> czvf
[06:21] <sacarlson> Andy-at-home: yes that might cause recusion so maybe beter to be one dir back of where you start.  tar cvf tarfile.tar ./path/to/compress
[06:21] <ohsix> but by the time you're throwing this many letters around, it's probably best to read the manual
[06:21] <ac7ss> andy-at-home: add a z to the cvf 'czvf'
[06:21] <administrator> hello
[06:22] <wizardken> any books guides on hardware?
[06:22] <wizardken> like how they work etc
[06:22] <ohsix> wikipedia :D
[06:22] <ac7ss> scarlson: I don't think tar compresses without the z option.
[06:22] <Flynn> Andy-at-home: your trying to extract a compressed file??  if you have a gui running, why not a little good oh' right clicking?
[06:22] <boomtnt> is there a different between cvf and czvf?
[06:22] <ohsix> boota2: it compresses the output with gzip when z is in there
[06:22] <Besogon> Andy-at-home: tar don't compress files actually. It make only a 'container' for them/ No compress files you should use filters gnuzip for example
[06:23] <Flynn> boomtnt: z is another argument added to the equation
[06:23] <Andy-at-home> thanks all, ill figure it out
[06:23]  * ac7ss loves pipes ||
[06:26] <natet> I'm having a problem setting up dual booting on my computer.
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> wizardken: i'd ask in ##hardware
[06:26] <wizardken> thanks
[06:26] <natet> I had a windows 7 install on /dev/sdb, and installed ubuntu on /dev/sda
[06:26] <natet> Grub doesn't see the windows partition.
[06:27] <sacarlson> ac7ss: true I like z that's what I normally use, and I tested it just now and I can do it with tar cvzf backup.gz .  from within the dir seems to still work with the "." at the end
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> natet: try: sudo apt-get -y install os-prober; sudo os-prober; sudo update-grub
[06:27] <dpn`> howdy, anyone know why commands like <super>s wouldn't be working for me in compiz?
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> dpn`: its not defined as a shortcut in any of your active plugins
[06:28] <dpn`> ActionParsnip, well actually super-s does something weird with the shutdown button in lynx... so i changed it to super-x in my plugin and it still isn't working :(
[06:28] <Flynn> natet: gparted is great for partitioning while dualbooting in my experience the easy way.  grub will have to be fixed if installing windows on a already linux machine
[06:28] <Besogon> dpn`: you can tune compize for your taste
[06:28] <natet> No love.
[06:28] <dpn`> Well i've set up the keyboard shortcut and it's not working :)
[06:28] <natet> Flynn: Windows was installed first.
[06:28] <natet> os-prober was already installed.
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> natet: does it show windows in the final output?
[06:29] <natet> nope
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> natet: thats why I used ; instead of &&
[06:29] <Besogon> natet: May be you just haven't got Windows bootloader now
[06:29] <natet> Bootloader should still exist on /dev/sdb
[06:31] <ac7ss> is there an easy way to loop a command on the shell? (without writing a script that is.)
[06:31] <nikkii> if i install micro-httpd then i don't need apache?\
[06:31] <Murphant> Hi, I'm having trouble setting my default screen resolution in ubuntu 10.4 x64, I tried using nvidia x-server settings with sudo but it still won't work
[06:32] <nimrod[A]> ö.ö
[06:32] <nimrod[A]> anyone home?
[06:32] <nimrod[A]> :P
[06:32] <Flynn> hi
[06:32] <nimrod[A]> hello
[06:32] <nimrod[A]> :)
[06:32] <ac7ss> Nimrod[a]: no
[06:32] <sacarlson> ac7ss: depends maybe with find -exec
[06:32] <nimrod[A]> k
[06:32] <bazhang> nimrod[A], ubuntu support question?
[06:32] <nimrod[A]> yup
[06:32] <nimrod[A]> i have this pretty old computer
[06:32] <Flynn> ac7ss: what was the question??
[06:33] <nimrod[A]> and it refuses to boot any distro of ubuntu
[06:33] <bazhang> nimrod[A], on a single line please
[06:33] <Flynn> ac7ss: i'm good with find
[06:33] <nimrod[A]> wont even go to grub
[06:33] <nimrod[A]> oh
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> natet: is the windows partition currently mounted?
[06:33] <nimrod[A]> sorry :s
[06:33] <bazhang> nimrod[A], what are the specs of said computer
[06:33] <critical_max> ac7ss, you can do a "1-liner"
[06:33] <ac7ss> Flynn sacarlson: just trying to command line a loop 'echo Ping; sleep 30'
[06:34] <natet> ActionParsnip: it wasn't, but I mounted it and re-ran the os-prober and update-grub and still no dice.
[06:34] <critical_max> ac7ss:   for i in `cat myfile.txt`; do echo $i; done
[06:34] <critical_max> no script file needed
[06:34] <sacarlson> ac7ss: ping will loop and you can provide the time interval
[06:34] <critical_max> ac7ss: tell us more about what kind of loop you need though
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> natet: worth a shot
[06:35] <ac7ss> critical_max. thats pretty much it. I just want to repeat a command.
[06:35] <sacarlson> ac7ss: ping -i 30 google.com
[06:35] <natet> ActionParsnip: Yeah.  I've been trying every half baked thing I could find in the forums.
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> natet: thats all I know about gub (I don't dual boot so have zero issues with grub). Maybe others can contribute
[06:35] <nimrod[A]> (bazhang): would it be ok if i pasted a link to the specifications?
[06:35] <samuel__> hey everyone , i would like to delete an nfts partition from my hdd and reformat it to ext. i have downloaded gparted, but unsure in how to do this ?
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: could add:  -c 4     to that too ;)
[06:36] <bazhang> nimrod[A], paste.ubuntu.com please if more than a single line
[06:36] <nimrod[A]> ok
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> samuel__: ubuntu can do that on its own
[06:36] <critical_max> ac7ss: knowing more about what you're repeating would help specifically. There's also "watch [command]" to play with
[06:36] <ac7ss> sacarlson: not actually pinging.
[06:36] <sacarlson> ac7ss: ActionParsnip: yes you can have it time out after a count -c
[06:36] <natet> ActionParsnip: this is the first time I've had a problem dual booting.
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> samuel__: you don't need to download anything special
[06:36] <critical_max> ac7ss: the use cases do vary a bit based on what you're running, not all apps will accept the same jiggery
[06:36] <samuel__> actionparsnip: Then how do i do this ?
[06:37] <sacarlson> ac7ss: not actually pinging?  be more specific
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> samuel__: under system you will see gparted. As long as the ntfs partition is unmounted, you can do what you like with it
[06:37] <mungo-> metacity --replace doesn't work for me
[06:37] <ac7ss> 'cpufreq-info -c1|grep 'governor"'|sed 's/.* "//;s/".*//
[06:38] <critical_max> ac7ss: try "watch 10 'yourbigstringofcommands' "
[06:38] <ac7ss> is that more specific?
[06:38] <critical_max> ac7ss: yes that helps :)
[06:38] <critical_max> ac7ss: watch should probably cover that
[06:38] <samuel__> actionparsnip: alright , gparted is open , selected the hdd, now do i just right click and unmount my nfts partition ?
[06:38] <sacarlson> ac7ss: closer and you want to loop on what value?
[06:39] <ac7ss> I just want to repeat it after a ';sleep'
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> samuel__: yes, when you delete the partition it will destroy the data so make sure you have copied off all you need
[06:39] <Besogon> natet: Something that may help
[06:39] <hid3> Hello everyone. Any ideas how can I get my soundcard working? I lspci show this: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller
[06:39] <natet> Besogon: Yes?
[06:40] <Kimmen> hid3: what does aplay -l give?
[06:40] <critical_max> ac7ss: while 1; do sleep 5s; watch [command]; done
[06:40] <sacarlson> ac7ss: in the time it took to ask you could have wrote the script
[06:40] <samuel__> Actionparsnip: ok , i have unmounted , should i delete it , or just "format to"
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> samuel__: indeed
[06:40] <critical_max> ac7ss, i couldn't get your pipe chain to run but try fleshing it out inside a 1-liner like the one I just pasted
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> hid3: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[06:41] <nimrod[A]> (bazhang):
[06:41] <nimrod[A]> http://paste.ubuntu.com/584156/
[06:41] <hid3> Kimmen: it gives this: aplay: device_list:207: no soundcards found...
[06:41] <critical_max> ac7ss: wait a second, i've got mixed up :P just put your command in... or just run it with "watch" without the loop surrounding, watch automatically sleeps
[06:41] <nimrod[A]> the pc is kind of outdated which is why i want to put ubuntu on it
[06:41] <dpn`> ActionParsnip, FWIW i needed to restart compiz after installing plugins
[06:41] <hid3> ActionParsnip: here's the output: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=a4fac105c4c158727de03997ce2dcaf1408a040a
[06:41] <critical_max> so either "while 1; do sleep 5s; [command]; done"   OR   "watch [command]"
[06:42] <samuel__> actionparsnip: alright .. formatting now :) thanks :)
[06:42] <critical_max> ac7ss: ^
[06:42] <ac7ss> Got it with a while : ;do ..... ;done
[06:42] <critical_max> beautiful
[06:42] <ac7ss> thx.
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> dpn`: not something I use, causes too many headaches
[06:42] <critical_max> if you need to step through a text file to control a loop like that, use "for i in `cat textfile`; do stuff; done"
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> hid3: debian isn't supported here
[06:43] <critical_max> ac7ss: those few bits of glue will get you FAR :)
[06:43] <ac7ss> sacarlson: the point was to learn how. (I need monitors often for different things. just one shots.)
[06:43] <hid3> ActionParsnip: actually I have three identical PCs, two with Maverick and one with Debian/Squeeze. All have same problem... :(
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> hid3: can you run the script on the ubuntu systems and give the link generated please
[06:44] <the_5th_wheel> Howdy. I just upgraded from 8.04 to 10.04 By means of a fresh install. I use LTSP. And the upgraded terminals seem much slower. I noticed that my ltsp images arelike 600mb. Is that normal? It seems overly large
[06:44] <samuel__> actionparsnip: ok i have formatted it , now do i have to mount it again to see it in "my computer" ?
[06:44] <critical_max> ac7ss: one more caution: you should usually build your loop with "echo" to show your intended command strings, before letting it loose
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> samuel__: it should appear in the places menu, if you add it in /etc/fstab it will mount at boot
[06:44] <hid3> ActionParsnip: just a minute
[06:45] <critical_max> ac7ss: ex. while 1; do echo "rm -rf allmystuff"; done     will keep you safer before running the actual command...
[06:45] <critical_max> ac7ss: kind of a debugging method i guess
[06:45] <ohsix> theres also saferm, which will change rm to an alternative that will do extra checking of paths
[06:46] <critical_max> ohsix: i think he's just parsing cpufreq-info output
[06:46] <ac7ss> critical_max: too many quotes nested in there to escape easily. and it was just a grep/sed.
[06:46] <definity> Oi
[06:46] <critical_max> ac7ss: yeah, not so critical with that sort of thing, but you'll want to use it for potentially destructive commands eventually down the road.
[06:46] <ohsix> critical_max: i never miss an opportunity to mention safe-rm :]
[06:46] <bazhang> nimrod[A], looks good, more ram would be better obviously; could you boot the live cd and run lspci for the network cards?
[06:46] <critical_max> ohsix: absolutely, i'm checking it out now :)
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: and not using force
[06:46]  * ac7ss never scripts any rm with wildcards!
[06:47] <definity> what theame/ windows manager is this?
[06:47] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: that's a good practice too
[06:47] <definity> vhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/linux-top-command-used-in-tron-trailer/
[06:47] <definity> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/linux-top-command-used-in-tron-trailer/
[06:47] <FloodBot1> definity: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:47] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: as is rm path -options
[06:47] <bazhang> definity, its the top command
[06:47] <nimrod[A]> (bazhang): i used an ubuntu server disc, ill burn a desktop disc.
[06:47] <definity> the window manager?
[06:48] <definity> or theame?
[06:48] <Besogon> theame?
[06:48] <nimrod[A]> but i could use the server disc and it did install fine
[06:48] <sacarlson> ac7ss: I did find this but I can't find a way for a infinite loop http://penguinpetes.com/b2evo/index.php?title=how_the_one_liner_for_loop_in_bash_goes&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1.
[06:48] <bazhang> definity, no, its a command you run to see processes in the terminal
[06:48] <sacarlson> ac7ss: I tried while [1]; do sleep 1; done but fails
[06:49] <definity> yeah but i asked what is the theam/ window manager running? do u know?
[06:49] <grindcrusher> try while true; etc.
[06:49] <critical_max> sacarlson: you have to use spaces in the conditionals if you use that syntax
[06:49] <critical_max> sacarlson:  like [ 1 ]
[06:49] <ac7ss> sacarlson: try 'while : ;do echo 1;sleep;done
[06:49] <sacarlson> critical_max: cool I'll try that
[06:51] <critical_max> sacarlson: I like "while 1" myself for a 1-liner, less typing
[06:51] <ac7ss> ok, easy one now: how do you echo a line up on the screen?
[06:51] <sacarlson> ac7ss: critical_max; yes this works while [ 1 ] ; do echo test; sleep 2 ; done
[06:51] <critical_max> ac7ss: by line up do you mean repeat the last commadn entered?
[06:51] <ac7ss> Like Critical_Max: while :
[06:52] <critical_max> ac7ss: i don't get your question i'm afraid.
[06:53] <ac7ss> Critical_Max: no I want to move the cursor point up the screen by 1
[06:53] <critical_max> ac7ss, you want to print an empty line? "echo"
[06:54] <critical_max> ac7ss, still not following you properly
[06:54] <critical_max> ac7ss, the cursor in bash is just a text entry point, if you're trying to do something like select text you need to specify that.
[06:55] <sacarlson> critical_max: I just tested with while 1; do echo test; sleep 2 ; done  and it fails
[06:55] <ac7ss> Critical_Max: I want to move the cursor up. so the next echo is on top of the last line.
[06:55] <gusg> I'd like to make my display dimmer. Where can I adjust things like gamma, brightness, and contrast?
[06:55] <critical_max> sacarlson: oops, use :   or [ 1 ] i guess
[06:55] <cosmo> how long you guys think till FF4 64 bit is available in the repositories?
[06:55] <critical_max> or while true
[06:55] <ac7ss> I can do it with clear, but not really what I wanted
[06:55] <critical_max> i forget ><
[06:55] <charlos> hello all
[06:56] <charlos> can to help me ?
[06:56] <critical_max> ac7ss: you want to print a line on top of a line that's already printed?
[06:56] <charlos> os[Linux 2.6.35-28-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "maverick" 10.10] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  T3200  @ 2.00GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2.00GHz] mem[Physical: 2.9GB, 88.4% free] disk[Total: 177.5GB, 72.8% free] video[Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel]
[06:56] <critical_max> ac7ss: in overlay fashion?
[06:56] <ac7ss> Critical_Max: THATS It!
[06:56] <sacarlson> ac7ss: critical_max: I think it would just require a arrow up or some control caricter to echo to move up one line before the next loop
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> charlos: try stating your issue instead of spamming the channel
[06:56] <critical_max> ac7ss: any reason you can't just print them both at once?
[06:56] <charlos> how to make install for on webcam  ?
[06:56] <Tm_T> cosmo: it is available in PPA of Mozilla team, "/msg ubottu ff4" for more information
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> charlos: then all that is of zero value if you just want help with your webcam
[06:57] <ac7ss> scarlson: Thats the idea, I need to know the /n equivilant for that.
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> charlos: if you install and run cheese, do you see yourself
[06:57] <charlos> oh
[06:57] <charlos> wait i see now
[06:57] <cosmo> Tm_T, the 64 bit version?
[06:58] <charlos> yes work cheesee on webcam is okey
[06:58] <Tm_T> cosmo: yes
[06:58] <critical_max> ac7ss, looks like the emacs mode controls are only within the line...still looking for ya
[06:58] <charlos> but why not work for pidgin  ?
[06:58] <cosmo> sweet
[06:58] <critical_max> ac7ss, i still think you should be printing both at once as a more proper solution
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> charlos: cool, then all is well
[06:58]  * ac7ss doesn't ask the easy questions.
[06:58] <Jordan_U> sacarlson: critical_max: ac7ss: "while true; do foo; done" is clearest IMHO
[06:59] <ac7ss> Critical_Max: I want to overwrite the old info.
[06:59] <critical_max> Jordan_U, i agree. i was confusing "while 1" and "while true" syntax
[06:59] <critical_max> ac7ss: use clear
[06:59] <critical_max> ac7ss: or say why it doesn't work so we can suggest something more useful :)
[06:59] <charlos> oh thanks
[06:59] <critical_max> ac7ss: watch has built in "clear" type functionality, too
[06:59] <nimrod[A]> (bazhang): it wont boot a live desktop cd, but it will boot and install using an ubuntu server disc
[06:59] <Jordan_U> ac7ss: What is your end goal?
[07:00] <charlos> now I see pidgin for on webcam if work ... I will tell u, ok
[07:00] <sacarlson> Jordan_U: yes that also works while true; do echo test; sleep 2 ; done , and I have writen code that did that move cusor up one and overwrite before and forget the control code
[07:00] <charlos> but how to call webcam on pidgin  ?
[07:00] <nimrod[A]> it showed the purple screen for a second then went black and is doing nothing now
[07:00] <ac7ss> Jordan_U: I want to have an updating status on the screen.
[07:00] <nimrod[A]> except spinning the dc
[07:00] <nimrod[A]> cd**
[07:00] <bazhang> nimrod[A], did you md5 the iso? burn at low speed, and do the disk integrity check? the alternate cd might work if you  have done all those things and still have issues
[07:00] <charlos> my friend want see me but I dont know where is click on call webcam in pidgin  ?
[07:01] <nimrod[A]> ive done the alt cd before
[07:01] <ac7ss> I think I will stay with clear
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> charlos: maybe there is a setting in pidgin to configure video before it will work...
[07:01] <nimrod[A]> the alt cd will install but it wont boot at all
[07:01] <Besogon> charlos: I think Pidgin don't support webcam
[07:01] <sacarlson> ac7ss: well it will be the only thing running in that term so I guess the clear should work as good as any
[07:01] <charlos> yes ?
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> charlos: not sure, look in the options / preferences
[07:01] <nimrod[A]> i used an iso from the ubuntu site bruned and did a disc verify using imgburn at 4x write speed
[07:01] <charlos> I must reinstaller in Pidgin again install and after work on webcam , really ?
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> Besogon: the new one does
[07:01] <nimrod[A]> burned**
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> charlos: what protocol are you using  to chat?
[07:02] <charlos> i dont know
[07:02] <charlos> i am never trined
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> charlos: msn? yahoo? Aol?
[07:02] <charlos> help me how to command see for you ?
[07:02] <charlos> yahoo
[07:02] <critical_max> ac7ss, I installed cpufreq-info but your grep + sed isn't working so well for me. I really think "watch" is the best solution given the info we have.
[07:02] <charlos> pidgin for yahoo  and msn
[07:02] <bazhang> nimrod[A], well you could always install ubuntu-desktop package on top of the server install, but its odd that none of the other options are working
[07:02] <nimrod[A]> well
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> charlos: you may need to use gyache then.
[07:02] <nimrod[A]> the server wont even boot for me to be able to do so
[07:02] <critical_max> ac7ss, can you tell me what info you're trying to pull out of the complete cpufreq-info -c1 output?
[07:03] <charlos> ActionParsnip> privat me
[07:04] <nimrod[A]> ivedone this with Debian5, kubuntu, and others, all do the same thing, i just figured i'd rekindle the flame lol
[07:04] <critical_max> ac7ss, i will build a 'watch' command that does what you want in the simplest fashion
[07:04] <ac7ss> critical_max: it grabs the governor from the full text. try the command without the grep.
[07:04] <critical_max> ok, so for example "The governor "ondemand" ..." you're looking for "ondemand" in that case?
[07:05] <charlos> ActionParsnip> not work apt-cache search gyache
[07:05] <charlos> nothing see
[07:05] <charlos> no have
[07:05] <definity> anybody have any experience with Solar Os
[07:05] <definity> ?
[07:06] <bazhang> !ot | definity
[07:06] <ac7ss> critical_max: I did it with wait. just had to escape some of the "s
[07:06] <critical_max> ac7ss, watch 'cpufreq-info -p | cut -f 3 -d " "'
[07:06] <critical_max> ac7ss, that's all it takes
[07:06] <Besogon> definity: Ypu are at wrong place :)
[07:06] <Besogon> you
[07:06] <critical_max> a combination of watch (whose entire job is to sleep and clear and rerun) and cut
[07:06] <definity> cant find an irc for it
[07:06] <critical_max> also i used the -p switch to just spit out the current governor
[07:07] <charlos> gyachi  ?
[07:07] <critical_max> ac7ss, and cut is just going to the third field given a delimiter of a space
[07:07] <ac7ss> critical_max: Ok, that cleaned it up. THX
[07:07] <bazhang> definity, that does not make this the solar os support channel; try #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:07] <critical_max> ac7ss, my pleasure
[07:07] <bazhang> !alis > definity
[07:07] <Syria> Hey, after editing a php file using nano what should i do to save the changes?
[07:07] <nimrod[A]> ctrl+x
[07:07] <Kimmen> or ctrl+o
[07:08] <Syria> nimrod Kimmen thnx guys
[07:08] <Kimmen> np
[07:08] <Besogon> Syria: ;D
[07:08] <nimrod[A]> yw
[07:08] <critical_max> ac7ss, watch -n 10    to make it 10 seconds instead of default 2, or w/e you want
[07:09] <charlos> ActionParsnip> hey how to command for gyachi-1.2.7.tar.gz   ?
[07:09] <critical_max> basically i only go to "while true" loops if I can't get "watch" to do the job.
[07:09] <ohsix> Syria: there are some instructions for common commands at the bottom, ^ = ctrl
[07:10] <charlos> ActionParsnip> say me please
[07:10] <ac7ss> critical_max: I was having trouble with a trailing ; and having to escape many of the quotes.
[07:10] <nimrod[A]> but, i have no idea why my old ass computer wont boot ubuntu, i guess its technilogically impaired
[07:11] <arvut> nimrod[A]: find another distro that will =)
[07:11] <critical_max> ac7ss, yeah sed gets unreadable in a hurry
[07:11] <Kimmen> charlos: this will extract the file: tar -xzvf gyachi-1.2.7.tar.gz
[07:11] <nimrod[A]> ive tried others and none work lol
[07:11] <critical_max> nimrod[A], try Damn Small Linux, it will run on almost anything
[07:11] <arvut> is is a 386 or something?
[07:11] <charlos> and after ?
[07:11]  * nimrod[A] installs slackware
[07:11] <nimrod[A]> *lol*
[07:11] <Kimmen> charlos: look for a README file
[07:12] <arvut> critical_max: wont run on my old 386 :P
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> charlos: there may be a ppa with it too
[07:12] <arvut> made for msdos5.0
[07:12] <critical_max> arvut, i knew someone was going to say that haha
[07:12] <ac7ss> critical_max: sed 's/\/\.\\//'
[07:12] <nimrod[A]> anyway
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> charlos: or (easier) use msn messenger and install amsn using standard ubuntu repos
[07:12] <arvut> critical_max: I knew that would be me ^_^
[07:12] <charlos> i have amsn
[07:12] <alkisg> What packages do I have to remove to *disable* NTFS volume mounting?
[07:12] <alkisg> $ dpkg -l '*ntfs*' | grep ^ii
[07:12] <alkisg> $ mount | grep /dev/sda1
[07:12] <alkisg> /dev/sda1 on /media/Vista type ntfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=1010,gid=1010,dmask=0077)
[07:12] <FloodBot1> alkisg: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:12] <charlos> but pidgin want work on webcam
[07:12] <nimrod[A]> thanks for the help guys, i guess ill figure it out or scrap the junker :P
[07:12] <charlos> im dont tar -xzvf gyachi-1.2.7.tar.gz
[07:13] <charlos> and after what command ?
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> charlos: i know it does for some protocols, not all
[07:13] <critical_max> arvut, i had edgy on a pentium ii for years
[07:13] <charlos> how to see protocol  ?  command  ifconfig  ?
[07:13]  * ac7ss has an old laptop he cannot load linux onto.
[07:13] <critical_max> arvut, 128 mb ram + icewm + firefox = surprisingly usable
[07:14] <ac7ss> my laptop has no usb, cd, only a 50meg hdd.
[07:14] <arvut> critical_max: now that I can understand. but try to find a linux distro that will run on a machine with 2mb ram, 20mb hdd & a "superfast cpu" (speed not specified in bios)
[07:15] <critical_max> arvut, hmm... PC/M? :)
[07:15] <Kimmen> then it is a 8-20MHz 386 ;)
[07:15] <Kimmen> possibly :P
[07:15] <critical_max> i'd rock the LOGO Turtle all over that box.
[07:15] <ac7ss> Thinking of scrapping the machine and using the monitor as an aux screen.
[07:15] <lolcat> arvut: How can you get 2MB ram on a Sandy Bridge mobo?
[07:16] <ac7ss> arvut: that sounds like my laptop!
[07:16] <arvut> its a UniŦron machine, they made copies of old macs in the 80's, Apple II for example.
[07:16]  * critical_max put a mid 90s thinkpad online with ubuntu, working wireless, never again though
[07:17] <arvut> lolcat: who said anything about a sandy bridge mobo? =P
[07:17] <critical_max> arvut, woah, rare bear... 68000?  and now we are well off topic :)
[07:17] <ac7ss> critical_max: Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
[07:17] <lolcat> arvut: It is the only fast cpu out there
[07:18] <arvut> critical_max: #offtopic made no sense so I came here, looks like no help is needed so lets continue ;)
[07:18] <critical_max> haha
[07:18] <arvut> lolcat, you missed the "not specified in bios" part, did ya?
[07:19] <critical_max> well if it's a mac clone, it doesn't have BIOS
[07:19] <critical_max> arvut, hell it doesn't even have OpenFirmware yet...
[07:19] <arvut> bios actually says "superfast cpu" or something like that..
[07:19] <arvut> so I can't be sure its a 386
[07:20] <lolcat> arvut: Bios doesnt specify how fast the sandy is
[07:20] <critical_max> arvut, if it's a mac clone it's definitely a motorola 68k family, and at 2mb likely the 68000
[07:20] <ac7ss> There are so many commands in linux, it is very helpful to ask around here.
[07:20] <arvut> lolcat, you make me l0l >.> its in the bios of a machine from the 80's!
[07:20] <critical_max> arvut, if it's an apple II clone it depends on what model they are cloning, i don't remember the main apple II chip family
[07:21] <lolcat> arvut: Sandy Bridge isn't that old
[07:21] <arvut> I think its more of a pc clone, since it came with M$Ð0$ 5.0
[07:21] <critical_max> ac7ss, there sure are, but you can take all this bash trix right to Redhat now if you need to and most of it to Mac OS X :) that's the beauty of it
[07:21] <Kimmen> lolcat: that's why he had to mod it to be able to run 2MB RAM
[07:22] <critical_max> arvut, gotcha, "PC compatible"... does it have a Turbo Button?!
[07:22] <lolcat> arvut: There is NO fast cpu's from '80
[07:22] <Kimmen> oh, those are cool
[07:22] <arvut> critical_max: I wish..
[07:22] <ohsix> they were in the 80s
[07:23] <arvut> had one on my first pc tho, from 40mhz to 80mhz with a shiny lcd display ^.^
[07:23] <ac7ss> critical_max: True there.
[07:23] <Adam1213> the video tests in systems testing don't work + java 3d won't work on my current installation of ubuntu but it works when i run the live version of ubuntu - how can I find out the difference between the two and use it to fix my graphics / can I get ubunutu to fix itself
[07:23] <arvut> this one is.. slim
[07:23] <jmirra> why was there a turbo button on old pc's?
[07:24] <Kimmen> to get them into turbo mode
[07:24] <Nalkem> moin moin
[07:24] <jmirra> Kimmen:  was there ever a need to not be in turbo mode?
[07:24] <Kimmen> nope
[07:24] <Jordan_U> !ot | jmirra
[07:24] <ac7ss> jmirra: I just wrote a script to drop out of turbo mode.
[07:25] <ohsix> people didn't know if it was safe to run them at full speed the whole time
[07:25] <Kimmen> you could disable turbo mode because some programs ran too fast in rubo mode
[07:25] <Syria> !phpmyadmin
[07:25] <ohsix> plus a lot of old games would break in turbo mode
[07:25] <arvut> 40x40x5cm, two floppies a harddrive and room for two external cards. currently I have an ethernet and a vga card installed =)
[07:26] <arvut> UniTron N°26 System
[07:26] <arvut> thats what its called
[07:27] <keerthi_> exit
[07:27] <ac7ss> try /quit
[07:27] <the_file> is there anything I can use other than paypal to send money?.
[07:28] <ac7ss> usps
[07:28] <Kimmen> your bank
[07:28] <silv3r_m00n> hi there , I have a non-english pdf , but when I copy text from it , it becomes garbage
[07:28] <alkisg> If I manually delete ntfs.ko, then I can disable access to ntfs volumes. But blacklisting it won't work. Why?
[07:28] <the_file> kimmen: an online service cause I don't got a bank
[07:28] <silv3r_m00n> how to copy text from non-english pdf files ?
[07:28] <maxillusionist> ac7ss are you charging somebody $$$
[07:28] <maxillusionist> don't do it
[07:29] <the_file> silv3r_m00n: just copy the ascii.....
[07:29] <Besogon> silv3r_m00n: Install official PDF reader. From abode
[07:29] <maxillusionist> linux is free
[07:29] <Besogon> adobe
[07:29] <ac7ss> maxillusionist: I was giving someone an alternative to paypal.
[07:29] <maxillusionist> ok
[07:29] <maxillusionist> i thought otherwise
[07:29] <maxillusionist> LOL
[07:29] <silv3r_m00n> Besogon: yes I am using adobe acrobat reader
[07:30] <silv3r_m00n> it can open it fine , but when copy pasted elsewhere , it gets ruined
[07:30] <maxillusionist> well how many here like open source
[07:30] <ac7ss> maxillusionist: I only charge for my time. I am on the clock at work now.
[07:30] <alkisg> silv3r_m00n: some PDF files don't contain the maps required for copy to work. You can't do anything about it other than using some ORC or hex-editing the pdf to fix the winansiencoding of the font.
[07:30] <maxillusionist> so you are a freelancer
[07:30] <maxillusionist> wow
[07:30] <maxillusionist> you must be developing open source softwares
[07:30] <ac7ss> maxillusionist: no, I am a rail controller, killing the slow time on my shift.
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> maxillusionist: in what sense do you mean?
[07:31] <ac7ss> maxillusionist: I am a linux hobbiest.
[07:31] <hellslinger> anyone here use the faenza icon ppa?
[07:31] <maxillusionist> not a linux developer
[07:31] <maxillusionist> still fine
[07:31] <sacarlson> ac7ss: but what about the derailments if your not watching?
[07:31] <maxillusionist> but i am alinux programmer
[07:31] <maxillusionist> i love it
[07:32] <ejv> can you guys take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please? thanks :)
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | hellslinger
[07:32] <maxillusionist> ActionParnship it means freelancing works for making softwares
[07:33] <maxillusionist> or you have clients and they give you $$ for making softwares for them
[07:33] <ac7ss> sacarlson: they de-rail on their own. I just have to fix it after.
[07:33] <cosmo> hmmm I'm thinking I need to do a fresh install but I need to figure out how to back up the important stuff, I really dont want to have to re-download all this non-repository stuff
[07:33] <ejv> was there a question in there cosmo ?
[07:33]  * ac7ss works in a control center, the operators on the trains have to avoid the crashes.
[07:33] <maxillusionist> ubottu have you ever made linux from scratch
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> maxillusionist: cool, much better to be specific like that
[07:33] <maxillusionist> ok
[07:34] <maxillusionist> it was just something i meant
[07:34] <nikkii> "The output directory 'logs' has to be set world-writable to allow the
[07:34] <maxillusionist> well i love c/c++
[07:34] <nikkii> web-server to dump log files and traces in there." how do i do this?
[07:34] <maxillusionist> presently working at java
[07:34] <ejv> maxillusionist: please move any non-ubuntu support chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:35] <arvut> ejv: forcemove would be rude.
[07:35] <critical_max> nikkii, best way is to find out what user/group your webserver is running as. Set ownership of that directory to match, then allow user to write to it
[07:35] <Andy-at-home> guys, I receiving the error 'Your defined data root directory, /var/webappdata1/, is not writable. Please make the directory if it does not exist, or give ownership of the directory to the web server user if it does.'
[07:35] <Andy-at-home> in the top program I have two users (root and apache) that run httpd
[07:35] <ejv> arvut: pardon?
[07:35] <Andy-at-home> i used chmod -R 777 webappdata1 and chown -R apache webappdata1 but I'm still receiving the error
[07:35] <cosmo> ejv, yeah anyone know any guides for backing up your important stuff, as well as one for the correct way to set up things like a home partition, I tend to be lost on manually setting gparted
[07:36] <Karen_m> i created a thumbdrive persistent install of Ubuntu, however when the machine is booting up, I get the Ubuntu screen and it just rotates the red/white dots forever... (at least it's been 5 minutes)
[07:36] <nikkii> critical_max, how do i find out what user/group my webserver is running as?
[07:36] <maxillusionist> ejv i was just telling that it is  good idea to develop free softwares
[07:36] <critical_max> nikkii, is it apache?
[07:36] <maxillusionist> an dit is good all the time
[07:36] <Starminn> How can I set an executable to just automatically "Run" instead of prompting me every time?
[07:36] <maxillusionist> *and
[07:36] <nikkii> critical_max, it's micro-httpd
[07:36] <ejv> cosmo: typically stuff in /home and /etc are *most* important to people, I would look into backing those up, as for partitioning: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition
[07:37] <sacarlson> Andy-at-home: strange I thought the default apache install was user www-data
[07:37] <critical_max> nikkii, something like "ps -ef|grep micro-httpd"
[07:37] <ejv> maxillusionist: that's fine, just do it in the offtopic channel.
[07:37] <wizardken> can logical partitions have a mount point?
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: make a launcher for it, may help
[07:37] <ac7ss> wizardken:yes.
[07:37] <Karen_m> does anyone know?
[07:37] <hellslinger> is there an irc channel for ubuntu themes and artwork?
[07:37] <Andy-at-home> lol, ;)
[07:38] <ejv> !patience | Karen_m
[07:38] <critical_max> nikkii, first word in that line is the user it's running under
[07:38] <maxillusionist> ok ejv  but when you will have your own hardware and linux drivers will not support it then you will find me
[07:38] <critical_max> Karen_m, if it's an old machine with slow/little RAM, it can take aaaages
[07:38] <shirokko> Hi, is it possible to find out the ip of a windows smb share?
[07:38] <maxillusionist> then i will help you out to make a driver for you
[07:39] <hellslinger> Karen_m, getting it to show boot output and not the splash screen
[07:39] <bazhang> !ot | maxillusionist
[07:39] <hellslinger> might be helpful
[07:39] <ejv> not to be rude maxillusionist, but i don't really care, please move along. :)
[07:39] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: Ah, perfect.
[07:39] <Karen_m> critical_max, it is a fast machine.. I just wanted a persistent USB install.. :(
[07:39] <maxillusionist> shirokko what is the port used for smb
[07:39] <Karen_m> with the live usb iso, it loads in seconds
[07:40] <maxillusionist> the port no
[07:40] <Karen_m> hellslinger, how do you see it?
[07:40] <shirokko> maxillusionist: I used the default one
[07:40] <maxillusionist> then make a bash script to search for live hosts
[07:40] <maxillusionist> easy
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> shirokko: shares don't have IPs. The host does and the shares are managed by samba which runs on a port
[07:40] <sacarlson> shirokko: there must be easier ways but for one to monitor with wireshark to see what trafic it comes from if you can't just get the ip from the windows box itself
[07:40] <critical_max> Karen_m, ok, it's probably some sort of driver issue. Unfortunately I am not familiar with the persistent installations. perhaps someone who is can be of assistance.
[07:40] <maxillusionist> then it might show live hosts isn't it
[07:41] <shirokko> ActionParsnip: yeah, I need the hosts ip
[07:41] <Jordan_U> Karen_m: How large is the USB drive?
[07:41] <hellslinger> Karen_m, I forget, does the grub bootmenu appear when you attempt to boot?
[07:41] <Karen_m> 4GB
[07:41] <Karen_m> hellslinger, it auto-boots .. I think it does display but very quick
[07:42] <maxillusionist> sacarlson you use wireshark
[07:42] <maxillusionist> hacker boy
[07:42] <sacarlson> maxillusionist: yes
[07:42] <Jordan_U> Karen_m: That's enough for a normal install, which I prefer to a persistant Live install.
[07:42] <critical_max> shirokko, if you want to find the port use "sudo netstat -plutn|grep smb"
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> shirokko: if you are connected to a share you can run: mount  a
[07:42] <Karen_m> Jordan_U, how do you install to the USB drive?
[07:43] <critical_max> shirokko, that command will also show you what IP smbd is bound to (Likely binding to ALL on the interface, indicated by :::[port])
[07:43] <hellslinger> Karen_m, if you can get it to pause when the boot options appear, press ctrl-x (if I'm not mistaken) on the line of boot and remove the "quiet" and "splash" options from the kernel line
[07:43] <JeeM0edErr> I wanne Suck All Boys
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> Sorry: mount     and see the hostname, dig the hostname to see the IP
[07:43] <sacarlson> maxillusionist: in this case maybe sudo netstat -pant would be better for shirokko ?
[07:44] <critical_max> sacarlson, ahh i missed that shirokko is on the client side...whoops!
[07:44] <Jordan_U> Karen_m: Easiest way is to boot from a LiveCD or another LiveUSB and do a normal install. If you have enough RAM (> 1GiB) you can also install from the same USB you booted from, but that's more difficult.
[07:45] <Karen_m> Jordan_U, I would need to install from the USB i'm running on.  I do not have a cdrom in the machine
[07:45] <Karen_m> and I only have 1 thumbdrive
[07:45] <shirokko> maxillusionist: got it, thanks
[07:45] <Jordan_U> Karen_m: How much RAM do you have?
[07:46] <Karen_m> 4GB
[07:46] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: I almost wish you had never told me how to customize the icons... :( lol.
[07:47]  * Starminn is spending a little too much time customizing icons in GIMP... :)
[07:47] <critical_max> Starminn, there's about 1000 open source projects that would LOVE icon help :)
[07:48] <Starminn> critical_max: Only 1,000? :D
[07:48] <cosmo> I have yet to really see an icon set that blows me away
[07:49] <critical_max> The BeOS icon set was very delicious
[07:50] <Jordan_U> Karen_m: You need to pass the parameter "toram" to the kernel at boot, I'm not sure how to do that with a LiveUSB created by Startup Disk Creator / Unetbootin.
[07:50] <abhijain> how can i check cashe images in firefox which i browsed in past time
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: haha well, the OS is very customizable so go nuts buddy  ;-)
[07:51] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: I know. I keep finding more and more (let's be honest) crap I can customize. Haha.
[07:52] <mofaph> hi, all. what's that /boot/abi-*-generic use for?
[07:52] <Starminn> In Windows I used hacky stuff for customizations. In this, there's too much stuff I go, "Ooo, shiny" about. Almost too easy.
[07:52] <Karen_m> that toram gives me something to search on google, thank you!
[07:52] <Jordan_U> Karen_m: You're welcome.
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> starcoder: welcome to "choice"
[07:54] <ajin> hello
[07:55] <hemza> I need to add swap partition
[07:55] <ajin> hemza: ok, just do it
[07:55] <ajin> go ahead
[07:56] <critical_max> abhijain, ~/.mozilla/firefox/vkuuxfit.default/Cache/
[07:57] <critical_max> abhijain, your exact profile directory will vary of course
[07:57] <ajin> whois ajin
[07:58] <abhijain> critical_max: i dont know how to acess this directory
[07:59] <critical_max> abhijain, ~ is your home folder, make sure nautilus is showing hidden files
[07:59] <ajin> hello
[07:59] <critical_max> abhijain, .mozilla in your home folder, then /firefox/[your profile]/Cache
[07:59] <abhijain> critical_max: ok
[08:00] <critical_max> abhijain, Edit > Preferences > Show hidden and backup files in nautilus file browser
[08:00] <critical_max> that will let you into .mozilla through the file browser
[08:01] <hemza> is it possible to upgrade to mozilla firefox4
[08:01] <hosein> hi people! I tried to install ZendStudio and Zend Server CE on ubuntu. Now I am running Studio and Server seem's to be installed. but I and Studio can  not create any dir or file on www root directory with this error: "Parent of resource: /var/www/index.html is marked as read-only./var/www/index.html (Permission denied)"
[08:02] <Tm_T> !fx4 | hemza
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> critical_max: or press CTRL+H life goes faster if you unglue your hand from the mouse
[08:02] <Karen_m> !toram
[08:02] <Karen_m> !toram | Karen_m
[08:02] <Besogon> People. How to pronunciate 'WiMAX' correct?
[08:02] <critical_max> !sudo |hosein
[08:02] <puck1> I am having problems printing large PDFs to a Xerox Phaser 6280DN Printer.  I keep getting this msg "/usr/lib/cups/filter/cpdftocps failed"   I am using the ppd file from Xerox and am sure it is the correct one.  Everything else prints fine just not large pdfs.  I don't have much experience diagnosing problems with printing please help.
[08:02] <ejv> hosein: also, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[08:03] <critical_max> hosein, gksudo to launch your studio app might do it
[08:03] <critical_max> excuse me, gksu
[08:03] <hemza> !fx4
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> critical_max: same difference
[08:04] <critical_max> puck1, check out /var/log/cups/error_log yet?
[08:04] <hemza> i need to add a swop partition
[08:04] <critical_max> ActionParsnip, oh, good
[08:04] <critical_max> !partitioning hemza
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> critical_max: i believe one is a sy
[08:05] <critical_max> hah. short answer: use a Live CD to repartition and make swap larger
[08:05] <Andy-at-home> how can I find the username that is running apache?
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> Symlink but i could be wrong
[08:05] <hemza> !patitioning
[08:05] <critical_max> Andy-at-home, "ps -ef" and look for httpd
[08:06] <critical_max> Andy-at-home, user is in first column
[08:06] <critical_max> hemza, you can repartition non destructively. how much RAM do you have? swap doesn't need to be much more than 2x RAM or so
[08:07] <hemza> critical_max, 2 GB
[08:07] <critical_max> hemza, and what size is your swap at the moment?
[08:07] <hemza> critical_max, no swap at this moment
[08:08] <hosein> !gksu
[08:08] <critical_max> hemza, is there a swap partition sitting unused on the drive? if so "sudo swapon" will turn it on
[08:08] <critical_max> hemza, otherwise use a current Ubuntu installer CD to resize a partition that  has free space, then create a swap partition of 4GB
[08:09] <hemza> critical_max, No
[08:09] <Andy-at-home> thanks, it was what I thought
[08:09] <critical_max> hemza, ok, installer has you covered then.
[08:09] <critical_max> hemza, just take 4gb from your other partition and make a new one of type swap, the kernel will recognize it on next booth
[08:09] <critical_max> boot*
[08:10] <abhijain> critical_max: there is no such directory /.mozilla in /home folder
[08:10] <critical_max> your home folder, not the /home folder
[08:10] <Andy-at-home> when I visit my web app site I get the error... 'Your defined data root directory, /var/webappdata/, is not writable.' I can see it has 777 and the apache user is owner, what else could it be?
[08:10] <critical_max> /home/abhijain or whatnot
[08:10] <hemza> critical_max, I can use gparted to create new partition and formatted to swap. but how to recognize it?
[08:11] <critical_max> Andy-at-home, it could be php permissions, php by default is very restrictive
[08:11] <critical_max> Andy-at-home, check your php config
[08:11] <abhijain> critical_max: yes /home/abhishek/ ???
[08:11] <abhijain> critical_max: i dont have such folder
[08:11] <critical_max> hemza, it should just be recognized. look up swapon if it's not.
[08:12] <critical_max> abhijain, if you don't have /home/abhishek/.mozilla i don't know where it is. sorry.
[08:12] <nikkii> has anyone tried deploying glasnost?
[08:12] <bullgard4> What is the opposite to "established connection"? '~$ sudo netstat -tap' outputs: "Active Internet connections (servers and established)'."
[08:12] <Andy-at-home> critical_max, what should I be looking for?
[08:13] <critical_max> Andy-at-home, "php apache write permissions" would be a good google. It's been a while and I don't have the answer in my head.
[08:13] <critical_max> it's a dirt common problem though for new installs
[08:13] <[deXter]> hey all
[08:13] <critical_max> solved through the php config as i recall
[08:13] <[deXter]> does anyone know where exactly are the gnome menu items stored
[08:14] <abhijain> critical_max: dont have
[08:14] <abhijain> critical_max: thanku
[08:14] <Besogon> [deXter]: It has a lot of locations
[08:14] <critical_max> [deXter], System > Preferences > Main Menu lets you edit them
[08:14] <critical_max> in detail
[08:14] <[deXter]> critical_max: Well not really
[08:14] <Besogon> [deXter]: It has local config and global one
[08:14] <bullgard4> [deXter]: Please read about 'gconf'.
[08:14] <[deXter]> critical_max: It doesn't allow (me) to rename and delete folders
[08:15] <boat7> gconf
[08:15] <[deXter]> bullgard4: I don't want to use gconf, I want to browse the folder using the terminal or nautilus
[08:15] <samuel__> Hey everyone, I have formatted a partition of my harddrive to ext4 with gparted, but now i cant use it, as it belongs to root, how can i change this ?
[08:16] <critical_max> [deXter], I don't think you can, I think it's all in the gconf registry.
[08:16] <[deXter]> O.o
[08:16] <Karen_m> Jordan_U, how do I know if it successfully loaded TO RAM?
[08:16] <critical_max> [deXter], most people's least favorite gnome feature, yeah, i know
[08:16] <[deXter]> critical_max: Well the shortcut files must be stored *somewhere*
[08:16] <ohsix> [deXter]: changes are cached in your user directory, the .desktop files for individual entries are in /usr/share/applications/
[08:16] <hosein>  critical_max: Ok thx. And now ZStudio can create files but I can not!
[08:17] <Besogon> [deXter]: listen. Local files are located in ~/.config/menus and ~/.local/icons
[08:17] <Jordan_U> Karen_m: You'll be able to unmount (and even remove) the flash drive.
[08:17] <[deXter]> ohsix: Thanks :)
[08:17] <Murphant> I'm having trouble setting my default screen resolution in ubuntu 10.4 x64, I tried using nvidia x-server settings with sudo but it still won't work
[08:17] <[deXter]> Besogon: Thanks, that's what I needed :)
[08:17] <Jordan_U> Karen_m: What is the output of "cat /proc/cmdline"?
[08:17] <Murphant> is there a way to check what config file is read at startup?
[08:17] <critical_max> oh wow, .config is still used? I had just checked all through all of .gconf and .gnome2..
[08:17] <ohsix> [deXter]: you can ask the package manager for all sorts of things, dpkg -L package will list all the files, if it's something in the menu it'll have a .desktop file with it
[08:17] <critical_max> my bad.
[08:18] <[deXter]> ohsix: Cool, thanks. :)
[08:18] <bullgard4> Murphant: Difficult. You can consult dmesg for a partial answer.
[08:19] <critical_max> Murphant, indeed, here be dragons. Is there something not working with System > Preferences > Monitors?
[08:19] <adamkex> So if I have RAID 1 on a computer, and one out of two of the hard drives fail, what happens to the second one?
[08:19] <Besogon> [deXter]: look more for menu managing http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/
[08:19] <Murphant> critical_max, my monitor never seems to be recognized
[08:20] <[deXter]> Besogon: Oh, forgot about freedesktop.org. Thanks.
[08:20] <critical_max> Murphant, that's not normally a blocker. mine shows up unrecognized but 'just works'. as do most all LCDs
[08:20] <Murphant> but I can change the config manually on each boot, no problem
[08:21] <Murphant> critical_max but I tried "save to x configuration file" even with sudo and it doesn't seem to care
[08:22] <critical_max> Murphant, that sort of thing is a nightmare from the past. Have you tried just removing the Nvidia driver, using the Ubuntu "Restricted hardware driver" manager to install its choice of Nvidia driver and go from there?
[08:22] <Murphant> critical_max, apparently saves to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:23] <bullgard4> What is the opposite to "established connection"? '~$ sudo netstat -tap' outputs: "Active Internet connections (servers and established)'."
[08:23] <ac7ss> I cannot change my desktop wallpaper!?!? I am using gnome, but gconftool is pointing at something other than the wallpaper I want to use. How can I find out where it is being set from?
[08:23] <Murphant> critical_max, no, I haven't tried that, I just might
[08:23] <critical_max> Murphant, I would highly suggest doing that. That way you have a known state to work from
[08:24] <bazZ666> moin, ist es möglich ein ubuntu auf einem usb stick zu installieren über eine virtual box?
[08:24] <bullgard4> bazZ666: Ja.
[08:24] <bazZ666> hab jetzt das image ubuntu 10.10 ne virtual box
[08:25] <bazZ666> das ist der us chan hier oder?
[08:25] <critical_max> ac7ss, open with Image Viewer, right click, Set as Desktop Background not working?
[08:25] <bullgard4> bazZ666: Ja.
[08:25] <ac7ss> Sorry that should say that gconftool points at the one I want, but not the one on the screen.
[08:25] <bazZ666> hm
[08:25] <bazZ666> schlecht
[08:26] <Karen_m> Jordan_U, <tab>, added toram on the line, now it's installing to the usb.. very nice! thank you
[08:26] <bazZ666> im de chan antwortet keiner
[08:26] <Murphant> critical_max, I disabled the Nvidia driver, how do I get Ubuntu to use the "restricted hardware driver"?
[08:26] <critical_max> Murphant, normally it pops up when you log in if you aren't running the nvidia binary driver it will suggest it. Try relogging
[08:27] <ac7ss> critical_max: I have tried setting it from every tool I use and I cannot change it. (maybe changed from Googlechrome or firefox, havn't tried that.)
[08:27] <bullgard4> bazZ666: Weil es dort ein ppar halbstarke gibt, die die meisten gutwilligen Benutzer vergraulen.
[08:27] <Murphant> alright, thanks, brb
[08:27] <critical_max> murphant, Takes a few seconds for the process to get its act together, give it a bit after login
[08:27] <bazZ666> das ist mal interessant bullgard4
[08:27] <StepNjump> !ntfs
[08:27] <critical_max> ac7ss: yikes. never gotten myself into that.
[08:27] <bazZ666> ist ein angespanntes klima im de chan hab ich gemerkt
[08:27] <ac7ss> critical_max: where else would the manager be getting it from?
[08:28] <StepNjump> !NTFS-3g
[08:28] <critical_max> ac7ss: Never had to solve that problem myself.  I suppose depending on how many hacky applets you've been playing with, a running process could be handling it
[08:28] <critical_max> and overriding
[08:28] <StepNjump> !FUSE
[08:29] <StepNjump> !help
[08:29] <critical_max> ac7ss: Last time I played with anything like that was xscreensaver -root :)
[08:29] <critical_max> animated desktop!
[08:29] <StepNjump> !menu
[08:30] <ac7ss> critical_max: I am gonna make a cron dependant wallpaper. I guess I will just use the filename already set.
[08:30] <critical_max> ac7ss: look for an app that does that, I bet that's been done
[08:30] <ac7ss> critical_max: I run the swarm screensaver as background sometimes. :)
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> Ha andChat can block the motd
[08:31] <ac7ss> critical_max: very simple script. many online.
[08:31] <critical_max> cool
[08:31] <critical_max> i'm one of those who thinks a desktop is for hiding with active windows, i tend to ignore it
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> ac7ss: i've seen one or two as well
[08:32] <ac7ss> actionparsnip: I just can't get the background to match what is in gconf.
[08:33] <Murphant> critical_max: alright, I asked it to take the default config, and now I have no hardware drivers that are offered
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> ac7ss: there is a gconf command to set wallpaper at cli
[08:34] <Murphant> critical_max: btw I can't even get it into widescreen now, I definitely need another driver than whatever I am using now
[08:34] <ac7ss> actionparsnip: it reads the one that I want, but not the one that is really there.
[08:34] <critical_max> murphant, actually, that's good
[08:34] <critical_max> Murphant, try manually starting the restricted driver manager
[08:35] <critical_max> Murphant, System > Administration >  Hardware Drivers
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> ac7ss: http://joeamined.wordpress.com/2008/02/15/automatically-changing-wallpaper-relatively-to-daytime-in-ubuntu/
[08:36] <critical_max> I'm running ATI so for me it offers ATI Fire GL, last time I was on Nvidia it offered me a choice of 2 official Nvidia binaries, one old, one fairly bleeding edge
[08:36] <ac7ss> actionparsnip: I am looking at that one, my problem is more fundamental. I cannot change the wallpaper using gconftool.
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> ac7ss: in gconf-editior does the key exist?
[08:38] <Murphant> critical_max: No restricted drivers are recommended at the moment, I will try rebooting and see
[08:38] <critical_max> Murphant: That sounds good.
[08:40] <Softdroid> When I check my primary diskparition in Admin -> Disk tools it says: "The disk contains a few broken sectors". How can I fix it?
[08:40] <azizLIGHTS> !ar
[08:40] <ac7ss> actionparsnip: the key exists, points to the image I want, but thats not the one on the screen.
[08:40] <azizLIGHTS> !ae
[08:41] <azizLIGHTS> !sa
[08:41] <Softdroid> !se
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> ac7ss: interesting. I'll have a play later i gotta sleep
[08:42] <Murphant> critical_max: nop, still no suggestions in Hardware Drivers
[08:42] <critical_max> Murphant, what nvidia card is it
[08:42] <Syria> Hi, i can't make any changes in phpmyadmin, the page keeps loading after clicking on go. please help
[08:43] <azizLIGHTS> !qa
[08:43] <Murphant> GTX460
[08:43] <azizLIGHTS> lolz
[08:43] <bazhang> azizLIGHTS, /msg ubottu
[08:43] <azizLIGHTS> oh sorry
[08:43] <azizLIGHTS> ty
[08:43] <hosein> Is ubuntu software center downloads resumable?
[08:43] <Murphant> critical_max: GTX460
[08:43] <Syria> hosein:  Yes.
[08:44] <[Lemmy]> i could use soe help installing ubuntu netbook remix on an asus eeepc 701 (4G)
[08:44] <Murphant> critical_max: I used to have the driver I got on the nvidia website for it
[08:44] <critical_max> Murphant, a thread from july 2010 says it's not supported in linux. i'm wondering if it still only has partial support (read: not usable)
[08:44] <azizLIGHTS> what should i use to go back to how my ubuntu was , 2 months ago,?
[08:44] <[Lemmy]> i made a bootable usb stick from the iso image, netbook boots fine, ubuntu starts, and after the second dialog in the installer nothing happens
[08:44] <Murphant> critical_max: huh, I thought they would have fixed it by now, I'l look into it, thx
[08:44] <ac7ss> azizLIGHTS: restore from a backup?
[08:45] <critical_max> mURPHANT: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9678269&postcount=14
[08:45] <azizLIGHTS> ok yes? which one how? ac7ss
[08:45] <critical_max> Murphant: looks like you just have to get a newer driver than is packaged with your ubuntu release by default
[08:45] <Syria> Guys can you help me with phpmyadmin please! I can't make any changes
[08:45] <critical_max> murphant: thread linked has details
[08:45] <ac7ss> azizLIGHTS: did you back up 2 months ago?
[08:45] <Guest53140> sorry
[08:46] <Guest53140> can i have it back..
[08:46] <Guest53140> new to xchat
[08:46] <hosein> syria: oh no! I just clicked on the red button of its progress bar, and it has removed from list! where can I resume it?
[08:46] <azizLIGHTS> ac7ss: no, i want to do backups starting now, and ooking for utility suggestion
[08:46] <Syria> hosein:  Just try installing it once again.
[08:46] <azizLIGHTS> ac7ss: do i need fol backup of hdd or just save some files and have rolack ability
[08:46] <azizLIGHTS> *rollback
[08:47] <ac7ss> azizLIGHTS: I use backup2l, completely automated to a second drive.
[08:47] <azizLIGHTS> does any backup utliity integrates into the gui and lets you see "previous version" of files
[08:47] <critical_max> syria, often your Apache logs have the answer for that kind of problem. access.log and error.log both.
[08:47] <hosein> syria: it will continue?
[08:47] <ac7ss> azizLIGHTS: backup2l is good for regular incremental backups.
[08:47] <Murphant> critical_max: ty, I will download a driver that apparently works well
[08:47] <Syria> hosein:  Yeah.
[08:47] <azizLIGHTS> ok im cehcking it ac7ss
[08:47]  * ac7ss doesn't depend on GUI for much. sorry.
[08:47] <critical_max> Murphant, good luck, you ahead-of-thehardware-curve guy!
[08:48] <Syria> critical_max:  Where are those files located?
[08:48] <critical_max> Syria, /var/log/apache2 on ubuntu
[08:48] <hosein> ok. nice! thanks to linux and you
[08:48] <ecolitan> hello!
[08:48] <Syria> critical_max:  Thnx, I will see whats going on there.
[08:48] <critical_max> Syria, "sudo tail -f /var/log/apache2/error.log" then reproduce the problem and watch the log in realtime :)
[08:49] <ecolitan> does anyone know if firefox 4 will be available in 11.4 ?
[08:49] <critical_max> !ff4 | ecolitan
[08:49] <critical_max> oops, i guess that doesn't cover the question
[08:49] <bazhang> ecolitan, yes it will, #ubuntu+1 for more
[08:49] <critical_max> someone knows :)
[08:50] <stimpie> Anyone knows how to route all ssh traffic via a remote ssh server?
[08:50] <ecolitan> i was meaning if it will come in the standard repository
[08:50] <critical_max> stimpie: the keyword you are looking for is "ssh tunnelling"
[08:50] <Murphant> critical_max: well I mostly use the power of the card on windows, and it's not exactly bleeding edge anymore, it's almost a year old
[08:50] <ac7ss> azizLIGHTS: there is no "restore point" program for ubuntu that I know of (as a simple setup.) Likely it could be done with a script.
[08:50] <bullgard4> What is the opposite to "established connection"? '~$ sudo netstat -tap' outputs: "Active Internet connections (servers and established)'."
[08:50] <bazhang> ecolitan, it will be default installed. #ubuntu+1 is the natty support channel
[08:51] <azizLIGHTS> ac7ss: its enogh to tarball /home ?
[08:51] <azizLIGHTS> periodically with cron
[08:51] <ac7ss> bullgard4: "Not connected"?
[08:51] <bullgard4> ac7ss: How does netstat lis not connected connections=
[08:52] <bullgard4> s/lis/list/
[08:52] <mickster04> hey guys, can anyone tell me how to find out if i can install ubuntu happily onto a hp mini 5103?
[08:52] <ac7ss> azizLIGHTS: you will want to use incremental backups. (that is what backu2l is really good at.) otherwise you get large echos of what you now have.
[08:52] <azizLIGHTS> i see yes you are right
[08:52] <critical_max> Murphant, the important thing is to get the system to the "known good", albeit non-accelerated state, then you can easily follow any directions to install the proper driver once identified. All those third party nvidia command line apps are relics nowadays. At most the package installation should handle all the running of that config
[08:53] <critical_max> You're there, so you should be good to go once you identify the driver
[08:53] <critical_max> Murphant, also check into "envy" perhaps
[08:53] <bazhang> critical_max, envy has not been around for a long time now
[08:54] <critical_max> oh? shows how long since I had these problems ><
[08:54] <ac7ss> bullgard4: I do not believe it does. you could use the logs to check for prior connections.
[08:54] <critical_max> Do not check into envy in that case :)
[08:54] <Syria> critical_max:  Is this normal? http://paste.ubuntu.com/584185/
[08:55] <critical_max> Syria, nothing scary in there, you might have to dig in the access log to figure out what's going on
[08:55] <critical_max> access.log in the same directory
[08:56] <critical_max> again, running tail -f on the access log while reproducing the problem is usually best
[08:56] <Murphant> critical_max: I'm afraid that Envy is not supported for 10.4
[08:56] <critical_max> Syria, I also see an "other_vhosts_access.log" which your webserver might be writing too, I'm not sure of your config
[08:57] <critical_max> Murphant, Yeah, I'm blushing, someone told me it was outdated right after I mentioned it
[08:57] <The_Rufus> I'm installing Ubuntu Server and I have 5 2tb drives in software RAID5, but how do I mount them as /?
[08:57] <critical_max> Syria, check both of those if they exist, tail -f while reproducing the problem to make the correlation if possible
[08:57] <Guest53140> any web guru's familliar with epiphany?
[08:57] <The_Rufus> if I change the type from  "physical volume for RAID", it will break the raid right?
[08:57] <critical_max> Guest53140, isn't that the old Gnome browser?
[08:58] <Guest53140> ya
[08:58] <Murphant> critical_max: oh, yeah, just saw it
[08:58] <Guest53140> well, maybe
[08:58] <ecolitan> The_Rufus: raid with mdadm?
[08:58] <Guest53140> but still an issue
[08:58] <Syria> critical_max:  is this one helpful http://paste.ubuntu.com/584186/ ? this the access.log
[08:58] <The_Rufus> whatever the installer uses
[08:58] <Guest53140> i can't seem to force a cache disable
[08:59] <Guest53140> nor clear forms
[08:59] <critical_max> Syria, I can't troubleshoot your php app for you, but I bet the info you need might be in that access log, since it's showing your pages loading. Good luck.
[08:59] <Syria> critical_max:  Thank you. :)
[08:59] <Guest53140> code works on IE and FF, still checking others
[08:59] <critical_max> you're welcome
[09:00] <bpr> i just installed an 11.04 build and "alt-f" doesn't skip forward one word.  Does anyone have any ideas why this would be?
[09:00] <Syria> critical_max:  Just one more question please. removing phpmyadmin and re-installing it can solve the problem?
[09:00] <bazhang> bpr #ubuntu+1 for natty
[09:00] <bpr> ah ok
[09:00] <ragix> Hi guys, my rtl8192se seems to be giving me kernel panics
[09:00] <bpr> sry bazhang
[09:00] <The_Rufus> damnit, i've been trying to get this server working since November last year
[09:01] <The_Rufus> nobody knows how to get RAID working
[09:01] <critical_max> Syria: try it and find out, I guess. One more tip: don't be root in the terminal. Use sudo for things that require root privileges in the terminal.
[09:01] <ragix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/584187/
[09:01] <critical_max> !sudo | syria
[09:01] <bars0> Hi all, I need to install latex but I do not want to install documentation. What is the option in aptitude?
[09:03] <The_Rufus> anybody?
[09:03] <The_Rufus> or should I just hang myself
[09:03] <[Lemmy]> nah, hang the server instead
[09:03] <bpr> xb
[09:03] <ac7ss> The_Rufus: I would suggests a small boot drive and then mount the raid.
[09:03] <The_Rufus> i have a 4gb flash drive mounted as /boot
[09:04] <critical_max> The_Rufus, i find it  hard to believe that there are no walkthroughs for RAID5 installation via the Ubuntu installer. Is that really true?
[09:04] <Murphant> critical_max: I seem to only be able to install the nvidia driver out of X but the terminals that appear when I press ctrl-alt-f2 and the like are all blurred and unreadable
[09:04] <Murphant> critical_max: should I try to login blindly and do the operations?
[09:04] <The_Rufus> i want the 10Tb RAID5 as /
[09:04] <The_Rufus> I've searched google for every howto, and nothing works
[09:04] <critical_max> Murphant: my gut reaction is no, that way leads to trouble more often than not. A good solution will be cleaner
[09:04] <The_Rufus> believe me, I wouldn't be here if I could find the answer
[09:05] <mickster04>  alternatively, can anyone point me to where it might state if the gma3105 chip is supported?
[09:05] <[Lemmy]> i could use some help here... installing ubuntu netbook remix on an asus eeepc 701 (4G)
[09:05] <critical_max> Murphant, you're saying you have problems displaying alt-F2, etc terminals with the default non-accelerated driver?
[09:05] <[Lemmy]> i made a bootable usb stick from the iso image, netbook boots fine, ubuntu starts, and after the second dialog in the installer, the one where you pick to download upgrades during install, nothing happens at all.
[09:05] <critical_max> The_Rufus, I see. :(
[09:05] <Murphant> critical_max: yep, have had them since I installed
[09:06] <Murphant> critical_max: what's weird is that I have the same problem on my laptop, which has an ATI card
[09:06] <Murphant> critical_max: thought that maybe installing the driver would fix that
[09:06] <critical_max> Murphant: Might try dist-upgrading to 11.04
[09:07] <critical_max> Murphant: based on what I read on the ubuntu forums, that card just wasn't supported at all until quite recently
[09:07] <leagris> hello, I have a snd-pcm symbol unknown and no sound since kernel upgrade to 2.6.35-28-generic, is there a fix/patch or way to revert to latest working kernel?
[09:07] <critical_max> Murphant, driver support often lags about a year when the card vendors have an architecture change
[09:08] <critical_max> murphant, which is what we're seeing, basically
[09:08] <hosein> how can run a menu item as root with sudo? what must change in its command?
[09:08] <Murphant> critical_max: yeah, I can see that
[09:08] <scarleo> leagris: you can boot earlier kernels at grub if you haven't removed them
[09:08] <xardas008> hosein, try starting it from console
[09:09] <critical_max> murphant, I know it's not what you want to hear but i've lost weeks of my life trying to get badly supported video cards working well, and it really isn't worth it if you can a) dist-upgrade to a release that supports it b) use an operating system that supports it (windows)
[09:09] <hosein> xardas008: no I want to run it from menu. Is it possible?
[09:10] <xardas008> not with sudo rights i think
[09:10] <critical_max> Murphant: 11.10 alpha is available for testing June 2
[09:11] <Murphant> critical_max: alpha might be a bit intense for my inexperience with linux, but I will probably try 10.04
[09:11] <critical_max> if you can wait that long, i'd highly advise working on upgrading to that rather than pooching your current install repeatedly
[09:11] <critical_max> yes, try 11.04 in the interim
[09:12] <StepNjump> Guys, I'm trying to download timevault backup app but when I try to execute the .deb package, I get the following error message: Dependency is not satisfiable: python2.5-dev
[09:12] <wizardken> is the root directory suppose to be bootable?
[09:12] <Murphant> critical_max: for now I'm just gonna install old versions with synaptics and hope for the best
[09:12] <critical_max> murphant, you should be able to upgrade to 11.04 right now
[09:12] <critical_max> one sec, i'll find the directions
[09:12] <StepNjump> !timevault
[09:13] <The_Rufus> I'm following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=Convert+to+software+raid&titlesearch=Titles
[09:13] <Murphant> critical_max: lemme reboot, brb
[09:13] <The_Rufus> does that mean I need to create 5 "/" mount points?
[09:13] <The_Rufus> one on each drive?
[09:13] <Guest53140> looking for a bored web guru.... any takers?
[09:14] <The_Rufus> I'm specifically referring to step 6
[09:14] <leagris> scarleo, currently reinstall linux-image-2.6.35-27 because I had flushed old kernels. Too bad I revert to unpatched security issues because of the snd-pcm havoc in newer kernel
[09:14] <critical_max> StepNjump, i bet there is a PPA for timevault, check the urls the bot sent, it's not packaged in main ubuntu
[09:14] <The_Rufus> anybody?
[09:14] <mickster04> can anyone point me to where it might state if the gma3105 chip is supported?
[09:14] <The_Rufus> please?
[09:14] <The_Rufus> I'm dying here
[09:15] <oCean> The_Rufus: I think you assume correctly. It states to repeat the steps 2-5 for the other disk
[09:15] <StepNjump> Hi critical_max again... I'm new to all this. Does it mean I need to add a new repository ?
[09:16] <maxillusionist> The_Rufus what it is actually
[09:16] <critical_max> StepNjump, yes, but the help page should spell out exactly what to do
[09:16] <maxillusionist> i was off for sometime
[09:17] <The_Rufus> ok, so I have 5 "/"'s across 5 2Tb HDD's
[09:17] <The_Rufus> is that right?
[09:17] <The_Rufus> now according to the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=Convert+to+software+raid&titlesearch=Titles (howto), I should go to "Configure Software RAID" right?
[09:17] <oCean> The_Rufus: I *think* so, according to that guide.
[09:17] <StepNjump> critical_max ok let me check
[09:17] <ssn> hi guys
[09:18] <oCean> The_Rufus: also, in #ubuntu-server there might be more help available on such (server) topics
[09:18] <ssn> how can i install the software (default ubuntu gnome desktop has it) that allows me to configure multiple monitors?
[09:18] <ssn> i mean, how is it called
[09:19] <oCean> !xinerama | ssn
[09:19] <ssn> ubottu: i know xinerama, i just need the "gnome frontend" to configure it
[09:20] <Andy-at-home> how can I search all the files in the current directory for 'open_basedir'?
[09:20] <critical_max> ssn: gnome-display-properties is what the process calls itself
[09:20] <critical_max> hth
[09:20] <ac7ss> andy-at-home: 'grep open_basedir *'
[09:20] <ssn> critical_max: thx!
[09:21] <leagris> rebooting to older kernel, will see
[09:21] <critical_max> Murphant, use alt-F2 to bring up the gnome app launcher, then start "update-manager -d"   the -d switch will offer distribution upgrades
[09:21] <Murphant> critical_max: well that seemed to work on getting me back to how I was before
[09:22] <Andy-at-home> grep open_basedir *
[09:22] <Andy-at-home> on its own
[09:22] <critical_max> Murphant, you're on 10.04 right now?
[09:22] <Andy-at-home> damn
[09:22] <Murphant> critical_max: and as a minor improvement, I now boot at a 1024x768 resolution compared to my old 600x400 resolution, so it is less painfull on the eyes
[09:23] <Murphant> critical_max: yes I am
[09:23] <hosein> If I remove an installed package from ubuntu software center, should I download it again? can I keep its deb for later use?
[09:23] <Murphant> critical_max: my xconf still won't save properly though, I guess I will live with it until I upgrade to 11.04
[09:23] <ahox> Hi, my dkms_autobuild fails with a make.log error of /var/lib/dkms/virtualbox-ose/3.2.8/build/include/iprt/types.h:97: fatal error: linux/autoconf.h: No such file or directory. How do I install this file?
[09:23] <xardas008> hosein, i think that he will keep the dep in some temp folder
[09:24] <critical_max> Murphant: see above for directions for upgrading to 10.10, and subsequently for 11.04 if the problem isn't fixed
[09:24] <xardas008> sudo apt-get install autoconf
[09:24] <critical_max> murphant, you'll want to have that ready for the 11.04 release anyway, since you can't skip releases when upgrading
[09:24] <ahox> I am running maverick, but with a 2.6.38 kernel from the ppa
[09:24] <mickster04> can anyone point me to where it might state if the gma3105 chip is supported?
[09:25] <critical_max> murphant, and since your goal is to get this newfangled hardware running smoothly :)
[09:25] <uczen> halo
[09:25] <xardas008> ahox, that could be the problem. I tried the same with another kernel then the one previously installed. It has something to do with dkms
[09:25] <bluum> hosein: find /var -name \*.deb
[09:26] <critical_max> hosein, all your debs are cached in /var/cache/apt/archives if you are curious to see what's there
[09:27] <bullgard4> Why does '~$ sudo netstat -tunap' output the name of the process #985 as "0", while '~ps aux' outputs "dictd" for it?
[09:27] <ahox> I assume that the autoconf.h is part of the linux kernel. It actually exist in the header package, in he directory /usr/src/linux-headers-<version>/include/generated
[09:27] <ac7ss> andy-at-home: was that what you needed?
[09:28] <critical_max> hosein, so if the deb is still there, and still current, the next time you install the package Ubuntu will not get it from the net, but from the cache locally
[09:28] <bluum> hosein: do this experiment. install some package, uninstall it, pull the network plug, try to install again
[09:29] <critical_max> bluum, i guarantee following that sequence will take it from the cache for the 2nd install
[09:29] <Andy-at-home> who knows lol
[09:29] <Andy-at-home> php is loading a open_ basedir value from somewhere and I'm trying figure out where
[09:29] <critical_max> bluum, if update-manager doesn't choke at not being able to check for current listings hehehe
[09:30] <critical_max> bullgard4, pastebin would help a lot
[09:30] <iceroot> Andy-at-home: normally /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[09:31] <uczen> siema
[09:31] <uczen> ;o
[09:31] <ylmf> bh
[09:32] <Andy-at-home> sorry, I'm getting lost in my channels
[09:32] <Andy-at-home> wait for it
[09:32] <Andy-at-home> I'm on CentOS
[09:32] <hosein> bluum,: I tested it. It installed locally from cache. but the configuration wizard I saw at the first installation, did not appear. why?
[09:32] <critical_max> hosein, that's because you still had the config from last time (probably in ~/.someapp-config
[09:33] <bullgard4> critical_max: '~$ sudo netstat -tunap' output the name of the process #985 as "0", while '~ps aux' outputs "dictd" for it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/584198/
[09:34] <bluum> hosein: you might have the option to either "uninstall" or to "prune" a package. pruning deletes the configuration.
[09:34] <hosein> critical_max: It is  zend server wrapper for phpMyAdmin, I dont know where it is installed?
[09:35] <critical_max> hosein: neither do I, sorry.
[09:35] <critical_max> bullgard4, and the ps output?
[09:35] <critical_max> I mean the netstat output
[09:37] <critical_max> hosein: you can use "apt-get purge somepackage" instead of apt-get remove , to remove config
[09:37] <critical_max> hosein: that should offer the config wizard next time you install it.
[09:38] <puck1> Sorry I had to teach a class.  critical_max, I have looked at the error log but don't really know what to look for.  Any clues?
[09:39] <Murphant> critical_max: thanks for the tip (and your help in general), but I'm working on a project, I'l upgrade when I'm done
[09:39] <critical_max> puck1, what were we looking at again?
[09:39] <hosein> critical_max: without removing its .deb from chache?
[09:39] <critical_max> Murphant, yeah it's something to leave overnight :)
[09:39] <critical_max> hosein: correct
[09:40] <critical_max> hosein: you never have to touch that cache. you can clear it if you want to save drive space for some reason. apt-get clean, apt-get autoclean  are different ways to clean it, look at the docs for details.
[09:40] <puck1> We have ubuntu 10.04 and are having a problem with a Xerox Phaser 6280DN printer connected via port 9100.  Everything seems to print fine except large pdfs we keep getting messages like /usr/lib/cups/filter/cpdftocps failed"
[09:41] <critical_max> puck1, Oh. I don't know what to look for either, but anything you DO find should be googled :) and that's probably where the relevant errors would be - in the cups error log
[09:41] <bullgard4> critical_max: This was the output of '~$ ps aux | grep 985'. --
[09:41] <critical_max> puck1, I think I've had to go to that log exactly once in my life and it did give some kind of helpful clue. Good luck!
[09:41] <bullgard4> critical_max: '~$ sudo netstat -tunap' output the name of the process #985 as "0", while '~ps aux' outputs "dictd" for it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/584200/
[09:41] <ac7ss> night all.
[09:42] <critical_max> bullgard4, I see what you mean now. And that is very strange, And I don't have an answer sorry :(
[09:42] <bullgard4> critical_max: Thank you.
[09:43] <critical_max> puck1, that log again was /var/log/cups/error_log (possibly access_log as well)
[09:43]  * critical_max teatime
[09:45] <unma> quit
[09:47] <ahox> xardas008: I found two solutions, #1 is to upgrade to virtualbox 4.0.4 using a ppa, the second one is to fix the includes, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/virtualbox/+bug/705593 . (maybe use find/sed combo)
[09:48] <NCS_One> hi
[09:49] <desturrr> hi, i was trying to install listen music player via ubuntu software center, but it is stuck on the stage saying applying changes for quite a time now
[09:49] <desturrr> do you know how to cancel it ?
[09:49] <Bipul`> i can not able to  update my ubuntu 10.10  from update manager
[09:51] <jonathandade> desturr: Can you check the process list and see if the process has crashed and how long is quite a long time?
[09:51] <DrThorax> join #inf
[09:51] <desturrr> it is about 10 minutes
[09:51] <desturrr> when i do ps
[09:51] <desturrr> it is just 2 thing showing
[09:51] <desturrr> how to see all processes
[09:51] <jonathandade> Bipul: You'll probably find a tutorial or two on google for that. What is the current version you are running?
[09:52] <NCS_One> desturrr: ps aux
[09:52] <NCS_One> where do I "set -o vi" and how to make it go to normal mode after <ENTER>?
[09:52] <jonathandade> desturr: in a shell do a ps aux to see all processes from all users
[09:52] <desturrr> yes i did that
[09:52] <desturrr> should i grep it as well
[09:52] <NCS_One> better
[09:53] <desturrr> there is update-notifier  only shown
[09:53] <jonathandade> have a look at the list for dpkg or apt and see what the process states are? Then you could check top to see if it is just running.
[09:54] <desturrr> desturrr@desturrr-PC:~$ ps aux | grep dpkg
[09:54] <desturrr> root      4655  0.0  1.8  82836 72240 pts/1    Ds+  11:30   0:00 /usr/bin/dpkg --status-fd 17 --unpack --auto-deconfigure /var/cache/apt/archives/gstreamer0.10-esd_0.10.25-4ubuntu2_amd64.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/libtunepimp5_0.5.3-7.3ubuntu2_amd64.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/python-mutagen_1.19-2_all.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/listen_0.6.5-5_amd64.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/python-daap_0.7.1-3_amd64.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/python-gpod_0.7.95-1_a
[09:54] <desturrr> md64.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/python-musicbrainz2_0.7.2-0ubuntu1_all.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/python-tunepimp_0.5.3-7.3ubuntu2_all.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/python-xlib_0.14+20091101-1_all.deb
[09:54] <FloodBot1> desturrr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:55] <StepNjump> critical_max timevault is looking for me to install python 2.5 but the current version is 2.6, what should I do?
[09:55] <critical_max> stepnjump, building from source if there's no more up-to-date package available.
[09:55] <critical_max> stepnjump, or find an app that's not been abandoned
[09:56] <desturrr> basically is there a way to stop the ubuntu software center
[09:56] <critical_max> stepnjump, i recommend option #2
[09:56] <StepNjump> critical_max ok thanks
[09:56]  * charlos brb Im go to a bath one moment... ;)
[09:56] <StepNjump> Yes for sure.. I'm not that advanced
[09:56] <jonathandade> desturr: You can kill the process for it, but interrupting it that way may cause other issues.
[09:57] <desturrr> i did xkill it
[09:57] <desturrr> but  when i open , the installing is still stuck
[09:57] <critical_max> StepNjump, also tried googling "timevault 10.04" or whatever your release is? might be an easy workaround that someone has documented
[09:57] <mik> hi ppl
[09:57] <mik> code break in 10 channel
[09:58] <StepNjump> Can't find anything
[09:58] <critical_max> StepNjump, roger that, i'd just find a different tool if i were you
[09:58] <mik> find in line 332 at 6
[09:58] <mik> install webkit in 10.10
[09:58] <jonathandade> desturr: I am wary of telling you to force kill it and it's children in case it leaves your system in a broken state.
[09:58] <StepNjump> What would you suggest as far as automated backup system for ubuntu 10.10 critical_max?
[09:58] <desturrr> force kill ?
[09:59] <desturrr> ok lets do that :D
[09:59] <critical_max> StepNjump, I use the "prayer" system, your mileage may vary :O
[09:59] <critical_max> Seriously though,  I'm not up to date on that.
[10:00] <critical_max> Others will have better suggestions.
[10:00] <StepNjump> sudo apt-get install prayer?
[10:00] <critical_max> No, it was a joke. :D
[10:01] <StepNjump> oh yeah
[10:01] <StepNjump> tnx
[10:02] <[Lemmy]> grmbl
[10:02] <jonathandade> Not a great idea. The state it was in was uninterruptible sleep (usually IO). That means it might be waiting on disk or memory, but if oyu understnad that this may leave your system irretrievably broken then the command in a shell would be kill -9 <PID of dpkg and any other processes you need to kill>. That will forceably remove it from memory if that can be done. You'll need to sudo it, but be warned this may well kill your w
[10:02] <jonathandade> I'd use top first to see what its doing?
[10:02] <critical_max> StepNjump, maybe "Back in Time" http://www.installing-linux.com/TB/?P=803 supposed to be a time machine inspired app
[10:02] <critical_max> but reported working in 10.10/10.04
[10:03] <jonathandade> desturr: force kill should be a last resort always.
[10:03] <critical_max> I got curious myself and had a look :)
[10:03] <StepNjump> Inspired by the movie critical_max... good idea. Thank you very much
[10:03] <StepNjump> let me check it
[10:03] <mintux>  I have problem with write cd/dvd in linux. it said some files has bad name. so how can I find the file's because it's a lot files . are there any software write cd or dvd and ignore each file has bad name. I destroyed many cd or dvd for this problem
[10:03] <critical_max> I know Timevault was hyped to death a couple years ago so I'm surprised to see it languishing.
[10:03] <k3kc0rp> sudo apt-get install windoze ?
[10:03] <k3kc0rp> XD
[10:03] <critical_max> Oh is there a movie?
[10:04] <StepNjump> critical_max, wasn't that a movie with Christopher Reeve?
[10:04] <critical_max> I've used the nick for over a decade. I dunno.
[10:04] <critical_max> !ot | critical_max
[10:05] <critical_max> mintux: Give us an example of a bad filename that you are talking about.
[10:05] <mintux> critical_max: it's log of barseo http://paste.ideaslabs.com/show/1EE5vukJLE
[10:06] <mintux> if I know which file has problem I renamed it
[10:06] <mintux> Session error : Some files have invalid filenames (brasero_burn_record brasero-burn.c:2839)
[10:06] <serrghi> anyone here use openvpn+networkmanager for Giganews openvpn?
[10:07] <critical_max> Mintux: Maybe there is a script to rename all the mp3s to linux friendly characters. I can't see from that huge log which the problem file is.
[10:08] <mintux>  critical_max: my problem is exactly this . I can not rename all file's or how can I sure the problem solved. the software must rename it or say it
[10:08] <critical_max> mintux: yeah, I get that. have you seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brasero/+bug/529696/+index?comments=all?
[10:09] <critical_max> mintux: Huge problem bug, apparently
[10:10] <critical_max> mintux: it's reported fixed in 10.04 and 10.10. What release are you running and is it updated? What version of Brasero?
[10:11] <StepNjump> critical_max, yes it's working! Thank you !
[10:11] <critical_max> mintux: the fix is less than one month old so you might not have the update yet?
[10:11] <critical_max> StepNjump, Excellent! Glad to help.
[10:12] <StepNjump> critical_max, you should be here more often!
[10:12] <critical_max> StepNjump, If only this was a job.
[10:12] <StepNjump> ;)
[10:13] <StepNjump> Would be nice to wake up to go to work eh?
[10:13] <critical_max> Depending on the work, yeah. This is rather more rewarding than most real telecommuting jobs.
[10:15] <m_> how to enable sd card reader ?
[10:15] <m_> join #ubuntu
[10:15] <NCS_One> where do I "set -o vi" and how to make it go to normal mode after <ENTER>?
[10:17] <monish001> hello everyone!!
[10:18] <wild> In the terminal I want to configure Apache defaults. How do I save my configuration changes?
[10:18] <xardas008> wild, which editor do you use?
[10:19] <ikonia> wild: just exit the text editor your using to change them
[10:19] <m_> hi! my sd card reader doesn't work. when typing lspci i don't know which one is this. does any one know how to enable it?
[10:19] <wild> xardas008 ikonia I am using the terminal window and a sudo command
[10:19] <critical_max> m_ is it usb? lsusb
[10:19] <xardas008> wild, vi?
[10:20] <critical_max> m_ it should probably only show up when you have a card in it, too
[10:20] <wild> xardas008 yes
[10:20] <xardas008> ok with esc to the command prompt and then wq!
[10:20] <critical_max> wild, sudo vi  if you want to save to default apache config locations
[10:20] <twitch> wild: sudo nano -w /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[10:21] <critical_max> twitch: mmm nano, a crutch that i personally never want to put down. the aforementioned :wq! and movement are all i've learned in vi... for shame.
[10:21] <m_> critical_max: after lspci there's more there. would you know how to install it?
[10:22] <critical_max> nano actually has a lot of undocumented shortcuts too
[10:22] <critical_max> m_, all i've ever had to do is plug it in and it just works
[10:22] <critical_max> m_, what model is the card?
[10:22] <twitch> critical_max: yeah i know but nano is easier for beginners
[10:22] <critical_max> twitch: it sure is
[10:22] <m_> critical_max: lucky you. SDHC
[10:22] <codemagician> how to I switch my flash plugin with firefox?
[10:22] <critical_max> m_ full model name if you can?
[10:23] <wild> xardas008 if I click Esc, nothing happens. should something?
[10:23] <xardas008> codemagician, which one do you have and which one do you want to have?
[10:23] <k3kc0rp> sudo kill adobe
[10:23] <critical_max> m_ that's the memory card type right? we need the model of the card reader
[10:23] <xardas008> wild, on the bottom there should appear a : (if not already there)
[10:23] <critical_max> !flash | codemagician
[10:23] <codemagician> xardas008, currently I'm not sure. but its not working with speedtest.net
[10:24] <xardas008> codemagician, does it work on youtube?
[10:24] <codemagician> xardas008, yes
[10:24] <critical_max> codemagician: ok, click the adobe "install this" that shows up in the gaping hole if you see that
[10:24] <critical_max> codemagician, don't follow the browser helper prompts, rather use the adobe ones
[10:25] <m_> critical_max: yes that was card model. reader i don't know. as looking up on hp.com  there are 3 drivers Intel Matrix Storage Technology Driver and  Realtek Card Reader Driver
[10:25] <codemagician> critical_max, there is no missing plugin. it currently uses an open source one. i want to switch between them to compare
[10:25] <wild> xardas008, the 'insert' vanishes after Esc but no a appears
[10:25] <critical_max> ok, go to http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer
[10:25] <xardas008> ok then try to insert a wq! when the insert vanished
[10:25] <pauru> Hello all! i've just downloades firefox 4 rc and i want to install it, how do i do that? its a tar.bz2 file
[10:25]  * xardas008 away for a short time
[10:25] <critical_max> codemagician: the offered package will work great, i am using it with ff4/10.04 release atm
[10:25] <m_> critical_max: would you know how to check card reader model?
[10:26] <critical_max> m_ so it is built in with your PC?
[10:26] <m_> critical_max: yes
[10:26] <codemagician> critical_max, before the adobe flash player kept crashing my browser
[10:26] <critical_max> !ff4 | pauru
[10:26] <critical_max> pauru: don't use the tarball, follow the ubottu directions
[10:27] <pauru> critical_max, thanks, but why not?
[10:27] <critical_max> m_, pastebin the output of "sudo lspci -vv" and "sudo lsusb -vv" for us please
[10:27] <critical_max> pauru, because the OS will manage it for you and it's the same version right now as what's in the tarball
[10:28] <critical_max> m_, that will let us spot it if it's there
[10:28] <joris> Hi. How do I make sure I don't lose access to my server when I reinstall openssh ?
[10:28] <ikonia> joris: you dont
[10:28] <pauru> critical_max, Oh, thanks ;)
[10:28] <joris> ikonia: howcome?
[10:28] <m_> critical_max: you want me to paste it in here?
[10:28] <ikonia> joris: you're re-installing it, it will need to remove the package and replace it, however the daemon you are using should stay running in memory
[10:29] <codemagician> critical_max, well i download adobe plugin using the ubuntu package manager
[10:29] <ikonia> joris: it's a risk you'll have to accept
[10:29] <codemagician> critical_max, but i still don't know how to switch between my existing one and this
[10:29] <joris> ikonia: so the daemon is personal?
[10:29] <wild> xardas008, if I type "w" I heard a the snare sound but see nothing, then the q and "recording" appears q again and it goes away
[10:29] <critical_max> codemagician, should be in Tools > Addons > Plugins in FF
[10:29] <ikonia> joris: no
[10:30] <critical_max> codemagician as I recall they will sit side by side in FF and only one will be active, you pick
[10:30] <bullgard4> What package is the Disk Mounter applet associated with (in order to report a bug)?
[10:30] <v_v> wild: input :wq
[10:30] <v_v> wild: including the :
[10:30] <v_v> wild: or you just shit+zz
[10:30] <wild> :wq
[10:30] <v_v> wild: two Z
[10:30] <critical_max> joris, if you want more confidence in the remote update, there are few ways short of just having performed it on a staging machine of some sort (a VM sandbox configured like your remote server perhaps)
[10:31] <codemagician> critical_max, aha. i found that but the adobe one isn't in the list
[10:31] <critical_max> joris, perhaps something like Webmin
[10:31] <m_> critical_max: you want me to paste it in here? that's like 30 lines
[10:31] <critical_max> m_ no
[10:31] <critical_max> !pastebin|m_
[10:31] <Pumpkin-> joris: sshd has a main parent process that spawns a child process when you connect. That child should keep running, even if the parent is shutdown/reinstalled.
[10:31] <codemagician> critical_max, it offers the "Download it from Adobe" link
[10:31] <critical_max> pumpkin: Ahh, nice.
[10:31] <wild> v_v now I am at the command prompt again, thanks (does the wq save my changes?)
[10:32] <critical_max> codemagician, did you go to the Adobe url and run its installer?
[10:32] <v_v> wild: yes, 'w' --> write  'q' -->quit
[10:32] <codemagician> critical_max, the Ubuntu software center shows the Abode Flash Plugin is installed
[10:32] <critical_max> ok
[10:32] <Pumpkin-> depending on your paranoia level about the upgrade, I'd just have a few spare windows open
[10:32] <joris> Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/openssh-server_1%3a4.7p1-8ubuntu1.2_amd64.deb
[10:32] <joris> how do I fix this? ssh now refuses connection.
[10:32] <ikonia> !info openssh-server
[10:32] <wild> v_v cool, thanks!
[10:32] <v_v> codemagician: why not get a google chrome, and everything is already done
[10:32] <v_v> wild: np
[10:32] <ikonia> joris: what version of ubuntu is that ?
[10:33] <joris> hardy
[10:33] <codemagician> v_v, because im a developer and I use FF for development
[10:33] <v_v> codemagician: oh, i see
[10:33] <critical_max> codemagician, I don't know why it wouldn't be in the list. I just installed it but I did not have the open source plugin installed prior to the Adobe one, so my situation is different.
[10:33] <codemagician> v_v,  but i still want to find a way to switch between them
[10:33] <ikonia> joris: I would remove the file from the cache directory, re-run apt-get update, then re-reun the install
[10:34] <v_v> codemagician: the ff plugin firebug is awesome.
[10:34] <critical_max> For me, the Adobe flash plugin shows as "Shockwave Flash 10.0 r22"
[10:34] <joris> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/openssh-server_1%3a4.7p1-8ubuntu1.2_amd64.deb (--unpack): unable to make backup link of `./usr/sbin/sshd' before installing new version: Operation not permitted
[10:34] <codemagician> v_v, yeah i would miss it if i went to chrome
[10:34] <v_v> codemagician: chrome also has a debugger, which im not familiar with
[10:34] <codemagician> critical_max, i shutdown FF and re-installed the Adobe Flash plugin but it didn't get put into the Add-ons list within FF. hmm
[10:34] <Syria> critical_max:  i have removed phpmyadmin using this command apt-get purge-- remove phpmyadmin and after installing it again i couldn't login. :(
[10:35] <reliability> Is there a useful pdf viewer which I allows me to make annotations?
[10:35] <m_> critical_max: lspci http://paste.ubuntu.com/584215/
[10:35] <critical_max> Syria: the phpmyadmin docs are going to be your best resource
[10:35] <Magic_Sam> Hi everyone :)
[10:35] <xardas008> hi Magic_Sam
[10:35] <critical_max> Syria: or someone else that is running it.
[10:35] <Magic_Sam> Hi xardas008 :)
[10:35] <v_v> codemagician: what's the version of ff ?
[10:35] <Dannyd> when I watch a youtube video using firefox, it gets stored in /tmp/, does anyone know where it is stored when I use chrome?
[10:36] <dbugger_> Can someone help me please? Im trying to connect to the XMPP of my office but it sazs that I cant connect because the certificate Hostname is "john Doe" and thats not expected...
[10:36] <agrab> Hi, I'd like to make a usb with several live distros to select from. Is this possible?
[10:36] <codemagician> v_v, 3.6.15
[10:36] <reliability> I've been looking for pdf viewers on the web, but haven't been successful so far...
[10:36] <v_v> codemagician: can you visit flash web sites ?
[10:36] <critical_max> m_, and lsusb -vv?
[10:36] <dbugger_> reliability, try google docs
[10:36] <critical_max> (sudo lsusb -vv)
[10:36] <m_> critical_max: lsusb http://paste.ubuntu.com/584217/
[10:36] <Magic_Sam> I'd like some help setting up a Canon USB scanner...
[10:36] <codemagician> v_v, yeah but those aren't ubuntu specific
[10:36] <critical_max> thanks, checking
[10:36] <reliability> dbugger_: needs to be offline... :-/
[10:37] <codemagician> v_v, i  like to install packages from Ubuntu center preferably
[10:37] <m_> critical_max: cheers!
[10:37] <codemagician> v_v, stick to the beaten track
[10:37] <maxillusionist> pdf readers for ubuntu
[10:37] <v_v> codemagician: that's ok, why should it be ubuntu-specific
[10:37] <dbugger_> reliability, doesnt it have appcache?
[10:37] <codemagician> v_v, i mean in terms of packaging
[10:37] <agrab> is it possible to install several distros on one usb?
[10:37] <m_> critical_max: card inserted when run those commands
[10:37] <v_v> codemagician: it doesn't matter
[10:37] <erUSUL> maxillusionist: the default document viewer does not work for you ?
[10:37] <codemagician> v_v, when I click youtube im offered a link to "downed it from adobe"
[10:38] <reliability> dbugger_: appcache means i can run google apps offline?
[10:38] <pauru> now how can i install the previous firefox that i had?
[10:38] <critical_max> m_, darn, i don't see your gadget at ALL. Oh. Try this: "tail -f /var/log/dmesg" and take the card in and out.
[10:38] <codemagician> v_v, but remember it 'should' already be installed
[10:38] <maxillusionist> nop erUSUL i read that reliability was saying something like that
[10:38] <erUSUL> codemagician: install ubuntu-restricted-extras package? it incudes flahs an many other usefull things
[10:38] <v_v> codemagician: put the flash plugin file to .mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[10:38] <codemagician> v_v, so it must be an issue with referencing it
[10:38] <v_v> codemagician: put the flash plugin file to ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[10:38] <dbugger_> reliability, if I can access Gmail offline, maybe you can access also google docs offline
[10:38] <critical_max> m_ one thing i have done to troubleshoot that kind of problem is google for "HP 2510 card reader linux" or whatever my EXACT model of PC is. Other people with the same problem are usually found. If your PC is not a custom build, that might help./
[10:39] <Magic_Sam> I can't get a Canon LiDE 110 to work on Ubuntu 9.04...I've read the sane man pages and it seems I need libusb 0.1.16 installed, but there's only libusb 0.1.14 in Ubuntu 9.04... What should I do ? Thanks !
[10:39] <codemagician> erUSUL, shall I do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[10:39] <m_> critical_max: what does thjis command?
[10:39] <critical_max> m_ looking at dmesg is a good way to see if ANYTHING happens and what devices it happens to
[10:39] <sl33k_> this error was encountered when i download eclipse? dpkg: failed to write status record about `libslf4j-java' to `/var/lib/dpkg/status': No space left on device
[10:39] <maxillusionist> dbugger what does that mean??
[10:39] <critical_max> sl33k_, lol your drive is full
[10:39] <erUSUL> codemagician: that should work. or you can use ubuntu software center
[10:40] <critical_max> sl33k_, your machine still works because it reserves a few % for the system for just this case
[10:40] <critical_max> sl33k_, just delete some files before continuing the install
[10:40] <charlos> hello again
[10:40] <v_v> sl33k_: you can sudo apt-get autoclean to remove the old packages
[10:41] <charlos> that name channel for ircd-ircu help  ?
[10:41] <codemagician> erUSUL, it says its downloading .exe files?
[10:41] <pauru> critical_max, Hey max, how can i install my previous ff?
[10:41] <antoine__> join #osp
[10:41] <critical_max> m_ you can also just run "dmesg" for a display of all the recent messages, but tailing the log allows you realtime
[10:41] <v_v> codemagician: does it work ?
[10:41] <erUSUL> codemagician: just wait for it to finish
[10:41] <critical_max> pauru: by removing the PPA repository in software center, but why on earth would you want to go back? addons?
[10:41] <codemagician> erUSUL, i guess those are like zip files?
[10:41] <erUSUL> codemagician: yes
[10:41] <randy2009> Hi, i have these permissions set: -r-sr-xr-x  1 nagios nagios 104K Jul  9  2009 check_icmp, i can't execute the binary because i need to be root, but i set the setuid flag, but it's not working, what am i missing?
[10:42] <bullgard4> What package is the Disk Mounter applet associated with (in order to report a bug)?
[10:42] <v_v> randy2009: because the ownser is not root
[10:42] <codemagician> erUSUL, it made no different to FF plugins
[10:42] <v_v> randy2009: when you run it, the effective user is nagios
[10:42] <critical_max> v_v yeah that one usually frees up a ton of space if a machine is THAT crufty..
[10:42] <sl33k_> critical_max, v_v: dpkg was interrupted during autoclean. What could i do now?
[10:42] <v_v> randy2009: not root as you expected
[10:42] <critical_max> sl33k_, you just have to delete one of your own user files, like a movie or music *cough*
[10:42] <v_v> critical_max: :)
[10:43] <v_v> sl33k_: any error messages ?
[10:43] <critical_max> sl33k_, the apt-get autoclean process was trying to clear up the same thing that led to the previous error, is why that didn't work
[10:43] <m_> critical_max: http://paste.ubuntu.com/584218/
[10:43] <ubuntulover> hello
[10:43] <pauru> critical_max, Yeah...
[10:43] <erUSUL> codemagician: flash is not listed?
[10:43] <joris> What's going on when I can't remove /usr/sbin/sshd ? (Operation not permitted)
[10:43] <joris> It's stopping me from reinstalling opensshd
[10:44] <sl33k_> v_v: dpkg: failed to write status record about `libslf4j-java' to `/var/lib/dpkg/status': No space left on device
[10:44] <m_> critical_max: is there anyway to run win driver for it?
[10:44] <randy2009> v_v: ok, so i need to set owner to root
[10:44] <charlos> that name channel for ircd-ircu help  ?
[10:44] <randy2009> thnx
[10:44] <v_v> sl33k_: can you give me a message of 'df -h'
[10:44] <charlos> hey again
[10:44] <v_v> randy2009: np
[10:44] <critical_max>  m_ so that is counting the period of time that you inserted a flash card into the reader, correct?
[10:44] <charlos> what do u say me ?
[10:45] <critical_max> m_ not for flash readers typically; there is "ndiswrapper" for Windows wireless drivers, from the bad old days when native Linux support was rarer
[10:45] <critical_max> m_ the next step is really to identify the card reader physically, get inside the case if you have to
[10:45] <m_> critical_max: card was inside when run it
[10:45] <codemagician> erUSUL, only shockwave flash from Gnash
[10:45] <v_v> sl33k_: if the autoclean doesn't work, you can just cd '/var/cache/apt/archives' and remove the deb files
[10:45] <randy2009> v_v: hehe, i need to set setuid agian if i change owner, nice (good security)
[10:45] <v_v> randy2009: yeah,
[10:45] <critical_max> m_ you need to run tail -f /var/log/dmesg *while* removing and then inserting your flash card, please
[10:45] <erUSUL> codemagician: uninstall gnash
[10:46] <vietred> hi, how to make mail (in indicator applet) recognize thunderbird?
[10:46] <critical_max> m_ that will show us any related messages that are generated
[10:46] <sl33k_> v_v: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/358212/
[10:46] <m_> critical_max: ok. doing it now
[10:46] <critical_max> m_ also we still don't know what your model of PC is, often you can google the card reader model from there
[10:47] <critical_max> and then google "linux card reader [my model of PC]" and find other people with same problem and the solution if it exists.
[10:47] <v_v> sl33k_: are you working on a live cd ?
[10:47] <critical_max> or "linux [my model of card reader]"
[10:47] <codemagician> erUSUL, it now shows Shockwave Flash 10.2 r152
[10:47] <erUSUL> codemagician: good
[10:47] <codemagician> erUSUL, its working
[10:47] <erUSUL> !yay | codemagician
[10:47] <sl33k_> v_v: no, wubi installed
[10:47] <littlegreen> Hey guys! I'm having trouble sharing my HP printer with windows users.... it's pretty much already set-up and shared, they just don't see it...
[10:48] <critical_max> sl33k_, it looks like your wubi partition is full, is it that 6.5G loopback correct?
[10:48] <joris> rm: cannot remove `/usr/sbin/sshd': Operation not permitted
[10:48] <joris> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 290K 2008-05-14 16:39 /usr/sbin/sshd
[10:48] <joris> wtf?
[10:48] <codemagician> erUSUL, so I guess you can't have gnash and adobe side by side?
[10:48] <m_> critical_max: same thing.  it's hp mini 110-3030nr
[10:48] <v_v> sl33k_: the root partition is full. can you release some space ?
[10:48] <critical_max> sl33k_, resizing wubi partition is not practical, i have looked into that extensively. you need to uninstall wubi and reinstall with a larger partition size, it is much much faster than resizing
[10:48] <erUSUL> codemagician: no
[10:48] <critical_max> been there, done that
[10:48] <critical_max> m_ ok now we're getting somewhere :) one sec
[10:49] <m_> critical_max: it seems that it's only for win
[10:49] <codemagician> erUSUL, I switched before because Adobe kept crashing
[10:49] <v_v> joris: do you have a proper permission ?
[10:49] <v_v> joris: like, are you root ?
[10:49] <joris> i am root yes.
[10:49] <critical_max> sl33k_, but you should still be able to remove something from your home directory under wubi for right now... to fix it
[10:49] <sl33k_> critical_max: yea
[10:50] <v_v> joris: if you just want to reinstall sshd , try apt-get purge openssh-server
[10:50] <littlegreen> any ideas anybody?
[10:50] <critical_max> m_ OK according to softpedia, you have a Realtek USB 2.0 brand card reader
[10:50] <joris> v_v: Package openssh-server is not installed, so not removed
[10:50] <sl33k_> v_v: i am in archives directory now, how could i remove deb packages from here?
[10:50] <v_v> joris: did you try the 'purge' ?
[10:50] <joris> v_v: Yes, it gives me the said output
[10:50] <v_v> sl33k_: a simple way. sudo rm *deb
[10:50] <v_v> sl33k_: :)
[10:50] <critical_max> m_ the latest windows driver is "6.1.7600.48"
[10:51] <m_> critical_max: correct
[10:51] <v_v> joris: ps -ef | grep sshd
[10:51] <erUSUL> sl33k_: sudo apt-get clean
[10:51] <joris> v_v: nussing
[10:51] <erUSUL> sl33k_: do not go around doing "sudo rm" in system directories
[10:51] <pauru> critical_max, i removed the ppas and reloaded, but i can still see firefox 4 in synaptic
[10:52] <v_v> joris: wierd, anything of   dmesg | tail
[10:52] <dyd> hi all
[10:52] <littlegreen> could anything go wrong when upgrading from 9.10 to 10.04 LTS?
[10:52] <sl33k_> v_v: unable to resolve host ubuntu
[10:52] <joris> v_v: Nothing in particular that makes any sense to me
[10:52] <sl33k_> erUSUL: unable to resolve host ubuntu
[10:52] <erUSUL> littlegreen: yes it could. nothing is 100% safe in this life :)
[10:52] <charlos> hey
[10:53] <charlos> help me please
[10:53] <charlos> Starting irc server daemon: ircd-ircu.
[10:53] <charlos> root@ubuntu:/home/charlos#
[10:53] <critical_max> m_ see http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1519294.html last post
[10:53] <FloodBot2> charlos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:53] <erUSUL> sl33k_: "sudo ls" fails the same way ?
[10:53] <v_v> joris: do you have selinux enabled ?
[10:53] <charlos> how to command cd ircd-ircu  ?
[10:53] <critical_max> m_ someone else with your same problem this month. I would start looking hard at Launchpad and find out if your problem is listed as an Ubuntu bug yet.
[10:53] <sl33k_> critical_max, v_v: is it 6gb because i selected 5 gb install for wubi?
[10:53] <joris> v_v: How do I find out?
[10:53] <littlegreen> erUSUL, do you think upgrading my system might resolve my printer-sharing related problem in any way?
[10:53] <critical_max> sl33k_, yeah, that's tiny, you want at least 10-15GB even for a decent test installation
[10:53] <v_v> joris: ok, i guess you don'y
[10:53] <v_v> joris: ok, i guess you don't
[10:54] <critical_max> sl33k_, just to make SURE you won't run out of room like you just did
[10:54] <dyd> i'm a ubuntu newbie: i'd like to put some of "places" icon in the panel to a open them quickly, but right-clicking over the voice in places menu won't show any menu, it just opens... any hint?
[10:54] <joris> v_v: I have a /var/lib/dpkg/info/libselinux1.list
[10:54] <sl33k_> erUSUL: yea, with one more error: `lock partial` shown
[10:54] <erUSUL> littlegreen: how would i know? i do not know anything about the problem :)
[10:54] <v_v> joris: when does it happen when you try to install openssh-server ?
[10:54] <littlegreen> well I have a HP printer set-up and shared but win users don't see it...
[10:54] <erUSUL> sl33k_: you changed your hostnane?
[10:55] <sl33k_> critical_max: what could be possible now without installing it again
[10:55] <joris> v_v: When I try to install openssh_server, it gets operation not permitted removing /usr/sbin/sshd
[10:55] <erUSUL> !9.10
[10:55] <critical_max> dyd: just drag what you want to link, from the File Manager, to the menu bar
[10:55] <critical_max> dyd: folders etc
[10:55] <critical_max> sl33k_, if you can't think of any files to delete I don't know what to tell you
[10:55] <m_> critical_max: OK, thanks!!!
[10:56] <critical_max> sl33k_, there has to be something you can remove
[10:56] <sl33k_> erUSUL: no i suppose
[10:56] <v_v> joris: 'getenforce', any output ?
[10:56] <joris> command not found
[10:56] <critical_max> m_ You're welcome, and I really mean it about looking for the bug on Launchpad. You can follow the bug, and get an email when the status changes. Very helpful.
[10:56] <v_v> joris: ls -Z
[10:56] <critical_max> m_ Or if you don't find it you can report it and it will get fixed (eventually (probably) ) :)
[10:56] <dyd> critical_max: with file manager you mean nautilus?
[10:57] <DJones> !ff4 > DJones
[10:57] <joris> v_v: What should I look for?
[10:57] <critical_max> dyd: yes
[10:57] <critical_max> File Browser it shows as, pardon me
[10:57] <v_v> joris: if you see some more information than '?' that means selinux is enabled, anywhere
[10:57] <sl33k_> critical_max: my music n stuff is in different partition, so how could i manually delete from the full partition?
[10:57] <m_> critical_max: thanks. appreciate it honestly:)
[10:57] <ikonia> selinux is not installed by default on ubuntu
[10:57] <joris> v_v: I get ? for every binary in there
[10:57] <dyd> ok, if i drag from the left icon list the icon i want to move it justs don't drop the icon in the panel
[10:57] <dyd> those are some network links
[10:57] <dyd> does that make difference?
[10:58] <v_v> ikonia: he got a file sshd cannot be removed even if he is root
[10:58] <dyd> they are like \\ipaddress\c$
[10:58] <ikonia> v_v: that doesn't mean it's ssh]
[10:58] <ikonia> he probably can't remove it as it's in use
[10:58] <v_v> ikonia: and dmesg show nothing, any idea ?
[10:58] <joris> v_v: I can execute /usr/bin/sshd just fine. It says /etc/sshd_config is missing, which it is.
[10:58] <ikonia> probabably the file is in use
[10:58] <joris> v_v: I just can't rename or delete it
[10:58] <critical_max> sl33k_, you don't have a wubi-specific home folder?
[10:58] <ikonia> !info openssh-server hardy
[10:58] <critical_max> /home/sl33k or whatever
[10:59] <v_v> ikonia: linux allows you to remove even if it's in use
[10:59] <ikonia> v_v: not if it's open
[10:59] <v_v> ikonia: oh, yes, im sure about that
[10:59] <ikonia> v_v: sure about what /
[11:00] <v_v> ikonia: ok. never mind
[11:00] <joris> I'm no longer using sshd
[11:00] <ikonia> joris: run fuser against it
[11:00] <joris> root@sol:/usr/sbin# fuser sshd
[11:00] <joris> root@sol:/usr/sbin#
[11:00] <critical_max> sl33k_, in /home/sleek/Downloads or /home/sleek/Desktop are likely places to find something you could delete for now. But really. You will just run into this problem again tomorrow, and the next day, etc, and you should really  just uninstall wubi and reinstall it. Takes a matter of 10 minutes.
[11:00] <ikonia> joris: use the full path, fuser /usr/sbin/sshd
[11:00] <ikonia> joris: also why is your update not going to the current hardy version
[11:00] <joris> no output
[11:00] <sl33k_> critical_max: in the file system, i see usr, bin, var. those kind of directories
[11:01] <joris> I've done numerous apt-get updates
[11:01] <ikonia> joris: why is it not updating to the current openssh-server version
[11:01] <Us3r_Unfriendly> i remember using wubi...what a horrible experience
[11:01] <critical_max> sl33k_, /home/youruser  not there i take it?
[11:01] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sl33k_: ~/
[11:01] <joris> ikonia: how do you know?
[11:01] <v_v> joris: take a look at 'mount'
[11:01] <sl33k_> critical_max: ya found it
[11:02] <joris> v_v: securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
[11:02] <critical_max> sl33k_, desktop / downloads / documents check for stuff you can remove
[11:02] <ikonia> joris: you showed me the package version it was going to update to, and I know the current version
[11:02] <critical_max> sl33k_, and get used to the idea of reinstalling. take notes on what you installed first if you like.
[11:02] <EClaesson> I accidentaly removed the shut down menu from the top panel (gnome). The menu with Shut down, restart, hibernate, log out/change user and such. How can i get it back? I can't find it in the Add To Panel window
[11:02] <joris> ikonia: ic
[11:02] <v_v> joris: the /usr/sbin partition  , is it mount readonly ?
[11:02] <critical_max> sl33k_, so extra apps can be restored quickly with the new install
[11:02] <ikonia> v_v: excellent call
[11:02] <joris> v_v: I don't have such a partition afaik
[11:03] <ikonia> you must have a partition it's mounted off
[11:03] <v_v> joris: if you don't have a partition for /usr , just the /
[11:03] <sl33k_> critical_max: i am on low bandwith 256k from third world country, reinstalling wubi is a pain in the ass. only deleting option remains with me?
[11:03] <critical_max> Us3r_Unfriendly, it actually had its strong points to me (easy installation and did not destabilize Windows at all) but this particular pain point of not being able to resize its partition (wth) really hurt me too
[11:03] <joris> root@sol:/# touch /foo.txt
[11:03] <joris> root@sol:/#
[11:03] <joris> not r/o
[11:04] <ikonia> joris: what does ps -ef | grep ssh show
[11:04] <scarleo> EClaesson: Add to panel -> Shut down...
[11:04] <critical_max> Us3r_Unfriendly, All the virtual machine controllers can do it, and my impression was they were doing loopback too. I could be wrong on that...
[11:04] <joris> ikonia: just the grep
[11:04] <ikonia> and what happens if you manually rm -rf /usr/sbin/sshd
[11:04] <joris> rm: cannot remove `/usr/sbin/sshd': Operation not permitted
[11:04] <critical_max> sl33k_, I see, you deleted the wubi installer already?
[11:04] <Us3r_Unfriendly> critical_max: yeah, I haven't used wubi in years and years, couldn't tell you...I just always used gparted and installed on the freespace that was created
[11:04] <ikonia> joris: show me the output of "id"
[11:04] <sl33k_> critical_max: and what would happen to my packages if i reinstall?
[11:04] <joris> ikonia: uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
[11:05] <Us3r_Unfriendly> joris: sudo rm -fr /usr/sbin/sshd
[11:05] <ikonia> joris: why are you root ?
[11:05] <critical_max> sl33k_, it would ALL be gone from wubi when you uninstall. you would need to take notes on what you did if you've been working on it a while.
[11:05] <EClaesson> scarleo: That's not the same drop down menu that were there at when i installed
[11:05] <Donnerland> when ist the release date for 11.04?
[11:05] <ikonia> Donnerland: think it through 04 2001
[11:05] <joris> ikonia: because I'm getting Operation not permitted
[11:05] <ikonia> 2011
[11:05] <v_v> joris: whatis the output of 'df' ?
[11:05] <joris> Us3r_Unfriendly: Same , operation not permitted
[11:05] <Fleck> where is firefox-4 in repos?
[11:06] <joris> v_v: http://pastie.org/1703462
[11:06] <jrib> !firefox4 | Fleck
[11:06] <Fleck> thx
[11:06] <Us3r_Unfriendly> joris: are you logged in as root?
[11:06] <joris> Us3r_Unfriendly: I'm sudo su'ed
[11:06] <ikonia> joris: can you show me the output of ls -la /usr/sbin/sshd please in a pastebin
[11:06] <Us3r_Unfriendly> joris: su -              and then          rm -fr /usr/sbin/sshd
[11:06] <scarleo> EClaesson: Try Add to panel -> Indicator applet session then
[11:07] <jrib> Us3r_Unfriendly, joris: wait, why are you deleting sshd?
[11:07] <joris> ikonia: -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 290K 2008-05-14 16:39 /usr/sbin/sshd . still want it in a paste bin?
[11:07] <critical_max> sl33k_, i would say just plan to re download the wubi installer when you can. Did you find anything in /home/youruser to delete yet? to solve the updater problem?
[11:07] <ikonia> joris: why is that file 777
[11:07] <joris> jrib: Trying to reinstall it. remove succeeded, install fails
[11:07] <joris> ikonia: no idea
[11:07] <Us3r_Unfriendly> jrib: perhaps he's trying to remove it
[11:07] <jrib> Us3r_Unfriendly: use APT
[11:07] <ikonia> joris: someone has been playing with your system then as that file should not be 777
[11:08] <Us3r_Unfriendly> jrib: unless it's unsuccessful
[11:08] <critical_max> joris: yeah, unless that was you that changed the permissions, giant red flag
[11:08] <joris> ok.
[11:08] <joris> still, I'd like to reinstall openssh.
[11:08] <ikonia> joris: are you listening, your system may have been compromised
[11:08] <v_v> ikonia: interesting
[11:08] <sl33k_> critical_max: not bigger items
[11:08] <ikonia> joris: that file should not be 777
[11:08] <sl33k_> :(
[11:08] <lucid_j> Hi, how could I use a transparent theme on Ubuntu 10.04? I have nto made any changes on WM, so I am using just compiz.
[11:09] <joris> strange
[11:09] <EClaesson> scarleo: That's the one. Thank you. One more question. The notification area in the panel, the one with battery, network and such. How do i move it? I can't right click and select move as it get a context menu for the icon in the notification applet i click
[11:09] <v_v> joris: is this a server ?
[11:09] <joris> v_v: yes
[11:10] <jjp> joris: can you give us the md5sum of /usr/sbin/sshd ?
[11:10] <sl33k_> critical_max: 1 25 mb directory deleted
[11:10] <jjp> joris: along with pkg version
[11:10] <v_v> joris: if you didn't change the attr of the sshd, you'd better backup your files and install a new system
[11:10] <sl33k_> s/1/one
[11:10] <joris> ce8b877f9956bb75ad4de5014c7e5cf0  /usr/sbin/sshd
[11:10] <joris> v_v: I might
[11:10] <critical_max> sl33k_, also check /var/cache/apt/archives and manually remove .deb files in there
[11:11] <jjp> joris: which pg version ?
[11:11] <sl33k_> critical_max: ok
[11:11] <jjp> pkg ?
[11:11] <joris> jjp: how do I check?
[11:11] <critical_max> joris: sshd -v
[11:11] <EClaesson> scarleo, nevermind, i solved it :)
[11:11] <EClaesson> Thanks by the way :)
[11:11] <joris> sshd version OpenSSH_4.7p1 Debian-8ubuntu1.2
[11:11] <scarleo> EClaesson: I think that's a matter of finding the right spot to click, not sure xactly what you mean. Make sure Lock to panel is unticked, then select move. Or move the other applets and that one will adjust automatically
[11:11] <scarleo> EClaesson: Ok, good
[11:11] <jjp> joris: dpkg -l |grep openssh-server
[11:11] <ale_> 123456789a
[11:12] <joris> jjp: no output
[11:12] <adrian> jgj
[11:12] <adrian> hi
[11:12] <dyd> i'm trying to add this remote folder icon to my panel... but won't work!! i added a custom application launcher with this app: nautilus ../../149.132.120.83\d$
[11:12] <jjp> joris: what spit dpkg -l |grep ssh ?
[11:12] <Guest72794> Hay!
[11:12] <joris> jjp: http://pastie.org/1703482
[11:13] <lucid_j> Hi, how could I use a transparent theme on Ubuntu 10.04? I have nto made any changes on WM, so I am using just compiz.
[11:13] <critical_max> joris: that is a 3 year old version of sshd and might have been one of the ones vulnerable to a serious exploit.
[11:13] <joris> critical_max: I would gladly update it, if I could install it
[11:13] <arand_> dyd I think you might get a problem using relative paths in a launcher...
[11:14] <jjp> joris: that's really weird: your ssh server version appears to be compiled for debian / ubuntu, but the pkg is not recorded as installed in your database
[11:14] <joris> jjp: I've removed the apt package an hour ago, and did a apt-get clean too
[11:14] <Us3r_Unfriendly> lucid_j: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHg5E3nh6Rs&hd=1
[11:14] <joris> jjp: just the sshd binary sticks
[11:15] <critical_max> joris: your situation reeks of compromised
[11:15] <arand_> dyd: Also shouldn't that be just //IP/$d
[11:15] <critical_max> joris: i'm still looking for the proper md5sum for that version
[11:15] <critical_max> joris: the fact it doesn't show in the package manger as jjp said, is really sketchy
[11:15] <critical_max> 777 is REALLY sketchy
[11:15] <lucid_j> Us3r_Unfiendly: That's not transparent. It's  just transparency on terminal backgound..
[11:16] <dyd> arand_: if i do that it gives an error of path not found cause it tries to go /home/user/\\ip\d$
[11:16] <Us3r_Unfriendly> lucid_j: ccsm
[11:16] <critical_max> joris: you might want to start looking at things like ~/.bash_history for all your users. sloppy hackers don't cover their traces well. might find quick evidence of compromise. might not.
[11:16] <joris> critical_max: How does one circumvent Operation not permitted even when they are root?
[11:16] <jjp> joris: what's the output ot lsattr /usr/sbin/sshd
[11:16] <jjp> ?
[11:16] <joris> critical_max: Right now I just want a clean sshd.
[11:16] <lucid_j> I use just compiz
[11:17] <joris> jjp: ----i------------- /usr/sbin/sshd
[11:17] <critical_max> joris: recovering from a compromised system is well beyond the context of this channel's help and you need to do some research
[11:17] <Kimmen> lucid_j: take a look at: http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=102&PHPSESSID=81a0ba7850b00097c15adf58e6d7cd26
[11:17] <critical_max> joris: let me keep looking for that md5sum, sec
[11:17] <quiescens> mm, immutable
[11:17] <jjp> joris: for fresh install then thus apt-get install openssh-server
[11:17] <Us3r_Unfriendly> lucid_j: sudo apt-get install compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compizconfig-settings-manager
[11:17] <lucid_j> Kimmen: I downloaded all of them but I cannot install them
[11:17] <jjp> joris: you're rooted, I think
[11:17] <joris> apt-get install openssh-server doesn't work
[11:18] <Us3r_Unfriendly> lucid_j: that'll help you.  then alt + F2 and type ccsm
[11:18] <jjp> joris: yeah, won't run correctly at least for sshd being immutable
[11:18] <joris> how do I fix sshd being immutable?
[11:18] <ikonia> joris: re-install
[11:18] <joris> ikonia: the system?
[11:18] <critical_max> joris: the problem is it's not just sshd
[11:19] <jjp> joris: you should disconnect this server now
[11:19] <Smekerel> hello...
[11:19] <ikonia> joris: it looks like you ahve been compromised
[11:19] <joris> I know what it looks like
[11:19] <lucid_j> I have not compizconfig-settings-manager installed
[11:19] <ikonia> joris: ok , so then you'll need to re-install
[11:19] <lucid_j> just compiz
[11:19] <critical_max> joris: its deadly serious, you could have criminals passing stolen stuff over your lines right now. I found http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/openssh-server but I don't see md5sum links...
[11:19] <Us3r_Unfriendly> lucid_j: then go ahead and use that command.  your going to need ccsm to atleast configure compiz's settings
[11:20] <critical_max> joris: there is NO way to be sure you have recovered without a reformat and reinstall.
[11:20] <lucid_j> Us3r_Unfriendly: Could I do that without configure?
[11:20] <joris> hm.
[11:20] <jjp> joris: can you find a way to share the sshd binary you have ?
[11:20] <Us3r_Unfriendly> lucid_j: ccsm stands for compizconfig-settings-manager
[11:20] <joris> jjp: sure, no problem
[11:20] <sl33k_> critical_max: sorry to ask, but the "no disk space" problem still there?
[11:20] <dyd> shieeet, i did it ;)
[11:21] <Us3r_Unfriendly> lucid_j: I don't believe so
[11:21] <lucid_j> Us3r_Unfriendly: I know what it is
[11:21] <joris> jjp: http://hoorayforinternet.com/sshd
[11:21] <critical_max> joris: not trying to be alarmist at all. but at the LEAST you need to disconnect the machine from the internet to further analyze it.
[11:21] <dyd> don't know why but it had to be nautilus "/media/E25C67D55C67A351/Documents and Settings/user.domain/Desktop/"
[11:21] <lucid_j> And what should I coonfigure if I install ccsm?
[11:21] <joris> critical_max: I only have access to the machine over the internets.
[11:21] <dyd> fail this is to local hd :||
[11:21] <critical_max> joris: from everything you said it's been rooted, and I bet you can confirm that, but you need to reduce your liability by disconnecting it so the organized criminals that owned it don't get to use it
[11:21] <critical_max> joris: do you have hands on site or no
[11:22] <joris> critical_max: no, the server is in a different country
[11:22] <critical_max> joris: or is it a vhost?
[11:22] <joris> it's a dedicated machine
[11:22] <young> /exit
[11:22] <young> quit
[11:22] <critical_max> joris: normal thing to do is configure and ship a new hard drive then
[11:22] <sl33k_> is there a method to repartition wubi?
[11:22] <ikonia> joris: it's up to you what you do, and how you proceed
[11:22] <joris> sure. I just don't want to lose my dns and mailserver before I'm sure I can get them up just as quickly
[11:23] <critical_max> joris: thats all I can say, take it serious, because you have enough evidence to suspect being rooted, and that's criminal liability in some places if you let it go. i dont want to say more, really.
[11:23] <ikonia> joris: again - that's up to you how you proceed
[11:23] <MrGoodkat> is it possible to copy thunderbird settings and emails from ubuntu to windows?
[11:23] <joris> I have a remote emergency boot system, I'm pretty sure I can use that to reinstall the system
[11:23] <sl33k_>  is there a method to repartition wubi?
[11:23] <ikonia> MrGoodkat: I think there is an export option
[11:23] <critical_max> joris: that would be good. :)
[11:23] <joris> Just getting named and postfix back up won't be easy for me
[11:23] <joris> don't really care about anything else
[11:24] <critical_max> joris: be extremely sure that you do not expose any service to the internet before it is fully configured and strong password
[11:24] <sl33k_>  is there a method to repartition wubi?
[11:24] <ikonia> joris: can't really progress this any more
[11:24] <critical_max> joris: on the next time
[11:24] <ikonia> sl33k_: please stop asking and wait for a response
[11:24] <sl33k_> my bad
[11:24] <critical_max> sl33k_, I answered that question in detail. You cannot resize the partition without MUCH more work than to simply uninstall and reinstall. It is a major flaw in WUBI.
[11:24] <MrGoodkat> ikonia: there is only an import function
[11:25] <ikonia> MrGoodkat: how odd, if there is an import option, you'd suspect an export option too
[11:26] <sl33k_> critical_max: i dont know how to mount the partitions after a reinstall
[11:26] <Us3r_Unfriendly> lucid_j: http://img84.imageshack.us/i/screenshot1qi.png/ http://img833.imageshack.us/i/screenshotmlm.png/
[11:26] <critical_max> sl33k_, it lets you choose the install size for WUBI when you install
[11:26] <critical_max> sl33k_, just pick something like 15 or 20 gigs :)
[11:27] <jjp> joris: what's output of ldd /usr/sbin/sshd ?
[11:27] <lucid_j> Us3r_Unfriendly: That's also not transparent!
[11:28] <sl33k_> critical_max: and the after install mounting?
[11:28] <Us3r_Unfriendly> lucid_j: I believe your wrong sir
[11:28] <jjp> joris: currently found nothing unusual in ur version of sshd; could someone find md5sum for sshd compiled for 64 bits ?
[11:28] <lucid_j> It is black
[11:28] <critical_max> sl33k_, huh? exactly as it is now
[11:28] <lucid_j> the taskbar also is black..
[11:28] <Us3r_Unfriendly> lucid_j: look closer
[11:28] <sl33k_> critical_max: but i am a newbie, will it be non-trivial
[11:29] <critical_max> sl33k_, you already did it once
[11:29] <Us3r_Unfriendly> lucid_j: your talking about the panel??  I thought you were talking about the windows that were open
[11:29] <sl33k_> critical_max: i took help
[11:29] <joris> jjp: http://pastie.org/1703522
[11:29] <s3r3n1t7> jjp, you mean the one from the repo?
[11:29] <lucid_j> Us3r_Unfriendly: I am talking about a complete trasparent theme
[11:30] <Kimmen> lucid_j: you need emerald to be able to use compiz themes
[11:30] <sl33k_> critical_max: does wubi have to download ubuntu over the interwebs?
[11:30] <lucid_j> Ok, so let's forget about it!
[11:30] <lucid_j> thanks anyway
[11:30] <critical_max> sl33k_, i'd check the website. I don't know these days.
[11:30] <Kimmen> lucid_j: you got your answer
[11:30] <Kimmen> install emerald, which is a theme manager to use with compiz
[11:31] <Kimmen> it supports transparent themes
[11:31] <Us3r_Unfriendly> lucid_j: right click the panel "taskbar?" and go to the Properties then to the background tab and then click solid color and there's a switch for transparency there.  then to ccsm for everything else
[11:31] <lucid_j> Kimmen: I have installes emerald and ccms previously, on  a previous ubuntu instalation and I messed it up
[11:32] <critical_max> jjp: remember it reports as a 2008 version of sshd, OpenSSH_4.7p1 Debian-8ubuntu1.2
[11:32] <Us3r_Unfriendly> lucid_j: metacity --replace
[11:32] <lucid_j> I ended up without any WM
[11:32] <joris> gotta attend to some customers but will monitor your questions to me. thank you all so far for your time and attention.
[11:32] <lucid_j> So I want to leave it as it is by default
[11:32] <Us3r_Unfriendly> lucid_j: if your going to troll i can't help you.  you live and learn in the linux community.  if your afraid, then you shouldn't do it.
[11:33] <Us3r_Unfriendly> sorry
[11:33] <lucid_j> But, it would be great if I could install a trasparent theme as I can do with normal gnome themes..
[11:33] <cyphase> i just got an epson stylus cx4600. when i plugged it in, i was immediately able to scan a document with simple-scan. however, after the first scan, simple-scan says there's no device. anyone know what the problem might be?
[11:34] <Us3r_Unfriendly> lucid_j: emerald, ccsm, panel properties or some docks properties
[11:34] <phoenixsampras> cyphase: you need to buy a linux compatible scanner
[11:34] <lucid_j> without emerald isn;t possible?
[11:34] <wild> cyphase is it still plugged in?
[11:34] <Kimmen> lucid_j: it's possible to set transparency to everything using compiz
[11:34] <cyphase> wild, yea
[11:34] <Kimmen> but not with a metacity theme
[11:34] <lucid_j> Kimmen: Using ccms?
[11:35] <Kimmen> yes
[11:35] <Us3r_Unfriendly> metacity is your grandma's wm
[11:35] <Paddez> What's the current javac package? sun-java6 can't be found.
[11:35] <critical_max> Joris: Your SSH version (assuming it's reporting accurately) Predates a serious vulnerability in ssh package. Please read: http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2008/msg00152.html and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=793517. It is extremely likely that your server was compromised as the vulnerability was serious.
[11:35] <wild> cyphase shut it all downn and try again
[11:35] <Us3r_Unfriendly> emerald/compiz is usually for the cool kids
[11:35] <lucid_j> I looked up on running processes and is running just compiz, there is no metacity
[11:35] <joris> critical_max: ty
[11:35] <lucid_j> I'll install ccms
[11:35] <critical_max> Joris: I just found the vulnerability I referred to earlier, and yes, your system (why was it not updated) was vulnerable
[11:36] <joris> critical_max: afaik I was up to date with hardy heron
[11:36] <s3r3n1t7> joris, if i may jump in ... i recommend you set up your firewall to only allow you to access it, block any other access and proceed after that.
[11:36] <terry> Paddez: sun-java6-jre  is probably what you are looking for.
[11:36] <cyphase> wild, if i just disconnect it from the computer and plug back in, it works
[11:37] <joris> s3r3n1t7: thanks, except right now I don't know how static my IP address is. but good idea.
[11:37] <critical_max> Joris: http://rackerhacker.com/2011/03/09/strategies-for-detecting-a-compromised-linux-server/ may give you more tools for figuring out what's going on.
[11:37] <joris> critical_max: thank
[11:37] <joris> s
[11:37] <ikonia> joris: if you don't have a static IP then you should not be running mail or dns on it
[11:37] <joris> ikonia: I mean my workstation's IP.
[11:37] <wild> cyphase I guess it is working now then?
[11:37] <ikonia> joris: ah
[11:37] <terry> Paddez: apt-cache search sun-java  will reveal what we have in repos
[11:38] <s3r3n1t7> !java | Paddez
[11:38] <NielsMkn> why doesn't flash player work in ubuntu 10.10 :S
[11:38] <Paddez> terry: Thanks.
[11:38] <terry> Paddez: NP
[11:38] <terry> NielsMkn: It should.  What seems to be the problem?
[11:38] <charlos> root@ubuntu:/home/charlos# tar -zxf ircu2.10.12.10.tar
[11:38] <charlos> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[11:38] <charlos> tar: Child returned status 1
[11:38] <charlos> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[11:38] <charlos> root@ubuntu:/home/charlos#
[11:38] <FloodBot2> charlos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:38] <charlos> what man ?
[11:38] <rzyua> Hi everyone. Does any of you happen to know how to downmix all channels to mono in Ubuntu 10.10?
[11:39] <cyphase> wild, i tried that before. it seems to be working for more than one scan now, but i don't know if it'll last
[11:39] <NielsMkn> I did but now I get 'an error occured while trying to play the video' on all the youtube videos
[11:39] <wild> cyphase It might have been a loose or not so good cable
[11:40] <NielsMkn> well I was playing a video in firefox and the plugin finder service told me to install three plugins
[11:40] <cyphase> wild, yea, maybe
[11:40] <terry> NielsMkn: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound
[11:40] <lucid_j> 	
[11:40] <lucid_j> Us3r_Unfriendly: I installed ccsm, is it simple to set transparency on?
[11:41] <terry> NielsMkn: apt-cache search flashplugin    #Will reveal what there is in the repos
[11:41] <terry> NielsMkn: What three plugins did it say?
[11:41] <rcmaehl> Hey
[11:42] <NielsMkn> a non free plugin and a installer
[11:42] <rcmaehl> ff4 is working it's way up the charts right next to chrome. A large amount of FF 4 users are linux users. Why is this?
[11:42] <NielsMkn> got two results from the search
[11:42] <lucid_j> Kimmen: I installed ccsm, but I cannot find any option for trasparency, any help?
[11:44] <terry> NielsMkn: Sorry... Correction:  adobe-flashplugin - Adobe Flash Player plugin version 10
[11:44] <terry> NielsMkn: apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[11:45] <arand_> rcmaehl: Not really a support question... I would guess GNU/Linux users are more technical and more likely to adopt early... Anyway, #ubuntu-offtopic is likely more relevant for that question.
[11:45] <terry> NielsMkn: Do you see adobe-flashplugin  ?
[11:45] <Karen_m> !firefox4
[11:46] <NielsMkn> hmm I'm using 64 bit os. Will it work?
[11:46] <tasse> mann
[11:47] <arand_> NielsMkn: -installer and -nonfree are the same (-non-free is just a transitional package to -install)
[11:48] <NielsMkn> oh
[11:49] <EClaesson> I installed firefox 4 via sudo apt-get install firefox-4.0 after adding the needed repos. It installs fine but "About Firefox" gives me 3.6.15
[11:49] <EClaesson> Is this normal?
[11:49] <EClaesson> Nevermind
[11:49] <EClaesson> sorry
[11:49] <ikonia> EClaesson: contact the PPA owner, we don't support it
[11:50] <the_german> EClaesson: You now have probably installed both version...just start the correct one
[11:50] <laserbeam3> guys... I got a small problem with ubuntu keyrings... I got (for some insane reason) 2 password folders (or whatever they are called) in the keyring - one is "default", the other is "login"
[11:51] <laserbeam3> the problem - every time I login... I have to insert my default keyring password for about 4 times (because of the default programs that come on)
[11:51] <laserbeam3> moreover... new passwords are added to the default keyring, not the login one
[11:51] <laserbeam3> any solutions?
[11:57] <blackguard-> anyone can help a newby with a dual boot installation ?
[11:59] <blackguard-> anyone can give me some information about swap partition ?
[11:59] <rodrigo__> blackguard-: what kind of information?
[12:00] <soreau> ! swap | blackguard-
[12:02] <kmanzoor> hello
[12:03] <kmanzoor> is Hardy Heron still supported ? i checked this on wikipedia. On kubuntu page it said it is not spported but on the ubuntu page it is mentioned that it is still supported.  I want to install the restricted extra - meaning i want to have the adobe flash. Should i upgrade all the way to 9.10 or i can keep on running Hardy Heron ?
[12:04] <jrib> kmanzoor: you should upgrade to at least 10.04 as ubuntu 8.04 is only supported until april of this year
[12:04] <xardas008> kmanzoor, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[12:04] <xardas008> there is a list
[12:04] <jrib> kmanzoor: since 8.04 and 10.04 are both LTS you can upgrade directly 8.04 -> 10.04
[12:05] <xardas008> at the bottom of the page is a list of the current releases and how long they are supported (8.04 until april 2011, server until 2013)
[12:05] <Pici> kmanzoor, jrib: 8.04 is only supported on the desktop up until April, but the server packages have another 2 years of support.  Additionally, I don't think Kubuntu was granted LTS status for that release, I could be wrong though,.
[12:05] <iceroot> kmanzoor: kubuntu is not supported (only packages which doesnt belong to kde), ubuntu is supported until 2011, the server edition is supported until 2013, kubuntu was only supported until 2010
[12:06] <iceroot> kmanzoor: kubuntu is not supported because its containing kde3, which is long time out of support
[12:06] <magnets> I have a windows PC and a ubuntu pc, two monitors. I want to have my windows desktop "stretch" across both devices so I can use the ubuntu machine as a secondary monitor, is that possible?
[12:07] <kmanzoor> ok. the thing i am running now is kubuntu 8.4 (Hardy). Should i do a step by step upgrade or i can skip some versions
[12:07] <iceroot> magnets: yes, its called "synergy"
[12:08] <iceroot> kmanzoor: make an upgrade to 10.04 directly, but think of you will lost kde3 and will get kde4
[12:08] <jrib> !upgrade | kmanzoor
[12:08] <xardas008> magical, normally ubuntu does that by default. But he will duplicate them. You can go over Preferences -> Monitors and change it
[12:08] <rocktop> Hello I have deleted  some important files how to undelete it please help
[12:08] <magnets> iceroot: I am using synergy, but what I want is more like VNC with a windows virtual desktop
[12:09] <magnets> i.e. the ubuntu machine remotely displays some sort of windows virtual desktop extension
[12:09] <iceroot> you dont want vnc, you want rdp (for windows) and nx (for linux)
[12:09] <blackguard-> how can i create a swap partition, do i need another partition for dual booting? i havent started the ubuntu installation yet, i am stuck at the beginning
[12:10] <tadej_> quit
[12:10] <rocktop> anyidea ?
[12:10] <kmanzoor> ok i am reading the upgrade notes
[12:11] <xardas008> rocktop, you can look in the trash
[12:11] <wild> How do I move a folder from my root folder to the opt folder?
[12:11] <rocktop> xardas008 : has been deleted by rm -rf
[12:12] <mcb_1> wild: $mv  /rott/folder  /opt
[12:12] <wild> I get a permission denied error when I try to move my folder to the opt folder
[12:12] <mcb_1> Wild, you must be loged as root for this....
[12:13] <Linuxpwns> sudo mv /root/foldername /opt
[12:13] <mcb_1> You can "sudo mv ..... "
[12:13] <wild> mcb_1 Do I have to do this in the terminal, can I not just drag and drop?
[12:13] <xardas008> rocktop, ok then there won't be a trash. You can use the following: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/newbie/69673-not-possible-recover-files-deleted-using-rm.html
[12:13] <xardas008> maybe that helps in the future
[12:14] <blackguard-> i am getting this error message : No root file system is defined, Please correct this from the partitioning menu. Anyone can help ?
[12:14] <mcb_1> Use the term, it is much simpler. Just type "sudo mv /root/folder /opt" That is it....
[12:15] <Linuxpwns> quit
[12:16] <kmanzoor> On this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades it is mentioned that Direct upgrades to Kubuntu 10.04 LTS are supported from Kubuntu 9.10 (but not Kubuntu 8.04)." I am using 8.04 (Hardy) and i am confused.
[12:16] <blackguard-> i am getting this error message on the beginning of ubuntu installation : No root file system is defined, Please correct this from the partitioning menu. Anyone can help ?
[12:16] <LetsGo67> Hello people!  How do I find out what other computers are on my network?
[12:16] <rcmaehl> You guys still getting the "How do I get FF4?" question?
[12:17] <rcmaehl> LetsGo67: What OS are they running?
[12:17] <LetsGo67> rcmaehl: Various OSes.  Isn't there a command to find out what the IP and Mac are?
[12:17] <Syria> Hi, how can i update my firefox browser to the latest version?
[12:17] <_antant> hey guys. I've just switched from and ATI card to a GT210 and I'm now getting 'no screens found'. Any idea how I go about sorting it?
[12:18] <rcmaehl> syria
[12:18] <Syria> rcmaehl:  Yes?
[12:18] <rcmaehl> Syria: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:18] <ohsix> LetsGo67: they're in the arp table, but only if th ecomputer has recently seen arp queries for those machines
[12:18] <ohsix> LetsGo67: try arp -an
[12:18] <soreau> blackguard-: You need to define a partition for the system install. Its mount point is /
[12:19] <blackguard-> i cant continue on the installation
[12:19] <Syria> rcmaehl:  Thank you.
[12:19] <rcmaehl> LetsGo67: you can try a network probe by pinging the ip range of the network
[12:19] <soreau> ! who | blackguard-
[12:19] <blackguard-> i am chossing the partition i want to install ubuntu and i am getting this error message
[12:19] <kmanzoor> does this mean i will have to move from 8.4 to 9.10. does anybody know the instruction page for this ?
[12:20] <rcmaehl> !ff4 | rcmaehl
[12:20] <blackguard-> i am not speaking to someone particular, i am asking anyone :)
[12:20] <soreau> blackguard-: sounds like youre doing it wrong
[12:20] <rcmaehl> :D yay they made my command line a factiod for ff4
[12:21] <[TK]D-Fender> kmanzoor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KarmicUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04
[12:21] <blackguard-> soreau: i am at the window to allocate drive space and i looking at the hdd's and partitions
[12:22] <[TK]D-Fender> blackguard-: "Mount as" <-
[12:22] <soreau> blackguard-: The partition you create for ubuntu root file system must have / as mount point
[12:22] <LetsGo67> Ohsix: thanks!
[12:22] <Syria> rcmaehl:  Something went wrong! http://paste.ubuntu.com/584249/
[12:23] <kmanzoor> [TK]D-Fender : thanks for providing that needed link
[12:23] <[TK]D-Fender> kmanzoor: It was ont he page you gave us
[12:24] <mcb_1> LetsGo67 - The is also arp-scan that can get you an mac address from an ip address.
[12:24] <ohsix> and arping
[12:24] <baroluco> hi
[12:24] <ohsix> but if you can ping an ip address, it'll show up in the arp table
[12:24] <rcmaehl> Syria: it's just a minor error it should be automatically fixed with the next sudo apt-get update
[12:24] <[TK]D-Fender> kmanzoor: Upgrade from 8.04 LTS to 10.04 LTS ----> "Because Kubuntu 8.04 was not an LTS release and has passed its end of life, direct upgrades to Kubuntu 10.04 LTS from Kubuntu 8.04 are not supported. Please follow the directions for upgrading Kubuntu 8.04 to 9.10 first, then follow the directions above for upgrades from Kubuntu 9.10."
[12:24] <blackguard-> soreau: i am trying to install ubuntu on a hdd that already has a 30bg partition of windows and 200gb of allocated space
[12:24] <[TK]D-Fender> kmanzoor: it was right there in the middle
[12:24] <rcmaehl> Syria: just do sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:25] <rcmaehl> Syria: and firefox should be upgraded to ff4
[12:25] <andybe> Hi, does anyone know if there's a way to force the "connect to server..." connection to disconnect and reconnect without closing all the open files first?
[12:25] <soreau> blackguard-: That has no bearing on the fact that you must define a root mount point as /
[12:25] <blackguard-> soreau: what i want to do is manualy create the partitions i need and procced with the installation
[12:25] <soreau> blackguard-: fine go ahead
[12:25] <kmanzoor> [TK]D-Fender : ok
[12:25] <[TK]D-Fender> blackguard-: go back into the partition edit screen and choose the mount point
[12:26] <sunxuxueyuan> WHAT???
[12:26] <[TK]D-Fender> blackguard-: You seem to have skipped this step
[12:26] <baroluco> exit
[12:27] <nathan42100> Hi gues, I have an urgent problem. We have a bash script that mounts an nfs share, rsyncs some files, then unmounts the script (simplified). Originally, the mount point was backup.rrc.neu.edu:/share/customer_data/active
[12:27] <dean[w]> I just uninstalled compiz on ubuntu 10.10 x64 and was left with no window manager. I installed xfwm4 but now in google chrome  my button layout icons (close, minimize etc.) are in the top left instead of right. Chrome is the only program exhibiting this behaviour. Suggestions?
[12:27] <nathan42100> after a firmware upgrade to the QNAP nas, the mount point was somehow changed so the correct point is backup.rrc.neu.edu:/customer_data/active
[12:28] <blackguard-> [TK]D-Fender : i made a partition as ext4 from the partition program witch i cant recall the name, its on the live cd
[12:28] <blackguard-> [TK]D-Fender then i reentered the installation and i am getting the same message
[12:28] <nathan42100> backup.rrc.neu.edu:/share.... now mounts the wrong point, but if you unmount and remount, it works fine (I had put a symlink in there for compatibility reasons)
[12:28] <nathan42100> I  need it to work on the first time
[12:28] <nathan42100> not the second
[12:28] <[TK]D-Fender> blackguard-: Yes, and in the same dialog box that you tell it the File System type is a box to enter the MOUNT POINT
[12:28] <[TK]D-Fender> blackguard-: This is essential.  Go back and fill it in
[12:29] <r0fs3ck5> can anyone recommend a way to monitor which processes are communicating on which ports in ubuntu?
[12:29] <Freeway92> look in the confi files in /etc
[12:29] <blackguard-> [TK]D-Fender: whats the mount point?
[12:29] <High_Priest> r0fs3ck5, lsof
[12:29] <r0fs3ck5> preferably gui
[12:29] <kmanzoor> I have Adept 2.1 Cruiser 3.5.10. The instructions say that i must have adept-manager 2.1.3ubuntu25.2 installed. How to solve this issue ?
[12:30] <ohsix> netstat will show that information too
[12:30] <[TK]D-Fender> blackguard-: "/"
[12:30] <Syria> rcmaehl:  It works! thank you. :)
[12:30] <rcmaehl> no problem
[12:30] <r0fs3ck5> thanks High_Priest
[12:30] <High_Priest> r0fs3ck5, np.. do you need an example?
[12:31] <[TK]D-Fender> blackguard-: http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/extra/LINUX/large/ubuntu1010installation-large_003.jpg
[12:31] <[TK]D-Fender> blackguard-: It's right there
[12:31] <blackguard-> [TK]D-Fender : oh i see, so i need to add a "/"
[12:32] <nathan42100> anyone have any ideas?
[12:32] <[TK]D-Fender> blackguard-: You need to tell Ubuntu to USE it and at what point in the filesystem to mount it.
[12:32] <joris> If I backup /etc/bind/, do I have everything that configs my nameserver?
[12:33] <High_Priest> joris, not necessarily
[12:33] <wild> I rebooted Ubuntu and I got this error: could not update ICEauthority file /home/en/.ICEauthority   Now what?
[12:33] <kmanzoor> [TK]D-Fender : I have Adept 2.1 Cruiser 3.5.10. The instructions say that i must have adept-manager 2.1.3ubuntu25.2 installed. How to solve this issue ?
[12:34] <brontosaurusrex> from cli, how to copy (clone) a directory in such a way that all the timedata gets preserved?
[12:34] <joris> High_Priest: My zonefiles are in there. That's pretty much it, no?
[12:34] <[TK]D-Fender> kmanzoor: Not sure, have you done all of the standard updates for your platform?
[12:34] <ohsix> wild: the permissions are probably wrong on that file, some usages of sudo can cause that if the program  being ran works with credentials; you'll need to delete it or change its owner back to your user
[12:35] <High_Priest> joris, if you have your zone files there and bind config as well I think you should be fine
[12:35] <r0fs3ck5> Again, thank you High_Priest, lsof is much more convenient than tcpdump for what I'm doing.
[12:35] <joris> thanks
[12:35] <wild> There is a problem with the configuration server. (/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256)  obsix
[12:35] <mcb_1> brontosaurusrex: use "cp" with  --preserve[=ATTR_LIST]
[12:36] <ohsix> r0fs3ck5: you can use netstat too, and you don't need special privileges
[12:36] <kmanzoor> [TK]D-Fender : i upgraded from Gutsy to Hardy today using the Adept. I havent performed any updates separately.
[12:36] <High_Priest> r0fs3ck5, joris, np, cheers
[12:36] <r0fs3ck5> thanks ohsix, i'll give it a go
[12:36] <_antant> right, I'm out of ideas. I switched my ATI card out for an nvidia one and now I'm getting a 'no screens found' error. I installed nvidia-96, I installed nvidia-current, no luck. Anyone?
[12:36] <mcb_1> r0fs3ck5: netstat will only give you wich IP binds to each port, not the process.....
[12:37] <nishant> !opera
[12:37] <Seppoz> can ubuntu 10.10 mount ubifs partitions?
[12:37] <Seppoz> and is there somthing like mkfs.ubifs?
[12:37] <[TK]D-Fender> kmanzoor: Sorry, I cannot advise from this point
[12:37] <wild> obsix, how do I change anything if I can not get ubuntu to lanch now?
[12:38] <High_Priest> wild, try booting to recovery mode and chown and chmod ( 644) that .Iceauthority file
[12:38] <brontosaurusrex> mcb_1: mkay, thanks
[12:38] <mcb_1> np brontosaurusrex
[12:38] <r0fs3ck5> Seppoz, virtualize and share the fs
[12:38] <r0fs3ck5> ?
[12:38] <ohsix> wild: i'd just boot into single user mode if it happened, or log in remotely, or switch to a tty
[12:39] <brontosaurusrex> mcb_1: cp -dpr /src /dst <- did the trick
[12:39] <mcb_1> Good to know. Thanks
[12:39] <_antant> anyone got any idea how I get my new gt210 card to work? swapped in for an ati
[12:39] <kmanzoor> how can one update  Adept 2.1 Cruiser 3.5.10 to adept-manager 2.1.3ubuntu25.2 ?
[12:40] <wild> High_Priest obsix, I am attempting to reboot... stay tuned :O
[12:40] <kmanzoor> [TK]D-Fender : thats alright
[12:40] <High_Priest> wild, gl :)
[12:42] <pkkm> When I try to open web browser as another user with "sudo -Hu user epiphany-browser --display :0", I get "Cannot open display :0" unless the user is me or root. What causes the problem?
[12:43] <wild> High_Priest obsix, now Ubuntu wants to reinstall from scratch?? :(
[12:43] <Speedle> whats up whats up fellow ubuntu users?
[12:43] <ohsix> pkkm: "user" probably doesn't have credentials to connect to your display
[12:44] <kmanzoor> I went to Adept and used the About feature in the Help tab to find my version it said: Adept 2.1 Cruiser 3.5.10. Is my version older than adept-manager 2.1.3ubuntu25.2 ?
[12:44] <High_Priest> wild, what do you mean by that?
[12:44] <version32> how to find deb file for package? Specifically xulrunner-1.9.2.14 ?
[12:44] <brontosaurusrex> another q: how to use df to get only freespace like : 100G free ?
[12:44] <Speedle> ubuntu rocks!....im new at this
[12:45] <High_Priest> brontosaurusrex, df -h will show you size/used/available
[12:45] <r0fs3ck5> Hi Speedle
[12:45] <High_Priest> version32, have you tried aptitude search ?
[12:46] <brontosaurusrex> High_Priest: i know, i just need the ###G part
[12:46] <ohsix> brontosaurusrex: use "cut"
[12:46] <pkkm> ohsix, How to give credentials to the user?
[12:47] <wild> High_Priest I mean, I closed ubuntu. Then from my virtual box I started it again. then the install ubuntu screen appeared. I quit that and now it is running but as ubuntu@ubuntu
[12:47] <ohsix> pkkm: with xauth iirc
[12:47] <High_Priest> wild, did you have installation media inserted?
[12:48] <r0fs3ck5> wild, detach the ubuntu ISO from virtualbox devices
[12:48] <pkkm> ohsix, Thanks
[12:48] <_antant> Guys, what's the name of the nvidia driver I should have in my xorg.conf?
[12:48] <High_Priest> wild, anywayz, you just need to boot to runlevel 1 (maintenance mode) to fix the permissions on .Iceauthority
[12:48] <wild> High_Priest no media
[12:48] <blackguard-> [TK]D-Fender: on the gparted i want to create a swap partition, am i creating a partition and then changing its file system to linux-swap?
[12:49] <High_Priest> wild, hm.. that's rather strange..
[12:49] <mcb_1> brontosaurusrex: This shold you what you want... $df -hT | awk '{print$5}'
[12:49] <kmanzoor> my version problem is solved. i was look at the wrong place. the correct place to check the version is the adept packages manager - packages list and not the About menu.
[12:49] <wild> rofs3ck5 how do I detach the ISO?
[12:49] <[TK]D-Fender> blackguard-: When you create the partition you tell it the type.  Yuo don't do it as A and then change it to B after
[12:49] <ohsix> pkkm: er, xhost, not xauth
[12:49] <flosas> aaaaaaaaah
[12:50] <amurii> hahahdfqe
[12:50] <flosas> Heii
[12:50] <amurii> looool
[12:50] <r0fs3ck5> wild, when you installed your vm, did you choose 'create usb install' by any chance?
[12:50] <wild> High_Priest I powered down, how do I boot to runlevel 1
[12:50] <r0fs3ck5> or whatever it is?
[12:50] <wild> rofs3ck5 yes
[12:50] <amurii> yeah
[12:50] <amurii> wazzup wild
[12:51] <dyd> hey is there any way to move the show desktop icon from bottom left corner? i want it also up in the panel
[12:51] <wild> amurii wazzup
[12:51] <amurii> hey
[12:51] <_antant> So nobody knows what the nvidia driver name is that I have to put in xorg.conf?
[12:51] <dnivra> hello. I am trying to compile amarok and I run into this error. http://pastebin.com/nQ45gDiM. i asked in #amarok and was suggested to look for libgcrypt compiled -fPIC. where can I get such a package? another alternative was to check for a shared library for libgcrypt. which package provides this?
[12:51] <larsta> hei
[12:51] <amurii> hey
[12:51] <amurii> dude
[12:51] <kumpa> odforce
[12:51] <nishant> why compile from scratch dnivra
[12:52] <DarsVaeda> hi how can i give ftp username and password as parameter?
[12:52] <amurii> how the fuck shouldi know
[12:52] <jjp>  
[12:52] <Pici> larsta, amurii: This is a support channel, please stop that.
[12:52] <dnivra> nishant, i agree it is there pre-packaged but I am doing it because I want to.
[12:52] <upp> hello, i have ubuntu 10.04 and i can't join this machine any more via ssh, und that's the error messages "server unexpectedly closed network connection" can any one help me?
[12:52] <dnivra> !language | amurii
[12:52] <version32> High_Priest yes, and looking in the repository itself shows 1.9.2.15 and 1.9.2.11
[12:52] <ohsix> dyd: that bottom one is a panel as well; you can right click and add it to any other panel as well
[12:53] <dnivra> nishant, i would like to amarok development and as a first step was asked to compile it :).
[12:53] <amurii> yo
[12:53] <dyd> ohsix: thank you!
[12:53] <amurii> waz happenin home boy
[12:53] <High_Priest> wild, you edit grub menu and add single at the and of the kernel line which you need to edit
[12:53] <nishant> yes then you have to compile it and try it :)
[12:53] <Pici> !ot | amurii
[12:53] <wild> rofs3ck5 how did you guess that I used the usb?
[12:54] <r0fs3ck5> because it booted to the install screen
[12:54] <dnivra> nishant, so any idea how to obtain a shared library for libgcrypt?
[12:54] <r0fs3ck5> as you said
[12:54] <wild> High_Priest is the grub menu in the virtual box? I am really new at this.
[12:54] <upp> hello, i have ubuntu 10.04 and i can't join this machine any more via ssh, und that's the error messages "server unexpectedly closed network connection" can any one help me?
[12:55] <lokus> im trying to get my linux desktop session available via vnc right now.. anyone know what method gnome natively uses? it used to start by default with my default ubuntu config then i switched to a tiling WM and i lost its startup :-(
[12:55] <willy_1977> _antant, what version of ubuntu are you trying to get nvidia drivers installed on?
[12:55] <wild> rofs3ck5 but I do not have the usb stick in my machine.
[12:55] <kumpa> #odforce
[12:55] <r0fs3ck5> wild, what you have done is created a vm that is actually set up as an installer
[12:56] <sipior> DarsVaeda: you could set up a .netrc file including the relevant information. have a look at "man netrc".
[12:56] <nishant> dnivra, did you try http://directory.fsf.org/project/libgcrypt/
[12:56] <r0fs3ck5> wild, the .vdi is detected as a flash drive.
[12:56] <pkkm> ohsix, Seems like xhost manages permissions only for hosts.
[12:56] <coz_> hey all
[12:56] <dyd> now the hardest question: i have different remote folders, i've linked those in my "Places" menu; i want to put a link to those folders also in the panel, how can i do that?
[12:56] <wizardken> everyday ubuntu gets better and better
[12:57] <dnivra> nishant, is there a package in the repository?
[12:57] <ohsix> pkkm:        [+]name The given name (the plus sign is optional) is added to the list allowed to connect to the X server.  The name can be a host name or a user name.
[12:57] <krosh> Hi everyone. I think Empathy Ubuntu version has a stupid bug. Empathy is closed whenever I click on nick of user to start a talk. Does anyone know something about that bug?
[12:57] <wild> rofs3ck5 this sounds like a nightmare. How do I "fix" it to be as I would expect a normal system to run?
[12:57] <wizardken> empathy has always been flucked,krosh
[12:58] <wizardken> krosh, why don't you go report it
[12:58] <wizardken> !bugs | krosh
[12:58] <wizardken> i just guessed that one... haha
[12:58] <r0fs3ck5> wild, if you want to run your vm as a standalone desktop, I suggest a reinstall from the ubuntu ISO onto a new .vdi.  it's quite easy
[12:58] <pkkm> ohsix, # xhost + user : xhost:  bad hostname "user"
[12:58] <dnivra> nishant, is it libgcrypt11-dev by any chance? if I have it installed already :(
[12:59] <ohsix> pkkm: no space after the +
[12:59] <pkkm> ohsix, The same error.
[13:00] <willy_1977> dnivra, are you compiling as you've made alterations or you just want to go through the process? if you just want to install amarok and get it to play MP3 etc. you could try something like this http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/07/03/how-to-install-amarok-in-ubuntu-and-get-it-to-play-mp3s/
[13:00] <wild> rofs3ck5 I have been trying to get a system up that can serve as a drupal development area for 3 days. It does not feel easy.
[13:00] <nishant> ask in amarok dnivra , I am not very sure about compiling from scratch
[13:00] <blackguard-> [TK]D-Fender : something last, what's the "/" i added and does the partition i created as linux-swap gonna be for the purpose of swap or i did something wrong?
[13:01] <dnivra> willy_1977, actually I was asked to do the compiling process since I would like to work on amarok i.e. do amarok development. that is why. sure I know how install it otherwise :).
[13:01] <pkkm> ohsix, Just found out that the command should be: xhost +SI:localuser:user
[13:01] <nishant> #amarok is official channel for  amarok related discussion
[13:01] <dnivra> nishant, i did. they said I need to find the distro package. that isn't what they'd be able to help with right?
[13:01] <willy_1977> dnivra, ok, just wanted to make sure ;)
[13:01] <krosh> wizardken, empathy hasn't worked fine for me in Fedora and Ubuntu. I think there must be a lot of corrections to be done
[13:01] <ohsix> pkkm: xhost +si:localuser:user
[13:01] <ohsix> yea that
[13:01] <dnivra> willy_1977, sure thing! thanks :).
[13:02] <lokus> im trying to start up a vnc session via ssh from an already opened desktop. anyone know which route/vnc package to use?
[13:02] <r0fs3ck5> wild, it is easy. you simply picked the wrong install option. just go through it again.  not too hard.
[13:02] <[TK]D-Fender> blackguard-: "/" means that partition is the base of your OS install, and there is no mount point for linux-swap.
[13:02] <[TK]D-Fender> BlackYou define it as such and it "just works"
[13:05] <xarinatan> I'm having trouble with committing large amounts of files to my BZR server, can someone help me out? Here's the error i get: http://pastebin.com/XMtwzW0r
[13:05] <blackguard-> [TK]D-Fender thanks alot man
[13:05] <[TK]D-Fender> blackguard-: You're welcome, keep at it...
[13:05] <BluesKaj> Hiyas folks
[13:06] <blackguard-> [TK]D-Fender i just had an error at the installation. ubi-console-setup crashed, what that means ?
[13:07] <[TK]D-Fender> blackguard-No idea....
[13:07] <brontosaurusrex> mcb_1: cool (df -hT | awk '{print$5}')
[13:07] <zvacet> !md5sum |Blackguard:
[13:09] <zvacet> Blackguard: maybe iso is corrupted check it eith above link
[13:09] <willy_1977> Blackguard, can't stress enough the need to check that iso sum I've lost an hour or two trying to work with crappy iso's... (not the distro's fault got mashed up when downloading)
[13:09] <willy_1977> in the past
[13:10] <ohsix> the zsync files are gr8 for fixing that
[13:10] <guids> hi, I have a hp laptop, and gobi wireless modem, I have the device loaded correctly, but Im unable to use it
[13:10] <guids> when i do a lsusb, I see HP gobi 2000 wireless modem
[13:10] <guids> do i need to do something extra to get th nm-applet to recognize it?
[13:11] <ohsix> guids: it needs special firmware loaded, i'm not sure how that's done on ubuntu however
[13:11] <guids> ya, special firmware is loaded
[13:11] <guids> it shows the device and correct device id
[13:12] <wild> rofs3ck5 If I select the installation media from the Media Source : " ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso " Will I be ok?
[13:12] <_antant> Hi guys, please can I get some help here. I've tried asking for the last 30 mins but got no response. I'm trying to install an nvidia card after having an ati one in my machine and I get an error saying the nvidia module doesn't exist, no drivers available and no screens found. I've tried searching online but nothing's helped. Any assistance would be great!
[13:12] <ruan> _antant: what model?
[13:13] <_antant> gt210
[13:13] <_antant> had an ati 5450 in the box about 50 mins ago
[13:13] <ohsix> _antant: delete your xorg.conf, sounds like static configuration is trying to load it unconditionally
[13:13] <willy_1977> _antant, hummm I asked what version of ubuntu you were working on...
[13:13] <_antant> oh sorry, willy_1977, I must have missed it while I was searching for solutions
[13:14] <_antant> 10.10
[13:14] <willy_1977> _antant,  ;) no worries looks like you've got some interest now...
[13:14] <_antant> :D
[13:14] <_antant> xorg.conf deleted
[13:14] <ruan> _antant: did it worK?
[13:15] <jOZe> hola
[13:15] <_antant> we'll see in a few seconds
[13:15] <joris> about sshd being immutable in my system ealier (and still), is this something that selinux or similar security layers may have set?
[13:15] <ruan> immutable?
[13:15] <joris> yes
[13:15] <joris> /usr/sbin/sshd is immutable
[13:15] <joris> ------i---- so to speak
[13:16] <dyd> what's the command for "Connecto to Server..."?
[13:16] <dyd> the shell command
[13:16] <ruan> dyd: which server?
[13:16] <Ja23> Hello everyone
[13:16] <ruan> dyd: ssh server?
[13:16] <dyd> it's a windows share
[13:16] <k3kc0rp> smb
[13:16] <ruan> dyd: samba?
[13:16] <k3kc0rp> smb
[13:16] <lokus> i backgrounded a task with &, can i redirect its 1 and 2 to /dev/null while running? im sick of it spamming me
[13:16] <dyd> have no idea, i'm new to this ;D
[13:16] <joris> I'm trying to remember the name of something that was installed before, something similar to selinux. xshield? xarms?
[13:16] <ohsix> dyd: there really isn't one, that's just ui to wrap gio/gvfs, and to work with your keyring
[13:16] <Bhavesh_A_P>  Linux type like ubuntu,kununtu,redhat,..... has same kernal ?
[13:16] <Ja23> I am working on expanding two partitions and shrinking a third, I can't seem to expand my Windows partition, does anyone know why?
[13:17] <_antant> well I've got a desktop now
[13:17] <dyd> i have to connect to a remote HD on windows with admin privileges, something like c$
[13:17] <ruan> Bhavesh_A_P: they all use the linux kernel, yes
[13:17] <sipior> joris: apparmor, perhaps?
[13:17] <ohsix> _antant: now you can remove the nvidia driver :D
[13:17] <Ja23> The linux one worked fine, but the windows one doesn't give me the option
[13:17] <dyd> but i want to script that so i can put the code on the panel
[13:17] <joris> sipior: thanks, that's it. is apparmor something that could set immutable on /usr/sbin/sshd ?
[13:17] <An_Ony_Moose> I want to set up a second session as the same user on my computer that I can then access via VNC. The problem is that I need it to run at a lower resolution and with some panel options changed so I can use it on a mobile device, while retaining my normal options in the main session and the configuration files. Is this possible, and if yes, how?
[13:17] <_antant> remove the nvidia driver??
[13:18] <dyd> so should be something like "smb ip share user password", i guess
[13:18] <ruan> Bhavesh_A_P: note that linux is a kernel, and those are operating systems _based_ on the linux kernel
[13:18] <_antant> ohsix: Why would I remove the nvidia driver?
[13:18] <ohsix> oh, nevermind; other way around
[13:18] <ruan> Ja23: what tool are you using to do this?
[13:18] <Ja23> Gparted!
[13:18] <Ja23> =)
[13:19] <ruan> hmm. so you can't resize the ntfs partition?
[13:19] <Ja23> Yeahhh
[13:19] <_antant> do I have to install the vdpau drivers seperately?
[13:19] <ohsix> no clue
[13:19] <Ja23> The unallocated space is at the beginning of /dev/sda3
[13:20] <Ja23> the one i want to expand is /dev/sda2
[13:20] <ruan> Ja23: is the partition currently mounted?
[13:20] <brontosaurusrex> _antant: what drivers? no
[13:20] <Ja23> ohh, hm, how do i check?
[13:20] <Ja23> I'm running a live CD btw
[13:21] <ruan> Ja23: if the partition has key symbols next to its name
[13:21] <ruan> i believe
[13:21] <user1_> can we use a remote computer processor to run a native application?
[13:21] <Ja23> Yes, sda3 does
[13:21] <ruan> user1_: yes, depends though
[13:21] <zvacet> ja2
[13:21] <user1_> ruan : like?
[13:22] <zvacet> Ja23: and sda2?
[13:22] <Ja23> Does not
[13:22] <r0fs3ck5> user1_, it's called clustering.
[13:22] <edbian> user1_, You can x forward which would only appear to make that happen, or a NFS, or yes, clustering
[13:22] <zvacet> Ja23:  strange you should be able to resize it
[13:23] <kmanzoor> i started the upgrade from Hardy to Karmic.
[13:23] <Ja23> What does the key symbol mean?
means Linux is not operating system ?
[13:23] <ruan> Ja23: it means that the partition is currently mounted
[13:23] <ruan> Bhavesh_A_P: no, linux is not an operating system
[13:23] <ruan> !linux
[13:23] <Ja23> Should I mount sda2
[13:23] <zvacet> Ja23:  it means it is loked (mounted I think)
[13:23] <ruan> the core of all linux-based operating systems
ok
[13:24] <NielsMkn> any tortoisesvn equivalent for ubuntu?
[13:24] <kmanzoor> Distribution upgrade is running. I am running Kopete alongside. Would it cause any install issues ?
[13:24] <jrib> kmanzoor: nope
[13:24] <user1_> r0fsck5 edbian : how do i cluster two laptops
[13:24] <ruan> NielsMkn: there are svn applications for ubuntu
[13:24] <Ja23> zvacet want me to upload a picture for you?
[13:24] <ruan> NielsMkn: such as rapidsvn
[13:24] <edbian> user1_, IDK, never done it before.  I suggest network filesystem for only 2 machines though.  Clustering is more for high performance computing with many machines
[13:25] <sagi_> hello
[13:25] <ruan> !info rapidsvn
[13:25] <sipior> joris: sorry, i was called away. i don't know if apparmor would set that immutable flag, but it might as part of its policy script. if it bothers you, you can of course remove the flag.
[13:25] <NielsMkn> with a good gui interface?
linux provider can use his own kernal ! ?
[13:25] <joris> sipior: how?
[13:25] <ruan> NielsMkn: yep, i havent tried it yet
[13:25] <ruan> though
[13:25] <sipior> joris: have a look at "chattr"
[13:25] <joris> ty
[13:25] <zvacet> Ja23:  ok but not expect too much from me  :)
[13:25] <user1_> is there any command line tool in ubuntu for clustering
[13:25] <sagi_> how to join a channel a channel in x-chat wich is not mentioned in the list .
[13:25] <NielsMkn> hmm ok
[13:25] <sagi_> ?
[13:26] <ruan> Bhavesh_A_P: i dont completely understand the question
[13:26] <edbian> user1_, Clustering is not a simple thing to set up:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MpichCluster
[13:26] <decameron> hi everyone
[13:26] <r0fs3ck5> user1_, you could use a dedicated cluster distro.  There are many examples on youtube etc.
[13:26] <sl33k_> Where can I find about mounting partitions?
[13:27] <willy_1977> sl33k_, in what way?
[13:27] <r0fs3ck5> can be done with ubuntu, but I haven't tried.
[13:27] <ruan> !mount | sl33k_
[13:27] <decameron> can anyone help with a wpa2 problem?
 i.e. Ubuntu linux provider built own kernal and use in it. and say we are Linux provider..
[13:27] <zvacet> Bhavesh_A_P:  they don't use their own kernel but they can adjust existing one
[13:27] <willy_1977> sl33k_, or man mount from a terminal may help
[13:27] <sl33k_> willy_1977: for a new install
[13:27] <sl33k_> willy_1977: is it trivial for a newbie to mount
[13:28] <willy_1977> sl33k_, you want to mount a new drive to install too?
[13:28] <arand_> decameron: Describe the details, if someone knows they will answer.
[13:28] <ruan> sl33k_: its not that hard to mount partitions
[13:28] <willy_1977> sl33k_, yeah I managed it :p
[13:28] <ruan> sl33k_: i had to do it on my first day of using ubuntu, lol
 Menu, Server/Join Channel
[13:29] <Bhavesh_A_P> ok
[13:29] <decameron> the prob is, i can see the wlan router, but it won't connect (associated, disassociated) and keeps asking for the password over and over
[13:30] <Ja23> zvacet http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=0b168f3
[13:30] <Ja23> That is a screenshot of GPARTED
[13:30] <Ja23> so maybe that can help you
[13:30] <willy_1977> sl33k_, so are you trying to install ubuntu onto a new drive?
[13:31] <sl33k_> ruan, willy_1977: i have a newly installed ubuntu, what will i need? there are some options on help.ubuntu, mount windows and auto mount? what do i have to know?
[13:31] <Ja23> The yellow one second in is the Windows partition that doesn't have a key and won't grow
[13:31] <MadCarburetor> Hello
[13:31] <willy_1977> sl33k_, ok so you're on ubuntu and you want to mount a windows partition?
[13:31] <ruan> sl33k_: the mount command is built in, and it should work by default
[13:31] <sl33k_> willy_1977: its wubi install, i already selected a windows drive
[13:31] <SystemDefault0> MadCarburetor: Hi.
[13:31] <MadCarburetor> I want to use the clearlooks theme, But the window controls get flipped to the wrong side!
[13:31] <zvacet> Ja23: do you run gparted from live cd?
[13:31] <Ja23> Yep
[13:32] <SystemDefault0> MadCarburetor: Explain.
[13:32] <MadCarburetor> How do i get them back on the left
[13:32] <MadCarburetor> the - [] and X
[13:32] <sl33k_> willy_1977: yea
[13:32] <tjader> I got a problem: I just installed 10.10 on an ideapad, the installation went fine. But after rebooting X doesn't start, and after logging in on the console I notice aptitude isn't installed
[13:32] <ruan> MadCarburetor: customise the theme
[13:32] <MadCarburetor> They're on the left in the default theme
[13:32] <willy_1977> sl33k_, right with you now :)
[13:32] <SystemDefault0> hello
[13:32] <SystemDefault0> i am sam
[13:32] <ruan> MadCarburetor: customise the "window border" of clearlooks
[13:32] <zvacet> Ja23:  try to shrink sda3 because it is extended partition and your unallocated space is inside of it
[13:33] <alesan> hi
[13:33] <SystemDefault0> hi
[13:33] <alesan> how do I install firefox 4?
[13:33] <ruan> !ff4
[13:33] <Ja23> ohhh
[13:33] <willy_1977> sl33k_, do you know what partition you are trying to mount? e.g. /dev/sda3
[13:33] <zvacet> Ja23: shrink from left to right to get unallocated space outside of sda3
[13:33] <alesan> ruan, will that also work if I had minefield installed before?
[13:33] <Ja23> When I select sda3 the resize button is not an option
[13:33] <ruan> alesan: yes
[13:34] <SystemDefault0> alesan: Check in the repositories
[13:34] <ruan> i suggested part of that factoid :D
[13:34] <BluesKaj> hmm, FF4 currently stable eh? Heh I beg to differ...
[13:34] <Ja23> I can only choose each individual partition
[13:34] <ruan> BluesKaj: mozilla believes its stable :P
[13:34] <MadCarburetor> ruan, i can change the window borders but how do i flip the window  controls back to the left?
[13:34] <sl33k_> willy_1977: there are like 3 windows partition
[13:34] <asfjio> hello, guys! how ubuntu people can install firefox 4 final? is there a package?
[13:34] <alesan> BluesKaj, maybe you do not know FF4 has been released
[13:35] <alesan> where do you live in a tunnel?
[13:35] <elFidel> MadCarburetor: ubuntu-tweak is one tool which allows easy window-decoration changes (if that helps)
[13:35] <SystemDefault0> Back! I apologize another user took my place.
[13:35] <MadCarburetor> efidel, thanks i'll try that
[13:35] <edbian> asfjio, There is not a package.  You can download the linux version from their website.
[13:35] <elFidel> asfjio: install from ppa
[13:35] <sipior> !ff4 > asfjio
[13:36] <r0fs3ck5> MadCarburetor, are you using Emerald?
[13:36] <elFidel> or install it fmanually from the mozilla page
[13:36] <BluesKaj> mozilla says it's stable ...don't think they beleive it tho
[13:36] <ruan> MadCarburetor: change to a theme that uses left side controls, then change back to the custom one with the window border that has default left
[13:36]  * sipior votes that we add the ff4 factoid to the channel topic for a couple weeks...
[13:36] <ruan> lol
[13:36] <alesan> BluesKaj, I have been using minefield for a while and surely it's more stable than FF3
[13:36] <Ja23> zvacet thanks for trying to help, my gf wants me to watch the movie with her, I'll be back later!
[13:37] <ruan> FF3 is just as stable as FF4 in my experience
[13:37] <BluesKaj> alesan, judt for your info , I use FF4 and it's not stable in my experience
[13:37] <alesan> sipior, it would be so much easier if FF4 came automatically with the ubuntu upgrades
[13:37] <SystemDefault0> alesan: I use Firefox 3.5 and it works fine.
[13:37] <asfjio> elFidel: by manually you mean download the bz and run ./firefox inside there, right?
[13:37] <ruan> alesan: FF4 is very different from FF3
[13:37] <ruan> thus the non-default upgrade
[13:37] <elFidel> asfjio: yes - but i would go for the ppa
[13:37] <ale_> ale
[13:37] <SystemDefault0> alesan: If you wanna use Frefox 4 you should install it from Terminal.
[13:37] <ale_> a
[13:38] <sipior> alesan: they're not going to jump browser version outside of the release cycle. if that bothers you, use the ppa.
[13:38] <ruan> though im confused.
[13:38] <willy_1977> sl33k_, what do you get if you just run the mount command in a terminal?
[13:38] <alesan> ruan, I thought ubuntu wanted to mimic windows and mac in terms of functionality
[13:38] <ruan> will they ever include ff4 in default updates?
[13:38] <alesan> so why not make just the upgrade and that's it
[13:38] <ruan> because ff3 wont afaik
[13:38] <zvacet> Ja23:  it is smart decision  8-)
[13:38] <ruan> get any more updates
[13:38] <asfjio> elFidel: what is the benefit?
[13:38] <uczen> hi @ll
[13:38] <elFidel> asfjio: of your question?
[13:39] <elFidel> asfjio: you were asking for a way to install ff4 right?
[13:39] <sipior> alesan: neither windows of apple ship firefox either. you have to do exactly the same amount of work under ubuntu.
[13:39] <SystemDefault0> alesan: Do not upgrade. Do fresh installs.
[13:39] <ruan> apple and windows never shipped firefox by default. you're lucky
[13:39] <elFidel> asfjio: so install it manually or via ppa. or wait until it comes to your distro on the official way
[13:39] <alesan> SystemDefault0, why would I want to do that
[13:39] <sipior> SystemDefault0: this isn't 1998.
[13:39] <sl33k_> willy_1977: actually my os is just about to get wubi installed and i dont understand what mount means?
[13:39] <bullgard4> What package is the Disk Mounter applet associated with (in order to report a bug)?
[13:39] <SystemDefault0> Hahaha!
[13:40] <_antant> ok, I have one more problem. The resolution of my splash screens is ridiculously low. I've tried setting it as 1920x1080 in the plymouth manager but no luck
[13:40] <asfjio> elFidel: i was jus curious, because i didn't use PPA. anyway thank you very much for the help!
[13:40] <ruan> _antant: there is a gui app that can configure grub
[13:41] <ruan> _antant: startup-manager
[13:41] <ruan> !info startupmanager
[13:41] <_antant> installing now
[13:41] <_antant> cheers
[13:41] <alesan> hey can I install linux-2.6.38 from some PPA thing?
[13:42] <elFidel> alesan: in case you arent used to work with ppa's - you should most likely not mess around with kernel in general
[13:43] <elFidel> just my feeling
[13:43] <SystemDefault0> Well, gotta go. Take care and have a nice day/night people.
[13:43] <zvacet> alesan: I don't think so ,but you can try http://www.ubuntugeek.com/automatically-compile-and-install-the-latest-kernel-using-kernelcheck-in-ubuntu.html
[13:43] <alesan> elFidel, but do you know if it's possible?
[13:43] <tjader> alesan: very likely to be
[13:44] <alesan> very different opignions
[13:44] <_antant> hmm. Couldn't tell it to use 1920x1080
[13:44] <willy_1977> sl33k_, ok, so mount basically allows linux to view the directory of a device/partition
[13:44] <_antant> max it would do is 1600x1200
[13:44] <ruan> _antant: it might not load nvidia drivers along with grub. idk
[13:44] <tjader> alesan: how are our opinions different?
[13:44] <ruan> that could possibly be the issue
[13:44] <ruan> _antant: but 1600x1200 is still large
[13:44] <willy_1977> sl33k_, usually it's done behind the scenes
[13:44] <alesan> tjader, "<zvacet> alesan: I don't think so ,but you can try..."
[13:45] <_antant> will be stretched though
[13:45] <sl33k_> willy_1977: cool
[13:45] <tjader> I didn't catch that :p
[13:45] <bazZti> hi
[13:45] <_antant> do I have to install the nvidia vdpau seperately?
[13:45] <willy_1977> sl33k_, if you are in ubuntu if you open a terminal (do you know how to do that?)
[13:45] <ruan> ctrl alt t
[13:46] <sl33k_> willy_1977: no
[13:46] <Squarism> is there some (actively developed) GROWL like application for linux?
[13:46] <zvacet> alesan: if you want latest kernel use link I posted to you
[13:46] <ruan> Squarism: what is GROWL?
[13:46] <sl33k_> willy_1977: so we mount windows partitions?
[13:46] <willy_1977> sl33k_, ruan got it press ctrl alt and t
[13:46] <elFidel> ruan: some mac-os-related notification system other apps can use
[13:46] <Squarism> ruan, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=growl
[13:46] <Squarism> =D
[13:47] <elFidel> ruan: i guess similar to the libnotify thing in linux
[13:47] <tjader> so, anyone has any idea why I have no aptitude and X doesn't work after a clean install?
[13:47] <sipior> Squarism: sure, the NotifyOSD stuff that gnome uses is very similar in functionality.
[13:47] <ozko_890> hello!
[13:47] <willy_1977> sl33k_, yep you can, you can choose readonly or read/write access
[13:47] <tjader> X worked fine in the install cd
[13:47] <Squarism> ruan, its a notification service
[13:47] <ruan> lol
[13:47]  * willy_1977 lol
[13:48] <pitlimit> When updating Ubuntu 10.4lts, I get a window stating that I chose not to instsall GRUB to any devices.  Can anyone advise what I am to do?
[13:48] <Squarism> sipior, how does one configure that?
[13:48] <ruan> pitlimit: install grub to the hard drive
[13:48] <sl33k_> willy_1977: does pen drive alsorequire mounting?
[13:48] <pitlimit> to the underlying computer system, ruan?
[13:48] <pitlimit> and how do I do that?
[13:49] <zvacet> pitlimit: is ubuntu only os you are using
[13:49] <ruan> pitlimit: does it give the options?
[13:49] <pitlimit> I'm installing it on my VM
[13:49] <sl33k_> willy_1977: what does ctrl alt and t do?
[13:49] <sipior> Squarism: notifyOSDconfig would likely do what you want.
[13:49] <kaechan> helllo
[13:49] <willy_1977> sl33k_, they should automount but I guess it depends on the file system
[13:49] <ruan> ctrl alt t would launch a terminal.
[13:49] <zvacet> pitlimit:  then install it
[13:49] <_antant> startupmanager didn't work. I'm still at 640x480-8
[13:49] <pitlimit> do I need it if I'm using it in my VMWare?
[13:49] <sl33k_> ok
[13:49] <willy_1977> sl33k_, what ruan said
[13:50] <Curly_Q> Hello good folks. Is there an application that you can scan in a form and fill in the details and then print it out?
[13:50] <pitlimit> ruan and then what do i do?
[13:50] <pitlimit> I have terminal open now ruan
[13:50] <zvacet> pitlimit: yes how you will start ubuntu?
[13:50] <Squarism> sipior, but that is installed right? Is there an admin UI for it?
[13:50] <pitlimit> :) yes I figured after I asked that was probably a bad q
[13:50] <Curly_Q> I suppose I could create a graphics and then superimpose the text over the graphics.
[13:51] <willy_1977> sl33k_,  so would you want these partitions to show every time you boot to ubuntu?
[13:51] <pitlimit> zvacet: do you know how I can install grub through command line?
[13:51] <elFidel> Squarism: afaik there is no growl-like config dialog for it available (at least not osx sys-prefs-panel like)
[13:51] <JAGFin1> Getting this error when sudo apt-get update: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net maverick Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A6DCF7707EBC211F
[13:51] <sipior> Squarism: don't imagine it's installed by default. easy enough to find a package, or just build it from source.
[13:51] <sl33k_> willy_1977: yea exactly
[13:51] <JAGFin1> how do I fix that?
[13:51] <elFidel> but most apps will just it anyways out of the box
[13:51] <ozko_890> i can not read the files from other computer which is on my network with windows 7 .  Nautilus can see the computer name from network. I click on it, it can see also the D part but when i click it it asks a password. I write the "home network password" but it ask me the password again and again. :( I restart now Ubuntu and i open Windows 7. Windows 7 can read the other computers files. Can someone help me please ? Thank you!
[13:52] <zvacet> !grub2 |pitlimit
[13:52] <pitlimit> :( That doesn't help me because I didn't lose grub after installing windows
[13:52] <pitlimit> I'll check out the second link
[13:52] <elFidel> ozko_890: afaik that should be related with win7 in general and the sharing options you have configured on that win7 box
[13:52] <zvacet> pitlimit: sorry this is best I can do I never installed grub in vm
[13:52] <ruan> pitlimit: grub-install
[13:52] <Squarism> elFidel, sipior: Thanx for the info
[13:52] <sipior> Squarism: one possibly useful pointer for you: http://maketecheasier.com/easily-customize-notifyosd-ubuntu-lucid/2010/05/26
[13:53] <elFidel> ozko_890: earlier windows version seperated at least 2 modes of file-sharing (easy aka crap vs advanced)
[13:53] <pitlimit> ruan when i do grub-install -v it says i have 1.908 installed
[13:53] <pitlimit> 1.98
[13:53] <lucid_j> Could anyone give me some advice about conky?
[13:53] <ozko_890>  elFidel: sorry i did not understand. can you explain little bit easy...
[13:53] <ruan> pitlimit: you might be able to boot then
[13:53] <ruan> pitlimit: not sure.
[13:53] <zvacet> pitlimit: and second link ?  ;)
[13:53] <elFidel> ozko_890: ask in a windows channel - as it is most likely a windows/windows7 related issue - not an ubuntu issue
[13:54] <elFidel> lucid_j: advice as in example config ? the web is full of it or what do you mean?
[13:54] <willy_1977> sl33k_, so open a terminal and issue the command "mount" without the quotes
[13:54] <ozko_890> elFidel: it is an issue ? and if it is, why windows 7 can read the shared files from others ?
[13:54] <willy_1977> sl33k_,  that should give a list of what (if anything) is mounted already
[13:54] <Guest31414> _jesse_, would you happen to be the same _jesse_ that hangs out in #web with daemon and OreoCookie?
[13:54] <lucid_j> elFidel: Not an example
[13:54] <elFidel> ozko_890: thats a different dierection right? at least if i read your input correctly
[13:54] <sl33k_> willy_1977: alright
[13:55] <ozko_890>  elFidel: what do you mean with "different direction" ?
[13:55] <lucid_j> elFidel: I am using conky for a long time so I am quite an expert
[13:55] <lucid_j> But lately I have a problem that I cannot solve
[13:55] <jrib> !away > froud
[13:55] <An0ne> Im receiving this error: Requires installation of untrusted packages
[13:55] <An0ne> The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.
[13:55] <fumanchu182> what's the eta on firefox 4 deb packages?
[13:56] <An0ne> while using the update manager in ubuntu
[13:56] <jrib> An0ne: that means you added a repository but did not add the key for it.  Did you recently add any repositories?  Which one?
[13:56] <elFidel> lucid_j: what kind of advice you you want then as expert? go intoi the details otherwise there will be no answer ;)
[13:56] <jrib> !firefox4 | fumanchu182
[13:56] <lucid_j> elFidel: When I boot conky appears over the windows
[13:56] <elFidel> its started to early lucid_j
[13:56] <lucid_j> I have set sleep time 5 but it is not enough..
[13:56] <fumanchu182> ty
[13:57] <elFidel> lucid_j: i do start mine via script including a sleep/wait or similar. since then that issue is gone
[13:57] <An0ne> jrib yeah
[13:57] <jrib> An0ne: which ones?
[13:57] <An0ne> sai l ipaste them on pastebin.org
[13:57] <jrib> An0ne: ok.
[13:57] <An0ne> Ii paste em on pastebin.org
[13:57] <An0ne> hang on
[13:57] <elFidel> lucid_j: again - the web is full of detailed instructions for such a times-login-script for conky. I hope that info helps already ;)
[13:57] <lucid_j> I have also found a command line that seems that does no work either: on_bottom yes
[13:57] <sl33k_> willy_1977: ok another question, there are many kernels that pop out during boot, how do i remove these unwanted kernels?
[13:58] <willy_1977> sl33k_, the other thing is if you're running wubi (I think you mentioned that) the partition that wubi is installed on should be automounted on /media/host I believe
[13:58] <An0ne> jrib: here you go: http://pastebin.com/Nb3fGvDU
[14:00] <jrib> An0ne: you see the three comments that say "Run this command"?  You need to run that command if you want to trust the software in the corresponding repository
[14:01] <An0ne> wait i havent looked through the entire tet , can you clarify which lines ur refering to
[14:01] <An0ne> wait i havent looked through the entire text , can you clarify which lines ur refering to
[14:01] <scozpae> Hey, can some one explain/help/suggest a way to handle this error (on apt-get update/upgrade/install and remove)  failed to read on buffer copy for files list for package `python-xlib': Input/output error
[14:01] <scozpae> it happens on 95% of reading database
[14:02] <sl33k_> willy_1977: is cd drive required to be mounted?
[14:02] <soreau> scozpae: Anything interesting from dmesg? might be drive failure
[14:02] <willy_1977> sl33k_, cd should automount
[14:02] <sl33k_> ok
[14:02] <willy_1977> sl33k_, check this for removing old kernels... http://tuxtweaks.com/2009/12/remove-old-kernels-in-ubuntu/
[14:02] <An0ne> Alright but jrib
[14:03] <An0ne> ru 100% confident that if i run these cmds that im able to install the updates in question
[14:03] <jrib> An0ne: yes
[14:03] <An0ne> Ok i itry
[14:03] <An0ne> SHouldi  run them with sudo?
[14:03] <An0ne> SHould i run them with sudo?
[14:03] <ozko_890> i can not read the files from other computer which is on my network with windows 7 .  Nautilus can see the computer name from network. I click on it, it can see also the D part but when i click it it asks a password. I write the "home network password" but it ask me the password again and again. :( I restart now Ubuntu and i open Windows 7. Windows 7 can read the other computers files. Can someone help me please ? Thank you!
[14:03] <An0ne> i assume so
[14:03] <jrib> An0ne: you should run them as they are (they already have sudo in them)
[14:05] <An0ne> Sorry ur right ii try running them right now
[14:05] <An0ne> will keep you updated
[14:05] <elFidel> ozko_890: i still bet its a windows-issue ;)
[14:06] <ozko_890>  elFidel:  :) but i can not understand why windows7-windows7 has no problem to share on my network ?
[14:06] <elFidel> well - then ignore the input. good luck
[14:08] <g0dy>  /server irc.dal.net
[14:11] <lawrence> jest tu ktos ?
[14:11] <An0ne> updates are being downloaded - ran the update manager after typing in the cmds, looks like its working awesome
[14:11] <Stefano_Gig> !list
[14:11] <Stefano_Gig> ciao
[14:12] <Stefano_Gig> exit
[14:12] <kerneloops_> hi
[14:12] <kerneloops_> kerneloops                  Tool to automatically collect and submit kernel crash signatures   Can I disable this?
[14:12] <ruan> !info kerneloops
[14:12] <ruan> kerneloops_: it's optional. you can disable it
[14:12] <An0ne> Applying CHanges
[14:13] <kerneloops_> ruan: thanks
[14:13] <lawrence> Sombody Polish meyby ?
[14:13] <littlegreen> could somebody help me on a printer-share-related issue I am having?
[14:13] <oCean> !pl | lawrence
[14:13] <willy_1977> littlegreen, can but try...
[14:13] <nishant> does anyone find opera to be faster than ff on ubuntu ? Why opera is not being made one of the default for ubuntu :)
[14:13] <kerneloops_> And this? ondemand                    Set the CPU Frequency Scaling governor to "ondemand"
[14:13] <ruan> !info ondemand
[14:13] <kerneloops_> hm
[14:13] <kerneloops_> I head it hurts the CPU
[14:14] <[TK]D-Fender> nishant: Because Opera is CLOSED SOURCE
[14:14] <oCean> nishant: this is only support channel. discussion and chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:14] <ruan> never heard of ondemand. if you get the package name, you can !info it
[14:14] <nishant> sorry , will ask in ot
[14:15] <An0ne> Restart Now
[14:15] <trelayne> Did you all hear about the SSL vulnerability today? https://blog.torproject.org/blog/detecting-certificate-authority-compromises-and-web-browser-collusion
[14:15] <willy_1977> littlegreen, so what's the issue?
[14:15] <ruan> An0ne: looks like a kernel update
[14:15] <kerneloops_> ruan: I want to disable "useless" services in startup using rrconf
[14:15] <An0ne> Ubuntu OS is restarting
[14:15] <An0ne> It is needed to run an Emu server appearently
[14:16] <An0ne> Requires those updates
[14:17] <ruan> kerneloops_: it's safe to disable
[14:17] <An0ne> Ubuntu Restarted - rechecked for Updates - no updates to install - Thanks Man
[14:19] <ruan> kerneloops_: it saves power in expense for power
[14:19] <ruan> i meant, performance
[14:19] <ruan> i see power as performance >_>
[14:19] <kerneloops_> ruan: ok im confused lol
[14:20] <kerneloops_> ruan: so it saves power from CPU?
[14:20] <ruan> oh wait nevermind
[14:20] <omidp> i dont have graphical login page and i need to do "startx"  how can i fix that?
[14:21] <Ja23> HEllo
[14:21] <Ja23> Hello*
[14:21] <gp5st> i have php pinned at 5.2 (/etc/apt/preferences.d/php = http://pastebin.com/CT5M5pCm). php --version = PHP 5.2.10-2ubuntu6.5. when i try to install pear: http://pastebin.com/xFm6JgKN
[14:21] <gp5st> any help please
[14:21] <Ja23> I need some help using gparted
[14:21] <littlegreen> willy_1977, I have my HP LaserJet 4050 installed and set-up, shared too but windows users seem to be unable to reach it. Unfortunately I have no second linux machine to test if it is an OS compatibility issue
[14:21] <Ja23> I think it might be a simple solution
[14:21] <kerneloops_> !ask | Ja23
[14:21] <ruan> kerneloops_: i googled it and found: Ondemand speeds up if there's something to do and slows down if it's idling.
[14:21] <willy_1977> littlegreen, ah ok, what are you using to share it?
[14:21] <dap_>  /msg ubottu !bot
[14:21] <An0ne> jrib a new issue
[14:22] <An0ne> im running this cmd
[14:22] <An0ne> sudo apt-get install sun-java6
[14:22] <kerneloops_> ruan: oh k tks
[14:22] <An0ne> Reading package lists... Done
[14:22] <An0ne> Building dependency tree
[14:22] <An0ne> Reading state information... Done
[14:22] <An0ne> E: Unable to locate package sun-java6
[14:22] <oCean> An0ne: try to keep your description on single line please
[14:22] <FloodBot2> An0ne: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:22] <ruan> An0ne: sun-java6-jre
[14:22] <Ja23> I have a ntfs partition that I can't grow.  I think it might be because its not mounted or it is mounted or soemthing.  here is a screenshot http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=0b168f3
[14:22] <ruan> An0ne: there is JRE - runtime - and JDK - developer's kit
[14:22] <littlegreen> willy_1977, nothing special, actually... I know it's stupid, I just opened the printer and right-clicked it and checked the "Shared" box
[14:23] <An0ne> package name is sun-java-6 this odesnt exist?
[14:23] <An0ne> package name is sun-java-6 this doesnt exist?
[14:23] <kerneloops_> An0ne: because it's not that
[14:23] <ruan> An0ne: it doesnt exist. sun-java6-jre exists.
[14:23] <ruan> !info sun-java6-jre
[14:23] <An0ne> hey ruan which one should i choose, can i install both of them
[14:23] <ruan> gaaah fail
[14:23] <ruan> maybe its multiverse
[14:24] <kerneloops_> An0ne: if you want to search for a package type apt-cache search <package>
[14:24] <ruan> An0ne: jdk is not needed in normal situations
[14:24] <ruan> An0ne: only for development or special java apps that need jdk
[14:24] <willy_1977> littlegreen, ok, I think you're going to need to setup samba or cups with sharing or something...
[14:25] <littlegreen> willy_1977, I do have samba installed... idk what exactly I need to configure though...
[14:25] <ruan> i use tab to search for packages :P
[14:25] <phix> hey, why doesn't CTRL+ALT+D work any more?
[14:25] <ruan> phix: what is it supposed to do?
[14:25] <willy_1977> littlegreen, cool try http://tldp.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO-9.html
[14:25] <kerneloops_> ruan: show desktop
[14:25] <kerneloops_> it's not working for me too lol
[14:25] <kerneloops_> it was.
[14:25] <littlegreen> willy_1977, thanks a lot!
[14:25] <s3r3n1t7> phisher1, meta + d
[14:26] <willy_1977> littlegreen, no worries
[14:26] <kerneloops_> phix: not working anymore :(
[14:26] <ruan> personally i still use the show desktop shortcut at the bottom left
[14:26] <s3r3n1t7> kerneloops_, Meta + D
[14:26] <mcb_1> phix: Meta + D is working fine.....
[14:26] <ruan> since my mousespeed is on max
[14:27] <kerneloops_> meta = ctrl + alt?
[14:27] <ruan> windowskey + d works
[14:28] <s3r3n1t7> kerneloops_, meta is the windows key
[14:28] <kerneloops_> ye works
[14:28] <kerneloops_> s3r3n1t7: or super :)
[14:28] <ruan> just as meta+M inverts the colors for the screen
[14:28] <kerneloops_> not for me
[14:28] <s3r3n1t7> kerneloops_, terms differ, button stays the same
[14:28] <kerneloops_> yes s3r3n1t7 but it was ctrl+alt+d
[14:29] <ruan> hmm not working for me anymore.
[14:29] <s3r3n1t7> kerneloops_, you can still change it in CCSM probably
[14:30] <varsha_jk> hello, I need help. After installing kde on Ubuntu, login gives the shell prompt, and not the gui. No proper help from net.
[14:30] <DingGGu> ctrl + shift f1
[14:30] <DingGGu> ctrl + shift + f1
[14:30] <jessicaBR> anyone knows how to vertically flip webcam image? I'm trying to use skype with webcam, but image is flipped....
[14:31] <dyd> hello all
[14:32] <dyd> is there any way to make a shell like a panel?
[14:32] <varsha_jk> DingGGu: that was for me?
[14:32] <master> ioj
[14:32] <sushantd84> I have one problem ... very simple for all you guys
[14:32] <sushantd84> its about configuring of ffmpeg
[14:32] <An0ne> What kind of problem
[14:33] <Ja23> Gparted does not allow me to resize a ntfs partition.
[14:33] <ruan> !partition
[14:33] <ruan> hmmm.
[14:33] <sushantd84> gcc is unable to create an executable file. If gcc is a cross-compiler, use the --enable-cross-compile option.
[14:33] <sushantd84> Only do this if you know what cross compiling means.
[14:33] <sushantd84> C compiler test failed.
[14:33] <iceroot> sushantd84: #gcc
[14:34] <jessicaBR> anyone knows how to vertically flip webcam image? I'm trying to use skype with webcam, but image is flipped....
[14:34] <sushantd84> Hey AnOne
[14:34] <sushantd84> can you help me man
[14:34] <phix> also -> libvirtError: operation failed: failed to retrieve chardev info in qemu with 'info chardev'
[14:34] <An0ne> With>?
[14:34] <sushantd84> gcc is unable to create an executable file. If gcc is a cross-compiler, use the --enable-cross-compile option.
[14:34] <cdbs> sushantd84: Do you have the build-essential package installed?
[14:34] <phix> mcb_1: oh, they changed it to meta+D now :/
[14:34] <sushantd84> may be not
[14:35] <phix> what other key bindings were changed?
[14:35] <sushantd84> how to get it?
[14:35] <An0ne> Pf no idea man im using normal compiling with most apps, sorry cant help you
[14:35] <czardoz> sushantd84, sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[14:35] <ruan> i dont know but meta + M isnt inverting the screen colors
[14:35] <ruan> not that i mind
[14:35] <Assid> heya
[14:36] <Assid> so .. how does one get firefox 4 on ubuntu
[14:36] <sushantd84> czardoz I am trying for it
[14:36] <sushantd84> let me get it installed
[14:36] <czardoz> ok
[14:36] <ruan> !ff4 | Assid
[14:36] <Assid> any src i can subscribe to.. (official)
[14:36] <Assid> aah nice
[14:36] <ruan> Assid: yep, above
[14:36] <Assid> thanks
[14:36] <misterm> so, what'd i'd like to do is have elinks run every few minutes so I can monitor a webpage, the problem is watch -n 500 'elinks url/goes/here' doesn't let me scroll through the page, is there a way to get scrollable output from the watch? less/more just munge up the output
[14:36] <mcb_1> phix: I don't know all of them. Tu be true, just this one..... LOL...
[14:36] <phix> mcb_1: :)
[14:36] <phix> thnx
[14:36] <hawodi> hello all
[14:36] <mcb_1> np
[14:36] <sushantd84> czardoz: i have it now
[14:36] <phix> ok so how back to my issues with virt-manager
[14:36] <sushantd84> what to do next
[14:36] <dyd> how can i stick a shell in the bottom as if it is a panel?
[14:36] <phix> It doesn't want to work
[14:36] <phix> How do I go about debugging / troubleshooing this?
[14:37] <willy_1977> Ja23, you should be able to... does it give us anything to go on?
[14:37] <mcb_1> Bye all, got to lunch....
[14:37] <sushantd84> czardoz: i have it now
[14:37] <sushantd84> what to do next
[14:37] <phix> libvirtError: operation failed: failed to retrieve chardev info in qemu with 'info chardev'
[14:37] <Assid> ruan: any performance benefits on ubuntu with ff4?
[14:37] <Ja23> willy_1977: I can show you a screenshot
[14:37] <Ja23> http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=0b168f3
[14:38] <ruan> Assid: i dont know. havent tried it yet
[14:38] <czardoz> sushantd84, I dont know what you want to do....
[14:38] <hawodi> I just installed Ubuntu 10.10 and am loving. I was using chrome on 10.4 and saved my profile before installing 10,10. How do update my profile in the fresh install please?
[14:38] <ruan> Assid: since i prefer ff3's gui
[14:38] <Ja23> willy_1977: i think there is an occasional delay for me, incase it seems like i'mnot replying quickly
[14:38] <sushantd84> I am getting this message
[14:38] <sushantd84> gcc is unable to create an executable file.
[14:38] <sushantd84> If gcc is a cross-compiler, use the --enable-cross-compile option.
[14:38] <sushantd84> Only do this if you know what cross compiling means.
[14:38] <sushantd84> C compiler test failed.
[14:38] <FloodBot2> sushantd84: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:38] <Assid> ruan: aah. i love minimalistic browser ui....
[14:39] <juk> wooops
[14:39] <sushantd84> and if i use --cross-compilre
[14:39] <sushantd84> i dont know
[14:39] <juk> sushantd84: checkout topic dude
[14:39] <Chousuke> FF4 is a lot faster than FF3
[14:39] <Chousuke> there's no reason to stick with 3.6
[14:39] <sushantd84> guys !! this is my first day at IRC
[14:39] <sushantd84> :(
[14:39] <phix> hi
[14:39] <ruan> im going to try ff4 but i'm gonna check about:config first for potential GUI things i want
[14:39] <phix> congrats sushantd84
[14:40] <Assid> Chousuke: too bad they didnt add hardware acceleration on linux...
[14:40] <ruan> if it doesnt have the things i _need_, im going to remove it
[14:40] <Chousuke> Assid: it's still faster
[14:40] <phix> remember, this isn't MSN so don't change your nick name every 5 minutes
[14:40] <sushantd84> and if i use --cross-compilre  i dont know what to do with -target-os
[14:40] <Chousuke> ruan: need, like what?
[14:40] <kerneloops_> ruan: should I disable AppArmor?
[14:40] <ruan> Chousuke: instant link location at bottom
[14:40] <MotherMGA> Hello. Is there a way to change the speed of my mouse scrollwheel for all applications? There isn't a setting in mouse preferences.
[14:40] <Assid> Chousuke: he prefers the phat interface
[14:40] <juk> Chousuke: who tells you to stick with something here?
[14:40] <ruan> Chousuke: when hovering over a link
[14:40] <Chousuke> juk: what?
[14:40] <ruan> anyways, installing now
[14:40] <kerneloops_> Chousuke: yep im using firefox 4 already
[14:41] <kerneloops_> and new options :D
[14:41] <Chousuke> ruan: hmm, I have no idea, I use pentadactyl
[14:41] <MotherMGA> I tried fooling around with xset to change mouse options, but I couldn't figure it out.
[14:41] <Chousuke> ruan: it basically redos the whole UI
[14:41] <Assid> err is there a shortcut to launch system monitor ? like windows has ctrl shift esc
[14:41] <ruan> windows had ctrl alt del
[14:42] <kerneloops_> "User-space parser utility for AppArmor" can someone explain the meaning of it?
[14:42] <juk> !shortcuts
[14:42] <kerneloops_> Assid: you can change the shortcut key ;)
[14:42] <phix> libvirtError: operation failed: failed to retrieve chardev info in qemu with 'info chardev'
[14:42] <Chousuke> ruan: but the UI is pretty customisable, so if the defaults don't work like you want, don't give up
[14:42] <ruan> Chousuke: ok
[14:42] <kerneloops_> Assid: I use ctrl+del
[14:42] <Chousuke> ruan: Take a look at the ars technica review too. It's pretty decent.
[14:42] <sushantd84> ./configure  --enable-libfaad --enable-gpl --enable-libfaac --enable-nonfree --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-version3 --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-libmp3lame  --enable-cross-compile --target-os  What I should write for target-os I am using ubuntu 10.04 lucid
[14:44] <jessicaBR> any idea on how to vertically flip webcam image? I would like to use skype videoconference, but image is flipped... :-/
[14:44] <sushantd84> thanks phix
[14:44] <s3r3n1t7> jessicaBR, make sure your cam isn't upside down?
[14:44] <juk> sushantd84: that's really isn't what they support here
[14:44] <phix> <3
[14:44] <[TK]D-Fender> jessicaBR: http://radu.cotescu.com/resolving-vertically-flipped-images-from-webcams-in-ubuntu/
[14:45] <sushantd84> oh then where should i go ?
[14:45] <phix> so any ideas?
[14:45] <scozpae> Hey, can some one explain/help/suggest a way to handle this error (on apt-get update/upgrade/install and remove)  failed to read on buffer copy for files list for package `python-xlib': Input/output error
[14:45] <sushantd84> :(
[14:45] <scozpae> it happens on 95% of reading database
[14:45] <phix> hey Mr [TK]D-Fender!  any ideas with my issue with virt-manager?
[14:45] <[TK]D-Fender> phix: Nope, don't do VM at all yet (I'm not counting a few runs of VirtualBox for anything)
[14:46] <jessicaBR> [TK]D-Fender, did you try to open that URL? Because I can't open it here... :-/
[14:46] <phix> [TK]D-Fender: ah ok :) well nice speaking with you again
[14:46] <kerneloops_> ok AppArmos should NOT be disabled.  (sudo aa-status)
[14:46] <kerneloops_> AppArmor*
[14:47] <phix> AppArmor that good?
[14:47] <s3r3n1t7> kerneloops_, that'd be a good guess.
[14:47] <trelayne> Hey all, let's say that I  want to install a PPA version of something to get security patches as they come out but that I want to revert to the non PPA version, is there a site that would explain how I can do that?
[14:48] <trelayne> I mean I want to revert when the non-PPA is patched..
[14:48] <sushantd84> i am helpless :(
[14:48] <kerneloops_> !ask | sushantd84
[14:48] <dagon666> trelayne: remove the old PPA from source list and update
[14:48] <s3r3n1t7> trelayne, to get back to the non PPA version, just remove and reinstall after you have removed the PPA
[14:49] <sushantd84> ./configure  --enable-libfaad --enable-gpl --enable-libfaac --enable-nonfree --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-version3 --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-libmp3lame  --enable-cross-compile --target-os  What I should write for target-os I am using ubuntu 10.04 lucid
[14:49] <guids> how can i put a tty in raw mode?
[14:49] <tdn> How do I play a .wma audio file? 'file' says that it is of type Microsoft ASF. When I play it in audacious it is just noise.
[14:49] <trelayne> dagni,  s3r3n1t7  thanks.. but how do I know when a security patch for the non-PPA is out if I am using the PPA version ? Won't I only get notices for the PPA version?
[14:49] <phix> kerneloops_: What do you do if you ask the question but no one answers it or even acknowledges you said it>?  How long should I wait until repeating the question?
[14:49] <tdn> Maybe this is some kind of DRM.
[14:49] <s3r3n1t7> sushantd84, what are you trying to do?
[14:49] <kerneloops_> s3r3n1t7: reinstall doesnt remove configuration files (firefox profile..) right?
[14:49] <tdn> If so, how do I strip it?
[14:49] <sushantd84> ffmpeg
[14:49] <s3r3n1t7> kerneloops_, that's the idea
[14:49] <Jeruvy> trelayne: assuming you didn't pin any official packages, simply remove the apps from the ppa normally, then remove the ppa from your sources, then install the official packages.
[14:49] <[TK]D-Fender> phix: As well
[14:49] <dagon666> sushantd84: leave it blank, it should autodetect
[14:49] <sushantd84> oh is it let me try then
[14:49] <sushantd84> thanks
[14:49] <[TK]D-Fender> jessicaBR: Yes
[14:50] <[TK]D-Fender> phix: All is well with you?
[14:50] <dagon666> sushantd84: the options are probably something like linux/solaris etc... so it will default to linux
[14:51] <phix> [TK]D-Fender: Can't complain, I have virt-manager and asterisk / dahdi / hylafax issues though, but besides that awesome
[14:51] <jessicaBR> [TK]D-Fender, crap... any other source of info to solve my problem?
[14:51] <Punkoff> Why the hell does aptitude's solution finder think that upgrading packages is a last resort?
[14:51] <s3r3n1t7> sushantd84, why are you trying to compile ffmpeg by hand? It's just in the repo's isn't it?
[14:51] <sushantd84> ok thanks dagon66:
[14:51] <phix> oh and I Have an issue with people not answering or acknowledging my questions :(
[14:52] <sushantd84> yes but its not working for me
[14:52] <sushantd84> kerneloops: i got this message Must specify target arch and OS when cross-compiling
[14:52] <sushantd84> :(
[14:52] <fabiosilva> bom dia..
[14:52] <sushantd84> hey dagon666 i got this message Must specify target arch and OS when cross-compiling
[14:53] <[TK]D-Fender> phix: Which VM engine?
[14:53] <fabiosilva> preciso de ajuda para resolução de tela no ubuntu
[14:53] <[TK]D-Fender> jessicaBR: what's "crap"?
[14:53] <phix> [TK]D-Fender: kvm / qemu using lib-virt / virt-manager
[14:53] <[TK]D-Fender> jessicaBR: It displays just fine for me...
[14:53] <fabiosilva> alguem poderia me ajudar...
[14:53] <[TK]D-Fender> phix: this is something I should get into one of these days...
[14:53] <oCean> phix: you should have patience, it's all volunteers in these channels. No need to repeat within 10-15 minutes
[14:53] <phix> [TK]D-Fender: It is telling me it can't get info on a char device or somethin
[14:54] <oCean> !br | fabiosilva
[14:54] <phix> oCean: ok, it's been about that now, you want to hear about the issue I am having/? :)
[14:54] <oCean> phix: just ask in the channel
[14:54] <phix> libvirtError: operation failed: failed to retrieve chardev info in qemu with 'info chardev'
[14:54] <jessicaBR> [TK]D-Fender, I cannot open that website, dunno why...
[14:56] <tdn> sushantd84, how to strip drm from the WMAs with ffmpeg?
[14:56] <sushantd84> tdm: I am just born !! :) i am very new for ffmpeg
[14:56] <phix> tdn: isn't that violating copyright protection?
[14:56] <sushantd84> newbee
[14:57] <An_Ony_Moose> I want to set up a second session as the same user on my computer that I can then access via VNC. The problem is that I need it to run at a lower resolution and with some panel options changed so I can use it on a mobile device, while retaining my normal options in the main session and the configuration files. Is this possible, and if yes, how?
[14:58] <BluesKaj> tdn, install ubuntu-restricted-extras , then the medibuntu repository
[14:58] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | tdn
[14:58] <tdn> phix, well, in my country it is legal to strip DRM in order to either 1) backup the bought media, or 2) be able to play/view the content on a different device, like an iPod.
[14:58] <tdn> BluesKaj, that is already installed.
[14:59] <phix> tdn: Can I live in your country?
[14:59] <tdn> phix, probably.
[14:59] <lillecarl> Does anyone know how to make a gnome-terminal shortcut that will execute a command as soon as i open it and show the terminal?
[14:59] <phix> tdn: Denmark?
[14:59] <tdn> phix, correct
[14:59] <siick> hello, im running ubuntu 10.10 and trying to run a .tcl script, im getting the error msg '"Tcl": have 8.4,need 8.5;', apt-cache tells me i got 8.5 installed. i tried google but no real help, any ideas?
[14:59] <phix> haha awesome, I wen't there 3 yrs ago :)  I was allowed in, I might consider moving there
[15:00] <wild> For a virtual  drupal 7  development environment, what is the best way to set that up in ubuntu 10.10
[15:00] <hiromi> lillecarl, run in terminal is for that
[15:00] <dagon666> lillecarl: why dont you add all needed commands directly to .bashrc ?
[15:00] <lillecarl> dagon666, will that result in each new opened terminal executes that command?
[15:01] <dagon666> lillecarl: yes
[15:01] <dagon666> in every opened
[15:01] <lillecarl> Well thats not really what i wanted :P
[15:01] <lillecarl> Whatever then :P
[15:02] <dagon666> lillecarl: try gnome-terminal --help and see if there is a parameter which lets you specify the startup command
[15:02] <genii-around> siick: I'd recommend  sudo update-alternatives --config tclsh             and choose the 8.5
[15:02] <hiromi> lillecarl, as I said, create the shortcut and make sure you check Run in Terminal
[15:02] <s3r3n1t7> lillecarl, gnome-terminal -e command
[15:02] <sushantd84> dagon66 hey any guess ?
[15:02] <lillecarl> hiromi, oh :D
[15:03] <hiromi> lillecarl, or you can use what s3r3n1t7 said
[15:03] <lillecarl> Yah thnx alot :)
[15:03] <dyd> is it possible to connect via VNC from my windows machine to ubuntu?
[15:03] <s3r3n1t7> dyd, yes
[15:03] <dyd> nice, thanks
[15:03] <siick> genii-around thanks a lot, ill give it a bash
[15:04] <lillecarl> hiromi, thnx alot, it worked :)
[15:04] <hiromi> lillecarl, anytime :)
[15:04] <MotherMGA> Hello. IsHello. Is there a way to change the speed of my mouse scrollwheel for all applications? There isn't a setting in mouse preferences. there a way to change the speed of my mouse scrollwheel for all applications? There isn't a setting in mouse preferences. I tried using xset to change mouse properties, but I couldn't figure it out.
[15:04] <BluesKaj> tdn, you have to, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[15:05] <hiromi> MotherMGA, as far as I know, that is GTK+ specific and usually depends on the viewport's dimensions
[15:05] <kerneloops_> How can I remove all Totem movie player file associations? I want VLC to open ALL video files automatically
[15:05] <MotherMGA> hiromi: any suggestions?
[15:05] <wild> with a fresh install of Ubuntu 10.10, I want to setup a drupal 7 site, is there a fast setup solution?
[15:06] <hiromi> MotherMGA, not that I know of... usually developers can change it on a per-application basis but that is it
[15:06] <MotherMGA> scrollspeed is a basic feature that can be changed in all other OS's. Seems silly that ubuntu doesn't let you do it.
[15:06] <MotherMGA> ok. thanks.
[15:06] <hiromi> MotherMGA, How can you change scroll speed when it is hardware dependent?
[15:06] <An_Ony_Moose> is it possible to force creation of a second GNOME session as the same user?
[15:07] <MotherMGA> Normally, there is a setting in the mouse driver.
[15:07] <MotherMGA> I would guess it does it by means of a message multiplier.
[15:07] <hiromi> MotherMGA, hmm... then it's still hardware dependent... Ubuntu usually doesn't come with specific driver settings
[15:07] <siick> genii-around: ok i did select tcl8.5, still getting the same error, do i need to restart some service/box?
[15:08] <hiromi> MotherMGA, it does work like that, multiplies messages, but I don't think you can do that in X11/Ubuntu
[15:09] <zagabar> I changed my domain name that points to my ubuntu server and I can receive mails when sending to the new name, but outgoing mail still looks like it comes from the old address. Where to change that?
[15:09] <wild> Is there any way to get to the files on a virtual hard drive from windows?
[15:09] <genii-around> siick: May not take effect until next login
[15:09] <MotherMGA> thanks for your help hiromi
[15:10] <hiromi> MotherMGA, tho, if you are a developer you might want to take a look at parts of GTK+ and see if there is any possibility of increasing the step size on default widgets or reemit a scroll event
[15:10] <trtry> what
[15:10] <siick> genii-around ok thanks, got "update-alternatives: using /usr/bin/tclsh8.5 to provide /usr/bin/tclsh (tclsh) in manual mode." will try relog, thanks again for your help.
[15:10] <trtry> whats to do on a such chat?>
[15:10] <BluesKaj> kerneloops_, right click on your media files that have different extns so cover all the bases , choose "open with /other , then in dialog choose multimedia ,vlc, check the "Remember application association"
[15:10] <hiromi> MotherMGA, you can make GTK+ modules that work on any application ...
[15:11] <MotherMGA> ALright.
[15:11] <kerneloops_> Why "Preferred Applications" does not list VLC player?!
[15:12] <Besogon> kerneloops_: cause it is not a 'preferrable application' ;)
[15:12] <dagon666> Besogon: :D
[15:12] <tdn> BluesKaj, that is done now. However, still only noise when I play the file?
[15:12] <kerneloops_> lol?
[15:12] <kerneloops_> .p
[15:12] <BluesKaj> kerneloops_,choose "other" then multimedia
[15:12] <kerneloops_> BluesKaj: yes i tried vlc %f
[15:13] <kerneloops_> custom* not other
[15:13] <BluesKaj> then the file is probly corrupted, kerneloops_
[15:13] <kerneloops_> BluesKaj: what file
[15:14] <ruan> where is gedit located?
[15:14] <kerneloops_> BluesKaj: I just want to remove Totem player file associations
[15:14] <tdn> BluesKaj, the file is not corrupted. But DRM protected. It works in Windows Media PLayer.
[15:14] <kerneloops_> ruan: "whereis gedit"
[15:14] <willy_1977> ruan, run whereis gedit from a terminal
[15:14] <ruan> hmm, found it in /usr/bin
[15:15] <BluesKaj> kerneloops_, Read This very carefully!  right click on your media file , choose "open with "other ", then in dialog choose multimedia ,vlc, check the "Remember application association"
[15:16] <Kruptein> BluesKaj: :D
[15:16] <BluesKaj> tdn, did you install libdvdcss2?
[15:16] <kerneloops_> BluesKaj: yes I know that way! need to do it for every video extension bah
[15:16] <BluesKaj> kerneloops_, well it can't be that difficult :)
[15:16] <Kruptein> hey I have pidgin and empathy installed,  and I always use pidgin, but sometime empathy just starts and logs in to my accounts disturbing my pidgin sessions and causing me to lose some messages
[15:16] <kerneloops_> it's a pain
[15:17] <coz_> tdn,  run this command     sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[15:17] <Kruptein> is there any possible way to avoid this without removing empathy from my system?
[15:17] <tdn> BluesKaj, yes.
[15:17] <tdn> BluesKaj, but can dvdcss strip drm from WMA files? It is not a DVD.
[15:17] <tdn> coz_, ok
[15:18] <kerneloops_> Kruptein: I have a theory: if I dont use a program I remove it :p
[15:18] <hiromi> Kruptein, in Startup Applications uncheck the Empathy entry
[15:18] <BluesKaj> coz_, libdvdread4 is supposed to install with libdvdcss2
[15:18] <coz_> Kruptein,  mm maybe make the executalbe .old
[15:18] <BluesKaj> tdn, yes
[15:18] <tdn> coz_, I did that. Still garbage when playing the WMA in mplayer
[15:18] <ruan> what's the difference between "performance" and "ondemand"?
[15:18] <coz_> BluesKaj, oh!  mm I always use that command
[15:18] <BluesKaj> coz_, well, it can't hurt :)
[15:19] <tdn> BluesKaj, coz_, it did not help.
[15:19] <BluesKaj> BBL
[15:19] <Kruptein> kerneloops_:  I also have that theory :D except that It already occured twice that pidgin wasn't able to connect when empathy was ;)
[15:19] <BluesKaj> wma, tdn is audio
[15:19] <tdn> BluesKaj, correct.
[15:19] <tdn> BluesKaj, is that a problem?
[15:19] <Kruptein> hiromi: empathy isn't in my startup list ;)
[15:19] <Kruptein> it just at random times starts itself :D
[15:20] <Kruptein> it's quite scary actually
[15:20] <Geidrow> Hi! I plan use Lucid from DVD, create 1 extended partition and 3 logical: system, swap, home. Is it enough space if system partition's size will be 7 GB, home - 10 GB. For instance, I burn 9 GB DVD; where temp files will saved - on system or home partition?
[15:20] <BluesKaj> you don' need libdvdcss2 for that, tdn
[15:20] <tdn> BluesKaj, thats what I thought. Then what do I need?
[15:20] <tdn> BluesKaj, here is output from audacious: http://paste.adora.dk/P1996.txt
[15:20] <BluesKaj> w32codec, tdn
[15:20] <tdn> E: Unable to locate package w32codec
[15:21] <tdn> non-free-codecs?
[15:21] <coz_> tdn,    http://packages.medibuntu.org/maverick/index.html
[15:21] <tdn> Ahh w64codecs
[15:21] <tdn> :)
[15:21] <cyybborg> can anyone quickly run me through how firefox 4 is being distrubuted for ubuntu?
[15:21] <coz_> tdn,   scroll to bottom and choose
[15:21] <Kruptein> cyybborg: ppa or bz2
[15:21] <cyybborg> ?
[15:21] <iceroot> !ff4 | cyybborg
[15:22] <Kruptein> cyybborg: you do know what a ppa is?
[15:22] <cyybborg> no
[15:22] <cyybborg> maybe, but not by that acronym
[15:22] <tdn> coz_, I installed w64codec now. Then what? audacious can still not play it. However, it does not segfault anymore. Just garbage.
[15:22] <Kruptein> cyybborg: it's personal package archive
[15:22] <hiromi> Kruptein, how does it start up ... randomly then?
[15:22] <coz_> tdn,   did you try  vlc?
[15:22] <cyybborg> i believe I downloaded it from mozila
[15:22] <Kruptein> cyybborg: if you don't know the acronym you should learn about ubuntu and how it installs/removes things
[15:22] <coz_> cyybborg,   Personal Package Archive  = PPA
[15:23] <Kruptein> cyybborg: that's fine too
[15:23] <tdn> coz_, did now. No sound.
[15:23] <Kruptein> cyybborg: you need to unpack the .tar.bz2 and then run "firefox"
[15:23] <coz_> tdn,   o0  this is odd  ,, while that file is playing open a terminal    alsamixer   check sliders
[15:23] <tdn> coz_, and lots of errors in the terminal.
[15:23] <Kruptein> do not run "firefox-bin" though
[15:23] <iceroot> Kruptein: i already told him how to do it
[15:23] <tdn> coz_, sliders?
[15:23] <Kruptein> hiromi: yes :D
[15:23] <tdn> coz_, alsamixer?
[15:23] <cyybborg> ok, like go into the directory and run the firefox file in a terminal window?
[15:23] <iceroot> cyybborg: please dont use the bz2, use what ubottu told you
[15:23] <coz_> tdn,  yeah open another terminal  type    alsamixer
[15:23] <tdn> coz_, the sound volume is not turned down :)
[15:24] <Kruptein> iceroot: yes I know but as he already downloaded the .tar.gz from mozilla
[15:24] <coz_> tdn,  the volume sliders
[15:24] <tdn> coz_, yes, sound is turned up.
[15:24] <Kruptein> cyybborg: no terminal needed, but ppa is better
[15:24] <coz_> tdn,   is this a downloaded file you are trying to run?
[15:24] <tdn> coz_, I can hear other music I play.
[15:24] <hiromi> Kruptein, fun ... I wish that sort of randomness was turned on by default
[15:24] <Kruptein> cyybborg: like iceroot told
[15:24] <Kruptein> hiromi: it would make life more awesome :D
[15:24] <Kruptein> I would think I'm in minecraft =)
[15:24] <hiromi> Kruptein, definitely :)
[15:24] <coz_> tdn,   where did you get this video?
[15:25] <tdn> coz_, it is *audio*. A WMA file.
[15:25] <coz_> tdn,  ah ok and was it one you downloaded?
[15:25] <tdn> coz_, from an mp3 audiobook.
[15:25] <hiromi> Kruptein, in any case, remove your account from Empathy then; I have nothing more to offer
[15:25] <tdn> coz_, yes.
[15:25] <coz_> tdn,   do you have the link to that specific file?
[15:25] <tdn> coz_, unfortuneately not.
[15:25] <coz_> tdn,   how big of a file is it?
[15:26] <Kruptein> hiromi: I'm just going to remove it as I only need it some times and It is installed in some seconds  thanks anyway :)
[15:26] <Geidrow> I mean plan to install from dvd
[15:26] <tdn> 21 megs
[15:26] <cyybborg> I did all that
[15:26] <coz_> tdn,  ok go to speedyshare.com ,, upload the file then give me the link so I can try it here
[15:26] <cyybborg> not sure if it worked, my ffox is still 3.6
[15:26] <Kruptein> cyybborg: what did you do exactly
[15:27] <cyybborg> ubottu
[15:27] <cyybborg> ubottu's instructions
[15:27] <coz_> !ff4
[15:27] <Kruptein> cyybborg: if you added the ppa,  updated and installed firefox it should work,  maybe try upgrading
[15:27] <tamps> The bluetooth manager what is default installed to ubuntu works fine, but when I install some third party tools then it wont work, eg I installed syncEvulution the I search my bt phone it will find it and then dosent work. it will get connected whit ubuntu default bt manager but not my tools.
[15:28] <coz_> cyybborg,  try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:28] <Elefant> hey guys, I updated my 10.10 to 2.6.38 kernel and it seems it crashes because of wifi. Where should I report this bug?
[15:28] <Kruptein> tamps: try blueman
[15:28] <Kruptein> or is that the default xD :p
[15:29] <ruan> Elefant: how did you install the 2.6.38 kernel?
[15:29] <Elefant> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.38-natty/ as always
[15:29] <coz_> tdn,  the other option might be to  cd to that files location...make sure you have ffmpeg installed  then   ffmpeg -i nameof.wma  nameof.mp3  or  nameof.wav
[15:29] <ruan> !bug
[15:30] <ruan> Elefant: see above
[15:30] <cyybborg> hey coz thanks
[15:30] <cyybborg> that worked
[15:30] <tamps> the default is gnome-bluetooth
[15:30] <tamps> I think I will uninstall it
[15:30] <cyybborg> i know i'm an idiot when it comes to doing things w/ ubuntu
[15:31] <ruan> gnome-bluetooth? isnt it bluetooth and bluman?
[15:31] <cyybborg> im just not a programmer type so it is difficult to understand how this stuff works
[15:31] <MrBushid1> is it possible to set up iptables by hostnames or is purely ip related?
[15:31] <ruan> blueman*
[15:31] <Kruptein> cyybborg: it is not that difficult actually :)  you get used to it very quickly  I advise you to do some reading about   packages
[15:32] <tdn> coz_, ffmpeg fails. Error while decoding stream #0.0
[15:32] <slipp3d> tamps, you might want to install the ppa for the newer blueman version https://launchpad.net/~blueman/+archive/ppa
[15:33] <slipp3d> I was having issues with my bluetooth stuff but after i updated to that it's working perfectly
[15:34] <adrian_kx> anyone like the new unity style?:d
[15:34] <BlackDragonTechy> Me.
[15:34] <tjkent> I am having issues with reading my cpu temps
[15:35] <wizardken> adrian_kx, what new unity style?
[15:35] <adrian_kx> ubuntu natty alpha 3
[15:35] <adrian_kx> i am trying to get used to it:))
[15:36] <adrian_kx> at i am using that option called ubuntu classic in batty:P
[15:36] <hiromi> adrian_kx, how's the alpha on your machine? I want to try it but kinda scared because I have some really important things that should not go away these few days. :)
[15:36] <tjkent> help?
[15:37] <hiromi> tjkent, yes? what have you tried so far?
[15:37] <joris> Hi. I wanted to thank everyone for helping me out earlier with my possibly rooted box. I've formatted and reinstalled ubuntu 10.04 lucid.
[15:37] <adrian_kx> well after u boot first some applets dont load:)
[15:37] <adrian_kx> be patience and use update manager
[15:37] <adrian_kx> 300m of updates magicaly fix lots of things
[15:37] <wizardken> hey why do they say 64bit is unstable?
[15:37] <adrian_kx> in 24 is beta realease
[15:38] <adrian_kx> 64 bit is stable for me
[15:38] <adrian_kx> this alfa 11.04 works faster that my stable mavrick
[15:38] <hiromi> adrian_kx, seriously, beta quality. I can live with that! :)
[15:38] <adrian_kx> if u wanna play safe in 2 days u can try beta quality:P
[15:39] <adrian_kx> i have an athlon neo x2 base lappy with hd 3200 latest kernel fixed alot of things for me
[15:40] <hiromi> adrian_kx, as long as it doesn't screw monitors and filesystems up, I can basically live with it
[15:40] <adrian_kx> it doesnt
[15:40] <adrian_kx> if after some update u have crashes in the interface just empty your /temp folder
[15:40] <chinthaka> hi
[15:40] <adrian_kx> and everything works fine
[15:41] <chinthaka> I need to get the current directory full path using ubuntu terminal
[15:41] <kerneloops_> adrian_kx: * /tmp
[15:41] <adrian_kx> i wait for ati driver to be realeased couse they`ll need testers for feedback on bloob:))
[15:41] <hiromi> adrian_kx, okay... what about GNOME. does it come with the last one
[15:41] <chinthaka> what is the code line for that
[15:41] <chinthaka> can anyone please help me
[15:41] <kerneloops_> !ask
[15:41] <stianhj> chinthaka, pwd
[15:41] <adrian_kx> as i see it still uses gtk2+
[15:41] <adrian_kx> not coming with latest gnome
[15:42] <adrian_kx> gnome will release on 4 april
[15:42] <chinthaka> stianhj:thank you very much
[15:42] <hiromi> adrian_kx, okay
[15:42] <chinthaka> ubottu:thanks for our advice also
[15:42] <kerneloops_> lol
[15:43] <adrian_kx> ok guys have fun i`m off to watching a movie:P
[15:43] <izinucs> my desktop is going through the chkdisk process on boot.. it seems to be stuck at 66%.  Did the same yesterday and I cancelled the process which is why it's attempting again today.  If I cancel again is there a log to find out what was going on?
[15:44] <Sonne> izinucs, have you tried booting without splash?
[15:45] <izinucs> Sonne: no.. would that make a difference with chkdsk?
[15:45] <Kruptein> izinucs: it shows error messages and log
[15:45] <Sonne> maybe you could see if there are any useful messages on the console
[15:45] <Kruptein> (on the screen)
[15:46] <agent42> How can I add an additional drop down menu to the top panel so I have "Applications Places System MyMenu"?
[15:46] <izinucs> Sonne: chkdisk is done before the boot process to the rest of the system. I can't ssh into it and there's no login prompt until chkdks is done
[15:46] <izinucs> Kruptein: where? /var/log/???
[15:46] <Kruptein> izinucs: I was talking about the boot screen without splash :p
[15:47] <Sonne> izinucs, how do you know it's stuck at 66% then?
[15:47] <izinucs> Kruptein: ah.. that's what I just flashed on.. how do I eliminate splash?
[15:47] <Sonne> ah, i just reread
[15:47] <izinucs> Sonne: you're right
[15:47] <Sonne> try pressing tab or esc, can't remember
[15:47] <Kruptein> just press every god damn key xD
[15:47] <Sonne> or edit the boot options from GRUB, removing "splash" and "silent"
[15:47] <Sonne> :D
[15:48] <izinucs> Sonne: I'm familure with editing grub in grub1 but where to do it in grub2?
[15:48] <Sonne> izinucs, i'm talking about editing it on the fly... like pressing E at the kernel selection prompt :)
[15:49] <izinucs> Sonne: ah.. got it .. I'll give it a shot.. thanks
[15:49] <fabiosilva> asil
[15:49] <Dreki_> msg nickserv help
[15:49] <fabiosilva> como entro no ubuntu brasil
[15:50] <Sonne> !br | fabiosilva
[15:50] <kerneloops_> grub-common                 Record successful boot for GRUB
[15:50] <kerneloops_> needed right
[15:50] <kim0> Hi folks, just letting you know "Ubuntu Cloud Days" starting in 10mins in #ubuntu-classroom .. Thanks
[15:50] <kerneloops_> k :)
[15:51] <Kruptein> kim0 sounds interesting :p
[15:51] <kim0> You're welcome :)
[15:52] <Kruptein> joined :p
[15:52] <StepNjump> !pr
[15:52] <ruan> StepNjump: pr? what are you looking for?
[15:52] <StepNjump> hi ruan oh I was just curious
[15:53] <ruan> !fishing
[15:53] <kerneloops_> StepNjump: /query ubottu
[15:53] <StepNjump> Where can I get all the commands for ubottu
[15:53] <StepNjump> oh there it is.. thanks kerneloops
[15:53] <ruan> !factoid
[15:53] <jwmto> hello, I'm having difficulty making the earphone jack work properly on my IMAC running Ubuntu 10.04
[15:53] <jwmto> Can anyone advise, or let me know if there is a better place to inquire?
[15:54] <kerneloops_> jwmto: maybe you need to add a model to audio config
[15:54] <kerneloops_> jwmto: check this http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sound/alsa/HD-Audio-Models.txt
[15:54] <StepNjump> kerneloops, how do I get the help menu of ubottu?
[15:54] <jwmto> kerneloops thank you I'll take a look
[15:54] <ruan> StepNjump: /msg ubottu
[15:54] <StepNjump> and then?
[15:54] <ruan> StepNjump: to search, check !factoid
[15:55] <jwmto> Kerneloops_ this is beyond me, do you have time to handhold a little?
[15:55] <kerneloops_> jwmto: search the imac model audio issue in ubuntu forums I bet you'll find the solution
[15:55] <Sonne> !ping
[15:55] <StepNjump> thanks Ruan
[15:55] <jwmto> Kerneloops_ I'll try
[15:56] <Sonne> !botsnack
[15:56] <Sonne> haha! ok, i'll stop :D
[15:56] <Pici> Sonne: Please don't play with the bot in here./
[15:56] <Kruptein> :p lol
[15:56] <kerneloops_> leave ubottu alone :>
[15:56] <tjkent> !botsnack
[15:57] <kerneloops_> ..
[15:57] <kerneloops_> Is this really needed? pppd-dns                    Restore resolv.conf if the system crashed.
[15:57] <kerneloops_> resolv.conf is just the DNS address  used
[15:57] <kerneloops_> nameserver IP.
[15:57] <thereIsOnlyXUL> !botsnack because I love abusing commands like a 4chan newfag
[15:57] <thereIsOnlyXUL> -_-
[15:57] <kerneloops_> !botabuse
[15:58] <joris> ls
[15:58] <joris> oops
[15:58] <tjkent> komputes: help
[15:59] <bartek_> siemka
[16:00] <Kruptein> Are we just overloading ubottu for some reason? :D
[16:00] <komputes> tjkent: sure, how can I be of assistance
[16:00] <tjkent> I am having a problem with cpu temps
[16:01] <komputes> tjkent: does your computer shut down on its own?
[16:01] <tjkent> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10592294#post10592294
[16:01] <kerneloops_> tjkent: /J ##hardware
[16:02] <komputes> tjkent: will respond on the forum thread, PM me if you want to discuss
[16:03] <iver> is there a specific public channel to discuss hardware in?
[16:03] <steviedons> Hi all, has anyone managed to get 11.04 unity desktop to work in virtualbox? If so were there any special tricks to get it to work?  I have the guest additions installed but it just hangs when i log in
[16:03] <aeon-ltd> iver: #hardware
[16:03] <slipkid08> Hello all
[16:04] <iver> aeon-ltd: its invite only..
[16:05] <tsimpson> iver: it's ##hardware, and you need to register with NickServ to join it
[16:05] <tsimpson> !register | iver
[16:05] <iver> !register | iver
[16:06] <wct> 有人没
[16:07] <iver> tsimpson: thanks
[16:09] <zer0s> hi guys i'm getting a second mouse icon whenever i launch starcraft,ideas on how to fix this?
[16:09] <zer0s> *any ideas
[16:09] <slipkid08> how do I turn a maverick installation into a web server?
[16:09] <ikonia> slipkid08: install the apache2 package
[16:10] <slipkid08> Ahh. Knew I was forgetting something.
[16:10] <slipkid08> Thanks
[16:12] <chinthaka> I used sudo nano <filename> to open a file and edit. I finished editing it. Need to know how to save and exit from it. Can anyone please help?
[16:12] <HerperDerper> LMP
[16:12] <HerperDerper> LAMP
[16:12] <spartakus> Hello everyone.
[16:12] <sl33k> i just installed ubuntu, mount gives me this http://pastebin.com/nU0503jE . how do i proceed?
[16:12] <elFidel> chinthaka: open your eyes and focus on the bottom of nano? there should several key-combos be listed
[16:12] <padeekins> hello, everyone
[16:13] <elFidel> chinthaka: it will ask the save-question i.e. if you trigger the exit combo
[16:13] <Kruptein> chinthaka: ^ means control
[16:14] <BluesKaj> chinthaka, to save , ctrl+o , then enter, then ctrl+x to exit
[16:14] <padeekins> @chinthaka control + x at the same time and the "y"
[16:14] <sl33k> i just installed ubuntu, mount gives me this http://pastebin.com/nU0503jE . how do i proceed?
[16:14] <Kruptein> chinthaka:  so  ctrl + o   to save,    or ctrl + x  to close and  save
[16:14] <chinthaka> Kruptein: ^ was the problem for me
[16:14] <slipkid08> Lol
[16:14] <slipkid08> Wow noobular
[16:14] <HerperDerper> use sudo mount?
[16:14] <chinthaka> thanks evryone for helping me
[16:14] <slipkid08> We've all been there though, I guess
[16:14] <padeekins> can anyone point me to the right direction I'm struggling to get a Hauppauge tv tuner card installed
[16:15] <BluesKaj> padeekins, which hauppauge tvtuner ?
[16:15] <zer0s> anyone have any wine experience
[16:15] <zer0s> ?
[16:15] <_du> hi all. I've encountered quite strange issue with postfix: SASL SMTP authentication failed (according to log), but mail still delivered to local receipient. What else should i set to disable non-authenticated mails at all?
[16:15] <padeekins> win-tv hvr 850 model 1200
[16:15] <HerperDerper> zer0s: what you want to do
[16:17] <zer0s> i'm trying to run starcraft
[16:17] <slipkid08> Via wine?
[16:17] <zer0s> but i keep getting 2 mouses
[16:17] <zer0s> yeah
[16:17] <zer0s> wine
[16:18] <zer0s> the mouse from the main screen seems to carry over into the screen that wine generates
[16:18] <zer0s> and just stick there
[16:18] <slipkid08> Hmm. Wine kinda sucks for games anyway
[16:19] <zer0s> wine had no problems with starcraft in my last install
[16:19] <padeekins> Experimental support for the hvr 850 started here http://www.kernellabs.com/blog/?p=1445 and then got moved upstream, I've tried just about every instuction out there without luck... Maverick 10.10
[16:19] <zer0s> but that was on 9.04
[16:19] <slipkid08> 10.10 wine is harsh for some reason
[16:19] <zer0s> i'm on 10.04
[16:19] <zer0s> 10.10 is too finicky for me
[16:20] <slipkid08> Way finnicky
[16:20] <BluesKaj> padeekins, is this the stand alone model with component video inputs and USB connection to the pc ?
[16:20] <slipkid08> But I like it
[16:20] <zer0s> i'll wait for the next lts revision
[16:20] <Abhijit> hi
[16:21] <Abhijit> is there any software other than agave which will suggest colour combinations?]
[16:21] <padeekins> USB
[16:22] <brophat> my lexmark printer driver worked on 32 bit ubuntu but is not working on 64 bit ubuntu
[16:22] <LetsGo67> Hello!  I have the Español language pack installed, but it doesn't work!  Help please!
[16:23] <Abhijit> +
[16:23] <Abhijit> sorry
[16:23] <erUSUL> !es | LetsGo67
[16:23] <Abhijit> ??
[16:24] <Abhijit> oh espanol means spanish?
[16:24] <LetsGo67> !no | erUSUL
[16:24] <brophat> does it make sense that a driver can work on 32 bit ubuntu but not work on 64 bit ubuntu?
[16:25] <sipior> brophat: sure.
[16:25] <sl33k> i need help with my mounting?
[16:25] <ikonia> sl33k: just ask the question
[16:25] <brophat> sipior do the drivers say if they are for 32 or 64 because i have never seen that designation
[16:26] <_k2s_>  /join #js
[16:26] <sl33k> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/S8WMQkRx
[16:27] <sipior> brophat: a binary module is built against a certain architecture, just as any other executable would be. did you have a specific problem or example in mind?
[16:27] <sl33k> also, http://pastebin.com/nU0503jE is my mount
[16:27] <ikonia> sl33k: what's the problem with it ?
[16:27] <Norbert> you look forward on ubuntu beta 1 ?
[16:27] <sl33k> ikonia: i dont know how to mount
[16:28] <ikonia> Norbert: 11.04 chat in the ubuntu+1 channel please
[16:28] <ikonia> sl33k: what do you want to mount ?
[16:28] <brophat> sipior where is the list of drivers that run on 64 bit ubuntu?
[16:28] <specious> aaaaB please510
[16:28] <sl33k> ikonia: other windows partitions
[16:28] <ikonia> sl33k: are you using ubuntu desktop ?
[16:29] <sl33k> ikonia: yea
[16:29] <sl33k> ikonia: wubi installed
[16:29] <ikonia> sl33k: ok, so they should be in the places menu already
[16:29] <sl33k> just now
[16:29] <ikonia> sl33k: ahh, sorry I don't support wubi
[16:29] <EvilPhoenix> eww... wubi...
[16:29] <EvilPhoenix> sl33k:  you'd probly be better off asking on the forums or somewhere
[16:30] <ikonia> EvilPhoenix: he's fine asking here
[16:30] <sipior> brophat: generally, drivers are built along with the kernel they augment. there is no 64-bit specific list of open source drivers, to my knowledge. the problem only comes up should you attempt to load a binary kernel module provided by a vendor.
[16:30] <sl33k> ikonia, EvilPhoenix: but i have asked help here many a times
[16:30] <ikonia> EvilPhoenix: wubi is supported here
[16:30] <ikonia> sl33k: if you ask every 15 minutes or so, someone who knows the answer will respond
[16:31] <sl33k> ikonia: ok
[16:31] <brophat> sipior the lexmark printer driver worked on my 32 bit ubuntu but does not work on my 64 bit Ubuntu
[16:31] <ikonia> sl33k: to get more attention the question should be "I don't know how to mount my multiple windows partitions within ubuntu desktop"
[16:32] <sl33k> ikonia: cool
[16:32] <sipior> brophat: where did you get the driver from? it's a networked printer, or?
[16:32] <EvilPhoenix> ikonia:  true, but i've never seen more than like 4 people ever ask about it (and only about 3 people responded about wubi)
[16:32] <brophat> sipior i got the driver from the lexmark website and it is not a networked printer
[16:33] <brophat> sipior do i have to do this?  http://www.ehow.com/how_6800521_install-driver-ubuntu-64-bit.html
[16:33] <wng> could someone with a relatively basic install of ubuntu 10 tell me what number this command outputs? 'ps ax | wc -l'
[16:33] <sl33k> I don't know how to mount my multiple windows partitions within ubuntu desktop? mount command shows http://pastebin.com/nU0503jE
[16:33] <sipior> brophat: go back to their website, and be sure to fetch the correct driver. or contact their support desk.
[16:33] <padeekins> Anyone have experience porting windows apps or making them work with WINE? The program I'm interested in is FAAST http://projects.ict.usc.edu/mxr/faast/
[16:34] <padeekins> It is keyboard bedings for the Microsoft Kinect
[16:34] <ikonia> padeekins: the guys in #winehq may have
[16:34] <brophat> sipior they only have one ubuntu driver for my printer
[16:34] <ruan> sl33k: the command is: mount [device] [mount-point]
[16:34] <ikonia> padeekins: porting windows apps to linux is not very realistic, but the guys in #winehq may have tips on how to optimise wine
[16:34] <sipior> brophat: it's possible you only need to install the 32-bit compatibility libraries. have you done so?
[16:35] <bastidrazor> sl33k: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[16:35] <brophat> sipior that is the link i showed you above
[16:35] <sipior> brophat: have you done so?
[16:35] <padeekins> ikonia > Thx I'll head there
[16:35] <brophat> sipior no
[16:35] <DexterLB> where can I see what packages (with versions) will be in the natty main repo?
[16:35] <sipior> brophat: well, now you know how to proceed.
[16:35] <brophat> sipior that link shows what i have to do?
[16:35] <jjp> wng: this has no common meaning, it depends to much, as an instance, on which task u selected. ps ax |wc -l gives 183 currently for me, which should be 179 without terminal, shell, ps and grep required for the actual measurement
[16:35] <crescendo> Anyone have a utility to manage the ~/.known_hosts file?
[16:36] <sipior> brophat: it looks correct, yes.
[16:36] <wng> jjp: a customer who just got an ubuntu machine from us has it outputting 800
[16:36] <brophat> sipior i mean can i trust ehow? hahaha
[16:36] <switch88> i am using Backtrack4, and i wonder im trying to get my steelseries siberia usb soundcard to work, but where can i find drivers for it?
[16:36] <brophat> sipior ok will dop
[16:36] <wng> jjp: which is way higher than the 200ish i'm used to, so I was just making sure
[16:36] <jjp> wng: is it a desktop or a server ?
[16:36] <ikonia> switch88: backtrack linux support in #backtrack-linux channel please
[16:37] <wng> jjp: it's server actually, I hadn't checked that thanks
[16:37] <wng> jjp: do you know if that's normal for server?
[16:37] <jjp> wng: well then, there are chances server processes fork if needed, so that is not exceptionnal
[16:41] <switch88> i am using Backtrack4, and i wonder im trying to get my steelseries siberia usb soundcard to work, but where can i find drivers for it?
[16:42] <aeon-ltd> !backtrack | switch88
[16:42] <aeon-ltd> oh too late, didn;t read the log :) sorry
[16:42] <ikonia> keep up please ;)
[16:44] <blackbox> Hello, fast one how to create user with all bash settings like file type colouring and using arrows to navigate command history ?
[16:44] <ikonia> blackbox: using the useradmin gui should make a user exactly the same as the default user
[16:44] <blackbox> last time non of the worked properly
[16:45] <blackbox> sorry i need it via comand line
[16:45] <jjp> !useradd
[16:45] <ikonia> blackbox: useradd
[16:46] <ruan> !adduser
[16:46] <prower> hello :> regarding wayland, is that going to be a choice for installation in the upcoming version of ubuntu, or is it going to be forced upon us? i'd rather not use it at all to be quite honest, i've given it some test runs and the results weren't spectacular
[16:46] <a931bw> is this right syntax?
[16:46] <a931bw> fwrite('top5.dat', $result);
[16:46] <a931bw> and
[16:46] <a931bw> fopen("top5.dat" , "a+");
[16:46] <ruan> i think the factoid 'adduser' needs to be applied as useradd
[16:46] <a931bw> in begining of file
[16:46] <sl33k> ruan: i need to mount windows partitions on wubi. what do?
[16:46] <a931bw> sorry wrong channel
[16:46] <ruan> sl33k: first get the partition device name. type sudo fdisk -l
[16:47] <ruan> sl33k: then sudo mkdir /mnt/windows
[16:47] <ruan> sl33k: then mount [devicename] /mnt/windows
[16:47] <ruan> sudo mount
[16:47] <sipior> a931bw: for future reference, those functions all have man pages attached :-)
[16:48] <sl33k> ruan: http://pastebin.com/09ETiMUa
[16:48] <erUSUL> ruan: no; adduser is the correct command to use. useradd clearly states in its man page that it is not mean to be used by humans
[16:49] <erUSUL>  useradd is a low level utility for adding users. On Debian, administrators should usually use adduser(8) instead.
[16:49] <a931bw> sipior, its php ;P
[16:49] <sipior> a931bw: makes no difference.
[16:49] <ruan> alright then
[16:49] <a931bw> sipior, and i already found error , using php.net
[16:49] <ikonia> erUSUL: useradd is the default tool for all Unix and Linux variants
[16:49] <ruan> sl33k: which of them is the partition you want to mount?
[16:50] <sl33k> ruan: each one
[16:50] <ruan> hmm.
[16:50] <sl33k> ruan: what is that below system "W 95"
[16:50] <sl33k> ?
[16:51] <ruan> sl33k: it's ext4
[16:51] <ruan> sl33k: i think
[16:51] <RFleming> Greetings and salutations!
[16:51] <ikonia> hello
[16:51] <switch88> how do you add a soundcard in alsamixer? i ran alsamixer then tried to press "F6" since it worked for some dude on the ubuntu forums, but didnt work for me!
[16:51] <ruan> maybe it's the wubi partition type
[16:51] <RFleming> How do I go about recursively copying using FTP, and deleting each file after transfer?
[16:52] <dagni> trench: what the fuck you want from me ? stop this msg spam.
[16:52] <ikonia> dagni: drop the language
[16:52] <dagni> he keep spamming at me !
[16:53] <bench> is someone with knowledge about partition formats functioning with multiple os's available to chat?
[16:53] <ikonia> dagni: ok, put him on ignore, but don't swear in the channel
[16:53] <sl33k> ruan: what do i enter after sudo mkdir /mnt/windows
[16:53] <dagni> okay.
[16:53] <ruan> dagni: spam him !pm > trench
[16:53] <ikonia> bench: happy to chat
[16:53] <ikonia> ruan: don't tell people to spam
[16:53] <dagni> !pm > trench
[16:53] <ruan> alright then. once
[16:53] <dagni> !pm > trench
[16:53] <IdleOne> stop
[16:53] <dagni> does it work ?
[16:53] <ikonia> dagni: he has the message
[16:54] <dagni> he try to sell me ubuntu C
[16:54] <dagni> CD
[16:54] <ikonia> dagni: enough, put him on ignore
[16:54] <dagni> i did
[16:54] <ikonia> dagni: then drop it and move on
[16:54] <loglad> kindergarten
[16:54] <dagni> ikonia: how old are you ?
[16:55] <sl33k> ruan: what do i type after sudo mkdir? http://pastebin.com/09ETiMUa
[16:55] <EvilPhoenix> dagni:  not a question to ask here
[16:55] <ikonia> dagni: doesn't matter
[16:55] <aeon-ltd> what does 0 swappiness translate to in when it starts to write to disk?
[16:55] <pitlimit> Is there any differentiation between passing a parameter by reference or simply just passing a pointer to the object if you don't plan on making any modifications?
[16:55] <dagni> ikonia: then i wont ask you for age but are you girl ?
[16:55] <EvilPhoenix> uh...
[16:55] <dagni> your nick sounds like girl
[16:55] <pitlimit> oops
[16:55] <IdleOne> dagni: this channel is for Ubuntu support. Please stay on topic.
[16:55] <ruan> sl33k: im not sure if more than one device can be mounted to a dir
[16:56] <ruan> sl33k: but "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows" should work
[16:56] <dagni> my ubuntu worked ok so i'm ubuntu ex-fan can't i ask some stuff like ikonia sex ?
[16:56] <sl33k> ruan: it is one device but different partitions
[16:56] <IdleOne> dagni: no
[16:56] <Foxhoundz>  Does anyone know how to enable the Gobi 2000 GPS on Ubuntu?  I followed the directions here (http://blog.bagearon.com/?p=69)  but gpsd is still not detecting any GPS modules
[16:56] <Foxhoundz> For the Google Chrome CR-48
[16:56] <dagni> but sorry to tell that ubuntu 10.10 is not for beginners anymore, it can freeze
[16:56] <dagni> without reason
[16:57] <sl33k> ruan: i try that command?
[16:57] <ruan> dagni: not to say that it happens to all users
[16:57] <ruan> sl33k: yes
[16:57] <dagni> that is why i decided to jump on debian
[16:57] <dagni> and wow, debian is great distribution
[16:57] <mneptok> dagni: you are offtopic again
[16:57] <dagni> with ubuntu 10.10 i installed some more packages and i rebooted it
[16:57] <sipior> dagni: do you have a question, or were you planning on rambling without end?
[16:57] <dagni> and since the reboot my laptop freeze few minutes after booting
[16:57] <dagni> noone here was able to help me
[16:57] <roffe> is it possible to install several distros on one usb
[16:58] <dagni> so the only help i gave to myself was jump to debian
[16:58] <sl33k> ruan: it was successful
[16:58] <dagni> now i understand why there is this gold thing "there ise ubuntu and there is linux." ;-)
[16:58] <genii-around> roffe: If you install to it like a hard drive and put grub or other bootloader, yes
[16:58] <ruan> sl33k: you could try mounting the rest to /mnt/windows but if it doesnt work, then sudo mkdir /mnt/windows1 etc
[16:59] <dagni> sipior: my question wont be answered by you, because you don't know why my ubuntu was freezing ?
[16:59] <sipior> dagni: life is hard sometimes.
[16:59] <dagni> sipior: life is easy, choices are bad sometimes
[16:59] <dagni> you know.
[16:59] <sipior> dagni: my lack of psychic ability prevents me from answering your question.
[16:59] <ikonia> dagni: if your machine is freezing the most common issue is hardware related
[16:59] <sl33k> ruan: but what order to consider for sda1, sda2 like?
[16:59] <roffe> genii-around, ok, but I was more thinking of having several distros to select from that run live
[16:59] <sl33k> or random works?
[17:00] <dagni> ikonia: problem is, when i installed ubuntu 10.10 it worked good
[17:00] <ruan> sl33k: random works
[17:00] <dagni> until i installed some more packages and it's dependencies
[17:00] <dagni> it _shouldn't_ happen on _STABLE_ release
[17:00] <dagni> right ?
[17:00] <kerneloops_> rsync                       fast remote file copy program daemon  Is this needed?
[17:00] <ikonia> dagni: that doesn't mean it's not developed a hardware problem, nor does it mean you've not installed software that is causing your hardware to lock, remove the packages you're installed
[17:00] <ruan> !info rsync
[17:01] <sl33k> ruan: is there a command to let me know my partitions have mounted correctly?
[17:01] <kerneloops_> ruan: already did that.
[17:01] <kerneloops_> :P
[17:01] <dagni> ikonia: what happens when software i install have about 74 dependencies? how i am able to track which dependencie broke my system ?
[17:01] <ruan> i dont comprehend 'standard' though. what does that mean
[17:01] <dagni> isn't stable release supposed to be _STABLE_ ?
[17:01] <ikonia> dagni: no, you're supposed to know how to use it
[17:01] <ikonia> dagni: what software did you install ?
[17:02] <dagni> ikonia: i installed hedgewars
[17:02] <genii-around> roffe: Because the usual way that kind of usb install is made is by converting the iso file and chainloading in isolinux is not an easy task, you'd be better off to just install onto the usb like a hard drive instead
[17:02] <ikonia> dagni: where did you install it from ?
[17:02] <dagni> and some kernel headers
[17:02] <dagni> i'm kernel developer
[17:02] <dagni> and i found ubuntu to be unstable for that ;(
[17:02] <ikonia> dagni: get real
[17:02] <prower> dagni: i find that extremely difficultto believe
[17:02] <ikonia> dagni: then don't use it, bye
[17:02] <dagni> ikonia: as i said, i'm using debian now
[17:02] <dagni> prower: because ?
[17:02] <ikonia> dagni: then there is nothing more to discuss,
[17:03] <prower> dagni: because someone developing on the kernel would have enough sense to be able to resolve broken package dependencies?
[17:03] <ruan> sl33k: there may be something to list mounted partitions
[17:03] <ikonia> prower: let it go,
[17:03] <sl33k> ruan: it says you must specify file system type?
[17:03] <dagni> prower: guess who removed Big Kernel Lock from kernel ;)
[17:03] <roffe> genii-around, ok, that explains why I've never seen the option. Thanks, your alternative is certainly better than no alternative!
[17:03] <dagni> <-
[17:03]  * prower golf-claps
[17:03] <ikonia> dagni: don't care, we support ubuntu here, you have no support request as you're using debian, we are done
[17:03] <ikonia> prower: stop it
[17:04] <ruan> sl33k: try sudo mount /dev/sdX ntfs-3g /mnt/windowsX
[17:04] <kerneloops_> Which services can I disable? acpi-support apparmor binfmt-support fancontrol grub-common lm-sensors ondemand pcmiautils pulseaudio rsync speech-dispatcher sudo winbind and x11-common
[17:04] <ruan> kerneloops_: i dont think grub and x11 are safe to disable
[17:04] <escoria1> Anyone from UK?
[17:04] <dagni> ruan: both grub and x11 are safe to disable.
[17:04] <dagni> escoria1: yes
[17:05] <escoria1> dagni, hi.
[17:05] <dagni> hey ;-)
[17:05] <ruan> !info grub-common
[17:05] <dagni> ruan: that's out of topic
[17:05] <kerneloops_> ?
[17:05] <escoria1> Look, I'm translating something and I need to clarify a question.
[17:05] <escoria1> Perhaps you can help me out.
[17:05] <dagni> ikonia: what the ?
[17:06] <sl33k> ruan: shows some commads
[17:06] <dagni> ikonia: x11 is for desktop, grub - you don't need it, it's not critical
[17:06] <dagni> what you kicked me for..
[17:06] <escoria1> Quarterly Sales Quota of the European Commercial Network 50%weight
[17:06] <kerneloops_> dagni: I use desktop..
[17:06] <escoria1> What do you understand?
[17:06] <dagni> kerneloops_: then why you didn't said that
[17:06] <ikonia> dagni: you need grub to be able to boot, and ruan was helping him, he's not offtopic, good bye
[17:06] <kerneloops_> lol
[17:07] <dmart> -devel
[17:07] <escoria1> About the weight and the 50%
[17:07] <kerneloops_> im thinking of disable rsync speech-dispatcher
[17:07] <escoria1> Like just that 50% belongs to the referred entity?
[17:07] <escoria1> dagni
[17:08] <escoria1> What do you think?
[17:08] <escoria1> Or anybody else...
[17:08] <escoria1> Quarterly Sales Quota of the European Commercial Network 50%weight
[17:08] <prower> escoria1: No point asking him, ikonia's got an itchy trigger finger today ;P
[17:08] <[segfault]> escoria1: do you have an Ubuntu support question?  if not, that is offtopic.
[17:08] <ruan> escoria1: translation to what exactly?
[17:08] <escoria1> I know that, but I'm in a hurry and need to solve that quickly.
[17:09] <ikonia> escoria1: what langage do you need to translate from ?
[17:09] <sl33k> ruan: do i ask on ubuntu-offtopic?
[17:09] <escoria1> I'm just not used to the way you express the percentage.
[17:09] <ikonia> escoria1: what langage do you need to translate from ?
[17:09] <escoria1> ikonia, it's not about that but just understanding what it's referred to.
[17:10] <ikonia> escoria1: ok, then try the channel ##english
[17:10] <ruan> sl33k: just check the syntax of mount
[17:10] <escoria1> Fuck off.
[17:10] <ruan> sl33k: ah.
[17:10] <ruan> sl33k: try sudo mount -t /dev/sdX ntfs-3g /mnt/windowsX
[17:10] <ruan> sl33k: i mean
[17:10] <wild> Is it possible to save a restorable snapshot of my ubuntu system before I make big changes to it.
[17:11] <ruan> sl33k: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdX /mnt/windowsX
[17:12] <ruan> sl33k: to check currently mounted partitions just type mount
[17:13] <sl33k> ruan: not working
[17:13] <Peter___> help needed, currently installing ubuntu, but the installion has stopped at "who are you", it wont let me procede any further, also at the bottom it has been "getting the time from a network server for 30minutes now"
[17:14] <ruan> sl33k: any error?
[17:14] <[segfault]> Peter___: try a lower case user name instead of uppercase
[17:15] <kerneloops_> CPU ondemand
[17:15] <kerneloops_> o.o
[17:15] <sl33k> ruan: it says failed to access volume
[17:15] <Peter___> im so stupid, sorry for bothering you guys
[17:15] <Peter___> thanks also
[17:15] <kerneloops_> Peter___: problem was?
[17:15] <ruan> sl33k: are you using the real number instead of sdX?
[17:15] <wild> kerneloops great name!
[17:15] <Peter___> i had a capital letter in username
[17:16] <kerneloops_> Peter___: i think thats not the problem?
[17:16] <albech> anyone else have problems connecting to MSN on Empathy?
[17:16] <Peter___> no, its working now
[17:16] <ruan> capital letters are not permitted in usernames
[17:16] <kerneloops_> cant we use BIG letters in username?
[17:16] <kerneloops_> lol
[17:16] <ruan> kerneloops_: no
[17:16] <kerneloops_> ok
[17:16] <sl33k> ruan: ya, do i have to mkdir each time?
[17:16] <cp> Anybody tried firefox4?
[17:16] <ruan> cp: me
[17:16] <kerneloops_> yes cp it's good
[17:17] <ruan> gui is slightly different
[17:17] <kerneloops_> radiance theme :)
[17:17] <runge> only issue I have with it is tiny menu is not updated :).. not developers fault though
[17:17] <kerneloops_> ruan: no the gui is the same but the options changed :)
[17:17] <kerneloops_> and there is hardware acceleration option :)
[17:18] <cp> Using ppa at https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable/+packages?
[17:18] <wild> Can the ubuntu screen span my monitor like it does with windows?
[17:18] <ruan> addon bar, tabs on top, addon menu tab, etc
[17:18] <kerneloops_> oh yea
[17:18] <ruan> cp: yep. same ppa as !ff4
[17:18] <kerneloops_> ruan: languages are disabled and ubuntu modifications
[17:18] <ruan> yeah but apt still works
[17:19] <kerneloops_> addons manager is really good
[17:19] <runge> kerneloops_,  where is the hardwere acceleration option? cant find it
[17:19] <runge> is it in about:config or something?
[17:19] <kerneloops_> runge: advanced general
[17:19] <kerneloops_> in preferences
[17:20] <cp> I am going to install ff4 on my old slow laptop, a 600Mhz 315MB RAM, we'll see if it can handle it.
[17:20] <kerneloops_> hm lol
[17:20] <pearsonl> so have any 0days been release for the lastest kernel
[17:20] <runge> aah there. thanks!
[17:20] <kerneloops_> 315mb you dont have a change
[17:20] <kerneloops_> im using 355 right now :p
[17:20] <pedro__> hi from vienna
[17:20] <sl33k> ruan: i am stuck badly
[17:20] <kerneloops_> 364mb ram
[17:21] <kerneloops_> hi pedro__
[17:21] <oCean> pearsonl: hi, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[17:21] <guampa> i'm helping a remote user with a newly usb-3g modem, she's using ubuntu jaunty. I see she hasn't got instaled usb_modeswitch, but i recall there was a fully udev based method (before usb_modeswitch was mainlined) to switch modems, is that right?
[17:21] <cp> 315108k total is what tp shows...
[17:21] <cp> top
[17:21] <pearsonl> just wondering if the most up to date ubuntu kernel was safe..?
[17:21] <guampa> i'd need to know if it's possible
[17:22] <ruan> linux kernel you mean
[17:22] <pearsonl> yes linux kernel that ubuntu uses
[17:22] <pearsonl> sorry
[17:22] <bfri> does anyone here know how to send text messages from your email to a cell phone?
[17:22] <IdleOne> pearsonl: as safe as it can be until the next update
[17:22] <oCean> pearsonl: yes it is safe, it is not the latest, bleeding edge version
[17:22] <teamcoltra> I am looking for a certain program, I had it yesterday but can't find it again, it apparently helps restore partitions that you screw up. All I remember is it has "fix" in the name and tha its GNU
[17:22] <pearsonl> ok thank you
[17:23] <ruan> teamcoltra: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[17:23] <ruan> not sure about the fix part though
[17:24] <pedro__> What action would you take if someone spams launchpad and you think you know a responsible company/person ?
[17:24] <ruan> sl33k: which one are you trying to mount?
[17:24] <teamcoltra> ahha, testdisk :)
[17:24] <oCean> pedro__: how is that related to ubuntu support? Chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:24] <kerneloops_> ruan: rsync is useless at boot right?
[17:25] <Pici> pedro__: If you're looking for somewhere to report it, try #launchpad
[17:25] <Zozoious> question: how do i get my usb webcams microphone set as my default input device? it is listed under hardware and states that it has 1 input but under the input tab it does not show that it exists
[17:25] <ruan> kerneloops_: rsync wouldn't be used to boot
[17:25] <pedro__> ok
[17:25] <nishant> most times i have to refresh my window to see a Java applet , why is that so - and the no: times I have ropen is just random , sometimes second attempt or sometimes  no chance
[17:25] <kerneloops_> ruan: but im afraid it breaks something
[17:25] <bob__> how do you change channels using smuxi?
[17:25] <GeekyAdam> just installed fresh ubuntu 10.10 on a machine and every time i run sudo apt-get install <package> i get a warning "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" which is weird because i havent added any repos or anything. fresh install using default ubuntu repos, why aren't they authenticated?
[17:26] <ikonia> GeekyAdam: change the repo to a different one
[17:26] <ikonia> GeekyAdam: re-test
[17:26] <ks07> hey all, been writing a bash script, but it's complaining about an unexpected 'fi' - it looks okay to me. Anyone care to have a look? http://pastebin.com/FXVGrtqZ
[17:26] <ruan> GeekyAdam: have you done a sudo apt-get update?
[17:26] <nit-wit> GeekyAdam, do you get a key number missing
[17:26] <ikonia> ks07: try #bash
[17:26] <ruan> i had to do that when i couldnt authenticate
[17:26] <ks07> okey dokey
[17:26] <kerneloops_> GeekyAdam: open sorftware sources :)
[17:26] <GeekyAdam> ikonia: why should i change the repos? they're the default ones set with ubuntu, shouldnt they be authenticated?
[17:26] <GeekyAdam> ruan: yes
[17:27] <GeekyAdam> nit-wit: no, just a list of packages
[17:27] <ikonia> GeekyAdam: they should but one may be having a problem, which is why I'm suggesting trying a different one for a test
[17:27] <GeekyAdam> kerneloops_: i dont know what that means
[17:27] <nit-wit> GeekyAdam, there is a key it can be snatched
[17:27] <Pici> GeekyAdam: Are you getting any errors when you do apt-get update?
[17:27] <kerneloops_> GeekyAdam: alt+f2 gksu software-properties-gtk
[17:27] <GeekyAdam> Pici: no not that i noticed
[17:28] <GeekyAdam> kerneloops_: i opened software sources, but what do you want me to do?
[17:29] <GeekyAdam> btw to fix the problem i just added --force-yes and it looks like its working, but it just stopped...looks like its timing out on "Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com" showing 0% and not moving.
[17:30] <GeekyAdam> this seems super weird for a fresh wipe and ubuntu install from disk
[17:30] <kerneloops_> GeekyAdam: you should change update servers to something near you
[17:30] <ikonia> GeekyAdam: is it possible you are having network problems
[17:30] <ikonia> GeekyAdam: that repo appears to be up and working
[17:30] <GeekyAdam> ikonia: no. highly unlikely.
[17:30] <GeekyAdam> last possibility
[17:30] <GeekyAdam> on a T3 at work
[17:31] <ikonia> that doesn't mean your workstation is not having problems
[17:31] <ikonia> GeekyAdam: can you resolve the name via dns
[17:31] <GeekyAdam> ikonia: pinging...
[17:31] <kerneloops_> GeekyAdam: type host us.archive.ubuntu.com in terminal
[17:31] <GeekyAdam> getting responses fine
[17:31] <kerneloops_> ok
[17:32] <ikonia> GeekyAdam: can you telnet to it on port 80
[17:32] <GeekyAdam> just started working again
[17:32] <GeekyAdam> so whats up with the "not authenticated!" warning?
[17:33] <kerneloops_> keys
[17:33] <GeekyAdam> kerneloops_: pls explain
[17:33] <GeekyAdam> or link
[17:33] <ikonia> GeekyAdam: it means it can't verify the package signitures
[17:33] <kerneloops_> GeekyAdam: alt+f2 and type gksu software-properties-gtk
[17:33] <Guest45548> hi
[17:33] <GeekyAdam> why is ubuntu having problems authenticating its own repos?
[17:34] <GeekyAdam> kerneloops_: already have software sources up, what next?
[17:34] <ikonia> GeekyAdam: try one of the other repos, that would a good test
[17:34] <kerneloops_> GeekyAdam: just change update server and it will work
[17:34] <Guest45548> i m having problem removing google desktop   can anyone tell
[17:34] <Zozoious> question: how do i get my usb webcams microphone set as my default input device? it is listed under hardware and states that it has 1 input but under the input tab it does not show that it exists
[17:34] <kerneloops_> GeekyAdam: in ubuntu software tab
[17:35] <kerneloops_> "download from:"
[17:35] <kerneloops_> pingthe servers automatically
[17:35] <GeekyAdam> kerneloops_: it says server for united states. only other option is main server.
[17:36] <ruan> GeekyAdam: you can try main server to see if the problem persists
[17:37] <GeekyAdam> ruan: i feel like a fresh ubuntu install shouldnt need to select an alternative download source. if thats what i need to do then fine, just feels weird.
[17:37] <kerneloops_> GeekyAdam: click on "Other..."
[17:37] <ikonia> GeekyAdam: stop arguing it and help us debug it
[17:37] <kerneloops_> and choose the server from the list
[17:37] <kerneloops_> GeekyAdam: what is your ubuntu version?
[17:37] <ikonia> GeekyAdam: there maybe a problem, we need to know why, the more you moan about a fresh install not needing this sort of thing, the more pointless it becomes to help
[17:37] <GeekyAdam> its like instlaling windows then using an alternative update source than
[17:37] <ikonia> GeekyAdam: ok - don't use it then
[17:37] <GeekyAdam> windows updates
[17:38] <ikonia> GeekyAdam: if it doesn't meet your support needs, don't use it, thanks for your tiem
[17:38] <hemza> I have installed cdemu but i could not get it working
[17:38] <GeekyAdam> its 10.10
[17:38] <kerneloops_> GeekyAdam: so you are able to choose another update server.. from your country
[17:38] <ikonia> GeekyAdam: have you tested it with an alternative download yet ?
[17:38] <GeekyAdam> gotta go
[17:38] <ikonia> what a surprise
[17:39] <kerneloops_> lol
[17:41] <supernenekukox> hola
[17:41] <kerneloops_> what is the website to give ideads about ubuntu?
[17:41] <supernenekukox> buenas tardes
[17:41] <kerneloops_> for*
[17:41] <supernenekukox> hello
[17:41] <kerneloops_> supernenekukox: hola
[17:41] <natrixnatrix89> what do I do if transmission hangs..
[17:42] <natrixnatrix89> I restart it, but there's no use for that..
[17:42] <kerneloops_> natrixnatrix89: killall transmission?
[17:42] <supernenekukox> entendidos en lubuntu por favor?
[17:42] <natrixnatrix89> no
[17:42] <natrixnatrix89> I kill it
[17:42] <natrixnatrix89> but after I restart it
[17:42] <kerneloops_> supernenekukox: what is your country?
[17:42] <kerneloops_> !es | supernenekukox
[17:42] <natrixnatrix89> it still does nothing
[17:42] <supernenekukox> im from spain
[17:42] <hemza> who now how to get cdemu work in ubuntu
[17:42] <kerneloops_> ok then /join #ubuntu-es
[17:42] <supernenekukox> ok thank you
[17:43] <kerneloops_> supernenekukox: kill -p transmission?
[17:43] <kerneloops_> supernenekukox: kill -9 sorry
[17:43] <OrangePeel> Need help putting a bunch of files in ZIP folders so I can send them to sendspace because I can't seem to burn them(It Errors...not going to get into why/how....it just won't work) .....
[17:43] <OrangePeel> How do I put them to Zip folders
[17:43] <kerneloops_> supernenekukox: oops im messing up. type ps ax | grep transmission and then kill -9 <ID<
[17:44] <kerneloops_> supernenekukox: or use system monitor.. it's easier
[17:44] <natrixnatrix89> kerneloops_: you're not getting the point. I'd rather want to delete all the config files. and restart it. But I can't find a folder ".transmission"
[17:44] <trism> OrangePeel: put them in a folder, right click the folder in nautilus and choose compress, then select .zip as the extension
[17:44] <OrangePeel> trism nautilus ?
[17:44] <trism> OrangePeel: the file browser
[17:44] <kerneloops_> natrixnatrix89: you want to reset Transmission preferences?
[17:44] <natrixnatrix89> yep
[17:45] <OrangePeel> oh
[17:45] <OrangePeel> hold on let me try trism, thanks
[17:45] <kerneloops_> natrixnatrix89: ye i cant fint it too it may be located at .config
[17:46] <natrixnatrix89> yeah
[17:46] <natrixnatrix89> thanks
[17:46] <kerneloops_> wait
[17:46] <kerneloops_> natrixnatrix89: join #transmission
[17:47] <kerneloops_> or visit http://transmissionbt.com/
[17:47] <Xion> if i go teo my passwords and encryptions keys and delete tweetdeck,,will it stop asking me for keyring at program start ?
[17:48] <naptastic> What do I have to add to my /etc/apt/mirror.list to make my local apt-mirror so I can *install* from it and not just *update*?
[17:49] <iceroot> naptastic: you install from /etc/apt/sources.list and you mirror other repos from /etc/apt/mirror.list
[17:50] <iceroot> naptastic: apt-mirrir is reading the mirror-file, apt-get is reading the sources.list
[17:50] <Gunni> http://xkcd.com/859/ *shivers*
[17:50] <naptastic> iceroot, right. My client is booting from PXE into the Ubuntu installer, which works, but if I tell it to install from my local repository, it says the necessary files aren't there.
[17:51] <blahsphemer> when would this be true: (geteuid() == 0 && getuid() != 0)
[17:51] <Neroon> Hi there
[17:51] <iceroot> naptastic: you have a Packages.gz there?
[17:52] <naptastic> iceroot, where specifically?
[17:52] <iceroot> blahsphemer: what is geteuid?
[17:52] <iceroot> naptastic: in your local repo
[17:52] <blahsphemer> iceroot, ge3t effective user id
[17:52] <guampa> whats the difference between /etc/udev/rules.d and /lib/udev/rules.d ?
[17:52] <iceroot> blahsphemer: what is a effective uid?
[17:53] <Neroon> Could anyone offer some help with a wlan prob? It keeps asking for the pwd (got the right one) and iwevent keeps telling not-associated
[17:53] <naptastic> iceroot, the local repo is a big place :-) where should it be relative to mirror/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu?
[17:53] <sipior> blahsphemer: it would be true when a non-root user ran a set-uid root executable.
[17:53] <iceroot> naptastic: in the branche, e.g. maverick/i386 also "all" and "amd64" have there own Packages.gz
[17:54] <blahsphemer> iceroot, you could change the euid to something else but not your uid
[17:54] <naptastic> iceroot, yes, there are Packages.gz files there.
[17:54] <hoangnn> have any one from vietnam
[17:54] <iceroot> naptastic: and what is "apt-get update" telling?
[17:55] <blahsphemer> sipior, iceroot Thanks.
[17:55] <naptastic> iceroot, apt-get update and apt-get upgrade work fine on all my local clients. Installing fails. Lemme go get the exact error message...
[17:56] <iceroot> naptastic: if installing fails, sound like the Packages.gz is out of sync with the packages the repo contains
[17:58] <kerneloops_> I have these services enabled http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=7g6Ec6RR
[17:58] <kerneloops_> is it good?
[17:59] <naptastic> iceroot, I can understand that; does Packages.gz represent the packages from the original release, or does it keep up with updates?
[17:59] <kerneloops_> !info winbind
[17:59] <kerneloops_> can i disable this
[17:59] <momo> !info firefox
[17:59] <naptastic> iceroot, I'm pretty sure I've cleaned out all the original packages and just have the updated versions...
[17:59] <Neroon> Anyone got some wlan skills?
[17:59] <Radios> kerneloops_: start disabling fan control
[18:00] <Radios> its a waist of energy
[18:00] <iceroot> naptastic: Packages and Packages.gz contains the same content. i dont know if apt-mirror is syncing the Packages or if it is calling something like apt-archive which is building the Packages
[18:00] <Radios> lol
[18:00] <hemza> gcdemu how to work
[18:01] <naptastic> iceroot, :-/ well, . . . I'mma go symlink... something... to something else... or something. Thanks!
[18:01] <iceroot> naptastic: have a look at the Packages(.gz) if it is sharing the same packages as in your repo
[18:01] <Engammalsko1> Hi!
[18:01] <prower> i just enabled the firefox 4 ppa, everything upgraded fine :> except for flash, apparently, although i saw an update for flashplugin-installer it doesn't seem to have done anything after installation?
[18:01] <Engammalsko1> Is there a way to make a marked part semi transparent in gimp?
[18:01] <kerneloops_> prower: restart firefox.
[18:03] <Engammalsko1> No one knows?
[18:03] <iceroot> naptastic: if you are not syncing all packages but syning the packages.gz you shuld rebuid it with apt-ftparchive
[18:03] <kerneloops_> Engammalsko1: wait for answer :p
[18:03] <prower> kerneloops_, ...Yes, that was the first thing I did actually :> not listed in about:plugins
[18:03] <iceroot> Engammalsko1: #gimp
[18:03] <kerneloops_> prower: try to reinstall flash?
[18:03] <Engammalsko1> Oh, ok.
[18:04] <kerneloops_> Engammalsko1: #gimp
[18:04] <drc> Engammalsko1: I'd try irc.gimp.org/#gimp-users  It's the official GIMP irc channel
[18:04] <edbian> prower, What is the issue?  I was just working with flash this morning.
[18:04] <kerneloops_> k
[18:05] <Engammalsko1> aha, I joined #gimp but I can try gimp-users too : ) Thanks.
[18:05] <kerneloops_> prower: delete ~/.macromedia/ folder
[18:05] <prower> edbian: Well, I basically just upgraded from the stable firefox ppa to firefox 4, when i started it up everything except flash was working
[18:05] <kerneloops_> it stores flash settings and flash cookies
[18:05] <kerneloops_> it's evil
[18:05] <prower> kerneloops_, Ahh...I'll give that a try, didn't even realize it was there :> Sneaky
[18:06] <edbian> prower, try what he said.  I have an idea if it doesn't work.
[18:06] <kerneloops_> prower: I would make sure firefox was not running, delete .macromedia folder and reinstall flash
[18:06] <edbian> kerneloops_, What exactly is kept in .macromedia?
[18:07] <kerneloops_> edbian: flash settings and flash cookies known as super cookies
[18:07] <kerneloops_> an attack to privacy.
[18:07] <edbian> kerneloops_, Why would those things prohibit firefox4 from using flash?
[18:07] <prower> hmm...reinstalling didn't work, i'll try removing the folder then
[18:07] <kerneloops_> edbian: nothing :)
[18:07] <kerneloops_> edbian: just the settings
[18:08] <edbian> kerneloops_, oh I see
[18:08] <kerneloops_> edbian: if the problem is flash x)
[18:09] <prower> edbian, kerneloops_ , no luck with removing the folder it's still not detected :<
[18:09] <kerneloops_> hm weird.
[18:09] <jo-erlend> I wanted to run tests on my desktopcouch and afterwards, it doesn't work at all. I'm not able to login. Any ideas how to fix this?
[18:09] <kerneloops_> prower: go to synaptic and search for flash
[18:10] <sudipta> hi
[18:10] <kerneloops_> hi
[18:10] <nox_> woops. Hi ;)
[18:11] <StepNjump> Gosh windows sucks!
[18:11] <prower> kerneloops_, okay, i'm there...says that flashplugin-installer is installed
[18:11] <kerneloops_> StepNjump: yep
[18:11] <nox_> StepNjump, : Yes thats why weeee all use ubuntu :))
[18:11] <kerneloops_> or any other linux distro
[18:12] <StepNjump> Today it decided it wouldn't recognize all my USB devices! Win 7!!!! damn!
[18:12] <kerneloops_> lol
[18:12] <StepNjump> Love Ubuntu!
[18:12] <nox_> kerneloops_, yess But Ubuntu Ftw :)
[18:12] <kerneloops_> prower: i dont know man I upgraded to firefox 4 and flash is working fine
[18:12] <edbian> prower, I know how to get flash working.
[18:12] <kerneloops_> prower: second
[18:13] <bimo> Help me please! My wireless network has disabled after update ubuntu
[18:13] <gabeodess> Hey, so when I "apt-get install ffmpeg" I get a bunch of 404s and a messages that reads "Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?".  I tried both of those but got the same message.  here is my /etc/apt/sources.list: http://pastie.org/1704935  Can anyone help me?
[18:13] <kerneloops_> bimo: kernel update?
[18:13] <bimo> yah
[18:13] <prower> kerneloops_, your guess is as good as mine on that one, although looking at flashplugin-installer's installed files, there doesn't appear to be anything in the package other than some created directories that are empty?
[18:13] <prower> edbian: Oh, well any help you could provide would be appreciated :>
[18:13] <StepNjump> Nox_ kerneloops_ I had plenty of work to do but I'm exhausted after troubleshooting for hours!
[18:14] <StepNjump> What about a stable system for a change!
[18:14] <kerneloops_> gabeodess: alt+f2 and type: gksu software-properties-gtk
[18:14] <edbian> prower, i was briefly distracted.  Do you have a /usr/lib/browser-plugins folder with a fil called libflashplayer.so in it?
[18:14] <kerneloops_> gabeodess: go to system > admin > and open synaptic manager.. hit reload button
[18:15] <gabeodess> kerneloops_: errr... I'm on a server.  everything is command line
[18:15] <bimo> kerneloops : ya 2.6.35.25 to 2.6.35.28
[18:15] <kerneloops_> gabeodess: sudo apt-get update ?
[18:15] <nox_> gtg have fun:)
[18:15] <prower> edbian: It doesn't appear that I do, oddly enough
[18:15] <kerneloops_> bimo: remove the newest kernel and it should work again :)
[18:15] <gabeodess> kerneloops_: I get a bunch of 404s
[18:15] <edbian> prower, install flashplugin-nonfree
[18:16] <StepNjump> guys, my SD card reader is not detected automatically. Is there a driver I could manually download?
[18:16] <kerneloops_> gabeodess: is internet connection working in there?
[18:16] <kerneloops_> gabeodess: and DNS too?
[18:16] <gabeodess> yep.  we are hosting a website
[18:16] <bimo> kerneloops : ok i will try that and give you report :)
[18:16] <gabeodess> kerneloops_: http://pastie.org/1704950
[18:17] <prower> edbian: okay, it's installed...still don't see that directory though
[18:17] <kerneloops_> gabeodess: ok the problem is the repositories server
[18:17] <kerneloops_> gabeodess: i dont know how to change it from terminal
[18:17] <edbian> prower, you have a /usr/  ?
[18:17] <gabeodess> kerneloops_: okay... thanks for trying
[18:17] <prower> edbian: I sure hope so ;> Yes, /usr is there...I'm using 64-bit if that makes a difference
[18:18] <kerneloops_> gabeodess: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[18:18] <kerneloops_> :D
[18:18] <gabeodess> sweet
[18:18] <joris> Hi.
[18:18] <kerneloops_> hi
[18:18] <genii-around> !intrepid
[18:18] <joris> Zend Server totally hosed my new Ubuntu 10.04 system
[18:18] <edbian> prower, 64 bit... ok.  do you have a lib?  What is missing?
[18:18] <kerneloops_> prower: i would install flash non free too
[18:18] <joris> trying to install openssh-server, I get:
[18:18] <joris> ssh-vulnkey: /usr/local/zend/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.8: no version information available (required by ssh-vulnkey)
[18:18] <joris> any idea on how to restore the original paths?
[18:18] <genii-around> gabeodess: You need to replace: us.archive  with old-releases
[18:18] <prower> edbian: /usr/lib/browser-plugins, /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins is there and contains all of the other ones I'm used to
[18:19] <gabeodess> genii-around: cool.  how do I fild the old-releases?
[18:19] <edbian> prower, What is in each one?  Is libflashplayer.so in any of them?
[18:19] <Engammalsko1> Is the Christian edition an official os? Made by the same creators?
[18:20] <kerneloops_> prower: im using flash 10.2 btw
[18:20] <LjL> Engammalsko1: no
[18:20] <kerneloops_> !ot | Engammalsko1
[18:20] <prower> edbian: Nope, i tried find to see if it was in any subdirectory but i couldn't locate it
[18:20] <root> ننن
[18:20] <root> ن
[18:20] <Engammalsko1> Ok.
[18:20] <kerneloops_> root: english please :)
[18:20] <LjL> kerneloops_: that seemed like a sort of legitimate question to me...
[18:20] <prower> kerneloops_, yep, that's the same version that i'm (supposed to) have :>
[18:20] <maco> Engammalsko1: "Christian Edition" does not even exist with that name anymore (hasnt for a year or two) because it's a trademark violation, given that it's not official
[18:20] <gabeodess> kerneloops_: so it looks like I just have to update my sources.list... do you know which repositories I am supposed to be using?
[18:20] <root> السلاتم عليكم
[18:20] <kerneloops_> LjL: hm is that Ubuntu?
[18:20] <maco> !sa | Guest33607
[18:21] <Guest33607> و
[18:21] <edbian> prower, Look in synaptic.  See what files flashplugin-nonfree touched.  It should have put something in /usr/lib/browser-plugins
[18:21] <LjL> kerneloops_: yeah, Ubuntu Christian Edition. it's not official, but that's what he was asking :)
[18:21] <kerneloops_> :) ok
[18:21] <genii-around> gabeodess: alt-f2 then: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list           make all the changes there and save it
[18:21] <kerneloops_> genii-around: he's using CLI
[18:21] <kerneloops_> sudo nano :p
[18:21] <kerneloops_> or vim
[18:21] <Guest33607> سلام
[18:21] <Guest33607> يا هكر
[18:21] <LjL> !english
[18:21] <FloodBot3> Guest33607: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:21] <LjL> !arabic
[18:22] <kerneloops_> Guest33607: /join #ubuntu-arabic
[18:22] <Guest33607> انا هكر بالباك تراك
[18:22] <kerneloops_> lol
[18:22] <kerneloops_> google translator ftw
[18:22] <gabeodess> genii-around: I'm on a server... I have to do everything from the command line.
[18:22] <nishant> anyone how to install etoile for ubuntu ?
[18:22] <kerneloops_> client quit
[18:22] <digirak> my power management isnt working right, i have set the options to suspend when i close the lid, it mostly does that, but sometimes it doesnt suspend and gets hung up
[18:22] <erUSUL> !sa
[18:22] <edbian> prower, Did you find what files it installed?
[18:23] <genii-around> gabeodess: In that case: sudo nane /etc/apt/sources.list   then use the ctrl + \  for the "find and replace" put in for find: us.archive   put in for replace with: old-releases
[18:23] <naptastic> gabeodess, nano
[18:23] <naptastic> gabeodess, s/nane/nano
[18:23] <genii-around> gabeodess: sudo nano   and not sudo nane as I just made a typo :)
[18:23] <naptastic> genii-around, :-)
[18:23] <StepNjump> Eh guys, if anyone here runs a netbook, /join #ubuntu-netbooks
[18:23] <digirak> any idea what I could do?
[18:23] <genii-around> naptastic: Thanks
[18:23] <marekw2143> hi, is it possible to upgrade to newest ubuntu from 8.10 without reinstalling whole system?
[18:23] <gabeodess> genii-around:  okay, so I should actually use "old-releases" literally?
[18:23] <kerneloops_> !info winbind
[18:24] <kerneloops_> can i disable it?
[18:24] <ruan> !upgrade | marekw2143
[18:24] <AJ__>  i386 is any intel no?
[18:24] <genii-around> gabeodess: Yes. Intrepid's repositories were archived there when it went past end-of-life
[18:24] <naptastic> digirak, suspend doesn't really work very well.
[18:24] <kerneloops_> AJ__: it's 32bit
[18:24] <marekw2143> ruan: thanks
[18:24] <gabeodess> genii-around: awesome, thanks.
[18:24] <digirak> napalmx: really? what do i do?
[18:24] <naptastic> AJ__, you can run i386 on any intel. If you have a 64-bit computer, 64-bit is better, but i386 will work.
[18:24] <prower> edbian: yes, i did...and something else odd :> i'm using kubuntu so i tried its package manager first, and the installation of flashplugin failed (i'm still trying to figure out why)...through synaptic it worked perfectly
[18:24] <ruan> kerneloops_: if you dont have a windows server
[18:24] <kerneloops_> !better | naptastic
[18:24] <ruan> kerneloops_: or network
[18:24] <digirak> I think this is a issue with my power management
[18:25] <digirak> because I have NEVER had problems with susepend otherwise
[18:25] <kerneloops_> 64bit is not "better" than 32 it dependes what you do
[18:25] <edbian> prower, very strange!  Are you online?  The flashplugin downloads a file from the Internet (obviously the package manager is online).  You should just 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree' to that you can see errors.
[18:25] <kerneloops_> depends*
[18:25] <AJ__> Perhaps
[18:25] <KB1JWQ> kerneloops_: I'd be hard pressed to argue that 64 bit isn't the way of the future though. :-)
[18:25] <pedza> hey
[18:25] <LLStarks> is there any way to force ureadahead to reprofile. there are no pack files to delete.
[18:25] <AJ__> Is it worth using 10.10 ot z
[18:26] <pedza> i have a question about unity
[18:26] <Guest95492> I just installed the new netbook remix and I remmeber it being semi easy to change back to the default look but not I can't find the setings for the life of me.  How do i change from the netbook remix look to the "old" deskgtop look?
[18:26] <AJ__> 10.4 lts
[18:26] <prower> edbian: Oh yes, I'm online...I turned on details so that i could see what was happening in the console :> it downloaded the file, installed it in the right place and bang, done...in kpackagemanager it seems to have failed on the download stage
[18:26] <pedza> HOW CAN I MAKE MY TOP PANEL TRANSPARENT in unity??? :)
[18:26] <[TK]D-Fender> KB1JWQ: I can argue that EASY.  64bit is the way of the NOW :p  128bit+ baby!
[18:26] <kerneloops_> !caps | pedza
[18:26] <pedza> ive seen it on screenshots
[18:26] <pedza> excuse me :)
[18:26] <AJ__> Lol
[18:26] <prower> edbian: i'll pick at it for a while and file a bug if i can figure it out, in the meantime thanks very much for the help :>
[18:26] <kerneloops_> pedza: try to right click it .. and edit it?
[18:26] <edbian> prower, So do you know have a /usr/lib/browser-plugins/libflashplayer.so  ?
[18:26] <edbian> prower, does flash work now?
[18:27] <pedza> in natty
[18:27] <pedza> you cant right click it
[18:27] <ruan> natty isnt supported here
[18:27] <pedza> oh
[18:27] <pedza> :p
[18:27] <ruan> !natty
[18:27] <pedza> where is it supported then
[18:27] <prower> edbian: Yep, just tested it out on Youtube to make sure, and checked in about:plugins...after using synaptic everything magically appeared where it should have :>
[18:27]  * prower is confused but happy?
[18:27] <pedza> im most grateful :p
[18:27] <kerneloops_> lol
[18:28] <kerneloops_> Anyone care to explain "Samba nameservice integration server" ?
[18:28] <digirak> can somone help with the power management
[18:28] <kerneloops_> I need to know if I can disable winbind service at boot
[18:28] <edbian> prower, The wonderful wonderfulness of a good package manager :)
[18:28] <erUSUL> kerneloops_: the samba nameserver for cifs/smb (  winbind )
[18:29] <Kimmy> kerneloops_: if you dont share folders with windows computers it's safe to remove winbind
[18:29] <prower> edbian, yeah, i think i'll stick with synaptic from now on just to be safe :> kpackagemanager isn't the best to begin with
[18:29] <Kimmy> "safe"
[18:29] <edbian> prower, haha,  :)
[18:30] <kerneloops_> Kimmy: ok ill do it
[18:30] <StepNjump> My computer keeps going back to prompt me for my password after 30 seconds...  any ideas?
[18:30] <kerneloops_> StepNjump: screen lock?
[18:30] <ddurham_> I have an issue installing flash player: sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree   will error with 404, can't find this file: http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_10.2.152.27.orig.tar.gz
[18:30] <kerneloops_> StepNjump: or sudo command?
[18:31] <ddurham_> I check the directory, and the file isn't there
[18:31] <bkhuraijam> installer crashing while installing ubuntu 10.10 (64bit) from live usb
[18:31] <ddurham_> looks like a new one is there: http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_10.2.153.1.orig.tar.gz
[18:31] <ddurham_> how can I make the install work now?
[18:31] <genii-around> ddurham_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[18:32] <ddurham_> thanks
[18:32] <StepNjump> kerneoops_ yes my computer keeps going back to the screen lock when activity > 30 seconds..
[18:32] <kerneloops_> StepNjump: system > preferences > screensaver
[18:33] <ruan> StepNjump: you can edit that with system>preferences>screensaver
[18:33] <kerneloops_> chang time
[18:33] <bkhuraijam> how to make live usb of ubuntu 10.10 (64bit)?
[18:33] <ddurham_> weird though, the plugin still doesn't show up under "about:plugins"
[18:33] <ruan> !usb | bkhuraijam
[18:33] <StepNjump> Nope... I tried so many times!
[18:33] <kerneloops_> bkhuraijam: system > admin > startup disk creator
[18:33] <StepNjump> Nothing works kerneloops_
[18:33] <edbian> ddurham_, restart firefox.
[18:33] <StepNjump> I even did the gnome-config or something like that
[18:33] <kerneloops_> StepNjump: weird..
[18:33] <StepNjump> Yep!
[18:33] <StepNjump> I'm a notebook
[18:34] <ruan> a talking notebook?
[18:34] <kerneloops_> hm maybe it's power saving options
[18:34] <StepNjump> I'm ON a netbook kerneloops_
[18:34] <StepNjump> I tried that too
[18:34] <ddurham_> ok, had to do this again: sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-installer flashplugin-installer
[18:34] <bkhuraijam> is startup disk creater there in ubuntu 8.04?
[18:34] <kerneloops_> bkhuraijam: no i guess.
[18:34] <edbian> ddurham_, Does it work now?
[18:34] <ddurham_> yes
[18:34] <bkhuraijam> so how do go about now?
[18:35] <ddurham_> edbian: I had to remove flashplugin-installer
[18:35] <pisandelli> tets
[18:35] <pisandelli> test
[18:35] <kerneloops_> bkhuraijam: install usb-creator-gtk
[18:35] <edbian> ddurham_, Good job fixing it :)
[18:35] <kerneloops_> bkhuraijam: try sudo apt-get install usb-creator-gtk
[18:35] <ddurham_> thanks
[18:35] <bkhuraijam> kerneloops: thanks..let me try
[18:35] <nishant> how do I use a new window manager that i Installed
[18:36] <kerneloops_> nishant: in login window you select it i think
[18:36] <nishant> ok will check it then , window managers are not desktop enviroments right
[18:36] <kerneloops_> what's the difference between samba-common and just samba?
[18:37] <ruan> !info samba
[18:37] <ruan> !info samba-common
[18:37] <kerneloops_> ok it's server
[18:37] <mark76> Does anyone know why grub always throws up an error when you reboot after deleting a partition?
[18:38] <kerneloops_> mark76: because you should update grub
[18:38] <kerneloops_> ?
[18:38] <zvacet> kerneloops_ : see http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=samba-common&searchon=names&suite=maverick&section=all
[18:38] <ruan> mark76: update grub or fstab has something that's been deleted
[18:38] <kerneloops_> mark76: sudo update-grub
[18:38] <mark76> Where do I update grub?
[18:38] <kerneloops_> terminal window
[18:38] <ruan> mark76: ctrl alt t; sudo update-grub
[18:38] <mark76> I'm in a live cD
[18:39] <mark76> Will it work in here?
[18:39] <kerneloops_> mark76: applications > accessories terminal
[18:39] <kerneloops_> no mark76 because when you then restart..
[18:39] <kerneloops_> mark76: or do you want to fix grub?
[18:39] <elyob> Heyyaah. Was wondering if anyone here has had this issue. I installed xubuntu-desktop from my packagemanager (10.10, fresh-ish install) could switch to my xfce session. Suddenly mid session  (was editing some random settings) I get kicked to logon screen... Gnome loads fine, but loading xubuntu shoes my loading screen, a flash of terminal and then back to logon screen
[18:39] <elyob> What did I break... Hahaha
[18:39] <zvacet> !~grub2 | mark76
[18:39] <mark76> I want my other partitions to mount when I start the computer
[18:40] <zvacet> mark76 : see second link
[18:40] <ruan> hmm. i've heard of sudden logout bugs
[18:40] <zvacet> mark76 : and reinstall grub from live cd
[18:40] <genii-around> mark76: If you are deleting partitions on the hard drive from the livecd, this might explain why grub complains when you try to boot.Maybe you deleted the system partition it defaults to
[18:41] <mark76> Probably
[18:41] <ruan> its not really possible to delete system partition while its mounted
[18:41] <genii-around> ruan: If he's on a livecd it's fairly possible it's not mounted
[18:41] <mark76> So I need to reboot, go into the terminal and update grub?
[18:41] <Jonny_red> hihi everyone, id like to know if ubuntu needs some drivers/workarounds to enable turbo boost on a supported processor?
[18:41] <Jonny_red> leave the "?"
[18:41] <ruan> yeah but partitioning can be done within ubuntu
[18:42] <mark76> Okay. I'll try that
[18:42] <mark76> BBL
[18:43] <Jonny_red> noone knows?
[18:43] <erUSUL> Jonny_red: no; it should just work
[18:44] <Jonny_red> erUSUL: should with what percentage? above 90? its an arrandale processor i5-480m
[18:44] <LLStarks> is there any way to force ureadahead to reprofile. there are no pack files to delete.
[18:45] <erUSUL> Jonny_red: turbo bost is managed by firmware bios mostly. support in the OS is minimal
[18:45] <Jonny_red> erUSUL: that means i shouldnt care at all aslong as it used to work with windows?
[18:46] <erUSUL> Jonny_red: yes
[18:46] <Jonny_red> erUSUL: thank you good sir, made my day
[18:46] <erUSUL> Jonny_red: no problem
[18:46] <faryshta> Hi. Which is the command to open vim while connected to an ftp shell?
[18:47] <Xion> can i change the vertion of libpurple ?
[18:47] <Xion> the old one work better with pidgin facebook plugin
[18:47] <Xion> it wont dysplay de contact list
[18:48] <rribeiro> Hi folks!
[18:48] <xangua> Xion you can use facebook chat with no plugins, via jabber
[18:48] <milamber> faryshta: http://www.perturb.org/display/Vim_and_FTP.html
[18:48] <mark76> I can't boot into a terminal. All I get is a grub rescur prompt
[18:48] <rribeiro> I wanna know if ubuntu supports machines with several processors
[18:48] <mark76> rescue
[18:48] <Xion> xangua:) is that hard to configure ?
[18:48] <ikonia> rribeiro: sure does
[18:48] <Xion> is there a how to i can see ?
[18:49] <faryshta> milamber, thanks.
[18:49] <rribeiro> It's there a cluster based ubuntu distro?
[18:49] <xangua> Xion just create a new 'facebook' account from the account manager
[18:49] <rribeiro> or a ubuntu based cluster?
[18:49] <faryshta> milamber, worked.
[18:49] <ikonia> rribeiro: there is not an ubuntu based cluster distro that is official, there are many cluster options for ubuntu servers
[18:49] <thekkid> does anyone know how to start a desktop session from ssh
[18:49] <milamber> faryshta: np
[18:50] <ikonia> thekkid: startx
[18:51] <thekkid> ikonia: thanks
[18:52] <kaspar> how can i get permission to write or build in usr/local?
[18:52] <rribeiro> ikonia: Did you recommend some distro?
[18:53] <erUSUL> kaspar: you do not build in /usr/local/ build in your home. then run the "make install" with sudo ( or use checkinstall )
[18:54] <ikonia> rribeiro: no
[18:54] <netzapper> is there a way to get a list of the packages updated by the last update you ran?
[18:54] <rribeiro> ikonia, thanks for the help!
[18:54] <erUSUL> netzapper: Synaptic has a history log in the File manu
[18:54] <netzapper> erUSUL: thanks.
[18:55] <erUSUL> menu even
[18:55] <matt__> When is 11.04 being released?
[18:56] <mark76> I don't know what I'm doing :(
[18:56] <mark76> Some one talk me through it
[18:56] <netzapper> well... that's not the problem. For some reason, this program I'm working on went from working fine, to deadlocking on a library call (it's not even multi-threaded). And none of the code I changed is executed anywhere close to where this is happening.
[18:57] <Starminn> !natty | matt__
[18:57] <ikonia> mark76: 04/2011
[18:57] <mark76> How do I add partitions to fstab?
[18:58] <erUSUL> !fstab
[18:58] <ikonia> mark76: use one of the existing entries as an example
[18:58] <Onepamopa> hi folks, anyone can tell me how to exclude mysql* from updating ?
[18:59] <Onepamopa> cause I need to install few things, and the server is live at the moment
[18:59] <Onepamopa> updating sql will cause the server to stop and start, and I want to avoid that
[18:59] <mark76> Is this what it should look like? /dev/sda5 swap swap defaults 0 0
[18:59] <genii-around> rribeiro: You might want to look at http://svn.oscar.openclustergroup.org/trac/oscar/wiki/repoTesting  but instead of debian-4 in the repo instructions, put debian-5-i386 or debian5-x86_64
[18:59] <poent> Hello ubuntu chat. I'm getting an error while trying to install software updates from the update manager that says "The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.". And then kills the update process. how do i get around this?
[19:00] <Onepamopa> poent sudo apt-get install package
[19:00] <Onepamopa> and when it tells u
[19:00] <erUSUL> mark76: for swap it looks like this « UUID=bfb5c55a-d03d-4b6c-acb3-25fc417eb24f none swap sw 0 0 »
[19:00] <Onepamopa> u just say Y
[19:00] <Onepamopa> :)
[19:00] <FloodBot3> Onepamopa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:00] <mark76> It's a primary partition
[19:00] <mark76> I'm going to have to reinstall
[19:00] <poent> Onepamopa, i'm trying to run a lot of updates from the update manager rather than just one
[19:00] <Xion> xangua:) cual es el domain de facebook ?
[19:01] <poent> 294 updates to be exact
[19:01] <xangua> ¿¿
[19:02] <Xion> xangua:) what is the facebook domain ?
[19:02] <xangua> .com ¿¿
[19:02] <xangua> http://www.facebook.com/sitetour/chat.php
[19:03] <erUSUL> !gpgerr | poent
[19:03] <xangua> Xion see above
[19:06] <grendal_prime> anyone have to nfs mount shares on a netapp filer?
[19:06] <grendal_prime> from ubuntu10.04?
[19:07] <ninjai_> how can i get the  hostname of a linux box in my lan?
[19:07] <_antant> will ssh'ing in as the user I'm logged in as log me out?
[19:07] <bastidrazor> _antant: no
[19:08] <_antant> excellent, cheers
[19:08] <JonasF> Hi, is there a reason why user hobbit in package hobbit-client has no access to /var/log/messages (user is not added to group adm)? The standard "msgs" monitoring test is not working by default due to permission problems.
[19:09] <poent> erUSUL, could you link the GPG bot message again for em
[19:09] <poent> me*
[19:09] <erUSUL> ninjai_: do you have a nameserver running?
[19:09] <erUSUL> !gpgerr > poent
[19:09] <poent> thank you
[19:09] <erUSUL> poent: you can do « /msg ubottu gpgerr » yourself ;)
[19:10] <kerneloops_> What is the name of program to check boot time and processes?
[19:10] <kerneloops_> cannot remember
[19:10] <erUSUL> bootchart?
[19:10] <kerneloops_> yea :)
[19:10] <erUSUL> ninjai_: try « avahi-browse --all »
[19:10] <ninjai_> thanks
[19:11] <ninjai_> erUSUL omg thank, it is exactly what I was looking for!
[19:11] <erUSUL> no problem
[19:12] <connex> Hi, I have problems with cpu frequency changing after resuming from hibernation.
[19:12] <ninjai_> erUSUL it doesn't show me or appear to have an option for IP addresses though.
[19:13] <erUSUL> ninjai_: try « avahi-browse --all --resolve »
[19:14] <erUSUL> ninjai_: but if you know the name you do not need the ip
[19:15] <ninjai_> erUSUL i can't resolve DNS :(
[19:15] <erUSUL> ninjai_: ping hostnameyoujustfoundout.local
[19:15] <ninjai_> oh thanks :)
[19:16] <ninjai_> thats exactly what i needed
[19:16] <erUSUL> ninjai_: zeroconf dns service has local "domain"
[19:16] <ninjai_> erUSUL: in all the years I've been using linux I had no idea... this will make life so much easier lol
[19:16] <erUSUL> XD
[19:16] <MnCC> how accurate is lsusb with devices descriptions ?
[19:16] <erUSUL> ninjai_: well avahi/zeroconf is not that old ...
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Mncc: very
[19:17] <MnCC> then i found a bug
[19:17] <ninjai_> erUSUL: thanks for letting me know about it though :D
[19:17] <erUSUL> MnCC: sudo update-usbids
[19:17] <MnCC> hold on
[19:17] <guampa> does 10.04 have usb_modeswitch by default?
[19:18] <aar> Hi, as a novice user am I OK installing the 64 bit version of Ubuntu, or will I bump into all sorts of 32 bit / 64 bit incompatibilities when installing 3rd party software?
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> Mncc: well, depends what the device reports as far as I know. It can only report what it finds
[19:19] <erUSUL> aar: not really.
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> Aar: some only support 32bit but ia32-libs helps deal with stuff
[19:19] <MnCC> ActionParsnip: well let me rephrase that, i found some inconsistencies =)
[19:20] <anshrpr> Hi, i've recently installed Ubuntu 10.10 on my laptop with 3GiB memory but acc. to system monitor only 861.2MiB is available. Help
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Mncc: log a bug if you suspect one :-)
[19:20] <aar> ActionParsnip, what does ia32-libs do?
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> anshrpr: www.linuxatemyram.com
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Aar: allows 32bit things to run under 64bit
[19:21] <anshrpr> ActionParsnip: thanks
[19:22] <poent> what are the stock repo's for ubuntu 10.10?
[19:22] <MnCC> ActionParsnip: its inconsistent allright
[19:22] <MnCC> Vendor Id isnt correct
[19:22] <aar> ActionParsnip, thanks
[19:23] <gibran> hi does anyone know why my desktop screen has this horizontal lines? its this super small horizontal lines, it has no color in any sense but you really notice it
[19:23] <poent> you probably have a failing GPU
[19:23] <Jemt> Hello. The ubuntu user on the Ubuntu Live CD (remastered) does not honor settings in /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.upower.policy (I disabled Suspend and Hibernation). However, it works for new users created on the Live CD. How can I solve the problem for the default ubuntu user ?
[19:23] <MnCC> whats the package of lsusb ?
[19:24] <erUSUL> !find lsusb
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> Mncc: lsusb i believe
[19:24] <Xintruder> Hey guys, anyone familiar with bubuntu?
[19:24] <erUSUL> MnCC: usbutils
[19:24] <Xintruder> some ubuntu dist with lots of pen-testing tools?
[19:24] <poent> !find  usbmuxd
[19:24] <MnCC> ActionParsnip, Package lsusb does not exist
[19:24] <MnCC> erUSUL, tnx
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> Mncc: usbutils :-)
[19:25] <MnCC> thats the fourth bug this week, im on a role =)
[19:26] <poent> !find ipheth-utils
[19:26] <MnCC> pity i cant solve them :(
[19:26] <The-Kernel> I'm wrote this shell script to check if the default gw is there, and if not to add it, do you think this will work? http://pastebin.com/vcPCB9uC
[19:26] <kerneloops_> gw?
[19:27] <The-Kernel> gateway
[19:27] <tasslehoff> when I open a movie in mplayer I would very much like it to appear in the middle of the screen. compizconfig-settings-manager or something simpler?
[19:27] <kerneloops_> tasslehoff: you want to focus the window in the center of screen right
[19:28] <kerneloops_> i'd like to know that
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> Xintruder: seems to be based on jaunty which is eol. It's also not an official canonical release so is offtopic here.
[19:28] <guampa> anyone knows if its possible to use a 3g usb modem *without* usb_modeswith ? assisting a remote, offline user
[19:29] <guampa> in karmic and with a sony md300 i knew it was done
[19:29] <tasslehoff> kerneloops_: place, really, thought it will get focus as well
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> guampa: if it shows as a storage with the windows driver only then it will need switching
[19:31] <guampa> the computer has only ubuntu 10.04, it shows up in lsusb, detected as storage
[19:31] <guampa> i recall with the md300 there was some sysfs that could be used
[19:32] <poent> So I have updated the standard key but it looks like there are updates related to my mobile phone modem driver that are causing the problem with untrusted sources. I don't have any non-stock repositories either, so how can i find what GPG key i need to update for each specific update?
[19:32] <ali12345> guampa: often you can make them work by ejecting the storage device
[19:32] <ali12345> ie eject -s
[19:32] <guampa> ali12345: appreciate, will try that
[19:33] <shamster_> hey folks, I'm attempting to watch the output of several log files at once using 'tail -f'. Is there a method or utility that would give me the same output to stdout, but split the output into multiple columns (1 for each file)?
[19:33] <kerneloops_> oh no
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> shamster_: you could use watch in multiple terminals or write a simple script to write the last n li
[19:35] <Pici> shamster_: multitail perhaps?
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> *lines to a file and then cat the file
[19:36] <hiromi> Hey does someone know how to make broadcom wireless drivers work in 11.04 Alpha?
[19:36] <Pici> hiromi: 11.04 support is in #ubuntu+1
[19:36] <shamster_> ActionParsnip: I'm trying to avoid multiple terminals :)
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> !11.04
[19:36] <hiromi> okay thanks
[19:36] <shamster_> Pici: I'll check that out. '...tail on steroids'.. :)
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> shamster_: multitail as pici says or a simple script will do it in one
[19:37] <shamster_> ActionParsnip: cool! thanks
[19:38] <philsf> hi, pidgin is not using notification-osd to display incoming messages. I don't think it's a pidgin configuration issue, because I share the ~/.purple dir with configs and logs with another computer, and notifications work there. How can I find out if the notification is running here? This is a Ubuntu 10.10 box
[19:39] <xangua> philsf: check you have pidgin-libnotify installed and enabled in pidgin plugins section
[19:39] <MnCC> ActionParsnip: i found the problem =)
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> Philsf: ensure the notify plugin is enabled. Just to double check. Could even disable then re-enable it
[19:40] <philsf> xangua, it is, I didn't change any config, and the same config works in another box. I just tried "notify send <string>" and it also doesn't produce a notification
[19:41] <philsf> it seems to be something with libnotify itself, but not sure where exactly. How can I find out if the daemon is running? Logging out didn't fix it
[19:42] <kamran>  i am having difficulty getting prints using HP P1102 (i am using kubuntu 9.10)
[19:43] <jjp_> kamran: u use cups ?
[19:44] <timhj> i have two digital certificates with the names BuiltinObjectToken-RSASecurity2048v3.crt and RSAPublicRootCAv1.crt respectively
[19:44] <timhj> i have to install them in ubuntu 10.10
[19:44] <timhj> how to go about doing that ?
[19:45] <jjp_> timhj: it depends on application; system certs are installed in /etc/ssl/certs, I think
[19:45] <timhj> jjp_ : so should i just copy them to /etc/ssl/certs ?
[19:45] <jjp_> timhj: what r these certs for ?
[19:45] <timhj> jjp_ : they are for accessing a https website
[19:46] <jjp_> timhj: well then may be you should only add them through ur browser interface
[19:47] <timhj> jjp_ : ok thanks ill try that
[19:49] <milind> i cannot scp to my remote account
[19:49] <milind> what could be the problem?
[19:49] <jjp_> milind: what's the error msg ? Connexion refused ?
[19:50] <jhattara> is there a GUI SFTP client for Ubuntu that would have a built in SSH-tunnel options ?
[19:50] <ve2ebp> !gnome-config
[19:50] <milind> jjp [Errno 13] Permission denied
[19:50] <milind> i can ssh into it but i cannot scp into it
[19:51] <jjp_> milind: try to scp to /tmp on the remote server. My guess is that's file permissions related
[19:51] <[TK]D-Fender> jhattara: I believe FileZilla supports all of that
[19:52] <milind> jjp yes that worked
[19:52] <milind> but why cant i scp to anywhere else?
[19:52] <jjp_> milind: because you lack authorization to write elsewhere
[19:53] <jjp_> milind: with ssh, tweak necessary permissions on destination dir
[19:55] <mister_m> I'm trying to figure out how to get my flash to work. I am on  2.6.32-30-generic, x86_64, I have flashplugin-installer installed, but I still can't watch anything on youtube
[19:55] <SITZ> can anyone tell me how to install sun jdk in ubuntu ?
[19:56] <Apollonovich> Is there a reason why in the default generic kernel config, PATA is handled with drivers marked "experimental", and the older ATA/IDE drivers are disabled?
[19:56] <SITZ> i am really having trouble with this installation :(
[19:56] <ThinkT510> !jdk | SITZ
[19:56] <ThinkT510> !java | SITZ
[19:56] <philsf> hi, pidgin is not using notification-osd to display incoming messages. I don't think it's a pidgin configuration issue, because I share the ~/.purple dir with configs and logs with another computer, and notifications work there. How can I find out if the notification is running here? This is a Ubuntu 10.10 box. I just tried "notify send <string>" and it also doesn't produce a notification. it seems to be something with libnotify itself, but not sure w
[19:56] <philsf> here exactly. How can I find out if the daemon is running? Logging out didn't fix it
[19:57] <anshrpr> Installed Ubuntu 10.10 on my laptop having 3 GB of RAM installed and System Monitor showing only 861.8 of total memory..... where is rest of my RAM???
[19:58] <ThinkT510> anshrpr: can you show a screenshot please?
[19:59] <gurkkee> hi
[19:59] <anshrpr> ThinkT510: is there any site where i cud upload that snapshot
[19:59] <gurkkee> i am not sure which operating system i shoulo usw
[19:59] <gurkkee> use
[19:59] <ThinkT510> !pastebin
[19:59] <jt76> Hi, Just upgraded to FF4 stable though PPA but I cant seem to play DIVX videos anyone (was playing them though Mplayer before). Anyone have any ideas on this?
[20:04] <jhattara> [TK]D-Fender, can't find any tunneling options from FileZilla
[20:04] <ThinkT510> !screenshots | anshrpr
[20:05] <Rods_Tiger> I did an update/updgrade this morning, which upgraded the kernel items too, and now that computer has disappeared off the home network - no samba, no ssh (which means I can't log in and do anything with it), no minidlna, no evidence that it is even connected to the homehub.
[20:06] <GeekShadow> yo!
[20:06] <Rods_Tiger> did something unusual occur with this recent set of updates?
[20:06] <anshrpr> ThinkT510: http://imagebin.org/144578
[20:07] <nimbiotics> Hello all. I'm trying to burn a 7Gb iso image file to DL DVD using brasero, but I got en 'unknown error' message. The brasero session log file is at (http://paste.ubuntu.com/584469/). Should I used some other software? TIA!
[20:08] <Daskreech> Hello I'm looking to find some software to tell me that health of my hard drive
[20:08] <j_dalmond> guys, when will Firefox 4 be available for update?
[20:08] <copa> hi everyone
[20:08] <geekbri> who knows, but there is a FF4 PPA available i believe.
[20:09] <Aedolon> ifconfig shows eth0 but the device does not exist in /dev! But I do have a network connection. Uh?
[20:09] <SwedeMike> j_dalmond: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/firefox-4-ppa-for-ubuntu-10-04-and-10-10-users/
[20:09] <ThinkT510> anshrpr: what is the output of: cat /proc/meminfo
[20:09] <Rods_Tiger> oh well, must be something unrelated to ubuntu.
[20:10] <joi_> hello
[20:10] <Daskreech> Occansionally when I start the computer I get DRDY errors
[20:10] <j_dalmond> geekbri, right, but i'm afraid it's gonna istall 4 as minefield and not remove 3.5
[20:10] <ThinkT510> anshrpr: particularly memtotal
[20:10] <geekbri> j_dalmond: then i guess you have to wait :(
[20:10] <Daskreech> can I check to see how well the hard drive is doing?
[20:10] <joi_> nice to meet you
[20:10] <joi_> !
[20:10] <j_dalmond> SwedeMike, thx a lot -)
[20:10] <Xion> is there a way to configure empathy to not log everything i chat
[20:10] <joi_> :)
[20:10] <copa> hi joi
[20:11] <Fleck> !firefox4 | Fleck
[20:11] <anshrpr> ThinkT510: http://pastebin.com/8TfQ5DQ0
[20:11] <joi_> hello copa
[20:11] <j_dalmond> geekbri, looks like that, i just was curious how long )))
[20:11] <Daskreech> Xion:  Did you look in the prefernces?
[20:11] <joi_> copa?
[20:12] <jhattara> are there any GUI SFTP or SCP clients for Ubuntu that could create their own SSH tunnels ?
[20:12] <joi_> how are you
[20:12] <joi_> copa
[20:12] <copa> fine joi
[20:12] <Xion> Daskreech:) yes i did,and there is no configuration for that
[20:13] <Daskreech> Xion: It's on the very first page of the preferences
[20:13] <joi_> ok good to know copa
[20:13] <ThinkT510> anshrpr: hmm, it appears that the total displayed in the system monitor matches that from /proc/meminfo, is ubuntu installed in a vm?
[20:14] <joi_> this is fun
[20:14] <copa> joi switch to side window
[20:14] <joi_> ok
[20:14] <anshrpr> ThinkT510: no, as an OS
[20:14] <copa> can you chat privately with me
[20:14] <copa> joi_
[20:15] <ThinkT510> anshrpr: do you have any other os's on there, and if so do they report the full 3gb?
[20:15] <Xion> Daskreech:) are you talking about the same program i talk about ?? Empathy ,,,  i am on the preferences buddy and not a single one is for loggin
[20:15] <jjp_> TT510: what's 3gb stuff ?
[20:16] <ThinkT510> jjp_: 3 Gigs of ram
[20:16] <Xion> Daskreech:) i see,General,Notifications,Sounds,Spell checking,Themes  thats it for empathy
[20:16] <Daskreech> What is under general?
[20:16] <anshrpr> ThinkT510:  i had windows 7 installed and i was able to use whole 3 GB of RAM
[20:17] <ThinkT510> anshrpr: hmm, that is unusual
[20:17] <Xion> Daskreech:) show smileys as images,show contact list in rooms,open new chat in separate windows,automatic connect on starup
[20:18] <Daskreech> Xion: I have Log conversations right under Automatic connect on startup
[20:18] <jjp_> anshpr: does dmidecode tell u about you ram sticks ?
[20:19] <Xion> Daskreech:) i dont,,u want a screenshot ?
[20:19] <anshrpr> ThinkT510: i have  1GB RAM installed on slot 1 and 2 GB on slot 2, can i interchange their position
[20:19] <mark76> Why can I watch IPlayer but not this? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10317943
[20:19] <Daskreech> Xion: no I beleive you. What version are you running?
[20:19] <Pumpkin-> How can I get an NVidia 8600 GT card (non-free drivers installed) to output in X (and ideally in textmode also) to a display connected to the HDMI port (instead of the VGA port which it is currently doing). I don't want dual displays, just DVI output.
[20:19] <anshrpr> jjp_: can use dmidecode - access denied
[20:20] <jjp_> sudo dmidecode
[20:20] <ThinkT510> anshrpr: sudo dmidecode
[20:21] <Jordan_U> mark76: It's working here with Ubuntu 10.10 64 bit and chrome.
[20:21] <Xion> Daskreech:) 2.30.3 it says on sypnatic
[20:21] <Xion> is there a update
[20:21] <mark76> But why isn't it working for me jordan?
[20:21] <Daskreech> I have 2.32.0
[20:21] <Daskreech> Xion: I guess there is :)
[20:21] <kerneloops_> Is is possible to edit this menu? http://i55.tinypic.com/30dfi3m.png
[20:21] <anshrpr> ThinkT510: terminal is not taking my password
[20:21] <copa> ThinkT510 can you install any repo without sudo ??
[20:21] <mark76> They're both flash. So why does one work and not the other?
[20:22] <ThinkT510> anshrpr: you sure you typed it right? no caps lock or shift?
[20:23] <copa> why he needs that Thinktwice??
[20:23] <copa> LOL
[20:23] <mickster04> mark76: iplyyer does not use flash
[20:23] <mickster04> iplayer*
[20:23] <joi_> helllo
[20:23] <mickster04> mark76: iplayer uses silverlight from what i last heard?
[20:23] <cfs_> Does anybody know how to change the background image on the login screen in Xubuntu?
[20:24] <anshrpr> ThinkT510: i mean the i' not able to type password on it, it is not diplayin the dots when i enter my password, it is like a blank line
[20:24] <ThinkT510> copa: only admins are allowed to add/edit/remove repos, thus you need to use sudo
[20:24] <lasha> hey guys I have an emergency
[20:24] <mickster04> !gdm
[20:24] <ThinkT510> anshrpr: thats normal
[20:24] <ThinkT510> anshrpr: just type your password and press enter
[20:25] <lasha> I am on ubuntu right now and I need to install xp on usb at all costs to make dual boot, I just don't know any software that would burn xp on bootable usb
[20:25] <mark76> Silverlight in Linux?
[20:25] <ThinkT510> !silverlight | mark76
[20:25] <ohzie> lasha: you can put a windows xp installer on a USB cd key with unetbootin
[20:25] <anshrpr> ThinkT510: nothing is happening, it is still asking for password, i think i should restalt the system
[20:26] <lasha> ohzie: where do i find unetbootin ?
[20:26] <xangua> ohzie lasha no you can't
[20:26] <ohzie> xangua: It claims you can on the unetbootin site
[20:26] <lasha> xangua: is it even possible ?
[20:26] <ohzie> xangua: are its claims deceitful? :(
[20:26] <mark76> Okay. I'm installing Moonlight for Mozilla
[20:26] <joi_> hi
[20:26] <xangua> UNetbootin allows you to create bootable Live USB drives for Ubuntu, Fedora, and other Linux distributions ohzie lasha
[20:26] <xangua> doesn't say that
[20:27] <kerneloops_> yes
[20:27] <xangua> mark76:  keep in mind that moonlight doesn't supports all silverlight features
[20:27] <joi_> hello??
[20:27] <Daskreech> xangua: Not working for me :(
[20:27] <lasha> xangua thank you so you don't know of an alternative way ?
[20:27] <ohzie> xangua: Oh, misread.
[20:27] <meera> since two days the fan of my pc is working without a break, before was it not so. why could that be?
[20:27] <cfs_> I tried gdmsetup, but I'm not seeing an option to change the background image. Is there a way I could do it from the command line like an xml file?
[20:27] <xangua> lasha ohzie i do not, and is not an ubuntu issue
[20:27] <joi_> what are you guys talking about??
[20:28] <copa> meera what is the prob
[20:28] <copa> the fan is not working properly
[20:28] <mark76> What codec does BBC streaming video use?
[20:28] <lasha> xangua ye sorry I just deleted my virtual xp cause it was slow so i need dual boot instead :\
[20:28] <copa> well some overheat??
[20:28] <milind> where is wgetrc located in ubuntu?
[20:28] <meera> fan runns without a break
[20:28] <mark76> Not IPlayer. The ones on the news and sports pages
[20:29] <blag> ping
[20:29] <sm_> hello... so i have a problem when i set the 'Visual effects' ON, my shift key stops working i.e i cant write big letters and stuff
[20:29] <nimbiotics> Hello all. I'm trying to burn a 7Gb iso image file to DL DVD using brasero, but I got en 'unknown error' message. The brasero session log file is at (http://paste.ubuntu.com/584469/). Should I used some other software? TIA!
[20:29] <sm_> when i have all the visual efects turned off... its working
[20:29] <sm_> i've searched around the net and it seems like a known problem
[20:29] <sm_> that i prolly has to do something with the drivers
[20:30] <sm_> but i dont know...
[20:32] <fumanchu182> quick general question ls -al would list file size in bytes, correct?
[20:32] <blahsphemer> how do I install vim-python on Ubuntu 9.04
[20:32] <wild> how do I move a folder from downloads to the opt folder?
[20:33] <ThinkT510> !9.04 | blahsphemer
[20:33] <sm_> fumanchu182,  yes
[20:33] <fumanchu182> sm_, that's what i thought thanks.
[20:33] <unop> wild,  sudo mv ~/downloads/your_dir/  /opt/
[20:33] <sm_> fumanchu182, anytime ;]
[20:33] <blahsphemer> ThinkT510, I have no choice but to use 9.04
[20:33] <wild> thanks unop
[20:34] <anshrpr> ThinkT510: what was that command i forgot...
[20:34] <jjp_> anshrpr: which was the command purpose ?
[20:34] <ThinkT510> anshrpr: sudo dmidecode
[20:34] <jjp_> Ah yes, I remember that
[20:35] <anshrpr> jjp_: thanks anyways
[20:36] <gori> how can i change my ip on linux?
[20:36] <anshrpr> ThinkT510: http://pastebin.com/8GWGsgpv
[20:37] <gori> anyobe?
[20:37] <gori> one
[20:38] <ThinkT510> anshrpr: sorry, i'm out of my depth here, maybe jjp_ can help
[20:38] <gori> hi jessie
[20:38] <anshrpr> ThinkT510: ok i'm askin to jjp_, thanks by the way
[20:38] <jt76> gori: do you want to set a static IP or just have another IP severed from your DHCP?
[20:38] <oneseventeen> gori: here's something I found to do it from the command line: http://codesnippets.joyent.com/posts/show/319
[20:39] <anshrpr> jjp_: http://pastebin.com/8GWGsgpv
[20:39] <gori> i want other ip
[20:39] <gori> b/c most of times i get banned from chat sites
[20:39] <tsimpson> tehn don't get banned
[20:39] <gori> aha
[20:39] <opiate> where can I find my programs? I am trying to add a 64 bit adobe player to firefox
[20:39] <jt76> changing your local IP will not make a difference
[20:40] <LjL> gori: your IP is assigned by your ISP, you don't arbitrarily change it
[20:40] <copa> gori do you do something bannable ??
[20:40] <gori> no i dont
[20:40] <gori> but there must be some way out
[20:40] <opiate> go through tor network?
[20:40] <wild> unop, I am getting an error "no such file or directory."
[20:41] <wild> when I try to move the folder
[20:41] <milind>  hi i am getting a WARNING: certificate common name `*.github.com' doesn't match requested host name `github.com'.              whenever i wget https:/my repo address
[20:41] <unop> wild, where is your downloads directory?
[20:41] <puneet>  hi guys.....i am using ubuntu 10.10.....and su command is not working....instead i have to open another terminal using sudo command....... can anyone tell me why the su command is not working?
[20:41] <unop> wild, under your homedir?
[20:41] <unop> !su | puneet
[20:41] <gori> anyone has worked on hadoop ??
[20:42] <wild> unop yes, I think so, I call it ken
[20:42] <lasha> guys no one knows how to install xp on usb stick From ubuntu ?
[20:42] <opiate> what's the command to update 10.04 to 10.10 from the terminal?
[20:42] <unop> puneet, umm, sorry, the bot's not very informative on this subject ... basically, the root account is locked in ubuntu, hence no su
[20:42] <ThinkT510> anshrpr: if i am reading it right, it seems to have found 2gb, 1gb on line 252 and 1gb on 263
[20:42] <gori> optiate sudo apt-get update
[20:43] <opiate> thnx - doh :(
[20:43] <wild> unop /home/ken/downloads/
[20:43] <Pici> gori: Theres actually a hadoop session running tomorrow in #ubuntu-classroom
[20:43] <puneet> unop: so there is no problem with my ubuntu right?
[20:43] <gori> realu
[20:43] <gori> really
[20:43] <unop> wild, then ...  sudo mv /home/ken/downloads/"your_dir" /opt
[20:43] <gori> ?
[20:43] <gori> where
[20:43] <FloodBot3> gori: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:43] <Pici> gori: http://cloud.ubuntu.com/2011/03/ubuntu-cloud-days-approaching/
[20:43] <unop> puneet, right, it's by design .. no problem with your ubuntu
[20:43] <anshrpr> ThinkT510: so why my Ubuntu is not using them???
[20:43] <puneet> ok thanks
[20:44] <wild> unop do I need the quotes?
[20:44] <lasha> gori is a name of town where Stalin was born
[20:44] <gopper> I'm using ubuntu 10.04. Is there a way to make global menu compatible with KDE applications?
[20:44] <unop> wild, only if you have spaces in the dir name ... also, make sure you have the right case
[20:44] <gori> nope its my sister name
[20:44] <amh345> is there a way to view my entire terminal history?
[20:44] <Araq> hi everyone! how do I amplify my microphone?
[20:44] <mark76> It just doesn't want to work
[20:44] <amh345> as in, what i've typed?
[20:44] <oneseventeen> I'm getting "SSL_Error_Rx_Record_Too_Long" errors on my ubuntu server after I set up a self-signed SSL cert... anyone know where I made my mistake?
[20:44] <mark76> Stupid flash
[20:45] <gopper> amh345, just type history in terminal
[20:45] <gori> pici: have u done hadoop setup?
[20:45] <ThinkT510> anshrpr: you said you got 1gb and 2gb sticks, i found 2 1gbs in that file but i'm not sure if i'm reading it right, still you learn new things trying to help
[20:45] <oneseventeen> (I'd ask in ubuntuserver but for some reason it is just looping indefinitely and won't load the channel for me)
[20:45] <azertyu> hello
[20:45] <azertyu> there
[20:45] <azertyu> hello
[20:46] <Araq> the sound settings keep going back to defaults
[20:46] <gori> hello
[20:46] <pider> got a new laptop;ASUS X52JV 15.6" HD GeForce GT540,Core i5-480M,4GB RAM,640GB HDD,DVD±RW, installed ubuntu 10.10 64b, installed nvidia driver and compiz. The window blinks when I starts programs and changen from one window to another, anything to do to stop this blinking?
[20:46] <azertyu> what this commande do ? dpkg -i postfix_i386.deb
[20:46] <azertyu> what this commande do ? dpkg -i postfix_i386.deb ?
[20:46] <gori> no one helperd me in ip
[20:46] <mark76> Is there any way to find out why BBC streams don't work?
[20:46] <kerneloops_> !ot | mark76
[20:46] <amh345> odd.my history isnt showing what im looking for.
[20:46] <Pici> gori: I haven't used hadoop yet, no.  I just happened to see this on my synced calendar.
[20:46] <aeon-ltd> azertyu: it will install that package, iirc
[20:46] <anderson> Im using 10.10 and google voice. I want to send a sound file over the phone call.
[20:47] <mark76> It's your fault they're not working
[20:47] <mark76> You did something to flash
[20:47] <amh345> can anyone tell me how to encrypt a file with gpg using an 'asc key?   i've already imported the .asc file.
[20:47] <gori> how can i talk to particular user here?
[20:47] <cha0s2358> hey guys, I'm wondering if there is a way to set up my system "10.10" to change the bandwidh priority. Meaning, which applications get highest internet priority. Example: right now, if I am downloading or uploading on transmission it has top priority and I have trouble browsing the web or even checking e-mail. I would like to set up so that My browser and such have top priority and transmission gets what evers left. can anyone hel
[20:47] <cha0s2358> p me?
[20:47] <wild> unop no luck. the exact error is mv: cannot start ~/home/ken/downloads/aptana' : No such file or directory
[20:47] <ThinkT510> gori: mention thier nick
[20:47] <nimbiotics> Hello everyone. I'm trying to burn a 7Gb iso image file to DL DVD using Brasero, but I got an 'unknown error' message. The Brasero session log file is at (http://paste.ubuntu.com/584469/). Should I use some other software? If so, which one? TIA!
[20:48] <unop> wild,  just do ..  mv  /home/ken/downloads/aptana  /opt/
[20:48] <anshrpr> ThinkT510: ok, is there any other chat room where i can get help??
[20:48] <azertyu> thanks aeon-ltd
[20:48] <gori> In this<> way??
[20:48] <unop> wild, ~/ is a shorthand for /home/ken  .. your homedir
[20:48] <Pumpkin-> cha0s2358: you can do it, with something to mark traffic and tools like tc. I seem to even recall a "wondershaper" script you might be able to adapt to what you want. Can't handhold you through the entire thing though.
[20:49] <unop> wild, so basically, you had /home/ken/home/ken/aptana  :)  which i don't think exists
[20:49] <wild> unop I saw how the ~/ that is nice. without sudo it did not work either
[20:49] <ThinkT510> anshrpr: well, your problem is ubuntu specific as far as i can tell, so you are already in the right place
[20:49] <cha0s2358> Pumpkin-,  well adapting scripts is a little out of my knowledge range so thanks anyway
[20:49] <gori> think how can i change my ip?
[20:49] <azertyu> as i got a pc wich is directly expose to internet, where there is no router, ppl say that it is possible to create a route to secure the pc without needing a hardware router
[20:49] <unop> wild, either do this ...  sudo mv ~/downloads/aptana  /opt/
[20:49] <anshrpr> ThinkT510: ok..
[20:49] <ThinkT510> anshrpr: it may just be that no body knows the answer yet
[20:49] <azertyu> is that possible ?
[20:49] <unop> wild, or this ... sudo mv /home/ken/downloads/aptana  /opt/
[20:50] <anshrpr> ThinkT510: cool, i came with a big question, right??
[20:50] <ThinkT510> anshrpr: you could try rephrasing the question to the channel, maybe somebody can help
[20:50] <wild> unop I tried both of those but I will try again, there was never the double home/ken showing up in the error
[20:50] <mark76> It's your fault. Fix it
[20:51] <ThinkT510> !bug | mark76
[20:52] <unop> wild,  sudo mv ~/downloads/aptana  /opt/   # should do it,  if it doesn't ... make sure you have it spelt right,  i.e.  it may be ~/Downloads instead of ~/downloads .... case matters.  same with the aptana/ directory .. case matters
[20:52] <gori> helllo anyone from networking side,,,,i need heko
[20:52] <gori> help
[20:52] <Logan_> !anyone | gori
[20:52] <wild> unop you were right when you wrote, check the case, it is Downloads not downloads
[20:52] <unop> wild, :)
[20:52] <newbie01> hi all, What's the command line to check if my disk space is full?
[20:52] <wild> :)
[20:52] <wild> Thanks a million unop
[20:52] <unop> newbie01, df -Th
[20:52] <unop> wild, you're welcome
[20:53] <gori> soorryy...   my question is how i change my ip....
[20:53] <gori> or make it dynamic
[20:53] <Pumpkin-> gori: to change it now, "ifconfig" or "ip". To change what address it boots with, look at /etc/network/interfaces
[20:53] <wild> what is df Th   unop
[20:53] <lasha> guys I burnt 2 cds of xp and none of them boot any suggestions ?
[20:53] <kerneloops_> How can I keep a VPN connection alive after log out?
[20:53] <gori> it will make it static ,,,,,i dont need that
[20:53] <opiate> I get a list of archives in the terminal --> any other command to update from 10.04 - 10.10 ?
[20:53] <unop> wild,  a command that does what newbie01 wants :)
[20:53] <kerneloops_> using network-manager..
[20:53] <Pumpkin-> gori: oh, you want to get a new dhcp lease ?
[20:53] <gori> i want that when i login to my system...i get new ip
[20:54] <amh345> the command is something like gpg key_name < file_to_encrypt.txt but i cant recall.  can anyone help?
[20:54] <newbie01> unop, thanks
[20:54] <unop> amh345, you possibly have gpg confused for openssl ??
[20:55] <amh345> unop: i hope not
[20:55] <amh345> im trying to encrypt a file.
[20:55] <unop> amh345,  openssl (the command line) can do the encryption
[20:55] <amh345> i did it before, but forgot the command
[20:55] <amh345> unop: but im encrypting with an .asc file
[20:55] <amh345> the .asc has already been ported.
[20:56] <amh345> imported*
[20:56] <gori> yes pumpkin
[20:56] <gori> can i do that pumpkin??
[20:56] <kerneloops_> Why logout kills VPN connection?
[20:57] <JabDesign> Getting lots of 401 on apt-get install/updates (via Linode), anyone experiencing something similar?
[20:57] <JabDesign> no dice on google, other than stuff from 09 and suggesting there are timeouts
[20:57] <s3r3n1t7> kerneloops_, is your VPN setup from your user? Then it most likely gets killed because your user processes get dropped.
[20:57] <kerneloops_> s3r3n1t7: yes
[20:58] <unop> amh345, you're trying to encrypt a file specifically for one recipient or to protect your stuff from prying eyes?
[20:58] <poent> whats the terminal command to list the full path of the current directory that'sbeing browsed
[20:58] <kerneloops_> s3r3n1t7: what if i make it available for all users?
[20:58] <unop> poent, pwd
[20:58] <gori> pumpkin??
[20:58] <amh345> unop: im trying to encrypt a file for one recipient.
[20:58] <poent> thanks
[20:58] <faceface> hi
[20:58] <s3r3n1t7> kerneloops_, that might make it work
[20:58] <kerneloops_> :( i hope
[20:58] <kerneloops_> ill get disconnected
[20:59] <faceface> I'm trying to run parted on a flash drive, but I'm getting "Error: Input/output error during write on /dev/sdb"
[20:59] <faceface> how can I 'repair' this drive?
[20:59] <unop> amh345, gpg --encrypt --recipient 'recipeint name' file_to_encrypt.txt  # perhaps
[20:59] <faceface> I ran "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb"
[21:00] <evon> faceface have you rtried formatting?
[21:00] <s3r3n1t7> faceface, then it makes sense. It tries to write more then the drive can handle. Just partition it.
[21:00] <amh345> unop: recipient is a uid imported from a .asc file
[21:00] <faceface> evon, s3r3n1t7: I don't follow
[21:00] <Pumpkin-> gori: "dhclient", usually managed by networkmanager , is responsible for your dhcp lease. Most dhcp servers though will try and keep giving you the same address though. I'm not sure why you constantly want a different address though ?
[21:01] <amh345> gpg -k shows the uid i need
[21:01] <s3r3n1t7> faceface, you're trying to write an infinite amount of null bytes to a drive which has a limit.
[21:01] <unop> amh345, i guess, gpg can also figure that out from the email address i think
[21:01] <faceface> s3r3n1t7: dd runs fine
[21:01] <gori> b/c i have to do something
[21:01] <faceface> when I try parted it fails
[21:01] <s3r3n1t7> faceface, unplug and replug, then partition?
[21:01] <evon> faceface, just figured that formatting the drive might fix the error. maybe it's a bad block
[21:02] <faceface> dd: writing to `/dev/sdb': No space left on device / 2074083328 bytes (2.1 GB) copied, 443.042 s, 4.7 MB/s
[21:02] <unop> amh345, this should help you -- http://www.madboa.com/geek/gpg-quickstart/
[21:02] <kori> bonsoir
[21:02] <faceface> evon: I'm sure it is, I'll try mkfs?
[21:02] <faceface> s3r3n1t7: worth a try...
[21:02] <Karen_m> I've got a ubuntu install to my USB thumbdrive.  Is there a way to edit the boot options so that ... "toram" is always selected when I boot from this drive?
[21:03] <slim> Hi! How can I enable compoziting on Lubuntu?
[21:03] <GeekShadow> Hello
[21:03] <GeekShadow> is there a way to check if bug https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=574450 if fixed on Natty ?
[21:03] <pider> my new laptop blinks with a black screen when I change progams or window! ASUS X52JV 15.6" HD GeForce GT540,Core i5-480M
[21:04] <faceface> here is dmesg: http://dpaste.com/524992/
[21:04] <faceface> (unplug and replug)
[21:04] <s3r3n1t7> faceface, looks fine to me
[21:04] <faceface> does this mean its sdc now?
[21:04] <s3r3n1t7> faceface, yes
[21:04] <faceface> ok, I'll try parted...
[21:05] <faceface> Error: Input/output error during write on /dev/sdc
[21:05] <s3r3n1t7> did you try running it with sudo?
[21:06] <faceface> s3r3n1t7: yup
[21:06] <s3r3n1t7> faceface, nothing in dmesg for errors?
[21:06] <ttiicc> hey guys I've been using ubuntu for a while and mainly with gnome! I would like to go strictly with an non desktop installation! wonder if you guys knows any package for viewing pictures as jpg or png for a system without X installed on it!
[21:06] <faceface> http://dpaste.com/524994/
[21:07] <faceface> s3r3n1t7: ^^ dmesg
[21:07] <amh345> unop: do you know if a gpg'd file is also compressed?
[21:07] <s3r3n1t7> faceface, does the drive have a write-lock or some other form of physical protection against access/write? Perhaps some sort of switch?
[21:08] <faceface> s3r3n1t7: no
[21:08] <faceface> I've opened it up to check
[21:08] <faceface> I'll try formatting?
[21:09] <s3r3n1t7> faceface, hmh
[21:09] <faceface> yeah...
[21:09] <faceface> I figure the should be some way to recover it...
[21:09] <th0r> ttiicc: I don't think you can display graphic info on a machine without graphics (X). however, you could convert your jpg and png to ascii art and display that in a terminal
[21:09] <faceface> dd does do writes...
[21:09] <faceface> 4050945+0 records in / 4050944+0 records out
[21:09] <s3r3n1t7> ttiicc, you can't display graphical stuff without a window to show it in.
[21:10] <s3r3n1t7> faceface, what command(s) do you give parted?
[21:10] <ttiicc> what about svgalib?
[21:10] <Jemt> How can I enable GDM auto login from a command line?
[21:10] <Karen_m> I added 'toram' to /boot/grub/grub.cfg, then ran 'update-grub' and now the 'toram' option is gone from the boot options.  Anyone know why?
[21:10] <faceface> s3r3n1t7: mkfs 1 fat32
[21:10] <faceface> s3r3n1t7: ^^
[21:10] <faceface> following: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/how-to-format-a-usb-flash-drive-436677/
[21:11] <MaximLevitsky> why svgalib? you just write the image as a series of bits to terminal. And install libjpg to your brain.... sheesh...
[21:12] <s3r3n1t7> faceface, you wrote NULL on your entire device, which may have (more then likely) removed your partition table. You should recreate that first
[21:12] <faceface> s3r3n1t7: cool, how?
[21:12] <craigbass1976> How do I disable the keyring window that keeps popping up when I get ona wireless network?  It keeps popping up, even though I type in the right password, and evenif I hit cancel I get on the network anyway.
[21:13] <faceface> fdisk shows me a Fat16 partition
[21:13] <jdeslaur> does trace route in ubuntu us icmp or udp?
[21:14] <Jemt> Found the solution - /etc/gdm/custom.conf :)
[21:15] <s3r3n1t7> faceface, pff ... euhm ... i'm sure google can give an answer, but i'm not sure
[21:15] <faceface> hehe
[21:16] <policyq> any program to set up key shortcuts as a lower level than window manager? like 'pystromo' but more configurable or something
[21:16] <nimbiotics> Hello everyone. I'm trying to burn a 7Gb iso image file to DL DVD using Brasero, but I got an 'unknown error' message. The Brasero session log file is at (http://paste.ubuntu.com/584469/). Should I use some other software? If so, which one? TIA!
[21:17] <MaximLevitsky> nimbiotics: you burn from a local file? cause I have seen  that when trying to burn files over ssh (which it supports, but as usual broken...)
[21:18] <Karen_m> i always have to hit tab, and add 'toram' when booting, how can I make this permanent?
[21:18] <guntbert> Karen_m: in /boot/gub/grub.cfg it is clearly stated that you should make changes only to /etc/default/grub, because the former file get overwritten with every updtae-grub
[21:18] <guntbert> Karen_m: edit the file I mentioned above
[21:19] <Karen_m> oh i see!  I didn't even see that in grub.cfg, thanks for that.
[21:19] <nimbiotics> MaximLevitsky: it is a local file
[21:19] <MaximLevitsky> nimbiotics: actually it seems that its a bug in growisofs or hardware issue
[21:19] <bocah_dudul> ubuntu bikin buntu
[21:20] <oCean> !in | bocah_dudul
[21:20] <oCean> !id | bocah_dudul
[21:20] <nimbiotics> MaximLevitsky: should I try some other software? if so, which one?
[21:20] <Jordan_U> Karen_m: Toram might not work with a normal install. I've only ever used it with live sessions.
[21:21] <hiromi> !broadcom
[21:21] <MaximLevitsky> nimbiotics: to be honest don't know. cd writing in linux is one big mess
[21:21] <Karen_m> running the system from a usb drive, it ends up sleeping or something and takes a few seconds to do anything.  Opening a terminal after having the machine idle will take 5~ seconds
[21:22] <Karen_m> so I am trying toram :)
[21:22] <nimbiotics> MaximLevitsky: Ok, thx :(
[21:22] <MaximLevitsky> nimbiotics: there is basicly 3 programs:
[21:23] <MaximLevitsky> cdrkit - the oldest set of programs
[21:23] <MaximLevitsky> its author is somewhat hostlie to commutity
[21:24] <MaximLevitsky> for example DVD support was for long time paid and closed
[21:24] <guntbert> !enter | MaximLevitsky
[21:24] <pankaj_sharma> nimbiotics, print dmesg
[21:24] <nimbiotics> pankaj_sharma: ??
[21:25] <MaximLevitsky> nimbiotics: actually I meessed things up. The oldest program is http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/cdrecord.html
[21:25] <nimbiotics> pankaj_sharma: http://paste.ubuntu.com/584499/
[21:26] <MaximLevitsky> There is also a fork of it with name cdrkit. its main program is named wodim
[21:26] <gori> hello
[21:26] <MaximLevitsky> http://www.cdrkit.org/
[21:27] <Batman`> Hey
[21:27] <wild> Has anyone installed Aptana in Ubuntu 10.10?
[21:27] <thedangler> anyone here able to get ps3mediaserver gui to show up? i've upgraded everything it told me too. still nothing shows up.  the media server works though.
[21:27] <thedangler> yeah wild, works fine
[21:27] <MaximLevitsky> nimbiotics: due to bad author attitude, a dvd-only new burning program was written. Its called growisofs. You used it now I think
[21:28] <MaximLevitsky> nimbiotics: and there is a new library for burning, the libburn
[21:28] <MaximLevitsky> nimbiotics: I should probably write a blog post about all this mess
[21:28] <wild> thedangler was it complicated to set up? I am having problems following a tutorial.
[21:29] <thedangler> nope. i just downloaded it from the site and ran the script.
[21:29] <guntbert> MaximLevitsky: please do, but not in this channel - this is intended for ubuntu support :)
[21:29] <nimbiotics> MaximLevitsky: TY
[21:29] <MaximLevitsky> guntbert: and that isn't a support?
[21:30] <MaximLevitsky> Just small overview of what burning programs are aviable
[21:30] <Karen_m> Jordan_U, toram did not work :(
[21:30] <guntbert> MaximLevitsky: no polls, no overviews here please
[21:31] <MaximLevitsky> guntbert: another wise guy
[21:31] <neves> #join bash
[21:31] <ThinkT510> !burn | MaximLevitsky
[21:31] <jim_> hi folx
[21:31] <bazhang> MaximLevitsky, please extol in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[21:31] <Mrwootwoot> can someone help me put pictures on the top and bottom and background of the cube?
[21:32] <jim_> later
[21:32] <bazhang> Mrwootwoot, cube cap? should be in ccsm. try #compiz for further details
[21:32] <alabd> Good day all , would you name a software for creating html files in linux ?
[21:32] <Mrwootwoot> thanks bazhang
[21:32] <iceroot> alabd: vim
[21:32] <wild> thedangler I am following this (tring) Is this necessary? http://www.ygamretuta.com/2010/12/install-aptana-3-in-ubuntu-10-10/
[21:32] <alabd> iceroot: is it GUI ?
[21:32] <iceroot> alabd: but i guess you want something like "kompozer"
[21:33] <iceroot> alabd: no vim is cli
[21:33] <alabd> thanks
[21:34] <wild> thedangler I have moved the folder to opt but the steps like chown and chmod and beyond are a loss for me
[21:34] <guntbert> iceroot: but there is gvim too :-)
[21:34] <thedangler> wild all i did was goto aptana site and download the ubuntu version. ran the install script. told me i was missing the jre6 so i downloaded that in the package manager and it worked fine
[21:35] <iceroot> guntbert: using a gui for vim is using like emacs (totally useless)
[21:35] <guntbert> iceroot: :)
[21:36] <wild> thedangler ok, thanks for looking, I'll give your way a try
[21:38] <neves> hi! I want to write a script which modify a line in a file. I think i could use vim and the command : " s%/old/new/g " but i don't know how can I make it in bash
[21:38] <iceroot> neves: sed
[21:38] <oCean> neves: you can use 'sed' for such substitutions
[21:39] <guntbert> neves: did you want to ask in #bash?
[21:39] <iceroot> neves: sed -i filename 's/old/new'
[21:40] <neves> guntbert : yes, i did but no answer
[21:40] <neves> iceroot: i gonna try
[21:40] <oCean> neves: be careful with the -i option
[21:40] <guntbert> neves: no problem :)
[21:40] <iceroot> neves: sed -i 's/old/new/' filename   this is the correct syntax
[21:40] <iceroot> neves: or use sed 's/old/new' filename > filename2
[21:41] <oCean> as long as you are trying ^ this might be wise :)
[21:41] <lillem4n> Can I make gvfs automount (the exact same effect as clicking a bookmark to a remote mount in my "Places"-menu)?
[21:43] <no-gooder> ubuntu crashes when watching youtube videos
[21:43] <no-gooder> does it happen to you guys ??
[21:43] <no-gooder> is it known thing
[21:43] <no-gooder> ?
[21:43] <lillem4n> Not for me :)
[21:43] <pcpower> flash loves to crash on linux
[21:43] <guntbert> oCean: the original file is not touched without an erroneous redirection...
[21:44] <no-gooder> is there ny replace for flash ?
[21:44] <no-gooder> any*
[21:44] <oCean> guntbert: using -i it will be
[21:45] <ThinkT510> !gnash | no-gooder
[21:45] <guntbert> oCean: oops, overlooked that, thx
[21:45] <oCean> guntbert: I learned that the hard way :)
[21:46] <guntbert> oCean: thx for sparing us
[21:46] <oCean> :)
[21:47] <josh9779hihkk> can anybody tell me what the old netbook interface was called and if it can be used with 10.10?
[21:47] <Elementallion1> vsem privet
[21:48] <lelu> hello
[21:48] <lelu> does the ubuntu boot disk contain java?
[21:49] <Mrwootwoot> anyone here good with compiz?
[21:49] <guntbert> !nickspam > Logan_
[21:50] <skullboy> what is the script that grabs alot of compiz fusion effects via git???
[21:51] <skullboy> what is the script that grabs alot of compiz fusion effects via git???
[21:51] <Logan_> !repeat | skullboy
[21:53] <Karen_m> how can i make it so that no password is required for anything?  I've got a usb thumbdrive install that i use once in a while and don't want to type in the password for everything :)
[21:53] <rebirth> hello, i need to make my wifi radio disable every time i shut down my computer, how can i do this?
[21:53] <iceroot> lelu: only openjdk
[21:53] <iceroot> Karen_m: dont do that
[21:53] <skullboy> what is the script that grabs alot of compiz fusion effects via git???
[21:54] <iceroot> Karen_m: you can set auto-login, but not using a password at all is not supported here
[21:54] <iceroot> skullboy: stop spaming please
[21:54] <lasha> hey guys do you know if there is a chance that spoiled cd is fault of Brasero burner ? or it could be my cd drive ?
[21:55] <lasha> it tells me some error by the end of burning
[21:55] <Karen_m> iceroot, why is no password on a temporary system not supported?
[21:56] <lelu> iceroot: thanks
[21:56] <neves> iceroot: thanks it works !! bye
[21:58] <skullboy> yes i just happen to be a developer
[21:58] <skullboy> wops wrong chan
[22:00] <skullboy> what is the script that grabs alot of compiz fusion effects via git???
[22:00] <iceroot> Karen_m: because there is no reason, its unsecure
[22:00] <iceroot> skullboy: can you please stop repeating your question?
[22:00] <ryaxnb> wow this channel is loaded with people
[22:01] <rocklee> does anyone know of a windows anti-virus program that will run from a linux distro like ubuntu?
[22:02] <skomorokh> heya. trying to let another user dj for me via a separate login, but i can't see how both users can keep the sound card? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/433654 tells me that the standard behaviour is to let only the active user play sound and you have the option of putting the user in the audio group at which point they lock the sound to just them.
[22:02] <W43372> I'm having an issue with remote desktop viewer in 10.10. Everytime I try to connect to my desktop machine all i can see is a blank srreen and I can't do anything. It was working just fine a few weeks ago
[22:02] <iceroot> rocklee: clamav
[22:02] <[TK]D-Fender> rockIf you're open to various different products, then why would it have to be a WINDOWS app running on a LINUX server?
[22:02] <skomorokh> since i can play sound from multiple apps at once, something is clearly mixing it for me so why is it so obscure to have it mixing the output of multiple users?
[22:02] <[TK]D-Fender> rocklee: Ditto on ClamAV
[22:02] <skomorokh> sure it's not so rare to have people in the same room wanting to share the same good set of speakers?
[22:03] <rocklee> D-Fender: It needs to be booted through a linux distro boot phase then the windows drive is scanned from the linux distro
[22:03] <s3r3n1t7> skomorokh, the problem isn't mixing audio streams from multiple apps, but mixing audio streams from multiple apps run by multiple users. And actually, yes that scenario is quite rare, since there are only a handful of speakers which allow multiple inputs.
[22:03] <rocklee> D-Fender: It's useful in cases where an entire system compromise is presented
[22:04] <gori> what is difference b/w ssh and vng?
[22:04] <[TK]D-Fender> rocklee: then use a Linux distro running ClamAV scan it
[22:04] <iceroot> gori: you mean vnc?
[22:04] <rocklee> D-Fender: thanks I will try that
[22:04] <skomorokh> s3r3n1t7: yes, multiple apps by multiple users ... on the same machine. the speakers only need one input since they're plugged in at the same place.
[22:04] <[TK]D-Fender> rocklee: You won't be running a Windows AV app.  You'll be scanning a Windows OS drive with a Linux-based AV.
[22:04] <gori> yes vnc
[22:05] <iceroot> gori: ssh is to connect to a unix/linux machine on the shell, vnc is to connect to a running desktop on a windows/mac/linux machine. vnc is bringing you the picture to your pc, ssh is bringing the shell from the system to your pc
[22:05] <[TK]D-Fender> gori: SSH = text mode shell.  VNC = RDP-like graphical screen & mouse, etc
[22:05] <iceroot> !ssh > gori
[22:06] <iceroot> !vnc > gori
[22:06] <s3r3n1t7> skomorokh, you're describing a multi seat environment, which should have a separate set of all input and output devices per user.
[22:06] <W43372> I'm having an issue with remote desktop viewer. Every time I try to VNC my desktop computer I get a black screen and no remote control over the desktop
[22:06] <skomorokh> s3r3n1t7: why? we're in the same room. why should i buy two sets of high end studio monitors and power amps when we can hear this one very well thank you?
[22:06] <gori> how can i see and send private message here?
[22:07] <rebirth> what is the command to disable the wifi radio?
[22:07] <iceroot> gori: /msg nickname text
[22:07] <W43372> rebirth go into the settngs for your router and disable the 'broadcast SSID' option
[22:07] <s3r3n1t7> skomorokh, then i don't see the problem? As long as you don't use the speakers, the other person can do as he pleases. But no, you cannot mix sounds from multiple users.
[22:08] <gori> iceroot:/like this?
[22:08] <skomorokh> s3r3n1t7: why can't you? and it seems like you have to log out to get the sound to switch back?
[22:08] <iceroot> gori: no
[22:08] <rebirth> W43372: i need the command because i need to do it every time i shut down the computer
[22:08] <iceroot> gori: /nick iceroot like this
[22:08] <gori> then
[22:08] <gori> gori:/iceroot now?
[22:09] <iceroot> gori: only what is in ""  "/msg iceroot like this"
[22:09] <W43372> gori  type : /msg someones-name-here then your message
[22:10] <W43372> rebirth huh?
[22:10] <W43372> I'm having an issue with remote desktop viewer. Every time I try to VNC my desktop computer I get a black screen and no remote control over the desktop
[22:10] <UbuntuByte> is it possible to somehow set ubuntu that when i turn on my computer from sleep it automatically connects to wifi?
[22:11] <W43372> UbuntuByte mine does it automatically
[22:11] <UbuntuByte> rather than me clicking on the wifi symbol each time and choosing my network
[22:11] <UbuntuByte> really?
[22:11] <UbuntuByte> not sure why mine doesnt...
[22:11] <gori> hello
[22:11] <W43372> UbuntuByte neither am I. Have you tried fiddling with your settings?
[22:12] <gori> still not done w4332
[22:12] <UbuntuByte> havent tried it yet
[22:12] <UbuntuByte> ill try it right now
[22:12] <W43372> gori: Do what?
[22:12] <gori> whisper
[22:13] <W43372> UbuntuByte I think if you tell it to automatically connect to the signal it should do it on it's own when it wakes up
[22:13] <rebirth> ok i found the command, now i just need to know how to run a command at shut down time automatically
[22:13] <s3r3n1t7> skomorokh, the scenario you're describing is just to rare. The only way you can get it done is if you can convince pulseaudio to accept multiple audio streams and send those to your speakers. How? Google can tell.
[22:13] <matux> bonsoir
[22:13] <W43372> mine connects to my home router every time I turn the machine on
[22:13] <skomorokh> s3r3n1t7: easy sharing and managing of sound is important whenever there are multiple people in the same place. pulse is client/server. laptop users in a shared environment with a good stereo could connect to a plug computer with a pulse daemon that's hooked in to the system and easily switch control of the sound to whoever wants it (and has been granted access). without the switching infrastructure it'd be fine in the interim just to let everyone out
[22:13] <UbuntuByte> does it usually take a while to connect automatcially?
[22:14] <skomorokh> s3r3n1t7: google cannot tell, at least not with me using it, that's what i've come seeking help from wiser people
[22:14] <W43372> UbuntuByte: It takes a few seconds for me, yeah
[22:14] <UbuntuByte> ok let me try fiddling with the settings
[22:15] <s3r3n1t7> skomorokh, then you have already found your solution then, using pulse daemon and clients that hook into it.
[22:15] <maxillusionist> i am with skomorokh
[22:15] <W43372> So, remote desktop viewer? Help?
[22:15] <skomorokh> s3r3n1t7: i think that's how it's set up in ubuntu, each user has their own. but some funky stuff makes it so only one can use it at a time
[22:15] <maxillusionist> google can't be the oracle all the time
[22:15] <skomorokh> s3r3n1t7: so i need to understand what the funky stuff is and how to set it up
[22:16] <maxillusionist> me too
[22:16] <skomorokh> s3r3n1t7: and i'm pretty savvy but i'm no sysadmin and ubuntu is very complicated place :)
[22:16] <maxillusionist> wanna know
[22:16] <maxillusionist> not really
[22:16] <s3r3n1t7> !enter | maxillusionist
[22:16] <UbuntuByte> i got it!
[22:16] <s3r3n1t7> skomorokh, yes, only 1 pulse daemon can actively use the sound card. The solution will be to make sure that the person who is always logged in runs the daemon, and the rest hooks in to that pulse daemon.
[22:16] <maxillusionist> what??
[22:16] <W43372> UbuntuByte werd up!
[22:17] <UbuntuByte> I went into network settings, and from there went into wirless connections. and found a little check mark to select auto connect!
[22:17] <skomorokh> s3r3n1t7: but i thought pulse isn't supposed to be used that way? it has a whole bunch of warnings on their site?
[22:17] <UbuntuByte> I had it unchecked before
[22:17] <maxillusionist> i was supporting skomorokh
[22:17] <s3r3n1t7> skomorokh, well yeah ... that may be, but i dpm
[22:17] <maxillusionist> just that
[22:17] <rebirth> how do i make a command run automatically at time of shutdown?
[22:17] <UbuntuByte> thanks W43372!
[22:17] <s3r3n1t7> but i don't really see another solution in your case.
[22:17] <skomorokh> s3r3n1t7: isn't there some way to use alsa dmix so multiple pulses can pulse at once?
[22:18] <s3r3n1t7> maxillusionist, you're not providing any additional info and you're making it even harder to follow the conversations in here.
[22:18] <W43372> hmmm, maybe I could remove the need for the remote desktop viewer with a webcam and some remote controlled lego hands, or a realy long stick...
[22:18] <maxillusionist> well you need some then ok
[22:18] <skomorokh> s3r3n1t7: dpm?
[22:19] <maxillusionist> w43372 i have used a shell script to do such things  long ago
[22:19] <maxillusionist> i can also configure routers with shell scripts
[22:19] <maxillusionist> sometimes i use perl as well
[22:20] <s3r3n1t7> skomorokh, dpm?
[22:20] <maxillusionist> dpm??
[22:20] <skomorokh> s3r3n1t7: "skomorokh, well yeah ... that may be, but i dpm"
[22:20] <s3r3n1t7> maxillusionist, please stop that.
[22:20] <W43372> maxillusionist: every time I try to connect with RDV to my desktop I get a black screen and no remote control. it doesn't even ask me for a password
[22:20] <maxillusionist> rpm i guess
[22:20] <s3r3n1t7> skomorokh, typo, i tried to hit backspace and hit enter by accident.
[22:20] <skomorokh> s3r3n1t7: oohhh your next comment, nm
[22:22] <_The> hi
[22:22] <_The> looking for  kesari
[22:22] <s3r3n1t7> !nickspam > derp
[22:22] <JoseeAntonioR> Hello! Does anyone knows why I cannot track my Ubuntu CD order?
[22:23] <skomorokh> s3r3n1t7: anyhow, thanks a lot for trying to understand, i think i see now that it's fundamentally a pulse thing and not just how it's set up in ubuntu. however, do you know what the mechanism is by which it switches control of the device when new users log in to become the "active" console? perhaps I can use that to switch the device intentionally to whichever user wants to run the audio at the time without people needing to log out and back in again
[22:25] <maxillusionist> well it is  daemon process actually ,and it is same as apache but for a different purpose    and it waits for the client
[22:25] <maxillusionist> skomorokh
[22:25] <maxillusionist> got it
[22:25] <skomorokh> maybe jack will help. i'm already using the bizarre yet very very common setup of phonon -> pulse -> alsa, maybe i just need to switch to phonon -> pulse -> jack -> alsa :)
[22:26] <maxillusionist> the basic mechanism is to use a script of your own and take manual control skomorokh
[22:26] <pcpower> or forget phonon and just use gstreamer directly
[22:26] <skomorokh> pcpower: there's gstreamer in there?
[22:26] <W43372> I'm having an issue with remote desktop viewer. Every time I try to VNC my desktop computer I get a black screen and no remote control over the desktop
[22:26] <skomorokh> maxillusionist: it's not a daemon though, pulse says not to use it that way as it breaks things
[22:26] <PleXs> any network expert in the room? Dell Powerconnect Managed Switch or HP Procurve Managed switch? :)
[22:27] <pcpower> skomorokh: one of phonon's backends is gstreamer, but I find phonon woefully limited/buggy compared to just using gstreamer
[22:27] <pcpower> PleXs: Cisco/Juniper here, can I help?
[22:27] <skomorokh> maxillusionist: a script to take control of it at will is exactly what i'm trying to figure out. i think we just need to find how ubuntu decide's who's copy of pulse can run and use that same mechanism?
[22:27] <PleXs> pcpower, need some descent managed switch for home.. not to expensive :)
[22:28] <pcpower> how much is too much?
[22:28] <PleXs> pcpower, juniper is the same as Cisco ?
[22:28] <pcpower> no it's not
[22:28] <pcpower> more like completely different :)
[22:28] <PleXs> ow :)
[22:28] <PleXs> pcpower, max 1000euro
[22:28] <skomorokh> pcpower: can gstreamer handle switching applications between sound cards like pulse? maybe i can just use it instead?
[22:28] <jahman_> migheah
[22:29] <e1ven_> In top, I'm seeing a process called spooler taking up 100% CPU; Killing it respawns under a new PID.
[22:29] <PleXs> pcpower, I was looking at HP ProCurve 2910 but 48ports Gigabit but looks just a little bit to expensive :)
[22:29] <pcpower> skomorokh: what do you mean by switching applications?
[22:29] <itilious> is the best way for ubuntu to access Windows 7 Shares from internet through a VPN?
[22:30] <pcpower> PleXs: how many ports do you need and what kind?
[22:30] <itilious> or is there better "tunnel" application for something this specific?
[22:30] <PleXs> pcpower, between 24 - 48 ports :)
[22:30] <_The> ********* Kesari *********
[22:30] <PleXs> so I guess it would be a 48port switch :)
[22:30] <itaylor57> e1ven_: check your print queue and see if you have a printjob pending
[22:30] <araga> hello
[22:31] <PleXs> pcpower, I prefer 1Gbit ports to and IPv6 certified
[22:31] <pcpower> you can get a 24port Cisco 2960 for ~200eur
[22:31] <monty156> hi all
[22:31] <pcpower> on ebay
[22:31] <e1ven_> The machine doesn't have a print spooler, which is why I was confused. I think it might be part of Nimsoft, which our hosts use.
[22:31] <e1ven_> Thanks.
[22:31] <PleXs> pcpower, do it support IPv6 and has it Gigabit ports?
[22:32] <bazhang> PleXs, pcpower please take this to ##hardware
[22:32] <itaylor57> bazhang: thanks)
[22:33] <geram> Hi! After a power failure mldonkey-server (mlnet) is not comming up any more.
[22:33] <geram> The RC startup script does not report any errors.
[22:33] <geram> There is no PID file and no error message in the LOG file.
[22:33] <geram>  What else can I check?
[22:33] <FloodBot3> geram: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:34] <lasha> guys I am getting disk busy error by the end of burning by brasero  :( why does it happen ?
[22:36] <_The> ********* SANGRAM KESARI **********
[22:37] <s3r3n1t7> _The, please don't in this channel.
[22:37] <bazhang> _The, ubuntu support question?
[22:37] <m__> everton
[22:39] <osxfr33k> Is there an inittab  conf file equivlanet in Ububtu 10.10?  I want to change the user level.
[22:39] <bazhang> osxfr33k, why would you need to do that
[22:39] <osxfr33k> Or is this something I have to modify in the Grub?
[22:39] <osxfr33k> Temp
[22:40] <osxfr33k> Its a temporary change
[22:40] <bazhang> osxfr33k, please give a clear idea of what you are attempting
[22:40] <freddy_> !grub2
[22:40] <m__> msg everton are you online
[22:41] <osxfr33k> I had a problem with addtional Prop Graphics driver for my Nvdia which gave me a black screen and tried to change inittab so I could boot into terminal mode and fix a few things
[22:41] <m__> allchan msg everton are you online
[22:41] <osxfr33k> It seems that there is no inittab in ubuntu then correct?
[22:41] <Mackre2> Hello
[22:41] <bazhang> osxfr33k, then get into recovery mode by holding shift at boot
[22:41] <Mackre2> I have a question
[22:42] <Mackre2> it there a Ubuntu fork with MeeGo UI? Thanks
[22:42] <osxfr33k> ah and boot a revocery kernel then?
[22:42] <bazhang> Mackre2, no there is not.
[22:42] <bazhang> osxfr33k, it boots without the prop drivers so you can fix things
[22:43] <Mackre2> bazhang ah ok thanks!
[22:43] <osxfr33k> great thanks bazhang  I am use to using fedora and the abiltity to mody files as such so inittab does not exist in ubuntu I have to assume?
[22:43] <skomorokh> pcpower: sorry, am distractable. i meant how i can see a list of running applications currently outputting sound and select which soundcard the sound should go to via a drop down in pavucontrol.
[22:43] <bazhang> m__, best to just ask here, he's not online now
[22:44] <bazhang> osxfr33k, done a bit differently in ubuntu, if you are referring to fixing proprietary driver issues. safe mode/ recovery mode should do it
[22:45] <osxfr33k> bazhang I was finally abler to fix the black screen issue with my graphics card and get acceleration by modifying the xorg.conf file with these two lines of script and I cannot understand why this is not included in the new Prop Driver?
[22:45] <pcpower> skomorokh: I don't think you would do that with gstreamer
[22:46] <osxfr33k> Option "UseDisplayDevice" "DFP-0"   <<< that one fixed my black screen and  this one >>> Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"  gave me the 3d acceration
[22:46] <skomorokh> pcpower: and i think if i swap gstreamer in under pulse i'm going to still have the same issue with pulse
[22:46] <osxfr33k> I can't understand why these fixes are not part of the driver install?
[22:47] <osxfr33k> I found these by searching the web and finally coming up with the fix for the Geofroce4Go 440 card
[22:48] <EvilPhoenix> i'm having issues using the command line sftp command, i'm trying to put a directory up to an sftp server, and there's no -r flag (for recursive) in it.  how do i upload a directory recursively?
[22:50] <nikolaj_basher> Hi what programs works best? I need a mail program i a console where I can attact a file?
[22:50] <geram> EvilPhoenix, I use lftp for this
[22:50] <EvilPhoenix> geram:  how do you use lftp then?
[22:51] <geram> EvilPhoenix, there is a 'mirror' option in both directions
[22:52] <undead> hi to everybody
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[22:55] <SystemDefault0> **Good afternoon, everybody. Today I apologize, because this morning two classmates took my place in the chat, and started to type stupidities. So I hope you'll forgive, and ask for my help when you need it.** (Take care and have a nice day/night)
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[22:58] <ehw> m__: "/" key broke?
[22:58] <SystemDefault0> Thanks to all. Bye.
[22:59] <red2kic> msg ubottu I love you
[23:00] <ehw> awkward.
[23:04] <undead> maybe anybody compiling docky 2.1.1 from source
[23:08] <red2kic> undead: Use PPA if it exists.
[23:08] <red2kic> !ppa | undead
[23:09] <red2kic> undead: https://launchpad.net/~docky-core/+archive/ppa (DEV)
[23:09] <red2kic> undead: https://launchpad.net/~docky-core/+archive/stable (STABLE)
[23:09] <undead> in PPA version 2.0.13
[23:09] <red2kic> undead: Use DEV then.
[23:09] <wild> how can you back up a ubuntu virtual machine?
[23:10] <jack_^> is anybody familiar with the hangcheck-timer module?
[23:10] <jahman_> can u see
[23:10] <jahman_> rasta wey u dey
[23:11] <red2kic> wild: VirtualBox?
[23:11] <undead> thanks
[23:12] <jahman_> mike use wey u dey
[23:12] <wild> yes red2kic I use VirtualBox and want to make a back up of my ubuntu set up
[23:15] <red2kic> wild: See #virtualbox -- From what I see, I think you use vboxmanage clonehd command. However, I never did it myself and would favor that you seek someone in that channel for proper support. :)
[23:16] <wild> OK, this is not something you can do within ubuntu then I guess.
[23:16] <th0r> wild: just copy the .vdi file to the backup location.
[23:16] <iceroot> wild: virtualbox has a special option to make backups of a vm + config. its was something with "appliance" in the name and can be found in the main-menue
[23:16] <iceroot> wild: look there for "export" and "import"
[23:17] <red2kic> th0r: That seems to be wrong answer from what I'm reading on the Internet.
[23:17] <zaery> sorry for the stupid question, but I don't remember, nor do i have access to an ubuntu computer to check right now but: Can the default  image viewer/slideshow in Ubuntu be set to switch to the next image every 15 seconds, rather than the default 3-4 seconds?
[23:17] <s3r3n1t7> red2kic, you can safely copy a file to back it up. however, to clone it is a whole different story.
[23:17] <th0r> red2kic: there are sites that make .vdi files available so you don't have to install the os yourself. I have used them, and they seem to work fine
[23:17] <nicholas_> Hello I am not much of a techie and am utterly lost
[23:17] <bazhang> zaery, sure
[23:18] <wild> Thanks th0r and iceroot I see the export appliance, strange name.
[23:18] <sl33k_> I an a newbie, can some one help me mount windows partitions?
[23:18] <red2kic> Ah I see.
[23:18] <s3r3n1t7> sl33k_, welcome back. Go to places, and click your partition.
[23:18] <red2kic> zaery: I checked eog. Yes, it have Sequence option -- You can change seconds.
[23:18] <nicholas_> Is there a way that someone can remotely look at something ?
[23:19] <s3r3n1t7> nicholas_, what seems to be the problem?
[23:19] <sl33k_> s3r3n1t7: yea clicked
[23:19] <rob_> Where is the help section?
[23:19] <nicholas_> Hi s3
[23:19] <zaery> sweet, thanks guys
[23:19] <nicholas_> I cant get wine in my menu
[23:19] <bazhang> rob_ for what
[23:19] <rob_> I'm having problems with getting 'stereo mix' to work.
[23:19] <s3r3n1t7> nicholas_, a tip: if you type s3r and hit tab, it will most likely complete my name. Also, can you try to put your sentences on a single line? that'd be great.
[23:19]  * Akkan offline
[23:19] <rob_> I'm using PulseAudio but it isn't picking up any sounds.
[23:20] <bazhang> !away > Akkan
[23:20] <kaitlyn_> hello?
[23:20] <nicholas_> I looked on forums and have an idea but am afraid to remove stuff
[23:20] <s3r3n1t7> nicholas_, you wish to install wine? That we can do. Did you follow the instructions on the WineHQ site?
[23:20] <nicholas_> No that is not the prolem
[23:20] <sl33k_> s3r3n1t7: does it get automatically mounted?
[23:20] <kaitlyn_> hello??!!
[23:20] <nicholas_> let me give U the thread
[23:20] <kaitlyn_> what is this?
[23:20] <s3r3n1t7> sl33k_, yeap.
[23:20] <bazhang> kaitlyn_, ubuntu support question?
[23:21] <zvacet> !ask | kaitlyn_
[23:21] <s3r3n1t7> kaitlyn_, hello. This is the ubuntu support IRC channel.
[23:21] <kaitlyn_> oh
[23:21] <nicholas_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1074646
[23:21] <nicholas_> Is where I just posted my question
[23:22] <kaitlyn_> i dont need any help i was wondering what it was, but now i know so bye!
[23:22] <DD_> is this a channel for getting help with reprap?
[23:22] <s3r3n1t7> nicholas_, you have not posted a question in the threat you just posted. The last reply was made on march 16th 2009.
[23:22] <mtbear> My ubuntu install is hanging up on install base system.  At first I was getting cound not find CD Rom ... I reincerted the DVD and now get a Bootstrap error - ailed to determine the code name for the release
[23:22] <s3r3n1t7> s/threat/thread/
[23:22] <sl33k_> s3r3n1t7: i get this after entering mount http://pastebin.com/GMH9C4NP . what do you think?
[23:22] <nicholas_> Hmmm
[23:23] <rob_> Anyone got any info on my problem?
[23:23] <s3r3n1t7> sl33k_, that you have mounted from the looks of it, 3 devices.
[23:24] <nicholas_> these are the instructions I want to follow:
[23:24] <nicholas_> Originally Posted by cogadh
[23:24] <nicholas_> He did explain it fairly perfectly but some clarification might help:
[23:24] <nicholas_> 1. Find the applications.menu file in "/home/<your username>/.config/menus/applications.menu". The .config directory is a hidden directory, so you will need to show hidden files and folders in the file browser in order to find it.
[23:24] <nicholas_> 2. Open the applications.menu with a text editor and find a section that looks something like this:
[23:24] <FloodBot3> nicholas_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:24] <sl33k_> s3r3n1t7: df -h shows this, what is this none here? http://pastebin.com/Y9CnFySC
[23:24] <s3r3n1t7> nicholas_, please do not paste in here. Instead of telling us the instructions you wish to follow, try to tell us the goal you wish to achiev.
[23:24] <Stavros> hello
[23:25] <Stavros> has anyone installed ubuntu on a macbook without an OS?
[23:25] <Stavros> err
[23:25] <nicholas_> I want to have Wine shortcut in my menu
[23:25] <Stavros> without OS X
[23:25] <s3r3n1t7> sl33k_, do you have a real support question? I have seen you here quite a bit, but never with a real question.
[23:25] <pcpower> Stavros: I think you need refit installed to be able to boot, but it should install normally from a CD
[23:25] <s3r3n1t7> nicholas_, it should be there after installing wine. Did you install wine?
[23:25] <pcpower> other than the boot issue
[23:25] <nicholas_> Yes
[23:25] <nicholas_> Wine is there
[23:25] <Stavros> pcpower: can i install it on the ubuntu partition?
[23:26] <s3r3n1t7> nicholas_, and which instructions did you follow for that?
[23:26] <pcpower> Stavros: it must be installed under OSX I think
[23:26] <Stavros> hmm
[23:26] <Karen_m> It's so weird!!  When I open mumble on ubuntu, i get weird static/noise coming from the speakers...  When I run mumble on windows, same hardware/setup.. just in win7, no issues.   Why is this????
[23:26] <pcpower> but after that you can remove OSX
[23:26] <Stavros> pcpower: i don't think so, if you remove osx you remove refit
[23:26] <pcpower> how so?
[23:26] <nicholas_> I am supposed to remove a " <deleted>" somewhere
[23:26] <nicholas_> but aint sure which one
[23:26] <Stavros> pcpower: it's on the osx partiiton
[23:27] <s3r3n1t7> nicholas_, please try to answer the question. How did you install wine?
[23:27] <sl33k_> s3r3nit7: is the mount appropriate, is mounting an auto process or manual? how much the question can get real now
[23:27] <nicholas_> I think it was thru Ubuntu Software center
[23:27] <nicholas_> Am not sure
[23:27] <sl33k_> s3r3nit7: is the mount appropriate, is mounting an auto process or manual? how much the question can get real now
[23:28] <pcpower> Stavros: it can be installed elsewhere: http://refit.sourceforge.net/doc/c1s1_install.html
[23:28] <pcpower> see the bottom
[23:28] <s3r3n1t7> nicholas_, ok. Can you go to applications -> Accessoires -> terminal, then run the command --> winecfg
[23:28] <sl33k_> s3r3n1t7: what is that "none" shown here?
[23:28] <Stavros> pcpower: oh, i see, thank you
[23:28] <s3r3n1t7> sl33k_, by clicking on the partition in the places menu you have mounted your drive.
[23:28] <nicholas_> can one copy from this chat ?
[23:28] <Stavros> i can just create an hfs+ partition then
[23:29] <mtbear> Help ... My ubuntu install is hanging up on install base system.  At first I was getting cound not find CD Rom ... I reincerted the DVD and now get a Bootstrap error - failed to determine the code name for the release
[23:29] <Stavros> mtbear: sounds like your computer is having problems?
[23:29] <Stavros> hardware problems, i mean
[23:29] <s3r3n1t7> mtbear, on the menu you get when you insert the DVD, can you select Verify media?
[23:29] <nicholas_> Done it opened Wine config
[23:30] <s3r3n1t7> nicholas_, good, now you can close the screen. Once you have used wine to install software, it will also create a shortcut to wine and the software in the applications menu.
[23:30] <norstrom> Where is the best place to install binaries so that they are available to all users (assuming proper permissions)? /bin? /usr/bin? /usr/share? Is there a guide to what, where and why?
[23:30] <nicholas_> I dont understand
[23:31] <s3r3n1t7> nicholas_, wine is used to run windows programs. In itself it is useless.
[23:31] <s3r3n1t7> norstrom, /usr/bin in my opinion, it's a user binary.
[23:31] <nicholas_> I understand that
[23:31] <s3r3n1t7> nicholas_, it will create shortcuts to the proper folders once you have installed software with it.
[23:31] <nicholas_> So when I use wine 4 a program, it will show up
[23:32] <s3r3n1t7> yes.
[23:32] <dinexi> Hello. I have a question about ecryptfs in lucid. Asked it at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/150236. Can somebody help me with ecryptfs and openssl?
[23:32] <nicholas_> I'll try right away
[23:33] <nicholas_> that means I need to rember winecfg command, correct ?
[23:33] <mtbear> Yes I can check mount dvd and I get a failed to mount CD error
[23:33] <s3r3n1t7> nicholas_, no, that's was a one time command. It should not be needed to run other software.
[23:33] <norstrom> s3r3n1t7: Thanks, do you know if there is a sort of rule as to what the /usr/share is vs. some of the other folders? My biggest learning curve with linux has been understanding the folder structure.
[23:33] <nicholas_> Thats where I dont get it
[23:33] <s3r3n1t7> mtbear, sounds like your DVD is a bit broken.
[23:34] <wietze> norstrom: http://tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/
[23:34] <wietze> you have read that?
[23:34] <s3r3n1t7> norstrom, there is, it's called the FHS. => http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
[23:34] <nicholas_> if I have a .exe what do i do ?
[23:34] <njbair> So I can't get the Ubuntu One contacts in evolution to work properly. Is there a known issue with this?
[23:34] <s3r3n1t7> nicholas_, you double click it, and wine should open it.
[23:35] <norstrom> Thank you both I will read those now.
[23:35] <nicholas_> I'll try now
[23:35] <mtbear> I ran a cd check at the beginning of the install and it passed
[23:35] <upgrdman> i have two monitors plugged into my video card. is it possible to have each one treated completely separately for X? as if they were different tty's, but gui. i want something like ctrl-alt-f7 to have my keyboard and mouse control work with my primary monitor, and ctrl-alt-f8 to work with my secondary monitor ... ?
[23:36] <wietze> norstrom: it should be straightforward ;)
[23:37] <chuck_> hi guys just a quick question, i installed lubuntu onto a old laptop and everything is running fine, but one thing is i cant find anything anywhere to disable putting the laptop to sleep
[23:37] <wietze> upgrdman: interesting question, I dont know really
[23:37] <s3r3n1t7> upgrdman, sounds as a multi seat environment, which regrettably is not really possible. There's a number of problems, such as how do you switch between the first and second monitor, how would X (or TTY) know which monitor is which, etc.
[23:37] <chuck_> ps im quite new to linux,
[23:37] <s3r3n1t7> upgrdman, well multi seat is certainly doable, but not with a single keyboard/mouse.
[23:37] <wietze> isnt it possible to have different Xservers running on different displays?
[23:37] <wietze> and bind crtl-alt-something to it?
[23:37] <s3r3n1t7> wietze, it is, but how do you switch becomes the main problem.
[23:38] <nicholas_> s3 question
[23:38] <wietze> s3r3n1t7: I see
[23:38] <nicholas_> I installed firefox for windows and it worked
[23:38] <upgrdman> s3r3n1t7, well one of the heads will only be for mythtv, which i can control with an ir remote. don't suppose that would be doable?
[23:38] <nicholas_> but how do I opne it from the menu ?
[23:38] <syn-ack> upgrdman, it's completely doable and it's not really that hard to do
[23:39] <greg__> Im new to Linux, I seem to have locked myself out of my home folder. How can i change ownership back to me.?
[23:39] <upgrdman> cool. any pointers on what i need to research to figure out how?
[23:39] <s3r3n1t7> upgrdman, then i'd recommend you look at a way to setup for multi seat environment. That should accomplish it.
[23:39] <opiate> how do I put the audio volume icon back into the taskbar?
[23:39] <opiate> it disappeared after upgrading to 10.10
[23:39] <aeon-ltd> opiate: right click, add to panel...
[23:40] <trism> opiate: add the indicator applet to your panel, and make sure indicator-sound is installed
[23:41] <mtbear> s3r3n1t7: I verified the disk at the begining of the install and it passed
[23:41] <opiate> haha! sorted, thnx ;)
[23:41] <chuck_> hi guys does anyone know how to stop lubuntu from going to sleep when i close my laptop lid? i'm new to linux but any help would be appreciate
[23:41] <s3r3n1t7> mtbear, can you verify again?
[23:43] <nicholas_> s3r3n1t7 ?
[23:44] <s3r3n1t7> nicholas_, why would you install firefox for windows, whereas there is the same firefox for ubuntu? Also, if you ran the installer it will have left a shortcut.
[23:44] <bastidrazor>  nicholas_ there is a ppa for firefox 4
[23:44] <nicholas_> I was just testing any exe
[23:44] <iceroot> !ff4 | nicholas_
[23:45] <nicholas_> Hey folks Ure being helpful but way too quick for little old me
[23:45] <nicholas_> what is a PPA?
[23:45] <iceroot> !ppa | nicholas_
[23:46] <chuckbartowski> hi guys not sure if anyone can see this what i'm writing?
[23:46] <nicholas_> How do I uninstall the windows firefox i just installewd ?
[23:47] <waspin> hello everyone, I want to connect to Windows SQL Server 2005 JDBC from Ubuntu Machine, any recommendations for client ?
[23:47] <nicholas_> Oh boy, I am turning into a geek
[23:47] <skullboy> what is the script that grabs alot of compiz fusion effects via git???
[23:47] <tensorpudding> nicholas_: run the uninstaller in wine
[23:48] <guitar431> sudo apt-get remove firefox
[23:48] <nicholas_> Sure except where is the darn unistaller ?
[23:48] <Toph> nicholas_,,, sudo apt-get remove firefox
[23:48] <guitar431> somthing like that :)
[23:48] <bastidrazor> skullboy: there is a #compiz channel. they will know
[23:48] <s3r3n1t7> guitar431, toph, please read the _entire_ question before answering. He wishes to remove the _windows_ firefox.
[23:49] <nicholas_> that will remove the windows Firefox ?
[23:49] <tensorpudding> nicholas_: if it didn't come with one you can delete your ~/.wine folder, but that erases all your windows applications installed through wine
[23:49] <s3r3n1t7> nicholas_, run the wine uninstaller from the applications menu. Follow tensorpudding his instructions, do not try to uninstall it via apt.
[23:50] <tensorpudding> when you installed firefox an uninstaller was probably placed in the directory that firefox was installed in
[23:50] <tensorpudding> you'd have to find it though, which might be tough
[23:50] <nicholas_> There is NO uninstaller
[23:50] <nicholas_> showing
[23:50] <chuckbartowski> use /nick chuck
[23:51] <s3r3n1t7> nicholas_, go to your home folder, if the hidden files are hidden press ctrl + h, go to your .wine folder, then to the program files folder and manually delete the firefox folder. This will remove firefox.
[23:51] <UbuntuByte> u kno the laptop battery estimation
[23:51] <UbuntuByte> does it actually estimate?
[23:51] <UbuntuByte> cause on mine it says "estimating..." for a while
[23:51] <tensorpudding> nicholas_: it probably installed in ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Firefox/ or something like that
[23:52] <tensorpudding> nicholas_: try browsing your C drive
[23:52] <tensorpudding> from the wine menu
[23:52] <missil> hello
[23:53] <chuckbartowski> hello?
[23:53] <chuckbartowski> is any seeing this?
[23:53] <missil> thinkn of how im going to phrase question
[23:53] <mtbear> s3r3n1t7: I re ran disk integrety check and the disk passed
[23:54] <nicholas_> I sent U what I see Tensepudding
[23:54] <s3r3n1t7> mtbear, then the disk should be good to install. Can you try to install using that disk now?
[23:54] <nikola> hello, who knows how install a ps1 emulator easy without plugins?
[23:56] <camoy> I installed Steam under Wine with no issues at all, however whenever I try to start Garry's Mod or Team Fortress 2, the "Preparing to launch" dialog comes up for a bit, then disappears without starting the game.  Any help?
[23:57] <nikola> you install it with play on linux?
[23:57] <iceroot> camoy: have a look at the appdb is this problem is known/fixed
[23:57] <nicholas_> Can I safely delete the full wine folder and strat over again ?
[23:57] <missil> im having a problem and im pretty nub at linux = = = = my problem is involving mounting a dvd drive for a samba share [23:57] <iceroot> !appdb | camoy
[23:57] <camoy> ubottu: I checked it, but it didn't provide solutions
[23:57] <missil> disregard
[23:57] <chuckbartowski> hi guys can any see what i'm typing
[23:57] <camoy> nikola: I installed it using Wine alone, not play on linxu.
[23:58] <camoy> *linux
[23:58] <guitar431> i see it :)
[23:58] <nicholas_> yes chuck
[23:58] <chuckbartowski> thanks guys lol i tried ages to suss this out thanks
[23:58] <chuckbartowski> eventually got it registered thank you
[23:58] <nikola> I playOnLinux does safety install that wine alone
[23:58] <iceroot> if i want to provide a patch for a problem i am normally using "diff foobar.conf foobar.con.old > foobar.patch" launchpad is telling me that the file doesnt look like a patch. so is there another way to create a patch?
[23:59] <b1lly> how do i gksudo edit a file
[23:59] <camoy> I'll try that
[23:59] <b1lly> open in that txt editor
[23:59] <iceroot> b1lly: gksudo gedit file
[23:59] <nikola> it's same base, but POL is a bit more stable, and include certains dependances
[23:59] <Jordan_U> iceroot: diff -u is more canonical.
[23:59] <missil> im having a problem and im pretty nub at linux = = = = my problem is involving mounting a dvd drive for a samba share [23:59] <blahsphemer> what does RLIMIT_NPROC indicate? The total number of processes that are allowed to run simultaneously in the system or is it the number of processes that could be spawned by the current user?
[23:59] <nikola> if nothing work, try to install woth POL