| s-fox | Hello. | 14:28 |
|---|---|---|
| aztek | Hello s-fox | 15:26 |
| aztek | how are you? | 15:26 |
| s-fox | Hello aztek . | 15:26 |
| s-fox | I am fine thank you, how are you? | 15:27 |
| aztek | not so bad. what are you doing? | 15:27 |
| s-fox | aztek, I am working on some scripts. What are you doing? | 15:33 |
| st33med | He's gone when you talked :p | 15:38 |
| s-fox | Yes, I noticed st33med :p | 15:40 |
| st33med | :p | 15:40 |
| s-fox | How are you st33med ? It has been some time since we last spoke :) | 15:40 |
| st33med | Ohhh | 15:40 |
| st33med | You're silverfox right? | 15:40 |
| s-fox | Oui | 15:40 |
| s-fox | That I am. | 15:41 |
| steemed | Back, stupid connection on wifi is killing me | 15:42 |
| s-fox | st33med, Though HAL 9000 might be an option ;) http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10589904&postcount=9886 | 15:42 |
| === steemed is now known as st33med | ||
| Joeb454 | st33med: stop spamming join/quits >:( | 18:10 |
| Joeb454 | st33med: er, I mean BLARG | 18:10 |
| st33med | BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARG | 18:10 |
| st33med | Honk | 18:10 |
| Joeb454 | :D | 18:11 |
| st33med | Wassup! | 18:11 |
| Joeb454 | not a lot, far too busy with assignments, how about you? | 18:11 |
| st33med | Busy as well. Not too busy. Though I don't come on here often enough | 18:11 |
| s-fox | MOAR SPAM? | 18:12 |
| s-fox | Hammer time | 18:12 |
| st33med | :o | 18:12 |
| s-fox | Or is it eject time ? | 18:12 |
| st33med | s-fox, you're silverfox, right? | 18:12 |
| s-fox | I can't let you do that dave.... | 18:12 |
| s-fox | st33med, http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=611656 | 18:13 |
| st33med | I do not remember you! Sorry :( | 18:13 |
| s-fox | And yes I am / was ;) | 18:13 |
| st33med | aH OK | 18:13 |
| st33med | :d | 18:13 |
| st33med | :D | 18:13 |
| s-fox | st33med, I was a member of member of the beginners team in 2008 | 18:15 |
| st33med | Yeah | 18:15 |
| st33med | I know now :) | 18:15 |
| s-fox | :) | 18:17 |
| Joeb454 | s-fox: if it's hammer time, you need to do a dance and stuff | 18:17 |
| Joeb454 | with a mindless, repetitive beat | 18:18 |
| * s-fox puts justin bieber on | 18:18 | |
| Joeb454 | :| | 18:18 |
| s-fox | because that is music apparently | 18:18 |
| Joeb454 | I'm sorry, we can't speak anymore | 18:21 |
| s-fox | Dog's can't talk anyway... | 18:27 |
| s-fox | BIAB | 18:27 |
| s-fox | Bye st33med :) | 18:27 |
| st33med | bye | 18:28 |
| st33med | :) | 18:28 |
| === __mikem is now known as mmiller235 | ||
| mmiller235 | Hey, I have a question. Is ubuntu going to make the switch to gnome 3 in the 11.04 release? | 23:25 |
| Joeb454 | not that I know of mmiller235, no | 23:29 |
| mmiller235 | Do you know when they are going to make the switch? | 23:30 |
| Joeb454 | maybe for 11.10? I can't say for sure. But as it's only released on April 6th, I'd be surprised if it was the default in 11.04 | 23:30 |
| Joeb454 | mmiller235: I can, and have, been wrong about things like this before though :) | 23:30 |
| mmiller235 | I see your point about the time frame | 23:31 |
| mmiller235 | but, Gnome 3 is so good compared to gnome 2 | 23:31 |
| mmiller235 | one thing is, ubuntu's art team is going to have to rework the theme for gnome 3 | 23:31 |
| Joeb454 | most likely. They're working on Unity at the moment though | 23:31 |
| mmiller235 | Unity is a very nice environment | 23:32 |
| mmiller235 | I wish they would use it for the desktop distro as well | 23:32 |
| Joeb454 | they are, as of 11.04 | 23:32 |
| mmiller235 | but that being said, the design of gnome 3 sort of makes it unnecessary | 23:32 |
| Joeb454 | ubuntu will use unity, in place of gnome-shell | 23:32 |
| Joeb454 | though gnome-shell will still be available in the repo's | 23:32 |
| Joeb454 | at least, that's my understanding | 23:32 |
| mmiller235 | I see | 23:32 |
| mmiller235 | sounds to me like someone realized that older software just isn't going to cut it anymore in the realm of GUIs | 23:33 |
| mmiller235 | which is good | 23:33 |
| Joeb454 | indeed. I quite like unity, from what I've managed to try so far | 23:34 |
| mmiller235 | All I know is, old gnome, even with a compositor turned on just looks old and outdated compared to modern desktops like OSX and even winows 7. KDE puts up a much better show against these but for some reason, not a single linux istro that uses KDE4 bothers to use custom branding beyond just swapping out the background wall paper | 23:36 |
| Joeb454 | I can't really comment, I don't like KDE ;) | 23:36 |
| mmiller235 | so its good to see that the higher-ups of Ubuntu finally figured this out | 23:37 |
| Joeb454 | saying that though, compiz and gnome look quite nice on my ubuntu install next to my macbook and my windows 7 install | 23:37 |
| mmiller235 | Joeb454 were you using emrald? | 23:37 |
| mmiller235 | Emerald is the only way to make Gnome look decent compared to OSX and even then Emerald has a lot of bugs | 23:39 |
| mmiller235 | see, I remember back in the Berryl days | 23:39 |
| mmiller235 | Anyone remember berryl | 23:39 |
| Joeb454 | mmiller235: I remember emerald and beryl | 23:43 |
| mmiller235 | The real problem with gnome's compositing is the lack of antialiasing and stuff like that | 23:44 |
| mmiller235 | Berryl and Emerald atleast attempted to address that | 23:44 |
| Bachstelze | beryl had only one "r" | 23:46 |
| Bachstelze | and isn't compiz basically a fork of beryl? | 23:46 |
| st33med | Yeah | 23:46 |
| st33med | Wait | 23:47 |
| st33med | It's confusing | 23:47 |
| mmiller235 | What i would like to know is why was Emerald dropped | 23:47 |
| st33med | Compiz was the original, then beryl was forked, then came compiz fusion. Beryl got stopped, then compiz fusion was renamed back to compiz. | 23:47 |
| Joeb454 | st33med: that sounds about right | 23:47 |
| mmiller235 | st33med what happened to Emerald? | 23:47 |
| st33med | mmiller235, It's still there, just that metacity is used by Ubuntu | 23:48 |
| st33med | And metacity has really improved in design to allow transparent decorations | 23:48 |
| mmiller235 | st33med I was under the impression Emerald was discontinued | 23:48 |
| st33med | I'm not sure. Maybe it was. You can still download and use it I believe | 23:49 |
| mmiller235 | st33med if metacity is improved, why are they dropping it in gnome 3? | 23:49 |
| st33med | Because gnome shell is replacing that | 23:49 |
| mmiller235 | exactly | 23:49 |
| st33med | It's more complex than that mmiller235 | 23:49 |
| st33med | Gnome shell was just recently made | 23:50 |
| mmiller235 | st33med well, you know me (even though I havn't been on a lot lately), i'm all ears | 23:50 |
| mmiller235 | st33med also Joeb454 said that starting in 11.04, ubuntu is going to use Unity in its Desktop version as well as the netbook version. Is that true? | 23:50 |
| st33med | Yes | 23:50 |
| mmiller235 | awesome :)) | 23:50 |
| mmiller235 | I can't wait | 23:51 |
| st33med | Unity + gnome shell I think | 23:51 |
| Joeb454 | st33med: I think it's just Unity | 23:51 |
| st33med | Talking about gui interfaces is complex | 23:51 |
| st33med | Yeah | 23:51 |
| Joeb454 | gnome-shell will be available, but not the default option | 23:51 |
| st33med | Oh ok | 23:51 |
| mmiller235 | st33med there is one simple fact about GUIs, very few open source projects manage to get them right | 23:51 |
| st33med | Do tell. | 23:51 |
| mmiller235 | st33med Audacity | 23:52 |
| st33med | ? | 23:52 |
| mmiller235 | Example of a poorly designed GUI | 23:52 |
| st33med | Audacity is a seperate program, not a gui designer | 23:52 |
| mmiller235 | TeXmacs | 23:52 |
| mmiller235 | st33med, no, thats not what i am trying to say | 23:53 |
| Bachstelze | anything that ends in *macs actually | 23:53 |
| mmiller235 | st33med I am trying to say that there are a lot of great programs out there that don't have the best Interfaces | 23:53 |
| mmiller235 | Bachstelze++ | 23:53 |
| st33med | OK | 23:53 |
| mmiller235 | st33med but I was looking at the design of gnome 3, and as it stands the "activities" menu, when active looks almost like a carbon copy of Unity | 23:54 |
| mmiller235 | http://www.gnome3.org/img/search-big.png <-- see | 23:55 |
| mmiller235 | by the way, I like the design, so I am not complaining | 23:56 |
| mmiller235 | I am just noticing | 23:56 |
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